Post by: Mark on November 13, 2007, 03:26:18 PM
Any objections? Thought not. ;D
(PS: A Mod may decide to put this in the 'Buy, Swap & Sell' part of the forum, but personally, I think it'll just get forgotten about there ... and we don't want that, now do we? ;))
Post by: BachQ on November 13, 2007, 03:32:52 PM
(PS: A Mod may decide to put this in the 'Buy, Swap & Sell' part of the forum,
((((PPS: maybe the "Great Recordings" discussion room))))
Post by: Peregrine on November 13, 2007, 03:32:53 PM
Oh, and good use of 'super - duper'... :)
Post by: Mark on November 13, 2007, 03:34:27 PM
((((PPS: maybe the "Great Recordings" discussion room))))
Good call. :)
Any Mods care to move this baby? ???
Post by: Peregrine on November 13, 2007, 03:36:23 PM
The essential Falla:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nights-Gardens-London-Philharmonic-Orchestra/dp/B00001X59X/ref=pd_rhf_p_2/203-3801006-9151904
Scheherazade/RCO/Kondrashin:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EBD84K/ref=ord_cart_shr/203-3801006-9151904
Post by: Don on November 13, 2007, 03:38:49 PM
Bach Organ Works - Julia Brown/Amadis ($2.99). Brown is the organist with four volumes of Buxtehude's organ music and two of Scheidemann's on Naxos.
Post by: Brian on November 13, 2007, 03:57:03 PM
For sake of reference, this list of CDs with superbargain list prices was posted on the old forum, and also includes Don's Bach recommendation:
BACH Organ Works / Julia Brown [Amadis]
BACH Keyboard Partitas 3, 4, and 5 / Wolf Harden [Amadis]
BEETHOVEN Piano Sonatas 8, 14, and 21 / Dubravka Tomsic [various/unknown]
BEETHOVEN Complete Piano Sonatas / Yves Nat [here (http://www.micmacmusic.com/product_info.php?products_id=828)]
BRUCKNER Symphony No. 3 / Hartmut Haenchen, Netherlands Philharmonic [LaserLight]
CASTELNUOVO-TEDESCO Guitar Concerti [Brilliant Classics]
CHOPIN Waltzes / Istvan Szekely [Amadis]
MAHLER Symphony No. 7 / Hartmut Haenchen, Netherlands Philharmonic [LaserLight]
MENDELSSOHN A Midsummer Night's Dream / Christian Pollack, Razumovsky Symphony Orch [Amadis]
RUBINSTEIN/RACHMANINOV: Piano Concerti (4 and 2, respectively) / various artists [Amadis]
TCHAIKOVSY Swan Lake and Sleeping Beauty Suites / Andrew Mogrelia, Philharmonia Cassovia [Amadis]
TCHAIKOVSKY Piano Concerto No. 1 / Jeno Jando, Arpad Joo, Budapest Symphony [LaserLight]
And here (http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Symphonies-Nos-Pastoral-8/dp/B000002X8S/ref=sr_1_1/002-5615556-7935269?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1194998258&sr=8-1) you can find Larry Rinkel's favorite Beethoven Symphony No. 6, for $0.36 (I haven't ordered it yet but plan to).
Post by: Mark on November 13, 2007, 04:00:20 PM
BEETHOVEN Complete Piano Sonatas / Yves Nat [here (http://www.micmacmusic.com/product_info.php?products_id=828)]
Christ on a bike!!! That is a bargain! :o
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on November 13, 2007, 11:47:15 PM
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=136813
(http://www.arkivmusic.com/graphics/covers/msi/full/1/0000573431_170.jpg)
Post by: Great Gable on November 14, 2007, 12:05:46 AM
Post by: Mark on November 14, 2007, 12:14:38 AM
If this is moved could we have separate download and physical threads? I, for one, have no interests in the download side.
A bargain is a bargain is a bargain. If you've no interest in download bargains, just skip 'em. ;)
Post by: knight66 on November 14, 2007, 12:15:14 AM
A great idea for a thread, I will have to get sleuthing.
Cheers,
Mike
Post by: Great Gable on November 14, 2007, 12:19:45 AM
Beeethoven symphonies (Kripps) marketplace sellers only, I only paid £3.48 for my set 2 or 3 days ago - it's now gone up a little
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JMK6G2
Beethoven symphonies (Toscanini)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-Complete-Symphonies-Ludwig-van/dp/B0000CNTLU/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2G4X731IZGXO0&colid=1JQBEDONP93KZ
Beethoven symphonies (Toscanini) Same as above but remastered, marketplace only
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-Symphonies-Nos-1-9/dp/B000028DLA/ref=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=IZE0SYYHSWHPH&colid=1JQBEDONP93KZ
Beethoven symphonies (Mackerras)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-Symphonies-Sir-Charles-Mackerras/dp/B00006J3LK/ref=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3BBXYDAU9WZ8F&colid=1JQBEDONP93KZ
Mozart - Complete Piano Sonatas (Uchida)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Complete-Sonatas-Wolfgang-Amadeus/dp/B00005QDYG/ref=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I10LAK93K7599B&colid=1JQBEDONP93KZ
Liszt - Piano Works (Cziffra)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Piano-Works-Cziffra-Franz-Liszt/dp/B00005IA06/ref=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=IO444WQZSIEBD&colid=1JQBEDONP93KZ
Vaughan Williams - Complete Symphonies (Boult)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vaughan-Williams-Complete-Symphonies-Ralph/dp/B00007A3E2/ref=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3INUPCKJCEDXU&colid=1JQBEDONP93KZ
Wilhelm Kempff - Complete 1950s Concertos Recordings
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wilhelm-Kempff-Complete-Concertos-Recordings/dp/B00007BGXT/ref=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I9Z7LOAZMU3LS&colid=1JQBEDONP93KZ
Post by: Great Gable on November 14, 2007, 12:22:08 AM
A bargain is a bargain is a bargain. If you've no interest in download bargains, just skip 'em. ;)
Fine as long as the poster shows clearly whcih they are recommending.
Post by: sidoze on November 14, 2007, 01:33:25 AM
Post by: Peregrine on November 14, 2007, 01:49:43 AM
Just saved £1.25 on organic asparagus at the Marylebone Waitrose!!!!
;D
Whilst I congratulate you on your purchase, I do question anyone buying Asparagus at this time of the year, for that means it's travelling a long way. Asparagus depreciates quite noticeably in quality after it is picked and would urge anyone to keep their asparagus eating to a seasonal window (May-June, when you'll find me eating loads of the stuff!), to truly appreciate this vegetable in all it's glory.
The food police
$:)
Post by: techniquest on November 14, 2007, 02:41:35 AM
Post by: Harry on November 14, 2007, 03:38:28 AM
No super-duper bargain thread could possibly go without mention of the Barshai Shostakovich Symphonies set on Brilliant Classics. ;)
Or for that matter 90% of Brilliants output......
Post by: Grazioso on November 14, 2007, 04:18:32 AM
But, I'll join in nonetheless :)
Here's a series of great bargains: Arkiv's 25-CD Naxos gift sets. They were recently on sale for $75 and are still relatively inexpensive. One drawback to these sets: a very skimpy booklet and flimsy packaging.
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/listPage.jsp?list_id=734 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/listPage.jsp?list_id=734)
Post by: sidoze on November 14, 2007, 04:20:58 AM
;D
Whilst I congratulate you on your purchase, I do question anyone buying Asparagus at this time of the year, for that means it's travelling a long way. Asparagus depreciates quite noticeably in quality after it is picked and would urge anyone to keep their asparagus eating to a seasonal window (May-June, when you'll find me eating loads of the stuff!), to truly appreciate this vegetable in all it's glory.
The food police
$:)
duly noted. You're in charge of finding us a restaurant when you come back to London! ;D
Quote
Christ on a bike!!!
now that's an image I never would have dreamt of :D
(http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/5/5f/Bikejesus.jpg)
Post by: Mark on November 14, 2007, 04:27:07 AM
It's almost silly to have a separate bargain thread these days, when so many discs are dirt cheap ...
I suppose this thread is all about those CDs/DVDs or sets thereof which can be had for almost zero dollar/pound/euro/yen, etc. ;)
Post by: Peregrine on November 14, 2007, 05:19:33 AM
duly noted. You're in charge of finding us a restaurant when you come back to London! ;D
Consider it done! ;)
Post by: Great Gable on November 14, 2007, 05:21:17 AM
Post by: Peregrine on November 14, 2007, 05:51:09 AM
What's with the name and avatar - are you a birder Peregrine?
I don't know if I'ld call myself a birder per se, but do take a healthy interest in all matters ornithological and particularly raptors! I just enjoy the outdoors generally...
Post by: Grazioso on November 14, 2007, 10:11:35 AM
I suppose this thread is all about those CDs/DVDs or sets thereof which can be had for almost zero dollar/pound/euro/yen, etc. ;)
When I said "almost silly" I definitely didn't mean to denigrate your idea for the thread. I'm a bargain-hunter myself :) I should have said "almost redundant or superfluous" given how easy it can be to find outrageous bargains these days.
While not exactly cheap in and of itself (about $70-100), I can't praise highly enough the quality/cost ratio of the Brilliant Complete Mozart edition, which has given me many, many hours of pleasure for relatively small outlay:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41052ER701L._AA240_.jpg)
Post by: Mark on November 14, 2007, 11:09:11 AM
When I said "almost silly" I definitely didn't mean to denigrate your idea for the thread. I'm a bargain-hunter myself :) I should have said "almost redundant or superfluous" given how easy it can be to find outrageous bargains these days.
No worries. I knew what you meant. ;)
Post by: Peregrine on November 14, 2007, 01:10:38 PM
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/SU38902.htm
Post by: Mark on November 14, 2007, 01:12:09 PM
Seems pretty good, for anyone in need of a Shostakovich cycle (or another!):
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/SU38902.htm
Bookmarked. Thanks. ;)
Post by: Brian on November 14, 2007, 01:19:40 PM
Post by: Mark on November 14, 2007, 01:26:14 PM
Naxos is making their ancient Beethoven symphonies cycle (http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=491197) with conductors Richard Edlinger and Michael Halasz available for $10 download. The quality is, of course, decidedly mixed, but I can attest that the Edlinger performances are actually quite enjoyable.
Can't comment on the Edlinger cycle, but I had three volumes of the Halasz and promptly got rid of them. They weren't just uneven, they were decidedly uninspiring. :(
Post by: Brian on November 14, 2007, 01:31:42 PM
Can't comment on the Edlinger cycle, but I had three volumes of the Halasz and promptly got rid of them. They weren't just uneven, they were decidedly uninspiring. :(In that box Halasz is only responsible for Nos. 3 and 6, but those are so clearly important that I will heed your counsel and cherry-pick.
Y'all should try that quiz, by the way.
Post by: Mark on November 14, 2007, 01:42:40 PM
In that box Halasz is only responsible for Nos. 3 and 6, but those are so clearly important that I will heed your counsel and cherry-pick.
Y'all should try that quiz, by the way.
I'm pretty sure Halasz did them all at some point - Naxos may have withdrawn some of them since Bela Drahos recorded a complete cycle for the label (his cycle, incidentally, being above average, and well worth a listen if you can get it at a good price).
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 18, 2007, 10:15:08 AM
12cds, under a tenner ;D
2 copies left
Post by: DanielFullard on November 18, 2007, 10:32:51 AM
Unless you meant the second hand ones
Post by: Lethevich on November 18, 2007, 10:34:24 AM
Its back up to £40 now >:(
Unless you meant the second hand ones
The marketplace ones for £10 are new - must be overstock or something. Generally the bargains mentioned on Amazon will be from the marketplace... I love it :D
Post by: Peregrine on November 18, 2007, 10:36:46 AM
Unless you meant the second hand ones
That's an interesting choice of phrase, I wonder if many Amazon customers assume such...?
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 18, 2007, 10:45:43 AM
Its back up to £40 now >:(
Unless you meant the second hand ones
Market Place £9.80p's is brand new as Lethe says.
Never buy Amazon direct, when there's a seller around ;D
Post by: Peregrine on November 18, 2007, 10:50:10 AM
Never buy Amazon direct, when there's a seller around ;D
Indeed! Sound Advice
;D
Post by: Lethevich on November 24, 2007, 06:14:44 PM
Shostakovich - Violin concerto nos. 1 & 2 (Yuri Temirkanov, USSR Symphony Orchestra, Victor Tretyakov, Russian Revelation)
I don't know if it's much good or not, but it looks above the usual 1p fare - so, it's here if anybody wants it :)
Post by: Peregrine on November 25, 2007, 12:48:33 AM
On Amazon UK, what I presume is this disc (http://www.amazon.com/Shostakovich-Violin-Concertos-Dmitry/dp/B000009DR1) is available here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tretyakov-plays-Shostakovich-Dmitry/dp/B000009DR1/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195956483&sr=1-4) for 1p.
Shostakovich - Violin concerto nos. 1 & 2 (Yuri Temirkanov, USSR Symphony Orchestra, Victor Tretyakov, Russian Revelation)
I don't know if it's much good or not, but it looks above the usual 1p fare - so, it's here if anybody wants it :)
Well done sir!
I love this thread!
CD's for a penny, happy days. Still seems to be some more left...
:D
Post by: Mark on November 25, 2007, 01:13:14 AM
Well done sir!
Ahem ... madam.
Lethe is a lady. ;)
Post by: Peregrine on November 25, 2007, 02:00:30 AM
Ahem ... madam.
Lethe is a lady. ;)
:-X
Whoops! Sorry, Lethe!
Post by: Novi on November 30, 2007, 03:39:38 PM
Post by: Mark on November 30, 2007, 03:43:59 PM
I've just ordered a double decca of Zemlinsky's orchestral works with Chailly/RCO at amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zemlinsky-Orchestral-Works-Alexander-von/dp/B00008MLU3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1196465652&sr=1-1) for £1.36. I'm not sure how to check how many copies are left though ???.
I got this delivered yesterday, so there must be more than one. ;D
Post by: Novi on November 30, 2007, 03:58:45 PM
I got this delivered yesterday, so there must be more than one. ;D
Cool. Have you had a listen yet?
Erm, when does that no CD business kick off again? ;D
Another one - Il Trovatore (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000E0W25C/sr=1-31/qid=1196466076/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1196466076&sr=1-31&seller=) (Giulini with Domingo, Plowright, Fassbaender) for a couple of quid.
Post by: Mark on November 30, 2007, 04:37:39 PM
And it's January 1st that the CD-buying fast begins. ;)
Post by: Peregrine on December 01, 2007, 01:44:12 PM
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/2564698905.htm
Post by: LVB_opus.125 on December 21, 2007, 09:33:13 PM
;D
Whilst I congratulate you on your purchase, I do question anyone buying Asparagus at this time of the year, for that means it's travelling a long way. Asparagus depreciates quite noticeably in quality after it is picked and would urge anyone to keep their asparagus eating to a seasonal window (May-June, when you'll find me eating loads of the stuff!), to truly appreciate this vegetable in all it's glory.
The food police
$:)
Not only all of that, but it's grown in Peru and controlled by organized crime (source: some Peruvian worker I knew once). I'm not entirely hip on seasons, but I just bought asparagus from the local farmers market a few weeks ago and it was wonderful.
Post by: BorisG on December 22, 2007, 04:43:32 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61cdfBrtQ6L._AA240_.jpg)
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on December 22, 2007, 04:50:23 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/613NZR4CHXL._AA240_.jpg)
which you can get for around $30. Simply scary-good playing from the Staatskapelle Dresden. I would go as far as to say at fortissimo no orchestra sounds remotely as terrifying as the SD, except maybe the Leningrad PO under Mravinsky. It is truly unreal how Jochum push this orchestra to the unfathomale brink of fortissimo at times and yet maintaining the kind of burnished and natural sound the SD is known for. Sure there are mannerisms here and there like in inserting crescendos where they are not in the score (especially in the 5th symphony). But the performances are so convincing you don't care or mind. The set is worth that price alone for the 5th and 9th symphonies. Simply put there are not other similar Bruckner performances in the catalogue.
Post by: Bonehelm on December 22, 2007, 06:29:30 PM
If you are any music fan at all I don't see how you can live without this set:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/613NZR4CHXL._AA240_.jpg)
which you can get for around $30. Simply scary-good playing from the Staatskapelle Dresden. I would go as far as to say at fortissimo no orchestra sounds remotely as terrifying as the SD, except maybe the Leningrad PO under Mravinsky. It is truly unreal how Jochum push this orchestra to the unfathomale brink of fortissimo at times and yet maintaining the kind of burnished and natural sound the SD is known for. Sure there are mannerisms here and there like in inserting crescendos where they are not in the score (especially in the 5th symphony). But the performances are so convincing you don't care or mind. The set is worth that price alone for the 5th and 9th symphonies. Simply put there are not other similar Bruckner performances in the catalogue.
I'd take Karajan/BPO or Celibidache/MPO over Jochum/Dresden anyday.
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on December 22, 2007, 07:02:03 PM
I'd take Karajan/BPO or Celibidache/MPO over Jochum/Dresden anyday.You may, but this is the super-budget bargain thread and last time I checked neither HVK nor Celi's Munich cycle are bargains.
What do you not like about Jochum's readings?
Post by: Bonehelm on December 22, 2007, 07:26:50 PM
You may, but this is the super-budget bargain thread and last time I checked neither HVK nor Celi's Munich cycle are bargains.
What do you not like about Jochum's readings?
No, I saw Celi MPO set a while back for 18 USD shipped. Forgot which site, and the offer is probably expired now. I'll check later.
Post by: Brian on December 22, 2007, 08:59:32 PM
No, I saw Celi MPO set a while back for 18 USD shipped. Forgot which site, and the offer is probably expired now. I'll check later.I hope that's not Celi in full glacier mode. After listening to his absurdly slow 7, Tintner's rendition was a genuine revelation.
Post by: George on December 22, 2007, 09:04:11 PM
No, I saw Celi MPO set a while back for 18 USD shipped. Forgot which site, and the offer is probably expired now. I'll check later.
Please do.
Post by: Bonehelm on December 22, 2007, 09:25:10 PM
I hope that's not Celi in full glacier mode. After listening to his absurdly slow 7, Tintner's rendition was a genuine revelation.
His 7th is not that slow if you've heard his 8th. The finale of the latter is almost 36 minutes long. (The folk in my avatar blows through it in 23 minutes, and he isn't even fast)
Post by: BorisG on December 23, 2007, 02:23:57 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SNENFDSXL._AA240_.jpg)
Post by: MichaelRabin on December 25, 2007, 05:40:03 AM
Post by: jwinter on December 30, 2007, 06:44:59 PM
Sandor Vegh - Mozart Divertimenti & Serenades on Capriccio 10 CDs for about over GBP16 for the set. A real steal, with this set winning the Grand Prix du Disque, I think. Stylish and warmly phrased Mozart - played with panache!
Seconded! That's a great set. I got mine from BRO about a year ago, for less $ than a decent lunch.
Post by: MichaelRabin on December 31, 2007, 02:52:32 AM
MR
Post by: jwinter on January 01, 2008, 01:00:47 PM
Post by: The new erato on January 01, 2008, 01:07:10 PM
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/93423.jpg)
Does it contain both Shostakovich Trios?
Post by: techniquest on January 02, 2008, 02:09:52 PM
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on January 02, 2008, 02:15:45 PM
I hope this counts - HMV has the Mariss Jansons Shostakovich Symphonies set on EMI in their stores sale for £20.Sure counts ! I think Amazon has it in the US for a tad over $30 which is quite a bargain. I didn't bite though, I have the Leningrad from a previous incarnation and it is pretty underwhelming.
Post by: samtrb on January 03, 2008, 06:58:31 AM
Anybody know this?:
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/93423.jpg)
Does it contain both Shostakovich Trios?
Nope, only the second in E minor Op. 67
Otherwise very nice set, got it right before christmas so i havent had time to go through it all yet:
CD1: Tchaikovsky trio in A minor, Alyabiev trio in A minor
CD2: Taneyey trio in D major
CD3: Rachmaninoff trio no.1 in G minor Op Posth, no.2 in D minor Op. 9
Borodin Trio
(Licenced from Chandos)
CD4: Arensky trio in D minor Op. 32, Shostakovich trio no.2 in E minor op. 67;
(not the Borodin Trio, other performers from Brilliant Classics, i guess)
Post by: Gustav on January 21, 2008, 12:08:56 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510W9KwnEZL._AA240_.jpg)
Dorati's Hungarian dances with Bamberg, it's insanely cheap 2 CDs for 1-2 dollars! plus shipping, you probably pay 5-6 dollars for some interesting music!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-RfdJASdL._AA240_.jpg)
Ferencsik beethoven symphonies, although the boxset is not exactly a "bargin", you can buy individual symphonies separetely price ranging from 0.01 to 2-5 dollars! super cheap!
as for the music, you can "sample" these works from naxosmusiclibrary
Post by: BorisG on January 21, 2008, 05:52:33 PM
Post by: Lethevich on January 22, 2008, 11:54:58 AM
Amazon price Price: £11.97, Marketplace price: £3.28 (many sellers, all new). This and the Apex CD are the only way to listen to this composer cheaply IIRC - most of his discography is in the shackles of ECM.
Post by: BorisG on January 22, 2008, 12:20:37 PM
Post by: Novi on March 08, 2008, 03:26:39 PM
Giulini's Chicago box set going for £6.30 from various uk amazon marketplace sellers (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carlo-Maria-Giulini-Chicago-Recordings/dp/B0001ZMBV0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1205018475&sr=8-1):
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417CC20WCCL._AA240_.jpg)
Post by: BorisG on March 10, 2008, 11:19:54 AM
Post by: Lethevich on March 10, 2008, 05:11:59 PM
(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/msiart/large/0000600/0000600232.jpg)
Bah! Cheating! This isn't the Super Cheap Bargains Thread, it's the Super-Duper Cheap Bargains Thread - it must be way cheaper than RRP $:)
Post by: BorisG on March 10, 2008, 07:29:15 PM
Bah! Cheating! This isn't the Super Cheap Bargains Thread, it's the Super-Duper Cheap Bargains Thread - it must be way cheaper than RRP $:)
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. ::)
Currently at Amazon Marketplace UK and France, 2.28 pounds sterling and 3.95 Euros easily qualifies it.
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on March 12, 2008, 12:37:23 PM
Almost couldn't find this thread again.
Giulini's Chicago box set going for £6.30 from various uk amazon marketplace sellers (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carlo-Maria-Giulini-Chicago-Recordings/dp/B0001ZMBV0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1205018475&sr=8-1):
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417CC20WCCL._AA240_.jpg)
Classic! Grabbed mine, got it today for £6.30p Shame as its back upto £10 now (still worth every dime). The highlight of the set for me, even above the Mahler 1 and Brucker 9 is the Beethoven 7th, apotheosis indeed ;)
Thanks for the tip off n heads up!!
Post by: Peregrine on January 17, 2009, 03:05:19 PM
Post by: Sorin Eushayson on January 17, 2009, 07:13:56 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41X0ZJDRF0L._AA240_.jpg)Definitely! I have both of those and bought them for an excellent price, but what's even better is that they're great performances!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SNENFDSXL._AA240_.jpg)
For Vivaldi, try this...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41EC4VEWPFL._SL500_AA240_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Vivaldi-Concertos-Op-8/dp/B000031WJ9/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1232248183&sr=1-1)
For those who don't mind downloads I can recommend these...
Handel: Messiah (Suzuki / Bach Collegium Japan) (http://www.eclassical.com/eclassic/eclassical?&song_id=100132&page=more_info)
Bach: Mass in B Minor (Suzuki / Bach Collegium Japan) (http://www.eclassical.com/eclassic/eclassical?&page=dec07-4)
$8 each - you'll have to pay $40 for these elsewhere! :o
Post by: Peregrine on January 18, 2009, 02:11:51 AM
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//HMN911914.htm
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/HMN911914.jpg)
Post by: Sorin Eushayson on January 18, 2009, 02:15:47 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411DV3B4M4L._SL500_AA240_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Symphonies-Overtures-Classical-Norrington/dp/B00005A9O0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1233066101&sr=8-1)
$23 for what has become my favourite Beethoven symphony cycle (yes, it has its faults). Pardon me, this is an off-topic recommendation: it's not a super-duper bargain, it's a steal!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51itM6qddSL._SL500_AA240_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Concertos-Norrington-Classical-Players/dp/B000090WCD/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1232273381&sr=1-3)
$11 for an entire cycle of the Beethoven piano concerti, with the Choral Fantasia and some other piano pieces thrown into the mix!
Post by: Peregrine on January 18, 2009, 02:23:11 AM
http://www.amazon.fr/Maria-Callas-LInt%C3%A9grale-enregistrements-1949-1969/dp/B000TIO4Z0/ref=reg_hu-wl_list-recs
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51NewJ7K1pL._SS400_.jpg)
Thanks, Rubio ;)
Post by: Peregrine on January 18, 2009, 02:29:27 AM
;D
Post by: ChamberNut on January 19, 2009, 11:13:06 AM
Would that constitute a super-duper cheap bargain? ;D
I'm not sure of the details of the set, it was listed in this small flyer/pamphlet that came with my Amazon order.
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on January 19, 2009, 03:05:58 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41PkIBnAY0L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
All of it for under 50 Euro.
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001LMSOGI/ref=s9newr_c5_img4-rfc_p?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0SGE9F5NPEJWSDHRV906&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375193&pf_rd_i=301128
There is also this one from SONY that sells for about the same price:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41USpKYgqdL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
but I know nothing about.
http://www.amazon.de/Joseph-Haydn-S%C3%A4mtliche-Limitierte-CD/dp/B001NBS5NE/ref=pd_sim_m_10
Post by: Sorin Eushayson on January 19, 2009, 07:24:54 PM
All of it for under 50 Euro.For that price you might as well just get the newly-released Complete Haydn Edition, which has all the symphonies as performed by Fischer and the Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra.
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on January 20, 2009, 04:35:26 PM
For that price you might as well just get the newly-released Complete Haydn Edition, which has all the symphonies as performed by Fischer and the Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra.True, but I think a fellow member was looking for that Dorati set.
Post by: Bulldog on January 20, 2009, 04:47:35 PM
True, but I think a fellow member was looking for that Dorati set.
Screw the conductor. The only thing that counts is getting as many discs as possible for the lowest price.
Of course, only kidding, but it amazes me how many board members seem to feel that quantity/price is the primary factor.
Post by: ChamberNut on January 20, 2009, 05:03:30 PM
but it amazes me how many board members seem to feel that quantity/price is the primary factor.
Sometimes, you gotta try and get the best 'bang for your buck', Don. So yes, it IS a primary factor for a lot of people.
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on January 20, 2009, 08:16:11 PM
Not sure what to expect as the clips are very short but with Argerich in the youthful Burleske it's bound to be pretty good.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61sVxMD%2BFPL._SS500_.jpg)
Post by: Wanderer on January 20, 2009, 11:55:35 PM
Here's an interesting download from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/New-Years-Eve-Concert-Berlin/dp/B0013AWWB6/ref=dm_cd_album_lnk?ie=UTF8&qid=1232510237&sr=1-3) featuring works by Richard Strauss.
Not sure what to expect as the clips are very short but with Argerich in the youthful Burleske it's bound to be pretty good.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61sVxMD%2BFPL._SS500_.jpg)
This Burleske is breathtaking. For once in this work it's the orchestra that's trying to keep up and not the pianist. Argerich's not just fire though; she coaxes melting lyricism from the slower passages, almost discovering new levels of profundity in this more or less monolithic piece. No sense of superficiality here. Good stuff. 8)
Post by: DavidW on January 21, 2009, 03:21:40 AM
Sometimes, you gotta try and get the best 'bang for your buck', Don. So yes, it IS a primary factor for a lot of people.
Well of course you quickly get more music than you can possibly listen to in a reasonable time frame! :D
I just say this since because even a complete Haydn symphonies set that spans dozens of hours is considered not good enough (by Sorin's post) because there is a box set that has 100+ hours of more music. When do you find the time to even listen to so much music that the symphonies cycle alone would be considered too small of a box set for that nice price??? :o
Okay I really just think that Sorin's post just cracks me up! :D
Post by: Grazioso on January 21, 2009, 05:03:30 AM
Well of course you quickly get more music than you can possibly listen to in a reasonable time frame! :D
I just say this since because even a complete Haydn symphonies set that spans dozens of hours is considered not good enough (by Sorin's post) because there is a box set that has 100+ hours of more music. When do you find the time to even listen to so much music that the symphonies cycle alone would be considered too small of a box set for that nice price??? :o
Okay I really just think that Sorin's post just cracks me up! :D
Nothing funny about it: the Fischer set is highly regarded in and of itself, never mind that you also get the rare baryton trios, etc.
Post by: Sorin Eushayson on January 21, 2009, 05:20:24 AM
Well of course you quickly get more music than you can possibly listen to in a reasonable time frame! :DI'm glad you got some amusement out of it! ;D
I just say this since because even a complete Haydn symphonies set that spans dozens of hours is considered not good enough (by Sorin's post) because there is a box set that has 100+ hours of more music. When do you find the time to even listen to so much music that the symphonies cycle alone would be considered too small of a box set for that nice price??? :o
Okay I really just think that Sorin's post just cracks me up! :D
Nothing funny about it: the Fischer set is highly regarded in and of itself, never mind that you also get the rare baryton trios, etc.My point exactly.
Post by: rubio on January 21, 2009, 10:17:02 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Record-of-Singing-Vol-3/dp/B000038I6K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1232560419&sr=1-1
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Post by: DavidW on January 21, 2009, 10:43:32 AM
Nothing funny about it: the Fischer set is highly regarded in and of itself, never mind that you also get the rare baryton trios, etc.
Yes I've listened through it, it's pretty good. That wasn't really my point!
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on January 21, 2009, 09:02:05 PM
This Burleske is breathtaking. For once in this work it's the orchestra that's trying to keep up and not the pianist. Argerich's not just fire though; she coaxes melting lyricism from the slower passages, almost discovering new levels of profundity in this more or less monolithic piece. No sense of superficiality here. Good stuff. 8)
Thanks, Wanderer. I downloaded the Burleske. $0.99 is a small price to pay for great Argerich.
Post by: knight66 on January 24, 2009, 07:47:40 AM
I wonder if this is a mispricing at £10 (10CD). On amazon.com and mdt it cost around £100. I wonder if it is any good. Testament is usually an expensive company.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Record-of-Singing-Vol-3/dp/B000038I6K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1232560419&sr=1-1
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412BM6SWZSL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
I have this and it is a goldmine of singers I did not know of. Well worth getting hold of.
Mike
Post by: eyeresist on January 26, 2009, 08:14:22 PM
Polyansky's Glazunov cycle (http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2639465), with Otaka's 7th, is also available, for whatever that's worth. 7 discs include a number of works besides the symphonies, for about $33.
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 07:57:27 AM
Link to MDT: http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/pages/home/default.asp :)
Post by: Opus106 on January 28, 2009, 08:51:07 AM
Right now at MDT
Bertini's Mahler cycle going for $25!!
Post by: Lethevich on January 28, 2009, 09:36:17 AM
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 09:56:30 AM
Bertini's Mahler cycle going for $25!!
Wow!! Consider that one bought! Is it the complete cycle?
Post by: Opus106 on January 28, 2009, 09:58:43 AM
Wow!! Consider that one bought! Is it the complete cycle?Yes. Also includes the Adagio of #10. Oh, and Das Lied, too. :)
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//3402382.htm
Post by: DavidW on January 28, 2009, 10:01:56 AM
Wow!! Consider that one bought! Is it the complete cycle?
It's my favorite cycle (well tied with Gielen, but it's not as harshly modernistic as Gielen), buy with confidence. :)
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 10:05:27 AM
It's my favorite cycle (well tied with Gielen, but it's not as harshly modernistic as Gielen), buy with confidence. :)
Cool, so Bertini is not conservative?
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 10:06:16 AM
Yes. Also includes the Adagio of #10. Oh, and Das Lied, too. :)
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//3402382.htm
Thanks!
I shall buy it later today after work! My first Mahler cycle. 0:)
Post by: DavidW on January 28, 2009, 10:16:23 AM
Cool, so Bertini is not conservative?
He's not excessively romantic, his performances are dramatic, instead of melodramatic. Many Mahlerites prefer histrionic performances, and would probably pass on Bertini. So just keep that in mind. ;D
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 10:29:13 AM
He's not excessively romantic, his performances are dramatic, instead of melodramatic. Many Mahlerites prefer histrionic performances, and would probably pass on Bertini. So just keep that in mind. ;D
Good info, thanks!
I'm guessing he's something like Barbirolli?
Post by: Lethevich on January 28, 2009, 10:39:59 AM
I'm guessing he's something like Barbirolli?
He is often (rightly) compared to Kubelik, but Neumann is an apt comparison as well. Barbirolli (from the 5th I heard) is a bit more interventionist... Sorry for butting in 0:)
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 10:42:44 AM
He is often (rightly) compared to Kubelik, but Neumann is an apt comparison as well. Barbirolli (from the 5th I heard) is a bit more interventionist... Sorry for butting in 0:)
No problem. Thanks!
Post by: DavidW on January 28, 2009, 10:44:41 AM
He is often (rightly) compared to Kubelik, but Neumann is an apt comparison as well. Barbirolli (from the 5th I heard) is a bit more interventionist... Sorry for butting in 0:)
Yeah that sounds right. :)
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 10:46:23 AM
Post by: Renfield on January 28, 2009, 10:53:59 AM
So if I really dig Barbirolli and don't like Abbaddo very much, will Bertini likely be a good match for me?
Yep. :)
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 10:58:02 AM
Yep. :)
Sweet!!
Bertini's must have nice sound too, being recorded in the 80s, unless it's an early digital recording. :-\
Post by: Lethevich on January 28, 2009, 11:03:41 AM
Bertini's must have nice sound too, being recorded in the 80s, unless it's an early digital recording. :-\
It does sound incredible next to much of the competition, most of which was recorded a lot earlier. Despite the issues with some 80s recordings (Neumann's cycle somewhat included in this, IIRC, although not badly), this one has no sonic problems and the good and quite natural sounding recorded quality tends to be mentioned a lot in reviews.
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 11:08:45 AM
It does sound incredible next to much of the competition, most of which was recorded a lot earlier. Despite the issues with some 80s recordings (Neumann's cycle somewhat included in this, IIRC, although not badly), this one has no sonic problems and the good and quite natural sounding recorded quality tends to be mentioned a lot in reviews.
Ooohh!! This is sounding better and better...
Post by: jwinter on January 28, 2009, 11:11:05 AM
Sweet!!
Bertini's must have nice sound too, being recorded in the 80s, unless it's an early digital recording. :-\
The sound is excellent, I wouldn't worry on that front unless you demand something truly SACD state-of-the-art to wear out your speakers.
Performance-wise, I have quite a few Mahler cycles, and I'd rank Bertini near the top. His may well be the most consistent cycle I've heard, not a bad performance in the bunch. At that price, jump on it.
Post by: George on January 28, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
Performance-wise, I have quite a few Mahler cycles, and I'd rank Bertini near the top. His may well be the most consistent cycle I've heard, not a bad performance in the bunch. At that price, jump on it.
Yeah, baby! :)
Post by: eyeresist on January 28, 2009, 06:37:49 PM
Post by: DavidW on January 28, 2009, 07:56:26 PM
A quick note of dissent: I find Bertini's tempos can drag a bit, and occasionally the orchestra is revealed to be less that top-flight. Not sure about "most consistent cycle" - frmo what I've heard I'd probably nominate the Tennstedt, though it certainly doesn't compare for sound quality.
Tennstedt is only a notable for a decent 8th.
Post by: Renfield on January 28, 2009, 08:26:35 PM
Tennstedt is only a notable for a decent 8th.
Not quite.
A superb live 1st with the CSO, a very good live 5th with the LPO; a beautiful 4th and solid (if not groundbreaking) 2nd from that box set...
A phenomenal live 7th with the LPO, as well; and also one of the best 8ths on record (in the box set), far beyond "decent" IMO.
Not to mention the live 8th on DVD, which is actually better than that already-great studio version.
Even if with "Tennstedt" you meant "the Tennstedt box set", the 2nd (as I mentioned above), the 3rd, the 5th and the 7th are solid, the 9th is capable, the 4th is great, and the 8th is exceptional - again in my opinion, of course. My general point being: why dismiss Tenstedt?
Post by: eyeresist on January 28, 2009, 10:51:02 PM
Even if with "Tennstedt" you meant "the Tennstedt box set", the 2nd (as I mentioned above), the 3rd, the 5th and the 7th are solid, the 9th is capable, the 4th is great, and the 8th is exceptional - again in my opinion, of course. My general point being: why dismiss Tenstedt?IMO the 2nd and 6th are the least of the boxset, but this is partly because the master lacks the heft these works above all others require. The 6th is interesting in that its approach is more "symphonic" than "dramatic". 3rd is regarded as a benchmark, the 4th is magic (can't go wrong with Popp for this symphony), and this recording of the 7th "revealed" the work to me for the first time.
Post by: Renfield on January 29, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
IMO the 2nd and 6th are the least of the boxset, but this is partly because the master lacks the heft these works above all others require. The 6th is interesting in that its approach is more "symphonic" than "dramatic". 3rd is regarded as a benchmark, the 4th is magic (can't go wrong with Popp for this symphony), and this recording of the 7th "revealed" the work to me for the first time.
Admittedly, I have a rather subjective soft spot for Tennstedt's 2nd.
I wouldn't rank it next to the "special" Resurrections (of which there are impressively many), but I'm still happy to listen to it when the mood strikes. The 6th, which I forgot to mention, is probably as you said, "interesting", but nothing amazing IMO.
Post by: John Copeland on January 29, 2009, 09:52:19 PM
"Tennstedt is only a notable for a decent 8th."
:o
On the contrary, I think the Tennstedt Mahler set is a big and exciting Mahler experience on its own merit -overall it's not the cleanest of recordings, but it is broad and gutsy enough to have the LPO contend with some of the big orchestra heavyweights in the Mahler corner. Neumann and the CPO do it with the emphasis on the music and not the big sound, resulting in some of the finest Mahler output I know of. So Tennstedt for big colours with Mahler or Neumann for sheer orchestral precision and mastery with Mahler, more so than anything in the mountains of Mahler I'm lucky enough to posess (other than the CSO Boulez Third, which has it's own light, and some of Inbals clear and brilliant takes).
Neumann isn't expensive, and can be found super-duper cheap.
Post by: Jay F on January 30, 2009, 06:29:58 PM
Is this the version in the box set?
A phenomenal live 7th with the LPO, as well;
Post by: Renfield on January 30, 2009, 07:31:57 PM
Is this the version in the box set?
Nope. BBC Legends, coupled with Mozart's Symphony No. 41. (Another brilliant performance.)
Post by: Jay F on January 31, 2009, 12:31:18 PM
Nope. BBC Legends, coupled with Mozart's Symphony No. 41. (Another brilliant performance.)Thank you. It is my next purchase. Unlike a lot of people, I love the M7. It's close to being a favorite. I like it more than 1, 2, 4, 5, and 9. My favorite is probably Bernstein's on DG. Unlike a lot of works, I am able to listen to lots of different versions and take away something from the experience. With some others, only one version will do. Probably most classical works are like that for me: one right version, and everything else.
I also like Bernstein's CBS M7, Tennstedt's on EMI, new(ish) ones by Barenboim and MTT, and a new SACD by Gergiev. Ironically, I like his M7 less than the others in his series. The first nachtmusic needs a little schleppend, if you know what I mean.
Post by: Jay F on January 31, 2009, 05:11:23 PM
"IMO the 2nd and 6th are the least of the boxset, but this is partly because the master lacks the heft these works above all others require."Tennstedt's Mahler box set is super-duper cheap this week at mdt.co.uk: http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//5729412.htm
"Tennstedt is only a notable for a decent 8th."
:o
On the contrary, I think the Tennstedt Mahler set is a big and exciting Mahler experience on its own merit -overall it's not the cleanest of recordings, but it is broad and gutsy enough to have the LPO contend with some of the big orchestra heavyweights in the Mahler corner. Neumann and the CPO do it with the emphasis on the music and not the big sound, resulting in some of the finest Mahler output I know of. So Tennstedt for big colours with Mahler or Neumann for sheer orchestral precision and mastery with Mahler, more so than anything in the mountains of Mahler I'm lucky enough to posess (other than the CSO Boulez Third, which has it's own light, and some of Inbals clear and brilliant takes).
Neumann isn't expensive, and can be found super-duper cheap.
Post by: Renfield on January 31, 2009, 06:26:38 PM
My favorite is probably Bernstein's on DG.
Definitely get the Tennstedt, then! :)
(http://www.classicalsource.com/images/upload/4993_1.jpg)
And I also liked the Gergiev. It's certainly a bit one-sided, but exhilarating in a way his Mahler 1st, for instance, was not. (IMO)
Otherwise yes, seconding Bernstein DG, and Gielen, Abbado/BPO (a slight edge over Abbado/CSO), the earlier Bernstein, Kondrashin (on Melodiya) and Rattle/CBSO as 7ths I've enjoyed, roughly in order of preference. And Bertini's is good, too. :)
Post by: Jay F on February 01, 2009, 12:49:44 PM
Definitely get the Tennstedt, then! :)I just ordered this ^ Tennstedt Mahler 7/Mozart 41 disc. $20.25 on mdt.co.uk. I look forward to hearing it. M7 has been my Music of the Month since sometime in December (though I've been listening to Bernstein's DG M6 and Rattle's M8, too). I don't think I've ever heard M7 by Rattle. I liked R's M2 a lot back in the day, not as much now. In general, M7 has always been one I liked more than most of the rest. I only became aware in the past year that many people find it least worthy of the bunch. I can't imagine why, I love it so.
(http://www.classicalsource.com/images/upload/4993_1.jpg)
And I also liked the Gergiev. It's certainly a bit one-sided, but exhilarating in a way his Mahler 1st, for instance, was not. (IMO)
Otherwise yes, seconding Bernstein DG, and Gielen, Abbado/BPO (a slight edge over Abbado/CSO), the earlier Bernstein, Kondrashin (on Melodiya) and Rattle/CBSO as 7ths I've enjoyed, roughly in order of preference. And Bertini's is good, too. :)
Post by: Renfield on February 01, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
I only became aware in the past year that many people find it least worthy of the bunch. I can't imagine why, I love it so.
It's complicated. ;)
Post by: Que on April 14, 2009, 11:46:48 AM
€15 at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/7266553) €15 at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/7266553) €15 at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/7266553) €15 at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/7266553) €15 at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/7266553) €15 at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/7266553)
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Q
Post by: Opus106 on April 15, 2009, 04:25:38 AM
Post by: Que on April 15, 2009, 09:00:52 AM
JPC doesn't ship to India. >:(
Sure they do. (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/home/static/-/lang/en/currency/EUR/page/porto) :)
"Conditions of dispatch other Countries: India 24.99 EUR"
But at that (flat) shipping rate I'd order some more items!
Q
Post by: Opus106 on April 15, 2009, 09:13:15 AM
Sure they do. (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/home/static/-/lang/en/currency/EUR/page/porto) :)
"Conditions of dispatch other Countries: India 24.99 EUR"
But at that (flat) shipping rate I'd order some more items!
Q
Looks like they don't update their site to reflect their policies, either. ;D I once (a few months ago, perhaps) e-mailed them regarding something I found in their site and they told me that they had stopped shipping things here due to certain issues they had had with credit cards. :(
Post by: Elgarian on April 15, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
You see the problem?
Anyway, I'm getting ready to slink off miserably and endure terrible abuse, but here are my bargains.
First one:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41yowchJuIL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
It's available here:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Versailles-200-Years-Music-20cd/dp/B001AUKJKU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1239823540&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Versailles-200-Years-Music-20cd/dp/B001AUKJKU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1239823540&sr=1-1)
About £50 for the box. Probably the best bargain box I ever bought in my life. When I bought it, I had virtually no interest in Baroque music, but this was such a bargain that I thought I'd try it, and besides it was such a pretty box, and such a clever website (http://www.baroqueboxset.com/acceuil.html (http://www.baroqueboxset.com/acceuil.html)). I chose a disc at random; two voices from Heaven (Sophie Daneman and Patricia Petibon) sang Couperin with Les Arts Florissants, and I turned around and said - 'Where has this music been all my life?'
So this bargain box changed my life for ever. Lully. Rameau. Charpentier. Mondonville. I love you all, but never knew it till last year.
Next bargain box:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513-dgofOML._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
This is sheer tomfoolery. Under £50 for 50 discs, available here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Deutsche-Harmonia-Mundi-Years-1958-2008/dp/B0014RIULO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1239824120&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Deutsche-Harmonia-Mundi-Years-1958-2008/dp/B0014RIULO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1239824120&sr=1-1)
This has not, I must say, had quite such a barnstorming effect as the Versailles box, but at £1 per disc I'm not grumbling. The first thing it did was introduce me to the delights of Durante, in the shape of this CD:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZE22N0V5L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
I loved this! And you can still find copies of this CD. At the moment the cheapest new one available will cost you £85 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stabat-Mater-Astorga-Pergolesi-Durante/dp/B0001HQ2R2/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1239824317&sr=1-11 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stabat-Mater-Astorga-Pergolesi-Durante/dp/B0001HQ2R2/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1239824317&sr=1-11)). So the way I see it, by buying this box, I got a really great £85 piece of music at half price, and got 49 free CDs as well. Can't fault that kind of logic, right?
Finally, thanks to a recommendation from Lethe (thank you, Lethe):
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61NQ50FQSBL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
£11 for 5 Cds. And OK, so I already had the Couperin recording, so really it was £11 for 4 CDs. But then I dipped into the box and pulled out Les Demoiselles De Saint-Cyr, singing pieces by Clerambault. Who? Yes, Clerambault - that Baroque household name. And I stood there in the kitchen, listening to Les Demoiselles pulling one thrilling, spine tingling harmony after another out of the air, and thought - it doesn't get better than this. Where can you get this kind of experience for a few pounds a throw? Nowhere.
