Any good music/recording with Arabic, or Middle-eastern, theme/scale?
Persian rather than Arabic, so feel free to disregard, but Reza Vali is a pretty interesting composer who requires all sorts of new tunings of his performers.
Quote from: Brian on September 15, 2020, 07:34:17 AM
Persian rather than Arabic, so feel free to disregard, but Reza Vali is a pretty interesting composer who requires all sorts of new tunings of his performers.
Great info! I will check it out. I was thinking about a term "muslim" because I didn't want to preclude Persian (or Turkish) influences, but ended up using the term Arabic.
Phrygian dominant?
Quote from: Brian on September 15, 2020, 07:34:17 AM
Persian rather than Arabic, so feel free to disregard, but Reza Vali is a pretty interesting composer who requires all sorts of new tunings of his performers.
I have the Reza Vali CD on Naxos, but of course Amazon doesn't have cover picture! >:D
Resphighi Belkis, Queen of Sheba.
Saint Saens Bacchanale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbkCfxnoY4A
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 15, 2020, 07:46:42 AM
Great info! I will check it out. I was thinking about a term "muslim" because I didn't want to preclude Persian (or Turkish) influences, but ended up using the term Arabic.
Turkish - definitely Fazil Say. He has composed a lot of solo piano works for himself but probably the best or easiest starting point is his violin concerto "1001 Nights in the Harem" which is built around folk drumming and (in the third movement) a Turkish melody which dates back to the 1700s. In the 1900s the tune was set with a love poem that family lore claims was about one of my great-great-uncles (it's about a girl who goes to a government office and falls for a cute bureaucrat) (not joking), and then badly translated and turned into an Eartha Kitt single.
Quote from: relm1 on September 16, 2020, 06:38:23 AM
Resphighi Belkis, Queen of Sheba.
Saint Saens Bacchanale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbkCfxnoY4A
The both, especially Respighi, sound great and aesthetic. Thank you!
Quote from: Brian on September 16, 2020, 06:55:25 AM
Turkish - definitely Fazil Say. He has composed a lot of solo piano works for himself but probably the best or easiest starting point is his violin concerto "1001 Nights in the Harem" which is built around folk drumming and (in the third movement) a Turkish melody which dates back to the 1700s. In the 1900s the tune was set with a love poem that family lore claims was about one of my great-great-uncles (it's about a girl who goes to a government office and falls for a cute bureaucrat) (not joking), and then badly translated and turned into an Eartha Kitt single.
I checked the V Concerto, Mesopotamia Symphony and a few piano pieces. They all are wonderful. I noticed that he released several albums, including the 1001, from Naive label. A few members and I discussed about the label a few weeks ago. Thanks for the info.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81cI87WogKL._SX355_.jpg)
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Quote from: 71 dB on September 15, 2020, 07:56:56 AM
I have the Reza Vali CD on Naxos, but of course Amazon doesn't have cover picture! >:D
I revisited this disc and I have to say I don't like it much. With headphones the spatiality is really ugly. With speakers the soundstage is "airy", but the music itself isn't my cup of tea. I also find the recording too dynamic. Half of the time the sound is too quiet and half of the time it's too loud. :-X
Quote from: 71 dB on September 19, 2020, 05:01:18 AM
I revisited this disc and I have to say I don't like it much. With headphones the spatiality is really ugly. With speakers the soundstage is "airy", but the music itself isn't my cup of tea. I also find the recording too dynamic. Half of the time the sound is too quiet and half of the time it's too loud. :-X
I like this album.
I'd say this
https://mahoor.com/en/cd/18756-in-memoriam
Morocco Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUHA0T3AId4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuOw0Mm4aj0
Quote from: Roy Bland on September 21, 2020, 02:59:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuOw0Mm4aj0
Thank you very much for the various suggestions. Palmyra sounds great. Especially I like the 7/8, first movement. It has a vibrant Arabic feel. The Moroccan Symphony is rather an advanced composition. While I enjoyed the first listen, I must re-listen it a few more times. While the suggested piano recording offers many memorable compositions, I found the other guy on the web, Morteza Mahjoobi, very talented and interesting as well. He modifies piano tuning, and the instrument sounds like a traditional Iranian instrument. I was fascinated by all the music suggested by you. If you find other pieces, please let us know. I appreciate your refined suggestions.
