The game is simple: identify the composers who will appear in the next five posts.
No. 1
No. 2
No. 3
No. 4
No. 5
1. beethoven
2. schubert
3. liszt
first reactions
1 Beethoven.
2 Schubert
3 Liszt
4 Ligeti
5 weird....
Quote from: lukeottevanger on August 31, 2007, 03:44:56 PM
first reactions
1 Beethoven.
2 Schubert
3 Liszt
4 Ligeti
5 weird....
5 Wagner
Well, the first four have been correctly identified. I'll admit No. 5 is a little trickier. ;)
#5 appears to be Margaret Thatcher!
If not Wagner then, Emil von Sauer?
#5 = Samuel Coleridge-Taylor or Amy Beach?
Didn't Amy Beach have a beard?
If you look closely, you can see a beard in the portrait ......... >:D
Ha! Then the mystery is solved! 8)
No. 5 remains a mystery. I'll give you a few more hours, then a clue. ;)
It looks like the genetically engineered offspring of Copland and Schoenberg to me....
I know I've seen that portrait before... I feel perhaps in one of my college textbooks. So far I am drawing a blank, though.
Is 5 Mendelssohn?
Quote from: Corey on September 01, 2007, 06:28:06 AM
Is 5 Mendelssohn?
Nope. I'll give you a clue: he's Italian, and his first name begins with 'D'.
I have no clue. the only thing I can remotely think of is Alberti.
Guillaume Dufay?
oops You said first name, not last. My bad.
Scarlatti?
Time for more clues, I guess.
The composer whose portrait is No. 5 was a child prodigy, the majority of his works are for piano, and the first version of his largest and best known solo piano work (which lasts about half an hour) was published in 1910.
Quote from: Mark on September 01, 2007, 10:43:07 AM
Time for more clues, I guess.
The composer whose portrait is No. 5 was a child prodigy, the majority of his works are for piano, and the first version of his largest and best known solo piano work (which lasts about half an hour) was published in 1910.
Busoni
Quote from: Mark on September 01, 2007, 10:43:07 AM
was a child prodigy,
BTW, wasn't EVERY "great" composer a child prodigy? (except for Elgar)
That Busoni was one ugly dude... ;D
(http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3194.0;attach=3909;image)
Quote from: D Minor on September 01, 2007, 11:04:27 AM
BTW, wasn't EVERY "great" composer a child prodigy? (except for Elgar)
Berlioz is the only notable one I can think of - he couldn't even play the piano well.
Quote from: Szykniej on September 01, 2007, 09:03:16 AM
Guillaume Dufay?
:D Portraits from Dufay's time tended to look like this:
Yes, it was Busoni. Well done. ;D
Anyone else want to post a manipulated composer portrait to keep the game going?
I'd have siad Busoni based on your biographical clues, but Busoni's first name started with F, didn't it? [Answer - yes] I am confused. ???
It was a false lead. You know, to make things more interesting... >:D
Quote from: lukeottevanger on September 01, 2007, 11:53:23 AM
I'd have siad Busoni based on your biographical clues, but Busoni's first name started with F, didn't it? [Answer - yes] I am confused. ???
Dante Michelangelo Benvenuto Ferruccio Busoni
Quote from: lukeottevanger on September 01, 2007, 11:53:23 AM
I'd have siad Busoni based on your biographical clues, but Busoni's first name started with F, didn't it? [Answer - yes] I am confused. ???
No, it didn't. His full name was
Dante Michelangelo Benvenuto Ferruccio Busoni. Though I admit, I was trying to throw you off the trail with that. ;D
Is this the original portrait? It looks very, very different .........
(http://www.rodoni.ch/busoni/immagini/colori/Busoni1.jpg)
Quote from: Mark on September 01, 2007, 12:01:14 PM
No, it didn't. His full name was Dante Michelangelo Benvenuto Ferruccio Busoni. Though I admit, I was trying to throw you off the trail with that. ;D
Ah, I see you're taking the tired old conventional meaning of the word 'first'..... ;D
Quote from: D Minor on September 01, 2007, 12:03:02 PM
Is this the original portrait? It looks very, very different .........
(http://www.rodoni.ch/busoni/immagini/colori/Busoni1.jpg)
Yep.
Quote from: Lethe on September 01, 2007, 11:14:43 AM
Berlioz is the only notable one I can think of - he couldn't even play the piano well.
No, but he was supposedly very proficient with the Spanish guitar.
Quote from: Corey on September 01, 2007, 12:44:57 PM
No, but he was supposedly very proficient with the Spanish guitar.
Hrm... I had to trawl through the two David Cairns bios and the Mémoires a few weeks ago but don't recall much praising his playing skills (on a technical level) of anything - but I guess I skipped plenty of segments, and wasn't enjoying it as much as casually reading, as I was doing it to try to write a condensed biography...
Quote from: Lethe on September 01, 2007, 01:05:07 PM
Hrm... I had to trawl through the two David Cairns bios and the Mémoires a few weeks ago but don't recall much praising his playing skills (on a technical level) of anything - but I guess I skipped plenty of segments, and wasn't enjoying it as much as casually reading, as I was doing it to try to write a condensed biography...
Charles Rosen's
The Romantic Generation mentions it and an essay by Hindemith (I think) says he "mastered" the instrument.
Quote from: Corey on September 01, 2007, 02:06:43 PM
Charles Rosen's The Romantic Generation mentions it and an essay by Hindemith (I think) says he "mastered" the instrument.
