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Title: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 01:33:50 PM
In no particular order:

1. Dvorak
2. Elgar
3. Shostakovich 1 (with 2 running a very close second)
4. Prokofiev: Sinfonia Concertante
5. Finzi
6. Miaskovsky
7. Caplet: Epiphanie
8. Martinu 2 (with 1 running a very close second)
9. Walton
10. Bridge: Oration (Concerto Elegiaco)

Honorable mentions: Kabalevsky 2, Englund, Khachaturian, Linde, Rozsa, Kokkonen, Bortkiewicz (only on YT; cries out for a CD recording!), Bloch: Schelomo, Barber, Atterberg

As you can see from my list, you are welcome to include works for cello and orchestra besides concertos!
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Brian on September 20, 2013, 05:21:22 PM
This time I actually can rank them in order of choice!

1. Dvorak
2. Weinberg
3. Saint-Saens No. 1
4. Elgar
5. C. Stamitz No. 2
6. Shostakovich No. 1
7. Finzi
8. Khachaturian
9. CPE Bach, pick any one of the three
10. Leshnoff

Honorable mentions: the other two by CPE Bach, Haydn's pair, plus a bunch of Vivaldi concertos. I need to relisten to the Englund work.

Discussion
The Dvorak is my top choice and that's easy. After that comes Mieczyslaw Weinberg's concerto, a work I've bored everybody on GMG to tears by talking about ad nauseam for three years. To me, lyricism, drama, unforgettable melodies, and high emotion don't get any more bare or heart-on-sleeve, and what it lacks in subtlety it has in immediacy and sincerity. I can't think of another work in any medium that more urgently needs to become part of the mainstream concert-hall "pops" repertoire.

Carl Stamitz and CPE Bach wrote some of the best cello concertos of the 1700s, and I marginally prefer them to Haydn's. Stamitz's Second has the most gorgeous slow movement in any concerto pre-Dvorak, at least according to me. The Khachaturian concerto I'm such a fan of that a friend who's now a professional cellist adopted it into her repertoire at my urging and played it in a conservatory competition. But the weirdest choice of all may be Jonathan Leshnoff's concerto, which premiered earlier in 2013. It's available as a download from the Chamber Orchestra of Philadelphia (http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=1845574&affid=124), who commissioned the work and recorded the debut concerts.

Here's what I wrote in my review of the Leshnoff piece (scroll way down or search-in-page "Leshnoff" for my review of the rest of the album (http://musicweb-international.com/classrev/2013/Sept13/DL_News_2013_12.htm)):

"Jonathan Leshnoff's Cello Concerto is presented here in the live performances which were its world premiere. It's a piece I'd love to see enter the repertoire, and would like to hear live: the work begins with a long slow movement with a dark Sibelian glow, proceeds to a long fast movement, and then ends with a brief epilogue bringing the music to a place of great tranquility. The tonal language has more in common with the romantic era than with any of the last century's avant garde; if you like Moeran, Weinberg, Shostakovich, Sibelius, or the most recent works of Penderecki, for example, turn to this. I prized the combination of lyricism and drama, and the playing of Nina Kotova, whom I'd never heard of but who truly does the composer proud. He was in attendance."
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: TheGSMoeller on September 20, 2013, 05:41:09 PM

Strauss: Don Quixote
Britten: Symphony for Cello and Orchestra
Haydn: Cello Concerto 1
Schnittke: Cello Concerto 2
Elgar: Cello Concerto
Bruch: Kol Nidrei
Shostakovich: Cello Concerto 1
Vivaldi: Cello Concerto RV 419
Glass: Cello Concerto 1
Dvorak: Cello Concerto
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Brahmsian on September 20, 2013, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 20, 2013, 05:41:09 PM
Strauss: Don Quixote
Britten: Symphony for Cello and Orchestra
Haydn: Cello Concerto 1
Schnittke: Cello Concerto 2
Elgar: Cello Concerto
Bruch: Kol Nidrei
Shostakovich: Cello Concerto 1
Vivaldi: Cello Concerto RV 419
Glass: Cello Concerto 1
Dvorak: Cello Concerto

Really glad you listed Vivaldi, Greg.  He wrote some fine concerti for cello, that red-headed fellow!
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 05:48:42 PM
In on particular order:

Shostakovich: Cello Concerto No. 1
Prokofiev: Sinfonia Concertante
Casella: Cello Concerto
Schnittke: Cello Concerto No. 2
Finzi: Cello Concerto
Elgar: Cello Concerto
Sculthorpe: Cello Dreaming
Barber: Cello Concerto
F. Martin: Cello Concerto
Martinu: Cello Concerto No. 2
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: North Star on September 20, 2013, 05:54:17 PM
No particular order

Dvorak Cello Concerto
Schumann Cello Concerto
Elgar Cello Concerto
Britten Cello Symphony
Finzi Cello Concerto
Shostakovich 1st & 2nd (was great to see no. 2 live with Natalia Gutman)
Prokofiev Symphony Concerto
Martinu Cello Concerto no. 2
Dutilleux Tout un Monde Lointain...
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 06:05:41 PM
Quote from: North Star on September 20, 2013, 05:54:17 PM
No particular order

Dvorak Cello Concerto
Schumann Cello Concerto
Elgar Cello Concerto
Britten Cello Symphony
Finzi Cello Concerto
Shostakovich 1st & 2nd (was great to see no. 2 live with Natalia Gutman)
Prokofiev Symphony Concerto
Martinu Cello Concerto no. 2
Dutilleux Tout un Monde Lointain...

Thumbs up for the Martinu! A fine work indeed. It was on my list as well. :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: North Star on September 20, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 06:05:41 PM
Thumbs up for the Martinu! A fine work indeed. It was on my list as well. :)
Absolutely!

Will need to hear these:
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 05:48:42 PM
Casella: Cello Concerto
Schnittke: Cello Concerto No. 2
Sculthorpe: Cello Dreaming
Barber: Cello Concerto
F. Martin: Cello Concerto
Title: Re: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Karl Henning on September 20, 2013, 06:27:25 PM
Quote from: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 01:33:50 PM

4. Prokofiev: Sinfonia Concertante


Nice to see some love for the Prokofiev Op.125 (and the Bridge)!
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
Great to see the Finzi and Martinu CCs getting so much love! :) Perhaps I should explain the most unusual of my top 10, Andre Caplet's Epiphanie. It is a real shame that Caplet didn't compose more orchestral works because Epiphanie (sort of like a cross between a concerto and a symphonic poem, like similar examples by Berlioz and a certain other composer :D) is a masterpiece through and through. Rob Barnett's MusicWeb review of the EMI disc with Epiphanie gives this description of the work (fun to read, as usual with Barnett):

The Caplet Épiphanie stands head and shoulders above the other two works. It is a work of the Twentieth Century both chronologically and in musical essence. Gravitas and fantasy meet in these pages in a way that reaches out towards the Dutilleux concerto. The music peers at you in a sharply detailed focus that partakes of Ravel (Rhapsodie Espagnole not Daphnis) and Frank Bridge (Oration rather than Summer). It was Bridge's Oration (subtitled Concerto Elegiaco) that comes to mind most often. I have played this disc time after time and am still wondering at Épiphanie's resiliently fine and memorable qualities. It is psychologically profound music. Disturbing waves radiate through the music and there are moments, especially towards the end of the Cortège, where Caplet speaks of tortured emotions of a type later explored by Miklós Rózsa in his Jules Dassin films. The final Danse is urgently and darkly jazzy and overhung. The three sections are played without break. Épiphanie was described by the composer as a 'Fresque' and subtitled 'd'après une légende éthiopienne'. It was written only two years before the composer's sudden death as a result of wounds and gas poisoning of the lungs suffered while serving as a poilu during the Great War. I have already mentioned Oration. I detect a very strong spiritual resemblance between this work and Bridge's masterpiece. Both seem driven by a desperately active imagination in which funereal thoughts are to the fore.. That quick-rattling remorseless snare-drum accompaniment, as persistent as the ostinato in Sibelius's Nightride and Sunrise, speaks of bleaker things in the Cadence than the claimed programmatic association: the journey of the Magi to Bethlehem.