Those are my bargains. Life-changing ones. Bloomin' marvellous. I salute them. I revel in their bargain-ness. I commend them to you. No sniggering at the back, please.
Post by: Que on April 15, 2009, 11:06:59 AM
Looks like they don't update their site to reflect their policies, either. ;D I once (a few months ago, perhaps) e-mailed them regarding something I found in their site and they told me that they had stopped shipping things here due to certain issues they had had with credit cards. :(
Oh, that sucks! :o :-\
I imagnine it must be pretty hard to get classical CD's (Western classical music, that is) in India?
I'm worried. I embark on this with some trepidation, because I have this niggling feeling that when I post my bargains, everybody will snigger behind their CD stacks and then say 'OK, those... yeah, well, yeah, they're so obvious that we didn't mention them'. And so I'll sneak away quietly to sob behind my CD stacks; and then one of you, a bit more kind-hearted than most, will shuffle across and say 'It's OK, old chap, really. We've all done this sort of witless thing. Don't worry about it.' And I'll almost believe it, until I hear another barely suppressed snigger, which erupts into a guffaw, whereupon I'll jump up and stamp my feet and shout 'Look here, they were as cheap as chips and so I call 'em bargains!'
You see the problem?
Great choices! :) And a great post, BTW.
I already have the last box set you posted and the first is still on my wish list, even when I already have a sizable French Baroque collection. Which is of quite recent date BTW - like you, I had for a very long time no idea of its hidden riches! :o
Ha! I welcome another interested reader (and hopefully contributor) to the French Baroque thread (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,1729.0.html) and the other Baroque threads! :)
Q
Post by: Elgarian on April 15, 2009, 12:29:23 PM
Ha! I welcome another interested reader (and hopefully contributor) to the French Baroque thread (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,1729.0.html) and the other Baroque threads! :)
Thanks for the link! My goodness, there's a lot to work through, there - and even more recordings to check out. I've planted a small flag there, in the meantime.
Vive le Roi, mon brave!
Post by: Opus106 on April 15, 2009, 11:25:18 PM
Oh, that sucks! :o :-\
I imagnine it must be pretty hard to get classical CD's (Western classical music, that is) in India?
Yes, it is. I'm not sure about the other metros, but I usually go to this bookstore (three different locations of it) which has only the major labels (EMI, Universal's labels, and some Naxos, but on occassion I've seen HM and Hyperion turn up) and mostly the warhorses.
Post by: Opus106 on April 16, 2009, 02:17:37 AM
And, has anyone heard of this guy called Bruckner? ::)
So here it is, the Symphonies box from Brilliant Classics. 100 CDs.
(http://prestoclassical.co.uk/t_200/brilliantclassics8635.jpg)
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Beethoven
Symphonies Nos. 1-9 (complete)
Staatskapelle Dresden, Herbert Blomstedt
Borodin
Symphonies Nos. 1-3 (Complete)
Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Gennadi Rozhdestvensky
Brahms
Symphonies Nos. 1-4 (Complete)
Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra, Jaap van Zweden
Clementi
The Complete Symphonies
The Philharmonia, Francesco d’Avalos
Dvorak
Symphony No. 8 in G major, Op. 88
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Paavo Järvi/Yehudi Menuhin
Symphony No. 9 in E minor, Op. 95 'From the New World'
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Paavo Järvi/Yehudi Menuhin
Haydn
Symphonies Nos. 1 - 104 (complete)
Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra, Adam Fischer
Liszt
Dante Symphony, S109
Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra, Hartmut Haenchen
Mahler
Symphonies 1-9 (complete)
Gewandhaus Orchester Leipzig, London Symphony Orchestra & Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra, Vaclav Neumann, Jascha Horenstein & Hartmut Haenchen
Mozart
Symphonies (Complete)
Mozart Akademie Amsterdam, Jaap ter Linden
Nielsen
Symphonies Nos. 1-6 (Complete)
Janacek Philharmonic Orchestra, Theodore Kuchar
Rimsky Korsakov
Symphony No. 1
London Symphony Orchestra & Philharmonia Orchestra, Yondani Butt
Symphony No. 2, Op. 9 'Antar'
London Symphony Orchestra & Philharmonia Orchestra, Yondani Butt
Symphony No. 3 in C
London Symphony Orchestra & Philharmonia Orchestra, Yondani Butt
Saint-Saëns
Symphony No. 3 in C minor, Op. 78 'Organ Symphony'
Orchestre National de Lyon, Emmanuel Krivine
Schubert
Symphonies Nos. 1-9 (Complete)
Hanover Band, Roy Goodman
Schumann
Symphonies Nos. 1-4 (Complete)
Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields, Sir Neville Marriner
Shostakovich
Symphonies Nos. 1-15 (Complete)
WDR Sinfonieorchester, Rudolf Barshai
Tchaikovsky
Symphony No. 4 in F minor, Op. 36
London Symphony Orchestra, Gennadi Rozhdestvensky
Symphony No. 5 in E minor, Op. 64
London Symphony Orchestra, Gennadi Rozhdestvensky
Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Op. 74 'Pathétique'
London Symphony Orchestra, Gennadi Rozhdestvensky
Post by: Elgarian on April 17, 2009, 10:51:34 AM
When I stumbled across their sale today, I helped myself to the following, for a total of about £24:
(http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/jpegs/034571177014.png)
and
(http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/jpegs/034571172835.png)
Here's the link:
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1019 (http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1019)
Post by: Opus106 on May 31, 2009, 08:50:51 AM
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Anton-Bruckner-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/1827058
Assuming the Germans follow the right way of writing dates, this should be out in a little over a month's time.
Post by: Coopmv on May 31, 2009, 09:28:23 AM
Not sure if folk here are aware of the Handel half-price sale at Hyperion? Their box sets (mostly 2CDs) of Handel are available post free at half price, plus an extra 10% discount if you spend more than £20. (And even more discount if you keep on buying - which I didn't, since I thought I'd quite like to eat again before the end of the month).
When I stumbled across their sale today, I helped myself to the following, for a total of about £24:
(http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/jpegs/034571177014.png)
and
(http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/jpegs/034571172835.png)
Here's the link:
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1019 (http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1019)
I think MDT only offered the half-price deal to its UK customers ... :(
Post by: Coopmv on May 31, 2009, 09:31:25 AM
Karajan's Bruckner cycle -- DGG, of course -- for 28 Euros.
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Anton-Bruckner-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/1827058
Assuming the Germans follow the right way of writing dates, this should be out in a little over a month's time.
I bought this mammoth set, which I have yet to play. The set already includes all the Karajan Bruckner Symphonies ...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41hawrjnETL._SS500_.jpg)
Post by: Elgarian on May 31, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
I think MDT only offered the half-price deal to its UK customers ... :(
Have you tried checking out the Hyperion website directly? I haven't seen any obvious statement that the halfprice Handel sale is UK only (the sale is currently on again), though it might say so in some small print somewhere.
Post by: Coopmv on May 31, 2009, 11:04:41 AM
Have you tried checking out the Hyperion website directly? I haven't seen any obvious statement that the halfprice Handel sale is UK only (the sale is currently on again), though it might say so in some small print somewhere.
No, I have not checked out the Hyperion website directly. I have ONLY been buying from MDT. I have heard that between the global recession and the loss of a copyright lawsuit that caused Hyperion some significant financial damage, the company really needs to boost sales any which way it can ...
Post by: Opus106 on May 31, 2009, 12:07:12 PM
Karajan's Bruckner cycle -- DGG, of course -- for 28 Euros.
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Anton-Bruckner-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/1827058
Assuming the Germans follow the right way of writing dates, this should be out in a little over a month's time.
Oh, never mind. I just noticed that it's been available at Amazon.com for more or less the same price for some months.
http://www.amazon.com/Symphonies-1-9-Box-Bruckner/dp/B001DCQI8W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1243803709&sr=1-1
Post by: Coopmv on May 31, 2009, 12:27:38 PM
Oh, never mind. I just noticed that it's been available at Amazon.com for more or less the same price for some months.
http://www.amazon.com/Symphonies-1-9-Box-Bruckner/dp/B001DCQI8W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1243803709&sr=1-1
I still get a better deal with the Karajan Symphony Edition since I get all the Bruckner Symphonies plus a few of the Haydn Symphonies I have been having a hard time finding at a reasonable price. I will just put up with the other duplicates.
Post by: The new erato on June 01, 2009, 08:08:19 AM
I think MDT only offered the half-price deal to its UK customers ... :(No. At least to Norway they did....
Post by: Coopmv on June 01, 2009, 04:16:33 PM
No. At least to Norway they did....
I went straight to the Hyperion website yesterday and really did not notice any half price promotion. ???
Post by: Bulldog on June 01, 2009, 05:49:48 PM
I went straight to the Hyperion website yesterday and really did not notice any half price promotion. ???
You have to click on "Current Offers", then you'll see "Half-Price Handel". About 12 Oratorios and Operas are listed. Might be a good time to investigate the operas.
Post by: Scarpia on June 01, 2009, 05:55:16 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41wl67vTOVL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Another sad fact is that the British pound is up to $1.65 (from $1.50 a few weeks ago). Bargains from MDT are not as attractive as before. Damn Obama!
Post by: Coopmv on June 01, 2009, 06:08:35 PM
You have to click on "Current Offers", then you'll see "Half-Price Handel". About 12 Oratorios and Operas are listed. Might be a good time to investigate the operas.
Thanks, I just checked. It turned out I have already picked up all those CD's from MDT at pretty much the same price. I think I am a bit maxed out on these (lesser-known) oratorios for now.
Post by: The new erato on June 01, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
I went straight to the Hyperion website yesterday and really did not notice any half price promotion. ???That's because it ended about a week ago.
Post by: Elgarian on June 01, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
That's because it ended about a week ago.
I thought the Hyperion half-price Handel sale had ended too, but either it never did, or they've started it up again. Here it is:
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1019 (http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1019)
Post by: Novi on July 17, 2009, 10:00:21 PM
Post by: Que on July 17, 2009, 10:13:26 PM
Van Immerseel's Beethoven Symphonies for a crazy £7.31 here (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/search.php?searchString=immerseel+anima+beethoven).
I just ordered it. Many thanks, Novi!!! :)
Q
Post by: Wanderer on July 18, 2009, 12:33:20 AM
I just ordered it. Many thanks, Novi!!! :)
Me too. Thanks for letting us know! 8)
Post by: Opus106 on July 18, 2009, 08:55:56 AM
Van Immerseel's Beethoven Symphonies for a crazy £7.31 here (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/search.php?searchString=immerseel+anima+beethoven).
w00t-alicious! The offer must have started today, since I didn't see it yesterday. Thanks a bunch for the alert.
Post by: Elgarian on July 18, 2009, 10:00:10 AM
Van Immerseel's Beethoven Symphonies for a crazy £7.31 here (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/search.php?searchString=immerseel+anima+beethoven).
They must have sold a lot during the day - the price is up to £11.70 now. Wish I'd spotted this earlier! Still a great bargain though.
Post by: Brian on July 18, 2009, 04:39:14 PM
They must have sold a lot during the day - the price is up to £11.70 now. Wish I'd spotted this earlier! Still a great bargain though.Yep, price has gone considerably up. Darn :( Still a bargain, but I'm hesitating...
Post by: Elgarian on July 18, 2009, 11:59:09 PM
Yep, price has gone considerably up. Darn :( Still a bargain, but I'm hesitating...
I see what you mean, Brian - £17.55 this morning. Do they have some automatic system that increases the price by a small amount every time someone buys one? Must be something like that - I don't imagine some chap has been sitting there all night deciding what the price should be for the next hour. Clever ploy - only the first few sets get given away, then as the word gets around, more and more buy at the progressively higher (but still bargain) price. And if we're tempted we have to decide fast - because the price keeps going up. Ooh. Almost painful to think about.
Post by: Que on July 24, 2009, 01:48:18 AM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/5028421936123.jpg)
BTW the Brüggen LvB cycle is still availble for a mere 15 euros....
Q
Post by: Renfield on July 24, 2009, 06:33:52 PM
From 27 for 13 euros at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Thomas-Tallis-Complete-Works/hnum/1088184).
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/5028421936123.jpg)
BTW the Brüggen LvB cycle is still availble for a mere 15 euros....
Q
Brilliant timing indeed. ;) :D
In all seriousness, I was just looking for a good collection of Tallis' work, and here it is.
I should likely snap this up with the Kitajenko Shostakovich cycle, while I'm at it (and it's still that cheap). Many thanks for the heads-up!
Post by: Lethevich on July 25, 2009, 01:57:17 AM
From 27 for 13 euros at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Thomas-Tallis-Complete-Works/hnum/1088184).
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/5028421936123.jpg)
BTW the Brüggen LvB cycle is still availble for a mere 15 euros....
Thanks for pointing this out to whoever may be interested. This thread is brilliant, let's keep it alive - mere bargains are not good enough! :)
Post by: Harry on July 25, 2009, 02:04:39 AM
Post by: Wanderer on July 26, 2009, 07:02:43 PM
Post by: MishaK on July 27, 2009, 03:36:17 AM
Post by: dirkronk on July 27, 2009, 04:23:52 AM
Anyone in Chicago should go check out the CSO Symphony Store. They're sadly going out of business as the rents in the building they occupy have gone through the roof, so all their stock is on sale at 30% off and more. There are some real gems that can only be found there, e.g. various CSO "from the Archives" sets of live performances, including, e.g., one with a riveting Janacek Glagolitic Mass conducted by Boulez or a Kubelik set that includes the Tristan Liebestod.
Aaaarrghh!!!
I HATE hearing stuff like this. I mean, it's not like I wouldn't swoop down like a buzzard IF I could make it into Chicago...I've wanted some of those archive sets for years. But (1) there's no way I can make it there and (2) I just don't like the idea of yet more venues of this sort biting the dust.
:'(
Dirk
Post by: MishaK on July 27, 2009, 05:07:40 AM
Post by: MishaK on July 29, 2009, 09:51:02 AM
Post by: Opus106 on August 25, 2009, 07:58:21 AM
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SACRED MUSIC
Cornerstone works of Sacred
From The Middle Ages to the 20th Century
Includes:
J. S. BACH Weihnachts-Oratorium / René Jacobs
HANDEL Messiah / William Christie
MONTEVERDI Vespro della Beata Vergine / Philippe Herreweghe
ALESSANDRO SCARLATTI Cain overo Il primo omicidio / René Jacobs
MENDELSSOHN Paulus / Philippe Herreweghe
BERNSTEIN Mass / Kent Nagano
BEETHOVEN Missa Solemnis / Philippe Herreweghe
MOZART Requiem / Philippe Herreweghe
BRAHMS Requiem allemand / Philippe Herreweghe
FAURE Requiem (1893) / Philippe Herreweghe
ANON Requiem grégorienne / Deller Consort
DURUFLE Requiem Choir of Madgalen College
CHARPENTIER Te Deum / William Christie
PERGOLESI Stabat Mater / Concerto Vocale, René Jacobs
VIVALDI Stabat Mater / Ensemble 415, Scholl, Chiara Banchini
BOCCHERINI Stabat Mater / Ensemble 415, Banchini
ROSSINI Stabat Mater / RIAS Kammerchor, Marcus Creed
MACHAUT Messe de Notre Dame / EPCC
RACHMANINOV Vespers / Paul Hillier
JOSQUIN DESPREZ Missa Pangue lingua / Ensemble Clément Janequin
JANEQUIN Messe ‘La Bataille’ / Ensemble Clément Janequin
LASSUS Missa ‘Tous les regretz’ Huelgas,Van Nevel
PALESTRINA Missa Viri Galilaei / Philippe Herreweghe
BYRD Mass for 4 Voices / Hilliard Ensemble
J. S. BACH Missa brevis in F BWV 233 / Cantus Cölln, Konrad Junghänel
POULENC Mass in G, Motets / RIAS Kammerchor, Marcus Creed
CHARPENTIER Seconde Leçon de Ténèbres du Mercredy / Concerto Vocale, René Jacobs
COUPERIN Troisième Leçon de Ténèbres / Concerto Vocale, René Jacobs
ROVETTA Solemn Vespers / Cantus Cölln, Konrad Junghänel
TALLIS 9 Psalm Tunes for Archbishop Parker's Psalter / Stile Antico
SCHÜTZ Concert in Form einer teutschen Begräbnis / Philippe Herreweghe
Harmonia Mundi 30cds (29+PDF) HMX2908304-33
Currently available for pre-order for $45 at MDT (http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/NR_October09/HMX2908304-33.htm), although the shipping alone would add $20-30 extra for some of us. Perhaps they should have added BWV 232 to make it even more enticing.
Post by: Harry on September 19, 2009, 12:31:16 AM
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Dimitri-Schostakowitsch-Streichquartette-Nr-1-15/hnum/1985328
Post by: Harry on September 19, 2009, 02:24:14 AM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on September 20, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Jörg Demus
Nuova Era
13 CDs
EUR 9.99 at JPC:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Robert-Schumann-S%E4mtliche-Klavierwerke-Wallet-Boxen/hnum/5476606
Post by: Brian on September 20, 2009, 07:22:51 PM
Schumann - Complete Piano Works
Jörg Demus
Nuova Era
13 CDs
EUR 9.99 at JPC:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Robert-Schumann-S%E4mtliche-Klavierwerke-Wallet-Boxen/hnum/5476606
:o :o :o :o :o
You're kidding!!!
Post by: Harry on September 20, 2009, 10:42:53 PM
Post by: Harry on September 20, 2009, 10:43:38 PM
Schumann - Complete Piano Works
Jörg Demus
Nuova Era
13 CDs
EUR 9.99 at JPC:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Robert-Schumann-S%E4mtliche-Klavierwerke-Wallet-Boxen/hnum/5476606
I think this is a excellent set to have, and for this price its a no brainer really.
Post by: Wanderer on September 20, 2009, 10:56:23 PM
I think this is a excellent set to have, and for this price its a no brainer really.
Hiya, Harry! 8)
I think some performances are rather mediocre, but the set's well worth the price tag.
Post by: Harry on September 20, 2009, 11:08:40 PM
Hiya, Harry! 8)
I think some performances are rather mediocre, but the set's well worth the price tag.
Apart from the sound which is sometimes cranky, I thought the interpretation well up to a level, that I say, its the best in Schumann I heard so far.
On par with Kempff.
So don't shoot me for that observation. ;D
Post by: Coopmv on September 21, 2009, 06:34:41 PM
From 27 for 13 euros at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Thomas-Tallis-Complete-Works/hnum/1088184).
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/5028421936123.jpg)
BTW the Brüggen LvB cycle is still availble for a mere 15 euros....
Q
It certainly looks like half the GMG members have this set. I bought mine a few years back ...
Post by: Coopmv on September 21, 2009, 06:38:14 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51p63cCYYLL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Here is the link (http://www.amazon.com/Johann-Sebastian-Bach-Premium-Box/dp/B000SQJ2CS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1253590636&sr=1-1)
Post by: Coopmv on September 21, 2009, 06:39:54 PM
Schumann - Complete Piano Works
Jörg Demus
Nuova Era
13 CDs
EUR 9.99 at JPC:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Robert-Schumann-S%E4mtliche-Klavierwerke-Wallet-Boxen/hnum/5476606
I paid about $20 for this set some 6 months ago. It was a no-brainer.
Post by: Que on September 21, 2009, 09:01:29 PM
I paid around $20 for this set with shipping a few months back. It was a real bargain then, but much less so now ...
Soooo, why post it on this thread?? ::)
Super-duper cheap bargains from the past - I could fill a few pages whith that... 8) (But won't... 0:)).
Q
Post by: nigeld on September 24, 2009, 05:42:52 AM
HANDEL Rodrigo, Radamisto, Admeto, Fernando, re di Castiglia, Arminio, Deidamia. Joyce Di Donato, Patrizia Ciofi, Vivica Genaux, Veronica Cangemi, Max Emanuel Cencic, Sandrine Piau, Il Complesso Barocco / Alan Curtis. Virgin Classics 15cds
Deidamia I already have, the others are new for me. Alan Curtis' attempts at Handel opera are generally well reviewed. I can certainly vouch for the Deidamia.
Anything with Sandrine Piau works for me !!
Post by: nigeld on September 24, 2009, 05:48:03 AM
If it is cheap enough, then you should consider these box sets.
Bach sacred cantatas - Suzuki (BIS). 10 cd's per box. Again best price is at MDT
Post by: Harry on September 24, 2009, 07:46:36 AM
Not sure if £2.80 per disc is Super-Duper cheap, forgive me if not.
If it is cheap enough, then you should consider these box sets.
Bach sacred cantatas - Suzuki (BIS). 10 cd's per box. Again best price is at MDT
That is a super bargain, believe me, I paid full price for it. That is 19,00 euro's for each CD.
Post by: Harry on September 25, 2009, 09:40:32 AM
Post by: The new erato on September 26, 2009, 12:16:15 AM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on October 02, 2009, 03:18:50 PM
"Offer of the Day" at the Spanish store Diverdi:
http://www.diverdi.com/tienda/detalle.aspx?id=19433
>:D 0:)
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on October 02, 2009, 03:43:20 PM
The Endellions cycle of Beethoven quartets on 10 discs, including the quintet and various smaller works, are available at around £ 20 on europadiscs Warner sale.The artists-in-residence while I was in college. You cannot meet nicer people than this group. Haven't heard these recordings but look forward to.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 02, 2009, 04:07:45 PM
The artists-in-residence while I was in college. You cannot meet nicer people than this group. Haven't heard these recordings but look forward to.
I've heard one, and one of their Haydn's too. Very nice. This is a good group of players. :)
8)
----------------
Listening to:
Ensemble 415 - WAM Trio in Eb for Fortepiano, Clarinet & Viola K 498 3rd mvmt
Post by: Opus106 on October 03, 2009, 05:01:25 AM
Koopman's original set of the complete cantatas: EUR 400.-
"Offer of the Day" at the Spanish store Diverdi:
http://www.diverdi.com/tienda/detalle.aspx?id=19433
>:D 0:)
Super-duper cheap bargain? Really?
Post by: Brian on October 03, 2009, 06:57:03 AM
Super-duper cheap bargain? Really?More like a super-duper expensive bargain. ;D
Post by: Novi on October 03, 2009, 07:16:24 AM
Super-duper cheap bargain? Really?
More like a super-duper expensive bargain. ;D
Yes, but you save €400,01! ;D When was the last time you saved such a super-duper amount of money? :D
Post by: The new erato on October 03, 2009, 07:27:34 AM
Post by: Opus106 on October 03, 2009, 07:53:23 AM
Yes, but you save €400,01! ;D When was the last time you saved such a super-duper amount of money? :D
Buy at JPC and you save one... er, hey, what's 1/100th of a Euro? ???
Post by: Antoine Marchand on October 03, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
Buy at JPC and you save one... er, hey, what's 1/100th of a Euro? ???
Oh, you are missing a previous discussion on the thread “Fair prices for music?”:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,14309.0.html
It was said there that a price of EUR 400 for the reissue of Koopman’s set was a bargain. But currently Diverdi offers the original sets of the cycle at the same price.
:)
Post by: Coopmv on November 01, 2009, 02:24:15 PM
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/88697478442.jpg)
Featuring their famous and now deleted recording of the so-called "Earthquake" mass by Antoine Brumel, this 15 CDs boxset includes some of the most prestigious recordings available on the Sony Classical VIVARTE label and sheds light on this long-forgotten music that too often seems to lie in dark corners of European archives and libraries.
Paul van Nevel, choirmaster, musicologist, and cultural historian founded the Huelgas Ensemble in the early 1970's at the Schola Cantorum Basiliensis. The Ensemble has emerged as one of Europe's main vocal ensembles dedicated to the performance of music from the Middle Ages and the Renaissance. Van Nevel has won a number of prestigious awards for his recordings with the Huelgas Ensemble. Their recording of the music of Renaissance composer Mattheus Pipelare, Pipelare: Missa "L'homme armé" , won the 1998 Cannes Classical Award for Best Choral Music, in addition to the Diapason d'or in 1996. Previous albums, including their critically acclaimed Utopia Triumphans, have accumulated similar accolades. Van Nevel has also been awarded the "Prix In Honorem" from the Académie Charles Cros in Paris.
Tracks:
CD 1 Codex Las Huelgas - Music from 13th Century Spain
CD 2 Febus Avant! ,Music at the Court of Gaston Febus (1331-1391)
CD 3 Music from the Court of King Janus at Nicosia (1374-1432)
CD 4 Utopia Triumphans - Tallis, Striggio and other renaissance choral works
CD 5 Alexander Agricola - A Secret Labyrinth
CD 6 Matthaeus - Missa "L'homme armé", Chansons, Motets
CD 7 Antoine Brumel - Missa "Et ecce terrae motus", Sequentia "Dies irae"
CD 8 Mateo Flecha el Viejo (1481-1553) - Las Ensaladas
CD 9 Costanzo Festa (c.1490-1545) - Magnificat, Mass parts, Motets, Madrigals
CD 10 Nicolas Gombert (c.1500-c.1557) - Music from the Court of Charles V
CD 11 Pierre de Manchicourt (c.1510-1564) - Missa "Veni Sancte Spiritus", Motets, Chansons
CD 12 Orlando di Lasso (1532-1594) - Lagrime di San Pietro
CD 13 Jacobus Gallus (1550-1591) - Opus musicum, Missa super "Sancta Maria"
CD 14 Cancoes, Vilancicos - e Motetes Portugueses , Séculos XVI-XVII
CD 15 Joao Lourenco Rebelo (1610-1661) Lamentations for Maundy Thursday, Vesper Psalms
Erato,
Do you have the set? If so, how do you like it so far?
Post by: The new erato on November 01, 2009, 02:34:12 PM
Erato,Nix, I have the Brumel since ten years, and that's amazing. Several other discs in it have been on my wishlist for years, so of course it is on order. But with such a varied repertoire, I guess a simple answer will be difficult, even though I expect the usual van Nevel quality.
Do you have the set? If so, how do you like it so far?
Post by: Coopmv on November 01, 2009, 02:41:49 PM
Nix, I have the Brumel since tn years, and that's amazing. Seceral other discs in it have been on my wishlist for years, so of course it is on order. But with such a varied repertoire, I guess a simple answer will be difficult, even though I expect the usual van Nevel quality.
My focus for this year has been to expand my collection of early music and I have been reasonably successful. Thanks for this link, as I will probably go for the set ...
Post by: ammar on November 02, 2009, 06:10:47 PM
I was browsing Amazon.fr marketplace and came across the 60CD Brahms set issued by Brilliant Classics for 20 euros , as sold by abeille musique :
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0012Y1J3K/
Also sold through their own site :
http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93554/5028421935546/Brilliant-Classics/Johannes-Brahms/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-29328.html
(For peace of mind, I can state that I've had a 100% success rate with them too - 1 CD ordered, 1 CD received ;) )
Post by: ammar on November 02, 2009, 06:18:49 PM
...and whilst you're on Amazon.fr, why not pick up the 70 CD EMI / Callas complete studio recordings 1949 - 1969 for 30 euros ?
Code: [Select]
http://www.amazon.fr/Maria-Callas-LIntégrale-enregistrements-1949-1969/dp/B000TIO4Z0/or, if you haven't already partaken, for 42 euros you can get :
Code: [Select]
http://www.amazon.fr/Mozart-LIntégrale-en-170-CD/dp/B000A0HFZS/
Post by: Brian on November 02, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
Thanks to your links I've discovered that, between Abeille Musique and Amazon.fr, I can order the complete works of Brahms, Mozart, AND Chopin (Chopin in double: modern and historical recordings) - all for US $144. And the Brilliant Historic Russian Archives 100 cd box is $90 more.
Somebody talk me out of buying all of that! :o
Post by: Grazioso on November 03, 2009, 03:45:07 AM
Wow, ammar, that's amazing!! :o :o
Thanks to your links I've discovered that, between Abeille Musique and Amazon.fr, I can order the complete works of Brahms, Mozart, AND Chopin (Chopin in double: modern and historical recordings) - all for US $144. And the Brilliant Historic Russian Archives 100 cd box is $90 more.
Somebody talk me out of buying all of that! :o
Well, if you want to be talked out of it--but into something else :)--consider this complete Brahms edition from DG, which can be had cheaply if you hunt around:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kXnlJzA5L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 03, 2009, 10:14:07 AM
Wow, ammar, that's amazing!! :o :o
Thanks to your links I've discovered that, between Abeille Musique and Amazon.fr, I can order the complete works of Brahms, Mozart, AND Chopin (Chopin in double: modern and historical recordings) - all for US $144. And the Brilliant Historic Russian Archives 100 cd box is $90 more.
Somebody talk me out of buying all of that! :o
If you're really into this one-stop bulk buying then there's no stopping you. :) But it's never exactly been my preferred way to collect music (I do of course own boxes).
It's been mainly the slow lane of collecting for me, cultivating a collectors' mentality that puts more emphasis on research and exploration than instant gratification.
But NOT necessarily because I'm more "erudite" than anyone else. 8) It's just that I've been burned by substandard (or downright poor) performances more times than I'd care to recollect which leaves the bitterest taste in my collecting mouth. Not to mention it's money wasted.
So lots of lessons learned.
And lesson number one is "don't go for the home run every time no matter how alluring the prize might seem". Because despite the perceived price advantage the performances might not be up to snuff which means the meager outlay is still money wasted. Yes, I may have everything by composer X but if it's not listenable what's the point?
The downside to all this of course is I don't get everything all at once. But savoring a single imported chocolate candy can be just as fulfilling as eating an entire bag of Tootsie Rolls.
(And yes, the bottom line has ALWAYS been important to me. "Cultivating" a collectors' mentality also means sniffing out the bargains. The two aren't mutually exclusive!).
Post by: ammar on November 03, 2009, 12:09:26 PM
Grazioso - I remember seeing the DG set for 40 euros either on JPC or Amazon.de a while back, failed to 'pull the trigger' and now it's back up to 65 euros; I'd be grateful if you could direct me to your cheap source.
Don - I'm in general agreement & I would never suggest that a beginner start with any of these 'complete works' sets. That being said, a number of what I previously regarded as reference recordings have been matched/superseded by the contents of the Mozart Brilliant set. These complete issues also have their uses in unearthing previously hidden areas of repertoire (eg Haydn's Baryton Trios). Since this thread is ultimately about saving money, please feel free to warn us against purchasing any specific sets that you consider 'turkeys'
Just to keep us on topic , I think the set of Schubert Piano Sonatas by Uchida for £14 counts as a super-bargain (although I know she's a pianist that people have strong opinions about) :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000654OUG/
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 03, 2009, 08:41:46 PM
Since this thread is ultimately about saving money, please feel free to warn us against purchasing any specific sets that you consider 'turkeys'.
Well, thanks for the vote of confidence, ammar, but I'm just one cog in the GMG wheel where no one opinion rules all others. Some try, though! ;D
But since Brian seemed anxious for someone to splash him with some cold water I felt obliged to give it a try...what he does with my two cents is up to him... :)
Post by: Wanderer on November 04, 2009, 12:01:02 AM
Well, if you want to be talked out of it--but into something else :)--consider this complete Brahms edition from DG, which can be had cheaply if you hunt around:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kXnlJzA5L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Oh yes, that's absolutely worth your while.
Post by: Harry on November 04, 2009, 12:55:58 AM
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/The-Sixteen-The-Golden-Age-of-English-Polyphony/hnum/6575950
Post by: ammar on November 04, 2009, 03:29:43 AM
This I think is a bargain!
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/The-Sixteen-The-Golden-Age-of-English-Polyphony/hnum/6575950
I absolutely agree, I've had my eye on it since it came out. I see that it's included in the box set promotion that Hyperion are carrying out for the month of November - 20% off their largest box sets, all the bulk buying discounts still apply & free delivery (at least in the UK) :
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1022
I'm mulling over the 40 CD Schubert song set as we speak :-\
Post by: Opus106 on November 04, 2009, 05:45:04 AM
I absolutely agree, I've had my eye on it since it came out. I see that it's included in the box set promotion that Hyperion are carrying out for the month of November - 20% off their largest box sets, all the bulk buying discounts still apply & free delivery (at least in the UK) :
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1022
I'm mulling over the 40 CD Schubert song set as we speak :-\
Hyperion's boxes work out cheaper at Presto Classical's box sets offer.
http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/boxsets.php?k=11&w=Hyperion&page=1
And those in the U.K. get to pay a flat shipping fee for any order.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on November 04, 2009, 06:03:05 AM
.....But since Brian seemed anxious for someone to splash him with some cold water I felt obliged to give it a try...what he does with my two cents is up to him... :)
My guess? He'll apply it to the S & H..... :D
8)
Post by: ammar on November 04, 2009, 06:10:27 AM
(not to mention the warm glow you get from directly supporting an independent record label :))
Post by: Opus106 on November 04, 2009, 06:14:02 AM
(not to mention the warm glow you get from directly supporting an independent record label :))
Well then, that decides it. ;)
Post by: Frellie on November 04, 2009, 07:24:23 AM
And what a Beethoven-cycle this is! A must-have, a must-listen, a must-admire, as far as I'm concerned.
http://www.bis.se/index.php?op=album&aID=BIS-SACD-1825-26
(http://www.bis.se/images/covers/BIS-SACD-1825-26_72_150.jpg)
P.S. Just found out jpc.de sells the box for 35 eurobucks. Nice.
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/3675173
Post by: Renfield on November 04, 2009, 08:09:03 AM
I'm not sure about the Super-Duperness of this bargain, but I'm surely very happy with the appearance of this box (five cd's for the price of two!).
And what a Beethoven-cycle this is! A must-have, a must-listen, a must-admire, as far as I'm concerned.
http://www.bis.se/index.php?op=album&aID=BIS-SACD-1825-26
(http://www.bis.se/images/covers/BIS-SACD-1825-26_72_150.jpg)
Indeed! And if you'll excuse the marketing-talk, at £16.60 plus tax (£19.09 for us here), at MDT, there's no excuse. 8) ;)
Post by: Opus106 on November 04, 2009, 08:19:24 AM
(five cd's for the price of two!).
I chuckle every time I see one of BIS's "promotional statements." ;D Obviously, my idea of price of one is completely different from theirs.
Post by: Lethevich on November 04, 2009, 08:59:41 AM
Well at Presto I see the Schubert set for £140. It's listed as £144 on Hyperion's own site, but factor in the 25% discount for orders over £60 and it works out at £108. I don't see the Golden Age / Harry Christophers set listed on Presto either.
(not to mention the warm glow you get from directly supporting an independent record label :))
Run, don't walk. If you're a Schubert fan, that is every bit as much of a steal as Brilliant Classics' boxes - it's simply not being given away, and nor should it be :)
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 04, 2009, 09:04:39 AM
My guess? He'll apply it to the S & H..... :D
8)
My thoughts as well! ;D
Post by: Franco on November 04, 2009, 09:29:50 AM
:-\
Post by: ammar on November 04, 2009, 09:44:16 AM
Run, don't walk. If you're a Schubert fan, that is every bit as much of a steal as Brilliant Classics' boxes - it's simply not being given away, and nor should it be :)
Yes, this is the same sort of 'super-bargain' as BIS reissuing the Suzuki Bach Cantatas, as mentioned earlier in the thread. We are indeed fortunate that such towering achievements can be had for such a relatively meagre outlay.
Franco - commiserations, but be thankful that you weren't chasing down the individual Marcelle Meyer issues when EMI decided to reissue her complete recordings in a 17CD budget edition (I've seen some of her 'Introuvables' deletions fetch a ridiculous price on eBay).
(That's a great deal as well for Vanska's Beethoven from MDT, by the way)
Bankruptcy here I come... :D
Post by: Novi on November 04, 2009, 10:00:08 AM
I absolutely agree, I've had my eye on it since it came out. I see that it's included in the box set promotion that Hyperion are carrying out for the month of November - 20% off their largest box sets, all the bulk buying discounts still apply & free delivery (at least in the UK) :
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/o.asp?o=1022
I'm mulling over the 40 CD Schubert song set as we speak :-\
That does sound very enticing. I enjoy the handful of the separate issues that I have. I'll mull with you too...
Post by: Lethevich on November 04, 2009, 10:11:43 AM
I bought the Hyperion Schubert Lieder series individually, at probably over three times that cost. I also bought 7 or so of the Schumann set, and they've finsihed at 11, so I guess I'll get those remaining ones and compete that set - at full price as well.
:-\
It's people like you who keep labels like Hyperion alive, so you should be getting some über warm tingly feelings.
Post by: Frellie on November 04, 2009, 11:06:01 AM
Indeed! And if you'll excuse the marketing-talk, at £16.60 plus tax (£19.09 for us here), at MDT, there's no excuse. 8) ;)
Thanks for the advice!
I just ordered the box from this site.
No idea why there's such a big price difference, but hey, I'm not complaining... ;D
Post by: ammar on November 06, 2009, 05:26:48 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Complete-Various-Ltd-Box/dp/B001TH28EO/
Hurry, only 4 left (13:20 pm GMT) :o
Haven't dealt with findprice before, but if you navigate to their storefront on Amazon, they seem to be under the auspices of Online Commerce Ltd., who are also behind some medium sized UK online retailers (blahdvd.com , 101CD.com), so they should be trustworthy enough.
Must be something in the air with all these Brahms complete sets being sold off at bargain prices 8)
Post by: Novi on November 06, 2009, 06:08:14 AM
The Brahms Complete DG edition is now available from an Amazon.co.uk Marketplace seller for £18 :o
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Complete-Various-Ltd-Box/dp/B001TH28EO/
Hurry, only 4 left (13:20 pm GMT) :o
Haven't dealt with findprice before, but if you navigate to their storefront on Amazon, they seem to be under the auspices of Online Commerce Ltd., who are also behind some medium sized UK online retailers (blahdvd.com , 101CD.com), so they should be trustworthy enough.
Must be something in the air with all these Brahms complete sets being sold off at bargain prices 8)
Wow, thanks! I was about to buy the DG quartet/quintet/sextet box last week for about the same price.
You are a STAR! :-* :-* :-*
Post by: ammar on November 06, 2009, 06:23:07 AM
The same set is also available on Amazon.de from dvdcouk_de (probably another subsidiary of Online Commerce Ltd.) for 22 euros :
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001TH28EO/
I'm guessing that's limited stock too - here's hoping that our orders are honoured :)
All this after my Brahms Brilliant set arrived this morning from Abeille Musique. Coupled with the New Grove that I picked up last month, I think all my friends are expecting me to meet an Alkan-esque demise :o
Post by: George on November 06, 2009, 08:04:42 AM
The Brahms Complete DG edition is now available from an Amazon.co.uk Marketplace seller for £18 :o
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Complete-Various-Ltd-Box/dp/B001TH28EO/
Hurry, only 4 left (13:20 pm GMT) :o
Haven't dealt with findprice before, but if you navigate to their storefront on Amazon, they seem to be under the auspices of Online Commerce Ltd., who are also behind some medium sized UK online retailers (blahdvd.com , 101CD.com), so they should be trustworthy enough.
Must be something in the air with all these Brahms complete sets being sold off at bargain prices 8)
Important Message
* Brahms Complete Edition/Various (Ltd) (Box) cannot be shipped to the selected address.
:( :-[ :'( >:(
Post by: Elgarian on November 06, 2009, 08:12:54 AM
Available for a little more than £1 on Amazon UK marketplace, here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handel-Italian-Cantatas-George-Frederick/dp/B00009W3RL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1257521174&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handel-Italian-Cantatas-George-Frederick/dp/B00009W3RL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1257521174&sr=8-1)
Brief description of my first impressions, #706:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,2077.msg368448/topicseen.html#msg368448 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,2077.msg368448/topicseen.html#msg368448)
Post by: Orpheus on November 06, 2009, 12:05:36 PM
(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2005/Feb05/Beethoven_Szell_Sony.jpg)
Where looking for?
Thanks in advance!!! :)
Orpheus :D
Post by: Que on November 06, 2009, 12:31:43 PM
Hi all! I'd like to pick this box at a reasonable price...::)
(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2005/Feb05/Beethoven_Szell_Sony.jpg)
Where looking for?
Thanks in advance!!! :)
Orpheus :D
Well, I figured out why you posted it - this set is seriously OOP (out of print). ::)
I'll let you know if I come accross it, but I doubt it will be a super-duper cheap bargain... 8)
Q
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on November 06, 2009, 12:32:55 PM
Post by: Orpheus on November 06, 2009, 12:52:52 PM
The Szell set might be OOP but you can pick up individual discs of the symphonies and piano concerti cheaply.
I found these:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41sYgePrCtL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BOYpqD1pL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FA2N73CPL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Orpheus :)
Post by: ammar on November 06, 2009, 03:34:08 PM
The Szell set might be OOP but you can pick up individual discs of the symphonies and piano concerti cheaply.
cf.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oOIM1pPbL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HxvinxXNL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41m%2BR4-Gh3L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
All to be had at super-bargain prices (at least in the UK). The Essential Classics issue of the ninth is only £0.32 on Amazon.co.uk :)(http://)
Post by: Coopmv on November 06, 2009, 06:19:47 PM
Important Message
* Brahms Complete Edition/Various (Ltd) (Box) cannot be shipped to the selected address.
:( :-[ :'( >:(
US address?
Post by: George on November 06, 2009, 07:06:12 PM
US address?
Yes, I am still in the USA. :)
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 09, 2009, 02:37:03 PM
Hi guys, long time lurker here, thought I'd try and give a little back to the community for a change :)
I was browsing Amazon.fr marketplace and came across the 60CD Brahms set issued by Brilliant Classics for 20 euros , as sold by abeille musique :
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0012Y1J3K/
Also sold through their own site :
http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93554/5028421935546/Brilliant-Classics/Johannes-Brahms/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-29328.html
(For peace of mind, I can state that I've had a 100% success rate with them too - 1 CD ordered, 1 CD received ;) )
Ammar,
Many thanks for the "Heads up" on this Brahms set. Brahms is a composer, bar his big works and chamber music, well he is a composer whom I have very little music. 60cds for 20 Euro's is amazing. I ordered it on Friday morning and it came from France today (Monday morning) to the UK. First class service.
I also ordered the DG box set for £18, not sure if this one will surface.
Anyone got this at the bargain price...do keep us informed.
Post by: Papy Oli on November 09, 2009, 02:40:41 PM
Ordered the DG Friday evening as well (2 left at the time prior to my order) - got the automated confirmation of order, but no advice of despatch so far.
and thanks to Ammar for the heads up as well ! :D
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 09, 2009, 02:45:50 PM
Hi Tony
Ordered the DG Friday evening as well (2 left at the time prior to my order) - got the automated confirmation of order, but no advice of despatch so far.
and thanks to Ammar for the heads up as well ! :D
Evening Olivier,
Yes, my DG Brahms said 1 left when I ordered it. Usually I get a confirmation of order pinged back on the email or sorry and here's a refund, but none so far which I hope means the set is on the way.
Did you buy one of the Brill Box sets too? It looks a good buy for those of us, namely myself who are a little shy on Brahms' music, even if I have 30 versions or so of the violin concerto and umpteen symphonic and piano concerto cycles ;D So much new music to discover.
Post by: knight66 on November 09, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
Mike
Post by: Papy Oli on November 09, 2009, 02:52:06 PM
I only have one set of symphonies, 1 VC, 2 requiems and the piano ballades....so the DG set would be a welcome addition for me to discover more as well ! ;D
hopefully it is a case of a reseller not necessarily informing of despatches.....
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 09, 2009, 02:53:58 PM
Ah, wait until you get to the chamber music, Clarinet Quintet, the two Cello sonatas....the Sextet! Bliss.
Mike,
I do have the Raphael Ens, Sextet ;D Beautiful. Along with the Cello Sonatas, violin sonatas etc, Also, many versions of the Requiem. Apart from that, its appears....a real treasure trove and at least 45-50cds of new music.
Post by: knight66 on November 09, 2009, 03:39:08 PM
Mike
Post by: Novi on November 10, 2009, 07:03:37 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fdXfH%2Bv3L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Available for a little more than £1 on Amazon UK marketplace, here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handel-Italian-Cantatas-George-Frederick/dp/B00009W3RL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1257521174&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Handel-Italian-Cantatas-George-Frederick/dp/B00009W3RL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1257521174&sr=8-1)
Brief description of my first impressions, #706:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,2077.msg368448/topicseen.html#msg368448 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,2077.msg368448/topicseen.html#msg368448)
Thanks for the link and the review, Elgarian. I've never heard any of Handel's cantatas so I picked one up. Can't go wrong for the price of a coffee. :D
Post by: Elgarian on November 10, 2009, 08:39:49 AM
I've never heard any of Handel's cantatas so I picked one up. Can't go wrong for the price of a coffee. :D
When it arrives, you could do worse than start with the first cantata on CD2: Notte placida e cheta [Peaceful and quiet night]. The first aria (track 2) may have you hooked after only one listening:
Come zephyrs, only you,
Gentle murmuring breezes,
Can cause sweet sleep
To enter my breast.
But as you say, you can't go wrong. There are delights scattered all over these discs.
Post by: ammar on November 10, 2009, 12:41:52 PM
Ammar,
Many thanks for the "Heads up" on this Brahms set. Brahms is a composer, bar his big works and chamber music, well he is a composer whom I have very little music. 60cds for 20 Euro's is amazing. I ordered it on Friday morning and it came from France today (Monday morning) to the UK. First class service.
I also ordered the DG box set for £18, not sure if this one will surface.
Anyone got this at the bargain price...do keep us informed.
I envy you your voyage of discovery, AA :)
I had a similar experience with Brahms, falling in love with the concerti and 3rd & 4th Symphonies at a young age, but was a relative latecomer to the glorious chamber and piano music. Mind you, I have some friends that absolutely despise his music - hence the old joke that the doors in an auditorium were sometimes labeled 'exit in case of Brahms' ! >:(
My Brilliant set arrived safe and sound last week, and the discs that I've listened to so far (mainly the piano music) have been excellent - not 'great for the price', just 'great' full-stop. I haven't acquired the semi-legendary Julius Katchen set on Decca yet, but the Brilliant set bears favourable comparison with my other Brahms piano CDs (featuring all the usual big-guns - Kovacevich , Lupu , etc.).
