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Title: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Dungeon Master on September 06, 2019, 07:27:20 PM
As a measure to safeguard the forum against bots and SPAM, I have installed a mod called Anti-SPAM by CLeantalk. This is a highly-respected anti-spam facility that filters out new users and spam posts by existing users. It uses a large variety of checks, including keywords and IP address databases.

No anti-SPAM system has 100% accuracy, so if you find you are having trouble posting, please let me know below.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Ken B on September 06, 2019, 08:05:11 PM
As a measure to safeguard the forum against bots and SPAM, I have installed a mod called Anti-SPAM by CLeantalk. This is a highly-respected anti-spam facility that filters out new users and spam posts by existing users. It uses a large variety of checks, including keywords and IP address databases.

No anti-SPAM system has 100% accuracy, so if you find you are having trouble posting, please let me know below.
I for one will miss Andrei's posts.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 07, 2019, 09:11:31 AM
Thanks, Rob!
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Brewski on September 07, 2019, 09:46:26 AM
Thanks so much, Rob! Couldn't log on earlier, but now running fine again. (Still see 30+ pages of "guests," presumably of the non-human variety, but it appears their efforts have been stymied.)

--Bruce
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Christo on September 07, 2019, 01:50:51 PM
I for one will miss Andrei's posts.
??? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Brian on September 07, 2019, 02:16:51 PM
Agree, the forum is running much more cleanly now - I guess we were getting spammed to oblivion. Thanks Rob!
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: 71 dB on September 07, 2019, 03:35:52 PM
??? Am I missing something?

Yes, sense of humor.  0:)
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 07, 2019, 04:07:22 PM
Yes, sense of humor.  0:)

;D ;D

8)
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Christo on September 08, 2019, 06:40:15 AM
If the bots can only be satisfied by sacrifying Andrei, I agree we must be prepared to bring that sacrifice.  ;D
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Cato on September 08, 2019, 06:48:11 AM
Sorry!  For me it is back to error messages and taking 3-5 minutes to load a page!
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Ken B on September 08, 2019, 09:14:21 AM
Sorry!  For me it is back to error messages and taking 3-5 minutes to load a page!
It has been slow for me for a day. Okay now but very slow the past 24 hours.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 08, 2019, 09:47:03 AM
Yes, sense of humor.  0:)

Be fair: your sense of humor is dormant unless you aren't the butt.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: 71 dB on September 08, 2019, 10:17:27 AM
Be fair: your sense of humor is dormant unless you aren't the butt.

Better understanding of US politics has taxed my sense of humor...  :-X
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: JBS on September 08, 2019, 10:45:08 AM
Better understanding of US politics has taxed my sense of humor...  :-X

But only Republicans complain about too much taxes!

 >:D :laugh:
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Que on September 08, 2019, 01:02:11 PM
Better understanding of US politics has taxed my sense of humor...  :-X

Now, there a thought ..... perhaps Rob's new contraption could automatically weed out any post on Trump?   :D

Q
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Madiel on September 08, 2019, 01:37:59 PM
I got a 403 access forbidden error last night while trying to quote and reply to a post. This was a curious new development.

The only notable things about the post were that it quoted a previous post and it had italics in it. I don't know whether that or something else triggered the anti-spam software?
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Madiel on September 08, 2019, 01:59:35 PM
Also, I note that my Firefox browser comes up with 2 little logos on every page.

One is "tracking attempts blocked", which suggests that the anti-spam is doing something here. I don't know what Firefox is trying to "track" but I certainly haven't changed any of the default settings, which suggests that if my Firefox browser is trying to "track" something, so is everyone else's Firefox browser.

The other thing is note that parts of the page aren't secure, such as images. This is probably unavoidable and probably also not new. It's the tracking bit that I'm pretty sure is new.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: J.A.W. on September 08, 2019, 03:36:07 PM
Also, I note that my Firefox browser comes up with 2 little logos on every page.

One is "tracking attempts blocked", which suggests that the anti-spam is doing something here. I don't know what Firefox is trying to "track" but I certainly haven't changed any of the default settings, which suggests that if my Firefox browser is trying to "track" something, so is everyone else's Firefox browser.

The other thing is note that parts of the page aren't secure, such as images. This is probably unavoidable and probably also not new. It's the tracking bit that I'm pretty sure is new.

I usually use MS Edge, but tried this page on Firefox (version 69) and got the same "Tracking attempts blocked" logo. No logo on Edge or Chrome.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: JBS on September 08, 2019, 03:51:46 PM
I got a 403 access forbidden error last night while trying to quote and reply to a post. This was a curious new development.

The only notable things about the post were that it quoted a previous post and it had italics in it. I don't know whether that or something else triggered the anti-spam software?

Experiment...I'm quoting a post with italics in it.

Edit...no problem posting. I can say that pages are loading slowly this evening (US East Coast time), but were loading very quickly a few hours ago.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Ken B on September 08, 2019, 04:56:16 PM
Now, there a thought ..... perhaps Rob's new contraption could automatically weed out any post on Trump?   :D

Q

You know, it’s a puzzle why a classical chat group would get a bot army riled up. But there really are a lot of Trump posts. I wonder now that you mention it if that caught the attention of some bot that then decided this was a political site.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Madiel on September 08, 2019, 04:59:40 PM
You know, it’s a puzzle why a classical chat group would get a bot army riled up. But there really are a lot of Trump posts. I wonder now that you mention it if that caught the attention of some bot that then decided this was a political site.

This is indeed a very possible explanation. The political threads are amongst the most active ones (though it's been several years worth of activity).

The site loading times are continuing to be highly variable.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Ken B on September 08, 2019, 05:04:42 PM
This is indeed a very possible explanation. The political threads are amongst the most active ones (though it's been several years worth of activity).

The site loading times are continuing to be highly variable.

And now, coincidentally?, the bojo posts.

Not to mention the thread about hot, sweating, naked Finns.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Madiel on September 08, 2019, 05:07:24 PM
And now, coincidentally?, the bojo posts.

Not to mention the thread about hot, sweating, naked Finns.

Clearly these are parts of the forum I have not yet delved into...
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: (: premont :) on September 09, 2019, 05:29:42 AM
The site is - rarely - fast, but most often very very slow, and sometimes even inaccessible.

I find it suspicious, that a large part of the visitors exerts unknown action. This hasn't been the case before we got these problems.

Wonder if it might tell anything to deny visitors access - at least temporarily - and see if this might solve the problems.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: pjme on September 09, 2019, 05:39:45 AM
The sun does shine in Belgium, but alas, it still takes (often) a very long time before a page loads.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Cato on September 09, 2019, 06:41:29 AM
Well, it took several minutes for this page to load.

This morning a message to a member was lost and a sign came up with "You Do Not Have Authorization To Access This Page," when I tried to send it.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 09, 2019, 08:58:44 AM
A Cato sighting!
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Ken B on September 09, 2019, 09:41:44 AM
Today it’s a slow as a Clevelander getting a blonde joke.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Cato on September 09, 2019, 09:43:01 AM
A Cato sighting!

 8)  Yes, I made it through the ether and am still conscious!   0:)
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: André on September 09, 2019, 10:42:33 AM
For the last few days I got access around 2-3 pm, not before. That’s 6-7 pm GMT time.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 09, 2019, 12:09:14 PM
But only Republicans complain about too much taxes!

 >:D :laugh:

(* chortle *)
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Sergeant Rock on September 09, 2019, 12:14:22 PM
Today it’s a slow as a Clevelander getting a blonde joke.

