The One Rock Album You Think Everyone Should Own That They Won't Already Own

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Bogey

Quote from: Valentino on June 14, 2007, 02:15:04 AM
If you don't own Exile on Main st. by the Rolling Stones you should do something about it. Yesterday.

I would go with this one first:


But your suggestion is highly respected at this end....and probably the correct one.
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Haffner

Quote from: Bogey on June 14, 2007, 11:49:18 AM
I would go with this one first:


But your suggestion is highly respected at this end....and probably the correct one.



Again, this may be unpopular, but I'd take Beggar's Banquet, Some Girls and Sticky Fingers any day over Exile... as a double album. As a single, it's right up there with the above, imho.


Haffner

Quote from: Philoctetes on June 14, 2007, 12:07:27 PM
Mayhem - Live in Leipzig



I really liked De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, but Dead's disgusting croak makes LiL the superior album. It's worth it even though Euronymous' guitar playing is often embarassing.

George

Quote from: Bogey on June 14, 2007, 11:49:18 AM
I would go with this one first:


But your suggestion is highly respected at this end....and probably the correct one.

Forgive my ignorance, but which one is that?

Philoctetes

Quote from: Haffner on June 14, 2007, 12:09:25 PM


I really liked De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, but Dead's disgusting croak makes LiL the superior album. It's worth it even though Euronymous' guitar playing is often embarassing.

Live in Leipzig is really their only album I really like. I find the others don't lack that 'feel'.

Haffner

Quote from: Philoctetes on June 14, 2007, 12:29:47 PM
Live in Leipzig is really their only album I really like. I find the others don't lack that 'feel'.




Yes, great atmosphere on LiL. I loved Attila's eeevvilll Peter Lorre imitation on DMDS tho.

Philoctetes

Quote from: Haffner on June 14, 2007, 12:58:31 PM



Yes, great atmosphere on LiL. I loved Attila's eeevvilll Peter Lorre imitation on DMDS tho.

In my humblest of opinions, I feel that is the only 'pure', as much as I detest to even put forth such a term, Black Metal album. I feel at least that Black Metal was really only covered a time period of about a decade.

Haffner

Quote from: Philoctetes on June 14, 2007, 01:00:41 PM
In my humblest of opinions, I feel that is the only 'pure', as much as I detest to even put forth such a term, Black Metal album. I feel at least that Black Metal was really only covered a time period of about a decade.




That's a good estimate. The last black metal album I really enjoyed was Satyricon's Nemesis Divina, which is far from "pure" if that's what you meant by the term.

I'd have to count the three-and-a-half early Burzum albums as great , too and "real". But that's just me. 

Lethevich

Quote from: Philoctetes on June 14, 2007, 01:00:41 PM
In my humblest of opinions, I feel that is the only 'pure', as much as I detest to even put forth such a term, Black Metal album.

I dunno how it could be ranked over Blaze or Transylvanian Hunger (although none of these three are personal favourites) as archetypical.

Quote from: Philoctetes on June 14, 2007, 01:00:41 PM
I feel at least that Black Metal was really only covered a time period of about a decade.

Ignoring demos, to some people it is arguably half that time... Not IMO though, at least one of my current favourite bm albums is from 2007.
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Haffner

Quote from: Lethe on June 14, 2007, 01:08:36 PM
I dunno how it could be ranked over Blaze or Transylvanian Hunger (although none of these three are personal favourites) as archetypical.

Ignoring demos, to some people it is arguably half that time... Not IMO though, at least one of my favourite bm albums is from 2007.



I'm interested, Lethe, which albums?



You might get mad at me for this, but I always thought that Under A Funeral Moon kind of dominated all the other Darkthrone albums. The only reason I even still have the two you mentioned is because my girl likes them. For me, Darkthrone was a bit like the band Obituary, you really only "need" one album by them.

Just my opinion. Please understand that, for me, Black Metal started with Under The Sign of the Black Mark (I'm betting you know that one, L. :)!), and to me that one was never topped.

orbital

Wasn't those guys considered Black Metal ?


This was a very good album from what I remember. The epic title song in particular.