Read more: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2003/Mar03/Xavier_Phillips.htm#ixzz2fUV3syae


Funny that Barnett mentions parallels with Bridge's Oration (which I also included in my top 10), another work every cello enthusiast should hear!

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This disc is, unfortunately, out of print (why is it that major record companies always let their most valuable recordings go out of print ::)), but you can sample a different performance of it on YT: http://youtu.be/xOBFG6UxyAA
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: Brian on September 20, 2013, 05:21:22 PM
I need to relisten to the Englund work.

Yes, it's a great work. I don't know how I forgot to mention it in my enthusiastic posts about Englund. It's rather like a cross between the Miaskovsky and Prokofiev CCs with an added Nordic chill. Also, kudos for including the Khachaturian on your list. It's a lovely, lyrical work that is quite underrated compared to his piano and violin concertos.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 06:50:49 PM
Quote from: North Star on September 20, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
Will need to hear these:

Surprised you haven't heard the Barber, Karlo! Isserlis and Slatkin deliver a fiery, heartfelt performance on this overall stunning disc:

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Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: North Star on September 20, 2013, 07:02:14 PM
Quote from: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 06:50:49 PM
Surprised you haven't heard the Barber, Karlo! Isserlis and Slatkin deliver a fiery, heartfelt performance on this overall stunning disc:

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Cheers, will check the work on YT, and probably get the disc eventually.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Daverz on September 20, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
I think I'm getting burned out on these top 10.

For the Barber, I prefer the recent Bis reording to the RCA.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
Quote from: Daverz on September 20, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
I think I'm getting burned out on these top 10.

+1
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
Quote from: Daverz on September 20, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
I think I'm getting burned out on these top 10.

You don't have to participate......
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
You don't have to participate......

You could actually create a poll, Kyle. You know, change things up a bit.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
You could actually create a poll, Kyle. You know, change things up a bit.

True, but polls only work for certain topics. Threads such as this, which include a variety of options, would not be suitable for polls because I am bound to forget some people's choices. :-\
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
Quote from: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 07:42:10 PM
True, but polls only work for certain topics. Threads such as this, which include a variety of options, would not be suitable for polls because I am bound to forget some people's choices. :-\

But the whole idea of a poll is the pick people's brains and force them to choose from your list. When I create a poll, I usually ignore people's suggestions. After all, you can't be expected to create a poll that's all encompassing. That's just unrealistic.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 07:49:31 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
But the whole idea of a poll is the pick people's brains and force them to choose from your list. When I create a poll, I usually ignore people's suggestions. After all, you can't be expected to create a poll that's all encompassing. That's just unrealistic.

Good point. I'll be thinking of some ideas for an intense poll >:D.......
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 07:52:43 PM
Quote from: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 07:49:31 PM
Good point. I'll be thinking of some ideas for an intense poll >:D.......

Sounds good. :D
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 20, 2013, 07:52:43 PM
Sounds good. :D

I've got a good poll planned out in my head, so watch this space! But bed beckons, so it'll have to wait until tomorrow.......
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: springrite on September 20, 2013, 08:59:39 PM
Elgar
Cristobal Halffter
Lutoslawski
Penderecki
Prokofiev Sinfonia Concertante
Schnittke
Myakovsky
Veinberg
Moret
Schoenberg (or Monn)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Wanderer on September 21, 2013, 12:05:50 AM
R. Strauss: Don Quixote
Elgar: Cello Concerto, op.85
Korngold: Cello Concerto, op.37 (it ought to be standard repertoire)
Prokofiev: Symphonie-Concerto for cello and orchestra in E minor, op.125
Finzi: Cello Concerto, op.40
Walton: Cello Concerto
Myaskovsky: Cello Concerto, op.66
Hindemith: Kammermusik No.3 for cello and 10 instruments, op.36/2
Britten: Cello Symphony, op.68
Martinů: Cello Concertos (both)


