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Title: Lassus' Library
Post by: snyprrr on November 25, 2014, 07:52:39 AM
Here's another name in "Great Holiday Music", Orlando di Lasso (1532-1597). All I have by him is Heulgas Ensemble disc of some awfully fine, sad sounding music that every should have... everyone? Maybe...
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 25, 2014, 07:57:58 AM
Listen up!

Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: snyprrr on November 26, 2014, 08:43:23 AM
Listen up!



that's an interesting title... is it a... err... 'Oratorio'?... or...

Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on November 26, 2014, 10:24:07 PM
Here's another name in "Great Holiday Music", Orlando di Lasso (1532-1597). All I have by him is Heulgas Ensemble disc of some awfully fine, sad sounding music that every should have... everyone? Maybe...

Yes, I started a thread on him and there were some suggestions which weren't bad (and some which were not so good.) Search it out. I remember really enjoying the Lagrime de San Pietro and the Penitential Psalms.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on November 26, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
Yes, I started a thread on him and there were some suggestions which weren't bad (and some which were not so good.) Search it out. I remember really enjoying the Lagrime de San Pietro and the Penitential Psalms.

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,21627.msg705883.html#msg705883

Or visit the Early Music Club (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,3732.0.html)

Q
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Cato on May 17, 2016, 03:30:25 AM
The May 17, 2016 Wall Street Journal has a curious article about Orlando di Lasso and Michael Jackson.  Apparently Germans in Munich (although some people would dispute whether anyone in Munich is actually German  ??? ;)  ) have been decorating a statue of Orlando di Lasso with pictures of Michael Jackson!  ??? ??? ???


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Munich: A statue of 16th-century composer Orlando di Lasso in this city’s center draws fans from around the globe. Music lovers come to light candles and leave pictures and other bits of memorabilia.

Di Lasso, a Flemish musician who spent much of his time in this city, was a giant in his day. “He was amazingly famous,” says Franz Körndle, a musicology professor at University of Augsburg and a di Lasso expert. “There’s not been anything like him in music history since.”

The fans swarming to his bronze likeness aren’t devotees. Many have no idea who he was, and don’t even notice he’s there.

They’re Michael Jackson aficionados. They flock to the site because it is in front of the Hotel Bayerischer Hof—a venue where the musician often stayed.

“This is the place where the spirit is, the magic,” says Nena Akhtar, head of fan group MJ’s Legacy, which in 2009 appropriated the pedestal of di Lasso’s statue as an impromptu Michael Jackson shrine to mourn his sudden death. “This place is so Michael-y.”

That Michael vibe is also a discordant reminder of fame’s vagaries. Di Lasso, who died in 1594, was also adored and feted in his day. Like Mr. Jackson, di Lasso traveled widely to perform. His compositions were printed and distributed across Europe in an era when printing was expensive and strictly local. His works were admired in centers of power and money. Four centuries later, di Lasso was largely forgotten...

See:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-jacksons-fame-rubs-off-on-forgotten-15th-century-composer-1463408997 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-jacksons-fame-rubs-off-on-forgotten-15th-century-composer-1463408997)
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 17, 2016, 03:45:13 AM
Di Lasso never moonwalked, though!
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2016, 04:24:49 AM
How much more obscure can you get?
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One measure of [Lasso's] obscurity: Sherlock Holmes, in a short story from 1908, is penning a monograph on di Lasso’s “Polyphonic Motets.” Dr. Watson notes it “is said by experts to be the last word upon the subject.”
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 17, 2016, 04:29:03 AM
Dr Watson's admiration for Mr Holmes is understandable, but "the last word" is surely premature  8)
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2016, 04:30:46 AM
Dr Watson's admiration for Mr Holmes is understandable, but "the last word" is surely premature  8)
You mustn't blame Dr Watson for that, though - he's only telling us what experts have said on the matter.  0:)
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 17, 2016, 04:31:19 AM
You mustn't blame Dr Watson for that, though - he's only telling us what experts have said on the matter.  0:)

Surgically done, dear fellow.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: snyprrr on August 01, 2017, 06:50:57 AM

Lassus is my favorite composer,

Well, that came out of nowhere, lol!!

Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 14, 2017, 02:06:43 AM
Aye.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: The new erato on August 14, 2017, 04:21:28 AM
I'm almost in tears listening to Penitential Psalm no 5 tonight, it's euphoric (like all Lassus) and sure can crush my heart into little pieces.

There is just something so special about Lassus, I haven't worked it out yet but there is something there  :-*
That is perhaps the single greatest piece of Renaissance music I know (notwithstanding my unlimited admiration for Josquin and Ockeghem), and I have known it since I bought Pro Cantione Antiqua's version under Bruno Turners direction on an Archiv LP ca 1975. Required listening.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: snyprrr on August 14, 2017, 08:22:50 AM
I'm almost in tears listening to Penitential Psalm no 5 tonight, it's euphoric (like all Lassus) and sure can crush my heart into little pieces.

There is just something so special about Lassus, I haven't worked it out yet but there is something there  :-*

No.5 itself is 40 minutes long? I'm only 12 minutes in, and,... mm?,... I've gotta go do yard work...


I like the St. Peter piece much better, but then, I do somewhat need instruments with most of my singing. This particular piece is not my cup of tea... it seems extraordinarily "white" and heavenly, I'll give ya that!! ;)
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on August 14, 2017, 08:51:11 AM
No.5 itself is 40 minutes long? I'm only 12 minutes in, and,... mm?,... I've gotta go do yard work...


I like the St. Peter piece much better, but then, I do somewhat need instruments with most of my singing. This particular piece is not my cup of tea... it seems extraordinarily "white" and heavenly, I'll give ya that!! ;)

If you look at the words there's a real shift from negative feelings to positive feelings after about a dozen lines. The problem is to find a performer who can make these words sound meaningful. There are also performance problems about making it all cohere rather than sound like a bitty rag bag. Herreweghe may well be the best we can do on record in these respects. I haven't heard Turner do this 5th psalm, but I have heard Henry's 8 and Hillier as well as Herreweghe.

As so often is the case for me, the problem is to find singers who are good at making the words sound as though they're meaningful.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on August 14, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
That is perhaps the single greatest piece of Renaissance music I know (notwithstanding my unlimited admiration for Josquin and Ockeghem), and I have known it since I bought Pro Cantione Antiqua's version under Bruno Turners direction on an Archiv LP ca 1975. Required listening.

I bought that original LP some time ago after reading about it here. Still haven't properly listened - will take this thread as a reminder to do so. I've always loved Pro Cantione Antiqua's approach to Renaissance music.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on August 14, 2017, 11:31:56 AM
Re Pro Cantione Antiqua's Lassus psalms, the first thing to say is that it's is magical.

I'd love to know more about how they developed their style, it sounds very much in the tradition of The Deller Consort to me: rapt, internal, prayerful. Vibrato. Oxbridge vowels.

London was such a meltingpot of ideas at the time: Deller, Turner, Morrow, Munrow, Philips, the Davies Brothers . . . They're all like legendary pioneers of early music.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: snyprrr on August 15, 2017, 07:27:06 AM
Definitely my favorite composer, that I am sure of  :-*

OK, I've got the St.Peter around here somewhere,... let's do this

Putting on Lassus is like:

1 Ooh, nice ethereal suspended note!
2 This polyphony is quite good!
3 This is quite massive!
4 I love the chromaticism!
5 I just forgot I was listening to music  ???
6 These clouds of notes are beyond words  :o
7 Is that a tear?  ???
8 I'm crying, I'm in euphoria
9 Time to get a change of career's, how about financing? becoming a monk?
10 I'm hungry, time to have a short rest
11 Ooh, nice ethereal suspended note!  :P

I'll be waiting at the entrance ;)

I'm sorry, I need snow on the ground to listen to choral music... or sooomething...(maybe I need specifically something that sounds minor key??)


anyhow, all the more power to ya ;)
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: North Star on September 22, 2017, 12:21:36 AM
Well Que, as there are still plenty Lassus CDs I don't have yet........name something you haven't seen me listening to yet? and I'll do it  8)
I'm not Q, but here's one..

Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on September 22, 2017, 05:48:30 AM
Well Que, as there are still plenty Lassus CDs I don't have yet........name something you haven't seen me listening to yet? and I'll do it  8)

I'm not sure what you already have.... better safe than sorry... :D

Herreweghe's other major Lassus recording besides the Penitential Psalms:


I would (almost) kill for it, and would seriously consider buying it used in good condition.... 8)

Moving on, assuming you already have Herreweghe's recordings of Lagrime di San Pietro and Hieremiae prophetae lamentationes....

The recording by the German ensemble Singer Pur, already recommended above by North Star is a "no brainer".....

Since Lassus was born in the Southern Netherlands - present day Belgium - as Roland de Lâtre, the Belgian label Musiques en Wallonie recently issued an awesome commemorative series of five volumes covering the musical life of Lassus. I urge you to consider getting that. They handpicked some of THE most prominent Early Music ensembles of today. The issues are not cheap, but that is made up for in excellent  recording quality, lavish presentation with elaborate notes and superb performances in well constituted programmes .
A word of warning: don't wait for prices to come down, they won't. These issues are printed in small numbers and will just quietly run OOP in 1-2 years.....

I love them all, but have particular soft spots for Singer Pur, Vox Luminis and the Egidius Kwartet.

Last but not least the slightly older performances by the German Orlando di Lasso Ensemble Hannover:



These performance are perhaps not as polished as some of the others, but make up for that in autheticity and integrity.

And there you go - all the Lassus recordings on my shelves that are worthy of a recommendation.
Enjoy!  :)

Q
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on September 22, 2017, 06:03:07 AM
The problem with Herreweghe, and despite the quality of what he does I think it's a real big problem, is that his choir's too big. I've been very very impressed by Hilliard's Lassus recently.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on September 22, 2017, 08:41:30 AM
The problem with Herreweghe, and despite the quality of what he does I think it's a real big problem, is that his choir's too big. I've been very very impressed by Hilliard's Lassus recently, some of it has been remastered very well.

Herreweghe's choral forces are bigger than they should be.

He nevertheless achieves epic Lassus performances that I would never be without.

Q
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on September 22, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
Herreweghe's choral forces are bigger than they should be.

He nevertheless achieves epic Lassus performances that I would never be without.

Q

I agree with you, totally.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on October 08, 2017, 12:44:40 AM
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What did you think? Still waiting for my copy to arrive.

Good day, North Star!

My question for Que as well.  ;)

Wondering about those "decay issues" that the amazon reviewer points to in his review.

Looks like a splendid release, though!

Well, gentlemen... One things is certain:  this small scale performance - single top voices, tenors and bases doubled, sound to-tally different from Herreweghe's choral oplulence...  :) It's early days, but it is a very appealing performance, intimate and very focused on the texts and moods.
And don't know what the Amazon reviewer had it mind (perhaps a full blown "cathedral" sound?), but on this recording made in the ancient St. Cyriak Church, Sulzburg,  Germany (http://) doesn’t lack sonic ambience:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Sulzburg_St_Cyriak_Innen.JPG/853px-Sulzburg_St_Cyriak_Innen.JPG)

If anything, I might have preferred a more direct/ closer recording to get more clarity...
With this 2nd disc my impression of the interpretation is starting to settle.
Those who are familiar with their Jacobus Vaet recordings know what to expect: intimate, individual, mellow interpretations. Ensemble singing is not sloppy by any standards , but definitely more "loose" or "laid back" than what is currently more common. The total ensemble sound is therefore not crystal clear.

I think this is a great set, with individual interpretation which makes the music very much "alive", but feel hesitation to declare this an ultimate winner....
They were a good match for Jacobus Vaet, but for Lassus ideally there is more intensity required, and more discipline and clarity. Technically I need things to run like clock clockwork.