As for the DG set, I received an order confirmation on Friday but nothing more. I believe that the seller must e-mail a 'dispatch notification' before Amazon.co.uk will debit the funds from your account, so like my fellow purchasers I remain in a state of limbo.
At least the order hasn't been cancelled outright (yet). Watch this space... :)
Post by: Benji on November 11, 2009, 04:24:21 PM
http://www.theclassicalshop.net/details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%2010122 (http://www.theclassicalshop.net/details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%2010122)
Post by: The new erato on November 13, 2009, 04:56:35 AM
Post by: listener on November 13, 2009, 10:03:56 AM
ARG is mildly enthusiastic about the set, but agrees good for the price.
Post by: Papy Oli on November 13, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
Anyone got this at the bargain price...do keep us informed.
Re the Brahms DG box, got two emails late this afternoon :
- Amazon UK confirming despatch of the Brahms box from the reseller
- the Reseller also confirming despatch
but...
the reseller, although quoting the right amazon order ref, is advising he is sending a Bellini/Norma CD and quoting a different reseller name in the email title....so God knows what happened there...No quite Brahmsian, is it... ::)
I have emailed them back asking to check and advise...we shall see... :-\
Post by: ammar on November 13, 2009, 11:30:37 AM
If they've already dispatched the order, there's nothing they can do to rectify it at the moment - rest assured, if it's not the Brahms set, it's going back :( (unless of course it's an ultra rare, previously unreleased performance featuring Callas in the title roll :)).
Post by: Papy Oli on November 13, 2009, 11:40:31 AM
how strange that you got those as well... reassuring to an extent i guess... it could indeed be an automated database typo.. 8)
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 13, 2009, 04:02:24 PM
Re the Brahms DG box, got two emails late this afternoon :
- Amazon UK confirming despatch of the Brahms box from the reseller
- the Reseller also confirming despatch
Olivier, Ammar,
Hahahahaha, classic. I have just arrived home from work and checked my email and lo and behold email #1 tells me of Bellini and the other #2 tells me of Brahms.
I will check how much £££'s have come out of my account and wait to see what arrives.
I will keep you both informed, and let me know how you go ;D
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 14, 2009, 05:08:30 PM
Sibelius_Sanderling (http://www.amazon.co.uk/7-Symphonies-Sanderling-Berlin-So/dp/B0000035OJ/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1258246838&sr=8-12)
A few suppliers, Stateside from £3 to £4. Down from the UK price of £25+
Post by: Maciek on November 16, 2009, 05:15:48 AM
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Herbert-von-Karajan-Complete-EMI-Recordings-Opera-Vocal/hnum/1815685 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Herbert-von-Karajan-Complete-EMI-Recordings-Opera-Vocal/hnum/1815685)
Post by: Papy Oli on November 16, 2009, 07:10:18 AM
I have just arrived home from work and checked my email and lo and behold email #1 tells me of Bellini and the other #2 tells me of Brahms.
Got a reply from the supplier - Looks I'll be getting the Norma :-\ ... the Brahms DG box is not an item they list and they claim it is an incorrect listing under that number at Amazon... I am given the possibility to return the CD freepost when i get it for refund.... damn..
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 16, 2009, 07:56:16 AM
Got a reply from the supplier - Looks I'll be getting the Norma :-\ ... the Brahms DG box is not an item they list and they claim it is an incorrect listing under that number at Amazon... I am given the possibility to return the CD freepost when i get it for refund.... damn..
That's a shame Olivier,
I will have a look at the set and more likely than not send it back. There will more likely than not be a returns slip inside, just a case of watching the bank/card statement for the refund.
Will let you know what happens.
Happy I bought the Brill Box Brahms set now :D
Post by: Papy Oli on November 16, 2009, 12:19:44 PM
i might consider keeping it then to explore....unless we get charged something silly of course...
EDIT : judging by the reference number in the supplier's email 4778186 , it looks like i will receive this one :
http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/DG/4778186 (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/DG/4778186)
is it any good ? ???
Post by: ammar on November 16, 2009, 03:05:14 PM
* It's Bellini's Norma conducted by Levine on DG >:( *
I contacted Findprice and was told that, according to their records, 'this was the item that I ordered' >:( >:(
Anyway, I've sent it back (cellophane intact) to their returns department and they're happy to refund it (I tried pushing for a replacement Brahms set but, surprisingly enough, they don't have any in stock). Was it too good to be true? well, I've had my own share of good luck in the past when dealing with Amazon marketplace sellers (Kondrashin's Shostakovich cycle on Melodiya for £5, Goodall's Ring cycle on Chandos for £10, Nikolayeva's Beethoven set on Scribendum for £8, etc) that I 'never look a gift horse in the mouth' - I would have made a terrible Trojan!. At least this little debacle will have provided a modicum of pleasure to those onlookers who failed to take advantage of the 'bargain' on offer ::)
Olivier - Norma is a classic Bel Canto (can belto? ;) ) opera, well worth acquiring even for non-opera buffs, but you can pick up one of Callas' legendary recordings for around half the price of the Levine set. I'm not even sure if a libretto is included in the DG box, I was in such a hurry to repackage it and send it back that I forgot to check!
Just to keep this thread on topic: I've been filling out my collection of Handel's Operas / Oratorios (as I'm sure have many of my fellow GMGers) and came across a couple of fine offers -
HMV (big UK music retailer, not as classically orientated now as in the era of shellac 78rpms ;) ) are offering all of Hyperion's opera/oratorio recordings for £11.99 delivered including the three disc sets - Ottone and Joseph & His Brethren. All of the two disc sets can be had through Zavvi or The Hut for £10 delivered:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21VX6THQNCL._SL500_AA130_.jpg)
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=392734
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21WP5R8FVEL._SL500_AA130_.jpg)
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=668680
Zavvi - http://www.zavvi.com/home.dept
thehut - http://www.thehut.com/home.dept
Post by: Papy Oli on November 16, 2009, 03:18:36 PM
Well, a package arrived for me in the post today and sure enough...
* It's Bellini's Norma conducted by Levine on DG >:( *
I contacted Findprice and was told that, according to their records, 'this was the item that I ordered' >:( >:(
Anyway, I've sent it back (cellophane intact) to their returns department and they're happy to refund it (I tried pushing for a replacement Brahms set but, surprisingly enough, they don't have any in stock). Was it too good to be true?
....
Olivier - Norma is a classic Bel Canto (can belto? ;) ) opera, well worth acquiring even for non-opera buffs, but you can pick up one of Callas' legendary recordings for around half the price of the Levine set. I'm not even sure if a libretto is included in the DG box, I was in such a hurry to repackage it and send it back that I forgot to check!
ah well, it was worth a shot 8)
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on November 17, 2009, 07:36:40 AM
JPC has the EMI Karajan opera box (72 CDs) for 60 euros:I got that set brand new for 60 USD ;D
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Herbert-von-Karajan-Complete-EMI-Recordings-Opera-Vocal/hnum/1815685 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Herbert-von-Karajan-Complete-EMI-Recordings-Opera-Vocal/hnum/1815685)
Not that I have cracked it open yet. That seems to be the problem with these mega sets, I have a bunch of them and none of them I have listened to. Maybe 20 years from now when they are really OOP I can ebay them and sell them for a nifty profit.
Post by: The new erato on November 17, 2009, 08:17:06 AM
I got that set brand new for 60 USD ;DIn 20 years all mobile phones will come loaded with lossless copies of all classical music - ever - for a few dollars. OK; I exaggerate, but your market will be very small, and prices will be rock bottom. Maybe you will be able to find somebody rich and desperate for physical emdia, but I doubt it. The best reason to buy some of these sets, are that we may be the last generation that wants them and in a few years they will therefore not be available.
Not that I have cracked it open yet. That seems to be the problem with these mega sets, I have a bunch of them and none of them I have listened to. Maybe 20 years from now when they are really OOP I can ebay them and sell them for a nifty profit.
Post by: Martin Lind on November 17, 2009, 05:57:20 PM
Bargain is of course not only "cheap" but all these things which I mentioned are of high quality and very recommendable.
Regards
Martin
Regards
Martin
Post by: Maciek on November 17, 2009, 11:49:41 PM
I got that set brand new for 60 USD ;D
Well, thanks for letting us know now... ::) ;D
Anyway, assuming you got it from amazon-marketplace: that source is available to a staggering 25 countries of the world. Which means that a vast majority of countries is not included... (One of the reasons why I try to snub amazon whenever I can.) JPC, OTOH, ships (almost?) everywhere. :)
Post by: Opus106 on November 18, 2009, 08:59:31 AM
JPC, OTOH, ships (almost?) everywhere. :)
For a ridiculous price if I'm not buying a HUGE amount of CDs. On the other hand, I have never had Amazon ship things to me directly... that would have cost quite a bit, too. But I was once informed via e-mail that JPC does not ship to India. (Yet the still say otherwise on the site.)
Post by: Maciek on November 18, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
[Here (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,15230.msg371725.html) it is.]
Post by: Opus106 on November 18, 2009, 10:26:03 AM
You live in India?
I guess I must make use of the new location field in my profile. 0:)
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Anyway, a whole different topic here (ridiculous shipping charges), one I love to grumble about. So I guess I'll start a new diner thread in a sec. >:D 0:)
I believe we already have a place (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,1914) for that. :)
Post by: Maciek on November 18, 2009, 10:31:05 AM
I believe we already have a place (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,1914) for that. :)
Not specific enough for me! >:D >:D >:D
Post by: Opus106 on November 18, 2009, 10:33:28 AM
Not specific enough for me! >:D >:D >:D
Ah. Rant away, then. ;D
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 23, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Am I wrong or Don has highly praised this version?
Das Wohltemperierte Klavier 1 & 2
4 CDs
Release date: 25.7.2005
Rosalyn Tureck, Klavier
Label: Documents , ADD/m, 1952
EUR 5,99 on JPC (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Johann-Sebastian-Bach-Das-Wohltemperierte-Klavier-1-2/hnum/2940535)
Post by: Renfield on November 24, 2009, 05:07:20 AM
Apparently this is a bargain for all true pianophile. :D
Am I wrong or Don has highly praised this version?
Das Wohltemperierte Klavier 1 & 2
4 CDs
Release date: 25.7.2005
Rosalyn Tureck, Klavier
Label: Documents , ADD/m, 1952
EUR 5,99 on JPC (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Johann-Sebastian-Bach-Das-Wohltemperierte-Klavier-1-2/hnum/2940535)
The word in bold alone would have been enough to instantly and decidedly dissuade me, even if I didn't already own the DG version.
'Documents' issues have the worst - repeat, the worst - sound I have ever heard for historical recordings of any age.
And that's including the Beethoven 5th by Nikisch (1913). Don't do this to yourself. :P
Post by: The new erato on November 24, 2009, 05:17:02 AM
The word in bold alone would have been enough to instantly and decidedly dissuade me, even if I didn't already own the DG version.Depends upon the source of course. The Bach Walcha mono set was fine, the Smetana set includes som really horrible things, like radio broadcasts taped upon what sounds like home recorders from a badly tuned radio set. Cheap, but be very sceptical.
'Documents' issues have the worst - repeat, the worst - sound I have ever heard for historical recordings of any age.
And that's including the Beethoven 5th by Nikisch (1913). Don't do this to yourself. :P
Post by: Renfield on November 24, 2009, 05:20:39 AM
really horrible things, like radio broadcasts taped upon what sounds like home recorders from a badly tuned radio set.
That's my experience.
Post by: George on November 24, 2009, 06:05:58 AM
'Documents' issues have the worst - repeat, the worst - sound I have ever heard for historical recordings of any age.
My theory is that they pirate other people's transfers and then improve/ruin them with their own remastering.
Post by: Renfield on November 24, 2009, 07:55:34 AM
My theory is that they pirate other people's pirate transfers and then improve/ruin them with their own remastering.
;) >:D
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 24, 2009, 11:01:18 AM
Depends upon the source of course.
This is very true. A pirate can only be as good as the source they're stealing from. If they're smart enough to leave the original source alone sometimes - sometimes - the sound can be OK. I'm thinking particularly of that brownish-gray Documents box (one of two volumes) devoted to Michelangeli. The SOURCE had good sound to begin with (Aura/Ermitage - pirates in their own right - from Italian Radio) and apparently Documents simply did a straight transfer and everything turned out fine. Not that this is the norm by any stretch. But sometimes - sometimes - you get lucky.
Though not often. :P
Post by: MN Dave on November 24, 2009, 11:02:13 AM
This is very true. A pirate can only be as good as the source they're stealing from. If they're smart enough to leave the original source alone sometimes - sometimes - the sound can be OK. I'm thinking particularly of that brownish-gray Documents box (one of two volumes) devoted to Michelangeli. The SOURCE had good sound to begin with (Aura/Ermitage - pirates in their own right - from Italian Radio) and apparently Documents simply did a straight transfer and everything turned out fine. Not that this is the norm by any stretch. But sometimes - sometimes - you get lucky.
Though not often. :P
Documents is a pirate label?
Post by: karlhenning on November 24, 2009, 11:13:56 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 24, 2009, 11:28:27 AM
Documents is a pirate label?
It's hard to know where to draw the line. The lone Documents box I have (Michelangeli) has apparently licensed their material from Aura, formerly Ermitage. Both Aura and Ermitage are known pirates. So by extension I'd say Documents is a pirate.
Unfortunately sorting out all this mess - as far as pirates - is next to impossible. Many pirates exist simply by exploiting lax copyright laws in one country: Italy (at least last I heard). What the pirates are doing is "wrong", yes, but in the eyes of Italian law nothing is "illegal".
So pirates simply use Italy as their "home base" and distribute from there and have no fear of reprisals. They can get away with it mainly because funds available from, say, the Michelangeli estate, or the Furtwängler estate, or whatever small label is being pirated, simply aren't enough to effectively challenge EVERY pirate release.
And so the pirates thrive.
I've never researched just WHAT laws the pirates exploit or exactly WHY Italy hasn't moved to eradicate these practices but there's no denying it's a business model that somehow works.
Post by: George on November 24, 2009, 12:32:14 PM
This is very true. A pirate can only be as good as the source they're stealing from. If they're smart enough to leave the original source alone sometimes - sometimes - the sound can be OK.
I think the reason they remaster the CDs is to disguise the source that they are stealing from.
Post by: The new erato on November 24, 2009, 12:35:29 PM
I think the reason they remaster the CDs is to disguise the source that they are stealing from.So that means that they are smarter than Hatto's husband?
Post by: George on November 24, 2009, 12:46:37 PM
So that means that they are smarter than Hatto's husband?
I thought that he did try to disguise his forgeries?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 24, 2009, 02:38:41 PM
I think the reason they remaster the CDs is to disguise the source that they are stealing from.
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. Or they're just inept with little of the state-of-the-art equipment needed to do an adequate job. Probably lots of variables...
Post by: The new erato on November 24, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
I thought that he did try to disguise his forgeries?Yes but he didn't succed. No revelations about Document's eventual scam as of yet anyway.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 24, 2009, 04:44:11 PM
Post by: Coopmv on November 24, 2009, 07:08:22 PM
I do not know the legal status of the recordings re-released by Documents, but in almost every legal system it is a calumny to impute “theft” or “robbery” to somebody if you do not have proofs to support your sayings. Besides, it is necessary to recall that some old recordings can be in the public domain; therefore, it does not exist something like theft, when you use those recordings. I do not know if it is the case with Documents. Finally, I am not a fan of historical recordings, but I have the Walcha’s set on Documents and, I must say, it is -even sonically- an excellent box set. :)
Have you read about the Brazilian government wanted to manufacture drugs whose patents are owned by US pharmaceutical companies? I was outraged when I read such news. How about piracy in China where 90% of its PC's run illegal copies of MS OS only a few years ago ...
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 25, 2009, 02:14:32 AM
Have you read about the Brazilian government wanted to manufacture drugs whose patents are owned by US pharmaceutical companies? I was outraged when I read such news. How about piracy in China where 90% of its PC's run illegal copies of MS OS only a few years ago ...
Yep, piracy exists, everybody knows that, no? But as any other crime, it must be proved. Mere unfounded suspicions or assertions are not enough.
Post by: Renfield on November 25, 2009, 05:49:21 AM
Finally, I am not a fan of historical recordings, but I have the Walcha’s set on Documents and, I must say, it is -even sonically- an excellent box set. :)
The question is, though, have you compared it to its
There really isn't such a thing as an inherently bad recording, strictly speaking.
Post by: George on November 25, 2009, 05:56:00 AM
There really isn't such a thing as an inherently bad recording, strictly speaking.
You obviously aren't a fan of the Kinks or Procol Harum. ;)
Post by: Renfield on November 25, 2009, 06:05:45 AM
You obviously aren't a fan of the Kinks or Procol Harum. ;)
Nope. :P
But I bet if anyone is, on this forum, you'll soon hear from them. >:D
Post by: Elgarian on November 25, 2009, 01:44:46 PM
*Next day addition: Please note - this situation described above seems to have been a false alarm brought about by site maintenance. The usual free postage has now been restored.
Post by: The new erato on November 25, 2009, 01:52:50 PM
Looks like the end of an era. I checked the Hyperion 'Please Buy me' sale today, popped something into my basket and went to the checkout - to discover that, instead of the usual free postage, a whopping great £4.40 postage was added to the total. Which is understandable of course, except that it pretty well eliminates the whole bargain deal, really, unless you're buying lots of CDs. (Alas, usually there's a maximum of one in the bargain dump that I want). So that brings to an end my regular monitoring of the website every 2 or 3 days. It was good while it lasted!Then you might as well buy them on mdt which charges 8.30 VATfree pounds, with P&P it comes to about the same and you can buy what you want not restricted to the few discs on offer. Something strange happende on hyperion's site; the previous offer was on for about 1 day, then it went down for nearly a day for maintenance and now this. I'm holding my breath and hoping this is a snafu..., certainly they will soon discover that they might as well drop the offer on the current terms.
Post by: Novi on November 25, 2009, 01:54:04 PM
Looks like the end of an era. I checked the Hyperion 'Please Buy me' sale today, popped something into my basket and went to the checkout - to discover that, instead of the usual free postage, a whopping great £4.40 postage was added to the total. Which is understandable of course, except that it pretty well eliminates the whole bargain deal, really, unless you're buying lots of CDs. (Alas, usually there's a maximum of one in the bargain dump that I want). So that brings to an end my regular monitoring of the website every 2 or 3 days. It was good while it lasted!
Are you sure? I just tested it and it's still free. Maybe try again? ???
Incidentally, does anyone know if the Leslie Howard Beethoven are transcriptions any good?
(This is a 3 disc item, but I also tested it with a single £5.60 item, and delivery was still free)
Post by: Coopmv on November 25, 2009, 07:06:11 PM
Yep, piracy exists, everybody knows that, no? But as any other crime, it must be proved. Mere unfounded suspicions or assertions are not enough.
Piracy is like illicit drugs, they have a market ONLY because there are consumers. I have never owned any pirated CD's or DVD's.
Post by: Coopmv on November 25, 2009, 07:30:46 PM
Looks like the end of an era. I checked the Hyperion 'Please Buy me' sale today, popped something into my basket and went to the checkout - to discover that, instead of the usual free postage, a whopping great £4.40 postage was added to the total. Which is understandable of course, except that it pretty well eliminates the whole bargain deal, really, unless you're buying lots of CDs. (Alas, usually there's a maximum of one in the bargain dump that I want). So that brings to an end my regular monitoring of the website every 2 or 3 days. It was good while it lasted!
The sales at MDT of many EMI boxes just ended yesterday. The hefty postage was what deterred me from getting more boxes. While the prices of the boxes were great, but at 75 pence per CD and a weak dollar, I was not a happy camper when I saw P&P of over £15. The savings just got whittled down by the postage big-time ... >:(
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 25, 2009, 11:38:12 PM
The question is, though, have you compared it to itsofficialDG release? :)
...
No, I don’t own the DG edition, therefore, I can’t compare; but I have taken some points of previous discussions on the forum, especially the opinions by people like Premont, who has expressed his favorable appraisal about this set in different opportunities:
http://www.membran.net/
What's your opinion on this label? It has some very good recordings on budget price.
For example, Helmut Walcha playing Bach's music for organ (10CD's). Is it the same recording as the one by Archiv music? Any differences maybe on the quality of the sound?
Also Karajan conducting Bach's Mass in B minor (1952). That recording is also availiable by EMI.
The Walcha set is the Archiv mono recordings from 1947-52. With a tad ambience tastefully added. A real bargain.
Available in Norway for 13 USD. Of course I've bought it some time ago.
Probably transfers from LP, which is legal because the recordings are out of copyright (in Europe).
Can't imagine that DG licensed and gave access to the original recordings.
Q
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 25, 2009, 11:55:13 PM
Piracy is like illicit drugs, they have a market ONLY because there are consumers. I have never owned any pirated CD's or DVD's.
It is really hard to try to follow any logical argumentation with you Coop. You only seem interested in your usual sweeping generalizations, without any specific relation with the discussed issues. ::)
Post by: Elgarian on November 26, 2009, 01:02:28 AM
Are you sure? I just tested it and it's still free. Maybe try again? ???
You're right! I just went ahead and completed my purchase, post-free. Thanks for pointing this out.
It looks as though I must have visited the site when some maintenance was going on - or maybe they hadn't restored the site correctly, as erato suggests above. Anyway, it's now back to bargain business as usual.
Post by: The new erato on November 26, 2009, 01:24:52 AM
You're right! I just went ahead and completed my purchase, post-free. Thanks for pointing this out.Not much of interest there just now, unfortunately. I planned on buying Hamelin's Villa-Lobos disc, but that list was withdrawn after about one day, due to the maintenance I mentioned. What I'm really following is the series of Schumann's songs (where I've secured two volumes so far)....
It looks as though I must have visited the site when some maintenance was going on - or maybe they hadn't restored the site correctly, as erato suggests above. Anyway, it's now back to bargain business as usual.
Post by: Harry on November 26, 2009, 01:33:36 AM
It is really hard to try to follow any logical argumentation with you Coop. You only seem interested in your usual sweeping generalizations, without any specific relation with the discussed issues. ::)
I cannot get out of the thought that Coop is using GMG as a personal blog, because he only tells us what he is playing, without telling us what he thinks of it, but then again many do. :)
Post by: The new erato on November 26, 2009, 03:14:02 AM
You're right! I just went ahead and completed my purchase, post-free. Thanks for pointing this out.It seems like they've added extensive download options that weren't there before?
It looks as though I must have visited the site when some maintenance was going on - or maybe they hadn't restored the site correctly, as erato suggests above. Anyway, it's now back to bargain business as usual.
Post by: Elgarian on November 26, 2009, 03:54:36 AM
Not much of interest there just now, unfortunately. I planned on buying Hamelin's Villa-Lobos disc, but that list was withdrawn after about one day, due to the maintenance I mentioned. What I'm really following is the series of Schumann's songs (where I've secured two volumes so far)....
There's a good chance your Villa-Lobos disc will turn up again. I've noticed that some titles keep coming around several times.
Post by: Coopmv on November 26, 2009, 05:01:18 AM
It is really hard to try to follow any logical argumentation with you Coop. You only seem interested in your usual sweeping generalizations, without any specific relation with the discussed issues. ::)
What logical explanation is needed on this issue of piracy? It is a no-brainer and an economic issue. There is piracy in the US too but it is not as rampant as in the so-called third-world countries. Perhaps my statement was offensive to some of you who live outside western Europe or the US?
Post by: Coopmv on November 26, 2009, 05:16:37 AM
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. Or they're just inept with little of the state-of-the-art equipment needed to do an adequate job. Probably lots of variables...
What about the quality of the playback equipments? If people play their CD's on crappy systems, they will never get the best out of their CD's anyway.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 26, 2009, 05:37:54 AM
What logical explanation is needed on this issue of piracy? It is a no-brainer and an economic issue. There is piracy in the US too but it is not as rampant as in the so-called third-world countries. Perhaps my statement was offensive to some of you who live outside western Europe or the US?
Do you really understand anything about the last posts? This discussion was about Walcha’s set on Documents (10 CDs), which it is sold in all major stores of the world and distributed by Membran Records, a German label.
Post by: Coopmv on November 26, 2009, 05:42:00 AM
Do you really understand anything about the last posts? This discussion was about Walcha’s set on Documents (10 CDs), which it is sold in all major stores of the world and distributed by Membran Records, a German label.
Absolutely, I have owned these two sets for a while. May I remind you you were the one who strayed off the topic to talk about priracy and I just responded. Was there anything wrong with that?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 26, 2009, 05:59:11 AM
Post by: Coopmv on November 26, 2009, 06:07:32 AM
Wrong again. Apparently you can not search by yourself, but if you read replies 273, 275, 276, 278, 279, 280, 281 and 284 on this thread, you will see that all of them are about Documents as a supposed pirate label.
Listen, I have better ways to waste my time than being the unpaid GMG archivist to search through voluminous posts to determine if I own a pirate copy of ONE recording. I am not bothered if I have one pirated copy out of 8000 classical recordings. At least I bought the set from some Amazon vendor and not off the street, and Amazon is supposed to do the necessary vetting for items sold on its Market Place. Be my guest if you have more time to undertake this detective work ...
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 26, 2009, 06:15:07 AM
Listen, I have better ways to waste my time than being the unpaid GMG archivist to search through voluminous posts to determine if I own a pirate copy of ONE recording...
Yes, I know. You waste your time preparing your informative posts: Now playing CD5 of this set, now playing CD42 of this set and so ad nauseam.
Post by: Coopmv on November 26, 2009, 06:22:57 AM
Yes, I know. You waste your time preparing your informative posts: Now playing CD5 of this set, now playing CD42 of this set and so ad nauseam.
There are only one or two people on the forum whose opinions I value and you are not one of them and I will not divulge the identity of those individuals either. All I care to get out from this forum is what I might have overlooked in terms of potentially good recordings. I do not care to read any detailed reviews from anyone, period.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 26, 2009, 06:35:12 AM
There are only one or two people on the forum whose opinions I value and you are not one of them and I will not divulge the identity of those individuals either...
... for the posterity. :) 8)
Post by: Renfield on November 26, 2009, 07:06:09 AM
Nor is there a rule specifying posters need offer particular information of any sort; e.g. reviews. The only rule, and this is still unwritten, is that members' posts outside the Diner need have some sort of tangential relation to classical music.
If some of you, whose opinions I would readily hear and respect, believe any such respect is conditional to your not expressing contentious views, then I invite you to revise that belief. I know this discussion was also pertinent previously, when M - a consistent source of contentious views - was not yet banned, and so a lot of arguments people could raise against certain views being permissible might be pulled from that context. But do note that contrary to M, Coopmv is not attacking anyone.
He is just making a series of passive, however contentious, statements, many of which are generalisations; like saying "Lang Lang is a bad pianist" is a generalisation, to which I don't see many of you objecting. And even if you disagree with his views, you do your own views and (hopefully) counter-arguments no justice by drowning them in knee-jerk ad hominem.
For the record, I don't select my purchases based on Coopmv's criteria. I select them based on my criteria. As does he. ;)
Edit: And there are also far fewer people in this forum whose recording-related opinions I value, in the sense that they can effectively sway my purchasing decisions, than there are posters. I fail to see where this is shocking.
Post by: Harry on November 26, 2009, 07:07:07 AM
There are only one or two people on the forum whose opinions I value and you are not one of them and I will not divulge the identity of those individuals either. All I care to get out from this forum is what I might have overlooked in terms of potentially good recordings. I do not care to read any detailed reviews from anyone, period.
Coop, lets be honest my friend, Antoine is right, you are using this forum only as your personal blog, thats fine with me, but we learn nothing from you about the hundreds and hundreds of cd's you play. And this is to be a forum to discuss music and communicate, your strong in the first, rather weak in the other. No offense meant by the way.
Post by: Maciek on November 26, 2009, 07:21:30 AM
[If anyone has an urgent super-duper bargain to post, please PM me.]
Post by: knight66 on November 26, 2009, 12:20:41 PM
Knight
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on November 26, 2009, 12:24:53 PM
I hope the shocking weather, at least here, has succeeded in cooling the wider atmosphere and I take pleasure in now unlocking the thread.
Knight
I was rather enjoying that bit of banter above Mike, as I sit here at work awaiting 9pm. So as not to be off topic, I am also surfing away like mad, looking for those super duper bargains.
Not found any yet :(
Post by: Elgarian on November 26, 2009, 01:16:26 PM
It seems like they've added extensive download options that weren't there before?
Yes - though I'm a sufficently antedeluvian physical media music buyer not to be drawn in.
My choice this time, incidentally, was Boughton's The Immortal Hour. Even after listening to all the samples I couldn't decide if it was my sort of thing, so decided it was worth risking £5.60 on, for 2CDs. That kind of celtic twilight mystical thing ought to get under my guard, I'd have thought. But then, I always used to think I was an 'English music' fan, but actually I've discovered that I'm such a picky English music fan that I don't think I really qualify as one at all.)
There's yet another new batch on offer at Hyperion now, by the way.
Post by: jimmosk on November 26, 2009, 02:25:59 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Glazunov-The-Complete-Symphony-Collection/dp/B001NBNR7S?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&tag=goodmusicguideco&link_code=hom&*entries*=0 (http://www.amazon.com/Glazunov-The-Complete-Symphony-Collection/dp/B001NBNR7S?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&tag=goodmusicguideco&link_code=hom&*entries*=0)
Post by: The new erato on November 26, 2009, 02:43:51 PM
Yes, the Prateroius disc (not Michael) is slightly tempting.
There's yet another new batch on offer at Hyperion now, by the way.
Post by: jimmosk on November 26, 2009, 05:32:33 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Works-Igor-Stravinsky-Box-Set/dp/B000PTYUQG?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&tag=goodmusicguideco&link_code=hom&*entries*=0 (http://www.amazon.com/Works-Igor-Stravinsky-Box-Set/dp/B000PTYUQG)
This is the 22-CD Sony box set of Stravinsky (and Robert Craft) conducting most of his own works, mentioned in passing way back on page 1 of this thread. It's currently available for $32. Here's a list of all ninety-five pieces on it: http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=175079 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=175079)
Post by: Harry on November 27, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-S%E4mtliche-Sonaten-f%FCr-Violine-Klavier/hnum/4393193
Question: Could this thread be a stickie, its important enough! Thanks
Post by: knight66 on November 27, 2009, 10:10:24 AM
Knight
Post by: Harry on November 27, 2009, 12:02:26 PM
Harry, We have had several adverse comments about the number of stickies at the top of the rooms. We decided not to increase the number. If it remains a popular thread, it will keep rising to the top.
Knight
Understood, thanks for answering. :)
Post by: Gurn Blanston on November 27, 2009, 12:55:49 PM
If this isn't a bargain I don't know what is!
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-S%E4mtliche-Sonaten-f%FCr-Violine-Klavier/hnum/4393193
Question: Could this thread be a stickie, its important enough! Thanks
Wow! Damned if it isn't! 10€ vs $72US over here. I know the $$ is weak right now, but... :)
8)
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Listening to:
Derek Adlam - Clavichord - Hob 16 29 Sonata in F for Keyboard 2nd mvmt - Adagio
Post by: Elgarian on November 27, 2009, 01:40:21 PM
If this isn't a bargain I don't know what is!
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-S%E4mtliche-Sonaten-f%FCr-Violine-Klavier/hnum/4393193
That looked so tempting, Harry, that I dived in head first ... but I'd never used JPC before, and it took me so long to get through the maze of creating an account, with some information being given in English, some in German (with confirmatory emails being sent in German so I couldn't understand them); and then having created this account, I wasn't at all convinced that my address was recorded correctly, since their system seemed to put everything in a strange order. Finally I was anticipating so many potential translational problems in the future if something wasn't right, that it simply didn't seem worth the bother in order to save a bit of money. So I chose not to complete the purchase after all, and sent a message asking them to delete my newly created account instead. I feel curiously deflated as a result!
Post by: Harry on November 27, 2009, 04:04:59 PM
That looked so tempting, Harry, that I dived in head first ... but I'd never used JPC before, and it took me so long to get through the maze of creating an account, with some information being given in English, some in German (with confirmatory emails being sent in German so I couldn't understand them); and then having created this account, I wasn't at all convinced that my address was recorded correctly, since their system seemed to put everything in a strange order. Finally I was anticipating so many potential translational problems in the future if something wasn't right, that it simply didn't seem worth the bother in order to save a bit of money. So I chose not to complete the purchase after all, and sent a message asking them to delete my newly created account instead. I feel curiously deflated as a result!
Send me a PM. I will help you with it, its terribly easy you know, but then my German is up to scratch. :)
Post by: Sorin Eushayson on November 28, 2009, 09:53:39 AM
10€ vs $72US over here.
Actually, that was forty minutes ago that you posted that, so it's around $87 now. ;)
Post by: Harry on November 28, 2009, 10:03:05 AM
Actually, that was forty minutes ago that you posted that, so it's around $87 now. ;)
Uhuh, and still 9,99 in Europe, it did not change in four days, and I tell you what, be quick about it, otherwise its sold out, and the recording is fantastic..... ;D You would not want to miss out on this one. Its a gem to listeners with HIP hearts. ;)
Post by: Opus106 on November 28, 2009, 10:08:01 AM
If this isn't a bargain I don't know what is!
Uhuh, and still 9,99 in Europe, it did not change in four days, and I tell you what, be quick about it, otherwise its sold out, and the recording is fantastic..... ;D You would not want to miss out on this one. Its a gem to listeners with HIP hearts. ;)
Must... resist... putting Harry... on Ignore List.
Post by: Maciek on November 28, 2009, 10:10:09 AM
Post by: Opus106 on November 28, 2009, 10:11:45 AM
Remember the JPC shipping! Remember the JPC shipping!
That's the problem -- I know about that damned thing! ;D
Post by: Harry on November 28, 2009, 10:16:27 AM
Must... resist... putting Harry... on Ignore List.
That is really funny! I am still laughing. ;D
Post by: Opus106 on November 28, 2009, 10:26:35 AM
That is really funny! I am still laughing. ;D
Well, my Saturday wasn't completely a waste after all. :)
Post by: Coopmv on November 28, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
That's the problem -- I know about that damned thing! ;D
When the cost of shipping is 400% of the CD's ... :o
Post by: Air on November 28, 2009, 07:46:38 PM
There are better bargains, but I think I'll try to grab those first. ;) ;D :-*
Post by: Coopmv on November 28, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
Not really a fan of Kissin's, but http://www.amazon.com/Evgeny-Kissin-Concert-Box-Set/dp/B0000D8G1S/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1259466111&sr=1-8 (http://www.amazon.com/Evgeny-Kissin-Concert-Box-Set/dp/B0000D8G1S/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1259466111&sr=1-8) is at a heart-stopping $6.50 if anyone wants to grab it.
There are better bargains, but I think I'll try to grab those first. ;) ;D :-*
Kissin has always been criticized as providing inconsistent performances throughout his career. But at $5 a disc, there is not a whole lot to lose ...
Post by: Air on November 28, 2009, 08:33:40 PM
Kissin has always been criticized as providing inconsistent performances throughout his career. But at $5 a disc, there is not a whole lot to lose ...
You mean $1.62 per disc?
:D :P
Post by: Coopmv on November 28, 2009, 08:38:59 PM
You mean $1.62 per disc?
:D :P
I was referring to the price for the new set but you probably meant used.
Post by: Elgarian on December 01, 2009, 06:41:13 AM
If this isn't a bargain I don't know what is!
(http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4431.0;attach=22314;image)
Well, thanks to Harry's encouragement and the help and patience of the people at jpc, I finally managed to get myself registered correctly on their website, and I've just been notified that the box is now on its way to me. (It seems still to be available, too, at this crazy price.)
Thanks Harry.
Post by: Harry on December 01, 2009, 08:10:09 AM
Well, thanks to Harry's encouragement and the help and patience of the people at jpc, I finally managed to get myself registered correctly on their website, and I've just been notified that the box is now on its way to me. (It seems still to be available, too, at this crazy price.)
Thanks Harry.
You are very much welcome my friend.
Post by: Brian on December 01, 2009, 08:44:09 AM
LARGE NUMBERS OF FREE THINGS
Amazon is currently selling an MP3 download album called "I Love the '80s (1880s)". It contains Naxos recordings of the following:
Brahms Symphony No 3 (Alsop/LPO; half-decent performance which the Hurwitzer loved)
Mahler Symphony No 1 (Halasz; haven't heard this CD)
Tchaikovsky Symphony No 5 (Wit/PNRSO; really solid playing if unspectacular)
Dvorak Symphony No 6 (Gunzenhauser/Slovak PO; one of the best recent recordings)
Borodin Symphony No 3 (Gunzenhauser; haven't heard this CD)
Saint-Saens Organ Symphony (unsure who's playing; ditto)
Bruckner Symphony No 9 (Tintner; celebrated recording)
This five-hour album is totally free. 500 megabytes.
Post by: Harry on December 01, 2009, 08:57:53 AM
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/DHM-Original-Christmas-Classics/hnum/1235886
Post by: The new erato on December 02, 2009, 12:00:44 PM
http://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/53174/The_Best_of_Maxim_Vengerov.htm (http://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/53174/The_Best_of_Maxim_Vengerov.htm)
(http://www.europadisc.co.uk/thumb/phpThumb.php?src=../images/products/1192876638_2564637802.jpg&w=190&h=190&zc=1)
11 discs for 22 £.
Post by: Opus106 on December 02, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
Post by: Air on December 02, 2009, 10:16:09 PM
10 cds for 9 dollars used and 12 dollars new.
Unfortunately, it's probably a very mediocre set, but it's a good introduction to Chopin, especially as it features recordings by different pianists, such as Rubinstein, Horowitz, Cortot, Arrau, Michelangeli, Gilels, Solomon, Backhaus, etc. Another plus of this set, it covers the complete PCs, scherzi, ballades, waltzes, mazurkas, and etudes (op. 10, 25), which is often hard to find.
Doesn't really tempt me, but if you don't have any Chopin in your collection, i suggest you to take a glance this way...
Post by: Opus106 on December 03, 2009, 12:00:30 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Chopin-Klavierwerke-Germany/dp/B000AAP7EO/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1259820276&sr=1-11 (http://www.amazon.com/Chopin-Klavierwerke-Germany/dp/B000AAP7EO/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1259820276&sr=1-11)
10 cds for 9 dollars used and 12 dollars new.
Unfortunately, it's probably a very mediocre set, but it's a good introduction to Chopin, especially as it features recordings by different pianists, such as Rubinstein, Horowitz, Cortot, Arrau, Michelangeli, Gilels, Solomon, Backhaus, etc. Another plus of this set, it covers the complete PCs, scherzi, ballades, waltzes, mazurkas, and etudes (op. 10, 25), which is often hard to find.
Doesn't really tempt me, but if you don't have any Chopin in your collection, i suggest you to take a glance this way...
Also a good introduction to Chopin would be this set (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000026OW3/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1259827028&sr=1-1&condition=new). Apart from the etudes, this contains, to my knowledge, every other solo work, and the piano concerti. :)
Post by: Air on December 03, 2009, 09:30:42 PM
Also a good introduction to Chopin would be this set (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000026OW3/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1259827028&sr=1-1&condition=new). Apart from the etudes, this contains, to my knowledge, every other solo work, and the piano concerti. :)
There are a good many piano works missing from that set, actually.
The reason I mentioned the set above as a better reference/starter is because many people just won't warm to Rubinstein's "natural" Chopin and never will. A more comprehensive set can give you a better feel of which pianists you enjoy and which you do not.
Post by: George on December 04, 2009, 04:38:41 AM
The reason I mentioned the set above as a better reference/starter is because many people just won't warm to Rubinstein's "natural" Chopin and never will. A more comprehensive set can give you a better feel of which pianists you enjoy and which you do not.
I think it is wise to go for the piecemeal approach when it comes to Chopin, for I don't think any pianist plays all of Chopin's works well or perhaps better to say, to one's taste. Some are only great with the etudes, others excel with the Ballades but not with the Nocturnes and vice versa. Some, like Moravec, Rosenthal, Pachmann, to name a few, didn't record nearly all of Chopin's output anyway. Many of the great Chopin CDs are available at midprice (Ashkenazy's Decca Two-fers, Gavrilov's Etudes on Seraphim, Arrau's Nocturnes, etc) or lower, so it's possible to assemble a reasonably priced personalized box set of individual CDs.
Post by: Coopmv on December 04, 2009, 05:19:24 AM
I think it is wise to go for the piecemeal approach when it comes to Chopin, for I don't think any pianist plays all of Chopin's works well or perhaps better to say, to one's taste. Some are only great with the etudes, others excel with the Ballades but not with the Nocturnes and vice versa. Some, like Moravec, Rosenthal, Pachmann, to name a few, didn't record nearly all of Chopin's output anyway. Many of the great Chopin CDs are available at midprice (Ashkenazy's Decca Two-fers, Gavrilov's Etudes on Seraphim, Arrau's Nocturnes, etc) or lower, so it's possible to assemble a reasonably priced personalized box set of individual CDs.
I expect to get the following Chopin set before the end of year as the set features some pianists I really like, such as Bella Davidovich, whose CD recordings are not easy to find. This big box will complement the close to 100 CD's/LP's of Chopin works
I currently own - mostly singles. I just love Chopin piano works ... ;D
(http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/t_200/brilliantclassics93202.jpg)
Post by: George on December 04, 2009, 05:52:26 AM
I just love Chopin piano works ... ;D
Me too. As time goes on, I have become more and more fond of them.
Post by: Coopmv on December 04, 2009, 06:13:14 AM
Me too. As time goes on, I have become more and more fond of them.
I am particularly fond of the Nocturnes. Unfortunately, those singles by Cortot on Naxos Historical I bought last spring really do not cover the whole work. Did Cortot ever record the complete Nocturnes, George? Or are they only available on EMI, whose sound may not be quite as good as Naxos Historical?
Post by: The new erato on December 04, 2009, 06:21:52 AM
Me too. As time goes on, I have become more and more fond of them.Chopin has gone from being a nonentity in my listening ten years ago to being quite important currently. And that after 35 years in classical music!
Post by: George on December 04, 2009, 08:15:33 AM
I am particularly fond of the Nocturnes. Unfortunately, those singles by Cortot on Naxos Historical I bought last spring really do not cover the whole work. Did Cortot ever record the complete Nocturnes, George? Or are they only available on EMI, whose sound may not be quite as good as Naxos Historical?
I don't think that he recorded them all, no.
Post by: Air on December 23, 2009, 05:02:39 PM
Though it is often advised not to buy from such a label, one must be tempted at this bargain - 3 CDs of Cortot's finest Schumann recordings, remastered, and selling for 15 dollars. Not on Pearl, Philips, Music and Arts, Biddulph, EMI, or even Naxos can you get these recordings at anywhere near that price.
Post by: Orpheus on December 26, 2009, 01:36:05 AM
(http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/t_200/emi9670632.jpg)
I just ordered it
http://www.amazon.de/Festival-Ballet-Ballett-exklusiv-Amazon/dp/B002P75FBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1261820065&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.de/Festival-Ballet-Ballett-exklusiv-Amazon/dp/B002P75FBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1261820065&sr=8-1)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Harry on December 26, 2009, 02:18:22 AM
Look at this bargain... :o
(http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/t_200/emi9670632.jpg)
I just ordered it
http://www.amazon.de/Festival-Ballet-Ballett-exklusiv-Amazon/dp/B002P75FBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1261820065&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.de/Festival-Ballet-Ballett-exklusiv-Amazon/dp/B002P75FBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1261820065&sr=8-1)
Orpheus ;)
Thanks my friend!
Ordered to
Post by: Renfield on December 26, 2009, 06:08:04 AM
Look at this bargain... :o
(http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/t_200/emi9670632.jpg)
I just ordered it
http://www.amazon.de/Festival-Ballet-Ballett-exklusiv-Amazon/dp/B002P75FBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1261820065&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.de/Festival-Ballet-Ballett-exklusiv-Amazon/dp/B002P75FBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1261820065&sr=8-1)
Orpheus ;)
If that doesn't qualify for this thread, at that price, I really don't know what should. :o
Elusive complete track listing here (http://www.allegro.pl/item845093751_a_festival_of_ballet_50cd.html)!
Post by: Renfield on December 26, 2009, 06:12:08 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YfdmI06XL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Post by: George on December 26, 2009, 06:30:54 AM
And what's this? (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B002UCDVAC/ref=pd_luc_sbs_01_03)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YfdmI06XL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Some big names in there, but none that I call my favorites for Chopin. Plus, they left out Cortot. :-[
Post by: Renfield on December 26, 2009, 06:42:39 AM
Some big names in there, but none that I call my favorites for Chopin. Plus, they left out Cortot. :-[
It generally seems to be a round-up of the Chopin recordings in their archive not currently in print, and of at least adequate quality.
Still, some of them might be worth hearing...
Post by: The new erato on December 26, 2009, 08:51:20 AM
If that doesn't qualify for this thread, at that price, I really don't know what should. :oSome strange choices of works though:
Elusive complete track listing here (http://www.allegro.pl/item845093751_a_festival_of_ballet_50cd.html)!
CD 33: ELGAR - Enigma Variations; VAUGHAN WILLIAMS - Job
Post by: Lethevich on December 26, 2009, 08:56:58 AM
Post by: The new erato on December 26, 2009, 09:00:21 AM
Hehe. Certainly a weird choice to include an obscure British composer for the German market, but for people with taste, Job is a masterwork ;)I do know Job, but the Enigmas in a ballet box? I don't doubt that someone, somewhere, have danced to it, but still?
Post by: Lethevich on December 26, 2009, 09:03:10 AM
Although based on EMI's recent quality control history, they probably have a student on work experience overseeing the whole project.
Post by: Renfield on December 26, 2009, 09:49:34 PM
Although based on EMI's recent quality control history, they probably have a student on work experience overseeing the whole project.
;D
Post by: Brian on December 26, 2009, 10:13:50 PM
Although based on EMI's recent quality control history, they probably have a student on work experience overseeing the whole project.
I would totally volunteer to be the student on work experience choosing box set program lineups!!
Post by: Coopmv on December 27, 2009, 08:11:44 PM
I would totally volunteer to be the student on work experience choosing box set program lineups!!
Mr. EMI Big Box ... ;D
Post by: Renfield on December 27, 2009, 08:20:08 PM
Mr. EMI Big Box ... ;D
"Big's my middle name."
Would make for a good catch-phrase around the EMI offices, for the multiple-disc box set specialist.
Post by: George on December 27, 2009, 08:23:22 PM
"Big's my middle name."
Would make for a good catch-phrase around the EMI offices, for the multiple-disc box set specialist.
Not to mention the fact that he'd have to beat off (perhaps not the best choice of words, but I am tired) the ladies with one of those ICON boxes. ;D
Post by: Coopmv on December 27, 2009, 08:25:19 PM
"Big's my middle name."
Would make for a good catch-phrase around the EMI offices, for the multiple-disc box set specialist.
Sony is late to the big box party when DG and EMI have been doing just that for the past two years. No wonder Sony has been performing like crap the past ten years. While Sony took the world by storm with its Walkman and Discman, it missed the MP3 boat big-time.
Post by: Renfield on December 27, 2009, 08:36:37 PM
Not to mention the fact that he'd have to beat off (perhaps not the best choice of words, but I am tired) the ladies with one of those ICON boxes. ;D
Yes, his would be a hard life. :'( ;)
Sony is late to the big box party when DG and EMI have been doing just that for the past two years. No wonder Sony has been performing like crap the past ten years. While Sony took the world by storm with its Walkman and Discman, it missed the MP3 boat big-time.
Indeed! Relevant to your comment, I owned one of their early attempts at a modern mp3 player, and it was a complete disaster of a machine, badly written software, unintuitive interface... Even the PS3 took them a couple of years to get right, in terms of presenting a cohesive vision of what they want people to do with one, and pricing it at the right level.
So I'm not surprised their classical division has also been having trouble keeping up with the times in the new world of high disc-to-price ratios and extensive archival reissues; let alone presenting innovation of their own.
Post by: George on December 27, 2009, 08:38:24 PM
Yes, his would be a hard life. :'( ;)
A new release every few hours. 8)
Post by: Coopmv on December 27, 2009, 08:43:07 PM
Yes, his would be a hard life. :'( ;)
Indeed! Relevant to your comment, I owned one of their early attempts at a modern mp3 player, and it was a complete disaster of a machine, badly written software, unintuitive interface... Even the PS3 took them a couple of years to get right, in terms of presenting a cohesive vision of what they want people to do with one, and pricing it at the right level.
So I'm not surprised their classical division has also been having trouble keeping up with the times in the new world of high disc-to-price ratios and extensive archival reissues; let alone presenting innovation of their own.
Whatever happened to Howard Stringer, the Welsh American and the first non-Japanese CEO that is supposed to right the ship named Sony?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Stringer
Post by: Brian on December 27, 2009, 09:07:08 PM
Mr. EMI Big Box ... ;D
If I knew the ins and outs of the EMI vaults better, I'd be better placed to throw out an example of a cool box set waiting to be designed ...
Post by: George on December 27, 2009, 09:10:45 PM
If I knew the ins and outs of the EMI vaults better, I'd be better placed to throw out an example of a cool box set waiting to be designed ...
How about a budget release of Celibidache's Bruckner set?
Post by: Coopmv on December 27, 2009, 09:13:15 PM
If I knew the ins and outs of the EMI vaults better, I'd be better placed to throw out an example of a cool box set waiting to be designed ...
Or you would have hired Mark Obert-Thorn or Ward Marston to do better reconstruction/remastering work ... ;D
Post by: listener on December 28, 2009, 01:30:46 PM
I ordered a couple of the Capriccio sets that I've not seen locally (Busoni compilation and Krumbach's German Organ set) good price and shipping 8 discs from overseas total is less than domestic rate for one disc (amazon, etc.)
Post by: Brian on December 29, 2009, 07:50:12 PM
Ten CDs of Johann Strauss jr. waltzes, polkas, marches and overtures (including most of the greatest hits and a selection of obscure pieces, like his Op. 1) - MP3 download for $10 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/albumpage/86377-E625-5)
The complete Haydn piano sonatas - MP3 download for $10 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/albumpage/207526-E625-5)
These are Naxos recordings, so Jeno Jando plays all the Haydn and the Strauss is by a host of Slovak orchestras plus the Austrian Radio Symphony Orchestra. Sound samples are available.
Post by: Brian on December 30, 2009, 08:34:58 PM
The complete Haydn piano sonatas - MP3 download for $10 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/albumpage/207526-E625-5)[/b]Downloading now - 1.3 GB downloaded, 200 megabytes left to go, probably the biggest download I've ever done! Still and all, for $10 to have the complete Haydn sonatas, well, I'm a little bit excited. :)
Looks like the file transfer process will be complete pretty near the four-hour mark :o
EDIT: Finished at 4 h 14 m. Pretty good given the length of the album is 10 h 57 m!
Post by: OzRadio on December 31, 2009, 09:01:37 AM
Post by: Coopmv on December 31, 2009, 09:15:58 PM
Is anyone familiar with EMI's 50-disc Schubert Collector's Edition? I don't have any Schubert yet and was thinking of purchasing this. It's under $70 a couple places.
Are you referring to this set? While I like Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau as a great lyric baritone, I am not too excited about its roster of conductors.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/611WuogoLTL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Post by: Lethevich on December 31, 2009, 11:19:43 PM
Here's a scan of the back:
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2116/backlq.jpg)
Overall it looks pretty strong, if not vital.
Post by: Coopmv on January 01, 2010, 12:27:15 PM
Downloading now - 1.3 GB downloaded, 200 megabytes left to go, probably the biggest download I've ever done! Still and all, for $10 to have the complete Haydn sonatas, well, I'm a little bit excited. :)
Looks like the file transfer process will be complete pretty near the four-hour mark :o
EDIT: Finished at 4 h 14 m. Pretty good given the length of the album is 10 h 57 m!
Brian, Were you using a 1 TB external hard drive for this download? I have seen prices for such drive for a little over $100 on sale ...
Post by: Brian on January 01, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
Brian, Were you using a 1 TB external hard drive for this download? I have seen prices for such drive for a little over $100 on sale ...
Nope, my regular hard drive had room! I do need to invest in a 1 TB external, however; have seen them for as cheap as $90, and with my current external full, it's a pressing need. :)
Post by: George on January 01, 2010, 01:20:23 PM
Fazil Say
Mozart Concertos 12, 21, 23
Haydn Sonatas 10, 31, 35, 37, 43
Beethoven Waldstein, Appassionata and Tempest Sonatas
All for only $12.99 new
Post by: Coopmv on January 01, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
Nope, my regular hard drive had room! I do need to invest in a 1 TB external, however; have seen them for as cheap as $90, and with my current external full, it's a pressing need. :)
I tend to stick with Seagate and Western Digital because of their reputation, though the 1 TB externals made by these companies tend to be pricier. I have seen 1 TB external by Fantom advertised for less than $100 but really am unsure about this brand's reliability ...
Post by: Brian on January 18, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: MN Dave on January 18, 2010, 11:56:10 AM
Holy mother of God give me a reason not to buy this. (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93525/5028421935256/Brilliant-Classics/Ludwig-van-Beethoven/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-26315.html)
1. You might hurt your back lifting it.
2. It might contain a French spy.
Post by: The new erato on January 18, 2010, 12:00:19 PM
Holy mother of God give me a reason not to buy this. (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93525/5028421935256/Brilliant-Classics/Ludwig-van-Beethoven/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-26315.html)The notes may be in Dutch?
Post by: Brian on January 18, 2010, 12:04:46 PM
2. It might contain a French spy.
Hmm, good point. I don't much care for French spies, unless they look like this:
(http://blog.jinni.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/pinkpanther_petersellers.jpg)
erato, the site claims it comes with a 200 page book (although maybe my French is just bad!).
Post by: Maciek on January 18, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
(Oddly enough, it does not contain sung texts.)
Post by: Wanderer on January 18, 2010, 02:29:26 PM
Holy mother of God give me a reason not to buy this. (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93525/5028421935256/Brilliant-Classics/Ludwig-van-Beethoven/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-26315.html)
You're short on shelf space and you hate Beethoven? >:D
Post by: Orpheus on January 19, 2010, 01:09:04 AM
Holy mother of God give me a reason not to buy this. (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93525/5028421935256/Brilliant-Classics/Ludwig-van-Beethoven/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-26315.html)
What's missing in this complete box?
Post by: George on January 19, 2010, 03:54:50 AM
Holy mother of God give me a reason not to buy this. (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93525/5028421935256/Brilliant-Classics/Ludwig-van-Beethoven/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-26315.html)
No way, Jose. If you are to resist the dark side, it must be done on your own. :D
Post by: The new erato on January 19, 2010, 04:04:21 AM
No way, Jose. If you are to resist the dark side, it must be done on your own. :DThe Force is weak in him.
Post by: ammar on January 19, 2010, 10:40:48 AM
http://classique.abeillemusique.com/result.php?page=1&label=81&order=prix&sort_type=DESC (http://classique.abeillemusique.com/result.php?page=1&label=81&order=prix&sort_type=DESC)
eg
Haydn Edition Volume 1 - 50 euros
Russian Legends (100 CDs) - 30 euros
Brendel Early Recordings - 23 euros
Scarlatti Complete Sonatas - 22 euros
Rachmaninov Complete Edition - 20 euros
Delivery to the UK is 10 euros, the website is entirely in French with no option to translate (L'Académie française would be proud), so only proceed if your French is, er, bon. :)
Post by: Opus106 on January 19, 2010, 10:46:18 AM
Delivery to the UK is 10 euros, the website is entirely in French with no option to translate (L'Académie française would be proud), so only proceed if your French is, er, bon. :)
I assume it's a flat rate. And could you please tell me how much they charge to ship things to India -- if they ship to India at all? :) I'm sorry to trouble you, but my French is not the least bon. :)
*Fingers crossed, hoping it makes JPC and Amazon.de seem inexpensive*
Post by: Wanderer on January 19, 2010, 11:18:55 AM
I assume it's a flat rate. And could you please tell me how much they charge to ship things to India -- if they ship to India at all? :) I'm sorry to trouble you, but my French is not the least bon. :)
Their international shipping rates depend on the items ordered and are calculated thus: 9,90 euros for 1-3 items, 18,30 euros for 4-7 items, 28,20 euros for 8-15 items and free shipping for ordering more than 15 items. Shipping charges are calculated automatically on the order page, so you'll be able to check them out before finalizing the order - and in your case they're also going to exclude the sales tax from the item's price (about 17% if I remember correctly).
Post by: Opus106 on January 19, 2010, 11:22:56 AM
Their international shipping rates depend on the items ordered and are calculated thus: 9,90 euros for 1-3 items, 18,30 euros for 4-7 items, 28,20 euros for 8-15 items and free shipping for ordering more than 15 items. Shipping charges are calculated automatically on the order page, so you'll be able to check them out before finalizing the order - and in your case they're also going to exclude the sales tax from the item's price (about 17% if I remember correctly).
That information is very much appreicated, Tasos. :)
(And like I feared, their rates seem to be rather reasonable. :-\)
Post by: Wanderer on January 19, 2010, 11:42:38 AM
That information is very much appreicated, Tasos. :)
(And like I feared, their rates seem to be rather reasonable. :-\)
I didn't manage to find any list of excluded countries (à la amazon marketplace) on their help pages, so these rates do apply internationally. If these bix Brilliant boxes are considered as singular items for the purpose of calculating the delivery charges, it's a good deal. Now that I think of it, it will cost less to send an item to India (same p&p, but tax-free) than to send it to Greece! :o ;D
Post by: Opus106 on January 19, 2010, 11:47:16 AM
I didn't manage to find any list of excluded countries (à la amazon marketplace) on their help pages, so these rates do apply internationally. If these bix Brilliant boxes are considered as singular items for the purpose of calculating the delivery charges, it's a good deal. Now that I think of it, it will cost less to send an item to India (same p&p, but tax-free) than to send it to Greece! :o ;D
Those rates always will remain an enigma.
Post by: Brewski on January 19, 2010, 11:59:09 AM
Holy mother of God give me a reason not to buy this. (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93525/5028421935256/Brilliant-Classics/Ludwig-van-Beethoven/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-26315.html)
Because you should be buying more Lachenmann? >:D
--Bruce
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2010, 12:08:45 PM
Man, I was planning not to buy any CDs this year and then they have to go and tempt me this way.
Post by: ammar on January 19, 2010, 12:09:24 PM
I partially processed an order with my country flagged as India; Abeille's system seemed to accept it without any problems. Postage to India starts at 8.28 euros - I'm guessing it's cheaper than for the UK & Greece because the local sales tax is removed (also reflected in the reduced prices shown on the Abeille website for CDs when I changed my address). Of course, we don't then need to worry about any import taxes...
Post by: MN Dave on January 19, 2010, 12:09:44 PM
Buchberger Haydn is 20 euros.
Man, I was planning not to buy any CDs this year ...
Then why are you even reading this thread???
Post by: Opus106 on January 19, 2010, 12:13:34 PM
Wanderer & Opus106,
I partially processed an order with my country flagged as India; Abeille's system seemed to accept it without any problems. Postage to India starts at 8.28 euros - I'm guessing it's cheaper than for the UK & Greece because the local sales tax is removed (also reflected in the reduced prices shown on the Abeille website for CDs when I changed my address). Of course, we don't then need to worry about any import taxes...
Wow, thanks a lot, ammar. :)
Post by: ammar on January 19, 2010, 05:16:24 PM
http://classique.abeillemusique.com/result.php?page=1&label=81&order=prix&sort_type=DESC (http://classique.abeillemusique.com/result.php?page=1&label=81&order=prix&sort_type=DESC)
Haydn Edition (150 CDs) now 40 euros! :o
Russian Legends & Beethoven Edition (both 100CDs) now 24 euros apiece! :o
Brendel Set & Scarlatti Sonatas (35 & 36 CDs) now 18 euros each! :o
If I'd held fire on the Haydn set, I could have saved another 10 euros today! (mind you, If I'd held fire on the Haydn set @ 50 euros, I would have been an idiot!)
Will there be a further reduction tomorrow, I wonder? (and is this a deliberate attempt by Abeille to pauperize GMGers?)
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2010, 08:36:01 PM
The Buchberger Haydn complete box set is now US $24.
EDIT: It must be a fire sale. Every Brilliant Classics item that's not listed is no longer available, even new releases (the Knushnevitsky box that came out last month is already out of print, they claim).
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2010, 08:55:15 PM
Post by: Air on January 19, 2010, 09:11:06 PM
Now, I'm going to be useful to everybody else and recommend y'all buy the 5CD Sviatoslav Richter set. It's 8 euros and it contains some of the most stupendous Schubert and Beethoven playing there is.
I'm eyeing the Yudina and Sofronitsky sets too.
Post by: Que on January 19, 2010, 11:44:53 PM
Their international shipping rates depend on the items ordered and are calculated thus: 9,90 euros for 1-3 items, 18,30 euros for 4-7 items, 28,20 euros for 8-15 items and free shipping for ordering more than 15 items. Shipping charges are calculated automatically on the order page, so you'll be able to check them out before finalizing the order - and in your case they're also going to exclude the sales tax from the item's price (about 17% if I remember correctly).
After I gathered some nice bargains, I was unpleasantly reminded of Abeillemusique's idiotic "foreign" shipping rates. I had six items, so I would have to pay that €18,30! :o Thereby evaporating any discount advantage... While jpc, for instance, charges me a for any amount a flat rate of €5,- ::). And I do not live on another continent. Well, they know where to stick it... :P
Q
Post by: Lethevich on January 19, 2010, 11:45:02 PM
This is one of the first times I've ever felt jealous of the French :'(
Post by: Scarpia on January 20, 2010, 08:21:25 AM
As if we need further proof of EMI's incompetence, there is no listing or hint of the existence of this set on EMI classics own web site (that I can find) although various amazon sites are selling it and one has already been shipped to me. No track listing has been made available either, although I have a general idea of what Ciccolini recorded for EMI.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41LIAPNQtlL._SS400_.jpg)
How can a company that can't even manage to maintain a list of the products it sells survive?
Post by: MN Dave on January 20, 2010, 08:26:06 AM
Picked this new release up for $55 (56 discs).
As if we need further proof of EMI's incompetence, there is no listing or hint of the existence of this set on EMI classics own web site (that I can find) although various amazon sites are selling it and one has already been shipped to me. No track listing has been made available either, although I have a general idea of what Ciccolini recorded for EMI.
How can a company that can't even manage to maintain a list of the products it sells survive?
http://www.emivirginclassics.fr/aldo-ciccolini-the-complete-emi-recordings/
Post by: Scarpia on January 20, 2010, 08:40:21 AM
http://www.emivirginclassics.fr/aldo-ciccolini-the-complete-emi-recordings/
Good work, finding it on the French EMI site. I was wondering if I missed it, but I still can't find it in the catalog or new release pages of the international site, www.emiclassics.com.
Post by: MN Dave on January 20, 2010, 08:41:47 AM
Good work, finding it on the French EMI site. I was wondering if I missed it, but I still can't find it in the catalog or new release pages of the international site, www.emiclassics.com.
French EMI may have released it. I don't know how that works, but CD Universe states as much.
Post by: Brian on January 20, 2010, 08:47:16 AM
Post by: MN Dave on January 20, 2010, 08:48:43 AM
Post by: Orpheus on January 20, 2010, 11:28:20 AM
French Sony released my box of Szell LvB symphonies. Shh... 8)
Explain to me please! I'd like to pick Szell/Beethoven box at a reasonable price...
Post by: MN Dave on January 20, 2010, 11:32:54 AM
Explain to me please! I'd like to pick Szell/Beethoven box at a reasonable price...
Sorry. This was a while back. I think it's oop by now.
Post by: George on January 20, 2010, 12:31:30 PM
Explain to me please! I'd like to pick Szell/Beethoven box at a reasonable price...
I see those CDs (singly) in the used bins for $3.99 all the time.
Post by: Opus106 on January 20, 2010, 12:38:14 PM
I see those CDs (singly) in the used bins for $3.99 all the time.
And almost all of them are available at AMP for the same price, new. Of course, you'd have to pay almost as much for shipping. And that would be the same as buying from Amazon while taking advantage of the free shipping if eligible. Not bad for OOP CDs that one very much wants, I'd say. :)
Post by: George on January 20, 2010, 01:14:43 PM
And almost all of them are available at AMP for the same price, new. Of course, you'd have to pay almost as much for shipping. And that would be the same as buying from Amazon while taking advantage of the free shipping if eligible. Not bad for OOP CDs that one very much wants, I'd say. :)
Not to mention some superb performances! :)
Post by: Scarpia on January 20, 2010, 01:21:44 PM
Sorry. This was a while back. I think it's oop by now.
Wow, I wouldn't have believed it but the Szell/Beethoven cycle seems to be out of print at the moment! Not that I want a copy, but you would think that something so standard would be perpetually available. A new edition must be in the pipeline.
Post by: Air on January 20, 2010, 02:06:49 PM
That French site has some ridiculously cheap stuff aside from Brilliant Classics. Many full-priced Chandos CDs are going for 6.40, including cool stuff like their D'Indy, Koechlin, the recent Bacewicz violin concertos disc, etc. If the shipping was flat-rate I would've bought a crate load.
This is one of the first times I've ever felt jealous of the French :'(
How much is the shipping cost if I live in the US?
(The shipping cost is what I don't like about foreign "bargains.")
Post by: Maciek on January 20, 2010, 05:29:32 PM
How much is the shipping cost if I live in the US?
(The shipping cost is what I don't like about foreign "bargains.")
US is "international" in relation to France, so:
Their international shipping rates depend on the items ordered and are calculated thus: 9,90 euros for 1-3 items, 18,30 euros for 4-7 items, 28,20 euros for 8-15 items and free shipping for ordering more than 15 items. Shipping charges are calculated automatically on the order page, so you'll be able to check them out before finalizing the order - and in your case they're also going to exclude the sales tax from the item's price (about 17% if I remember correctly).
Post by: Coopmv on January 20, 2010, 08:12:39 PM
Wow! I guess I'll wait a couple days - my cart [Beethoven, Rachmaninov, historical Russians edition] just went from US $107 to US $88! NOTE: You have to delete everything from your cart and re-add them to get the new price.
The Buchberger Haydn complete box set is now US $24.
Did you mean Buchbinder? I have his Complete Haydn Piano Sonatas on WarnerClassics.
Post by: Brian on January 20, 2010, 08:43:49 PM
Did you mean Buchbinder? I have his Complete Haydn Piano Sonatas on WarnerClassics.
Nope, the Buchberger String Quartet's complete Haydn quartets and Seven Last Words, for $25.
Post by: The new erato on January 20, 2010, 11:22:32 PM
Post by: Lethevich on January 20, 2010, 11:41:08 PM
You just made me order 251 CDs from this site for the grand total of 65 E including P&P. I included a Chandos disc (Rubbras masses) at at ridiculous price, unfortunately I already have the "D'Indy (2) and Bacewicz violin concertos disc" mentioned by somebody, but which Koechlin disc did you think of?Charles Koechlin Intégrale des œuvres pour saxophone & piano (http://classique.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CHAN9803/0095115980323/Chandos-Records/Charles-Koechlin/Integrale-des-oeuvres-pour-saxophone--piano/cleart-22191.html)
Currently now 6 euro rather than 6.40.
Post by: Opus106 on January 20, 2010, 11:49:18 PM
You just made me order 251 CDs from this site for the grand total of 65 E including P&P. I included a Chandos disc (Rubbras masses) at at ridiculous price, unfortunately I already have the "D'Indy (2) and Bacewicz violin concertos disc" mentioned by somebody, but which Koechlin disc did you think of?
Let me guess... the Haydn Box and the Russian Legends? For me, it comes to a whopping 53,18 €. That is ridiculous! (In a good way. ;D)
Edit: actually, 61.45. Still ridiculous, though.
Post by: The new erato on January 21, 2010, 02:13:26 AM
Let me guess... the Haydn Box and the Russian Legends? For me, it comes to a whopping 53,18 €. That is ridiculous! (In a good way. ;D)Righto. Wanted the barytone trios and the van Swieten Piano trios, the rest is pure bonus. And I have 30 CDs worth of the russian material, those will make great presents.
Edit: actually, 61.45. Still ridiculous, though.
Post by: The new erato on January 21, 2010, 02:14:07 AM
Charles Koechlin Intégrale des œuvres pour saxophone & piano (http://classique.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CHAN9803/0095115980323/Chandos-Records/Charles-Koechlin/Integrale-des-oeuvres-pour-saxophone--piano/cleart-22191.html)Thanks. There will be further orders from this etailer.
Currently now 6 euro rather than 6.40.
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on January 21, 2010, 11:14:09 AM
I get the bit about 'add to basket', then realize its saying something about 'not having an account'
:-[ No worries if you can't, I may try the English speaking telephone service...cheers
Post by: Brian on January 21, 2010, 11:22:59 AM
Can anyone provide an 'idiots guide' instructions as to set up an account at Abeille Musique. It's very hard being a Luddite and speaking only one language.
I get the bit about 'add to basket', then realize its saying something about 'not having an account'
:-[ No worries if you can't, I may try the English speaking telephone service...cheers
The first time I ordered from Abeille Musique, I used Google Translate to translate key phrases.
Post by: Scarpia on January 21, 2010, 11:23:20 AM
Can anyone provide an 'idiots guide' instructions as to set up an account at Abeille Musique. It's very hard being a Luddite and speaking only one language.
I get the bit about 'add to basket', then realize its saying something about 'not having an account'
:-[ No worries if you can't, I may try the English speaking telephone service...cheers
You want to click where it says cliquez vite sur ce lien : Je m'inscris tout de suite.
I haven't managed to order anything yet, but this site can translate text from the web site well enough to figure out what they are asking.
http://translation2.paralink.com/
Just cut and paste text, then hit translate.
Post by: Scarpia on January 21, 2010, 11:25:30 AM
The first time I ordered from Abeille Musique, I used Google Translate to translate key phrases.
Oooo, I didn't notice google had a translation site now.
:)
Post by: Opus106 on January 21, 2010, 11:25:52 AM
It's fairly simple (with an add-on like BabelFish (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7004) ;)). I think it's fairly obvious what should typed in each field, mostly. E-mail, give yourself a password, and then re-type the thing. Name, First name, blah... blah.. blah. And that's it. After that it will give you a choice to modify the details if so required, otherwise you can just proceed to shop. At least that's what I did. :) BTW, I still haven't made a transaction with them. The farthest I have gone is to my basket.
Post by: MN Dave on January 21, 2010, 11:27:06 AM
Post by: Scarpia on January 21, 2010, 11:56:43 AM
Just don't click the button that says: "Please Use My Credit Card As You Will".
:o
One more reason to learn French. ;D
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on January 21, 2010, 12:04:48 PM
Hopefully I will have the account set up, when I get home from work tonight.
I should have paid more attention in French class, some 25 years ago LOL
Post by: Antoine Marchand on January 21, 2010, 03:04:55 PM
I should have paid more attention in French class...
Me too. :(
My cart is full of nice and cheap goodies, but I don't know how to buy with my credit card. Some help?
:)
Post by: George on January 21, 2010, 03:15:13 PM
Me too. :(
My cart is full of nice and cheap goodies, but I don't know how to buy with my credit card. Some help?
:)
Sure, just PM me the number.
;)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on January 21, 2010, 03:19:32 PM
Sure, just PM me the number.
;)
;D
Post by: Que on January 21, 2010, 03:25:02 PM
Me too. :(
My cart is full of nice and cheap goodies, but I don't know how to buy with my credit card. Some help?
:)
Near the bottom of the page are three options - choose "Je paie par CB" (CB = carte bancaire = credit card).
Q
Post by: Scarpia on January 21, 2010, 03:25:16 PM
Sure, just PM me the number.
;)
And include the standard French legal fine print: Vous mai faites ce que vous voulez avec ma carte de crédit.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on January 21, 2010, 03:33:03 PM
CB = carte bancaire = credit card
Thanks, Q! It was all what I needed. :D
Post by: ammar on January 21, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
Brahms - Complete Chamber Music - Hyperion - 12CDs = 24 euros
http://classique.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CDS4433142/0034571143316/Hyperion/Johannes-Brahms/Musique-de-Chambre-Integrale/cleart-30432.html (http://classique.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CDS4433142/0034571143316/Hyperion/Johannes-Brahms/Musique-de-Chambre-Integrale/cleart-30432.html)
Chopin - Complete Piano Music - Hyperion - 16CDs = 22 euros
http://classique.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CDS4435166/0034571143514/Hyperion/Frederic-Chopin/Integrale-des-OEuvres/cleart-30622.html (http://classique.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CDS4435166/0034571143514/Hyperion/Frederic-Chopin/Integrale-des-OEuvres/cleart-30622.html)
Wagner - Ring Cycle - Rudolf Kempe - Testament = 35 euros
http://classique.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/SBT131426/0749677142629/Testament/Richard-Wagner/Der-Ring-des-Nibelungen-La-Tetralogie/cleart-30662.html (http://classique.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/SBT131426/0749677142629/Testament/Richard-Wagner/Der-Ring-des-Nibelungen-La-Tetralogie/cleart-30662.html)
Langaard - Symphonies - Da Capo - 12 SACDs = 28 euros
http://classique.abeillemusique.com/SACD-Hybride/Classique/6200001/0747313300167/Da-Capo/Rued-Langgaard/Les-Symphonies/cleart-31520.html (http://classique.abeillemusique.com/SACD-Hybride/Classique/6200001/0747313300167/Da-Capo/Rued-Langgaard/Les-Symphonies/cleart-31520.html)
I think the new WTC recording by Angela Hewitt was on for 14 euros, all the hyperion 'full price' discs (as with the Chandos ones) are 6.80 euros a pop. Various special priced 3 CD sets (Gothic Voices, Veracini Sonatas) are also 6.80 euros. Most of the Hyperion/Gramophone Award Edition is going for 5 euros (Sauer/Scharwenka Piano Concertos, etc.).
As for other labels, I think I saw some Da Capo and Nimbus box sets highly reduced too.
Happy Shopping :)
Post by: Brian on January 21, 2010, 06:37:02 PM
Except:
When will I listen to it all?
Post by: George on January 21, 2010, 06:38:39 PM
When will I listen to it all?
You listen to your CDs?
Post by: Bunny on January 21, 2010, 08:55:51 PM
Hmmm ... $150 buys me the complete works of Beethoven, Rachmaninov, and Grieg, the complete Haydn quartets, the Mravinsky edition, and the giant Russian Archives collection. 285 CDs, 53 cents per CD. All for the price of 10 dinners at the local Mexican restaurant. Every reason to buy it.
Except:
When will I listen to it all?
And how good are the recordings?
I just got the Dorati Haydn cycle for $51. That's $1.50 per cd, but the quality is uniformly high. I think that's a real bargain.
Post by: The new erato on January 21, 2010, 10:59:36 PM
The Langgaard set isn't on 12 CDs. I think it's on 6. Great price anyway though.
Langaard - Symphonies - Da Capo - 12 SACDs = 28 euros
Post by: otterhouse on January 21, 2010, 11:54:27 PM
Got a reasonable review too:
http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=11265
2CD's for one euro, even placemats are more expensive...
(http://docent.cmd.hro.nl/otter/kruidvat.jpg)
Rolf
Post by: Moldyoldie on January 22, 2010, 07:16:30 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51g09fxlpNL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)It seems to come in various packaging.
Mahler: Symphony No. 5
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
Frank Shipway, cond.
RPO PLATINUM
Shipway/RPO's Mahler Fifth is schizoid to the max (in the now sullied sense of meaning thoroughly contrasting in mood, tempo and dynamics); yet comprehensible, committed, and thrillingly performed -- it's how I imagine Mahler imagined it! The brass soloists are spot-on in expression and overall ensemble is quite fine with this very inspired conducting. Also, the twelve-minute Adagietto isn't "beautiful", it's fine steel mesh being stretched and rent asunder. This is a Mahler Fifth that demands to be heard!
The recording is spacious, somewhat less than impeccably balanced; but mostly clean, unfussy and gimmick-free...and it's available dirt cheap online. You'll love it!
Post by: Renfield on January 22, 2010, 10:31:50 AM
That's €95 including UK shipping.
I suppose there are worse ways to spend €95! ;) :D
Post by: Wanderer on January 23, 2010, 02:12:13 PM
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Post by: mc ukrneal on January 23, 2010, 02:38:12 PM
Post by: Wanderer on January 23, 2010, 03:41:04 PM
How are the points used when you make a purchase? I'm probably not looking in the right spot (or not understanding).
You can't use them right away; you can cash them out when placing a subsequent order. The points you already have and the sum they amount to are calculated automatically on the ordering page.
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2010, 12:10:56 AM
You can't use them right away; you can cash them out when placing a subsequent order. The points you already have and the sum they amount to are calculated automatically on the ordering page.
How many points do you have to get before it makes a difference? I placed a 28 euro order there last year (Complete Brahms / Brilliant) and don't seem to have any points being applied to my total.
Post by: The new erato on January 24, 2010, 12:37:17 AM
How many points do you have to get before it makes a difference? I placed a 28 euro order there last year (Complete Brahms / Brilliant) and don't seem to have any points being applied to my total.The points appear in the confirming e-mail you receive. I seem to remember I got 8 points, whatever that's worth, for mye 60 Euro, 251 disc, purchase.
Post by: Maciek on January 24, 2010, 01:08:25 AM
How many points do you have to get before it makes a difference? I placed a 28 euro order there last year (Complete Brahms / Brilliant) and don't seem to have any points being applied to my total.
You have to use them up within approx. half a year, after that they're gone.
Post by: Wanderer on January 24, 2010, 01:38:32 AM
How many points do you have to get before it makes a difference? I placed a 28 euro order there last year (Complete Brahms / Brilliant) and don't seem to have any points being applied to my total.
- You have to use them within the next 183 days.
- You can't use them for orders that amount to less than 23 euros (p&p excluded).
- Each point amounts to 0,2 euros (so, 8 points = 1,6 euros).
Viel Lärm um nichts! ;D
Post by: Coopmv on January 24, 2010, 05:34:14 AM
How many points do you have to get before it makes a difference? I placed a 28 euro order there last year (Complete Brahms / Brilliant) and don't seem to have any points being applied to my total.
Some brick-and-mortar store/e-tailer combo like J&R in NYC has the frequent buyer program as well ...
Post by: Lethevich on January 25, 2010, 03:48:42 AM
Post by: Que on January 25, 2010, 10:03:15 AM
The sculptor is a genius - he's managed to make Brahms look Mongolian.
It's breath-takingly ugly... :o
Q
Post by: Wanderer on January 25, 2010, 01:31:43 PM
The sculptor is a genius - he's managed to make Brahms look Mongolian.
This reminds me of a local sculptor commissioned to provide a (what proved by general consensus to be a grossly dissimilar) bust of a famous Greek actress to be placed at a suburban Athenian square; it was withdrawn within a month (after much procrastination and one disapproving unknown "critic" replacing it one night on its pedestal with an ironing board:-).
Post by: Scarpia on January 28, 2010, 09:32:51 AM
However, I did pick up two releases that I had been contemplating for a while, both on hyperion.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Afzmic4aL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
and
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31eDzbM9y6L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
If I had gotten them for list price on Amazon I'd be out $260, it was less than 40 Euros, shipping included. Now, the proof of a pudding is in the eating. Let's see if they send them, or whether this site is actually an identity theft conspiracy directed at well heeled classical music fiends.
A reminder, if my wanderings on the site with Google translator are right, the sale ends on February 2.
Post by: The new erato on January 28, 2010, 10:35:41 AM
Like many, I've been tempted by some of the deals on the site at classique.abeillemusique.com, but in the end I resisted all of the enormous 100+ CD Brilliant Classics Boxes. I just can't imagine listening to so much music.I well understand that feeling. But I had been wanting the Haydn Baritone trios on Brilliant, as well as eyeing their Haydn Piano trios as a HIP alternative to my Beaux Art set. When I could get the whole 150 disc extravaganza for less than what the barytone set would cost me, I saw no reason to abstain, however much there is at least 60 discs in the set that doesn't interest me at all, and quite a bit more than that probably never will be played. Silly really, but such are the vagrancies of the marketplace.
Edit: I meant vagaries. ;D
Post by: Lethevich on January 28, 2010, 11:00:22 AM
Post by: MN Dave on January 28, 2010, 11:07:05 AM
Paying more for them seperately seems to make me value them better.
Heeheehee...
Post by: ammar on January 28, 2010, 12:29:00 PM
Just to say, I placed two orders with Abeille on the 19th and 22nd January. From the blurb on the website, I believed that they would be sent before 3pm next working day (all items were in stock). On the 27th, I received two e-mails (at 2am!) saying that both orders had been dispatched. I figured that they had combined the orders, but my 1st order arrived separately this morning (28th) via DHL.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on January 28, 2010, 05:34:08 PM
I have a similar problem with the Haydn box. I'm buying the component parts of that box for much more than it would cost to get them in the integral - the symphonies, quartets, keyboard trios and barytone trios. Paying more for them seperately seems to make me value them better.
I chose the third way: I have the Haydn box, but also separately the piano sonatas, piano trios and a lot of string quartets on Brilliant. :)
Post by: George on January 28, 2010, 06:08:19 PM
$16.34 over at amazon! 11 CD set.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000026OW3/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1264680517&sr=8-1&condition=new
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2010, 05:48:47 AM
Post by: Harry on January 29, 2010, 05:51:38 AM
My order was placed January 24 (Monday 1am, French time); as an American I don't expect to receive it for a while, but it hasn't shipped yet, either.
To me neither, I am still waiting.
Post by: Lethevich on January 29, 2010, 06:43:05 AM
Post by: Harry on January 29, 2010, 06:47:24 AM
One of mine arrived today. The packaging was odd - it was sellotaped up with Naxos.com branded tape ???
But the content was right and undamaged right? Sarah
Post by: Lethevich on January 29, 2010, 06:56:53 AM
But the content was right and undamaged right? SarahYep, all the discs also had plastic wrapping.
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2010, 08:50:43 AM
One of mine arrived today. The packaging was odd - it was sellotaped up with Naxos.com branded tape ???
When Abeille Musique sent me the Complete Brahms, it came wrapped in Naxos tape, too.
Post by: Drasko on January 29, 2010, 09:27:46 AM
Post by: Drasko on January 29, 2010, 11:36:09 AM
I will be placing an order on Sunday evening, and will gladly add to it any items that you want. Just let me know if that is OK with you.
That's perfectly ok with me. Many thanks my saponaceous friend! It's just one item, which I couldn't find anywhere else, and it's discounted on top of that. Will pm you the details.
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 03, 2010, 04:53:22 AM
Post by: Harry on February 03, 2010, 05:09:31 AM
Are the sales over?! Is it safe to come out again...
Yes it is ;D
Post by: Harry on February 03, 2010, 05:27:03 AM
Post by: Maciek on February 03, 2010, 05:57:10 AM
Are the sales over?! Is it safe to come out again...
Nope, I'm afraid they've extended the abeillemusique sale by a couple days (till the 7th). Darn, I was looking forward to Wednesday as a temptation-free day too. ;D
Post by: Antoine Marchand on February 03, 2010, 06:14:33 AM
Nope, I'm afraid they've extended the abeillemusique sale by a couple days (till the 7th). Darn, I was looking forward to Wednesday as a temptation-free day too. ;D
Oh, damn! Those sly Frenchmen know us very well. :)
Post by: The new erato on February 03, 2010, 06:31:26 AM
Nope, I'm afraid they've extended the abeillemusique sale by a couple days (till the 7th). Darn, I was looking forward to Wednesday as a temptation-free day too. ;DHoly crap. I avoided noting that due to them advertising in french only (not so devious after all?), and here you are blowing the news.
Post by: Scarpia on February 03, 2010, 09:45:44 AM
Post by: Renfield on February 03, 2010, 09:49:58 AM
How long does it take those Frenchies to ship? I ordered last week but no shipping notice yet.
They shipped in two working days for me, via DHL. Maybe US orders are more tricky.
Post by: Elgarian on February 03, 2010, 09:53:06 AM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0782124024628.jpg)
Box set offered for sale, for 14.99 euros, at jpc here:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-21-Klavierkonzerte/hnum/6348294 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-21-Klavierkonzerte/hnum/6348294)
I wanted a non-HIP set of Mozart piano concertos so that I could make comparisons with my Sofronitzki fortepiano HIP set, and while I can't find much review information about this Annerose Schmidt/Kurt Masur set, I get the impression that it's not outstanding, but respectable. Anyway, for my present purposes it seemed like a bargain, so I'm posting this info here in case it's of use to anyone else.
Post by: Scarpia on February 03, 2010, 10:02:47 AM
They shipped in two working days for me, via DHL. Maybe US orders are more tricky.
My order was in on Thursday. Anti-American discrimination is what it is!!! (Pass the freedom fries.) >:(
Post by: Renfield on February 03, 2010, 10:06:10 AM
My order was in on Thursday. Anti-American discrimination is what it is!!! (Pass the freedom fries.) >:(
You should've thought of that before that independence business. 8)
Edit: Which obviously alienated the French, who've had nothing whatsoever to do with revolutions in their recent history.
Post by: Scarpia on February 03, 2010, 10:08:17 AM
You should've thought of that before that independence business. 8)
Are you kidding, if it weren't for the revolution we'd still be under horrible tyranny (like Canada ???).
Post by: Renfield on February 03, 2010, 10:10:15 AM
Are you kidding, if it weren't for the revolution we'd still be under horrible tyranny (like Canada ???).
But you'd get better shipping times from defeated enemies of the Empire. That is, intuitively, a greater perk than freedom.
Something the Canadians no doubt realised in time. Ray? Todd?
Post by: Opus106 on February 03, 2010, 10:11:16 AM
I make this post with some trepidation. Is this a bargain?
Box set offered for sale, for 14.99 euros, at jpc here:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-21-Klavierkonzerte/hnum/6348294 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-21-Klavierkonzerte/hnum/6348294)
I wanted a non-HIP set of Mozart piano concertos so that I could make comparisons with my Sofronitzki fortepiano HIP set, and while I can't find much review information about this Annerose Schmidt/Kurt Masur set, I get the impression that it's not outstanding, but respectable. Anyway, for my present purposes it seemed like a bargain, so I'm posting this info here in case it's of use to anyone else.
Here's another set for your consideration.
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-23-Klavierkonzerte/hnum/7547854
It's not quite complete, but it's certainly well known and received.
Post by: Renfield on February 03, 2010, 10:13:23 AM
Here's another set for your consideration.
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-23-Klavierkonzerte/hnum/7547854
It's not quite complete, but it's certainly well known and received.
Marriner would put me off from it, but that's a very good price indeed. Hmm.
Post by: Scarpia on February 03, 2010, 10:19:22 AM
Marriner would put me off from it, but that's a very good price indeed. Hmm.
If you can find it, this one can't be beat. Both orchestra and piano handled with pluck.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41SDJYBPG6L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Post by: Lethevich on February 03, 2010, 10:32:53 AM
Maybe take the opportunity to buy seperate discs by various performers (with as little duplication as possible). Your worries about the Masur set are a good way to look at things - screw anything other than excellence in such widely-recorded repertoire, it's a waste of money no matter how much it costs.
Opus106 seems to have uncovered a gem. I was not aware the Brendel set was now so affordable. Brendel turns out gold in Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert, and Marriner and his band tend to make good accompanists.
Post by: Opus106 on February 03, 2010, 10:41:16 AM
Opus106 seems to have uncovered a gem. I was not aware the Brendel set was now so affordable. Brendel turns out gold in Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert, and Marriner and his band tend to make good accompanists.
It has been available for some months now; it's one of those only-available-in-Germany sets that I don't like to talk too much about. Incidentally, all his Schubert recordings are also available in a similarly-priced 7-CD box. Also available only in Germany. ::)
Post by: listener on February 03, 2010, 10:44:50 AM
If you can find it, this one can't be beat. Both orchestra and piano handled with pluck.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41SDJYBPG6L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Piano and orchestra both pizzicato?
Post by: Scarpia on February 03, 2010, 11:25:40 AM
Piano and orchestra both pizzicato?
Smart ass! Pluck in the figurative sense of the word, my friend.
Post by: Elgarian on February 03, 2010, 01:24:16 PM
Here's another set for your consideration.
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-23-Klavierkonzerte/hnum/7547854
It's not quite complete, but it's certainly well known and received.
I thought I'd thoroughly scoured jpc's special deals but I certainly missed that. (Am I the only one who finds the jpc search facility curiously unwieldy?) Thanks for this tip Navneeth. I must say, had I known about this, I'd have jumped at the chance of getting Brendel at such a price, and I'm now wondering whether to get one anyway. (This way madness lies, doesn't it?)
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 03, 2010, 01:38:16 PM
I thought I'd thoroughly scoured jpc's special deals but I certainly missed that. (Am I the only one who finds the jpc search facility curiously unwieldy?) Thanks for this tip Navneeth. I must say, had I known about this, I'd have jumped at the chance of getting Brendel at such a price, and I'm now wondering whether to get one anyway. (This way madness lies, doesn't it?)
It's 21.99 at Amazon.de.
Post by: Elgarian on February 03, 2010, 01:41:19 PM
Your worries about the Masur set are a good way to look at things - screw anything other than excellence in such widely-recorded repertoire, it's a waste of money no matter how much it costs.
Yes ... that's normally the view I take myself, and yet ... although I couldn't find much in the way of reviews of the Schmidt/Masur box, I did find a lot of samples of varying lengths, and what I heard seemed pretty lovely (albeit to these inexperienced Mozartian ears): the piano is a bit too 'upfront', perhaps, but the performances seemed full of life and charm - I fancied I could hear Mozart chuckling in all the right places, full of delight in his discoveries. So I'll be surprised if I come actually to regret this purchase. There are times when exploring the byways has its own appeal, travelling regions where neither Gramophone nor Penguin Guide have trod (possibly a necessary corrective, too, because I think I'm generally too strongly influenced by them). The most revelatory purchase I've made in recent months was the bargain HIP set of Mozart violin sonatas by Kuijken and Devos on Accent (thanks to a tip-off by Harry), and I don't think I've ever read a word about that, anywhere....
But yes, yes, I do take your point.
Post by: Scarpia on February 04, 2010, 08:52:32 AM
Post by: Wanderer on February 07, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
The classic Janowski rendition, repackaged and sold for pittance. 5.99 € at jpc.de. (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Erich-Wolfgang-Korngold-Violanta/hnum/1110566)
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/88697446602.jpg)
Still the benchmark for this enthralling work. 9.25 £ at mdt.co.uk. (http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//88697446602.htm)
Samples here. (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Erich-Wolfgang-Korngold-Die-tote-Stadt/hnum/9187133)
Post by: donaldopato on February 08, 2010, 05:41:40 AM
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 24, 2010, 07:30:07 AM
Post by: DarkAngel on February 24, 2010, 01:22:20 PM
Take your pick of mega ballet boxes:
35 CD Decca $60 new Amazon seller Blowitoutahere
50 CD EMI $60 new Amazon seller Blowitoutahere
I give slight edge in quality to EMI because I like Lanchbery's performances for EMI, plus price is cheaper per CD........I did buy the EMI box BTW, love my main man Blowitoutahere ;)
Check this huge list of contents for EMI box:
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=312634 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=312634)
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 25, 2010, 01:28:35 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51px0eG57lL._SL500_AA240_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517rmpXVhoL._SS500_.jpg)
Take your pick of mega ballet boxes:
35 CD Decca $60 new Amazon seller Blowitoutahere
50 CD EMI $60 new Amazon seller Blowitoutahere
I give slight edge in quality to EMI because I like Lanchbery's performances for EMI, plus price is cheaper per CD........I did buy the EMI box BTW, love my main man Blowitoutahere ;)
Check this huge list of contents for EMI box:
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=312634 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=312634)
On the Arkiv site, for many of the ballets, it says excerpts. If these are not the full ballets, it makes the EMI pretty uncompetitive (if you want the full ballets anyway). Have you gotten it yet to be able to determine this?