Thank for your appreciation!
An arab composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkr_LTLG20
Quote from: Roy Bland on September 21, 2020, 02:50:33 PM
Thank for your appreciation!
An arab composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkr_LTLG20
This is rather elegant and classy music. Also, I listened Morocco Symphony several times, and I think it is an excellent composition.
Check out Amirov's excellent Piano Concerto on Arabian themes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eKqxH7I2_4
Part of this excellent CD any lover of exotic music would enjoy.
https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.572666 (https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.572666)
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 23, 2020, 07:32:49 AM
This is rather elegant and classy music. Also, I listened Morocco Symphony several times, and I think it is an excellent composition.
Thank again.Oud is a traditional arab instrument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW7DhuhkaNg
Quote from: Roy Bland on September 23, 2020, 03:47:08 PM
Thank again.Oud is a traditional arab instrument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW7DhuhkaNg
I've composed for this lovely instrument. I'll look for the recording and post if I find it/don't forget.
You composed Oud music!? Wow! Please post the recording.
Quote from: Roy Bland on September 23, 2020, 03:47:08 PM
Thank again.Oud is a traditional arab instrument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW7DhuhkaNg
Aesthetic music with excellent performance by the orchestra and instrumentalist. Great recording sound as well. The members of orchestra appear to be really enjoying the music they are playing. I am wondering about the strings of instrument. Maybe skin of sheep or another animal? It sounds great.
Kanun and orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah1FHEHjmnA
Quote from: relm1 on September 23, 2020, 03:44:41 PM
Check out Amirov's excellent Piano Concerto on Arabian themes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eKqxH7I2_4
Part of this excellent CD any lover of exotic music would enjoy.
https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.572666 (https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.572666)
I like the music a lot. I checked other works by Amirov, and they are great. Stokowski conducted his Mugham, and Shostakovich admired his music. I ordered the disc you suggested and other discs of his music (pic attached). In case, the below are reviews of the disc. Thank you for the recommendation.
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2011/Dec11/Azerbaijan_PCs_8572666.htm
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2012/Jan12/Azerbaijani_PCs_8572666.htm
Tar and Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q23F5pV8XO4
Quote from: Roy Bland on September 24, 2020, 06:41:57 PM
Kanun and orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah1FHEHjmnA
The instrument, Kanun (or Qanun), sounds wonderful. I adore the color and depth of sound. It sounds a little similar to my favorite Iranian instrument Santoor. The composition is a hybrid of western and Arabic influences. It is a nice mix with Mediterranean feel. As for the Tar Concerto, I imagine it is Iranian/Persian music. The performance is impeccable, and the music has an aura of beauty and mystique. I like the Tar, as well as the small percussion. It is a nice Persian music in a modern/Western format. I have thought about visiting Iran numerous times. But westerners can be arrested with lame reason or no reason any time over there. I should wait for a regime change.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 28, 2020, 06:55:26 AM
The instrument, Kanun (or Qanun), sounds wonderful. I adore the color and depth of sound. It sounds a little similar to my favorite Iranian instrument Santoor. The composition is a hybrid of western and Arabic influences. It is a nice mix with Mediterranean feel. As for the Tar Concerto, I imagine it is Iranian/Persian music. The performance is impeccable, and the music has an aura of beauty and mystique. I like the Tar, as well as the small percussion. It is a nice Persian music in a modern/Western format. I have thought about visiting Iran numerous times. But westerners can be arrested with lame reason or no reason any time over there. I should wait for a regime change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y59NtxPqOe0
Regarding Tar Khanmamedow wrote a lot of music for it.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 24, 2020, 08:47:12 AM
You composed Oud music!? Wow! Please post the recording.