Could, for instance, some of the kick-ass ensembles in the Musiques en Wallonie Lassus series take things up another notch (or two)?
I'm thinking of Ludus Modalis, Vox Luminis or Singer Pur. I think so...

Recommended all the same! :)

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=1035760

Q
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on October 08, 2017, 03:01:31 AM
This recording by Ekkehard Kiem is easily sampleable, the whole thing is there on Qobuz in fact, I think the reviewer was right to suggest that there's not much room ambience. I like the idea of an intimate approach,  I shall have to get to know this one better when I'm next in a Lassus mood.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: San Antone on October 08, 2017, 03:59:04 AM
Just released, but only as download   MDT has the CD and it is available on most streaming services:

(https://www.mdt.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/T/O/TOCC0404.jpg)

Orlande de LASSUS
Responsories for Holy Week

Responsories for Maundy Thursday
1–3 Second Nocturn
4–6 Third Nocturn
Responsories for Good Friday
7–9 Second Nocturn
10–12 Third Nocturn
Responsories for Holy Saturday
13–15 Second Nocturn
16–18 Third Nocturn

TT 54:14

Ars Cantica / Marco Berrini

• Orlande de Lassus (1530/32–94) was one of the most prolific composers in history: he wrote more than 70 Masses and 700 motets, around 300 madrigals and 100 Magnificats, as well as hymns, German Lieder, French chansons and Italian villanesche.

• Around 1580 Lassus composed a four-voice setting of the eighteen Responsories for the second and third Nocturns of Holy Week, probably intended for the services in the private chapel of his employer, Wilhelm V, Duke of Bavaria.

• In these miniature dramas Lassus skilfully supports the text, as was then required by the Council of Trent, illustrating the human tragedy of the Easter story with exquisite music all the more moving for its restraint.

• This is the first recording of the critical edition of the Responsories prepared by the late Peter Bergqvist, the internationally recognised authority on Lassus’ music.

Marco Berrini, one of the most active choral directors in Italy today, is professor of choral music at the Conservatorio Antonio Vivaldi in Alessandria, in Piedmont. He has worked throughout Italy, as well as in Austria, France, Germany, Israel, Portugal, Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates. He is the Artistic Director of the professional vocal ensemble Ars Cantica, which he founded in in 1988. Since then Ars Cantica has won numerous prizes in both national and international competitions and has participated in major national and international festivals.



A mid-size mixed ensemble, overall good sound and performance.  I am not sure how many other recordings there are for this music, but if you have not heard these works, they are some of Lasso's best, imo.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on October 13, 2017, 11:09:40 PM
Just released, but only as download   MDT has the CD and it is available on most streaming services:

A mid-size mixed ensemble, overall good sound and performance.  I am not sure how many other recordings there are for this music, but if you have not heard these works, they are some of Lasso's best, imo.

Thanks!  :) I'm  going to check it out.

It has also arrived at Amazon:


Q
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: deprofundis on February 01, 2020, 01:29:19 PM
Ladies of choice and taste great Mister of this world.

Deprofundis was just checking and stumble on two marveleous releases, you will like if you like Lasso aka Lassus aka Roland de Lassus thee name.

The Signum recording of Lamentation of prophet Jeremiah is awesome, epic and true to the composer name, I TOTALLY FLIP OUT, like it was better than my LP version of this work by Dessof choir no kidding.

But there more yes Sigmun had Lagrime di san Pietro another keeper. Oh I love Sigmun Records, there release so solid you will fall in love whit these work.

Than CPO I like my new Manfred Cordes Marian vespers a lots, but find my Lassus pslams sinfonikers a bit drab, but I will give it a chance I only heard it twice  and has 3 billion records Oh lord of lords.

I says Buy the Signum pearls of  a recordings, whit a blindfold on, do you trust thee boy, here Deprofundis know is Lassus he has zillion recordings he not counting anymore.