Honourable mentions
Vivaldi: Double Concerto for 2 cellos in G minor, RV531
Foulds: Cello Concerto in G major, op.17
Bridge: Oration, Concerto elegiaco for cello and orchestra, H.180
Saint-Saëns: Cello Concertos (both)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Christo on September 21, 2013, 03:14:29 AM
Again, a mix of the familiar and perhaps less familiar. (BTW, this thread made me realize once again that I never played Moeran's concerto, though I love his music; always missing this particular piece because I never bought the Chandos recording and not even the new Naxos recording. Am surprised a bit that nobody came up with it, so far.  ::))

Camille Saint-Saëns, Cello Concerto No. 2
Frank Bridge, Oration, Concerto elegiaco
Leo Smit, Cello Concertino
Dmitri Shostakovich, Cello Concerto No. 1
Samuel Barber, Cello Concerto
Bohuslav Martinů, Cello Concerto No. 2
Heitor Villa-Lobos, Cello Concerto No. 2
Camargo Guarnieri, Chôro para violonchelo y orquesta
Arnold Cooke, Cello Concerto
Pēteris Vasks, Cello Concerto

Edit: oops, forgot Finzi (but many of you didn't)  8)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 05:55:13 AM
Quote from: Christo on September 21, 2013, 03:14:29 AM
Again, a mix of the familiar and perhaps less familiar. (BTW, this thread made me realize once again that I never played Moeran's concerto, though I love his music; always missing this particular piece because I never bought the Chandos recording and not even the new Naxos recording. Am surprised a bit that nobody came up with it, so far.  ::))

Camille Saint-Saëns, Cello Concerto No. 2
Frank Bridge, Oration, Concerto elegiaco
Leo Smit, Cello Concertino
Dmitri Shostakovich, Cello Concerto No. 1
Samuel Barber, Cello Concerto
Bohuslav Martinů, Cello Concerto No. 2
Heitor Villa-Lobos, Cello Concerto No. 2
Camargo Guarnieri, Chôro para violonchelo y orquesta
Arnold Cooke, Cello Concerto
Pēteris Vasks, Cello Concerto

Edit: oops, forgot Finzi (but many of you didn't)  8)

Nice list, Johan! Nice to see the Bridge getting some love around here. I'm not familiar with the Smit or Cooke concertos you listed. Re the Moeran, it's a lovely work that I could've included in my honorable mentions. It has that same autumnal, nostalgic feel as the Miaskovsky CC.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 06:09:25 AM
Quote from: springrite on September 20, 2013, 08:59:39 PM
Moret

Interesting. I've heard of Moret before, but I've never heard any of his music. I see there are two recordings available of the CC:

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Also, I see Mutter has recorded his VC:

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There's also another Musiques Suisses disc of his orchestral music. Yes! Another new composer to explore! :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on September 21, 2013, 06:42:21 AM
Kyle, have you ever heard Sculthorpe's Cello Dreaming? I think you would really enjoy this work. I included this work in my top 10 list.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 08:47:55 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 21, 2013, 06:42:21 AM
Kyle, have you ever heard Sculthorpe's Cello Dreaming? I think you would really enjoy this work. I included this work in my top 10 list.

Yes, I have, and it's a beautiful, haunting work. It just wouldn't necessarily make it into my top 10. :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Daverz on September 21, 2013, 09:06:39 AM
Quote from: kyjo on September 20, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
You don't have to participate......

I participated by mentioning a recording I like.

This thread doesn't "belong" to you because you started it.  You need to learn how to let other people have their say and stop trying to dominate the discussion.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 09:29:36 AM
Quote from: Daverz on September 21, 2013, 09:06:39 AM
I participated by mentioning a recording I like.

This thread doesn't "belong" to you because you started it.  You need to learn how to let other people have their say and stop trying to dominate the discussion.

How am I not letting anyone have their say? You're making mountains out of molehills, Dave.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Sergeant Rock on September 21, 2013, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: Annie on September 21, 2013, 08:12:46 AM
Saint-Saens Op 33 Chang/Rostropovich/LSO

Excellent, great recording  8)  In 1996 I heard her perform the S-S CC, Dutoit conducting. Her first note was so powerful, the sound literally punched me in the stomach. She signed the CD at intermission. It was like talking to a valley girl  :D Adorable. She said she was looking forward to recording Haydn with Sinopoli.