Post by: Harry on February 25, 2010, 01:31:12 AM
Ballet Masterpieces35 CDs
Erscheinungstermin: 15.9.2009
Verfügbarkeit: Artikel am Lager
DetailinformationenAdam: Giselle; Le Corsaire
+Weber: Aufforderung zum Tanz
+Chopin: Les Sylphides
+Luigini: Ballet egyptien
+Rossini / Respighi: La Boutique fantasque
+Rossini / Britten: Soirees musicales; Matinees musicales
+Delibes: Coppelia; Sylvia
+Delibes / Minkus: La Source
+Herold / Lanchbery: La Fille mal gardee
+Lecocq / Jacob: Mam'zelle Angot
+A. Khachaturian: Spartacus-Suite; Masquerade-Suite; Gayaneh
(Ausz.)
+Massenet / Lucas: Manon
+Offenbach / Rosenthal: Gaite parisienne
+Gounod: Ballettmusik aus Faust
+Prokofieff: Cincderella; Romeo & Julia
+Glasunow: Die Jahreszeiten
+Ravel: Daphnis et Chloe; Alborada del gracioso; La Valse
+J. Strauss II/Bayer: Aschenbrödel
+J. Strauss II: Ritter Pasman; An der schönen blauen Donau
+Strawinsky: Der Feuervogel; Petruschka; Le Sacre du
printemps
+Tschaikowsky: Dornröschen; Schwanensee; Der Nußknacker;
Ballettmusik aus "Eugen Onegin"
+Verdi: Ballettmusik aus "Otello"; La peregrina aus "Don
Carlos"; Marcia e ballabile aus "Aida"; Ballettmusik aus
"Macbeth"; Le quattro stationi aus "I Vespri Siciliani"
+Meyerbeer / Lambert: Les Patineurs
+kleine Ballettmusiken von Minkus, Pugni, Offenbach, Drigo,
Auber, D. Scarlatti, Thomas
Covent Garden Orchestra, English Chamber Orchestra,
National PO, London SO, New Philharmonia Orchestra,
Montreal SO, Cleveland Orchestra, Royal PO, Orchestre de la
Suisse Romande, Detroit SO, Berlin PO, Richard Bonynge,
John Lanchbery, Stanley Black, Charles Dutoit, Vladimir
Ashkenazy, Lorin Maazel, Ernest Ansermet, Antal Dorati,
Semyon Bychkov u. a.
Label: Dec , ADD/DDD, 1960-91
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 25, 2010, 01:58:04 AM
But another question, has the Decca set the complete ballets, for I remember vaguely that it is also a excerpts release.
I had the same question, but Amazon has this as download as well (so we can see all the tracks). I compared the Giselle and Delibes discs (all of which I have complete with the same artists) and they match. So the Deccas seems to have complete versions (not including the excerpts).
Post by: Harry on February 25, 2010, 02:11:17 AM
I had the same question, but Amazon has this as download as well (so we can see all the tracks). I compared the Giselle and Delibes discs (all of which I have complete with the same artists) and they match. So the Deccas seems to have complete versions (not including the excerpts).
So that will be the box to go for, well lets see if Abeille has it cheap, for JPC sells it at 58 euro's, a little steep for some very old recordings.
Post by: DarkAngel on February 25, 2010, 05:14:06 AM
On the Arkiv site, for many of the ballets, it says excerpts. If these are not the full ballets, it makes the EMI pretty uncompetitive (if you want the full ballets anyway). Have you gotten it yet to be able to determine this?
EMI box are not complete ballet if noted as excerpts in track list.........but they are extended excerpts.
For instance Tchaikovsky 3 ballets suites can fit on 1 CD, but the extended excerpts require 2.5 Cds
I would have preferred EMI box expand to 70+ CDs and have all complete works, but looks like this is more of an extended survey and not complete collected works
Do not have the Decca box so cannot comment, buyer needs to do homework
Post by: DarkAngel on February 25, 2010, 05:36:50 AM
So that will be the box to go for, well lets see if Abeille has it cheap, for JPC sells it at 58 euro's, a little steep for some very old recordings.
It does appear that the Decca box has fewer but more complete works, the EMI box has more works but many are extended excerpts and not complete works......take your pick
BTW these are not some old mono recordings, they are stereo and sound very good, I have many of the complete sets now
Decca box
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=282752 (http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=282752)
Post by: Harry on February 25, 2010, 05:53:35 AM
Post by: DarkAngel on February 25, 2010, 06:44:32 AM
For people who want to be more complete......
If you can find the Fete Du Ballet box of ballet rarities for good price there is little overlap with 35CD Decca box and you would have just about everything a ballet fan would need......
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 25, 2010, 06:50:42 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51D47b6gPML._SL500_AA240_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51px0eG57lL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
For people who want to be more complete......
If you can find the Fete Du Ballet box of ballet rarities for good price there is little overlap with 35CD Decca box and you would have just about everything a ballet fan would need......
That fete du ballet box is one of the best purchases I ever made. Much of the music is terribly rare and hard to find. And the performances are outstanding. I play this often and I just don't tire of it. It is one of the few sets I've ever bought where I would willingly buy it for retail price (if I had to replace it for example). It really is worth the time and effort.
Post by: Harry on February 25, 2010, 07:18:20 AM
Post by: Opus106 on February 25, 2010, 07:24:16 AM
That box with 10 cd's is not to be had under 60 euro's :P
At a discounted price of $55.64: http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Decca/4685782 . :)
Post by: Harry on February 25, 2010, 08:44:49 AM
At a discounted price of $55.64: http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Decca/4685782 . :)
Thanks ordered that one, the other box is quite expensive there!
The 35 Decca box I ordered in Holland
Post by: stingo on February 26, 2010, 09:20:13 AM
ETA: Saw the info on an earlier page - excerpts.
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 26, 2010, 11:53:26 AM
On the ballet boxes, are they excerpts from the ballets or the full scores?
ETA: Saw the info on an earlier page - excerpts.
Appears that the EMI is excerpts. The Decca MAsterpieces box appears to be mostly complete. Fete du Ballet is a mix (and is mostly rarer stuff).
Post by: nigeld on March 05, 2010, 02:22:48 AM
I thought this 6cd box from EMI was good value at £9.50 although maybe too much of a mixture of artists. I decided instead to go for the 10cd set of Rubinstein for £28 from MDT. Still pretty good value I think?
Post by: George on March 10, 2010, 06:57:01 PM
Not the best transfer, but for $7.99 (MP3 format) it's a good way to sample the composers performances of his own works.
Link (http://www.amazon.com/Rachmaninoff-plays-Piano-Concertos-Pieces/dp/B0030ME416/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1268271433&sr=301-1)
Post by: Manos on March 19, 2010, 03:00:57 PM
(http://www.arkivmusic.com/graphics/covers/non-muze/full/392195.jpg)
Post by: Scarpia on March 22, 2010, 08:22:09 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YZESEPQ6L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
zoverstocks, a marketplace seller on amazon.co.uk has some very fine deals. I have my fingers crossed regarding their shipping and customer service.
Post by: Renfield on March 22, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Got this one, 5 cds, for 6.73 pounds, plus 3 pounds shipping. A few days ago got Gary Cooper's WTC on ASV for 3.99 pounds.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YZESEPQ6L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
zoverstocks, a marketplace seller on amazon.co.uk has some very fine deals. I have my fingers crossed regarding their shipping and customer service.
I am also keeping my eye on that very seller, for that very item.
Do let us know how it turns out; I'm a little worried by just how good an offer this is for a new copy, even from 'overstock'...
Post by: Novi on March 22, 2010, 10:18:03 AM
zoverstocks, a marketplace seller on amazon.co.uk has some very fine deals. I have my fingers crossed regarding their shipping and customer service.
I've bought from this seller before - both used and new items - no problems. :)
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on March 22, 2010, 10:23:32 AM
My best buys from them were the RVW Symphonies, 7cd Naxos set for £4, I currently have some Schnittke and Bruckner's 8th on order at just over £1 each, the Bruckner a 2cd set off the beaten path version by D R Davies.
Post by: Elgarian on March 22, 2010, 02:16:34 PM
I am also keeping my eye on that very seller, for that very item. [Elgar/Andrew Davis set]For what it's worth, I think there are some fine performances in that box, though it's perhaps a bit uneven. I listened to it for the first time in a little cottage tucked into the side of the Malvern Hills, and wasn't disappointed by anything that I heard. His Enigma and Cockaigne are particularly good, and although I seem to recall that Penguin Guide thought little of his 1st symphony, I find it very satisfying. Seeing this exposure of it here inclines me to blow the dust off it and spin the discs again.
Do let us know how it turns out; I'm a little worried by just how good an offer this is for a new copy, even from 'overstock'...
Post by: Orpheus on March 23, 2010, 07:52:25 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yw1y5W7JL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/No%C3%ABl-Baroque-Compilation/dp/B002MPETW6/ref=tpi_image_33?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_p=94692307&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0Z3E6TDNQ7ZFWCTGNCSB&pf_rd_i=301174 (http://www.amazon.fr/No%C3%ABl-Baroque-Compilation/dp/B002MPETW6/ref=tpi_image_33?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_p=94692307&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0Z3E6TDNQ7ZFWCTGNCSB&pf_rd_i=301174)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on March 27, 2010, 11:52:28 AM
I'm still working on the Mozart 21st, but the 9th is really lovely playing. Vibrant, bouncy and everything the Jeunehomme should be. Loved it.
The Bruckner 8th with DRD won't be everyone's cup of tea, read the reviews to see about the changes to this edition. A good stoic performance, not quite top 10...maybe top 20, still it was enjoyable, nonetheless.
Just couldn't turn Schnittke down, especially at this price, on the Profil label. Looking forward to this later this evening, when all is quiet.
Mozart - Piano Concertos Nos 9 & 21 - Sony
Lawrence Foster (Conductor), North German Radio Symphony Orchestra
Yu Kosuge (Piano)
Here: Mozart 9-21 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Piano-Concertos-Nos-21/dp/B000FBH4D0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269718065&sr=1-1)
Bruckner - Symphony 8 in C Minor (Dennis Russell Davies - Bruckner Orch Linz)
Here: Bruckner 8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Symphony-Minor-Davies-Bruckner-Orchester/dp/B0002GAAFM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1269718275&sr=1-1-spell)
Schnittke - Cello & Piano Works - Tatjana Geringas (Piano)
Here: Schnittke Cello (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Schnittke-Cello-Piano-Works-Alfred/dp/B000TCWZVQ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269718369&sr=1-10)
8)
Post by: Coopmv on March 27, 2010, 02:12:33 PM
It's not Christmas' time, but this is perhaps a valuable offer
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yw1y5W7JL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/No%C3%ABl-Baroque-Compilation/dp/B002MPETW6/ref=tpi_image_33?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_p=94692307&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0Z3E6TDNQ7ZFWCTGNCSB&pf_rd_i=301174 (http://www.amazon.fr/No%C3%ABl-Baroque-Compilation/dp/B002MPETW6/ref=tpi_image_33?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_p=94692307&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0Z3E6TDNQ7ZFWCTGNCSB&pf_rd_i=301174)
Orpheus ;)
Indeed, I have never bought a bad recording on DHM ...
Post by: Lethevich on March 27, 2010, 09:12:21 PM
Edit: found some more, for those interested -
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41P8W11D7SL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clementi-Sonatas-Duets-Capriccios-Vol-11/dp/B000007T8H/ref=sr_1_3627?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269753944&sr=1-3627) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Qghoss%2B%2BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Schubert-Piano-Sonatas-784-894/dp/B0000013XB/ref=sr_1_3644?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269753999&sr=1-3644) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61YSMR575KL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Brahms-Janos-Starker/dp/B000667FWY/ref=sr_1_3653?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269754078&sr=1-3653)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510gSKZgQ0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jewry-God-Known-Joseph-Barnby/dp/B00005Y8MI/ref=sr_1_3662?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269754126&sr=1-3662) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zPnPN9ffL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/String-Quartets-New-Hungarian-Quartet/dp/B0000C9V60/ref=sr_1_3666?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269754126&sr=1-3666) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31avAhfBDgL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kantaten-Bwv-154-Js-Bach/dp/B000NY16AG/ref=sr_1_3669?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269754126&sr=1-3669)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31J2R9AEWML._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Die-Schopfung-Highlights-Joseph-Haydn/dp/B000GEIOJE/ref=sr_1_3674?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1269754188&sr=1-3674)
It looks like the £1.24 bracket is a loss - only the Schnittke is in it, so no wins there.
Post by: Orpheus on March 29, 2010, 09:50:22 AM
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Orpheus :P
Post by: Scarpia on March 31, 2010, 07:49:20 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516pw85rfpL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Used the proceeds from selling the Neumann/Czech, which was really dull.
Post by: DavidW on March 31, 2010, 08:20:13 AM
Post by: Scarpia on March 31, 2010, 02:05:31 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wxIiOwqNL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
for $15. The question is how much would they have to pay me to listen to it. >:D If they had put out the Bruggens set instead in would have been more interesting.
Post by: snyprrr on May 22, 2010, 05:06:52 AM
Post by: Que on May 22, 2010, 02:57:56 PM
Just to let you know the Bvhaast site is having a great sale. Many things are 5 EU and 2.50 EU. I got a few things that were over $40 on Amazon! Check it out!
And here is the link:
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~wbk/BVart.GIF) (http://www.xs4all.nl/~wbk/BV_cat_list.html)
Q
Post by: Brian on June 11, 2010, 01:16:35 PM
It's a full Bruckner cycle, with Te Deum, on 11 CDs, for 10 euros at JPC (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Anton-Bruckner-Symphonien-Nr-0-9/hnum/3267241). I don't know much about the recordings, but there are sound samples for every track.
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w183/front/0/5028421930077.jpg)
For 6 euros (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Gabriel-Faure-S%E4mtliche-Klavierwerke/hnum/7615528), a GREAT deal. Piano lovers, buy!
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0724358599725.jpg)
Not as super-duper a bargain as the others at 20 euros (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Franz-Lehar-Operetten/hnum/1311356), but you get 7 Lehar operettas.
Post by: ammar on June 15, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
A mere snip at only 19 euros per disc - http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00118YMAE/ (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00118YMAE/) ::)
Post by: Lethevich on June 23, 2010, 04:08:09 AM
http://www.naxosdirect.co.uk/page/new%20year%20sale
Post by: Coopmv on June 23, 2010, 04:01:07 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wNrNvETGL._SS500_.jpg)
A mere snip at only 19 euros per disc - http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00118YMAE/ (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00118YMAE/) ::)
No matter. Karajan is still the god of classical music in Japan and the Japanese will buy these special editions with both hands ...
Post by: ammar on June 27, 2010, 03:36:06 AM
One of Amazon.co.uk's major marketplace sellers, Zoverstocks, has a number of classical CDs reduced to £2.98. Now, I know they're all listed as used but, having had numerous dealings with them, I'd say that 80% of their used CDs are 'as new', and the remaining 20% show very minor signs of use. Through my great powers of deduction, I'm guessing that they resell stock returned from major UK retailers (a la Entertainment UK's old Amazon.co.uk presence, Directoffers - EUK was the distribution arm of the 'dearly departed' Woolworths store, FYI).
So...
Go here - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/browse.html?node=125553011
Do a search for the label you're interested in, sort price from low to high, get to the £2.98 mark and hopefully there will be something of interest. Try Hyperion first and you'll see what I mean.
(Best bet is to stick to the independents; I've just ordered a bundle (what is the proper collective term for CDs?) of Hyperion, Bis and Coro CDs)
Happy hunting ;D
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2010, 09:33:58 AM
Some bargains to be had today, but you'll have to work for them...
One of Amazon.co.uk's major marketplace sellers, Zoverstocks, has a number of classical CDs reduced to £2.98. Now, I know they're all listed as used but, having had numerous dealings with them, I'd say that 80% of their used CDs are 'as new', and the remaining 20% show very minor signs of use. Through my great powers of deduction, I'm guessing that they resell stock returned from major UK retailers (a la Entertainment UK's old Amazon.co.uk presence, Directoffers - EUK was the distribution arm of the 'dearly departed' Woolworths store, FYI).
So...
Go here - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/browse.html?node=125553011
Do a search for the label you're interested in, sort price from low to high, get to the £2.98 mark and hopefully there will be something of interest. Try Hyperion first and you'll see what I mean.
(Best bet is to stick to the independents; I've just ordered a bundle (what is the proper collective term for CDs?) of Hyperion, Bis and Coro CDs)
Happy hunting ;D
They have several volumes of Jeno Jando's Beethoven piano sonatas available for as low as £0.01! At that price, I find them hard to resist.
But...what will shipping to America cost?
Post by: ammar on June 27, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
They have several volumes of Jeno Jando's Beethoven piano sonatas available for as low as £0.01! At that price, I find them hard to resist.
But...what will shipping to America cost?
I'm guessing that the standard marketplace shipping rates apply - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=3149611 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=3149611)
All my (domestic) orders were dispatched individually, don't know if they would 'parcel up' overseas orders - I've fallen foul of that method in the past (domestic sales tax + import tax + courier's administrative charge :o) )
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2010, 07:35:14 PM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 28, 2010, 04:44:44 AM
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Sarge
Post by: Opus106 on June 28, 2010, 05:14:04 AM
Carlos Kleiber's DG recordings have been boxed; 12 CDs for 35 Euro. (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003GRW6TM/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1BBG7F90BKX0JBSZ5TGF&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375173&pf_rd_i=301128)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V4T0mamtL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Sarge
Too bad I have all the orchestral works sans the Schubert 3rd, and I'm not interested in (the) opera(s) right now. DG have also released a 10-DVD set with live performances including two years of the of VPO New Year's Concert.
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 28, 2010, 05:19:27 AM
Too bad I have all the orchestral works sans the Schubert 3rd, and I'm not interested in [the] operaright now. DG have also released a 10-DVD set with live performances including two years of the of VPO New Year's Concert.
I already have everything, including the operas. I was considering the box, though, just to get the CD version of Freischütz (I've been making do with the LPs) but noticed the regular edition of the opera is only 18 Euro now. So...no box for me.
Sarge
Post by: flyingdutchman on June 28, 2010, 04:49:04 PM
No matter. Karajan is still the god of classical music in Japan and the Japanese will buy these special editions with both hands ...
Not they won't
Post by: Scarpia on June 28, 2010, 04:53:28 PM
Not they won't
If DG had done what EMI did, and package his entire discography in a very compact package, I probably would have bought it. I have enough of his old CDs in their original CD editions, that I could probably have sold them to fanatics on ebay and raised enough money to offset the megaset. But, it was not to be.
Post by: listener on June 30, 2010, 09:08:14 AM
J.S. Bach: Complete Edition (CD - 157 discs) $159.49
157CD+2DVD+1DVD-ROM.
Complete works on CD
MANY NEW AND PERIOD-INSTRUMENT RECORDINGS
Includes Diapason award-winning recordings
NEW EDITION INCLUDES MARKUS-PASSION
DVDs of Matthäus Passion & Johannes-Passion
COMPLETE SCORES ON DVD-ROM
Sung texts and translations booklet notes & biographies
Brilliant Classics Complete Editions - 94050
Scheduled for release on 9 August 2010.
That's all the info for now.
Post by: Opus106 on June 30, 2010, 09:18:25 AM
There's a "Complete Bach" box coming from Brilliant next month (Presto news)
J.S. Bach: Complete Edition (CD - 157 discs) $159.49
157CD+2DVD+1DVD-ROM.
Complete works on CD
MANY NEW AND PERIOD-INSTRUMENT RECORDINGS
Includes Diapason award-winning recordings
NEW EDITION INCLUDES MARKUS-PASSION
DVDs of Matthäus Passion & Johannes-Passion
COMPLETE SCORES ON DVD-ROM
Sung texts and translations booklet notes & biographies
Brilliant Classics Complete Editions - 94050
Scheduled for release on 9 August 2010.
That's all the info for now.
Thanks. Some of the names involved in the performances:
Kussmaul, Hengelbrock, Schornsheim, Belder, Lubotsy, ter Linden,
Preston, Pinnock, Savall, Lindberg, Fagius, Zomer, Huggett,
Berben,Wuyts,Holton,Meel,Holland Boy Choir,Mathis,Wentz,
Belder,La Stravaganza,Kirkby,Hill,Agnew,Chance,Brandenburg
Consort,The Sixteen,Christophers,Netherlands Bach
I don't know if all of them were part of the earlier box. I wonder if the recording of 1080 included in the set is the one by Hill (for Hänssler).
JPC (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/lang/en/currency/EUR/hnum/7359286/art_hex/4a6f68616e6e2d53656261737469616e2d426163682d426163682d45646974696f6e2d4272696c6c69616e742d436c6173736963732d4e65756175666c6167652d32303130)
Post by: (: premont :) on June 30, 2010, 02:04:24 PM
Thanks. Some of the names involved in the performances:
Kussmaul, Hengelbrock, Schornsheim, Belder, Lubotsy, ter Linden,
Preston, Pinnock, Savall, Lindberg, Fagius, Zomer, Huggett,
Berben,Wuyts,Holton,Meel,Holland Boy Choir,Mathis,Wentz,
Belder,La Stravaganza,Kirkby,Hill,Agnew,Chance,Brandenburg
Consort,The Sixteen,Christophers,Netherlands Bach
I don't know if all of them were part of the earlier box. I wonder if the recording of 1080 included in the set is the one by Hill (for Hänssler).
It must be Martyn Hill, the English tenor!
So no new names, as far as I am concerned.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 30, 2010, 03:54:18 PM
It must be Martyn Hill, the English tenor!
So no new names, as far as I am concerned.
I would say the same, no new material there.
Post by: Opus106 on June 30, 2010, 10:41:25 PM
Post by: OzRadio on July 01, 2010, 05:20:05 AM
There's a "Complete Bach" box coming from Brilliant next month (Presto news)
J.S. Bach: Complete Edition (CD - 157 discs) $159.49
They already did one complete Bach box set, can't they do a big fat complete Handel? I'd jump on that.
Post by: Scarpia on July 01, 2010, 06:57:37 AM
Post by: Orpheus on July 14, 2010, 11:19:08 PM
(https://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0028947301523.jpg)
Post by: DavidW on July 15, 2010, 08:05:09 AM
What I'd like is the cheapest decent recording of the complete Bach Cantatas. I think I will probably find most of it less than riveting, but I'd like to have it. Brilliant has a set, but I seem to recall it being panned by most people.
If you read this Harnoncourt/Leonhardt.
Post by: Elgarian on July 15, 2010, 11:39:20 AM
About 30-odd years ago I went through the anguish of deciding which Ring to buy, against a background of not having any money. The obvious best choice back then was the Decca/Solti recording, but it was simply out of reach, and I settled on the significantly cheaper but still highly regarded Bohm/Bayreuth version. Well, I played the grooves out of those LPs and thought it was a superb recording, but I always hankered after a Solti set.
The day came when I disposed of all my vinyl and therefore needed a Ring on CD. Again I was faced with a similar choice; and again I chose Bohm, because the Solti was twice the price. And Bohm is still all I have, apart from the 2CDs of Solti excerpts that I turn to whenever I read John Culshaw's book and want to taste the flavour of what I've missed all these years. Somehow, I just never could justify to myself spending over £100 for a recording that, however important it seemed to me 30 years ago, probably belonged more to my past than my future.
Today I was browsing through Amazon uk and saw the Solti Ring on offer for £51, postage free. That was less than half the price I normally associate with that set, and my order was in place before you could say 'Hojotoho! Hojotoho!'. Maybe the Solti Ring has dipped down to these sort of price levels before, and I just missed it? I don't know. But if anyone else out there wants a fifty quid Solti Ring, here's how to get one, here and now:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Ring-Nibelungen-Richard/dp/B0000042H4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1279225056&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Ring-Nibelungen-Richard/dp/B0000042H4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1279225056&sr=1-1)
Post by: DavidRoss on July 16, 2010, 03:27:39 AM
Just ordered for € 26... ;)From whom, please?
(https://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0028947301523.jpg)
Post by: The new erato on July 16, 2010, 03:29:25 AM
From whom, please?jpc.de had it for 20 € last I checked.
Post by: DavidRoss on July 16, 2010, 03:31:43 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XST9HX1ZL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
But if anyone else out there wants a fifty quid Solti Ring, here's how to get one, here and now:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Ring-Nibelungen-Richard/dp/B0000042H4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1279225056&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Ring-Nibelungen-Richard/dp/B0000042H4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1279225056&sr=1-1)
Nice find, Alan, and thanks for sharing the source. Solti's Ring deserves all the praise it's received over the years, making the best case I've heard for Wagner's epic.
Post by: DavidRoss on July 16, 2010, 03:32:59 AM
jpc.de had it for 20 € last I checked.Wow...thanks! I'll look into it!
Post by: Elgarian on July 16, 2010, 05:32:04 AM
Nice find, Alan, and thanks for sharing the source. Solti's Ring deserves all the praise it's received over the years, making the best case I've heard for Wagner's epic.Nice to see you back, Dave. All I want now is a cheap Goodall (English) Ring, and I'll be a happy Wagnerian. I was one of the privileged audience who attended English National Opera's Twilight of the Gods with Rita Hunter in Manchester, back in about 1974/5. We sweltered in the heat, hour after hour, while she transformed herself into an unforgettable Brunnhilde before our eyes. I remember the applause going on and on, afterwards, until our hands hurt and our arms ached.
Post by: karlhenning on July 16, 2010, 05:42:46 AM
Post by: DavidRoss on July 16, 2010, 06:11:44 AM
BTW, the Brüggen box of Haydn symphonies is still available from jpc. Even with the high cost of postage to the States, it's still quite a deal and I jumped on it. Thanks, erato!
Post by: Que on July 18, 2010, 11:36:32 AM
(single disc: €5, double €8, some issues of the Händel Italian cantatas series for €10)
Q
Post by: Coopmv on July 20, 2010, 04:51:09 PM
Holy crap! I found 20 CDs adding up to 20 pounds' worth of goods, but the shipping charge is 58 quid - adding up to $123 US dollars for a bunch of overstocked old Naxos CDs! No way. If only I were in England :-/
Brian, Isn't this often the case - great prices on CD's but lousy shipping costs?
Post by: The new erato on July 20, 2010, 09:30:45 PM
Post by: George on July 21, 2010, 02:26:50 AM
There's a bunch of new EMI Icons on the way, Fischer, Fournier, Kempe, Larrocha and Wunderlich IIRC.
Edwin or Annie?
Post by: Orpheus on July 21, 2010, 02:38:37 AM
Edwin or Annie?
Edwin!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edwin-Fischer-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1279712299&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edwin-Fischer-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNKG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1279712299&sr=1-1)
Post by: George on July 21, 2010, 02:46:00 AM
Post by: Brian on July 21, 2010, 05:44:13 AM
Fournier,
But...but...the Bach and Dvorak are on DG!
Post by: The new erato on July 21, 2010, 06:02:43 AM
But...but...the Bach and Dvorak are on DG!Maybe they stole it and that's why it is cheap. Or you can take it up with DG and see the price skyroceket.
Post by: Orpheus on July 21, 2010, 06:13:46 AM
But...but...the Bach and Dvorak are on DG!
Dvorak is the first recording with Kubelik (18-19 Oct 1948 owned by EMI ;)
Post by: Orpheus on July 21, 2010, 06:22:19 AM
Post by: (: premont :) on July 26, 2010, 06:56:42 AM
Thanks. Some of the names involved in the performances:
Kussmaul, Hengelbrock, Schornsheim, Belder, Lubotsy, ter Linden,
Preston, Pinnock, Savall, Lindberg, Fagius, Zomer, Huggett,
Berben,Wuyts,Holton,Meel,Holland Boy Choir,Mathis,Wentz,
Belder,La Stravaganza,Kirkby,Hill,Agnew,Chance,Brandenburg
Consort,The Sixteen,Christophers,Netherlands Bach
I don't know if all of them were part of the earlier box.
I have to correct my former statement about new recordings in the new Brilliant Bach box.
Leon Berben´s horrible WTC has been replaced by Pieter-Jan Belder´s WTC, - a great improvement.
The Violin concertos by Emmy Verhey have been replaced by recordings by Dimitri Sitkovetsky - not necessarily an improvement.
Stephen Preston´s Flute sonatas have been replaced by the Flute sonatas by Jan Wentz, and furthermore I suspect that Wentz´s Musicalsches Opfer also is included in the new release, - certainly a reduction in value IMO.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 08:22:43 AM
I have to correct my former statement about new recordings in the new Brilliant Bach box.
Leon Berben´s horrible WTC has been replaced by Pieter-Jan Belder´s WTC, - a great improvement.
The Violin concertos by Emmy Verhey have been replaced by recordings by Dimitri Sitkovetsky - not necessarily an improvement.
Stephen Preston´s Flute sonatas have been replaced by the Flute sonatas by Jan Wentz, and furthermore I suspect that Wentz´s Musicalsches Opfer also is included in the new release, - certainly a reduction in value IMO.
I understood your previous reply in the way that no "new recordings", i.e., released for first time on Brilliant Classics, were included in the new big box. But, obviously, during the last years Brilliant has replaced for own releases a considerable amount of material previously licensed from another labels. I would add to your list the following discs:
- Brandenburg Concertos: Originally, Consort of London, Robert Haydon Clark (excellent). Now: Musica Amphion/ Pieter-Jan Belder.
- Orchestral Suites: Originally, Consort of London, Robert Haydon Clark. Now: La Stravaganza Köln/ Andrew Manze (licensed from Denon).
- Concerti for 2, 3 & 4 harpsichords: Originally: Schornsheim, Heiller et. al. Now: Pieter-Jan Belder, Menno van Delft, Siebe Henstra et al/ Musica Amphion.
- Cello Suites: Originally, Robert Cohen (cello). Now: Jaap ter Linden.
IMO, the only real improvement is represented for the Cello Suites by ter Linden. The Orchestral Suites licensed from Denon are also excellent, but Robert Haydon Clark and his group were very good (although on modern instruments).
Finally, I agree with you, the replacement of the Flute Sonatas is a loss for future buyers. On the other hand, Belder for Berben will be a blessing. :D
Post by: Opus106 on July 26, 2010, 09:07:41 AM
I was, in fact, recently looking around the web for recordings of these works (seeing how much I love what Bach has done with the oboe and flute in his cantatas and such), but sadly, I could not find not many (HIPPI recordings).
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 09:28:03 AM
Is the recording of the flute sonatas the two of you are referring to the same as the one available from CRD -- Pinnock, Preston and Savall?
I was, in fact, recently looking around the web for recordings of these works (seeing how much I love what Bach has done with the oboe and flute in his cantatas and such), but sadly, I could not find not many (HIPPI recordings).
That's right, Navneeth; those two excellent discs were licensed from CRD. Unfortunately, some of the best versions of the flute sonatas are really hard to find, I'm thinking in Barthold Kuijken (2 CD-set, DHM) and Masahiro Arita (2 CD-set, Denon). That said, Janet See (HM) is also a very good choice (great price, too!); the same with Barthold Kuijken on Accent (just one CD with the “authentic” sonatas). I would avoid the aforementioned Jed Wentz; he is a virtuoso, but his tempi and general style in these works are totally unjustified. :)
Post by: Opus106 on July 26, 2010, 09:30:13 AM
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2010, 09:59:57 AM
I would avoid the aforementioned Jed Wentz; he is a virtuoso, but his tempi and general style in these works are totally unjustified. :)
I beg your pardon, but I do not agree with this rather hard statement. Where is it written that it should be played in a certain style and tempi.
We could hardly ask Bach now could we?
I think Jed Wentz is a excellent choice in these works. :)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 10:42:34 AM
I beg your pardon, but I do not agree with this rather hard statement. Where is it written that it should be played in a certain style and tempi.
We could hardly ask Bach now could we?
I think Jed Wentz is a excellent choice in these works. :)
If you want your Bach played in gallant style, I don't have any problem at all, dear Harry… But any day I prefer Barthold Kuijken, Stephen Preston, Masahiro Arita, Marc Hantaï or Janet See -over Jed Wentz- in this repertoire. They are more consistent with the idea that many hours of listening –I know you are a dedicated listener- and some readings have left in me about how to interpret the music of Bach. Just as an exercise, tell me if the Andante of BWV 1030 really sounds like an "andante" (= walker, to walk) in your ears.
:)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 10:48:48 AM
Thanks, Antoine.
You're welcome, Navneeth. For some reason, I forgot another of my favourite versions:
(http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/001/565/0000156535_350.jpg)
Really, an exceptional disc. :)
Post by: Opus106 on July 26, 2010, 10:53:31 AM
You're welcome, Navneeth. For some reason, I forgot another of my favourite versions:
(http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/001/565/0000156535_350.jpg)
Really, an exceptional disc. :)
So, essentially, everything except the Wentz? ;D (I just sampled the first allegro from
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
So, essentially, everything except the Wentz? ;D
Not really. For example, I wouldn't either recommend Pahud/Pinnock or Nicolet/Richter, among the versions that I have.
Post by: Opus106 on July 26, 2010, 11:08:56 AM
Not really. For example, I wouldn't either recommend Pahud/Pinnock or Nicolet/Richter, among the versions that I have.
I was just kidding. :)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 11:16:17 AM
I was just kidding. :)
I know, I know, funny boy. ;D I just wrote that "for the record". ;)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 11:24:34 AM
... I just sampled the first allegro from 1080..
:o
Post by: Opus106 on July 26, 2010, 11:29:43 AM
:o
If I remember correctly, the last time you posted one of these, it was meant to convey amazement, in a good sort of way. Does that hold now also? ;) :)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 11:34:49 AM
If I remember correctly, the last time you posted one of these, it was meant to convey amazement, in a good sort of way. Does that hold now also? ;) :)
Oh, yes. The Art of Fugue on baroque flute will always be an event in itself. :D
Post by: Opus106 on July 26, 2010, 11:37:03 AM
Oh, yes. The Art of Fugue on baroque flute will always be an event in itself. :D
Oops! :-[
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2010, 12:48:44 PM
If you want your Bach played in gallant style, I don't have any problem at all, dear Harry… But any day I prefer Barthold Kuijken, Stephen Preston, Masahiro Arita, Marc Hantaï or Janet See -over Jed Wentz- in this repertoire. They are more consistent with the idea that many hours of listening –I know you are a dedicated listener- and some readings have left in me about how to interpret the music of Bach. Just as an exercise, tell me if the Andante of BWV 1030 really sounds like an "andante" (= walker, to walk) in your ears.
:)
That would be a discussion about tempi, thats very dangerous, remembering a dispute I had with a Beethoven addict about the interpretation of tempi Zinman is using in his Beethoven. Would you forgive me, if I dare not go into a discussion about tempi? Certainly not in the open. PM me about it if you please.
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2010, 12:50:13 PM
You're welcome, Navneeth. For some reason, I forgot another of my favourite versions:
(http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/001/565/0000156535_350.jpg)
Really, an exceptional disc. :)
I have that too, and agree about its excellence. :)
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2010, 12:51:09 PM
So, essentially, everything except the Wentz? ;D (I just sampled the first allegro from10801079, and he is indeed fast. It's flowing nicely, but too rapidly for my tastes, given that I come from listening to CMW/Harnoncourt in this particular work.)
Well I rather like that. Fast and furious.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 26, 2010, 01:06:08 PM
That would be a discussion about tempi, thats very dangerous, remembering a dispute I had with a Beethoven addict about the interpretation of tempi Zinman is using in his Beethoven. Would you forgive me, if I dare not go into a discussion about tempi? Certainly not in the open. PM me about it if you please.
A rough dispute between us? It's not a realistic possibility, Harry. You know I appreciate and respect your opinions. :)
Post by: Guido on July 26, 2010, 02:46:01 PM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on July 26, 2010, 02:58:08 PM
Martinu's 6 symphonies recorded on Chandos - 3 CDs, something like £8.50 on Amazon at the moment. A magnificent recent purchase - I can't recommend this enough, and also cant thank the person who recommended them to me enough!
I grabbed that last week. An astonishing bargain. Was it a mistake by Amazon? It was odd: they had the Thomson Martinu box listed twice: for £40, and for £8 ...I decided to order the latter ;D Now, if only they make the same mistake with Thomson's RVW cycle, I'll be a happy camper.
Sarge
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2010, 11:17:47 PM
A rough dispute between us? It's not a realistic possibility, Harry. You know I appreciate and respect your opinions. :)
Allright than, you know I want to keep peace amongst us all, but since you make me comfortable, I tell you this. I think the swift tempi applied by Jed Wentz very sensible. I do not take the tempo markings by Bach as fixed at all. There is place and space for such a interpretation, like there is for David Zinman's very swift tempi. Everyone fell over him because of it, but Beethoven's own markings gave him the tools to apply it. Its all about hearing! If you can hear the inner tempi feel them, as Herbert von Karajan said, you know what the right tempi are, regardless of what is written down. When I listen to a piece I can hear if the tempi are wrong or right, it has to do with how the notes were written down. If the tempi are not right in my ears the work is ruined for me. There is not much music around that can hold its own if you lower or speed the tempi too much. I am very inadequate in explaining this but there you go, its the best I can. I trashed so many recordings in the early days, that had to do with tempi, starting with Claudio Abbado's interpretation of the Brahms Symphonies on DGG, I broke the records in several pieces, and that was the start of a long career. I do it less now though. :)
Post by: Harry on July 27, 2010, 12:19:53 AM
I grabbed that last week. An astonishing bargain. Was it a mistake by Amazon? It was odd: they had the Thomson Martinu box listed twice: for £40, and for £8 ...I decided to order the latter ;D Now, if only they make the same mistake with Thomson's RVW cycle, I'll be a happy camper.
Sarge
I bought it at JPCde for 8,99 euro's so that fits. And I told all on GMG it was so, but to no avail, still wondering about that.
Post by: (: premont :) on July 27, 2010, 12:44:09 AM
I understood your previous reply in the way that no "new recordings", i.e., released for first time on Brilliant Classics, were included in the new big box. But, obviously, during the last years Brilliant has replaced for own releases a considerable amount of material previously licensed from another labels. I would add to your list the following discs:
- Brandenburg Concertos: Originally, Consort of London, Robert Haydon Clark (excellent). Now: Musica Amphion/ Pieter-Jan Belder.
- Orchestral Suites: Originally, Consort of London, Robert Haydon Clark. Now: La Stravaganza Köln/ Andrew Manze (licensed from Denon).
- Concerti for 2, 3 & 4 harpsichords: Originally: Schornsheim, Heiller et. al. Now: Pieter-Jan Belder, Menno van Delft, Siebe Henstra et al/ Musica Amphion.
- Cello Suites: Originally, Robert Cohen (cello). Now: Jaap ter Linden.
IMO, the only real improvement is represented for the Cello Suites by ter Linden. The Orchestral Suites licensed from Denon are also excellent, but Robert Haydon Clark and his group were very good (although on modern instruments).
All the changes you mention were included in the second version of the Bach box, so I thought they were well known and not relevant to the discussion of the third version of the box.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 27, 2010, 03:36:20 AM
All the changes you mention were included in the second version of the Bach box, so I thought they were well known and not relevant to the discussion of the third version of the box.
I don't exactly know the dates of the changes experimented for that box; I have the original edition and I have simply added the new discs. But, if you're right, it would mean that, f.i., the new Brandenburgs and the concerti for several harpsichords (Belder/ Musica Amphion) were released for the first time in the "second" big box and, just then, re-released individually in 2007. I believe it's possible because both of them were recorded at the same time in 2006 (may/june). Obviously, the case of the "new" flute sonatas and WTC would be rather different because they were individually released some time ago and now would be simply added to the box, which was the point of my original response to this issue. :)
P.S.: the Cello Suites were also recorded in June 2006.
Post by: (: premont :) on July 27, 2010, 03:57:00 AM
I don't exactly know the dates of the changes experimented for that box; I have the original edition and I have simply added the new discs. But, if you're right, it would mean that, f.i., the new Brandenburgs and the concerti for several harpsichords (Belder/ Musica Amphion) were released for the first time in the "second" big box and, just then, re-released individually in 2007. I believe it's possible because both of them were recorded at the same time in 2006 (may/june).I think these are the facts. At least I had never heard of these recordings of Belder(nor ter Linden´s second take of the Cello suites) until I acquired the second Bach box release.
Obviously, the case of the "new" flute sonatas and WTC would be rather different because they were individually released some time ago and now would be simply added to the box, which was the point of my original response to this issue. :)Point taken. :)
P.S.: the Cello Suites were also recorded in June 2006.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 27, 2010, 04:06:02 AM
Allright than, you know I want to keep peace amongst us all, but since you make me comfortable, I tell you this. I think the swift tempi applied by Jed Wentz very sensible. I do not take the tempo markings by Bach as fixed at all. There is place and space for such a interpretation, like there is for David Zinman's very swift tempi. Everyone fell over him because of it, but Beethoven's own markings gave him the tools to apply it. Its all about hearing! If you can hear the inner tempi feel them, as Herbert von Karajan said, you know what the right tempi are, regardless of what is written down. When I listen to a piece I can hear if the tempi are wrong or right, it has to do with how the notes were written down. If the tempi are not right in my ears the work is ruined for me. There is not much music around that can hold its own if you lower or speed the tempi too much. I am very inadequate in explaining this but there you go, its the best I can. I trashed so many recordings in the early days, that had to do with tempi, starting with Claudio Abbado's interpretation of the Brahms Symphonies on DGG, I broke the records in several pieces, and that was the start of a long career. I do it less now though. :)
It's clear for me, Harry. You're a boy a lot wilder than I am. ;)
Post by: Harry on July 27, 2010, 04:32:58 AM
It's clear for me, Harry. You're a boy a lot wilder than I am. ;)
As I said I mended my ways and give the CD'S away. And regarding the tempi, well thats entirely a personal thing. Funny thing I had a phone call from a friend the other day, he lives in Australia now, and we got to talk about the days in which we listen to classical music together, and he remembered one thing that fits to the way I listen in the olden days. It was on a Sunday and he went down to the living room to get some malt, on his way back, he heard somebody swearing loud in a very angry tone, at first he thought someone came in and fought with me so he hurried up, but close at the door he heard me alone, cursing Kurt Masur, while listening to his absurd tempi notions concerning the Bruch Symphonies. He said he never heard me so angry and he waited until I broke the record, waited still a little after I put music from Corelli on and than came in. When he saw the broken pieces he did not mention them further but I knew he wanted to ask about it, but seeing that I calmed down he refrained from it. But I am a good boy now, although when I said that he laughed quite heartily and said he did not believe one word of it. ;D
Post by: Opus106 on July 27, 2010, 04:48:50 AM
I trashed so many recordings in the early days, that had to do with tempi, starting with Claudio Abbado's interpretation of the Brahms Symphonies on DGG
He said he never heard me so angry and he waited until I broke the record, waited still a little after I put music from Corelli
Ah, those must be the WoO from the catalogue (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,13.msg199020.html#msg199020). Are they Harry? ;D ;)
Post by: Harry on July 27, 2010, 06:06:33 AM
Ah, those must be the WoO from the catalogue (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,13.msg199020.html#msg199020). Are they Harry? ;D ;)
Yes it must be no doubt ;D
Post by: ammar on July 30, 2010, 09:51:15 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qP6mP-SgL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sviatoslav-Richter-Icon/dp/B001B1R1HC/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sviatoslav-Richter-Icon/dp/B001B1R1HC/)
Post by: DavidRoss on July 30, 2010, 10:23:48 AM
The resemblance is even more uncanny when you find out that they're both carrying a pink plastic lobster out of shot :D;D That's enough to piss off anyone!
(and no, that isn't a euphemism, before anyone asks - http://ahmedfernando.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/richters-pink-plastic-lobster/ )
And I'm glad it's not a euphemism...for a moment I thought the mods would shunt this post over to Teresa's porn thread. ;)
Post by: Scarpia on July 30, 2010, 11:32:47 AM
It's been fairly cheap for a while, but the EMI 14CD Richter 'Icon' set is now down to £9.99 on Amazon.co.uk (free super saver delivery within the UK, direct from Amazon) :
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qP6mP-SgL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sviatoslav-Richter-Icon/dp/B001B1R1HC/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sviatoslav-Richter-Icon/dp/B001B1R1HC/)
Actually that's 9.99 pounds including VAT, 8.50 for US buyers, but you have to put up 3 pounds for shipping.
Post by: Coopmv on July 30, 2010, 06:33:47 PM
It's been fairly cheap for a while, but the EMI 14CD Richter 'Icon' set is now down to £9.99 on Amazon.co.uk (free super saver delivery within the UK, direct from Amazon) :
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qP6mP-SgL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sviatoslav-Richter-Icon/dp/B001B1R1HC/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sviatoslav-Richter-Icon/dp/B001B1R1HC/)
This was the second box set by Richter I bought. The first one was the following Russian archive set ...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ATH78307L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Post by: Scarpia on August 11, 2010, 11:38:57 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VRHWLU/ref=s9_simh_gw_p340_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=09V3W0TYCXQQ0D5Q6DSH&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
Post by: Lethevich on August 20, 2010, 04:17:04 AM
Post by: Chaszz on August 23, 2010, 07:53:02 AM
http://www.europadisc.co.uk/offer/686/Brilliant_Clearance_Sale.htm
A non-working link, at least via my ISP. Also the home site seems to not be there.
Post by: The new erato on August 23, 2010, 07:57:52 AM
Post by: Chaszz on August 23, 2010, 08:14:02 AM
Part II of the latter opera was broadcast by radio station WQXR in New York City last weekend as part of series on neglected operas. It knocked the socks off me. I never heard of this composer before. Anyone who likes late Romanticism where it merges into early Expressionism may be quite interested in this man's music.
Post by: Lethevich on August 23, 2010, 10:49:22 AM
Post by: Papy Oli on August 23, 2010, 11:19:14 AM
Please excuse me if these have already been discussed here, as I don't have time to go thru the whole thread. Getting more and more into lesser known late Romantics, I wonder if there are cheap sources for the complete or partial symphonies of Hubert Parry and Franz Schmidt, and the opera Gezeichneten (The Stigmatized) by Franz Shrecker. Any help would be appreciated.