My first wife was blonde....I don't understand  ;D

Sarge
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Ken B on September 09, 2019, 07:46:47 PM
My first wife was blonde....I don't understand  ;D

Sarge

I was in a bar and asked the bartender if he wanted to hear a blonde joke. The room fell hushed.
“Well” said the bartender “Our bouncer Pete is blonde. Jenny at the end of the bar teaches karate, and she's a blonde. Ed by the pool table is a professional boxer and he's blond. I have a baseball bat and I'm blond. You sure you want to tell that joke?”
“Not if I have to explain it four times” I said.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: pjme on September 09, 2019, 11:23:24 PM

This morning GMG is very, very slow again.


https://www.youtube.com/v/gAdTsAKvVTU


Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 10, 2019, 09:05:06 AM
I was in a bar and asked the bartender if he wanted to hear a blonde joke. The room fell hushed.
“Well” said the bartender “Our bouncer Pete is blonde. Jenny at the end of the bar teaches karate, and she's a blonde. Ed by the pool table is a professional boxer and he's blond. I have a baseball bat and I'm blond. You sure you want to tell that joke?”
“Not if I have to explain it four times” I said.

Borrowing this...
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: André on September 10, 2019, 09:10:58 AM
Terribly bad since yesterday evening. After posting around 9pm I tried to modify my post for a correction, to no avail. Shut out until just a few minutes ago, past 2pm the following day.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: pjme on September 10, 2019, 09:30:05 AM
20.00 and suddenly the site springs to life...

So, all day : very slow and/or impossible to load the startpage. Untill now....but for how long?

Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: greg on September 10, 2019, 09:31:27 AM
If this works then Aug 14 may be the permanent record for most online ever.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Ken B on September 10, 2019, 09:43:05 AM
Slower than Celi conducting Feldman.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: SymphonicAddict on September 10, 2019, 11:07:23 AM
Slower than Celi conducting Feldman.

 :laugh:

Right now it's faster than N. Järvi conducting something like Dvorák's Carnival Overture.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: "Harry" on September 10, 2019, 11:23:12 AM
Well most of the day I cannot get on, or with extreme difficulty, posting takes ages and is often rejected. Images load slowlyyyyyyyyy.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 10, 2019, 11:55:55 AM
Slower than Celi conducting Feldman.

For blondes in Cleveland.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Ken B on September 10, 2019, 12:18:08 PM
For blondes in Cleveland.
Always aim for intellectual leaders in town.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: pjme on September 11, 2019, 07:25:59 AM
Well most of the day I cannot get on, or with extreme difficulty, posting takes ages and is often rejected. Images load slowlyyyyyyyyy.

Exactly what happened today.

Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: vandermolen on September 11, 2019, 08:25:10 AM
This is the first time I've been able to access the site all day. 18:24 here in the UK.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Florestan on September 11, 2019, 08:32:51 AM
Works fine between 20:00 and 23:00 Romanian time (GMT+2). Outside this window it's completely inaccessible most of the time, or very slow.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Cato on September 11, 2019, 09:06:18 AM
As mentioned elsewhere, I have been blocked most of the day: it took 4 attempts to send something to the "What Are Listening To?" topic.

I would say that the "Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk" is obviously worthless.  If the slowdowns and error messages are because of hackers, robots, etc., that program is not stopping them.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: The new erato on September 11, 2019, 09:07:59 AM
Works fine between 20:00 and 23:00 Romanian time (GMT+2). Outside this window it's completely inaccessible most of the time, or very slow.
Seem very similar here in Norway.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: j winter on September 11, 2019, 09:54:21 AM
Yeah, it's been quite a chore getting into the site the past few days.  I've been unable to log in since yesterday around the same time, almost 24 hours... :( 
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: (: premont :) on September 11, 2019, 10:27:00 AM
Seem very similar here in Norway.

And here in Denmark too.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: J.A.W. on September 11, 2019, 11:35:26 AM
And here in Denmark too.

...and in the Netherlnds. This is the first time today I can access the forum.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: Dungeon Master on September 11, 2019, 11:38:47 AM
See Bug Report thread.
Title: Re: Anti-SPAM by Cleantalk installed
Post by: dissily Mordentroge on November 30, 2019, 07:51:24 PM
You know, it’s a puzzle why a classical chat group would get a bot army riled up. But there really are a lot of Trump posts. I wonder now that you mention it if that caught the attention of some bot that then decided this was a political site.
Appears to have happened on other sites.