CPO get decent silver place for Lassus, I said decent silver, there are not bad Manfred Cordes is always awesome, my problem is the double CD on CPO and I try not too be too harsh.Have a good days purchase these marvel now , right now, rush to the store or order them now, do it now wow, magnifique grandiose un triomphe= in French
In English

Outstanding, breathtaking, mesmerized!!!

Please Lassus fanboys comment, this is huge, i mean this is huge, I'm so impress, you can take this impression I have for money in the bank, there that good.

Hail Lassus's greatness!!!

Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on February 02, 2020, 12:15:54 AM
Ah Orlando di Lasso: Lamentations of prophet Jeremiah + requiem on signum simply gorgeous voice very fluid , peerless rendition, astonishing beauty in motion, I'm blown away, carry away toward paradise for a moments visit seen what it look like, amen to this folks, angelic aftertaste, greatest rendition of Lassus I heard so far, and I know my stuff by now, my friend the greatest musicologist please bow to this, please be carried away by this album, it's a jowride, forsaken fun...tears of joy...

Lassus is on of the very greatest IMO!  :)

Looked into the recording you mentioned, I linked a (positive) review by Johan van Veen:



http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2013/Nov13/Lassus_SanPietro_SIGCD339.htm

Not familiar with the recording myself, or the ensemble. But I need to look in to it. :)
My current favourite is Herreweghe, though that's definitely not OVPP (one voice per part).

Q
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: vers la flamme on February 02, 2020, 05:07:11 AM
I have the Herreweghe and it's damn good, though I admit this music is all terra incognita for me.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on February 02, 2020, 11:20:50 AM
Here's the inimitable Peter Sellars on the Lassus' Lagrime, I saw his production last year and really enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/v/GM4oOvuElaA
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: deprofundis on February 02, 2020, 11:28:28 AM
I will have to check that out, thanks oh Mandryka, cher ami, vous avez du gout, Lassus le Fameux, Lassus l'incomparable, Lassus le divin!!!
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: deprofundis on February 13, 2020, 12:54:59 PM
I never ever being that impressed in my life, and I know what I'm talking about.

Lasso Lamentation of Jeremiah by Collegium Regale ensemble of Stephen Cleobury might be the best yet, deprofundis as heard them all, so I darn know my stuff, if I say it's that good, then it is!

Here my review real professional rendition, fluid & warm voices, not drab on contrary powerful & skilled, touching & moving, It will keep you riveting to you're chair, The Lamentations are supreme  and the requiem is a delight, you like Lasso or Lassus, you possibly can't go wrong whit this one, it's amazing, if I give my seal of approval on this one, I swear to god it's that great. I order this absolute gem, thinking in mind well I have this work  by so many how can it be this fabulous do I need more copy of it, the answer was yes.

This is a wonderful album, not to be miss out on, that is if you like quality Lassus, there are not flaws to this recording, only a fool or a noob would think else, trust me this album is not  a bronze or a silver medalist, it's true gold, do you need more, I say if you really like the composer buy it whit a blindfold on, you wont be deceived. It's that incredible, I ask fan of Lassus across the globe, musicologists, audiophile there opinion here , so is it the best you heard so far hmm?

 :P I drooled like a Pavlov dog for this release so far out mesmerizing.

Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: deprofundis on August 25, 2021, 03:49:47 PM
Greetings, I'm giving a third chance on this double album Orlando di Lasso Psalmms by die Singphoniker BR KLASSIK, CPO label.

First I would like to says the first time I heard and bought this, was deceived, but keep the records that is in CD media, I though perhaps a second listen will do it, was disapointed.

Than tonight, I deceided to give it another chance, sometime sacred music you have to be in the right mood yah know?

So now whit peace of mind, inner peace, calm all and all this is not so bad, perhaps not the best Lassus Psalms but decent, relaxing, introspective, quiet.

All I needed was patience, there you go, it's pleasant sorry Singphoniker, for bashing you're performance, this release is okay I guess, yet it'S not catchy so what?

