Composers whose physical appearance resembles their musical style

Started by Brian, November 06, 2008, 08:55:16 PM

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pjme



This is a tough one : Minna Keal . She wrote a symphony in 1987....when she was 78....Late romantic pomp? or a hardhitting soundscape?

cal

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vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

I found this rare photo of Havergal Brian in which, I'm sure you'll all agree, he definitely resembles his music.

Especially for my friend Jezetha  ;D ;D ;D
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: vandermolen on November 09, 2008, 02:22:13 AM
I found this rare photo of Havergal Brian in which, I'm sure you'll all agree, he definitely resembles his music.

Especially for my friend Jezetha  ;D ;D ;D

(HB is) just like that!  ;D ;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

pjme

Quote from: Jezetha on November 09, 2008, 12:39:50 AM
Really?! Those mirrors can be deceptive, then (as Shakespeare knew).

Read at http://www.classicalmusicnow.com/Tailleferrebiography.htm a short survey of Tailleferre's difficult life. Two divorces, real poverty in her old age...forgotten!
" I write music because it amuses me. Sometimes I'm compared to the "petits maîtres" of the 18th century...and I'm proud of that".
I have a little book " Germaine Tailleferre - la dame des Six" ( Georges Hacquard / Editions L'Harmattan /Paris 1998) in which one can read how Bernard Lefort ( general administrator of the Opéra) discovered that she lived - at age 80 - in a squalid little appartment, basically broke. He helped her find ( and payed for) a new place , and composer Charles Chaynes ( then creative director at Radio France) commissioned a new work....
She dies in Paris, november 7th 1983.
In March 1982, however , the new work was premiered at the Opéra , a "Concerto de la fidélité" for high voice ( no text) & orchestra. In fact a reworking of a harp sonata and ( afaik) the Concertino for high voice & orch. of 1953....Arleen Auger(!) was the soloist, Zoltan Pesko conducted the OPera -orchestra.

She leaves a quite substantial catalogue : works for chorus, chambermusic, several (short) operas, concertos and filmscores.
Not much has been recorded in rteally professional performances. The harpconcertino fares best in Zabaleta's recording, the (quite odd..) Concerto grosso for 2 pianos, 8 singers, sax quartet & orch. can,be heard on the ELAN label ( Clinton /Narboni pianoduett, Orchestre du Conservatoire du Centre de Paris (??)/ Bruno Poindefert) ...but it is far from perfect.
Nicole Paiement (conductor/ California) has recorded two discs with music by Tailleferre - but they lack polish & poetry...

P.

Minna Keal 's Symphony is definitely NOT late Romantic. !


J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

greg

Quote from: Dundonnell on November 08, 2008, 07:07:56 PM
Actually....I don't think that Scriabin looks like his music at all ;D ;D

All that wallowing in ecstatic, luxurious, decadent, perfumed, excess ;) ;D

He looks far too buttoned-up and respectable to me ;D Mind you, it is always the ones you least expect who have a secret,darker side ;D
Well, maybe just the moustache then. It's eccentric- no?  8)

pjme

Quote from: G$ on November 09, 2008, 04:58:58 AM
Well, maybe just the moustache then. It's eccentric- no?  8)

Not in those days! men curled their moustaches with 'Pommade Hongroise" ,had special cups & saucers and even "moustache -savers" that could be worn by night.


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Dundonnell


Dundonnell

Quote from: JCampbell on November 08, 2008, 10:07:16 PM
And the crooked tie! THE CROOKED TIE!

Dead give away, that ;D

I never buttoned my top shirt button. Bad sign ;D

ChamberNut

Quote from: Keemun on November 08, 2008, 08:12:03 AM
As did Anton Bruckner.


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I actually find that Bruckner's demeanor and physical appearance truly an opposite of his incredibly powerful symphonies.  :)

pjme

 We can hardly imagine what it was to live in the 19th century/from : http://homepage.mac.com/jgreshes/mahler/brucknerbio.html

Just about this time, in his forty-third year, he was made the unhappy victim of a great spiritual shock. The parents of the seventeen-year-old Josephine Lang with whom the composer had fallen in love refused him the girl's hand because of his age. In Bruckner's many cases of platonic affection for young girls (this continued till his seventieth year) there is enticing food for the modern psychologist's or psychoanalyst's formulizations.


P.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Dundonnell on November 09, 2008, 05:51:10 AM
That, my friend, is a matter of opinion $:)

I know. I think that, for a rather abstemious person like myself, the music of Delius, Scriabin and Debussy is my way of getting (mentally) drunk (which I have never been in real life)...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Dundonnell

Quote from: Jezetha on November 09, 2008, 07:55:39 AM
I know. I think that, for a rather abstemious person like myself, the music of Delius, Scriabin and Debussy is my way of getting (mentally) drunk (which I have never been in real life)...

Well, Johan, you just go on listening to and loving the music of Delius, Scriabin and Debussy :) It will cost you far less and give you far more than indulging in strong liquor ;D :)

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Dundonnell on November 09, 2008, 08:00:25 AM
Well, Johan, you just go on listening to and loving the music of Delius, Scriabin and Debussy :) It will cost you far less and give you far more than indulging in strong liquor ;D :)

Thank you, Colin. You're right. I know of no safer and cheaper way to get 'high'!
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Dundonnell