Sorry mate, I missed your post! Here is one of my more ominous cues with a wonderful oudist (?).
https://clyp.it/1pexac0k
Quote from: relm1 on September 28, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
Sorry mate, I missed your post! Here is one of my more ominous cues with a wonderful oudist (?).
https://clyp.it/1pexac0k
Beautiful and authentic music. The composition is well-structured and well-organized. Sounds professional and authentic. I imagine you plan to add more movements and extend the music. Then I would love to hear an entire work. 😍😍
P.s. when you upload the entire Prokofiev pc3, please let me know!
Quote from: Roy Bland on September 28, 2020, 04:01:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y59NtxPqOe0
Regarding Tar Khanmamedow wrote a lot of music for it.
Atmospheric Santoor music with elegance! Thanks a lot.
Attia Sharara was great violinist and composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwrrorRKFPw
Quote from: Roy Bland on September 30, 2020, 04:03:48 PM
Attia Sharara was great violinist and composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwrrorRKFPw
Yes, this is rather noble music with class. I checked the 2nd and 3rd movements and "Samaii" as well, and I like them a lot. I will look for other compositions by him as well. Thanks a lot for the recommendation!
Perhaps Joel Bons, Nomaden:
[asin]B07MCDY1KT[/asin]
https://bis.se/performers/queyras-jean-guihen/joel-bons-nomaden
Egyptian Overture by Omar Khairat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHQB2nUp5U
Here is something from me you might enjoy. It was recorded during the premiere and had some use of exotic and Arabian scales. It was scored for large orchestra of 3.3.3.3/4.3.3.1/timp+3/2 hp/strings and around 18 minutes in duration.
https://clyp.it/m45qqin4
Persian, not Arabic
https://www.golfamkhayam.com/naqsh-duo
Hassan by Delius. A wonderful work. It consists of incidental music to the eponymous play by J. E. Flecker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_D2HTHCqU
Quote from: relm1 on October 02, 2020, 04:39:37 PM
Here is something from me you might enjoy. It was recorded during the premiere and had some use of exotic and Arabian scales. It was scored for large orchestra of 3.3.3.3/4.3.3.1/timp+3/2 hp/strings and around 18 minutes in duration.
https://clyp.it/m45qqin4
Sounds great and totally professional. I would love to hear the entire work! Any plan to upload it on YT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd21-5UeaSY
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 03, 2020, 05:09:14 PM
Sounds great and totally professional. I would love to hear the entire work! Any plan to upload it on YT?
Thanks! I'm not to pleased with the piece or the performance to glad to hear it might just be my being overly critical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3glhENdUI8o
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 02, 2020, 03:32:13 PM
Egyptian Overture by Omar Khairat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHQB2nUp5U
This is a hybrid of Egyptian and western music. Maybe Egyptian 40% and western 60%. The composition is sophisticated and impressive. It has a nice atmosphere.
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 03, 2020, 05:38:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd21-5UeaSY
I think the violinist is the composer as well. Fine composition and it is well-structured. I like the rhythmic foundation as well. Sounds very exotic. The Lebanese orchestra is a very good orchestra.
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 04, 2020, 07:57:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3glhENdUI8o
I like this composition, Wedding-Kian Azmeh, a lot. While the music is Arabic, the composition is very advanced. The harmony proceeds based on a new system, rather than 4th or 5th. The melody and orchestration are tasteful and elegant. If there is any studio recording, I would like to purchase it.
A westernized piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1u5VP884GU
Quote from: André on October 02, 2020, 06:24:06 PM
Hassan by Delius. A wonderful work. It consists of incidental music to the eponymous play by J. E. Flecker.
Yes it is vivacious, picturesque music. Very good composition.
