Dutilleux's Dark Dominion

[froghawk]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0093rzv
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0093s41

Dutilleux: Mystere de l'Instant
Bartok: Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta
Dutilleux: Deux sonnets de Jeau Cassou
Alain, orch. Dutilleux: Priere pour nous autres charnels
Dutilleux: Symphony No 2 (Le double)

Jeremy Huw Williams (baritone)
BBC National Orchestra of Wales
Thierry Fischer (conductor)

Discovering Dutilleux 2008
March 11, 2008, St. David's Hall, Cardiff

Thank you!

[lescamil]

Yeah, sure, I have both concerts in that series. Stay tuned.

EDIT: Here they are. Details below:

Ravel - Valses noble et sentimentales   18’
Dutilleux - Tout un monde lointain   28’
Dutilleux - Correspondances   18’
Debussy - La Mer   26’

Gautier Capuçon, cello
Claron McFadden, soprano
BBC National Orchestra of Wales
Jac van Steen, conductor

Discovering Dutilleux 2008
Friday 15 February 2008, St. David’s Hall, Cardiff

http://www.mediafire.com/?9wgh6c6a73rz699


Dutilleux - Mystère de l'Instant   17’
Bartók - Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta   31’
Dutilleux - Deux sonnets de Jeau Cassou   7’
Alain - Prière pour nous autres charnels (orch Dutilleux)   7’
Dutilleux - Symphony No 2 (Le double)   31’

Jeremy Huw Williams, baritone
BBC National Orchestra of Wales
Jac van Steen, conductor

Discovering Dutilleux 2008
Sunday 17 February 2008, St. David’s Hall, Cardiff

http://www.mediafire.com/?q7wvxc324baw2x9

[froghawk]

Wonderful!  Thank you very much!

Just one question: your copy of the recording has a different conductor and date listed than the one it lists online.  Which is correct?  Were there two concerts with this program with different conductors but the same soloist?

[lescamil]

Wonderful!  Thank you very much!

Just one question: your copy of the recording has a different conductor listed than the one it lists online.  Which is correct?

Sorry. What is listed online is correct. I just copy-pasted the text file in the archives, and what is online is correct as far as I know.

[froghawk]

Thanks!  What is the nature of these magical archives?

[kishnevi]

I take it most here are aware of this new 5-disc box .. posting it just in case.

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I'm in the middle of giving that set a first listen this week.  This is not quite my first exposure to Dutilleux;  I also have the ECM CD of the complete piano music.  But the music and performances in the box impress me enough that I'd like to get suggestions of where to move on from here in Dutilleux.

[froghawk]

Just bought that set and haven't listened yet, but the Tortelier and Graf orchestral sets are great.  You'll also want to get your hands on this epic little piece:

[Mirror Image]

I'm in the middle of giving that set a first listen this week.  This is not quite my first exposure to Dutilleux;  I also have the ECM CD of the complete piano music.  But the music and performances in the box impress me enough that I'd like to get suggestions of where to move on from here in Dutilleux.

The Tortelier box set on Chandos is the way to IMHO. It doesn't get much better than this. The Graf performances aren't quite up to par, especially compared to more accomplished performances like Tortelier's.

[kishnevi]

Thank you.  I've wishlisted the Tortelier;  it's just expensive enough that I won't make it an impulse buy.

[Mirror Image]

Thank you.  I've wishlisted the Tortelier;  it's just expensive enough that I won't make it an impulse buy.

I think you can get it for $39 plus shipping from Classical Music Superstore (aka Naxos of America). That's what I paid for my set, although mine was $38 still just a dollar difference. As James may have mentioned here, these are 'composer approved' performances. Dutilleux has mentioned that these are his favorite performances of these works.

[kishnevi]

I think you can get it for $39 plus shipping from Classical Music Superstore (aka Naxos of America). That's what I paid for my set, although mine was $38 still just a dollar difference. As James may have mentioned here, these are 'composer approved' performances. Dutilleux has mentioned that these are his favorite performances of these works.