(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/goodmusic/SSChang.jpg)

Sarge
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Brahmsian on September 21, 2013, 10:16:29 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Lalo's Cello Concerto?

I don't know if I've actually heard 10 different Cello Concertos to make a list of 10 favourites.  ;D

Well, Dvorak and Schumann's soar high above for me.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: North Star on September 21, 2013, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on September 21, 2013, 10:16:29 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Lalo's Cello Concerto?

I don't know if I've actually heard 10 different Cello Concertos to make a list of 10 favourites.  ;D

Well, Dvorak and Schumann's soar high above for me.
The Lalo is excellent, though I don't think I've heard it after hearing it live couple of years ago. I'm a bit surprised to see how few mention the Schumann here.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kishnevi on September 21, 2013, 11:23:02 AM
I don't see Taverner's Protecting Veil mentioned by anyone.  That's a sort of glaring omission.
And Rongten Cello Concerto No. 2, which is a new work for me, and probably belongs in the "unsung" category.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: North Star on September 21, 2013, 11:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 21, 2013, 11:23:02 AMI don't see Taverner's Protecting Veil mentioned by anyone.  That's a sort of glaring omission.
Yes indeed! I didn't even remember that it counts here.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 01:29:25 PM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 21, 2013, 11:23:02 AM
I don't see Taverner's Protecting Veil mentioned by anyone.  That's a sort of glaring omission.
And Rongten Cello Concerto No. 2, which is a new work for me, and probably belongs in the "unsung" category.

Taverner.......yuck! :P I can't stand his music. At least Part's (to name another "holy minimalist") music has some depth to it, but Taverner's music is embarrassingly trite. All IMHO, of course. :)

I like the Rontgen CCs very much. I particularly like no. 3, which shows stylistic similarities with his close friend Grieg and even Sibelius. There's some interesting orchestration in this work as well.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Karl Henning on September 21, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 01:29:25 PM
Taverner.......yuck! :P I can't stand his music.


I don't know many of Tavener's pieces, but I like The Protecting Veil very well.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on September 21, 2013, 06:44:18 PM

I don't know many of Tavener's pieces, but I like The Protecting Veil very well.

As I always say, each to his own! :) I just don't go for Taverner's spiritual/popular brand of minimalism. It all feels rather cheap and forced to me. If I want spiritual music, I'll head straight for Bruckner or James MacMillan!
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Karl Henning on September 21, 2013, 06:51:12 PM
Well, but are you talking about The Protecting Veil here?  This is not any cheap or forced music at all.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Karl Henning on September 21, 2013, 06:52:39 PM
And actually, I've heard this Tavener piece, and MacMillan's Passion . . . and, while the MacMillan is all right, I think much better of the Tavener piece.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on September 21, 2013, 06:51:12 PM
Well, but are you talking about The Protecting Veil here?  This is not any cheap or forced music at all.

OK, the adjectives "cheap" and "forced" were a little too harsh, I'll admit. I've heard The Protecting Veil, and while it's one of Tavener's better works, I still can't say my impression of it is that favorable. It's a pleasant work at best. My tastes much prefer the grit and drama to be found in MacMillan's music.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: vandermolen on September 22, 2013, 12:18:51 AM
Thought I'd responded to this but can't find list. So here goes:

Kabalevsky No 2 (his best work in my view)
Miaskovsky
Moeran (prefer it to his VC and along with the Symphony his best work. Climax of finale I find overwhelming, especially on Lyrita, with Moeran's wife playing)
Dvorak
Bliss
Finzi
Walton  (prefer it to the Violin Concerto but not to the Viola Concerto)
Samuel Barber
Bridge 'Oration' (wonderful - especially the Epilogue)
Vlasov (on YouTube)