If you don't mind the download format :
http://www.emusic.com/album/Marcy-Chanteaux-SCHMIDT-Symphonies-complete-MP3-Download/11155674.html (http://www.emusic.com/album/Marcy-Chanteaux-SCHMIDT-Symphonies-complete-MP3-Download/11155674.html)
http://www.emusic.com/artist/Hubert-Parry-MP3-Download/11601584.html (http://www.emusic.com/artist/Hubert-Parry-MP3-Download/11601584.html)
http://www.emusic.com/album/William-Cochran-SCHREKER-Die-Gezeichneten-MP3-Download/10869881.html (http://www.emusic.com/album/William-Cochran-SCHREKER-Die-Gezeichneten-MP3-Download/10869881.html)
Probably some more in there....
Post by: listener on August 23, 2010, 11:27:09 AM
This DVD is less expensive compared to the OOP Opera Rara CD, and is listed at amazon, hbdirect and presto. The tenor is not a dwarf hunchback transvestite, though.
Post by: The new erato on August 23, 2010, 01:14:49 PM
re the SchreckerI was going to recommend this as well - superb production!
This DVD is less expensive compared to the OOP Opera Rara CD, and is listed at amazon, hbdirect and presto. The tenor is not a dwarf hunchback transvestite, though.
Post by: Wanderer on August 23, 2010, 10:29:08 PM
I was going to recommend this as well - superb production!
I enthusiastically third this recommendation. 8)
Post by: Chaszz on August 25, 2010, 05:17:39 AM
If you don't mind the download format :
http://www.emusic.com/album/Marcy-Chanteaux-SCHMIDT-Symphonies-complete-MP3-Download/11155674.html (http://www.emusic.com/album/Marcy-Chanteaux-SCHMIDT-Symphonies-complete-MP3-Download/11155674.html)
http://www.emusic.com/artist/Hubert-Parry-MP3-Download/11601584.html (http://www.emusic.com/artist/Hubert-Parry-MP3-Download/11601584.html)
http://www.emusic.com/album/William-Cochran-SCHREKER-Die-Gezeichneten-MP3-Download/10869881.html (http://www.emusic.com/album/William-Cochran-SCHREKER-Die-Gezeichneten-MP3-Download/10869881.html)
Probably some more in there....
Thank you all for your recommendations.
How does the emusic cost of "49c per song" translate into an opera or symphony?
Post by: The new erato on August 25, 2010, 06:02:03 AM
Thank you all for your recommendations.I guess that depends upon whether it's a number opera or Wagner.
How does the emusic cost of "49c per song" translate into an opera or symphony?
Post by: Elgarian on September 05, 2010, 11:10:21 PM
Not sure how new this news is, but this Bohm/Bayreuth/Nilsson/Windgassen Tristan - one of the frontrunners in the Tristan Recordings Stakes - is currently available for an astonishing £12.99 at Amazon.uk, here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Tristan-Isolde-Richard/dp/B000001GXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1283760441&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Tristan-Isolde-Richard/dp/B000001GXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1283760441&sr=1-1)
Everywhere else, it costs about double that.
Post by: Scarpia on September 06, 2010, 06:06:12 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41w1xayThGL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
The odd thing is that this set is listed twice on Amazon.com and the prices on the two listings vary widely.
Post by: nigeld on September 06, 2010, 06:58:56 AM
£100 inc shipping from US to UK.
£1.60 per disc probably qualifies it for super-duper cheap
Post by: Harry on September 06, 2010, 07:21:16 AM
OK, finally taken the plunge on this box set that I've been considering for a little while.
£100 inc shipping from US to UK.
£1.60 per disc probably qualifies it for super-duper cheap
Could you give a link my friend.
Post by: Orpheus on September 06, 2010, 07:54:55 AM
Could you give a link my friend.
I found this...
(http://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B003UCPEJ2/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1283792057&sr=8-1&condition=new)
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 06, 2010, 08:50:59 AM
Could you give a link my friend.I was looking myself: http://www.amazon.com/Living-Stereo-60-Collection-Box/dp/B003UCPEJ2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1283795289&sr=1-1-fkmr0 (http://www.amazon.com/Living-Stereo-60-Collection-Box/dp/B003UCPEJ2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1283795289&sr=1-1-fkmr0)
Post by: Mirror Image on September 06, 2010, 03:30:05 PM
I was looking myself: http://www.amazon.com/Living-Stereo-60-Collection-Box/dp/B003UCPEJ2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1283795289&sr=1-1-fkmr0 (http://www.amazon.com/Living-Stereo-60-Collection-Box/dp/B003UCPEJ2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1283795289&sr=1-1-fkmr0)
I knew I should have waited before I bought most of them. :P
Post by: nigeld on September 07, 2010, 02:06:49 AM
Could you give a link my friend.
looks like others have replied before me Harry. I bought it through www.amazon.com, their US site. postage was only £4 or so which I thought was remarkably cheap given the size of the package.
Post by: Chaszz on September 07, 2010, 07:33:08 AM
If you don't mind the download format :
http://www.emusic.com/album/Marcy-Chanteaux-SCHMIDT-Symphonies-complete-MP3-Download/11155674.html (http://www.emusic.com/album/Marcy-Chanteaux-SCHMIDT-Symphonies-complete-MP3-Download/11155674.html)
http://www.emusic.com/artist/Hubert-Parry-MP3-Download/11601584.html (http://www.emusic.com/artist/Hubert-Parry-MP3-Download/11601584.html)
http://www.emusic.com/album/William-Cochran-SCHREKER-Die-Gezeichneten-MP3-Download/10869881.html (http://www.emusic.com/album/William-Cochran-SCHREKER-Die-Gezeichneten-MP3-Download/10869881.html)
Probably some more in there....
I followed up this suggestion. Here is what happened, which experience I also posted today on another thread devoted specifically to emusic: The download process required some tweaking to work properly, the tech services dept. did not get around to my case for a week-and-a-half after I inquired, and in the meantime I was charged 33 song credits for an opera (Die Gezeichneten) I never was able to download. Today I called up (very difficult to find the phone number) to ask them to put the 33 credits back in my trial offer but they refused. They also refused to refund my $11.99 first month's charge, said they have a 'no refund ever' (actual quote) policy, but relented when I reacted rather strongly. I also read after searching the web for emusic complaints that they charge you $99 for a year at the 2nd month's renewal, even though they lead you to believe it is charged monthly.
Perhaps GMG members who joined emusic some time ago may not be experiencing such difficulties. With all due respect for their opinions and experiences, and no criticism intended or implied, I wish to suggest not recommending this company to GMG members who have not experienced it, without looking further into its current operations re new customers.
Post by: DarkAngel on September 07, 2010, 08:19:43 AM
Look for this soon...........
Great release for this budget boxset series!
Post by: Papy Oli on September 07, 2010, 10:41:29 AM
I followed up this suggestion. Here is what happened, which experience I also posted today on another thread devoted specifically to emusic: The download process required some tweaking to work properly, the tech services dept. did not get around to my case for a week-and-a-half after I inquired, and in the meantime I was charged 33 song credits for an opera (Die Gezeichneten) I never was able to download. Today I called up (very difficult to find the phone number) to ask them to put the 33 credits back in my trial offer but they refused. They also refused to refund my $11.99 first month's charge, said they have a 'no refund ever' (actual quote) policy, but relented when I reacted rather strongly. I also read after searching the web for emusic complaints that they charge you $99 for a year at the 2nd month's renewal, even though they lead you to believe it is charged monthly.
Perhaps GMG members who joined emusic some time ago may not be experiencing such difficulties. With all due respect for their opinions and experiences, and no criticism intended or implied, I wish to suggest not recommending this company to GMG members who have not experienced it, without looking further into its current operations re new customers.
Sorry to read about your bad experience with e-music on your side of the pond, Chaszz. I do not know about the tariff format or charges system in their US version, but I have personally never experienced such issues here in the UK since I joined (I have often put my monthly subscription on hold as and when wanted and never been charged incorrectly meanwhile). Such customer service and handling is a poor show indeed for what is, I found, a great source to discover lots of works at a minimal cost.
Post by: The new erato on September 08, 2010, 01:35:46 AM
(http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/imgs/s300x300/4779142.jpg)
Too much I already have, and too much I don't want, to warrant purchase, just like in the first box. Marvellous sets for beginners, though!
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 08, 2010, 02:30:57 AM
http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/cat/single?PRODUCT_NR=4779142 (http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/cat/single?PRODUCT_NR=4779142)Shame some of the discs are so short though. No reason they couldn't put some additional works on here. They have several discs of about 45 minutes and one that is 38 minutes! I realize it is a set, but still...
(http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/imgs/s300x300/4779142.jpg)
Too much I already have, and too much I don't want, to warrant purchase, just like in the first box. Marvellous sets for beginners, though!
Post by: The new erato on September 08, 2010, 02:36:39 AM
Shame some of the discs are so short though. No reason they couldn't put some additional works on here. They have several discs of about 45 minutes and one that is 38 minutes! I realize it is a set, but still...They have kept the original format from when these releases were on LP. I think that is a good idea and the whole point of a memorial issue like this, and as long as the price is little more than 1£ pr disc I see absolutely no problem with this, if this is the kind of thing you want musically speaking.
To have it on 30 discs at the same price would still be a wonderful bargain if you want the content, but the whole idea with original sleeves etc would be severely compromised. Quality does not always translate to numbers....so I do disagree strongly with your view. That I'm not a buyer is not related to this at all.
Post by: George on September 08, 2010, 03:42:18 AM
Shame some of the discs are so short though. No reason they couldn't put some additional works on here. They have several discs of about 45 minutes and one that is 38 minutes! I realize it is a set, but still...
Yes, I notice the box isn't green. 8)
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on September 08, 2010, 07:31:42 AM
Shame some of the discs are so short though. No reason they couldn't put some additional works on here. They have several discs of about 45 minutes and one that is 38 minutes! I realize it is a set, but still...
Yes, I think it's a ghastly idea to stick it to the consumer like this. No reason at all - commemorative issue or not - not to fill up the discs to the fullest. Most folks buying this set won't have even SEEN the original LPs anyway so the nostalgia angle makes no sense.
To me packing the CDs to the fullest would be truly commemorative!
Post by: Scarpia on September 08, 2010, 07:47:05 AM
Yes, I think it's a ghastly idea to stick it to the consumer like this. No reason at all - commemorative issue or not - not to fill up the discs to the fullest. Most folks buying this set won't have even SEEN the original LPs anyway so the nostalgia angle makes no sense.
To me packing the CDs to the fullest would be truly commemorative!
How is it "sticking it to the consumer" when the price is so low? The cost of the disc itself is very small compared to the other costs associated with production, so if they had rearranged the material to fit on fewer discs the amount they would have had to charge to make the same profit would be only slightly less.
I don't plan on getting this series since I already have a lot of the material. I did get two installments from the "Argerich Collection." There they have retained the original LP programs (and cover art) on the individual CDs and I find it an enhancement worth paying a few extra dollars for. Having the music arranged chronologically by LP release gives more perspective on the development of the performer. I probably wouldn't have gotten the releases if not for the distinctive packaging and organization.
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on September 08, 2010, 08:06:58 AM
How is it "sticking it to the consumer" when the price is so low? The cost of the disc itself is very small compared to the other costs associated with production, so if they had rearranged the material to fit on fewer discs the amount they would have had to charge to make the same profit would be only slightly less.
?
If the cost of the discs isn't the issue then FILLING THEM UP should be priority number one!!
Post by: The new erato on September 08, 2010, 08:31:50 AM
?No. This is a memorial issue celebrating DG 111 years, filling up the discs and charging the same price for 35 discs would simply mean that instead of copies of the glorious original covers, you would get some cheapo cardboard holders instead. Then you would be really screwed. Price and value is two distinctly different issues, as Oscar Wilde pointed out. Music is about sentiments and value, not price.
If the cost of the discs isn't the issue then FILLING THEM UP should be priority number one!!
Post by: Scarpia on September 08, 2010, 08:38:33 AM
No. This is a memorial issue celebrating DG 111 years, filling up the discs and charging the same price for 35 discs would simply mean that instead of copies of the glorious original covers, you would get some cheapo cardboard holders instead. Then you would be really screwed. Price and value is two distinctly different issues, as Oscar Wilde pointed out. Music is about sentiments and value, not price.
Exactly, and the same applies to the Argerich Collection, in which the individual discs are packaged in sleeves that show the original LP cover art. It may cost a bit more to package them this way, but in the case of the Argerich edition, for example, I think it is worth it.
Post by: George on September 08, 2010, 10:26:53 AM
Exactly, and the same applies to the Argerich Collection, in which the individual discs are packaged in sleeves that show the original LP cover art. It may cost a bit more to package them this way, but in the case of the Argerich edition, for example, I think it is worth it.
I thought it was a nice touch on the Argerich set, although the rear art is very hard to read on some, impossible in others.
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on September 08, 2010, 08:28:47 PM
No. This is a memorial issue celebrating DG 111 years, filling up the discs and charging the same price for 35 discs would simply mean that instead of copies of the glorious original covers, you would get some cheapo cardboard holders instead. Then you would be really screwed. Price and value is two distinctly different issues, as Oscar Wilde pointed out. Music is about sentiments and value, not price.
Well, what is this sentiment you are referring to? There isn't even a "DG" anymore!! It's all Universal. So you won't see me falling for THAT old trick! ;D
Post by: The new erato on September 08, 2010, 08:30:21 PM
There isn't even a "DG" anymore!! It's all Universal.That's what makes it so sentimental.
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on September 08, 2010, 08:37:44 PM
That's what makes it so sentimental.
I suppose. But with the Giant Conglomerate® having their marketing hand in it I'm still leery. :)
Post by: Scarpia on September 08, 2010, 08:43:36 PM
I suppose. But with the Giant Conglomerate® having their marketing hand in it I'm still leery. :)
The giant conglomerate is making a wider variety of recordings available at a lower price that the original labels ever did, and with packaging that pays homage to the original releases. What exactly are you complaining about?
(I know, they don't make many new recordings. Why would they, with the size of back catalog they are sitting on?)
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on September 08, 2010, 08:56:25 PM
What exactly are you complaining about?
It's pretty simple. Universal could've jettisoned the silly "sentiment" thing and commemorated DG's
And anyway, 111??
Post by: The new erato on September 08, 2010, 09:02:21 PM
It's pretty simple. Universal could've jettisoned the silly "sentiment" thing and commemorated DG'sWell.....you just been giving several reasons why that wasn't the point at all. So why do you keep harping on it? Just accept the fact that this release isn't meant for you. DG has given us tons of stuff with modern relevance over the years, like their 20/21 series. But those instead, I'm sure some of them are up to your 78 minute ideal.pastpassing by giving us something with modern relevance. Not empty space on CDs.
And anyway, 111??
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on September 08, 2010, 09:10:39 PM
Well.....you just been giving several reasons why that wasn't the point at all. So why do you keep harping on it? Just accept the fact that this release isn't meant for you. DG has given us tons of stuff with modern relevance over the years, like their 20/21 series. But those instead, I'm sure some of them are up to your 78 minute ideal.
Who's harping? You and Scarpia gave YOUR two cents (and then some), I came along and gave mine, and here we are. What's the beef?
Post by: Scarpia on September 08, 2010, 09:36:52 PM
It's pretty simple. Universal could've jettisoned the silly "sentiment" thing and commemorated DG'spastpassing by giving us something with modern relevance. Not empty space on CDs.
And anyway, 111??
What possible difference would it have made if they had squeezed that music onto a smaller number of CD and charged essentially the same price?
You are like a person who goes into a fancy restaurant and orders fillet mignon, then upon being served, complains that there is empty space on the plate that could have been filled with more food. What will the waiter do? Come out with the same fillet mignon on a smaller plate. :P
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 08, 2010, 09:58:02 PM
What possible difference would it have made if they had squeezed that music onto a smaller number of CD and charged essentially the same price?Ah, but what if they had squeezed more music onto the same number of discs. You'd be getting a better bang for your buck (and more music to enjoy). You are right though - this release is not for us. I think we can all agree on that.
Post by: Orpheus on September 08, 2010, 11:11:14 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51i8Yb9qthL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Look here:
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It's my first Walcha experience... :)
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on September 09, 2010, 05:53:10 AM
You are like a person who goes into a fancy restaurant and orders fillet mignon, then upon being served, complains that there is empty space on the plate that could have been filled with more food. What will the waiter do? Come out with the same fillet mignon on a smaller plate. :P
Try telling that to a food critic!!!! :P :P
(But if you're still not clear about where I'm coming from simply read urkneal's last post. He gets the picture...)
Post by: The new erato on September 09, 2010, 06:47:17 AM
Post by: Scarpia on September 09, 2010, 07:18:53 AM
(But if you're still not clear about where I'm coming from simply read urkneal's last post. He gets the picture...)
Focusing on the discs being full doesn't make economic sense. The valuable commodity is the audio recording, not space on the disc. If they had squeezed the set down to 35 CDs instead of 55 that would save $10 of production cost. They could lower the price from $100 to $90. If they had filled that 55CDs with extra tracks, that would be 50% more music, the set would have cost $150 instead of $100. But that would ruin the concept.
I don't have much interest in the 111 set because I already have almost all of the interesting recordings already. But as I mentioned above, they used the same concept in the Argerich Collection and having the original cover art and couplings was an important added value and a contributing reason I got the set. If they had squeezed it down to fewer discs and dropped the original cover art concept I probably would not have gotten it, even if it was a few dollars cheaper.
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on September 09, 2010, 03:29:45 PM
Post by: DavidRoss on September 09, 2010, 03:39:27 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SxsRtQUgL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
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Post by: Scarpia on September 09, 2010, 05:19:10 PM
Not quite a super duper bargain, perhaps, but a pretty good value nonetheless. A few Amazon.com marketplace sellers are listing Bertini's Mahler symphony cycle for under $35 --- about half of Amazon's price.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SxsRtQUgL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphonies-1-10-Lied-Erde/dp/B000BQ7BX2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1284078910&sr=1-13
Got mine from MDT for 18 pounds, plus shipping. Quite a few of the EMI box sets can be had for astonishingly low prices if you are persistent.
Post by: The new erato on September 09, 2010, 08:49:55 PM
Got mine from MDT for 18 pounds, plus shipping. Quite a few of the EMI box sets can be had for astonishingly low prices if you are persistent.You don't even need to be particularly persistent. EMI is flogging everything they got that can bring cash into their vaults, in endless repackagings, in every channel they can think of. It's on my list BTW, along with the box of Muti's Cherubini.
Post by: Coopmv on September 10, 2010, 04:43:38 PM
You don't even need to be particularly persistent. EMI is flogging everything they got that can bring cash into their vaults, in endless repackagings, in every channel they can think of. It's on my list BTW, along with the box of Muti's Cherubini.
Has the current owner of EMI taken EMI into bankruptcy court?
Post by: The new erato on September 10, 2010, 04:47:50 PM
Post by: Coopmv on September 10, 2010, 05:03:26 PM
Not AFAIK. They still need cash though.....
I certainly hope EMI can stave off bankruptcy. The private equity firm that did the LBO on EMI knows little about running the music business ...
Post by: ammar on September 16, 2010, 01:32:32 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51mNZUDYnHL._SS400_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001DCQJUO/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001DCQJUO/)
at a shade under £17 delivered (for UK residents, using free shipping option) now falls into the super-bargain category. That's a pretty good price for the 4 CDs of Messiaen playing his own organ music, never mind the rest of the set :)
Post by: Scarpia on September 16, 2010, 01:40:38 PM
I think that this :
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51mNZUDYnHL._SS400_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001DCQJUO/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001DCQJUO/)
at a shade under £17 delivered (for UK residents, using free shipping option) now falls into the super-bargain category. That's a pretty good price for the 4 CDs of Messiaen playing his own organ music, never mind the rest of the set :)
Enough to make me with I could tolerate Messiaen. :P
Post by: stingo on September 18, 2010, 09:15:17 AM
English Viol Music (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001BSH0YO)
Not sure if it's a super duper cheap deal, but it was enough of a deal to make me pull the trigger. Very good music/performance for what, to me is an attractive price.
Post by: Orpheus on September 24, 2010, 07:39:16 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51b6ihrQXoL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/Dvorak-quatuors-%C3%A0-cordes-Antonin/dp/B00002DEH4/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i (http://www.amazon.fr/Dvorak-quatuors-%C3%A0-cordes-Antonin/dp/B00002DEH4/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i)
Just ordered! ;D
Post by: Conor71 on September 24, 2010, 10:01:57 AM
A great bargain!!!Woah! - Unfortunately only for domestic shipping :'(.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51b6ihrQXoL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/Dvorak-quatuors-%C3%A0-cordes-Antonin/dp/B00002DEH4/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i (http://www.amazon.fr/Dvorak-quatuors-%C3%A0-cordes-Antonin/dp/B00002DEH4/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i)
Just ordered! ;D
Awesome bargain though :).
Post by: Orpheus on September 24, 2010, 11:07:13 AM
Woah! - Unfortunately only for domestic shipping :'(.
Awesome bargain though :).
It's for international shipping too!!! ;)
Post by: Conor71 on September 24, 2010, 01:46:40 PM
It's for international shipping too!!! ;)I gave it a try and my order was accepted! - cost $35 AUS. That set retails for +$100 at my local Classical B&M.
I have had my eye on that set for a while - thanks for the heads-up Orpheus! :D.
Post by: ammar on September 24, 2010, 02:43:20 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51z0AxbyQ-L._SS500_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/Schubert-Lieder-Fischer-Dieskau-Moore/dp/B000AYQCIK/ (http://www.amazon.fr/Schubert-Lieder-Fischer-Dieskau-Moore/dp/B000AYQCIK/)
Fingers crossed that both orders (along with the Walcha Bach from the top of the page) are honoured ::)
Post by: ammar on September 24, 2010, 02:48:37 PM
Sorry guys... :'(
Post by: Orpheus on September 28, 2010, 12:15:36 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B003MRN6PY/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B003MRN6PY/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new)
This box for nothing!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bfpMBbCML._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Brian on September 28, 2010, 12:25:59 AM
That's the same seller who was selling a Sibelius box set for £999. Must be moody.
(I didn't buy it.)
Post by: Orpheus on September 28, 2010, 01:48:17 AM
Look Here soon!!!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B003MRN6PY/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B003MRN6PY/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new)
This box for nothing!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bfpMBbCML._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Orpheus ;)
Too late! ???
Post by: Orpheus on October 01, 2010, 06:39:27 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EwrUgM37L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
look here!
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Orpheus ;)
Post by: Brian on October 01, 2010, 06:51:28 AM
Thank you, Orpheus!!!
Post by: scarlattiglenross on October 04, 2010, 10:59:00 PM
EUR 15,95 at http://www.amazon.de/Original-Jacket-Collection-Pablo-Casals/dp/B003KHJJNE/ (http://www.amazon.de/Original-Jacket-Collection-Pablo-Casals/dp/B003KHJJNE/)
Post by: Orpheus on October 05, 2010, 05:40:24 AM
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1228/61qyhvkgllsl500aa300.jpg)
EUR 15,95 at http://www.amazon.de/Original-Jacket-Collection-Pablo-Casals/dp/B003KHJJNE/ (http://www.amazon.de/Original-Jacket-Collection-Pablo-Casals/dp/B003KHJJNE/)
I would prefer a Jacket collection with ALL Casals' Sony recording, not a selection... ::)
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 05, 2010, 05:55:12 AM
I would prefer a Jacket collection with ALL Casals' Sony recording, not a selection... ::)
Maybe so, but you ain't gonna get one for 16 Euros! Super-Duper Cheap Bargains, remember? :)
8)
Post by: karlhenning on October 05, 2010, 06:06:33 AM
Post by: Wanderer on October 05, 2010, 10:29:19 AM
40 euros at jpc.de (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Sergej-Rachmaninoff-S%E4mtliche-Klavierwerke/hnum/6664776)
Post by: ammar on October 09, 2010, 02:06:32 PM
(http://www.abeillemusique.com/images/references/bril93554.jpg)
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Post by: Orpheus on October 15, 2010, 01:17:27 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41766CJRNVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Look here! ;)
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Orpheus :D
Post by: rubio on October 16, 2010, 03:33:56 AM
If you are interested in this box
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Look here! ;)
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Orpheus :D
So ordered :o. Thanks!
Post by: mc ukrneal on October 25, 2010, 01:13:24 PM
Post by: Benji on October 26, 2010, 06:22:49 AM
Amazon UK £23.99 / $38 (8 Discs = £3 per disc) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bartok-Pierre-Boulez/dp/B002DZX958/ref=sr_1_11?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1288101952&sr=1-11)
Because I like to do your homework for you - cheapest new Amazon.com price = $48 ;D
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51on22ZxfmL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Amazon UK £14.99 / $23.70 (6 discs = £2.33 per disc) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Boulez-conducts-Stravinsky-Pierre/dp/B002XDFOGM/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1288102900&sr=1-1)
Cheapest new Amazon.com price = $34
Post by: Harry on October 26, 2010, 07:41:22 AM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0034571140414.jpg)
40 euros at jpc.de (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Sergej-Rachmaninoff-S%E4mtliche-Klavierwerke/hnum/6664776)
Thanks Tasos, in my ordering basket. :)
Post by: Brahmsian on October 26, 2010, 07:55:29 AM
For those that missed it first time round, Abeille Musique have the Brilliant Classics Brahms Edition reduced back down to 25 euros + shipping :
(http://www.abeillemusique.com/images/references/bril93554.jpg)
http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93554/5028421935546/Brilliant-Classics/Johannes-Brahms/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-29328.html (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93554/5028421935546/Brilliant-Classics/Johannes-Brahms/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-29328.html)
It is an incredible value. I've just now finally gone through all the discs at least once, and several spins on multiple discs, especially on the chamber music. :) I still can't thank Brian enough for the heads up on this (about a year ago).
Post by: Wanderer on October 31, 2010, 01:21:52 AM
Thanks Tasos, in my ordering basket. :)
I'm sure you'll like it, Harry. 8)
Excellent performances; and the box usually costs double that amount.
Post by: Papy Oli on October 31, 2010, 10:15:41 AM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w183/front/0/0028948040032.jpg)
€ 26.99 at JPC
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Klaviersonaten-Nr-1-32/hnum/1240643 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Klaviersonaten-Nr-1-32/hnum/1240643)
Post by: Scarpia on October 31, 2010, 10:23:37 AM
I guess that qualifies as a bargain compared to the cost of the previous versions :
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w183/front/0/0028948040032.jpg)
€ 26.99 at JPC
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Klaviersonaten-Nr-1-32/hnum/1240643 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-Klaviersonaten-Nr-1-32/hnum/1240643)
And for no extra charge they add phony surround sound encoding, which you need to route through a dolby surround sound decoder.
Post by: Papy Oli on October 31, 2010, 10:39:14 AM
And for no extra charge they add phony surround sound encoding, which you need to route through a dolby surround sound decoder.
I remember a similar comment was made about the sound when I posted about the sinopoli/mahler boxset in the same series a while back. I bought that set and personnally, I am happy with its sound... my ears and my setup obviously. YMMV :)
Post by: The new erato on October 31, 2010, 10:49:08 AM
I remember a similar comment was made about the sound when I posted about the sinopoli/mahler boxset in the same series a while back. I bought that set and personnally, I am happy with its sound... my ears and my setup obviously. YMMV :)I have the Schiff Bach set and have no serious problems with the sound of that. But why Universal would do a damn silly thing like this, buggers the imagination.
Post by: Scarpia on October 31, 2010, 11:01:31 AM
Post by: Coopmv on October 31, 2010, 12:30:42 PM
Post by: The new erato on October 31, 2010, 01:02:07 PM
Post by: Coopmv on October 31, 2010, 01:04:31 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415Lp8oUvqL._SS400_.jpg)
I am through the first 2 CD's from this set ...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H9ikmzBSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Post by: Brian on October 31, 2010, 01:09:26 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415Lp8oUvqL._SS400_.jpg)
Erm... what's the link?
Post by: Coopmv on October 31, 2010, 01:11:13 PM
Erm... what's the link?
Brian, this set may be the same as the set I have ... No?
Post by: Brian on October 31, 2010, 01:15:34 PM
Brian, this set may be the same as the set I have ... No?
Yes, - at least I'm pretty sure they are the same. Same label, same orchestra...
Did yours come as a cardboard box or plastic cases with a "slipcover"?
Post by: The new erato on October 31, 2010, 01:18:47 PM
Erm... what's the link?the bargain price. 24 Euros.
Post by: Brian on October 31, 2010, 01:23:01 PM
the bargain price. 24 Euros.
Actually, I meant where did you find it. But never mind: Amazon France has it for 19.53 euros!
Post by: Brian on October 31, 2010, 01:37:23 PM
Post by: Papy Oli on October 31, 2010, 01:38:10 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Fy0T-D3uL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
€ 21.05 on Amazon FR - release 03/11
Post by: mc ukrneal on October 31, 2010, 01:43:59 PM
Also this one :Wow! About bloody time! For those in the US, that is November 2010. :)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Fy0T-D3uL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
€ 21.05 on Amazon FR - release 03/11
Post by: Coopmv on October 31, 2010, 02:00:33 PM
Yes, - at least I'm pretty sure they are the same. Same label, same orchestra...
Did yours come as a cardboard box or plastic cases with a "slipcover"?
Plastic cases with the slipcover that says 9 CD's. But in reality, there are only 8 CD's since Symphonies Nos. 8 & 9 are combined. George and I got a great price from an Amazon US MP vendor ...
Post by: Coopmv on October 31, 2010, 02:35:08 PM
Plastic cases with the slipcover that says 9 CD's. But in reality, there are only 8 CD's since Symphonies Nos. 8 & 9 are combined. George and I got a great price from an Amazon US MP vendor ...
Brian,
Need to make a correction. There are indeed 9 CD's in 8 jewel cases. Symphonies 8-9 are 2 CD's in one jewel case ...
Post by: Scarpia on November 01, 2010, 01:46:28 PM
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//92337.htm
Post by: Scarpia on November 03, 2010, 11:14:05 PM
Post by: Scarpia on November 04, 2010, 08:01:01 AM
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/2564699672.jpg)
Post by: karlhenning on November 04, 2010, 08:04:05 AM
Also this one :
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Fy0T-D3uL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
€ 21.05 on Amazon FR - release 03/11
That cat was great in Saturday Night Fever.
Post by: karlhenning on November 04, 2010, 08:05:48 AM
This may count as super-bargain. Complete Piano music of Ravel and Debussy, Erato recordings of Monique Haas, 6CDs for a bit over 12 pounds, plus VAT or shipping.
Nice. IIRC, she plays on the Opus 49 Konzertmusik conducted by the composer himself.
Post by: Maciek on November 04, 2010, 08:12:44 AM
This may count as super-bargain. Complete Piano music of Ravel and Debussy, Erato recordings of Monique Haas, 6CDs for a bit over 12 pounds, plus VAT or shipping.
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/2564699672.jpg)
Where?
Oh, OK, I notice the address you took the pic from. MDT, then?
Post by: Brian on November 04, 2010, 08:13:44 AM
Nice. IIRC, she plays on the Opus 49 Konzertmusik conducted by the composer himself.
But the box contains no orchestral works...
Post by: karlhenning on November 04, 2010, 08:19:28 AM
But the box contains no orchestral works...
Ah, I was too elliptical. There is a box of Hindemith conducting the Berliner Philharmoniker in his own works, including the Opus 49 Konzertmusik for piano, brass & harps. I believe Haas plays the concertante piano on that recording.
Post by: Scarpia on November 04, 2010, 08:31:41 AM
Where?
Oh, OK, I notice the address you took the pic from. MDT, then?
Correct!
Ah, I was too elliptical. There is a box of Hindemith conducting the Berliner Philharmoniker in his own works, including the Opus 49 Konzertmusik for piano, brass & harps. I believe Haas plays the concertante piano on that recording.
Also correct. Before recording for Erato she was a DG artist.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51vvgBtKcfL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Not to be confused with Werner Haas, who also recorded a complete Ravel + Debussy solo piano cycle for Philips.
Post by: Maciek on November 04, 2010, 08:37:55 AM
Ah, I was too elliptical. There is a box of Hindemith conducting the Berliner Philharmoniker in his own works, including the Opus 49 Konzertmusik for piano, brass & harps. I believe Haas plays the concertante piano on that recording.
She has recorded the Ravel PCs though, for DG, and at least the G Major is a magnificent recording (I don't own the other one).
Post by: The new erato on November 06, 2010, 02:10:02 AM
11 euros on amazon.fr.
Lots of amazing bargains in this series; Bruckner/Wand, Beethoven/Budapest, Brahms/Rubinstein, van Cliburn concertoes, Mahler/Levine......
Post by: Orpheus on November 15, 2010, 02:54:44 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519lmbcUDxL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Look here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/chefs-doeuvre-Vivaldi-Various-Artists/dp/B000NVL49C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289818420&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/chefs-doeuvre-Vivaldi-Various-Artists/dp/B000NVL49C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289818420&sr=1-1)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Grazioso on November 16, 2010, 05:41:57 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4164bTS6R7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
11 euros on amazon.fr.
Lots of amazing bargains in this series; Bruckner/Wand, Beethoven/Budapest, Brahms/Rubinstein, van Cliburn concertoes, Mahler/Levine......
Any link to a page listing the complete series? Thanks.
Post by: George on November 16, 2010, 05:55:19 AM
Any link to a page listing the complete series? Thanks.
Seconded.
I can't even find the Reiner:
http://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_fr_FR=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=RCA+Reiner+Strauss+Quixote
Post by: Brian on November 16, 2010, 06:01:04 AM
Seconded.
I can't even find the Reiner:
http://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_fr_FR=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=RCA+Reiner+Strauss+Quixote
Too many search terms. Just type in Reiner Strauss and it comes right up. Amazon is terrible at tagging things so I always search for the minimum terminology...
Post by: George on November 16, 2010, 09:54:38 AM
Any link to a page listing the complete series? Thanks.
This yields quite a few: http://www.amazon.fr/Richard-Strauss-Oeuvres-orchestrales-Coffret/sim/B0042GNDT8/2/ref=pd_sxp_filt_m?ie=UTF8&pf=music
Post by: Grazioso on November 17, 2010, 05:11:21 AM
Thanks, Brian! :)
This yields quite a few: http://www.amazon.fr/Richard-Strauss-Oeuvres-orchestrales-Coffret/sim/B0042GNDT8/2/ref=pd_sxp_filt_m?ie=UTF8&pf=music
Thank you, Sir! FWIW, there's also a Bylsma/Tafelmusik Boccherini set in the series.
Post by: Orpheus on November 22, 2010, 02:01:41 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GInRCejjL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
...look here!
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B003DQIQ7C/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1290462488&sr=1-5&condition=new (http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B003DQIQ7C/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1290462488&sr=1-5&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Brian on November 22, 2010, 02:51:56 PM
Post by: Orpheus on November 23, 2010, 12:39:28 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51IKbGFOQEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
look here!
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B00151HZ3S/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1290500287&sr=1-29&condition=new (http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B00151HZ3S/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1290500287&sr=1-29&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: mc ukrneal on November 23, 2010, 02:19:26 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 23, 2010, 02:41:48 AM
Good mornig Wagnerians...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51IKbGFOQEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Orpheus ;)
Looks like it's finally time to acquire my 12th Ring ;D
Sarge
Post by: Orpheus on November 23, 2010, 03:06:21 AM
Looks like it's finally time to acquire my 12th Ring ;D
Sarge
Sorry, but there is no more super offer... it was around 8 euros... :(
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 23, 2010, 04:41:47 AM
Sorry, but there is no more super offer... it was around 8 euros... :(
I received a confirmation email from Amazon listing the price as €8.59 We'll see if the marketplace seller (Spartaner) honors the price or not. His offer is no longer listed. Maybe I grabbed the last one? Hope springs eternal :D
Sarge
Post by: karlhenning on November 23, 2010, 04:45:07 AM
Looks like it's finally time to acquire my 12th Ring ;D
Sarge, many thanks for the smile!
Post by: canninator on November 23, 2010, 04:55:15 AM
WHOA. That will be a beast to pack back to the States since my suitcases were full coming over. But I've been eyeing the expensive individual releases in that series for a long time and just can't miss this. Thanks, Orpheus 8) 8)
Yes, at that price for the set I purchased without thinking twice.
Post by: Coopmv on November 23, 2010, 08:29:57 PM
WHOA. That will be a beast to pack back to the States since my suitcases were full coming over. But I've been eyeing the expensive individual releases in that series for a long time and just can't miss this. Thanks, Orpheus 8) 8)
Brian, No problems. You need to automate your one-click checkout on Amazon ... ;)
Post by: The new erato on November 23, 2010, 11:27:22 PM
Yes, at that price for the set I purchased without thinking twice.Is thinking twice an option? I didn't know that..........
Post by: Brian on November 24, 2010, 01:36:04 AM
Is thinking twice an option? I didn't know that..........
I thought twice. :( I've decided to buy the box later, as a gift to myself for completing grad school applications.
Post by: Orpheus on November 27, 2010, 08:11:39 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DOR72J-2L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000J0ZPH4/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000J0ZPH4/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Scarpia on November 27, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/92337.jpg)
Faure, complete chamber music, Brilliant classics, licensed recordings from labels such as Hyperion and Claves. Fine artists, and excluding VAT less than £10 for 5 discs at www.mdt.co.uk.
Post by: Opus106 on November 27, 2010, 12:11:25 PM
Maybe this has been listed before, but after listen to some Faure today I couldn't resist it any longer.
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/92337.jpg)
Faure, complete chamber music, Brilliant classics, licensed recordings from labels such as Hyperion and Claves. Fine artists, and excluding VAT less than £10 for 5 discs at www.mdt.co.uk (http://www.mdt.co.uk).
The very French equivalent from EMI, which is recommended in these parts, is available for more or less the same price at Presto (and perhaps at MDT as well -- their shipping policy may cancel the price advantage out).
Post by: Scarpia on November 27, 2010, 06:38:17 PM
The very French equivalent from EMI, which is recommended in these parts, is available for more or less the same price at Presto (and perhaps at MDT as well -- their shipping policy may cancel the price advantage out).
I have half of that EMI set (from the days when they were selling it as volume I and volume II). It has that French authority thing going for it, but it also has EMI France engineering working against it, at times. The Brilliant set is taken from recent recordings made by labels with stirling reputations for audio engineering (as well as good artists). Probably we all need both sets. 8)
Post by: Conor71 on November 27, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
Maybe this has been listed before, but after listen to some Faure today I couldn't resist it any longer.I have that set and really enjoy it! - happy listening :).
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/92337.jpg)
Faure, complete chamber music, Brilliant classics, licensed recordings from labels such as Hyperion and Claves. Fine artists, and excluding VAT less than £10 for 5 discs at www.mdt.co.uk.
Post by: Grazioso on November 28, 2010, 05:01:52 AM
A steal?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DOR72J-2L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000J0ZPH4/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000J0ZPH4/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE)
Orpheus ;)
While this set contains good things, be aware that many of the recordings are from the 60's and leave something to be desired in the sound department. The Mozart set from that series is probably the better buy, imo.
Post by: (: premont :) on November 28, 2010, 12:18:01 PM
A steal?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DOR72J-2L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000J0ZPH4/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000J0ZPH4/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE)
Yes 20 £ for all this is a steal.
Among others the Hungarian Quartet`s Quartet cycle, Eric Heidsieck`s Sonata cycle and Cluytens´ Symphony cycle and much more. SQ generally more than acceptable. I admit that neither of these recordings would be my first choice, but I rate them rather highly, among top ten.
Post by: listener on November 28, 2010, 01:39:42 PM
http://www.amazon.fr/Beethoven-Chefs-doeuvre-coffret-50-CD/dp/B000J0ZPH4/ref=sr_1_28?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1290980057&sr=1-28
I'm tempted too.
Post by: not edward on November 30, 2010, 09:02:27 AM
Probably we all need both sets. 8)QFT.
It's Fauré's chamber music, after all (I confess to remaining baffled as to why this superlative music isn't better known).
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 30, 2010, 10:39:22 AM
Price on MDT (http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//2564620922.htm):$95.46/ $81.24 ex.VAT
:o :o :o
Post by: Opus106 on November 30, 2010, 11:00:59 AM
Post by: Brian on November 30, 2010, 11:13:57 AM
Post by: Opus106 on November 30, 2010, 11:25:29 AM
but still, let's not complain. Otherwise, we could hire Henk to dictate the thread rules. ;D
But seeing a new post in this thread raises my hopes up, creates that fleeting moment of happiness in a life within this cruel, cruel world. :( :-[
:D
Post by: Mirror Image on November 30, 2010, 11:31:48 AM
OK, finally taken the plunge on this box set that I've been considering for a little while.
£100 inc shipping from US to UK.
£1.60 per disc probably qualifies it for super-duper cheap
That's a fine series. I own almost all of them. My favorite of the series is still Reiner's Bartok recording, which really set a new standard for excellence not only in performance, but in audio quality as well.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on November 30, 2010, 11:46:16 AM
... Anyway, I don't think either really qualify as an SDCB, IMO. Bargains, yes... but not Super-duper cheap. :)
Excuse me, dear Navneeth, but this kind of discussion is so boooooooooring... ;D
Post by: Opus106 on November 30, 2010, 11:50:10 AM
;)
Post by: Que on November 30, 2010, 12:02:28 PM
(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2005/nov05/Scarlatti_sonatas_2564620922.jpg)
Price on MDT (http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//2564620922.htm):$95.46/ $81.24 ex.VAT
:o :o :o
And £61.25/ €72.61 (incl. VAT) Which is indeed pretty cheap. I got it the introductory price on reissue - around €69, if I remember well.
This is the very first time I've seen it come back down that low, so that was a good decision. 8)
Q
Post by: Orpheus on December 03, 2010, 07:48:39 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512xLmdhjnL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/Beethoven-Sonates-piano-Artur-Schnabel/dp/B000002S29/ref=sr_1_837?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1291390989&sr=1-837 (http://www.amazon.fr/Beethoven-Sonates-piano-Artur-Schnabel/dp/B000002S29/ref=sr_1_837?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1291390989&sr=1-837)
Post by: canninator on December 04, 2010, 06:00:52 AM
Another steal?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512xLmdhjnL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/Beethoven-Sonates-piano-Artur-Schnabel/dp/B000002S29/ref=sr_1_837?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1291390989&sr=1-837 (http://www.amazon.fr/Beethoven-Sonates-piano-Artur-Schnabel/dp/B000002S29/ref=sr_1_837?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1291390989&sr=1-837)
Sound is rubbish, better off with the Dante, Pearl, or Naxos transfers and paying a little extra.
Post by: George on December 04, 2010, 06:34:15 AM
Sound is rubbish, better off with the Dante, Pearl, or Naxos transfers and paying a little extra.
Seconded, especially for the Naxos, which (of the three options) is luckily also the cheapest, best sounding and easiest way to get these performances.
Post by: Coopmv on December 04, 2010, 09:02:19 AM
Seconded, especially for the Naxos, which (of the three options) is luckily also the cheapest, best sounding and easiest way to get these performances.
I am all set with my Schnabel's Beethoven Piano Sonatas on Naxos Historical. Thanks for your recommendation, George. :)
Post by: George on December 04, 2010, 10:05:04 AM
I am all set with my Schnabel's Beethoven Piano Sonatas on Naxos Historical. Thanks for your recommendation, George. :)
My pleasure, glad you enjoy them.
Post by: Coopmv on December 04, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
My pleasure, glad you enjoy them.
I am now enjoying those Chopin CD's by Kemal Gekic you have also recommended, though they are nowhere close to being Super-Duper Cheap Bargains ... :P
Post by: George on December 04, 2010, 10:29:54 AM
I am now enjoying those Chopin CD's by Kemal Gekic you have also recommended, though they are nowhere close to being Super-Duper Cheap Bargains ... :P
Still, they are worth every penny. 8)
Post by: Coopmv on December 04, 2010, 10:39:56 AM
Post by: Coopmv on December 04, 2010, 10:41:23 AM
Still, they are worth every penny. 8)
Absolutely. Kemal Gekic is one piano virtuoso I have never heard of until a few months ago ...
Post by: The new erato on December 04, 2010, 10:42:24 AM
Sometimes, you can find a Super-Duper Cheap Bargain with a little foresight. I bought this Toscanini Wagner 2 years ago for $12.99 IIRC. It is now OOP and the only one available on Amazon US has an asking price of almost $100 ... :oYes, if one buys everything this is bound to happen sooner or later......
Post by: Harry on December 05, 2010, 08:29:45 AM
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Joseph-Haydn-Symphonien-Nr-1-104/hnum/3866386
Post by: Orpheus on December 05, 2010, 08:57:05 AM
I think this could count as a super duper
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Joseph-Haydn-Symphonien-Nr-1-104/hnum/3866386
Harry, I saw it at euros 9,99 some months ago...
Post by: Harry on December 05, 2010, 09:05:22 AM
Harry, I saw it at euros 9,99 some months ago...
The complete Haydn Symphonies for 9,99, darn I wish you would have told me, I would have bought it right away.
Post by: Orpheus on December 05, 2010, 09:25:11 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419q93LOjRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000ICM70Q/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1291569881&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000ICM70Q/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1291569881&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Brian on December 05, 2010, 09:27:04 AM
EDIT: You don't have to say, if you want to keep amazing all of us 8)
Post by: Harry on December 05, 2010, 10:03:57 AM
Harry, if you are interested in Italian opera, try this...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419q93LOjRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000ICM70Q/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1291569881&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000ICM70Q/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1291569881&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Alas, my friend, opera is not my thing, but there are countless others on GMG that are, so this link will come in handy, and if you ever see this box again for 9, 95 let me know. :)
Post by: Coopmv on December 05, 2010, 11:39:20 AM
Harry, if you are interested in Italian opera, try this...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419q93LOjRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000ICM70Q/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1291569881&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000ICM70Q/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1291569881&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
When it comes to opera, Wagner is essentially the only game in town for me ...