Yes, I saw the pricing on AmazonMP.  Once a set crosses the $30 level (unless it's one of those big box sets),  I start to look for sales and better prices elsewhere; and if Barnes and Noble has it in stock,  I may be able to get a better deal from one of their email coupons. 

But it will be bought, fear not.  It's merely a question of from whom and when.

[Mirror Image]

Yes, I saw the pricing on AmazonMP.  Once a set crosses the $30 level (unless it's one of those big box sets),  I start to look for sales and better prices elsewhere; and if Barnes and Noble has it in stock,  I may be able to get a better deal from one of their email coupons. 

But it will be bought, fear not.  It's merely a question of from whom and when.

I can understand that. The Tortelier has a special place in my heart, especially considering it's the first Dutilleux...well...anything I've heard.

[froghawk]

Despite the price, pass on the EMI 2-cd set ($9 for mp3):
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Everything on it but the Baudo/Rostropovich recording of the cello concerto can be found on this new 5-disc Virgin set (~$14 for CDs):
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And the Baudo can be found on a disc with a good recording of Lutoslawski's cello concerto ($9 for mp3):
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The Virgin set gives you 3 more discs for only $5 more.  As far as the overlapping content goes, the first disc of the virgin box and second disc of the EMI set is a disc of Plasson conducting three orchestral works, and they are far from the best performances of said works.  The Chung violin concerto (and cello concerto included instead of the Baudo on the Virgin set) are about usual for Chung - good, competent recordings which are nonetheless not the best you can get.  The main advantage of the Virgin set over the other (purely orchestral) boxes is that it includes two discs of chamber music, so it provides a better overall view of Dutilleux's music despite excluding two of his best orchestral works.  It is also the only release that includes a full recording of his ballet, 'Le Loup', but the recording is old and grainy and you won't be able to fully appreciate it unless you speak French, as it includes a narrator.

The Baudo cello concerto is quite excellent should you want to seek out that disc - the piece was written for Rostropovich - but I think you can only buy it as an mp3 download at this point unless you want to buy it used.


As a side note, I really wish there was a recording of the second symphony which really allows you to appreciate the interaction between the two ensembles.  It just sounds like an orchestra with soloists on all the recordings - having never seen it live, I feel I am missing out on the point of the piece.

I also just realized that the third movement of Figures de résonances became the third movement of Shadows of Time nearly 30 years later...

[froghawk]

Listening to Salonen's Correspondances disc now... god, Hannigan's voice is incredible.  I had never listened to her before.  Absolutely beautiful.

[lescamil]

Listening to Salonen's Correspondances disc now... god, Hannigan's voice is incredible.  I had never listened to her before.  Absolutely beautiful.

Hannigan is one of the greatest voices in contemporary music today. I knew this CD would be incredible. That old recording I posted with Claron McFadden isn't bad either. She's another voice I think is really great today in contemporary music.

[Mirror Image]

Yep, definitely what I figured about that Dutilleux Salonen recording. It's a must-have. Will be definitely acquiring it with my birthday money.

[froghawk]

What other recordings of hers do you all recommend?

[snyprrr]

Yep, definitely what I figured about that Dutilleux Salonen recording. It's a must-have. Will be definitely acquiring it with my birthday money.

You're still getting birthday money? You adopting?

[bhodges]

Hannigan is terrific; I've heard her live in Ligeti's Le Grand Macabre and Mysteries of the Macabre (she is repeating the latter here soon with Simon Rattle and the Philadelphia Orchestra) and in Grisey's Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil (which in a perfect world, she would record).

That said, I've not heard this Ligeti Requiem recording below, but friends who have heard it say it's fantastic. (I see she's also recorded a bit of Handel for Naxos, if that is of interest.)

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--Bruce

[Mirror Image]

You're still getting birthday money? You adopting?

My parents have given me birthday money since I was a teenager. We always give each other money for our birthdays.