Not in order

Hon mentions: Englund, Bloch's 'Voice in the Wilderness'
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kishnevi on September 22, 2013, 07:48:15 AM
Quote from: kyjo on September 21, 2013, 01:29:25 PM
Taverner.......yuck! :P I can't stand his music. At least Part's (to name another "holy minimalist") music has some depth to it, but Taverner's music is embarrassingly trite. All IMHO, of course. :)

I'm actually mostly in agreement with you here:  I love Protecting Veil,  but everything else I've heard from him rather bores me.  Part for me is hit or miss, and in the choral stuff it's usually more miss, with the hits apparently biased to the instrumental works.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on September 22, 2013, 07:57:02 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on September 22, 2013, 12:18:51 AM
Vlasov (on YouTube)

Interesting choice! I haven't heard it yet, but I do own the set that contains it:

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Will have to give it a listen. :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Karl Henning on September 22, 2013, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 22, 2013, 07:48:15 AM
I'm actually mostly in agreement with you here:  I love Protecting Veil,  but everything else I've heard from him rather bores me.

Partly explains, probably, my disinclination to explore much Tavener . . . content to like The Protecting Veil very well  0:)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: vandermolen on May 24, 2015, 06:55:49 AM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 22, 2013, 07:48:15 AM
I'm actually mostly in agreement with you here:  I love Protecting Veil,  but everything else I've heard from him rather bores me.  Part for me is hit or miss, and in the choral stuff it's usually more miss, with the hits apparently biased to the instrumental works.

I actually his earlier more experimental psychedelic kind of work like 'The Whale' which commences with a narrator reading the section on whales from the Encyclopedia Brittanica 'Statistics on whales are collected by the Norwegian Whaling Committee...etc etc' it always makes me smile and the work is fun - I have even heard it live in the presence of the composer. Another early work I like is the 'Celtic Requiem'.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Christo on May 25, 2015, 01:13:19 PM
First attempt, with little time to think it over:

Barber
Finzi
Bridge 'Oration'
Moeran
Bliss
Holmboe
Englund
Hindemith
Villa-Lobos No. 2
Vasks



Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Brian on May 25, 2015, 06:45:57 PM
Making a note here to (re-)listen to the following cello concertos:
Martinu 1 & 2
Casella
Leshnoff
Vasks
Barber
Rautavaara 1 & 2
Schoeck
Frank Martin

One cello concerto which I decisively DIS-like is Lalo's. I've given it chances, but the incessant dramatic orchestral chords in the first movement drive me mad with irritation. They seem to never end.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Ken B on May 25, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: Brian on May 25, 2015, 06:45:57 PM
Making a note here to (re-)listen to the following cello concertos:
Martinu 1 & 2
Casella
Leshnoff
Vasks
Barber
Rautavaara 1 & 2
Schoeck
Frank Martin

One cello concerto which I decisively DIS-like is Lalo's. I've given it chances, but the incessant dramatic orchestral chords in the first movement drive me mad with irritation. They seem to never end.

It occurs to me I don't know if I own the Martinu. Probably ...
I don't know Lesnoff but the others are all fine.

My first choice is Shosty 2. Others on the list in no order include
Shosty 1
Walton
Bloch Schelomo
Dvorak
Glass

Need to revisit Rautavaara and Martin. Finzi probably makes the list, as probably does Barber.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: EigenUser on May 27, 2015, 03:23:28 PM
Dvorak
Feldman Cello and Orchestra
Gulda
Elgar
Ohana In Dark and Blue
Schumann
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on October 02, 2017, 09:48:21 AM
Time to update my list:

Dvorak 2 ;D (let's not ignore the fine early A major concerto)
Shostakovich 1 (2 is a close second)
Haydn D major (the C major is a close second)
Martinu 1 (2 is a close second)
Kabalevsky 2
Herbert 2
Schnittke 1
Walton
Dohnányi (Konzertstück)
Finzi/Miaskovsky/Weinberg/Bridge (Oration)/Saint-Saëns 2 - can't decide :-[
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: springrite on October 02, 2017, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: Brian on May 25, 2015, 06:45:57 PM
Making a note here to (re-)listen to the following cello concertos:
Martinu 1 & 2
Casella
Leshnoff
Vasks
Barber
Rautavaara 1 & 2
Schoeck
Frank Martin