Does music had to be love at first sight, nope, does music have to be catchy instant turn on, nope.

I ask GmG what do you think of this album if you heard it, it'S good before you go to bed, not that it'S somnolant and drab, to put you to sleep, no I did not said this, but it might help ya empty you're mind, relief turmoil?

 :)
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on August 28, 2021, 11:33:38 PM
Greetings, I'm giving a third chance on this double album Orlando di Lasso Psalmms by die Singphoniker BR KLASSIK, CPO label.

The Singphoniker aren't terrible but this is not their home turf, and you can tell.

For the iconic Penitential Psalms I have two recommendations. Herreweghe, with a choir that is way too big but the result is intoxicating. The other is the intimate not perfectly recorded performance - some lack of clarity - by the Dufay Ensemble, discussed above.

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Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: SonicMan46 on September 11, 2021, 03:03:42 PM
Orlando di Lassus (1532-1594) - St. Matthew Passion & Penitential Psalms w/ the first two shown below that I own - just pulled my half dozen or so recordings for this influential Renaissance composer (short bio below - much more on the link) - will post more later - BUT the first CD is quite good (see attached reviews) - the Penitential Psalms however seems to be a 'toss up' (again in the attachment) - over the last two days I listened to my Hyperion Dyad w/ the Henry's Eight and also the Herreweghe recording off Spotify - not sure which one I enjoyed the most?  I know that the latter has gotten 'thumbs up' for the 'best recording' but just wondering what the thoughts may now be - does not seem to be any new options?  Dave :)

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Orlando di Lassus (also other names) was a composer of the late Renaissance, chief representative of the mature polyphonic style of the Franco-Flemish school, and considered to be one of the three most famous and influential musicians in Europe at the end of the 16th century (the other two being Palestrina and Victoria). (Source) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlande_de_Lassus)

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Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on September 12, 2021, 12:45:42 AM
Orlando di Lassus (1532-1594) - St. Matthew Passion & Penitential Psalms w/ the first two shown below that I own - just pulled my half dozen or so recordings for this influential Renaissance composer (short bio below - much more on the link) - will post more later - BUT the first CD is quite good (see attached reviews) - the Penitential Psalms however seems to be a 'toss up' (again in the attachment) - over the last two days I listened to my Hyperion Dyad w/ the Henry's Eight and also the Herreweghe recording off Spotify - not sure which one I enjoyed the most?  I know that the latter has gotten 'thumbs up' for the 'best recording' but just wondering what the thoughts may now be - does not seem to be any new options?  Dave :)

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Hi Dave, one more to try for the Penitential Psalms would be the Dufay Ensemble - see previous post on this thread!  :) :)

Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on September 12, 2021, 06:06:52 AM
Orlando di Lassus (1532-1594) - St. Matthew Passion & Penitential Psalms w/ the first two shown below that I own - just pulled my half dozen or so recordings for this influential Renaissance composer (short bio below - much more on the link) - will post more later - BUT the first CD is quite good (see attached reviews) - the Penitential Psalms however seems to be a 'toss up' (again in the attachment) - over the last two days I listened to my Hyperion Dyad w/ the Henry's Eight and also the Herreweghe recording off Spotify - not sure which one I enjoyed the most?  I know that the latter has gotten 'thumbs up' for the 'best recording' but just wondering what the thoughts may now be - does not seem to be any new options?  Dave :)

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This

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You should also check Hilliard of course, even if you ultimately reject it.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: SonicMan46 on September 12, 2021, 07:14:32 AM
This

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You should also check Hilliard of course, even if you ultimately reject it.