Danke :)
Quote from: D Minor on September 01, 2007, 11:04:27 AM
BTW, wasn't EVERY "great" composer a child prodigy? (except for Elgar)
Er...nope. In the twentieth century I think it was the exception more than the rule.
Here's another two. Don't think they'll be too hard.
(http://file011b.bebo.com/3/large/2007/09/01/22/1725811520a5440703076l.jpg)
(http://file035b.bebo.com/12/large/2007/09/01/22/1725811520a5440766542l.jpg)
Shosty and Mahler
Quote from: greg on September 01, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
Shosty and Mahler
Wow, that was quick.
Your turn, then.
No disguising here - the composer in his full glory:
And I make no attempt to disguise these two, I just love this picture:
This one is also quite straightforward, I think
Finally, this one has done the rounds on this board a few times since I first used it as my avatar, so many of you know who this is; I include it for completeness' sake!
2 looks like Cage and Stockhausen.
4 is Schoenberg?
All three correct.
two more composers. Both of them are usually seen in photos when they were older.
Quote from: James on September 02, 2007, 05:58:44 AM
is the first photo Antheil...and the 3rd Webern..
The third is indeed Webern the mountaineer. The first isn't Antheil, but it was hardly a fair question, was it!! I might as well tell you that it is Ligeti - the micropolyphonist at his most micro.
Quote from: Guido on September 03, 2007, 02:57:46 AM
two more composers. Both of them are usually seen in photos when they were older.
2 is Ives.
1 is Barber.
Who he?
Please, no cheating on this one, just see if you can guess it as it is. I don't know how to do those fancy things Mark did.
(http://www.luxnova.com/comp/kph/images/karl02.jpg)
Karl Henning?
Quote from: Mark on September 03, 2007, 07:34:47 AM
Karl Henning?
I knew I made it too easy, I should have scrunched the image even more.
IOW, yes. ;D
Reviving this. :)
The last one is Boulez.
The first is Arthur Rubinstein
The second one is a young Elliott Carter I believe.
Seeing the first pic, I thought 'Richard Strauss'...
First one is Martinu, I think.
Quote from: Drasko on January 07, 2008, 06:42:09 AM
First one is Martinu, I think.
You might be right, Drasko... It's the hair, isn't it?
Quote from: Guido on January 07, 2008, 05:58:24 AM
The second one is a young Elliott Carter I believe.
Correct :)
Quote from: Drasko on January 07, 2008, 06:42:09 AM
First one is Martinu, I think.
Correct. :)
I have three more ready if no one else wants to do a round.
Quote from: Corey on January 07, 2008, 12:06:39 PM
I have three more ready if no one else wants to do a round.
Post them!
Hint: All three are either from the US or lived there at one time.
??? I seem to recognize only the first one, but the name won't come...
Yoda?
Quote from: M forever on January 07, 2008, 12:34:35 PM
Yoda?
Correct, that is not.
Most existing photos of #1 are from when he was younger.
I would guess that the first is Dutilleux
Quote from: Guido on January 07, 2008, 05:00:28 PM
I would guess that the first is Dutilleux
Did Dutilleux ever live in the US? It's not him, anyway. :)
The third looks a little like a young Henze. He did at one point teach in the US. But I wouldn't bet money on that being him.
Second is George Antheil.
Quote from: M forever on January 07, 2008, 05:13:40 PM
The third looks a little like a young Henze. He did at one point teach in the US. But I wouldn't bet money on that being him.
It's not. I'm not really sure if this is fair, because I doubt I would be able to guess him either.
Hint: He's still alive.
Hint: He was born in the US.
Quote from: Drasko on January 07, 2008, 05:19:52 PM
Second is George Antheil.
That's right. I'm surprised no one guessed it earlier.
Quote from: Corey on January 07, 2008, 05:23:29 PM
It's not. I'm not really sure if this is fair, because I doubt I would be able to guess him either.
Hint: He's still alive.
Hint: He was born in the US.
One more hint, please!
Quote from: M forever on January 07, 2008, 05:28:01 PM
One more hint, please!
The background is probably a very big hint.
No guesses for the first and last? Here are some more hints.
No. 1 was a teacher in the US.
No. 1 is famous mostly for his ballets.
No. 2 was one of the leading figures in Post-War American music.
Quote from: Corey on January 07, 2008, 05:36:15 PM
The background is probably a very big hint.
But it's blurry!
My first reaction to the first one was Milhaud. Is that right?
Quote from: lukeottevanger on January 08, 2008, 06:35:30 AM
My first reaction to the first one was Milhaud. Is that right?
Yes.
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z245/tapiola/Milhaudyounger.jpg?t=1199807362)
Quote from: lukeottevanger on January 08, 2008, 06:35:30 AM
My first reaction to the first one was Milhaud. Is that right?
Of course! I knew I recognised him.
No guesses for No. 3? :(
Milton Babbitt?
Quote from: Jezetha on January 09, 2008, 05:28:54 AM
Milton Babbitt?
Haha. Yes. ;D
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z245/tapiola/MiltonBabbitt.jpg)
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z245/tapiola/BabbittOlder.jpg)
I'm very proud of myself... 0:)
P.S. A friend of mine is a (Dutch) music theorist, and a book of his about pitch-class theory will be published this spring by the Rochester University Press. Milton Babbitt figures prominently in it, but I had never seen his picture...