I knew I forgot an important one, shockingly so: Schoeck!
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: SymphonicAddict on October 02, 2017, 05:26:34 PM
Atterberg
Dvorák Op. 104
Finzi
Kabalevsky 2
Khachaturian
Lutoslawski
Schnittke 1
Shostakovich 1
Villa-Lobos 2
Weinberg


I had to leave out the next ones: Miaskovsky, Moeran, Walton, Martinu 2, Hindemith both concertos, Barber, Englund, Penderecki 1.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on October 02, 2017, 06:31:57 PM
Quote from: SymphonicAddict on October 02, 2017, 05:26:34 PM
Atterberg
Dvorák Op. 104
Finzi
Kabalevsky 2
Khachaturian
Lutoslawski
Schnittke 1
Shostakovich 1
Villa-Lobos 2
Weinberg


I had to leave out the next ones: Miaskovsky, Moeran, Walton, Martinu 2, Hindemith both concertos, Barber, Englund, Penderecki 1.

Great list! I could've easily included the Atterberg (though not one of his better works IMO) and Villa-Lobos 2. The Lutosławski is a fascinating work which I feel will grow on me with repeated listening. I found the Khachaturian concerto a bit disappointing but I must revisit. Must check out the Moeran and Englund concertos.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on October 02, 2017, 06:34:41 PM
Quote from: kyjo on October 02, 2017, 06:31:57 PM
Great list! I could've easily included the Atterberg (though not one of his better works IMO) and Villa-Lobos 2. The Lutosławski is a fascinating work which I feel will grow on me with repeated listening. I found the Khachaturian concerto a bit disappointing but I must revisit. Must check out the Moeran and Englund concertos.

I think you'll dig the Moeran Cello Concerto, Kyle. Right up your alley I would think.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Daverz on October 02, 2017, 06:59:34 PM
Martinu 1
Shostakovich 1
Dvorak
Frank Martin
Hindemith (1940)
Toch
Weinberg
Haydn in C
Prokofiev Symphonie Concertante
One of CPE Bach's, not sure which one
Elgar
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on October 02, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on October 02, 2017, 06:34:41 PM
I think you'll dig the Moeran Cello Concerto, Kyle. Right up your alley I would think.

I'll definitely check it out, along with the Martin CC :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Mirror Image on October 02, 2017, 07:17:21 PM
Quote from: kyjo on October 02, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
I'll definitely check it out, along with the Martin CC :)

8)
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on October 02, 2017, 07:18:08 PM
Quote from: Daverz on October 02, 2017, 06:59:34 PM
One of CPE Bach's, not sure which one

The only one of CPE Bach's cello concertos I know is the A major (the most famous one, I believe), which is a lovely work.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Daverz on October 02, 2017, 08:07:12 PM
Yes, CPE Bach Wq 172 is a good choice.  A deeply felt slow movement.

I also forgot a particular favorite: Guarnieri's Choro for Cello.

https://www.youtube.com/v/CaZmQ6HhljI
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: SymphonicAddict on October 02, 2017, 08:57:32 PM
Quote from: kyjo on October 02, 2017, 06:31:57 PM
Great list! I could've easily included the Atterberg (though not one of his better works IMO) and Villa-Lobos 2. The Lutosławski is a fascinating work which I feel will grow on me with repeated listening. I found the Khachaturian concerto a bit disappointing but I must revisit. Must check out the Moeran and Englund concertos.