Post by: Scarpia on December 05, 2010, 06:59:42 PM
Harry, I saw it at euros 9,99 some months ago...
That's the one with applause after each piece. For 10 Euros I'd pass it up.
Post by: scarlattiglenross on December 08, 2010, 04:26:54 AM
Quote from: On An Overgrown Path
Listening to this wonderfully inventive and forward-looking music really shows how wrong we are to categorise Hayn as a 'safe' composer. Joseph Haydn may not be neglected today, but he is certainly misunderstood.
The Aeolian's Haydn Quartet cycle was recorded in analogue sound between 1973 and 1976. Back then vinyl was still the pre-eminent playback format, and the Compact Cassette (remember that?) was merely a low-fi option for sound on the move, rather like MP3 today. The sound from the CD transfers of the Haydn is truly astonishing; there is an immediacy and body to the string sound that is rarely heard in more recent recordings, even when SACD and other miraculous technology is invoked.
Post by: Brian on December 08, 2010, 11:50:56 AM
Post by: evanft on December 10, 2010, 09:17:32 PM
I was browsing the last couple pages of this thread and was shocked to see no mention of the recent EMI box set blowout that ImportCDs had on their web site right before Thanksgiving. There were a few people over at the Steve Hoffman forum who heard about it in the classical thread, and I know a some of them post here.
Anywho, they had HUGE discounts on box sets from EMI. I'm talking like 90%+ off. Here's what I got:
$11.16 Alban Berg Quartet-Beethoven: The Complete String Quartets
$15.26 Bruckner: The Complete Symphonies by Jochum
$14.68 Maria Callas, The Complete Studio Recordings 1949-1969
$15.13 Aldo Ciccolini-Complete Emi Recordings 1950-1991
$13.93 Aldo Ciccolini-Satie: Piano Works (I found this on the site before the complete set, I'm gonna sell it)
$13.28 Composers In Person
$11.33 Elgar: The Collector's Edition
$10.96 Karajan-The Complete Emi Recordings 1946-1984, Vol. 1: Orchestral
$10.96 Karajan-The Complete Emi Recordings 1946-1984, Vol. 2: Opera & Vocal
$8.33 David Oistrakh: The Complete Recordings
$15.28 Mstislav Rostropovich: Complete Emi Recordings
$10.53 Paul Tortelier -The Great Emi Recordings
$11.13 Vaughan Williams: The Collector's Edition
Yeah, it was insane. The sale lasted about 2 days. A lot of the sets I ordered were out of stock, but they have since honored the prices and shipped everything. I just got the Callas set today.
Just a heads up to everyone to keep an eye out on their web site.
Post by: mc ukrneal on December 11, 2010, 03:15:54 AM
Hey everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster here.Welcome! Those are some unreal prices!
I was browsing the last couple pages of this thread and was shocked to see no mention of the recent EMI box set blowout that ImportCDs had on their web site right before Thanksgiving. There were a few people over at the Steve Hoffman forum who heard about it in the classical thread, and I know a some of them post here.
Anywho, they had HUGE discounts on box sets from EMI. I'm talking like 90%+ off. Here's what I got:
$11.16 Alban Berg Quartet-Beethoven: The Complete String Quartets
$15.26 Bruckner: The Complete Symphonies by Jochum
$14.68 Maria Callas, The Complete Studio Recordings 1949-1969
$15.13 Aldo Ciccolini-Complete Emi Recordings 1950-1991
$13.93 Aldo Ciccolini-Satie: Piano Works (I found this on the site before the complete set, I'm gonna sell it)
$13.28 Composers In Person
$11.33 Elgar: The Collector's Edition
$10.96 Karajan-The Complete Emi Recordings 1946-1984, Vol. 1: Orchestral
$10.96 Karajan-The Complete Emi Recordings 1946-1984, Vol. 2: Opera & Vocal
$8.33 David Oistrakh: The Complete Recordings
$15.28 Mstislav Rostropovich: Complete Emi Recordings
$10.53 Paul Tortelier -The Great Emi Recordings
$11.13 Vaughan Williams: The Collector's Edition
Yeah, it was insane. The sale lasted about 2 days. A lot of the sets I ordered were out of stock, but they have since honored the prices and shipped everything. I just got the Callas set today.
Just a heads up to everyone to keep an eye out on their web site.
Post by: Harry on December 11, 2010, 03:32:38 AM
Welcome! Those are some unreal prices!
Yeah especially the orchestral Karajan, would be nice if there would have been a link, if its still available:)
Post by: evanft on December 11, 2010, 05:37:28 AM
Yeah especially the orchestral Karajan, would be nice if there would have been a link, if its still available:)
The sale lasted about 2 days and has been over for about 2 weeks. The ImportCDs website is just www.importCDs.com (http://www.importCDs.com)
Post by: Coopmv on December 11, 2010, 10:42:51 AM
The sale lasted about 2 days and has been over for about 2 weeks. The ImportCDs website is just www.importCDs.com (http://www.importCDs.com)
I paid on average $1.50 per CD for the Vaughan Williams: The Collector's Edition set at Amazon US. The ImportCD price would have been about $0.40 per CD. I have not bought from ImportCD in months, its packaging is the worse among the Amazon MP vendors. I have not received any orders from them without any busted CD jewel cases in a very long time ... :-\
Post by: Scarpia on December 11, 2010, 10:45:24 AM
The sale lasted about 2 days and has been over for about 2 weeks. The ImportCDs website is just www.importCDs.com (http://www.importCDs.com)
It would have been helpful if you had posted that before the sale ended. ::)
Post by: Coopmv on December 11, 2010, 10:59:05 AM
It would have been helpful if you had posted that before the sale ended. ::)
The insane prices at which ImportCD was selling these CD sets might have something to do with the precarious financial condition of EMI, which is now doing all it can to maximize its cash flows. Back in last spring, I read an article that the private equity group that did the LBO on EMI might have to let EMI go into bankruptcy since it was in danger of violating the debt covenant with Citigroup. Perhaps ImportCD itself is in trouble as well ...
Post by: Scarpia on December 11, 2010, 11:20:49 AM
The insane prices at which ImportCD was selling these CD sets might have something to do with the precarious financial condition of EMI, which is now doing all it can to maximize its cash flows. Back in last spring, I read an article that the private equity group that did the LBO on EMI might have to let EMI go into bankruptcy since it was in danger of violating the debt covenant with Citigroup. Perhaps ImportCD itself is in trouble as well ...
I suspect ImportCD needed to raise cash and get rid of some idle inventory. EMI may or may not be near bankruptcy, but classical music is a small part of their business and their financial position presumably depends on their pop music business more than anything else.
It would be a shame if ImportCD disappeared. Their prices are low, and tend to push everyone else's prices down, so you benefit from them even if you don't buy from them. I've gotten a fair amount of stuff from ImportCD, but they ship from California so I normally prefer similar vendors that ship from the east coast. The one time I had a problem with one of the products I got from them they were very efficient in issuing a refund.
Post by: Coopmv on December 11, 2010, 11:26:49 AM
I suspect ImportCD needed to raise cash and get rid of some idle inventory. EMI may or may not be near bankruptcy, but classical music is a small part of their business and their financial position presumably depends on their pop music business more than anything else.
It would be a shame if ImportCD disappeared. Their prices are low, and tend to push everyone else's prices down, so you benefit from them even if you don't buy from them. I've gotten a fair amount of stuff from ImportCD, but they ship from California so I normally prefer similar vendors that ship from the east coast. The one time I had a problem with one of the products I got from them they were very efficient in issuing a refund.
I agree with you that ImportCD has put lots of pricing pressure on other Amazon MP vendors. As such, I do benefit from its pricing even though I no longer buy from it that often ...
Post by: 71 dB on December 12, 2010, 05:05:29 AM
$11.33 Elgar: The Collector's Edition
What the hell? I have been waiting for this set to get cheap for ages but it is not happening. I already own about half of the box and that's why I am unwilling to pay much for it. $43.43 on Amazon.com and £33.35 on Amazon.co.uk.
Post by: Harry on December 12, 2010, 05:13:11 AM
What the hell? I have been waiting for this set to get cheap for ages but it is not happening. I already own about half of the box and that's why I am unwilling to pay much for it. $43.43 on Amazon.com and £33.35 on Amazon.co.uk.
Yes, it would have been handy if the poster that knew about it, would have alerted us right away, it only lasted 2 days, but comes wandering in and proclaims what fine deals he had, but o, yeah, sorry guys the sale is over:(
Post by: canninator on December 14, 2010, 02:35:41 AM
For Chopin's fans...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GInRCejjL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
...look here!
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B003DQIQ7C/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1290462488&sr=1-5&condition=new (http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B003DQIQ7C/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1290462488&sr=1-5&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Too good to be true. I had been waiting on this for a while and the marketplace vendor just e-mailed me to say they cannot provide this and are refunding me. :(
Post by: George on December 14, 2010, 10:26:59 AM
Half off any single item at Borders, for the next three days. If you don't already have one, the required Borders Rewards membership is free and can be obtained in any store within a few minutes.
Post by: evanft on December 16, 2010, 03:36:21 AM
Yes, it would have been handy if the poster that knew about it, would have alerted us right away, it only lasted 2 days, but comes wandering in and proclaims what fine deals he had, but o, yeah, sorry guys the sale is over:(
I only found out about the sale at the tail end. By the time I thought to come post about it, it was already over.
Post by: nigeld on December 17, 2010, 06:25:19 AM
I then visited Amazon and found this box on for £33. It contains the music I was looking for plus another 10discs. Top notch ensembles as far as I can see.
Bargain time!
Post by: MN Dave on December 17, 2010, 06:29:08 AM
Following up a recommendation from another thread to buy a double cd from the Florestan Trio in Brahms, I went to the Hyperion website and saw it there for £23. Ouch!
I then visited Amazon and found this box on for £33. It contains the music I was looking for plus another 10discs. Top notch ensembles as far as I can see.
Bargain time!
Well done. Thanks.
Post by: mc ukrneal on December 17, 2010, 06:46:23 AM
Following up a recommendation from another thread to buy a double cd from the Florestan Trio in Brahms, I went to the Hyperion website and saw it there for £23. Ouch!I had picked it up for $14 at Berkshire (no longer available), but the box is a good way to get it as it has a number of not just good performances, but great performances.
I then visited Amazon and found this box on for £33. It contains the music I was looking for plus another 10discs. Top notch ensembles as far as I can see.
Bargain time!
Post by: Harry on December 17, 2010, 07:56:17 AM
Following up a recommendation from another thread to buy a double cd from the Florestan Trio in Brahms, I went to the Hyperion website and saw it there for £23. Ouch!
I then visited Amazon and found this box on for £33. It contains the music I was looking for plus another 10discs. Top notch ensembles as far as I can see.
Bargain time!
You mean 80 pounds, for thats the price, on Hyperions website. Would love it for 23 pounds, so if you have a link:)
Better still could someone give me a link to the lowest price of this set ;D ;D
Post by: Harry on December 17, 2010, 08:00:10 AM
I had picked it up for $14 at Berkshire (no longer available), but the box is a good way to get it as it has a number of not just good performances, but great performances.
Geez 14 dollars, Neal! Could you not have told me :( :( :(
Post by: nigeld on December 17, 2010, 08:06:29 AM
You mean 80 pounds, for thats the price, on Hyperions website. Would love it for 23 pounds, so if you have a link:)
Better still could someone give me a link to the lowest price of this set ;D ;D
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Hamelin-Lane-Power-Isserlis/dp/B001F4YGU0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292601956&sr=8-1
there you go Harry
Post by: mc ukrneal on December 17, 2010, 08:08:45 AM
Geez 14 dollars, Neal! Could you not have told me :( :( :(This was much earlier this year and I had no idea it would be so good. But I am talking about the 2CD set, not the box (just to be clear), which I don't have. The box was much talked about earlier this year at that French site sale - at least I seem to remember people posting about a very low price for it.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 17, 2010, 07:59:36 PM
AMAZON.DE EUR 11.97 (http://www.amazon.de/Die-Sinfonien-Bruno-Weil/dp/B001U0HB60/ref=sr_1_233?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1292644572&sr=1-233)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 17, 2010, 08:48:09 PM
6 CDs
AMAZON.DE EUR 19.14 (http://www.amazon.de/Sturm-Drang-Sinfonien-Joseph-Haydn/dp/B00004SA85/ref=pd_sim_m_3)
Post by: Orpheus on December 18, 2010, 07:34:20 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HYwDS72EL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
look here...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0009MWAVQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292686348&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0009MWAVQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292686348&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on December 18, 2010, 07:37:23 AM
Sarge
Post by: Orpheus on December 18, 2010, 07:41:38 AM
Hey, Orpheus. I want to thank you for the tip about the 8 Euro Haitink Ring. The seller came through--took him three weeks, but he delivered as advertised. 8)
Sarge
My turn next time ;)
I bought Haitink Ring too! I hope you enjoy the recording. It's my sencond Ring after Solti...
Post by: The new erato on December 18, 2010, 07:57:25 AM
Scarlatti's fans, it's your lucky day...Seems that though the seller is in the UK, he will not ship to Norway. Stupid ass.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HYwDS72EL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
look here...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0009MWAVQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292686348&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0009MWAVQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292686348&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Orpheus on December 18, 2010, 08:03:53 AM
Seems that though the seller is in the UK, he will not ship to Norway. Stupid ass.
I read "In stock. Dispatched from United Kingdom.
International & domestic delivery rates "
Post by: Sergeant Rock on December 18, 2010, 08:06:54 AM
It's my second Ring after Solti...
It's my twelfth :D ...but hey, one can't have too many Rings. :)
Sarge
Post by: The new erato on December 18, 2010, 08:07:52 AM
I read "In stock. Dispatched from United Kingdom.Until you put it in the basket and the delivery adress is Norway, and the order is refused. These stupid bastards will ship to Roumania (as an EU country) but not to Norway. I can practically see their stupid little island across the North Sea from my window in Bergen!
International & domestic delivery rates "
Post by: Lethevich on December 18, 2010, 08:13:33 AM
Post by: Orpheus on December 18, 2010, 08:15:01 AM
Until you put it in the basket and the delivery adress is Norway, and the order is refused. These stupid bastards will ship to Roumania (as an EU country) but not to Norway. I can practically see their stupid little island across the North Sea from my window in Bergen!
I'm sorry for the inconvenience caused to you :-[
Post by: Opus106 on December 18, 2010, 08:18:57 AM
Until you put it in the basket and the delivery adress is Norway, and the order is refused. These stupid bastards will ship to Roumania (as an EU country) but not to Norway. I can practically see their stupid little island across the North Sea from my window in Bergen!
Then catch a ferry and go buy it in person! :P
Post by: The new erato on December 18, 2010, 08:22:24 AM
I'm sorry for the inconvenience caused to you :-[Not your problem. Happens a lot of the times with amazon resellers that seem to think that Norway is far away in the wilderness since we're not part of the f....g EU.
Post by: rubio on December 18, 2010, 08:48:49 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-J-S-Complete-Organ-Works/dp/B001R3YJS8/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3LUCY0Y6LF6WW&colid=1L61W0MN46OUE
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-A%2BtKTCFL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Post by: Que on December 18, 2010, 08:56:38 AM
This set for $15.90 over at amazon! Already ordered :).
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-J-S-Complete-Organ-Works/dp/B001R3YJS8/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3LUCY0Y6LF6WW&colid=1L61W0MN46OUE
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-A%2BtKTCFL.jpg)
Wow... That's a great deal for what I consider a superb Bach organ set! :)
Q
Post by: The new erato on December 18, 2010, 08:57:10 AM
Post by: Scarpia on December 18, 2010, 09:00:34 AM
Bought it too. Thanks rubio!
I thought I had a great deal when I got it for $50 earlier this year. :(
Post by: Orpheus on December 18, 2010, 09:03:05 AM
This set for $15.90 over at amazon! Already ordered :).
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-J-S-Complete-Organ-Works/dp/B001R3YJS8/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3LUCY0Y6LF6WW&colid=1L61W0MN46OUE
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-A%2BtKTCFL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Which is the total amount that I have to pay for charge import duties, taxes and fees to EU?
Post by: Opus106 on December 18, 2010, 09:58:20 AM
This set for $15.90 over at amazon! Already ordered :).
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-J-S-Complete-Organ-Works/dp/B001R3YJS8/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3LUCY0Y6LF6WW&colid=1L61W0MN46OUE
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-A%2BtKTCFL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Thank you so much, Rubio. I have never had things shipped directly to me from Amazon due to their shipping charges, but even with that included this comes to a grand total of $24.88, which is half of what UK-based discounts offer. :)
Post by: Papy Oli on December 18, 2010, 10:42:06 AM
Der Ring Des Nibelungen - Hans Knappertsbusch & The Bayreuth Festival Orchestra & Chorus
MP3 Download for £ 6.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Der-Ring-Des-Nibelungen/dp/B004CGQWL4/ref=sr_1_276?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1292697372&sr=1-276 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Der-Ring-Des-Nibelungen/dp/B004CGQWL4/ref=sr_1_276?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1292697372&sr=1-276)
Post by: Maciek on December 18, 2010, 10:47:56 AM
These stupid bastards will ship to Roumania (as an EU country) but not to Norway.
I very much doubt they will. Amazon payments does not cover any of the "new" EU countries.
See this (taken from here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=3149601)):
Quote
Countries Covered
So far, Marketplace items can only be purchased by buyers in these countries:
UK: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales
Europe: Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland
US: including US protectorates
Rest of World: Australia, Brazil, Canada, Hong Kong, Iceland, Japan, Norway, Republic of Korea, Mexico, New Zealand, South Africa
What makes it especially ridiculous, is that people living in countries such as Poland (or Lithuania, or Colombia, or China) can sell on amazon marketplace, they just can't buy anything. ???
See this (taken from here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200411750)):
Quote
Countries Accepted for Seller Registration
Please find below the list of the countries currently supported to sell on Amazon.co.uk. Please note that in order to be able to sell on Amazon.co.uk, you need to be resident in one of the following countries, have a local phone number and have an internationally chargeable credit card.
Argentina Costa Rica Hong Kong Liechtenstein Slovakia
Australia Cyprus Hungary Lithuania Slovenia
Austria Czech Republic Iceland Luxembourg Spain
Belgium Denmark India Mexico Sweden
Brazil Estonia Ireland Netherlands Switzerland
Bulgaria Finland Israel New Zealand Taiwan
Canada France Italy Norway Turkey
Chile Germany Japan Poland United Kingdom
China Greece Latvia Portugal United States
Colombia
(Sorry for the long post, but this is a pet peeve.)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 18, 2010, 12:00:06 PM
Until you put it in the basket and the delivery adress is Norway, and the order is refused. These stupid bastards will ship to Roumania (as an EU country) but not to Norway. I can practically see their stupid little island across the North Sea from my window in Bergen!
Probably that's the problem! I mean some medieval bad memories. ;D
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 18, 2010, 12:14:01 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZGNVHB6KL.jpg)
£67.99 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/BBC-TV-Shakespeare-Collection-DVD/dp/B000B6F8V4/ref=pd_sim_m_h__31)
The BBC TV Shakespeare Collection [37 DVD]
This thirty-seven disc box set includes the following BBC Shakespeare Adaptations from the BBC series from 1978 to 1985:
1. Romeo And Juliet - Directed by Alvin Rakoff (1978)
2. Richard II - Directed by Jane Howell (1983)
3. As You Like It - Directed by Basil Coleman (1978)
4. Julius Caesar - Directed by Herbert Wise (1979)
5. Measure For Measure - Directed by Desmond Davis (1979)
6. Henry VIII - Directed Kevin Billington (1979)
7. Henry IV: Parts I & II - Directed by David Giles (1979)
8. Henry V: Parts I & II - Directed by David Giles (1979)
9. Twelfth Night - Directed by John Gorrie (1980)
10. The Tempest - Directed by John Gorrie (1980)
11. The Taming Of The Shrew - Directed by Jonathan Miller (1980)
12. The Merchant Of Venice - Directed by Jack Gold (1980)
13. All's Well That Ends Well - Directed by Elijah Moshinsky (1981)
14. The Winter's Tale - Directed by Jane Howell (1981)
15. Timon Of Athens - Directed by Jonathan Miller (1981)
16. Antony And Cleopatra - Directed by Jonathan Miller (1981)
17. Othello - Directed by Jonathan Miller (1981)
18. Troilus And Cressada - Directed by Jonathan Miller (1981)
19. The Merry Wives of Windsor - Directed by David Hugh Jones (1982)
20. Henry VI: Parts I, II & III - Directed by Jane Howell (1983)
21. The Tragedy Of Richard III - Directed by Jane Howell (1983)
22. Cymbeline - Directed by Elijah Moshinsky (1982)
23. The Comedy Of Errors - Directed by James Cellan Jones (1983)
24. Two Gentlemen Of Verona - Directed by Don Taylor (1983)
25. Coriolanus - Directed by Elijah Moshinsky (1984)
26. The Life And Death Of King John - Directed by David Giles (1984)
27. Pericles: Prince Of Tyre - Directed by David Hugh Jones (1984)
28. Much Ado About Nothing - Directed by Stuart Burge (1984)
29. Love's Labour's Lost - Directed by Elijah Moshinsky (1985)
30. Titus Andronicus - Directed by Jane Howell (1985)
31. Hamlet - Directed by Rodney Bennett (1980)
32. King Lear - Directed by Jonathan Miller (1982)
33. Macbeth - Directed by Jack Gold (1983)
34. A Midsummer Night's Dream - Directed by Elijah Moshinsky (1981)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 18, 2010, 12:18:50 PM
Scarlatti's fans, it's your lucky day...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HYwDS72EL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
look here...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0009MWAVQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292686348&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0009MWAVQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292686348&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Orpheus, what was the price for that set on the AMP?
Post by: Lethevich on December 18, 2010, 12:25:04 PM
This set looks nice:I picked this up for £50 on Amazon a few months ago, and at this price it remains a bargain. Some of the productions are a little wooly, but they have great integrity.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZGNVHB6KL.jpg)
£67.99 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/BBC-TV-Shakespeare-Collection-DVD/dp/B000B6F8V4/ref=pd_sim_m_h__31)
The BBC TV Shakespeare Collection [37 DVD]
This thirty-seven disc box set includes the following BBC Shakespeare Adaptations from the BBC series from 1978 to 1985:
Post by: Orpheus on December 18, 2010, 12:48:34 PM
Orpheus, what was the price for that set on the AMP?
Too late Antoine...it was 24 pounds...
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 18, 2010, 01:01:29 PM
Too late Antoine...it was 24 pounds...
... ooops. Anyway, I can't buy on the AMP from Chile. Too bad! >:(
P.S.: Well, I own that box set, so it is not a big disappointment. ;D
Post by: The new erato on December 18, 2010, 03:20:56 PM
Probably that's the problem! I mean some medieval bad memories. ;DI'll go fetch some chaps and ravage them again.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 18, 2010, 03:34:10 PM
I'll go fetch some chaps and ravage them again.
;D :D ;D
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/5182679846_55e18fa9b8.jpg)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 19, 2010, 04:56:22 AM
http://www.amazon.de/Das-Orgelwerk-Lionel-Rogg/dp/B000027OAA/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1292763179&sr=8-17
Lionel Rogg
Organ Works (12 CDs)
EUR 29.99
Post by: Harry on December 19, 2010, 05:13:06 AM
I can't purchase this item for myself on AMP.de :'(, so I suppose this advice will be useful to another GMGer:
http://www.amazon.de/Das-Orgelwerk-Lionel-Rogg/dp/B000027OAA/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1292763179&sr=8-17
Lionel Rogg
Organ Works (12 CDs)
EUR 29.99
Not so good, the info says that CD 3 is missing from this box :(
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 19, 2010, 05:47:31 AM
Not so good, the info says that CD 3 is missing from this box :(
You're right, Harry. It seemed very very good... But I didn't read the description of the seller. I am not an experienced AMP buyer... ;D
Post by: Orpheus on December 20, 2010, 01:39:50 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61OhU-5ITjL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
click here!
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001QBXFTA/sr=8-1/qid=1292837548/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1292837548&sr=8-1&seller= (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001QBXFTA/sr=8-1/qid=1292837548/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1292837548&sr=8-1&seller=)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Brian on December 20, 2010, 01:51:03 AM
Interested to this box?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61OhU-5ITjL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
click here!
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001QBXFTA/sr=8-1/qid=1292837548/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1292837548&sr=8-1&seller= (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001QBXFTA/sr=8-1/qid=1292837548/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1292837548&sr=8-1&seller=)
Orpheus ;)
Wow, that link was up for only ten minutes and the price is already 70 euros. :(
Post by: The new erato on December 20, 2010, 01:53:32 AM
Not that I'm interested, I already have the Kodaly and Buchberger complete cycles, all the Mosaiques discs as well as a few Festetics sets...... :D
BTW; the Koopman organ set on amazon.com already is back to $67.
Post by: Brian on December 20, 2010, 03:35:26 AM
Post by: Orpheus on December 20, 2010, 03:50:18 AM
Wow, that link was up for only ten minutes and the price is already 70 euros. :(
Brian, look now! ;)
Post by: The new erato on December 20, 2010, 03:59:08 AM
Amazon UK appears to be having a blowout sale! The massive, legendary (round these parts) Works of Igor Stravinsky 22CD box is tempting me at 18 quid (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Works-Igor-Stravinsky-22cd/dp/B000PTYUQG/ref=pd_bxgy_m_h__text_c), the Alban Berg Quartet Beethoven cycle is similarly teasing at 17 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-String-Quartets-Ludwig-van/dp/B000026D4J/ref=pd_sim_m_h__23), and Emil Gilels' EMI Icon Box (9 CDs) is about the same price (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Emil-Gilels-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNXS/ref=pd_sim_m_h__99), containing the Beethoven concerti with Szell/Cleveland, the Tchaikovsky concerti, and a couple other bits and bobs.Those prices have been regularly available om eg mdt.co.uk and others for a very long time.
Post by: Orpheus on December 20, 2010, 04:35:40 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JThVP8cDL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
...it's your lucky day!
look here!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00008RWR9/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292848222&sr=1-196&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00008RWR9/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292848222&sr=1-196&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: mc ukrneal on December 20, 2010, 06:03:05 AM
Post by: Grazioso on December 20, 2010, 06:41:40 AM
If you are interested to this box...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JThVP8cDL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
...it's your lucky day!
look here!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00008RWR9/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292848222&sr=1-196&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00008RWR9/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1292848222&sr=1-196&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
FYI, I believe those same recordings are included in this bigger box set:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51dH5xXNtSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Post by: Coopmv on December 20, 2010, 07:26:53 AM
Wow, that link was up for only ten minutes and the price is already 70 euros. :(
Yeah, Where is the beef? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0)
Post by: Coopmv on December 20, 2010, 07:29:10 AM
Thank you so much, Rubio. I have never had things shipped directly to me from Amazon due to their shipping charges, but even with that included this comes to a grand total of $24.88, which is half of what UK-based discounts offer. :)
Ironically, I bought this box set from the UK, either MDT or Presto at an excellent price ...
Post by: The new erato on December 20, 2010, 11:37:40 AM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0886974433125.jpg)
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Joseph-Haydn-Symphonien-Nr-1-104/hnum/3866386 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Joseph-Haydn-Symphonien-Nr-1-104/hnum/3866386)
Post by: Opus106 on December 20, 2010, 11:40:27 AM
Ironically, I bought this box set from the UK, either MDT or Presto at an excellent price ...
Our definitions of "excellent price" are obviously not the same. 0:)
Post by: Coopmv on December 20, 2010, 11:44:09 AM
Our definitions of "excellent price" are obviously not the same. 0:)
Mostly likely not since you probably have to pay a bit more on shipping ...
Post by: Coopmv on December 20, 2010, 11:46:33 AM
30 Euros:
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0886974433125.jpg)
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Joseph-Haydn-Symphonien-Nr-1-104/hnum/3866386 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Joseph-Haydn-Symphonien-Nr-1-104/hnum/3866386)
Being a late comer to the big-box game, Sony is finally coming on strong ... ;)
Post by: Papy Oli on December 20, 2010, 12:40:13 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Kfq5FwngL._SS500_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B002P3J3BW/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96 (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B002P3J3BW/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96)
Post by: Coopmv on December 20, 2010, 03:54:29 PM
Considering other offered prices for that boxset, that does look like a steal...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Kfq5FwngL._SS500_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B002P3J3BW/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96 (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B002P3J3BW/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96)
It may not be a good deal for someone who has to pay a lot to get the box shipped ...
Post by: Opus106 on December 21, 2010, 06:13:58 AM
BTW; the Koopman organ set on amazon.com already is back to $67.
And now down to $29.31 (http://www.amazon.com/Bach-J-S-Complete-Organ-Works/dp/B001R3YJS8/ref=sr_1_11?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1292694741&sr=1-11). But they're still temporarily out of stock.
Post by: Coopmv on December 21, 2010, 07:01:45 AM
And now down to $29.31 (http://www.amazon.com/Bach-J-S-Complete-Organ-Works/dp/B001R3YJS8/ref=sr_1_11?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1292694741&sr=1-11). But they're still temporarily out of stock.
and could remain OOS for a while. I am still on CD2 but will catch up eventually.
Post by: The new erato on December 21, 2010, 09:05:31 AM
Post by: Harry on December 21, 2010, 09:17:04 AM
Every time I click on this thread my credit card cringes in anticipation of the pain.
I have suffered this pain for over 35 years, so whats new? ;D
Post by: Scarpia on December 21, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//2564613992.htm
less than 12 pounds, excluding VAT.
Post by: Orpheus on December 22, 2010, 07:45:22 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5132GqxMUOL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mahler-Symphonies-Leonard-Bernstein/dp/B0033QC0WY/ref=sr_1_19?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1293032545&sr=1-19 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mahler-Symphonies-Leonard-Bernstein/dp/B0033QC0WY/ref=sr_1_19?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1293032545&sr=1-19)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: DavidRoss on December 22, 2010, 08:01:25 AM
For mahlerians only...A reissue of Lenny's DGG cycle with NYPO, WP, & RCO, offered for £15.99--a pittance, for one of the greatest cycles on record. If you don't have it already, then get click-happy, pronto!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5132GqxMUOL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Post by: Scarpia on December 22, 2010, 08:04:45 AM
A reissue of Lenny's DGG cycle with NYPO, WP, & RCO, offered for £15.99--a pittance, for one of the greatest cycles on record. If you don't have it already, then get click-happy, pronto!
I thought I had a bargain when I picked one up for $34 at "blowitoutahere" on Amazon marketplace. :( Well, with shipping almost the same price.
Post by: DavidRoss on December 22, 2010, 08:09:17 AM
I thought I had a bargain when I picked one up for $34 at "blowitoutahere" on Amazon marketplace. :( Well, with shipping almost the same price.You had a great bargain. So did I, back when I paid about $80 for the set. Contains several of my "go to" recordings of some of my favorite symphonies.
Post by: scarlattiglenross on December 22, 2010, 10:21:48 AM
Interested to this box?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61OhU-5ITjL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
click here!
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001QBXFTA/sr=8-1/qid=1292837548/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1292837548&sr=8-1&seller= (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001QBXFTA/sr=8-1/qid=1292837548/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1292837548&sr=8-1&seller=)
Orpheus ;)
I was lucky enough to get to this deal in time. However, I have just been informed by Amazon France that the seller has cancelled my order.
C'est la vie.
Post by: Orpheus on December 22, 2010, 10:26:37 AM
I was lucky enough to get to this deal in time. However, I have just been informed by Amazon France that the seller has cancelled my order.
C'est la vie.
Same message to me! :-\
Post by: scarlattiglenross on December 22, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
Same message to me! :-\
Never mind. I wonder if their American colleagues will pull a similar stunt on my $15.99 complete Bach organ works...
Post by: Papy Oli on December 22, 2010, 12:01:46 PM
For mahlerians only...
Orpheus ;)
thank you for the heads up Orpheus. t'is ordered. :)
Post by: Scarpia on December 22, 2010, 01:25:24 PM
Interested to this box?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61OhU-5ITjL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
click here!
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001QBXFTA/sr=8-1/qid=1292837548/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1292837548&sr=8-1&seller= (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001QBXFTA/sr=8-1/qid=1292837548/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1292837548&sr=8-1&seller=)
Orpheus ;)
It would be useful if you listed the price. I have no way of knowing if the price shown when I follow the link is the price you were talking about.
I was intent on getting this set when it first came out, and I see from my records that I managed to snag a copy for $45 from an amazon.com seller. That was from MovieMars. Still, I now find myself with more Haydn than is justified by my love of the composer. Perhaps I should wait for it to go tragically out of print and sell it off. :P
Post by: ammar on December 22, 2010, 03:04:27 PM
Looks like Amazon.co.uk are price matching the British 'bricks & mortar' retailer HMV. There are some good bargains to be had, including the above. Amazon.co.uk have also price matched the Gieseking & Solomon EMI Icons box sets at £6.99 a pop. To see the full listings - Go to http://hmv.com/ (http://hmv.com/) , click on sale , click on 'CDs from £2.99' , then on Classical (all the way at the bottom left of the page) to peruse the goodies (and no, I don't know about their overseas delivery policy).
Along with the Bernstein Mahler set, the best bargain is probably :
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51z4Jd3YWEL._SS500_.jpg)
for £29.99 delivered (in the UK) :)
Post by: ammar on December 22, 2010, 04:18:11 PM
(http://www.abeillemusique.com/images/references/cyp7650.jpg)
http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CYP7650/5412217076504/Cypres/Orchestre-Philharmonique-de-Liege/50e-Anniversaire/cleart-36684.html (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CYP7650/5412217076504/Cypres/Orchestre-Philharmonique-de-Liege/50e-Anniversaire/cleart-36684.html)
For me, shipping worked out cheaper via Abeille's listing on Amazon.fr :
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B004DKDO1A/ (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B004DKDO1A/)
Post by: Coopmv on December 22, 2010, 04:41:57 PM
Along with the Bernstein Mahler set, the best bargain is probably :
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51z4Jd3YWEL._SS500_.jpg)
for £29.99 delivered (in the UK) :)
This was pretty much what I paid when I purchased this set from Amazon UK in the summer of 09, though I had to pay for the shipping to the US.
Post by: Brian on December 23, 2010, 02:14:20 AM
Browsing the Abeille Musique site, I came across this intriguing anthology of Orchestre Philharmonique de Liège performances, which also happily qualifies as a super-duper cheap bargain :
(http://www.abeillemusique.com/images/references/cyp7650.jpg)
http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CYP7650/5412217076504/Cypres/Orchestre-Philharmonique-de-Liege/50e-Anniversaire/cleart-36684.html (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/CYP7650/5412217076504/Cypres/Orchestre-Philharmonique-de-Liege/50e-Anniversaire/cleart-36684.html)
For me, shipping worked out cheaper via Abeille's listing on Amazon.fr :
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B004DKDO1A/ (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B004DKDO1A/)
Hey LETHE/SARGE, there are at least two discs of Tournemire in there!
Post by: Lethevich on December 23, 2010, 06:33:18 AM
Hey LETHE/SARGE, there are at least two discs of Tournemire in there!Haha indeed - I am also suitably impressed by the 3 discs of Lekeu and various other cool things - looks like I'm going to have to pick up this little treasure box. Thanks to you and Ammar!
Edit: Only €3.40 shipping from Amazon.fr - in total, 50 CDs for the price of 3 Hyperion discs - eek.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 23, 2010, 07:23:29 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41AzrHXFrCL._SS500_.jpg)
Discothèque Idéale Classique 100 CD
EUR 49.99 at amazon.fr (http://www.amazon.fr/Discoth%C3%A8que-Id%C3%A9ale-Classique-100-CD/dp/B000OPOEKI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293117414&sr=8-1)
[JPC- EUR 130; amazon.de - EUR 138, etc.]
:)
Post by: Orpheus on December 23, 2010, 08:47:19 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51z4Jd3YWEL._SS500_.jpg)
for £29.99 delivered (in the UK) :)
Just ordered, thank you! ;)
Post by: evanft on December 23, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
Post by: kishnevi on December 23, 2010, 06:31:39 PM
A reissue of Lenny's DGG cycle with NYPO, WP, & RCO, offered for £15.99--a pittance, for one of the greatest cycles on record. If you don't have it already, then get click-happy, pronto!
I got it when it came out for about $45, IIRC.
Be warned: it does not contain DLvdE or the song cycles for single soloist. And the symphonies are spread over discs and crammed together in no real order after the first three. A compressed table of contents
CD 1 Sym. 1 complete Sym. 2 Mvmt. 1
CD 3 Sym. 2 Mvmts 2-5
CD 3 Sym. 3 Mvmts 1-3
and then the fun begins
CD 4 Sym. 3 Mvmts. 4-6 Sym. 6 Mvmts. 1-2
CD 5 Sym. 6 Mvmts. 3-4 Sym. 9 Mvmt. 1
CD 6 Sym. 9 Mvmts 2-4
CD 7 Sym. 5--the only symphony in the box which is both complete on one disc and does not share space with part of another
CD 8 Sym. 7 Mvmts 1-4
CD 9 Sym. 7 Mvmt. 5 Sym. 4 complete
CD 10 Sym. 10 Adagio Sym. 8 Part I
CD 11 Sym. 8 Part II
of course, some of this was Bernstein, since six of his performances are too long to fit on one CD.
If cost is not a priority, all of Bernstein's DG Mahler recordings, including DLvdE and the song cycle, are available in a set of three boxes for a price (last time I looked, which was a while ago) of roughly $110.00 USD
Post by: Gurn Blanston on December 23, 2010, 06:51:13 PM
Shostakovich: The String Quartets by Fitz William Quartet 6CD brand new copy for $1.99+$3 shipping (http://cgi.ebay.com/Shostakovich-String-Quartets-Love-and-Sas-6-CDs-/310273728595?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item483dc16053)
Pity I already have it, that's a bargain waiting for someone! :)
8)
Post by: mc ukrneal on December 24, 2010, 01:09:10 AM
Geez 14 dollars, Neal! Could you not have told me :( :( :(It's back at Berkshire (the 2 disc set of Brahms trios) for $14. The full set was here as well, but at something like $60.
Post by: listener on December 24, 2010, 01:30:49 AM
Haha indeed - I am also suitably impressed by the 3 discs of Lekeu and various other cool things - looks like I'm going to have to pick up this little treasure box. Thanks to you and Ammar!shipping to Canada only €10.90 I think I get them at $1.14 per disc! Price shown is for ECU so shipping to North America knocks off 15? 18% ordered from amazon.fr !!!!! €31.53 + shipping ...
Edit: Only €3.40 shipping from Amazon.fr - in total, 50 CDs for the price of 3 Hyperion discs - eek.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 25, 2010, 04:06:23 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41v1egv4hPL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
£10.89
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Chopin-F/dp/B003DQIQ7C/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1293278520&sr=1-1
This time all the description is right: picture, title, number of discs, even ASIN (Amazon Standard Identification Number).
8)
Post by: Que on December 25, 2010, 06:02:27 AM
I guess these guys don't learn:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41v1egv4hPL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
£10.89
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Chopin-F/dp/B003DQIQ7C/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1293278520&sr=1-1
This time all the description is right: picture, title, number of discs, even ASIN (Amazon Standard Identification Number).
8)
I'm really tempted to try again. :)
But they probably won't deliver - I can already picture it: two or three messages that delivery has been postponed and in the end an anullment... ::) :P
Still... 8)
Q
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 25, 2010, 06:22:23 AM
I'm really tempted to try again. :)
But they probably won't deliver - I can already picture it: two or three messages that delivery has been postponed and in the end an anullment... ::) :P
Still... 8)
Well, my set was dispatched from Amazon France two weeks ago; but I didn't resist to try my fortune and today I ordered another one from Amazon UK. IMO they can't argue that this product is not in stock because it will be available on January 11. I think we have a strong case, Q. ;)
Post by: ammar on December 25, 2010, 10:03:17 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Chopin-F/dp/B004EQAUZQ/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Chopin-F/dp/B004EQAUZQ/)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Piesni-Songs-F-Chopin/dp/B00383YC1Y/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Piesni-Songs-F-Chopin/dp/B00383YC1Y/)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Chopin-F/dp/B003DQIQ7C/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Chopin-F/dp/B003DQIQ7C/)
Post by: evanft on December 25, 2010, 12:03:04 PM
I guess these guys don't learn:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41v1egv4hPL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
£10.89
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Chopin-F/dp/B003DQIQ7C/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1293278520&sr=1-1
This time all the description is right: picture, title, number of discs, even ASIN (Amazon Standard Identification Number).
8)
The ASIN is B003DQIQ7C. That's the ASIN of Songs. The ASIN for the big box on Amazon UK and US is B004EQAUZQ.
Post by: scarlattiglenross on December 25, 2010, 12:36:05 PM
I paid on average $1.50 per CD for the Vaughan Williams: The Collector's Edition set at Amazon US. The ImportCD price would have been about $0.40 per CD. I have not bought from ImportCD in months, its packaging is the worse among the Amazon MP vendors. I have not received any orders from them without any busted CD jewel cases in a very long time ... :-\
Right now this set is 27.99 GBP on Amazon UK (matching HMV's sale price). Is this the best price around at the moment? I don't want to put this down, bargain as it is, to discover it on sale for ten pounds somewhere tomorrow!
Post by: Antoine Marchand on December 25, 2010, 01:54:17 PM
The ASIN is B003DQIQ7C. That's the ASIN of Songs. The ASIN for the big box on Amazon UK and US is B004EQAUZQ.
Amazon has made a lot of mistakes, so it is impossible to be completely sure; both Amazon USA and UK have confused the big box with a single disc of songs.
But AFAIK the only Amazon site currently delivering the big box is the Amazon France (I don't know the reason why, but Amazon France always has these things first). Amazon France has the box in stock, including a correct description: title, number of discs and even you can read a review about the box set. Well, the ASIN indicated there for the big box is B003DQIQ7C.
You can check out this link:
http://www.amazon.fr/Real-Chopin-Complete-Works/dp/B003DQIQ7C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293312338&sr=8-1
If it's not the big box, well... all the info and even the review would be incorrect and that would mean that I paid EUR 90 for a single disc on Amazon France. :o
Post by: ammar on December 25, 2010, 03:22:12 PM
scarlattiglenross - try under http://www.cdspot.co.uk/ (http://www.cdspot.co.uk/) . It's the least ad ridden and most comprehensive comparison site for UK releases that I know of. Just copy/paste the Amazon.co.uk title into the cdspot search and hey presto (though you'll need to remove any punctuation marks, as they seem to 'break' the search engine) - for example http://www.cdspot.co.uk/B00156ZWV0.html (http://www.cdspot.co.uk/B00156ZWV0.html) :)
Post by: Coopmv on December 25, 2010, 06:33:49 PM
Right now this set is 27.99 GBP on Amazon UK (matching HMV's sale price). Is this the best price around at the moment? I don't want to put this down, bargain as it is, to discover it on sale for ten pounds somewhere tomorrow!
27.99 GBP is a rational price. My sense is ImportCD sold the set at $11 USD at a loss and you are unlikely to see that insane price again ...
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on January 07, 2011, 06:50:27 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wcH%2BpyEFL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Here's a Marvellous SACD/Hybrid of
Mozart's Wind Concerti (selected)
I suppose its mainly for UK only at £0.99p & £0.95 shipping = £1.94p is a steal, esp for music making of such wonderful high quality. All the solists are accompanied by the elite strings of the Concertgebouw Orchestra...marvellous!!
USA shipping appears to be £2.50p. I have bought a few for Family & Friends. Seller apparantly has 50 for sale, hence the price and has sold 28...so with 22 left there's time for anyone who fancies one to grab it. I see GMG's very own, Scott Morrison reviewed this on USA Amazon and was very impressed at how good it is, and I can second that.
Definately worth checking out....
Mozart SACD/Hybrid (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOZART-CD-WIND-CONCERTOS-NEW-AND-SEALED-71-mins-/390271644730?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL&hash=item5ade00b43a)
Current Amazon UK Prices : £14 New - £9.50 : Used plus standard shipping of £1.26p
Post by: Lethevich on January 07, 2011, 07:13:36 PM
Post by: Orpheus on January 13, 2011, 11:12:57 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51juuQHTkQL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Benjamin-Britten-Collectors-Box-Set/dp/B001EOOC3W/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1294945912&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Benjamin-Britten-Collectors-Box-Set/dp/B001EOOC3W/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1294945912&sr=1-1)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 13, 2011, 11:46:28 AM
Britten's fans, look here23.99 Pounds for those too lazy to click the link.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51juuQHTkQL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Benjamin-Britten-Collectors-Box-Set/dp/B001EOOC3W/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1294945912&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Benjamin-Britten-Collectors-Box-Set/dp/B001EOOC3W/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1294945912&sr=1-1)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: karlhenning on January 13, 2011, 11:54:05 AM
Post by: 71 dB on January 14, 2011, 07:44:25 AM
23.99 Pounds for those too lazy to click the link.
Why Britten (37 CDs) and Vaughan-Williams (30 CDs) boxes are £23.99 but Elgar box (30 CDs) is £38.99? Very unfair to us ELGARIANS! >:(
Post by: DavidRoss on January 14, 2011, 07:49:04 AM
Why Britten (37 CDs) and Vaughan-Williams (30 CDs) boxes are £23.99 but Elgar box (30 CDs) is £38.99? Very unfair to us ELGARIANS! >:(Perhaps pricing is market driven?
Post by: Opus106 on January 14, 2011, 07:49:44 AM
Why Britten (37 CDs) and Vaughan-Williams (30 CDs) boxes are £23.99 but Elgar box (30 CDs) is £38.99? Very unfair to us ELGARIANS! >:(
Aren't you proud/overjoyed that Elgar is valued more? ;)
Post by: The new erato on January 14, 2011, 09:43:12 AM
Post by: Orpheus on January 14, 2011, 11:30:22 AM
I think it is to protect children.
