This forum seems like a graveyard, with only two threads having any posts in the last 12 hours. I guess this is what happens when you ban all members that have anything controversal to say and then move the site to a new URL. Ho-hum.
Ditto! As childish as some posters may have been in the past, I find banning them even more childish.
Other than M forever, who's been banned? Inevitably a changeover requiring re-registration may take some time to gain momentum. If you feel the forum "seems like a graveyard," I see nothing to prevent either of you from posting something sufficiently lively to resurrect it.
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on April 12, 2007, 08:31:29 AM
Other than M forever, who's been banned?
Didn't a few others leave subsequently in protest?
In the entire lifetime of the "old" forum, with many thousands of members over the years, there were a total of 3 bannings. Hardly what one could call an avalanche of "all members that have anything controversial to say..." ::)
8)
Quote from: O Mensch on April 12, 2007, 08:40:52 AM
Didn't a few others leave subsequently in protest?
Their choice entirely.
8)
Quote from: O Mensch on April 12, 2007, 08:40:52 AM
Didn't a few others leave subsequently in protest?
Yes, that is correct, but as Gurn says, only three were officially banned.
--Bruce
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 12, 2007, 08:42:53 AM
In the entire lifetime of the "old" forum, with many thousands of members over the years, there were a total of 3 bannings. Hardly what one could call an avalanche of "all members that have anything controversial to say..." ::)
8)
Sad that in the lifetime of the old forum only three people with something interesting to say showed up. But aside from the elimination of the non-boring posters, the bannings have a chilling effect on those who remain, who know that they must remain innocuous to stay. The result is the blather that we see here. I also find it interesting that my dyspeptic post has generated more activity than anything else on the board today.
Quote from: bhodges on April 12, 2007, 08:44:14 AM
Yes, that is correct, but as Gurn says, only three were officially banned.
--Bruce
I still don't understand why M got banned. So some are put-off by his agressive nature. But why should anyone let what M said bother them? Are they that thin-skinned? I mean other than exchanges on this forum we don't know M and M doesn't know us, we are basically strangers to each other. Why should I care what a stranger thinks about me?
What ever happen to the old saying: sticks and stones hurt but words don't.
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 07:59:47 AM
This forum seems like a graveyard...
I don't agree ,all my favorite posters are here making scintillating conversation.
Quote from: bhodges on April 12, 2007, 08:44:14 AM
Yes, that is correct, but as Gurn says, only three were officially banned.
--Bruce
Four would be the sum if Saul had stayed a few more weeks.
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 08:53:09 AM
Sad that in the lifetime of the old forum only three people with something interesting to say showed up.
Do I understand correctly, then, that you are including yourself in the boring group? Why bother to post, then?
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 08:53:09 AM
Sad that in the lifetime of the old forum only three people with something interesting to say showed up. But aside from the elimination of the non-boring posters, the bannings have a chilling effect on those who remain, who know that they must remain innocuous to stay. The result is the blather that we see here. I also find it interesting that my dyspeptic post has generated more activity than anything else on the board today.
Perhaps you find it interesting, but you certainly can't find it surprising, considering that was obviously your intention from the beginning. Isn't that how you guys work, or am I confused? FWIW, it is possible to say something interesting without insulting someone or generating a thread to start trouble. However, this assumes that the poster does not have pissing off other people as his primary goal in life. People do not get banned for saying something interesting (does anyone
really believe this?), they get banned for breaking the rules. Rules that they are aware of when they sign on. If you ask me (yes, I realize you didn't, oh well), things here are too lenient. The longer the abusive and disrespectful members are allowed to stay, the more this behavior has a tendency of spreading.
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 08:53:09 AM
Sad that in the lifetime of the old forum only three people with something interesting to say showed up. But aside from the elimination of the non-boring posters, the bannings have a chilling effect on those who remain, who know that they must remain innocuous to stay. The result is the blather that we see here. I also find it interesting that my dyspeptic post has generated more activity than anything else on the board today.
Of your five posts on this board, two have been immortalized on this thread; the other three here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,170.msg3179.html#msg3179
Your scintillating comments are an inspiration to us all.
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 07:59:47 AM
This forum seems like a graveyard, with only two threads having any posts in the last 12 hours. I guess this is what happens when you ban all members that have anything controversal to say and then move the site to a new URL. Ho-hum.
I just checked the stats; there have been on average 533 posts per day. Dead? If you want to see dead, visit CMG or the Gramophone forum.
Sarge
I quarrelled bitterly with M Forever on the old forum. Boy, what a heated struggle we had! Sometimes I miss him. :)
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on April 12, 2007, 10:14:49 AM
Of your five posts on this board, two have been immortalized on this thread; the other three here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,170.msg3179.html#msg3179
Your scintillating comments are an inspiration to us all.
;D
Thanks for the bright sunshine on this otherwise dreary day. :)
Quote from: George on April 12, 2007, 10:01:11 AM
People do not get banned for saying something interesting (does anyone really believe this?), they get banned for breaking the rules. Rules that they are aware of when they sign on. If you ask me (yes, I realize you didn't, oh well), things here are too lenient.
The rule, as near as I can see, is that you can't stay if the administrator doesn't like you. Fair enough, its his sandbox and we are here at his pleasure, afterall.
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 10:25:35 AM
The rule, as near as I can see, is that you can't stay if the administrator doesn't like you. Fair enough, its his sandbox and we are here at his pleasure, afterall.