Atterberg's best concerto is the piano one, but the cello concerto doesn't disappoint me, it has some dreamy melodies. The war-time cello concerto by Khachaturian is engaging: it possesses enough drama to represent the dark moments of that conflict. I find the 2nd mov. especially atmospheric and pensive with help of those mysterious flutes. And yes, you should check out the Moeran's and the Englund's. I find them strong as well.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Christo on October 05, 2017, 02:55:04 AM
Quote from: Daverz on October 02, 2017, 08:07:12 PMI also forgot a particular favorite: Guarnieri's Choro for Cello.
https://www.youtube.com/v/CaZmQ6HhljI
Yes! Great to hear this performance again, which I had on vinyl in the 1980s but didn't see again in the digital age. Great stuff, great composer.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: vandermolen on October 05, 2017, 04:38:22 AM
Must hear the Guarnieri - a fine composer.
New list (probably the same as the old one in a different order  ::))

Kabalevsky 2
Moeran
Miaskovsky
Mckewen: Hills o' Heather
Bliss
Bridge: Oration
Dvorak
Honegger
Bloch: Voice in the Wilderness
Bloch: Schelomo
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: André on October 05, 2017, 05:47:00 AM
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Not quite a list, and more than just 10, but hard to beat as a compilation, as interpretations and as value for money !

The Kernis (Colored Field) and Miaskovsky are beautiful works. Only Lutoslawski is missing among favourite cello concertos.

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Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on January 03, 2019, 11:30:17 AM
Time for a new list:

Dvorak B minor
Shostakovich no. 1
Finzi
Vasks no. 1
Atterberg
Gulda (seriously! :D)
Barber
Herbert no. 2
Haydn D major
Walton

And, because this is a GMG poll after all, allow me to extend it to top 15 ;D:

Saint-Saëns 2
Sainsbury
Moeran
Rautavaara no. 1
Schnittke no. 1
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: amw on January 03, 2019, 05:22:46 PM
Prokofiev (Sinfonia Concertante)
Lutosławski
Shostakovich No.2
Dvořák
Weinberg
Dutilleux (Tout un monde lointain)
Myaskovsky
Zimmermann (en forme de 'pas de trois')
Sciarrino (Variazioni)

I guess a fairly mainstream list & I'm not sure how many of them I'd be able to fit on a deserted island.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on January 04, 2019, 09:23:41 AM
Quote from: amw on January 03, 2019, 05:22:46 PM
Prokofiev (Sinfonia Concertante)
Lutosławski
Shostakovich No.2
Dvořák
Weinberg
Dutilleux (Tout un monde lointain)
Myaskovsky
Zimmermann (en forme de 'pas de trois')
Sciarrino (Variazioni)

I guess a fairly mainstream list & I'm not sure how many of them I'd be able to fit on a deserted island.

Nice list, not "mainstream" at all! I could've included the Weinberg, Dutilleux, and Myaskovsky concerti myself. I'll have to check out the Zimmermann and Sciarrino works.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Dima on January 04, 2019, 02:12:38 PM

Top cello concertos imho:

1. Anton Rubinstein - Cello concerto N1: https://youtu.be/0IVGOYSTFyQ
2. Anton Rubinstein - Cello concerto N2: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/8Y4Q/UrUDdYHMg
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on January 04, 2019, 02:50:16 PM
Quote from: Dima on January 04, 2019, 02:12:38 PM
Top cello concertos imho:

1. Anton Rubinstein - Cello concerto N1: https://youtu.be/0IVGOYSTFyQ
2. Anton Rubinstein - Cello concerto N2: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/8Y4Q/UrUDdYHMg

Interesting choices! I'll have to give them a listen.
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Maestro267 on January 21, 2019, 09:53:47 AM
Lutoslawski
Dutilleux
MacMillan
Elgar
Dvorak
Finzi
Penderecki 2
Ginastera 2
Shostakovich 2
Bliss
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: kyjo on August 04, 2020, 04:58:11 PM
Today's list:

Atterberg
CPE Bach A major
Dvorak B minor
Finzi
Honegger
Kabalevsky no. 2
Pizzetti
Shostakovich no. 2
Walton
Weinberg
Title: Re: Top 10 Favorite Cello Concerti
Post by: Symphonic Addict on October 17, 2020, 07:39:32 PM
Casella (I don't know why I had overlooked it, absolutely terrific piece)
Castelnuovo-Tedesco
Dvorak "the famous one"
Finzi
Honegger
Linde
Lutoslawski
Kabalevsky 2
Martinu 2
Shostakovich 1