Dmitri Bashkirov

Started by Zhiliang, November 03, 2008, 04:03:45 PM

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Zhiliang

Dear all,

Have anyone of you heard Bashkirov's playing on recordings? Are they good? And which ones are worth buying?


Zhiliang

Quote from: Drasko on November 04, 2008, 04:15:12 PM
Brahms - Capriccio op.76 no.2
[mp3=200,20,0,left]http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/24/2018019/Brahms%20-%20Capriccio%20op.76%20no.2.mp3[/mp3]

Thanks Drasko for the recommendation. Is it because of his very limited recorded output or he is more of a famous teacher than a pianist?

ezodisy

He taught some now very well-known pianists and still teaches pianists that'll one day be known well too. I don't think he's recorded very much though. Dan Koren used to recommend his Ravel left-hand concerto and a Schubert Sonata as about as good as anything gets. Zhiliang have you ever heard Natan Brand?

Peregrine

Quote from: ezodisy on November 07, 2008, 12:11:56 AM
He taught some now very well-known pianists and still teaches pianists that'll one day be known well too. I don't think he's recorded very much though.

Nope, very little AFAIK

Quote from: ezodisy on November 07, 2008, 12:11:56 AM
Dan Koren used to recommend his Ravel left-hand concerto and a Schubert Sonata as about as good as anything gets.

The D.845 - OOP, but I have it here if anyone wants to download:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=8517fa91b1f0f371ab1eab3e9fa335ca6bc2c8bd0056c2ae
Yes, we have no bananas

Drasko

Thanks, Simon. Don't think I heard that. It seems that he did record some but very little made to CD (there are more LPs on e-bay), basically only two can be found, both Russian Compact Disc - one with Bach, Mozart and Ravel concertos and othe with Schubert and Prokofiev.
Only thing I have is some Brahms on old Harmonia Mundi CD, long oop.

Peregrine

No worries. It's from the 'Russian Piano School' series, I'll have to upload the rest of the CD at a later date as I don't currently have the greatest ISP. There's Prokofiev Sonata no.8, Visions Fugitives and some Schubert Impromptus...
Yes, we have no bananas

Zhiliang

Quote from: ezodisy on November 07, 2008, 12:11:56 AM
He taught some now very well-known pianists and still teaches pianists that'll one day be known well too. I don't think he's recorded very much though. Dan Koren used to recommend his Ravel left-hand concerto and a Schubert Sonata as about as good as anything gets. Zhiliang have you ever heard Natan Brand?

Hi Ezodisy,

Thanks for your recommendations, its really a waste that he has not recorded more. Many have flocked to his masterclasses. I only know Natan Brand as an Israeli pianist and teacher. Have not heard his playing though. Why?

ezodisy

Quote from: Zhiliang on November 09, 2008, 08:32:30 AM
I only know Natan Brand as an Israeli pianist and teacher. Have not heard his playing though. Why?

because it's some of the best playing you'll ever hear.  :P

ragman1970

Quote from: Zhiliang on November 03, 2008, 04:03:45 PM
Dear all,

Have anyone of you heard Bashkirov's playing on recordings? Are they good? And which ones are worth buying?

They are good, but he is a better teacher and he didn't like is own recordings!

Zhiliang

Quote from: ezodisy on November 09, 2008, 09:33:42 AM
because it's some of the best playing you'll ever hear.  :P

Actually, i am kind of curious more in a sense that you mentioned him in light of a Bashkirov's thread. Is it because of his rare recorded works that many have neglected?

I did a search and came up with this cd.



Is there anywhere i could get a full collection, or are the rest of the volumes OOP?

Zhiliang

Quote from: ragman1970 on November 10, 2008, 10:09:20 AM
They are good, but he is a better teacher and he didn't like is own recordings!

Maybe he is always critical of his works, and as a teacher and an always evolving musician, he might never be satisfied with one recorded interpretation. Which ones of his cds have you heard? And how would you describe them? Do you personally like them? Comparable to any other pianist?

Zhiliang

Quote from: ezodisy on November 09, 2008, 09:33:42 AM
because it's some of the best playing you'll ever hear.  :P

Wow, i happened to chance upon your youtube video of Natan Brand playing Schumann's Kreisleriana, and it was astounding. A big Wow!

Drasko

Quote from: Zhiliang on November 10, 2008, 04:48:46 PM
Is there anywhere i could get a full collection, or are the rest of the volumes OOP?

There are no other volumes, at least not yet.

ezodisy

I don't know why I mentioned him -- probably because so few have heard of him (like Bashkirov but even fewer). Talk of volume 2 has been going on for a while. I've seen the set list and it doesn't particularly interest me, only other thing I really want to hear is his Schumann Sym Etudes which were included in the out of print APR set. Could anyone upload that recording?

Drasko

APR set is impossible to find, do you know perhaps is the overlapping material with Palexa (Kreisleriana, Blumenstück, Chopin 4h Ballade and 1st Scherzo) same recordings or different?

ezodisy

I don't know, I would guess they're the same though.

DieNacht

#17
His old Scriabin Piano Concerto with Kondrashin must also be mentioned as one of the best,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8gE4EAOsNA

and his Mozart 24 with Gauk is likewise interesting.

Recordings rarely turn up, his early decades seem perhaps to be the most interesting ...
But there´s quite a lot on you-tube to be found now.

Mandryka

#18
The Mozart concerto hasn't ever really stood out from the crowd for me, apart from the fact that he plays an unusual cadenza (but I don't much like it.) Not that it's a bad performance. On the contrary. Maybe I've missed something -- I find PC24 quite hard to get my mind round. There's a PC17 (with Barshai?) which I enjoyed a bit more I think. I'm going from memory, but he slows things down there doesn't here, quite effectively.

The record which I value the most I think is an early LP with half a dozen Chopin mazurkas. I found a trannsfer on a Russian pirate site a while ago. There's some real spontaneous sounding  playing in that LP.

He lives in Spain, he's married to Daniel Barenboim's daughter. He teaches piano -- I think he taught Volodos for a while.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Mandryka

Quote from: toucan on November 15, 2011, 05:25:50 AM
If he is married to Daniel Barenboim's daughter then he is committing a particular perverse form of incest as Daniel Barenboim is married to his - i.e. Dmitri Bashkirov's - daughter,  the pianist Elena Bashkirova.
Come to think of it, Daniel Barenboim does not have a daughter. Unless one his two sons, the hip-hop personality David Barenboim and the violinist Michael Barenboim, has had gender-reorientation surgery.

Funny how the little details an matter so much.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen