The Beatles albums remixed by Giles Martin

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Karl Henning

Quote from: Spotted Horses on October 06, 2022, 11:53:57 AM
I came to know the Beatles with the red and blue anthology albums on vinyl ....

Moi aussi. I remember seeing them in the window of a shop on the main street in my hometown, and going in to buy 'em. They were my entrée to quite a few of my favorite Beatles songs.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Herman

I have a remastered  / remixed Beatles Abbey Road, and my sense was that the bass is too massive. One cannot help but think it's not a great idea to have Paul M. (otherwise a superb guy) be part of the remastering process. He just can't help inching that lever for the bass track a little bit higher.

I remember when Abbey Road came out. I put the speakerboxes on the floor and l lay on the floor with my head between them. The perception at the time was this was the best album they ever made, and I can't remember any drama when they split. They were done.

Szykneij

Quote from: vandermolen on October 06, 2022, 12:52:26 PM
One of my favourite Rock concerts in my youth was seeing the group Santana live in London.

I saw Santana a number of years ago at an outdoor venue south of Boston. The opening act was some guy named Bob Dylan. 🙂
Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

Don't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel Paige

aukhawk

Quote from: DavidW on October 07, 2022, 04:50:23 AM
That is so funny!  I don't see how remastering is in the blood. :laugh:

Giles Martin and George Martin worked together extensively, over a period of years, in the early 2000s.  I expect some of the magic rubbed off.

Spotted Horses

Quote from: vandermolen on October 07, 2022, 08:28:49 AM
Sounds like a fun evening!

It reminds me of a related incident from some months before. I was a student at Columbia College in upper Manhattan and, for some reason, decided to walk from campus to Grand Central Terminal, rather than taking the subway. Walking past then Metropolitan Museum of Art on 5th avenue I saw a camera crew filming a bizarrely dressed woman dancing down the steps of the Museum followed by a cohort of followers, as an unfamiliar song played on a sound system. I stopped to watch, and a production assistant asked to borrow a book I was carrying, and she gave it to one of the performers to film a scene in which she was sitting on the stepsreading the book but decided to joint the procession.

Later, I saw the video on MTV. It was Cyndi Lauper and they were filming the video for "Girls Just Want to Have Fun." :)

The scene with my book didn't make it into the video. The scene on the steps of the Met appears briefly at about 2:48 in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A
There are simply two kinds of music, good music and the other kind. - Duke Ellington

Karl Henning

Quote from: Herman on October 07, 2022, 10:54:43 PM
I have a remastered  / remixed Beatles Abbey Road, and my sense was that the bass is too massive. One cannot help but think it's not a great idea to have Paul M. (otherwise a superb guy) be part of the remastering process. He just can't help inching that lever for the bass track a little bit higher.

I remember when Abbey Road came out. I put the speakerboxes on the floor and l lay on the floor with my head between them. The perception at the time was this was the best album they ever made, and I can't remember any drama when they split. They were done.

Of course, while they were a quartet there would have been balancing input. Something from which even Sir Paul might benefit. Whatever Giles Martin's strengths, he may not have either the nerve or inclination to push back against a musical legend.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Spotted Horses

Quote from: aukhawk on October 08, 2022, 03:13:24 AM
Giles Martin and George Martin worked together extensively, over a period of years, in the early 2000s.  I expect some of the magic rubbed off.

Well, I guess some oral history may have been imparted there. If there are people out there that want to hear Beatles albums remixed, why not? But I find myself more interested in the sources produced when all four Beatles were present to approve the result.
There are simply two kinds of music, good music and the other kind. - Duke Ellington

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 08, 2022, 06:21:05 AM
Of course, while they were a quartet there would have been balancing input. Something from which even Sir Paul might benefit. Whatever Giles Martin's strengths, he may not have either the nerve or inclination to push back against a musical legend.

That's how I see it.

Btw, George played bass for She Said She Said. So it won't be loud in the remix. Also funny thing is that George said he played the bass for his Old Brown Shoe while Paul thinks he did. To me the bass line sounds  too simple for Paul's bass.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 08, 2022, 06:35:33 AM
That's how I see it.

Btw, George played bass for She Said She Said. So it won't be loud in the remix.