These are the only rules that I know about here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,5.0.html (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,5.0.html)
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 08:53:09 AM
Sad that in the lifetime of the old forum only three people with something interesting to say showed up. But aside from the elimination of the non-boring posters, the bannings have a chilling effect on those who remain, who know that they must remain innocuous to stay. The result is the blather that we see here. I also find it interesting that my dyspeptic post has generated more activity than anything else on the board today.
resurrect the forum then! or are you just as boring as the rest? cut the bullshit and say something interesting!
Quote from: MahlerTitan on April 12, 2007, 10:35:25 AM
resurrect the forum then! or are you just as boring as the rest? cut the bullshit and say something interesting!
I don't think thats possible.....
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 08:53:09 AM
Sad that in the lifetime of the old forum only three people with something interesting to say showed up. But aside from the elimination of the non-boring posters, the bannings have a chilling effect on those who remain, who know that they must remain innocuous to stay. The result is the blather that we see here. I also find it interesting that my dyspeptic post has generated more activity than anything else on the board today.
You seem to know quite a lot about the old GMG... Should we assume you were
once part of it?
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on April 12, 2007, 08:31:29 AM
Other than M forever, who's been banned? Inevitably a changeover requiring re-registration may take some time to gain momentum. If you feel the forum "seems like a graveyard," I see nothing to prevent either of you from posting something sufficiently lively to resurrect it.
What happened to Saul? I haven't seen any posts from him either. I suppose he was also banned, even if not as lamented as M Forever.
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 12, 2007, 10:17:05 AM
I just checked the stats; there have been on average 533 posts per day. Dead? If you want to see dead, visit CMG or the Gramophone forum.
Sarge
I think the Gramophone forum kills itself because of the format of the forum. You can can never see all the discussions or answers so too much goes unnoticed. Besides, most of the posters are really not very interesting.
Quote from: Bunny on April 12, 2007, 01:40:29 PM
What happened to Saul? I haven't seen any posts from him either.
He was not banned, but left of his own accord.
--Bruce
Quote from: bhodges on April 12, 2007, 01:47:55 PM
He was not banned, but left of his own accord.
--Bruce
Well, I guess that's to be expected. Sometimes his posts really made it too easy to abuse him.
Quote from: Bunny on April 12, 2007, 01:49:20 PM
Well, I guess that's to be expected. Sometimes his posts really made it too easy to abuse him.
sad but true......
Saul is now spreading the word at CMG. And it is frightening.
Am I wrong in thinking he is now one of the less reactionary, more thoughtful members of CMG?
(Sadly, I'm only half joking - a recent arm's-length, barge-pole-at-the-ready perusal showed me that his outrageously maniacal views seem to be taken relatively seriously there by some ??? ??? )
Quote from: lukeottevanger on April 12, 2007, 01:54:33 PM
Am I wrong in thinking he is now one of the less reactionary, more thoughtful members of CMG?
;D :D ;D
Sarge
Quote from: head-case on April 12, 2007, 10:25:35 AM
The rule, as near as I can see, is that you can't stay if the administrator doesn't like you. Fair enough, its his sandbox and we are here at his pleasure, afterall.
To clarify:
There were 3 banned members over several years of running the old forum. Those members were banned because of repeatedly disrupting the forum. It has nothing to do with me liking them or not. In fact, I quite liked at least one of the members I banned, and felt sad that I had to take that course of action with him.
There are NO banned members on this new forum.
The rules of conduct are spelled out very clearly here: GMG Forum Guidelines (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,5.0.html). I encourage ALL members to read thease Guidelines. They are not very restrictive and, for most people, simply common sense.
Happy listening and happy posting,
cheers
Rob
Quote from: Bunny on April 12, 2007, 01:40:29 PM
What happened to Saul? I haven't seen any posts from him either. I suppose he was also banned
Having written this a few hours ago
Quote from: ManuelFour would be the sum (of banned members) if Saul had stayed a few more weeks.
I suppose you are ignoring me... :P
Quote from: pjme on April 12, 2007, 01:54:14 PM
Saul is now spreading the word at CMG. And it is frightening.
If you can assure me that M Forever is there to abuse him, I'll be sure to take a look at things over there. ;D
Quote from: Bunny on April 12, 2007, 03:33:46 PM
If you can assure me that M Forever is there to abuse him, I'll be sure to take a look at things over there. ;D
I think M was banned from that board. Wasn't he?
Yes.
Mike
Quote from: Bunny on April 12, 2007, 01:49:20 PM
Well, I guess that's to be expected. Sometimes his posts really made it too easy to abuse him.
And we were generally far too ready to abuse him, I believe.
I could have sworn Saul was banned at CMG a while back. There was a poster that came there which was a lot like him. Right down to throwing a fit if someone insinuated the Mendelssohn was not in fact the greatest composer ever.
EDIT: Since some people seem to be interested in what kind of havoc he's causing 'over there'...
I just decided to cut to the most stupid thing I could find and save you all the trouble: http://classicalmusicguide.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16507&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
What happened to Mark? The Opera in English guy...he used to post alot...
He's still around, just not posting quite as often. I saw him in a thread recently, I believe. :)
Quote from: Manuel on April 12, 2007, 04:19:59 PM
I think M was banned from that board. Wasn't he?
He still frequents rmcr occasionally.