Thanks Mandryka for the recommendation above, and a recent recording (2019) which seems rare to see these days w/ 'Early Music' - I replaced the Hilliard w/ Henry's Eight, like the sound of both but the latter had the 'Laudate Psalms' which the 'Die Singphoniker' group also does - the recording is on Spotify so I'll do a listen and compare one or two of the psalms.  Dave :)

Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: SonicMan46 on September 12, 2021, 07:43:12 AM
Orlando di Lassus (1532-1594) - not much in my collection, i.e. the two shown previously and the 4 recordings before - not much at all considering his fame and output, outlined in the summary bio below (much more at the link).  About done listening to these recordings which are all quite good to my ears - BUT, if others are worth a listen, please suggest; also there is likely much more I could add w/ a composer this prolific but space is always an issue, i.e. a couple of additions maybe?  8)  Dave

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Orlando de Lassus (also Orlando di Lasso, Orlandus Lassus, et al) was a composer of the late Renaissance, chief representative of the mature polyphonic style of the Franco-Flemish school, and considered to be one of the three most famous and influential musicians in Europe at the end of the 16th century. One of the most prolific, versatile, and universal composers of the late Renaissance, Lassus wrote over 2,000 works in all Latin, French, Italian and German vocal genres. These include 530 motets, over 400 Italian madrigals/French chansons/90 German lieder, 60 or so masses, 4 passions, penitential psalms; no instrumental music is known to exist and/or is lost. (Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlande_de_Lassus))

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Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on September 12, 2021, 08:06:19 AM
Orlando di Lassus (1532-1594) - not much in my collection, i.e. the two shown previously and the 4 recordings before - not much at all considering his fame and output, outlined in the summary bio below (much more at the link).  About done listening to these recordings which are all quite good to my ears - BUT, if others are worth a listen, please suggest; also there is likely much more I could add w/ a composer this prolific but space is always an issue, i.e. a couple of additions maybe?  8)  Dave

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This

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Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: SonicMan46 on September 12, 2021, 09:13:58 AM
This

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Well, the Sibylla recording is expensive at PrestoMusic & JPC, and not found on Amazon USA, BUT at BRO the CD inserted above w/ Prophetiae Sibyllarum, plus only Lassus fillers to 74+ mins is just $9 USD - found 3 excellent reviews attached; I'd like that 'work' so will put the CD in my BRO cart; usually need 4-5 to justify the inexpensive shipping there - some more looking!  Thanks again for your help.  Dave :)
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Mandryka on September 12, 2021, 10:12:31 AM
Well, the Sibylla recording is expensive at PrestoMusic & JPC, and not found on Amazon USA, BUT at BRO the CD inserted above w/ Prophetiae Sibyllarum, plus only Lassus fillers to 74+ mins is just $9 USD - found 3 excellent reviews attached; I'd like that 'work' so will put the CD in my BRO cart; usually need 4-5 to justify the inexpensive shipping there - some more looking!  Thanks again for your help.  Dave :)


Also Hilliard to think about, if you like Covey-Crump.
Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: Que on September 12, 2021, 11:31:28 PM
Well, the Sibylla recording is expensive at PrestoMusic & JPC, and not found on Amazon USA, BUT at BRO the CD inserted above w/ Prophetiae Sibyllarum, plus only Lassus fillers to 74+ mins is just $9 USD - found 3 excellent reviews attached; I'd like that 'work' so will put the CD in my BRO cart; usually need 4-5 to justify the inexpensive shipping there - some more looking!  Thanks again for your help.  Dave :)

In my comparison of available Prophetiae Sibyllarum recordings this came up as my clear favourite:

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Title: Re: Lassus' Library
Post by: SonicMan46 on September 13, 2021, 06:36:28 AM
In my comparison of available Prophetiae Sibyllarum recordings this came up as my clear favourite:

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Thanks Mandryka & Que for suggestions on a version of Prophetiae Sibyllarum - first, I wanted an 'all-Lassus' disc and had placed 'The Brabant Ensemble' in my BRO basket @ $9, but had not added much more to justify mailing costs; so, I just finished looking at the reviews (attached) on Que's recommendation; Gio from Amazon (one of the few people I respect there) also states it's the best recording available of this work - I just received some Amazon credit and used enough to get 'half off' - placed the order on Amazon, and should arrive by the weekend.  Dave :)