Quote from: Daverz on October 02, 2020, 12:55:41 AM
Perhaps Joel Bons, Nomaden:
[asin]B07MCDY1KT[/asin]
https://bis.se/performers/queyras-jean-guihen/joel-bons-nomaden
Some movements are very progressive and some are traditional. It is a unique mix. I enjoyed the music a lot.
Qatar orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKTVYwcDMec
Quote from: relm1 on September 28, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
Sorry mate, I missed your post! Here is one of my more ominous cues with a wonderful oudist (?).
https://clyp.it/1pexac0k
That was beautiful! Very haunting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Q2S5b7cVk
Ifukube was known mainly as film composer.However here he choose "arabic" subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlooqVm72qc
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 05, 2020, 04:53:05 PM
A westernized piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1u5VP884GU
Yes, it is based on western scales. The music sounds very good though. The composition is well-built and atmospheric. I imagine the composer is conducting the piece.
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 08, 2020, 04:27:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Q2S5b7cVk
Very good and colorful composition. I like the vocal, chorus and rhythm. The entire music is sumptuous.
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 11, 2020, 09:53:23 AM
Ifukube was known mainly as film composer.However here he choose "arabic" subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlooqVm72qc
I know Ifukube's works a little bit but not this work. It is a memorable, nice composition. Still it sounds like a movie music, ha ha.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 12, 2020, 07:54:18 AM
I know Ifukube's works a little bit but not this work. It is a memorable, nice composition. Still it sounds like a movie music, ha ha.
Indeed, very nice. Ifukube is mainly known as the composer of the music for many Godzilla films.
Quote from: André on October 12, 2020, 11:58:02 AM
Indeed, very nice. Ifukube is mainly known as the composer of the music for many Godzilla films.
Yes, he made some good music for Godzilla. Godzilla was anti-thsesis, and/or implicit criticism, to the post-WW2 industrialization and economic recovery in Japan.
Ney and orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjTIabgOr0E&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3x78r4o9sJ7nHGC7Fm06dkzrnDVD99_DjF4ZwH2l7jLDsW7HSaZBB5WLc
It's the 10 year anniversary of the premiere of my Arabian themed concert piece, "Ancient Dreams"! I learned so much through the experience of composing and performing in this performance. It was an 18 minute tone poem for orchestra. The recording of the concert premiere was if I recall just stereo microphones with a high end preamp. I also recall that I had microphones at the back of the hall which I mixed in for reverb because the acoustics were nice.
Here is an except:
https://clyp.it/atz2sy3i
Some things I learned:
1. If you perform in the premiere of your own composition, you might want to make your part easier to play because you are extremely distracted on everyone else's parts/mistakes and end up screwing up the very part you wrote for you!
2. It's not as bad as you remember it was.
3. I would do it very differently today but it's not worth changing it. It's part of your record.
4. Be very careful of the dynamics you give to the glockenspiel. They smashed the hell out of the part and were constantly way too loud resulting in me always under playing them afterwords. I HATE how loud they played!
5. It's very important to understand the words of John Adams who said in his blog "Do not be surprised if at the first rehearsal of your music you don't recognize the work as being your own piece". Very, very true. A composer needs to have an out of body experience for the first few rehearsals because it sounds nothing like what you spent the past year writing! Eventually it will surprise you and coalesce. With a great orchestra, it will surprise you! You'll hear things you never imagined!
Quote from: relm1 on October 12, 2020, 04:32:23 PM
It's the 10 year anniversary of the premiere of my Arabian themed concert piece, "Ancient Dreams"! I learned so much through the experience of composing and performing in this performance. It was an 18 minute tone poem for orchestra. The recording of the concert premiere was if I recall just stereo microphones with a high end preamp. I also recall that I had microphones at the back of the hall which I mixed in for reverb because the acoustics were nice.
Here is an except:
https://clyp.it/atz2sy3i
Some things I learned:
1. If you perform in the premiere of your own composition, you might want to make your part easier to play because you are extremely distracted on everyone else's parts/mistakes and end up screwing up the very part you wrote for you!
