Started by mn dave, November 13, 2008, 06:12:24 AM
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Quote from: mn dave on November 21, 2008, 06:48:49 AMThat's the first mention of him in this thread.
Quote from: Bulldog on November 21, 2008, 08:34:03 AMI mentioned Schiff in Reply #5 - didn't care much for his French Suites, but he does play the other works well.
Quote from: Que on November 21, 2008, 06:46:02 AMFor those who like Bach on the piano:The complete Andras Schiff is on jpc very cheap (€20):Q
Quote from: Bulldog on November 13, 2008, 06:57:39 AMI don't think Perahia ever recorded the French Suites. The two piano versions I favor come from Gould and Wolfgang Rubsam on Naxos. Hewitt isn't bad at all, and Gavrilov's dreamy interpretations have much value. Aldwell comes off rather somber, while Schiff is at the bottom of my list.I'm assuming you're not interested in harpsichord versions; if I'm wrong, just let me know.
Quote"Gulda Plays Bach", "First release ever", "Private Recordings from Gulda's archive", "Bonus Track: Gulda's own exuberant Prelude and Fugue". The title and exclamations of this Deutsche Grammophon release are, the typical PR breathlessness aside perfectly enticing, especially to someone who, like I, values Friedrich Gulda's second Beethoven cycle but also cherishes many of his quirks and jazz-antics. That said, this compilation does not quite live up to its promise. ...
Quote from: George on March 26, 2009, 07:36:40 PMThanks once again for another informed, useful review Jens. I am a big fan of Gulda's work.
Quote from: orbital on March 27, 2009, 09:05:43 AMI listened through 1/4 of Gulda's WTC 1 yesterday, but still not hooked I'm afraid The music is played with utmost clarity but I can't get used to his pace or his hushed dynamics.
Quote from: George on March 27, 2009, 09:21:39 AMI should have added that I have yet to connect with Gulda's WTC. Have you heard Feinberg's WTC? If anyone can sell you (not the generic you, I mean you) on the WTC, it's him.
Quote from: jlaurson on March 25, 2009, 05:50:52 AMI could not find this topic in the new forum, continuing this old thread: http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,11094.0.htmlIf a reader knows where it is, could they tell me so that I may transplant this accordingly?
Quote from: rubio on April 05, 2009, 10:44:20 PM How is e.g. the Goldberg Variations in this set? Or the Partitas?
Quote from: erato on April 05, 2009, 11:15:34 PMThe Partitas are particularly fine, I played them this weekend (disc 1 even twice). I remember one of the board members had the Partitas as one of his Desert Islands dics as well on that thread.
Quote from: rubio on April 05, 2009, 10:44:20 PMI consider this limited edition bargain 12CD Andras Schiff set. I have heard and enjoy his Well-Tempered Clavier due to his dancing quality, singing tone, colors and dynamic contrasts (making the preludes and fuges stand apart). How is e.g. the Goldberg Variations in this set?
Quote from: rubio on April 05, 2009, 10:44:20 PMGenerally, how do you think Schiff compares with Hewitt as a Bach pianist? Which are their strengths and weaknesses in this repertoire? I've heard a bit of both and they seem not so far apart for me (but haven't heard enough).
Quote from: Que on April 05, 2009, 11:03:23 PMI'm open to suggestions what to do with the various threads on Bach's keyboard music...
Quote from: rubio on April 07, 2009, 02:07:16 AMWhich of these performers are good at bringing out the dance quality and singing tone of these pieces, Mandryka? Or are you looking for others qualities in Bach playing?
Quote from: Mandryka on April 07, 2009, 12:37:18 AMI assume we're talking J.S. and not C.P.E.You've gotta hear Alexis Weissenberg -- all three CDs EMI, are amazing listening.My personal favourite Bach solo piano piece is Partita 4 -- Gould is outstanding in this, and there's a good version of the sarabande by Rachmaninoff. And Weissenberg is very good too. But Gould is best.Generally for the partitas, Weissenberg is tops. Except for one thing. There's a record by Tureck on Doremi -- made when she was a youngster -- which is so incredibly perfect and exciting that it even beats Alexis.For the Goldbergs Weissenberg comes top for me -- but Tureck's GPOTTC record is a good antidote. And so is Gould's live Salzburg disc (Gould's studio performances although iconic, are not as good as the live one) My real problem with Gould is that he doesn't take the repeats, so you lose the grandeur.I don't believe one set of WTC will do: pianists are good in one P and F -- less good in another. Richter and Feinberg have given me pleasure. Fischer and Tureck and Gould have not.For me Art of Fugue doesn't work well on piano -- nevertheless some of the piano fugues on Gould's disc are so communicative, so poetic that you gotta have it. Sokolov is exciting, colourful, virtuosic, genius; and I like Aimard's straightforward approach to counteract Sokolov's hypnotism. But me -- I think it's best on the organ or performed by a little band.You need Gould for the Inventions -- not always but often he is superb.And I must mention Fiorentino -- I'm having a bit of a love affair with this guy right now so my comments may not be fair -- but his two Bach discs on APR and the Bach from his Live in Germany CDs are great!And then there are the transcriptions -- don't get me going. Michelangeli for the Bach/Busoni Chaconne. Feinberg's two versions of Allein Gott In Der Hoh Sei Ehr are a real high point for me (esp the second) -- both on a fantastic Russian Piano school CD . Demidenko's two Bach/Busoni discs are good -- , Plowright with Bach/Rummel on Hyperion is a disc to treasure as are Bolet and Pletnev on their Carnegie Hall discs.Talking of Pletnev, someone has put a fantastic video of him playing 6th partita on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuEGyRa3fMA. I want more -- anyone know about it? It says it was taken from an Amsterdam 2004 concert -- was it the same one as the notorious Chopin Preludes concert?There are some highly rated pianists who seem to me bland and mediocre compared to the ones I've mentioned -- Perahia, Schiff (I've heard the Godbergs on ECM (they're OK -- just) and the French Suites (don't like)) Hewett (I've heard and quite like the Partitas -- but IMO they're not special like Gould and Weissenberg and Tureck. I didn't much enjoy her WTC. I've heard her live in Bach and others many times and I've always wondered what the fuss is about.)Finally, for the concertos -- I like Gould EXCEPT the one with Bernstein. And I like Perahia (amazingly -- what I said above applies to his Goldbergs and his Partitas, I haven't heard the suites ) Writing this has made me realise that historical Bach doesn't figure much -- I have some recordings by Schnabel but I'll have to listen to them again. They certainly haven't made much of an impact. I like Landowska's WTC -- but it's not piano. And I've already mentioned Rachmaninov. Any other piano Bach from the age of 78s?Writing this has also made me see I need to revisit Richter's Bach -- there's a lot more of it besides WTC and I don't really know it well.
Quote from: Mandryka on April 07, 2009, 12:37:18 AMTalking of Pletnev, someone has put a fantastic video of him playing 6th partita on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuEGyRa3fMA. I want more -- anyone know about it? It says it was taken from an Amsterdam 2004 concert -- was it the same one as the notorious Chopin Preludes concert?
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