Haffner

Quote from: orbital on June 14, 2007, 01:14:13 PM
Wasn't those guys considered Black Metal ?


This was a very good album from what I remember. The epic title song in particular.





That one was alot of fun. But Venom is today usually categorized under the genre "New Wave Of British Heavy Metal", even tho they put out an early '80's album entitled "Black Metal!"


Philoctetes

Quote from: Lethe on June 14, 2007, 01:08:36 PM
I dunno how it could be ranked over Blaze or Transylvanian Hunger (although none of these three are personal favourites) as archetypical.

Ignoring demos, to some people it is arguably half that time... Not IMO though, at least one of my current favourite bm albums is from 2007.

I was never a huge fan of Blaze or Transylvania Huger. I suppose one element could find them to be archetypiacl, but I didn't really find any of the studio recordings to properly represent what I perceived as Black Metal. The closest studio album I can think of would have been the ones done by Emperor.

I could definitely see how one could half the esimate I gave. It was only an range though.

Quote from: Haffner on June 14, 2007, 01:06:25 PM

That's a good estimate. The last black metal album I really enjoyed was Satyricon's Nemesis Divina, which is far from "pure" if that's what you meant by the term.

I'd have to count the three-and-a-half early Burzum albums as great , too and "real". But that's just me. 

I really only cared for one Burzum album, and that was his first one. I always find him a bit much.

I did enjoy Satyricon. They were pretty intersting.

Valentino

Quote from: George on June 14, 2007, 12:27:47 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but which one is that?
That one is Beggars Banquet, George. The first release had a white cover, that toilet didn't go too well with the Decca brass.
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orbital

Quote from: Haffner on June 14, 2007, 01:16:13 PM




That one was alot of fun. But Venom is today usually categorized under the genre "New Wave Of British Heavy Metal", even tho they put out an early '80's album entitled "Black Metal!"
Under the same cat as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest  :o

They may not sound as harsh now, but when I bot the cassette of the album (together with Ride the Lightening, IIRC) I thought it was just a box of pots and pans rolling down the stairs  :D

Bogey

Quote from: Valentino on June 14, 2007, 01:39:57 PM
That one is Beggars Banquet, George. The first release had a white cover, that toilet didn't go too well with the Decca brass.

Yes, here it is:



and this from the web as Valentino pointed out:

By June, the sessions were nearly completed in England, with some final overdubbing and mixing to be done in Los Angeles during July. However, both Decca Records in England and London Records rejected the planned cover design - a graffiti-covered lavatory, and the band held back the album. By November, however, The Rolling Stones gave in, allowing the album to be released in December with a simple imitation invitation card cover. The idea for a plain album cover was also implemented by the Beatles for the White Album, which was released one month prior to Beggars Banquet. This similarity, coupled with Beggars Banquet's later release, garnered the Rolling Stones accusations of imitating the Beatles. In 1984, the original cover art was released with the initial CD remastering of Beggars Banquet.



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Valentino

The Stones is the only band I know of that has released four album classics in a row:
Beggars banquet
Let it bleed
Sticky fingers
Exile on Main St.

These are The Four Rock Albums I Think Everyone Should Own That They Won't Already Own.

My favourite just happens to be Exile. What bottle of Jack Daniels no. 7 do you want to drink first, anyway?
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Haffner

Quote from: orbital on June 14, 2007, 01:41:50 PM
Under the same cat as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest  :o

They may not sound as harsh now, but when I bot the cassette of the album (together with Ride the Lightening, IIRC) I thought it was just a box of pots and pans rolling down the stairs  :D




Hah! I felt that way about "Welcome To Hell" back in '82.

"Ride the Lightning" is by far my favorite M. album, love that album. But that might not be saying too much, as I only really liked that one and Master Of Puppets. Kill 'Em All was too NwoBHM for me (funny how I never classified favorites of mine like Judas Priest that way), and the rest after MoP...almost entirely garbage, in mhy humble opinion. Kirk Hammett started recycling his leads after Ride the Lightning, and on ...And Justice For All the rest of the band followed suit.