GMG Classical Music Forum

The Music Room => Composer Discussion => Topic started by: Sandra on May 22, 2011, 11:23:32 PM

Title: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: Sandra on May 22, 2011, 11:23:32 PM
Donald Martino  (1931-2005) 

I found out about this brilliant composer in 2005, the year he died. I think he was one of the more talented modernists of his time. I enjoy his Notturno - http://youtu.be/PXPQfe6bbQc

I'm usually not a big fan of the "Milton Babbitt crowd", but there are a few composers I can relate to.

YouTube doesn't have much of him, but his Pianississimo is there too - http://youtu.be/upbfsf_LjjA , hair-raisingly difficult to play but an interesting exploration of piano sounds.
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: karlhenning on May 23, 2011, 02:45:57 AM
Good point! I've hardly heard any Babbitt, really.
 
It's the Schoenberg syndrome, further aggravated . . . so few of those who wring their hands over the "awful music" have actually listened to any Schoenberg  ; )
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: snyprrr on May 23, 2011, 07:30:07 AM
Donald Martino  (1931-2005) 

I found out about this brilliant composer in 2005, the year he died. I think he was one of the more talented modernists of his time. I enjoy his Notturno - http://youtu.be/PXPQfe6bbQc

I'm usually not a big fan of the "Milton Babbitt crowd", but there are a few composers I can relate to.

YouTube doesn't have much of him, but his Pianississimo is there too - http://youtu.be/upbfsf_LjjA , hair-raisingly difficult to play but an interesting exploration of piano sounds.

Babes for Babbitt?? :o

How are you single? ??? :-*


oh,... right,... Martino.


Wouldn't he be more in the Sessions camp, really? I have enjoyed that Koch disc for years (meaning, I've played it four times), though  find the SQ (Julliard SQ) a bit more academically Beethovian (in a Sessions way (I also think there's a new Albany disc with a second SQ)). I'll give 'em a spin.


Try the Robert Hall Lewis disc on NewWorld. Martino's twin?
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: Sandra on May 24, 2011, 12:17:26 AM
Good point! I've hardly heard any Babbitt, really.
 
It's the Schoenberg syndrome, further aggravated . . . so few of those who wring their hands over the "awful music" have actually listened to any Schoenberg  ; )

I agree. For many people the moment Babbitt's name is mentioned, the association is always boring essays on modern music, radio interviews, talks, debates... anything except his music itself.

I'll start listening more, with an open mind. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: snyprrr on May 24, 2011, 04:32:02 AM
I agree. For many people the moment Babbitt's name is mentioned, the association is always boring essays on modern music, radio interviews, talks, debates... anything except his music itself.

I'll start listening more, with an open mind. Any recommendations?

I think MB's best music is in his SQs 3-4, and the Piano Music. His orchestral stuff is very noisy and ugly.
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: Sandra on May 25, 2011, 03:43:19 AM
Thanks! Haven't heard his SQs yet. I'll check them out.
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: klingsor on May 25, 2011, 04:18:07 AM
Milton Babbitt was a fine composer, and he also had interesting and AMUSING things to say about music.

I highly recommend this interview with Babbitt from the Internet Archive:

http://www.archive.org/details/SOM_1984_11_15 (http://www.archive.org/details/SOM_1984_11_15)

And I like Martino as well, though I have not heard much besides the Notturno
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: snyprrr on May 06, 2012, 10:42:45 AM
SOMEHOW I've come back around to that old Koch disc with Notturno, (now in my head) a lovely 12-tone piece, and I checked Amazon and thought I'd like to try the Piano Music. We have three main pieces under consideration: 12 Preludes, Pianississimo, and Fantacies & Interludes. There's a few different recordings. Does anyone have any reccomendations before I set upon the Amazon samples? ;D

Also interested in A Clarinet Set.
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: snyprrr on May 07, 2012, 05:35:19 PM
SOMEHOW I've come back around to that old Koch disc with Notturno, (now in my head) a lovely 12-tone piece, and I checked Amazon and thought I'd like to try the Piano Music. We have three main pieces under consideration: 12 Preludes, Pianississimo, and Fantacies & Interludes[/i]. There's a few different recordings. Does anyone have any reccomendations before I set upon the Amazon samples? ;D

anyone? :-*
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: snyprrr on May 08, 2012, 05:05:47 AM
Well, I went and checked as many samples as I could. Pianississimo and the F&I sounded nice, wasn't too interested in the Preludes.
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: snyprrr on December 17, 2015, 09:06:06 AM
bump?
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005)
Post by: The new erato on December 17, 2015, 12:23:18 PM
bump?
Nice to bump into you snyprrr!
Title: Re: Donald Martino (1931-2005) RECOMMEND TO EVERYONE
Post by: snyprrr on January 01, 2016, 10:14:23 AM
'Later Works'(Albany)

String Quartet No.5
Piano Trio
Clarinet Trio
Violin Sonata No.2

Just listened to the SQ, my, what a remarkably good piece. I had everything I wanted from DM, I was really struck by its way. Nothing outre, but he had lots of things, busy, Beethovinian... but verrry modern, sleek, like a sports car perhaps...very smooth yet not boring at all- masterfully put together...

closest I would say might be Wourinen's complexity...

looking forward to the rest


I look at it as the End of an Era- this is what it all ended with- Modern Composers going backwards juuust a little (even Xenakis and such)... all these guys nodded to the past just before they popped off, as if the High Modernism was just something to be assimilated, not an end to itself (you don't hear too many doing the Xenakis/Penderecki noise bleep/bloop from the 60s these days???)... eeeeverybody's conservative when they're 80....


I 'D RECOMMEND THIS ALBUM TO JUST ABOUT EVERYONE