2. It's not as bad as you remember it was.
3. I would do it very differently today but it's not worth changing it. It's part of your record.
4. Be very careful of the dynamics you give to the glockenspiel. They smashed the hell out of the part and were constantly way too loud resulting in me always under playing them afterwords. I HATE how loud they played!
5. It's very important to understand the words of John Adams who said in his blog "Do not be surprised if at the first rehearsal of your music you don't recognize the work as being your own piece". Very, very true. A composer needs to have an out of body experience for the first few rehearsals because it sounds nothing like what you spent the past year writing! Eventually it will surprise you and coalesce. With a great orchestra, it will surprise you! You'll hear things you never imagined!
The composition sounds very good and the orchestration sounds sophisticated and totally professional. :) The chromatic passages sound cool. I think I understand the point 5).
Abu Simbel symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXy9crK_j4
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 12, 2020, 04:24:42 PM
Ney and orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjTIabgOr0E&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3x78r4o9sJ7nHGC7Fm06dkzrnDVD99_DjF4ZwH2l7jLDsW7HSaZBB5WLc
Is the flute called Ney? It has a warm, attractive sound. Except for the flute part, the composition is largely based on western harmony and scale. This is a good hybrid of Arabic theme and European harmony. Atmospheric.
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 15, 2020, 06:18:50 PM
Abu Simbel symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXy9crK_j4
I think this is a solid composition. I will look for a disc if it is available. The structure is organized and effective, and the melodies are penetrating beyond mannerism. Great composition and excellent orchestration.
Check out the first time King Tut's war trumpet's were played in 1939. World War 2 started immediately after!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO3P5jkQmgU
Arab/Jew orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GixIhuz7p40
Quote from: relm1 on October 16, 2020, 04:28:11 PM
Check out the first time King Tut's war trumpet's were played in 1939. World War 2 started immediately after!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO3P5jkQmgU
They sound very good. I can't believer they are more than 3000 yo. Hope nobody play them anymore.
Suleyman Elesgerov (aka. Suleiman Aleskerov). Wonderful composer from Azerbaijan.
https://youtu.be/m7UHwjHenhA
https://youtu.be/ucbQX3Jl1ZY
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 18, 2020, 04:38:53 PM
Arab/Jew orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GixIhuz7p40
Sounds very good! The music is very Arabic, rather than (European) Jewish. The sliding technique of violin is very effective. That makes me wonder if there is any violin concerto in Western music requiring a slide technique. The flute sounds excellent as well. I was wondering if it was an Arabic flute or not.
Kuwait orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf37wbNmPU0
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 21, 2020, 07:32:15 PM
Kuwait orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf37wbNmPU0
Sounds very good! The music is a good mixture of Jazz, classic music and Arabic music. Somehow, I hear even indication of Tango music. I maybe wrong of course. Very colorful music!
Wind of Yemen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U__dK3MIj3s
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 23, 2020, 04:58:40 PM
Sounds very good! The music is a good mixture of Jazz, classic music and Arabic music. Somehow, I hear even indication of Tango music. I maybe wrong of course. Very colorful music!
+1
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 24, 2020, 05:43:49 PM
Wind of Yemen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U__dK3MIj3s
Fine and delicate composition. The music is aesthetically ethereal and phantom-like. These Singapore guys can play!
Arabian Dances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSQfmC-BWI
Overture El Horeya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmARs_CK4Bk
Gamel Salama i found nothing on him
Quote from: Roy Bland on November 24, 2020, 08:38:50 PM
Overture El Horeya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmARs_CK4Bk
Gamel Salama i found nothing on him
The music is gorgeous and sublime. Sounds very good.
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 27, 2020, 05:23:07 PM
Arabian Dances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSQfmC-BWI
I think this is a solid composition. I like the way music proceeds as well. I would like to listen to the music in live.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVBT9soS5dA
Quote from: Roy Bland on November 27, 2020, 03:44:26 PM
?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVBT9soS5dA
I think this is a solid composition. Vivid and refined music with great chorus. The intro with percussion is a little too long for me. Too bad the recording sound is rough. Still it is great music.