That would be funny if it were not so Paul-centric. 8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Szykneij on October 08, 2022, 03:08:40 AM
I saw Santana a number of years ago at an outdoor venue south of Boston. The opening act was some guy named Bob Dylan. 🙂
Cool!  When was this?  :)

PD
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KevinP

I got the five-cd set pre-ordered, in keeping with the previous sets. I don't get the larger vinyl edition not because they're so expensive per se, but because the price is over the duty-free threshold and I'd have to pay way more than the sticker price.

With the exchange rate, I might get stuck paying it even with this set. The strength of the US dollar is taking the fun out of international orders for us expats.

Karl Henning

Quote from: KevinP on October 08, 2022, 03:44:03 PM
I got the five-cd set pre-ordered, in keeping with the previous sets. I don't get the larger vinyl edition not because they're so expensive per se, but because the price is over the duty-free threshold and I'd have to pay way more than the sticker price.

With the exchange rate, I might get stuck paying it even with this set. The strength of the US dollar is taking the fun out of international orders for us expats.

The 5-CD edition was a mild temptation, I do confess.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: KevinP on October 08, 2022, 03:44:03 PM
I got the five-cd set pre-ordered, in keeping with the previous sets. I don't get the larger vinyl edition not because they're so expensive per se, but because the price is over the duty-free threshold and I'd have to pay way more than the sticker price.

With the exchange rate, I might get stuck paying it even with this set. The strength of the US dollar is taking the fun out of international orders for us expats.

What are your fav songs in Revolver Kevin?


Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 08, 2022, 06:21:05 AM
Of course, while they were a quartet there would have been balancing input. Something from which even Sir Paul might benefit. Whatever Giles Martin's strengths, he may not have either the nerve or inclination to push back against a musical legend.

Somebody must tell Paul!  ;D

KevinP

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 08, 2022, 04:01:53 PM
What are your fav songs in Revolver Kevin?

Rigby; Only Sleeping; Here, There and Everywhere, Got to Get you into my Life, Tomorrow Never Knows. The last one is one I enjoy more for the production and as a concept than as a song unto itself.

The only weak links are Love you To, and Sunshine. If LYT was the only sitar-based, overtly Indian Beatles song, I'd probably think very highly of it, but Harrison did it again on the next album and did it much better then. Plus it doesn't have an annoying title.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: KevinP on October 08, 2022, 04:24:42 PM
Rigby; Only Sleeping; Here, There and Everywhere, Got to Get you into my Life, Tomorrow Never Knows. The last one is one I enjoy more for the production and as a concept than as a song unto itself.

The only weak links are Love you To, and Sunshine. If LYT was the only sitar-based, overtly Indian Beatles song, I'd probably think very highly of it, but Harrison did it again on the next album and did it much better then. Plus it doesn't have an annoying title.

Nice songs! Agreed, the two songs you mentioned are not very strong. Also as SimonNZ said years ago, I have no idea why Yellow Submarine is in the album!

KevinP

I don't mind Yellow Submarine. It's a novelty that works. I'll take it over All Together Now.

Szykneij

Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

Don't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel Paige

LKB

Quote from: KevinP on October 08, 2022, 04:40:46 PM
I don't mind Yellow Submarine. It's a novelty that works. I'll take it over All Together Now.

+1
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vandermolen

Quote from: Spotted Horses on October 08, 2022, 03:29:42 AM
It reminds me of a related incident from some months before. I was a student at Columbia College in upper Manhattan and, for some reason, decided to walk from campus to Grand Central Terminal, rather than taking the subway. Walking past then Metropolitan Museum of Art on 5th avenue I saw a camera crew filming a bizarrely dressed woman dancing down the steps of the Museum followed by a cohort of followers, as an unfamiliar song played on a sound system. I stopped to watch, and a production assistant asked to borrow a book I was carrying, and she gave it to one of the performers to film a scene in which she was sitting on the stepsreading the book but decided to joint the procession.

Later, I saw the video on MTV. It was Cyndi Lauper and they were filming the video for "Girls Just Want to Have Fun." :)

The scene with my book didn't make it into the video. The scene on the steps of the Met appears briefly at about 2:48 in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A
Well, that was fun - I just watched the video.
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