Ammar El-Sharai was an egyptian composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKZK8Rqguoc
Vasif Adigezalov, "Skerso" (concerto with Kamancha and Tar).
https://youtu.be/tsPgAzTUrcs
Quote from: Roy Bland on December 05, 2020, 05:49:11 PM
Ammar El-Sharai was an egyptian composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKZK8Rqguoc
Interesting composition. Sounds like Debussy's Reverie just a little.
from Royal Oman Symphony Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBywUBp7pS8
With permission of Brett Kavanaugh I would like to reflect on music Orientalism in general
https://www.academia.edu/31245971/Dialogues_of_Cultures_French_Musical_Orientalism_in_Russia_Artistic_Truth_and_Russian_Musical_Identity
a piece by Nuri Iskandar with arab and jewish theme on peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xntggm-8xYo&t=92s
Quote from: Roy Bland on May 03, 2022, 05:55:31 PM
With permission of Brett Kavanaugh I would like to reflect on music Orientalism in general
https://www.academia.edu/31245971/Dialogues_of_Cultures_French_Musical_Orientalism_in_Russia_Artistic_Truth_and_Russian_Musical_Identity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xntggm-8xYo&t=92s
Roy, thank you for the post. I was thinking about re-watching the videos on this thread. I will read the article this weekend. Grazie!
I like this album.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 03, 2022, 06:51:51 PM
Roy, thank you for the post. I was thinking about re-watching the videos on this thread. I will read the article this weekend. Grazie!
I am delighted from your appreciation ,obviously i don't want to limit myself to Russia and France as above
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https://www.academia.edu/28945629/Music_and_Orientalism_in_the_British_Empire_1780s_to_1940s_Portrayal_of_the_East
Composer from Kuwait (Film music?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68qjLwOrirA
Quote from: Roy Bland on May 20, 2022, 06:46:43 PM
Composer from Kuwait (Film music?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68qjLwOrirA
Nice music, Roy. The music is on popular/folk side a little.
Btw, I am a big fan of Ferit Tüzün now! ;D
Petra Symphonic poem by Sukkarieh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShtBw-Q0coM
on composer
http://www.composers21.com/compdocs/sukkariehh.htm
an egyptian comment on modern Mugam
Quote from: Roy Bland on May 24, 2022, 06:53:46 PM
Petra Symphonic poem by Sukkarieh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShtBw-Q0coM
on composer
http://www.composers21.com/compdocs/sukkariehh.htm
an egyptian comment on modern Mugam
Thank you Roy! I will check the video.
I like this album nowadays.
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IMHO it's a great initiative for the friendship of peoples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpU7HFw9k08
Quote from: Roy Bland on May 26, 2022, 06:03:24 PM
I don't know if he is Shagel Al Khatter yemen composer,however IMHO it's a great initiative for the friendship of peoples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpU7HFw9k08
The music sounds like J.S. Bach Passacaglia & Fugue in C minor, BWV 582 !
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 26, 2022, 07:24:01 PM
The music sounds like J.S. Bach Passacaglia & Fugue in C minor, BWV 582 !
I have asked they said:
First work: Bach in the East - Zvi Avni
Second work: Mousse - Nizar Alkhat
A large percentage of Spanish classical music* and Flamenco uses that scale, it is probably in the majority of the pieces in those styles, I think. It is what gives that music it's characteristic sound. Also used in Ravel's Alborada del Gracioso.
*To clarify I mean Spanish classical music that sounds distinctly Spanish, which I think started happening around the time of Albéniz, who was among the first to use Spanish folk idioms in his music.
Quote from: atardecer on September 27, 2023, 05:55:48 AMA large percentage of Spanish classical music* and Flamenco uses that scale, it is probably in the majority of the pieces in those styles, I think. It is what gives that music it's characteristic sound. Also used in Ravel's Alborada del Gracioso.
*To clarify I mean Spanish classical music that sounds distinctly Spanish, which I think started happening around the time of Albéniz, who was among the first to use Spanish folk idioms in his music.
While Spanish music uses flattened 7, the Arabic music often sounds like using natural 7.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 27, 2023, 03:36:08 PMWhile Spanish music uses flattened 7, the Arabic music often sounds like using natural 7.
Both Flamenco and Arabic music use the Phrygian (mode 3) with a raised or lowered 3rd and 7th (with resulting aug 2nds in the melody).
Quote from: San Antone on September 27, 2023, 04:01:30 PMBoth Flamenco and Arabic music use the Phrygian (mode 3) with a raised or lowered 3rd and 7th (with resulting aug 2nds in the melody).
You mean lowered 2nd, not lowered 3rd? Not a big deal though.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 27, 2023, 03:36:08 PMWhile Spanish music uses flattened 7, the Arabic music often sounds like using natural 7.
I think the 7 is sometimes raised in both. The exotic sound in these scales comes from the step and a half leap. In the phrygian w/ raised third that comes between the 2nd and 3rd scale degree, in the harmonic minor it happens between the 6th and 7th scale degrees creating a similar sound. If you play phrygian with a raised 3rd and 7th, you get two of those exotic jumps in the same scale.
This said harmonic minor and phrygian with raised 3rd tend to sound similar because they contain the same notes. If you play the harmonic minor scale in A, it contains the same notes as phrygian w/ raised 3 in E (or phrygian dominant).
In reality I think composers are usually not too strict about staying within the confines of one particular scale in these kinds of works. You often get multiple modes appearing in the same work. For example the Ravel I mentioned uses both regular phrygian and phrygian w/ raised 3.
The phrygian w/ raised 3 and 7, Brett referred to in post #98 Rick Beato calls 'double harmonic major'. According to Rick it is the darkest sounding scale.
Quote from: Daverz on October 02, 2020, 12:55:41 AMPerhaps Joel Bons, Nomaden:
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https://bis.se/performers/queyras-jean-guihen/joel-bons-nomaden
Ugh, all the links are broken. Here it is on Youtube:
"Kazakh Khanate Diamond Sword"by Abulhair Zharaskan
Quote from: atardecer on September 27, 2023, 05:10:28 PMThe phrygian w/ raised 3 and 7, Brett referred to in post #98 Rick Beato calls 'double harmonic major'. According to Rick it is the darkest sounding scale.
Also called Byzantine, Arabic (Hijaz Kar), Gypsy major, Bhairav Raga,...
By the way, as a non-native English speaker I have never understood the
w/ abbreviation for
with. As if a four letter word was so long you needed to abbreviate it! Even
without isn't that long of a word. ::)
Maybe it's because my own language, Finnish, is an agglutinative language resulting often longer worlds expressing a lot of encoded meaning. For me words like
with and
without are relatively short and do not require abbreviation unless you have next to no space to write them out in full.
Attia Sharara was a very gifted violinist and composer egyptian
Sort of obvious, but gibbet me! :
IMHO impressive
more about him
https://the.akdn/en/how-we-work/our-agencies/aga-khan-trust-culture/akma/mohamad-osman
C Phrygian dominant: C D♭ E F G A♭ B♭
C Byzantine/Double harmonic: C D♭ E F G A♭ B
The combination of these scales ( C D♭ E F G A♭ B♭ B )
has the same notes as the 8 note scale
F Algerian: F G A♭ B♭ B C D♭ E
If we instead combine C Phrygian dominant with
C Phrygian : C D♭ E♭ F G A♭ B♭,
we get
C Spanish Phrygian : C D♭ E♭ E F G A♭ B♭
This scale uses C major as the tonic chord and E♭ & E as melodic alternatives.
When using this scale, one has to avoid tonicizing the four chord Fm by giving
emphasis on the tonic chord C.
I think because Arabs already have their own "classical" music this is a difficult question to answer as Arabic composers would likely default to their own tradition.
I recently discovered an Egyptian composer who seemed to have an amazing melodic gift, one of those composers who just have the ability to come up with melodies that get stuck into your brain and never leave:
However he was also a master of the oud and as expected this is where most of his "serious" work is to be found, much like many other Arabic composers.
This arragenment of one of his songs as an instrumental piece with an oud improvisation in the middle is likely my favored thing of his i found on youtube:
Brief summary
https://pressbooks.cuny.edu/apiza/chapter/chapter-3-the-music-of-the-arab-world/
web composer page
https://www.gamal-abdelrahim.com/
Quote from: Roy Bland on December 03, 2023, 07:33:24 AMBrief summary
https://pressbooks.cuny.edu/apiza/chapter/chapter-3-the-music-of-the-arab-world/
My go to reference is The Music of Islam set by Celestial Harmonies, but now we are talking about actual Islamic music which i think is beyond the context of this thread.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 15, 2020, 06:34:01 AMAny good music/recording with Arabic, or Middle-eastern, theme/scale?
By the founder of topic it doesn't seems OT
Quote from: Roy Bland on December 04, 2023, 06:25:04 PMBy the founder of topic it doesn't seems OT
I modified the title.
Today
Concert of Iranian music "Musical Odyssey"
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Final concert of the Eastern Arts Festival "Dairafest"
At the "Musical Odyssey" concert, which concludes the VII International Festival of Oriental Arts DAIRAFEST, vocalists and instrumentalists from Iran, Turkey and Azerbaijan will perform together with St. Petersburg musicians.
Iranian music goes back many centuries to the pre-Islamic era of Persia. It is the Iranians who should be considered the founders of traditional Middle Eastern music with its system of modes and melodic movements. The concert will feature original works by Farshad Mohammadi, an ethnomusicologist, composer and santur player.
Santoor is an ancient instrument of Iranian origin, both stringed and percussion, the playing of which requires special skill. "Here the strings wove the atmosphere," wrote the poet Jalaluddin Rumi in the poem "Everything is Music," and indeed: in addition to the santoor, the Middle Eastern strings of kamancha, oud and saz also sound brightly in Mohammadi's ensemble. The rhythm is created by the def (tambourine) and tonbak (Persian drum in the shape of a goblet). All these instruments can rarely be heard accompanied by a symphony orchestra.
From the very beginning, the Iranian performing tradition has had a close connection between music and literature, and Persian poetry itself - both medieval and modern - is very musical. Mohammadi's works are based on poems by Rumi and Khayyam, as well as modern poets. The songs performed by Iranian vocalist Vahid Taj and Azerbaijani singer Nuray Hajizadeh are dedicated to travel, mysticism, nostalgia and love.
A team of virtuoso musicians from different countries, united by Farshad Mohammadi for the DAIRAFEST festival, will perform in St. Petersburg for the first time - and only once.
(https://m.buro247.ru/images/2023/12/1701442339824387.jpg)
Sicily was an Arab possession
and
for brass band Angelo Sormani died two years ago at 50
Quote from: Roy Bland on January 22, 2024, 07:27:05 PM
Omg, Sorbonne! Excellent music with some nice instruments. Wonderful!
Ney Concerto by Sidiq
http://www.composers21.com/compdocs/sidiqmu.htm
By a Danish composer using quarter-tone scales of the Middle East:
Sune KølsterString Quartet no. 1 (Opus 3)The composer writes: "
Inspired by my passion for microtonal maqamat, and dedicated to all Syrian refugees, and everybody else, who had to leave their homes because of war and tyranny."
it seems vaguely jazz sometimes
Written by: Youssef Halawa
Oud: A. Abdullah Al-Mulla
Bucharest Philharmonic Orchestra George Enescu
Conduct: Maestro Professor: Horia Andreescu
Jaber Al-Ahmad Cultural Center