(http://www.ruralpini.it/images/Capuzzola/Lupo%20cattivo.jpg)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on January 14, 2011, 05:41:16 PM
I guess these guys don't learn:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41v1egv4hPL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
£10.89
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Chopin-F/dp/B003DQIQ7C/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1293278520&sr=1-1
This time all the description is right: picture, title, number of discs, even ASIN (Amazon Standard Identification Number).
8)
Apparently my conclusions were not wrong. Now when this link above is clicked the price shown is £71.99 and the box set is announced for the next Monday... I ordered it for £9.08, VAT excl. Anyway, it will take some weeks to know the result of this bet. :)
Post by: minamazzini on January 15, 2011, 01:16:41 PM
Only trouble is I rather hastily ordered from a seller on Amazon when one popped up as well , for £14 from the states...I did ask them whether it was a 21 cd box and they replied...'sorry, I don't know'...hmmm :o
The Britten box has to be a bargain though...mine is on it's way ;D
Post by: 71 dB on January 16, 2011, 02:36:57 AM
Perhaps pricing is market driven?
Classical music pricing is usually label driven and I don't think Elgar is that more popular on the market than Britten and Vaughan-Williams.
Aren't you proud/overjoyed that Elgar is valued more? ;)
In a way yes, but being proud does not make anyone a millionaire. I already own about half of the Elgar box so I'd like to have it for a nice price.
Post by: Que on January 16, 2011, 03:46:40 AM
Apparently my conclusions were not wrong. Now when this link above is clicked the price shown is £71.99 and the box set is announced for the next Monday... I ordered it for £9.08, VAT excl. Anyway, it will take some weeks to know the result of this bet. :)
After ordering and subsequently receiving the single disc with songs and the hassle of returning it, I got tired of the whole thing. But I should have reordered..... :-\
Q
Post by: FideLeo on January 16, 2011, 05:24:07 AM
But I should have reordered..... :-\
Perhaps, considering that a cancellation note in email requires no return whatsoever. ;)
Post by: Que on January 16, 2011, 05:32:49 AM
Perhaps, considering that a cancellation note in email requires no return whatsoever. ;)
Long time no see... :o Welcome back! :)
Q
Post by: Harry on January 16, 2011, 05:51:14 AM
Post by: FideLeo on January 16, 2011, 11:25:17 PM
Long time no see... :o Welcome back! :)
Q
Hi Q
Thanks! :) Hope to visit again soon.
ps. It looks like the 'deal' has fooled quite a few over in France as well.
http://bons-plans-classique.blogspot.com/2011/01/coffret-real-chopin-21-cd-11.html
Post by: scarlattiglenross on January 17, 2011, 04:04:57 AM
This set for $15.90 over at amazon! Already ordered :).
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-J-S-Complete-Organ-Works/dp/B001R3YJS8/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3LUCY0Y6LF6WW&colid=1L61W0MN46OUE
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-A%2BtKTCFL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Finally got a shipping notification for this... there is hope after all.
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 17, 2011, 04:10:54 AM
Finally got a shipping notification for this... there is hope after all.It's now down to $13.17!! Though out of stock...
Post by: scarlattiglenross on January 17, 2011, 04:22:20 AM
Post by: Coopmv on January 18, 2011, 04:12:41 PM
Aren't you proud/overjoyed that Elgar is valued more? ;)
Only Elgarian cares about if Elgar is more highly valued ... ;D
Post by: rubio on January 18, 2011, 10:34:19 PM
Finally got a shipping notification for this... there is hope after all.
I received it yesterday 8).
Post by: Opus106 on January 18, 2011, 10:42:33 PM
I received it yesterday 8).
And I, on the 13th. :) The shipping notification, that is.
Post by: The new erato on January 19, 2011, 01:25:07 AM
Finally got a shipping notification for this... there is hope after all.I got my shipping confirmation the 28th December, and received it yesterday. As rubio, another Norwegian, did. A grand total of 140 NOK incl P&P, equal to around $24 or £15. The shipping was about half the cost.
Post by: scarlattiglenross on January 19, 2011, 03:51:06 AM
I got my shipping confirmation the 28th December, and received it yesterday. As rubio, another Norwegian, did. A grand total of 140 NOK incl P&P, equal to around $24 or £15. The shipping was about half the cost.
Don't NOK it 'til you've tried it.
Post by: listener on January 19, 2011, 03:34:51 PM
BACH ORGAN WORKS KOOPMANGone up to $13.37! Still not in stock though. 1/7th the price of the Canadian souce.
It's now down to $13.17!! Though out of stock...
Post by: Antoine Marchand on January 22, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
Apparently my conclusions were not wrong. Now when this link above is clicked the price shown is £71.99 and the box set is announced for the next Monday... I ordered it for £9.08, VAT excl. Anyway, it will take some weeks to know the result of this bet. :)
The story continues... Another policial story, better than the story of Vernet's set. :)
Today I found this review on Amazon UK, regarding the "Real Chopin" set that I purchased for £9.08, VAT excl., and now tagged £71.99:
Quote
1.0 out of 5 stars Buyer beware!, 19 Jan 2011
By
Baron Scarpia - See all my reviews
This review is from: The Real Chopin (Audio CD)
This is a warning to those tempted by the offer of a 21 disc boxed set of The Real Chopin. This is misadvertised by Amazon; the actual item is a single disc of the complete Chopin songs, still from the Chopin Institute (NIFC) but not the 21 disc boxed set. I hope/ trust that Amazon will revise their product information (and price!) accordingly.
One star is for Amazon's info, not the quality of the disc, btw.
You may believe what you want, but this review sounds very strange.
A guy who paid £71.99 for a single disc and even take some time to clarify: "One star is for Amazon's info, not the quality of the disc, btw". In fact when this guy wrote his "review" the set had been tagged £71.99 during several weeks.
Additionally, how this guy has this info if the set or disc has never been available since it was announced.
And the nickname of the reviewer! My God! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: FideLeo on January 23, 2011, 09:15:15 PM
The story continues...
Yes. The price has been changed back to £12.99 (with VAT obviously) today. No other change is made, but no more 'mispricing'. Makes me wonder what they will eventually deliver to the hundreds of people who pre-ordered. >:D
Post by: Que on January 23, 2011, 11:18:45 PM
Yes. The price has been changed back to £12.99 (with VAT obviously) today. No other change is made, but no more 'mispricing'. Makes me wonder what they will eventually deliver to the hundreds of people who pre-ordered. >:D
Interesting, maybe I have another go! ;D
With Amazon proper that is. I sent a email to a marketplace seller that offered at 40 pounds, asking if the offer was correct. Could have well been, for that price. But he replied that he would check, and subsequnetely withdrew his offer... ::)
Q
Post by: FideLeo on January 23, 2011, 11:23:32 PM
Interesting, maybe I have another go! ;D
With Amazon proper that is. I sent a email to a marketplace seller that offered at 40 pounds, asking if the offer was correct. Could have well been, for that price. But he replied that he would check, and subsequnetely withdrew his offer... ::)
Q
By all means. The more the merrier. ;)
Post by: minimal music on January 24, 2011, 05:03:11 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Piesni-Songs-Kurzak-Kwiecien-Goerner/dp/B00383YC1Y/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1295917231&sr=1-4
Post by: Scarpia on January 25, 2011, 07:59:45 AM
Also, two volumes of Angela Hewitt's Beethoven cycle are there. There has to be something strange going on when discs containing the "Pathetique" and "Appasionata" sonatas are the worst selling discs in a record companies catalog. (Makes me feel I need to have them. :-[)
Post by: minamazzini on January 25, 2011, 01:23:13 PM
Amazon kept to their price after all, and it's still there for £12.77 today...so tempting to buy another only I couldn't think of anyone to give it to :(
Jordi Savall box from Virgin on Amazon seems good value - 8 cds for £9.99 España Antigua...somehow it found it's way into my basket... ;D
Hope all who hoped to got their Chopin Box too today :)
Post by: Opus106 on January 25, 2011, 10:31:44 PM
so tempting to buy another only I couldn't think of anyone to give it to :(
Hi! I believe we haven't met before... :)
:D
Post by: minamazzini on January 26, 2011, 04:31:21 AM
it's only my third post...I was getting anxious about the Real Chopin Box set and found this forum which set my mind at rest, well, nearly at rest! It's great having all these people discussing things I'm interested in... :) A very happy state of affairs. I'm sure there was a bit of the site to introduce myself and I must go back and find it...
Post by: FideLeo on January 26, 2011, 05:17:04 AM
...I was getting anxious about the Real Chopin Box set...
Anxiety is over: price back to £71.99 for that one, too, at Amazon uk. :(
Post by: Lethevich on January 26, 2011, 07:27:18 AM
Post by: Orpheus on January 26, 2011, 08:51:07 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sViGUXCNL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
look here
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B000MG1YGQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1296060330&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B000MG1YGQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1296060330&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: MishaK on January 26, 2011, 09:04:23 AM
Post by: Orpheus on January 26, 2011, 09:11:56 AM
Now reissued in cardboard sans booklet, at $35 this magnificent reference cycle is a real bargain:
Better at € 21,99... 8)
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B0042U2HLY/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1296061859&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B0042U2HLY/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1296061859&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Post by: Mirror Image on January 26, 2011, 09:21:50 AM
Now reissued in cardboard sans booklet, at $35 this magnificent reference cycle is a real bargain:
I actually prefer the older set where there are individual jewel cases with their own inserts. I only paid $30 for mine two years ago.
Post by: Coopmv on January 26, 2011, 06:53:56 PM
I actually prefer the older set where there are individual jewel cases with their own inserts. I only paid $30 for mine two years ago.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H9ikmzBSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
This set came with individual jewel cases with their own inserts. The last 2 symphonies came in a twofer jewel case though.
Post by: Que on January 26, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
Anxiety is over: price back to £71.99 for that one, too, at Amazon uk. :(
I must have re-ordered that "real Chopin" box just in time yesterday! ;D And it seems that my chances of actually getting it after all, are increasing. 8)
Q
Post by: canninator on January 27, 2011, 01:03:45 AM
I must have re-ordered that "real Chopin" box just in time yesterday! ;D And it seems that my chances of actually getting it after all, are increasing. 8)
Q
I pre-ordered mine in Dec after an order with amazon.de fell through. Arrived yesterday, 21 CDs as advertised and I'm loving it, baby.
Post by: FideLeo on January 27, 2011, 09:21:48 AM
And it seems that my chances of actually getting it after all, are increasing. 8)
They'd better be :). I have gifts for several people all lined up waiting in that queue! ;)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on January 27, 2011, 09:28:49 AM
I must have re-ordered that "real Chopin" box just in time yesterday! ;D And it seems that my chances of actually getting it after all, are increasing. 8)
Apparently, you will have a debt of gratitude with me, Mr. Q. 8)
Anyway, I won´t accept any liability if you only receive a nice disc of songs. ;D
Post by: Orpheus on January 29, 2011, 08:25:11 AM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0028948030460.jpg)
look here!
(http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Giuseppe-Verdi-S%E4mtliche-Werke/hnum/9615695)
Post by: Lethevich on January 29, 2011, 01:42:14 PM
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Giuseppe-Verdi-S%E4mtliche-Werke/hnum/9615695
Thanks for pointing it out!
Post by: The new erato on January 29, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
this set could be an amazing seal.
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/japansealAP_450x480.jpg)
Post by: Lethevich on January 29, 2011, 02:12:55 PM
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 29, 2011, 02:38:40 PM
At almost 1 Euro per CD, and presumably without a single dud (if the early works came from Philips' series), this set could be an amazing seal.It looks to me like a Dr J and Mr H type set. Some of the early works are fantastic and well recorded with Gardelli. But many (not all) of the most well known are not first choices. Some of them are on the old side too. But it may be that there are enough great works to still make this worth it (with a few to be complemented with other sets).
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Giuseppe-Verdi-S%E4mtliche-Werke/hnum/9615695
Thanks for pointing it out!
Post by: FideLeo on January 29, 2011, 03:33:47 PM
For some reason he reminds me of Falstaff with a bad hangover.
In this case, sake-drinking (in bath) has just started! :)
Post by: Scarpia on January 30, 2011, 10:09:47 AM
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/CDS44501-98.jpg)
But that is based on the assumption that every note Liszt wrote is worth listening to, I suppose.
Post by: Orpheus on January 30, 2011, 12:30:49 PM
99 cds for £136 (excluding VAT) at mdt. That's borderline super-bargain.
(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/CDS44501-98.jpg)
But that is based on the assumption that every note Liszt wrote is worth listening to, I suppose.
I'd like to find a better offer... ::)
Post by: Scarpia on January 30, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
I'd like to find a better offer... ::)If you buy it from Hyperion's web site it is £260, so mdt is offering a steep discount. However it is more Liszt than I will ever need to hear so I am not in the market unless there is a truly stunning discount.
Post by: Coopmv on January 30, 2011, 01:06:04 PM
I'd like to find a better offer... ::)
I just placed my last order with Presto Classical last week and that will be it for a while or until my past orders placed just a week before Christmas start to arrive. I have no clue what those incompetent at the homeland security have been doing to all the trans-Atlantic packages from the UK. Packages sent by the Royal Airmail used to take at most 10 days.
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 30, 2011, 01:36:00 PM
I just placed my last order with Presto Classical last week and that will be it for a while or until my past orders placed just a week before Christmas start to arrive. I have no clue what those incompetent at the homeland security have been doing to all the trans-Atlantic packages from the UK. Packages sent by the Royal Airmail used to take at most 10 days.Well, on top of that there has been several feet of snow on the east coast - every few days another storm. Add holidays in and you have a general mess. On the other hand, I received an order that I'd made in mid-December just this past week, so yours will probably make it to you - eventually!
Post by: Bulldog on January 30, 2011, 01:49:59 PM
I'd like to find a better offer... ::)
A better pianist than Howard wouldn't be a bad move either.
Post by: Coopmv on January 30, 2011, 05:50:21 PM
Well, on top of that there has been several feet of snow on the east coast - every few days another storm. Add holidays in and you have a general mess. On the other hand, I received an order that I'd made in mid-December just this past week, so yours will probably make it to you - eventually!
Weather alone cannot explain such delay - 4 weeks and counting. How many days does it usually take for airmail to arrive from the UK?
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 30, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
Weather alone cannot explain such delay - 4 weeks and counting. How many days does it usually take for airmail to arrive from the UK?Well - I think the weather could have played a role. First there was the UK storm. If your order didn't get out ahead of this, I doubt it made it until at least after Christmas. THe following week there was a storm in the US, so the liklihood that your disc got out in December is close to nil. So then we are talking January 3 and it is likely still in the UK!!!! The eastern US was then hit by several storms over the next few weeks. SO service was still getting back to normal, when it was regularly hit by new delays. For example, the week of MLK holday, Monday was a day off and there were two storms that week. SO even if it got the US, if it was stuck in an eastern state (or southern state - they were hit really hard too at one point), it may been stalled even more. Anyway, I'm not trying to defend anyone (you want your discs gosh darnit! >:D), but just show that the weather really could have played a big role.
Post by: PaulSC on January 30, 2011, 11:56:11 PM
Well - I think the weather could have played a role. First there was the UK storm. If your order didn't get out ahead of this, I doubt it made it until at least after Christmas. THe following week there was a storm in the US, so the liklihood that your disc got out in December is close to nil. So then we are talking January 3 and it is likely still in the UK!!!! The eastern US was then hit by several storms over the next few weeks. SO service was still getting back to normal, when it was regularly hit by new delays. For example, the week of MLK holday, Monday was a day off and there were two storms that week. SO even if it got the US, if it was stuck in an eastern state (or southern state - they were hit really hard too at one point), it may been stalled even more. Anyway, I'm not trying to defend anyone (you want your discs gosh darnit! >:D), but just show that the weather really could have played a big role.Translation: Your CDs have been delayed by the flapping of a butterfly's wings. >:D
Post by: Leon on January 31, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
$14.95 for 16 discs.
Post by: Scarpia on January 31, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
$14.95 for 16 discs.
And I thought I had a great deal when I paid twice that some months ago. :o
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 31, 2011, 02:45:04 PM
Post by: Harry on February 01, 2011, 12:09:30 AM
Abeille Musique Just thought I would mention that they have increased some of the discounts on SOME of the discs (Supraphon and Decapo, for example). In some cases the current price is only slight more (or just about) the same price I paid without VAT. I don't know how long the sale goes, but this may be of interest.
Did the Supraphon, will look at Da Capo ;D
Post by: Scarpia on February 05, 2011, 09:17:08 AM
For those that have this set on their radar, one more data point with respect to price. www.abeillemusique.com has it for about 145 Euros, and shipping to the US is only 8 Euros or so, which makes the the best deal I've found so far.
Post by: Brian on February 05, 2011, 09:29:30 AM
*which, if you see as a super-duper bargain, you should post forthwith please :)
Post by: Scarpia on February 05, 2011, 09:31:28 AM
It's still all Liszt, though. :( If somebody donated me 145 euros, I'd probably get the Bernstein Symphony Edition* or buy as many ZigZag/Harmonia Mundi CDs as possible.
*which, if you see as a super-duper bargain, you should post forthwith please :)
If someone gave me the Bernstein symphony edition I'd give it to my wife. She uses discarded CDs to scare birds away from the tomato plants. ;D
Seriously, if you buy 100 CDs of Liszt from the well known pianists you get at least 10 versions each of the same 10 CDs of music. I'm curious to know what the rest of it is like. I like to decide for myself what bits I like.
Post by: Brian on February 05, 2011, 09:42:17 AM
If someone gave me the Bernstein symphony edition I'd give it to my wife. She uses discarded CDs to scare birds away from the tomato plants. ;D
Seriously, if you buy 100 CDs of Liszt from the well known pianists you get at least 10 versions each of the same 10 CDs of music. I'm curious to know what the rest of it is like. I like to decide for myself what bits I like.
Well tell you what, if somebody gives you the Bernstein and somebody gives me the Liszt, let's trade. ;)
At any rate your odds of a happy ending are better than mine: the BSE seems to already be vanishing completely from online shops. The Amazons are already at marketplace-only, ArkivMusic is clearing it out, and MDT, Presto, Europa, CD Universe, and JPC don't carry it or are permanently out of stock.
Post by: Scarpia on February 05, 2011, 09:50:17 AM
At any rate your odds of a happy ending are better than mine: the BSE seems to already be vanishing completely from online shops. The Amazons are already at marketplace-only, ArkivMusic is clearing it out, and MDT, Presto, Europa, CD Universe, and JPC don't carry it or are permanently out of stock.
Is that a Sony or DG edition?
Post by: Opus106 on February 05, 2011, 09:51:25 AM
Bernstein Symphony Edition*
*which, if you see as a super-duper bargain, you should post forthwith please :)
What's your limit on SD(C)B? :)
Post by: Coopmv on February 05, 2011, 09:58:40 AM
It's still all Liszt, though. :(
It is sad but true. 99 CD's of Liszt music are a bit much for me ...
Post by: Scarpia on February 05, 2011, 10:05:33 AM
It is sad but true. 99 CD's of Liszt music are a bit much for me ...
Exactly, what you need is another 99 recordings of the Brandenburg Concertos...
Post by: The new erato on February 05, 2011, 10:12:42 AM
Exactly, what you need is another 99 recordings of the Brandenburg Concertos...Slightly too much for me as well, even though I don't think I have more than 5-7 recordings of any given work - and that I tend towards buying recordings of music I don't know rather than another recording of music I know well. Some of Liszt's music is very impressive, but for every impressive work I've heard, I've heard at least one superficial, virtuosic potboiler, and I fear those will dominate the further one ventures into the unknown realms documented in this set.....
Post by: Scarpia on February 05, 2011, 10:22:16 AM
Some of Liszt's music is very impressive, but for every impressive work I've heard, I've heard at least one superficial, virtuosic potboiler, and I fear those will dominate the further one ventures into the unknown realms documented in this set.....
That is an assumption. How else can one find out? My curiosity got the better of me.
Post by: Brian on February 05, 2011, 10:24:29 AM
What's your limit on SD(C)B? :)
Well I thought I was going to wait until August and then pick up a copy when I went back to the USA to a PhD program. Bring it along to the apartment as a self-housewarming-present. But it's so rare already that if I wait until August I might have to pay $200.
So let's say <$100.
Post by: Brian on February 05, 2011, 10:25:17 AM
That is an assumption. How else can one find out? My curiosity got the better of me.
Well at a minimum I will be curious about the results. Maybe start a thread, or post your findings in the Liszt's Lair or whatever it's called?
Post by: The new erato on February 05, 2011, 10:27:02 AM
That is an assumption. How else can one find out? My curiosity got the better of me.Well yes, of course that's one of the attractions of buying classical music. But the satisfaction of curiosity in this case comes with a hefty pricetag - and (what's more important) the sacrifice of lots of time - there's lots of music I feel is a safer bet to explore. Eg the 60 disc BIS Sibelius edition, etc etc....
Post by: Coopmv on February 05, 2011, 10:40:08 AM
Well I thought I was going to wait until August and then pick up a copy when I went back to the USA to a PhD program. Bring it along to the apartment as a self-housewarming-present. But it's so rare already that if I wait until August I might have to pay $200.
So let's say <$100.
Only time will tell. If the Euro collapses, then the dollar may enjoy some unexpected strength and thereby purchasing power ... ;)
Post by: Scarpia on February 05, 2011, 10:48:14 AM
Well yes, of course that's one of the attractions of buying classical music. But the satisfaction of curiosity in this case comes with a hefty pricetag - and (what's more important) the sacrifice of lots of time - there's lots of music I feel is a safer bet to explore. Eg the 60 disc BIS Sibelius edition, etc etc....
That 60 cd BIS Sibelius edition would cost me $600, rather than $200 (street price in the US) and most of the stuff in there that I don't already have in in genres which I don't generally listen to, like choral music, voice and piano, violin and piano (I have a ton of Sibelius on the shelves). I am tempted by the Chamber music volumes, though.
Post by: Orpheus on February 08, 2011, 11:04:22 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31AaOMzvE7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Emil-Gilels-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297191333&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Emil-Gilels-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297191333&sr=8-1)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: PaulSC on February 08, 2011, 11:21:39 AM
Some of Liszt's music is very impressive, but for every impressive work I've heard, I've heard at least one superficial, virtuosic potboiler, and I fear those will dominate the further one ventures into the unknown realms documented in this set.....
That is an assumption. How else can one find out?
There is another way. (http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Liszt,_Franz)
Post by: Scarpia on February 08, 2011, 11:28:04 AM
There is another way. (http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Liszt,_Franz)
Besides listening to it?
I can't really think of any Liszt pieces that can be described by the typical criticism of empty pianistic pyrotechnics. What are the examples of this sin?
Post by: PaulSC on February 08, 2011, 12:28:18 PM
Besides listening to it?
I can't really think of any Liszt pieces that can be described by the typical criticism of empty pianistic pyrotechnics. What are the examples of this sin?
Post by: Scarpia on February 08, 2011, 12:48:08 PM
Scarpia, sorry if that was obscure; I posted a link to the (nearly) complete scores online at IMSLP. I've found it to be a great resource for exploring unfamiliar music without blind-buying recordings. There is, I admit, always the possibility that a great performance will turn you on to a seemingly unpromising piece, I admit...
Ok, maybe if I drop a random score of a piece by Liszt in front of you, you will be able to tell if those pages and pages of flowing arpeggios are just "pyrotechnics" or a work of genius like some of the movements in Annes de Pelerinage. And how many hours of pouring over scores will it take to verify that each disc of that set, which costs me $2, is worth my time? Isn't it more pleasant to simply listen to it?
The way I see it, for $2 a day, Liszt is a troubadour providing my evening entertainment. And as has been mentioned above, there are lots of people who are wont to imply that Liszt produced a lot of trashy music without even naming an example.
Post by: Brian on February 08, 2011, 02:05:52 PM
For Gilels fans...
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31AaOMzvE7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Emil-Gilels-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297191333&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Emil-Gilels-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297191333&sr=8-1)
Orpheus ;)
Hmm, I don't need two (!) Beethoven concerto cycles, but I am a Gilels fan, and that's 9 discs for the price of 1...!
Post by: Scarpia on February 08, 2011, 02:14:42 PM
Hmm, I don't need two (!) Beethoven concerto cycles, but I am a Gilels fan, and that's 9 discs for the price of 1...!
That's odd, Cleveland/Szell on EMI. Must have been some sort of deal with Columbia.
Post by: MishaK on February 08, 2011, 03:10:43 PM
That's odd, Cleveland/Szell on EMI. Must have been some sort of deal with Columbia.
He was all over the place. There is a Dvorak Cello Concerto with Fournier/Berlin Phil/Szell on DG.
Post by: Scarpia on February 08, 2011, 03:12:36 PM
He was all over the place. There is a Dvorak Cello Concerto with Fournier/Berlin Phil/Szell on DG.
I have several non-Columbia Szell recordings, but I thought there was an exclusive contract for Szell/Cleveland
Post by: PaulSC on February 08, 2011, 04:01:41 PM
Ok, maybe if I drop a random score of a piece by Liszt in front of you, you will be able to tell if those pages and pages of flowing arpeggios are just "pyrotechnics" or a work of genius like some of the movements in Annes de Pelerinage. And how many hours of pouring over scores will it take to verify that each disc of that set, which costs me $2, is worth my time? Isn't it more pleasant to simply listen to it?
Both are equally pleasant and take equally long.
Post by: Scarpia on February 08, 2011, 04:03:14 PM
Both are equally pleasant and take equally long.
Squinting at my monitor trying to decipher piano scores does not give me as much pleasure as listening to music, but that's me.
Post by: PaulSC on February 08, 2011, 04:13:27 PM
Squinting at my monitor trying to decipher piano scores does not give me as much pleasure as listening to music, but that's me.Indeed.
Post by: Coopmv on February 08, 2011, 07:18:36 PM
For Gilels fans...
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31AaOMzvE7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Emil-Gilels-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297191333&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Emil-Gilels-Icon/dp/B003D0ZNXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297191333&sr=8-1)
Orpheus ;)
A great price even for shipment to the US.
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 09, 2011, 01:08:48 PM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0886973060124.jpg)
Post by: MishaK on February 09, 2011, 01:48:16 PM
This seems like a pretty good deal at EUR 17.99 (5 discs worth of her music): http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Hilary-Hahn-Collection-Sony-Recordings/hnum/7936944 (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Hilary-Hahn-Collection-Sony-Recordings/hnum/7936944)
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0886973060124.jpg)
Absolutely. An extremely worthwhile acquisition by any means even for multiples of that price. I own these in their individual incarnations. The Bach and Beethoven are absolutely superlative. Hahn is the queen of doublestops, and her Bach, recorded at age 16, is still a marvel of pure natural musicianship. Bach's polyphony just comes alive and hovers in the room. The Beethoven is just gorgeous, with possibly the most dance inducing finale on record. Benefits from Zinman's thoughtful accompaniment. Bernstein and Meyer lack any serious competition anyway. The Mendelssohn is a brisk, fleet, controlled sort of Sturm-und-Drang take on the familiar warhorse. The Shosty may be too controlled and analytical for some, but I think the work benefits from having the ideological and cultural baggage essentially thrown out the window. At least it's a valid alternative interpretation. The Brahms is gorgeous if not quite as magesterial as Milstein/Fistoulari, Ferras/Schuricht or Oistrakh/Klemp. The Stravinsky is wonderfully incisive and precise on Hahn's part, but Marriner/ASMIF aren't perhaps the ideal accompanists.
Post by: Scarpia on February 09, 2011, 01:50:06 PM
Absolutely. An extremely worthwhile acquisition by any means even for multiples of that price. I own these in their individual incarnations. The Bach and Beethoven are absolutely superlative. Hahn is the queen of doublestops, and her Bach, recorded at age 16, is still a marvel of pure natural musicianship. Bach's polyphony just comes alive and hovers in the room. The Beethoven is just gorgeous, with possibly the most dance inducing finale on record. Benefits from Zinman's thoughtful accompaniment. Bernstein and Meyer lack any serious competition anyway. The Mendelssohn is a brisk, fleet, controlled sort of Sturm-und-Drang take on the familiar warhorse. The Shosty may be too controlled and analytical for some, but I think the work benefits from having the ideological and cultural baggage essentially thrown out the window. At least it's a valid alternative interpretation. The Brahms is gorgeous if not quite as magesterial as Milstein/Fistoulari, Ferras/Schuricht or Oistrakh/Klemp. The Stravinsky is wonderfully incisive and precise on Hahn's part, but Marriner/ASMIF aren't perhaps the ideal accompanists.
Marriner is a deal killer for me. But the other discs sound interesting.
Post by: MishaK on February 09, 2011, 02:06:03 PM
Marriner is a deal killer for me. But the other discs sound interesting.
I know what you mean. But I happened to have heard Hahn live with Marriner/ASMIF in the Stravinsky in Cologne around the time the disc came out. The orchestra sounded completely different when she was onstage. It was as if you had completely replaced the entire personnel. I have never seen such a schizophrenic performance in my life. The Stravinsky was so alive, vivacious, incisive and just a joy to listen to. Then ASMIF and Marriner phoned in a completely superfluous performance of Beethoven 2 in the second half. Go figure. Really, you should think of this disc as Hahn leading the ASMIF with Marriner in a purely decorative function for most of the time.
Post by: DavidRoss on February 09, 2011, 02:12:03 PM
Post by: Scarpia on February 09, 2011, 05:49:13 PM
I'll second Mensch--a killer deal. It's all good, effortlessly gorgeous, and the only knock on the Bach is that it's not complete (partitas #2 & 3, sonata #3).
Well, not a killer deal in the US, in any case, jpc shipping on a single item ain't cheap.
Just got my shipping notice on this baby.
(http://www.abeillemusique.com/images/references/cds4450198.jpg)
http://www.abeillemusique.com/
$209, including shipping to the US, for 99 CDs. That's borderline super-bargain. The price has been inching down on amazon.com, but still well above that. I'm curious if I'll get hit with some mysterious import duty when it arrives.
Post by: Brian on February 10, 2011, 04:34:07 AM
I'm curious if I'll get hit with some mysterious import duty when it arrives.
Well, last year when I lived in Texas and ordered the complete works of Brahms, Rachmaninov, and the 100 CD set of "Russian Legends" from Abeille, I didn't get hit with any duties...
Post by: Orpheus on February 10, 2011, 12:05:19 PM
(http://www.abeillemusique.com/images/references/cds4450198.jpg)
Orpheus felix :P
Post by: Lethevich on February 10, 2011, 12:11:34 PM
Post by: Coopmv on February 10, 2011, 06:16:34 PM
Well, last year when I lived in Texas and ordered the complete works of Brahms, Rachmaninov, and the 100 CD set of "Russian Legends" from Abeille, I didn't get hit with any duties...
I wonder if $400 is the limit ...
Post by: Orpheus on February 11, 2011, 09:29:56 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lm5IfhB5L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004G7FFF8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004G7FFF8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Scarpia on February 11, 2011, 10:34:49 AM
Drop down!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lm5IfhB5L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004G7FFF8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004G7FFF8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Damn! FabulousCD is the Amazon Marketplace alias of www.abeillemusique.com, the same place I ordered my set. Would have saved about $25 if I had anticipated this one, but in the long run I've just as often missed a bargain as found one by holding out.
Post by: stingo on February 12, 2011, 01:17:03 PM
Post by: Scarpia on February 12, 2011, 01:26:40 PM
On looking at the Liszt set, I found this for $53.99 from the same vendor:
Yes, looking at the FabulousCD "storefront" you will find some other impressive deals, as well as a bunch of things listed at prices that are not a deal at all.
Post by: Coopmv on February 12, 2011, 01:29:22 PM
On looking at the Liszt set, I found this for $53.99 from the same vendor:
50 cents a CD. This is a helluva bargain ...
Post by: Brian on February 12, 2011, 01:37:01 PM
Post by: stingo on February 12, 2011, 02:24:48 PM
I bought that Russian Legends box for 30 euros and I have to say, no matter the price, it's the best CD purchase I made last year. A really astonishing trove of greatness: Richter's Beethoven and Schubert, something like 13 CDs of Gilels, Rostropovich's mesmerizing Weinberg concerto, my favorite Tchaikovsky violin concerto reading ever (Kogan), and untold riches I haven't even begun to listen to yet. It's a gold mine.
I have the Rostropovich set and love it, so I figured the rest of the series would be worth owning. Glad to know I wasn't mistaken.
Post by: stingo on February 16, 2011, 08:34:50 AM
Post by: Opus106 on February 16, 2011, 08:43:20 AM
My order for the Brilliant set was cancelled as the items weren't in stock. Strange they don't handle them like Amazon, keeping orders until new stock arrives.
The super-duper cheap sale at Abeille usually comes with the fine print that the offer is available only until stocks last.
Post by: stingo on February 16, 2011, 10:16:46 AM
Purely out of curiosity, why isn't this thread in the Great Recordings subforum?
Post by: PaulSC on February 16, 2011, 10:24:15 AM
Purely out of curiosity, why isn't this thread in the Great Recordings subforum?Speculation: Because it's less about the intrinsic merit of individual recordings and more about reporting/discussing opportunities to buy a disc, or the offerings of a particular label, or the stock of a particular retailer, at a bargain price (?)
Post by: Orpheus on February 21, 2011, 01:07:17 PM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0028947781837.jpg)
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Johannes-Brahms-Johannes-Brahms-Complete-Edition-DGG/hnum/3537192
Orpheus ;)
Post by: stingo on February 21, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
Post by: Brahmsian on February 21, 2011, 02:06:19 PM
Abeille's running a deal on the Complete Brahms (http://www.abeillemusique.com/CD/Classique/BRIL93554/5028421935546/Brilliant-Classics/Johannes-Brahms/Integrale-de-l-oeuvre/cleart-29328.html) from Brilliant.
It has been that way for well over a year now. It really is a steal, and if you really like Brahms' music and want the whole enchilada, then this is one way to go. The set isn't perfect and has its flaws, but overall it is more than worth the price, even if you enjoyed only 10 discs!
Post by: stingo on February 21, 2011, 02:19:50 PM
It has been that way for well over a year now. It really is a steal, and if you really like Brahms' music and want the whole enchilada, then this is one way to go. The set isn't perfect and has its flaws, but overall it is more than worth the price, even if you enjoyed only 10 discs!
I already have the complete a capella choral music from the same label and it's outstanding, so looking forward to the rest of the set.
Post by: Brahmsian on February 21, 2011, 02:23:00 PM
I already have the complete a capella choral music from the same label and it's outstanding, so looking forward to the rest of the set.
I really love the a capella choir music also. Absolutely gorgeous it is! The chamber music recordings are also high quality.
Post by: Brian on February 21, 2011, 03:13:57 PM
The chamber music recordings are also high quality.
Indeed, surprisingly so. Piano Quintet + Nash Ensemble = great CD!
Post by: Scarpia on February 21, 2011, 03:22:49 PM
Post by: Coopmv on February 21, 2011, 04:33:57 PM
It has been that way for well over a year now. It really is a steal, and if you really like Brahms' music and want the whole enchilada, then this is one way to go. The set isn't perfect and has its flaws, but overall it is more than worth the price, even if you enjoyed only 10 discs!
Ray, Did you end up paying some pretty steep shipping charge for the BC Brahms set? The price on the set is indeed very good ...
Post by: Brian on February 21, 2011, 04:36:44 PM
Ray, Did you end up paying some pretty steep shipping charge for the BC Brahms set? The price on the set is indeed very good ...
I ordered it fully a year ago. The price I got was 20 euros, came out to US $37 with shipping. That's a $10 shipping charge, but $37 for 60 CDs is still an insane deal. This one is probably more like $45ish.
Post by: Scarpia on February 21, 2011, 07:04:07 PM
I ordered it fully a year ago. The price I got was 20 euros, came out to US $37 with shipping. That's a $10 shipping charge, but $37 for 60 CDs is still an insane deal. This one is probably more like $45ish.
I placed an order with them recently (the complete Liszt set) and shipping was about 9 Euros, as I recall. Not cheap, but not totally absurd for shipping across the Atlantic and well worth it considering some of the deals available there.
Post by: stingo on February 25, 2011, 11:28:25 AM
shipped for $56 and change. :)
Post by: Orpheus on February 26, 2011, 04:01:16 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41WADTJY52L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0000041KD/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1298721415&sr=1-2&condition=used :o
Orpheus ;)
Post by: DavidRoss on February 26, 2011, 11:09:50 AM
Post by: Opus106 on February 26, 2011, 11:35:48 AM
OK, I bit! (First CD purchase of 2011--it'll be interesting to see if they send the advertised set!)
What was there to bite? ???
Post by: Scarpia on February 26, 2011, 11:44:08 AM
What was there to bite? ???
Yes, what was the price? I had some interest in that set recently but it was recently OOP and used copies seemed to be stratospheric.
Post by: Orpheus on February 26, 2011, 11:45:58 AM
What was there to bite? ???
$ 4,99...
Post by: Orpheus on February 26, 2011, 11:48:11 AM
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B0000041KD/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1298749627&sr=1-1&condition=used (http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B0000041KD/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1298749627&sr=1-1&condition=used)
Post by: Coopmv on February 26, 2011, 12:00:45 PM
Bachian maniacs must look here!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41WADTJY52L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0000041KD/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1298721415&sr=1-2&condition=used :o
Orpheus ;)
I have the complete works in 5 fatboy cases ...
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 05, 2011, 12:27:25 AM
They have free shipping in the US over $15 (I think that was the limit). Don't know what they charge to Europe.
Post by: MishaK on March 05, 2011, 09:45:02 AM
Deep Discount (US) is having a 50% off selected items sale, which is about 1000 classical discs/sets and such. There are a few weird things like insanely high starting prices for some items, and a couple mis-matches between description and item. But there are also some pretty good deals to be had, especially on EMI (though Eloquence, Apex, and others appear). They had a number of Mahler sets (Bertini ($38?), EMI Mahler set (less than $30), etc), Haitink Ring (under $50), Elgar and Vaughan Williams Collector's Edition ($31-33), Britten CE (~$60ish), the Icon series, EMI operas, Haitink Vaughn Williams Symphonies (under $25), etc. They have a lot of crap to wade through as well, so patience is a virtue. Link is: http://www.deepdiscount.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.browse/_/Spring-Sale-Classical-CDs/categoryID/da789b9f-bd5f-4a62-8f56-24556b5fca6a/ (http://www.deepdiscount.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.browse/_/Spring-Sale-Classical-CDs/categoryID/da789b9f-bd5f-4a62-8f56-24556b5fca6a/)
They have free shipping in the US over $15 (I think that was the limit). Don't know what they charge to Europe.
Not bad. Also Jansons' complete Shosty for $35, Karajan's EMI Beethoven for $15, Klemp/Boimz Beethoven Syms and Concs for $30...
Post by: Scarpia on March 05, 2011, 09:59:33 AM
Post by: scarlattiglenross on March 06, 2011, 01:10:55 PM
Post by: scarlattiglenross on March 08, 2011, 01:21:12 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grigory-Sokolov/dp/B0000CE7E6/
Post by: listener on March 14, 2011, 06:01:44 AM
shipping March 21
Post by: Grazioso on March 14, 2011, 06:10:04 AM
The Maazel SIBELIUS Symphonies at €10.95 - 5 discs at amazon.fr - double that at the US site.
How does that compare to his Vienna cycle?
Post by: Opus106 on March 14, 2011, 06:35:15 AM
The Maazel SIBELIUS Symphonies at €10.95 - 5 discs at amazon.fr - double that at the US site.
shipping March 21
Given the shipping price at Europe Amazons, the sale at Presto (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Sony/88697808332) might be cheaper.
How does that compare to his Vienna cycle?
The two were briefly compared at another thread (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17920.msg494916.html#msg494916).
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on March 15, 2011, 01:56:06 PM
Manze - The Art of the Violin 5cd set (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Andrew-Manze-Art-Violin/dp/B002HNA94U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1300225691&sr=1-1) £7.49p
No nonesense in delivery/dispatch, as its from Harmonia Mundi's own page on Amazon, packed and fulfilled by HM.
Great music making all round.
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on March 15, 2011, 02:33:41 PM
Marvellous stuff from Manze, the Corelli sonatas 2cds, Vivaldi's Prince of Poland concert, Mozart's 3/4/5 concerti & a various works disc featuring Rebel.
Manze - The Art of the Violin 5cd set (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Andrew-Manze-Art-Violin/dp/B002HNA94U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1300225691&sr=1-1) £7.49p
No nonesense in delivery/dispatch, as its from Harmonia Mundi's own page on Amazon, packed and fulfilled by HM.
Great music making all round.
The price has gone up:(
Post by: Brian on March 15, 2011, 02:38:54 PM
The price has gone up:(
Click the UK link, then click Marketplace :)
Post by: KeithW on March 15, 2011, 05:54:13 PM
I came across a new box set, The Furtwangler Legacy - 107 CDs (much of it will be duplicated in collections already) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Legacy-107CD-Wilhelm-Furtwangler-Various/dp/B004JC16LC (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Legacy-107CD-Wilhelm-Furtwangler-Various/dp/B004JC16LC) (priced at GBP166)
I found an eBay seller in Germany who has a supply of these, delivering them post free internationally. List price is US$150, but my offer of $130 was accepted. eBay listing has a very detailed description of the contents.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140523402988&ss#ht_33142wt_1141 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140523402988&ss#ht_33142wt_1141)
Post by: Brahmsian on March 15, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
My first post - many thanks for all the tips and pointers, some of which have led to very enjoyable purchases.
Welcome to GMG, Keith! :)
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on March 16, 2011, 12:34:24 AM
Click the UK link, then click Marketplace :)
Thank you Brian, I have ordered it:)
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on March 16, 2011, 11:29:17 AM
Thank you Brian, I have ordered it:)
A fine set Harry, nicely packaged with a very informative booklet. The Rebel cd is interesting (especially if its new music, as it is/was, to me).
Cheers
Post by: Brahmsian on March 18, 2011, 07:34:33 AM
Post by: Opus106 on March 18, 2011, 07:39:58 AM
Wow, the Levine/MET Wagner Ring from the late 80's is a super price on Amazon Canada. $17.99 Doesn't include the libretto.
The link that could fetch GMG some cash is the following: http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000GYI2U0/?tag=goodmusicguideco-20 The ASIN tag, by default, works only for Amazon US, unless I'm mistaken. :)
Post by: marvinbrown on March 18, 2011, 07:53:33 AM
Wow, the Levine/MET Wagner Ring from the late 80's is a super price on Amazon Canada. $17.99 Doesn't include the libretto.
That price seems to be exclusively reserved for Canadians or those able to buy from Canada. I believe that very special price has to do with promoting the Ring Cycle in Canada. Talk about preferential treatment, DG should be ashamed of themselves for not making this price more................ universal!
(we are one world after all no??)
marvin
Post by: Holden on March 18, 2011, 02:00:41 PM
On looking at the Liszt set, I found this for $53.99 from the same vendor:
I can't believe it but I bought this - fantastic price!
I clicked on the yellow purchase from Amazon tag - will this return some funds to GMG? I hope so.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 18, 2011, 02:51:09 PM
I can't believe it but I bought this - fantastic price!
I clicked on the yellow purchase from Amazon tag - will this return some funds to GMG? I hope so.
Yes it will indeed. Thank you very much. :)
8)
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Now playing:
Academy of St. Cecilia Chorus & Orchestra / Myung-Whun Chung - Bia 538 Op 117 Incidental music to "King Stephan" pt 01 - Overture: Andante con moto - Presto
Post by: Coopmv on March 18, 2011, 05:27:31 PM
Given the shipping price at Europe Amazons, the sale at Presto (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Sony/88697808332) might be cheaper.
The two were briefly compared at another thread (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17920.msg494916.html#msg494916).
This set is on my shopping list. It is about time to get some recordings by the PSO into my collection ...
Post by: stingo on March 18, 2011, 09:13:52 PM
I can't believe it but I bought this - fantastic price!
I clicked on the yellow purchase from Amazon tag - will this return some funds to GMG? I hope so.
That's the function of the Amazon tag, yes? Sadly, I've only got to listen to the first CD in the set (which I thought was fantastic), as I'm to listen to all of the Brahms set I got from Abeille first. (Determining if any more than the 3 discs I've uncovered skip/are defective.)
Post by: knight66 on March 19, 2011, 03:26:34 AM
The link that could fetch GMG some cash is the following: http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000GYI2U0/?tag=goodmusicguideco-20 The ASIN tag, by default, works only for Amazon US, unless I'm mistaken. :)
I have ordered it and with shipping it comes to about £19. I expect there will be import tax and it looks like the postage and tax will exceed the cost of the set, but still be cheap.
Mike
Post by: Orpheus on March 19, 2011, 09:12:33 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Fq108KZhL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B002HNA94K/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1300553031&sr=1-2&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B002HNA94K/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1300553031&sr=1-2&condition=new)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51iggBtd99L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B002HNA94U/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1300554707&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B002HNA94U/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1300554707&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on March 20, 2011, 01:56:25 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Fq108KZhL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Just ordered the Lute set to go with the Manze set I bought last week. Many thanks for the heads up, I don't know much on the Lute set, so will have much to discover. The Manze Violin set was superb. It cost me £8 last week and its halved this week. Still at £8 it was a great bargain.
Now to the Canadian Wagner issue & Levine. What a bargain this appears to be. Its possible UK buyers may get hit with a £20 import bill but I know from experience that if the figure of the purchase is below £15 the Customs guys tend to let these through, at a £15 threshold. Hope it works out well for all dabbling. Seriously thinking about it myself!!
Cheers
Post by: nigeld on March 21, 2011, 08:40:20 AM
Just ordered the Lute set to go with the Manze set I bought last week. Many thanks for the heads up, I don't know much on the Lute set, so will have much to discover. The Manze Violin set was superb. It cost me £8 last week and its halved this week. Still at £8 it was a great bargain.
Cheers
D-ohhhh !!
missed it. £23 now
Post by: Scarpia on March 21, 2011, 09:09:32 AM
Post by: Novi on March 21, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
Found this whilst ordering my Levine Ring on amazon.ca:
(http://www.classictoulouse.com/images/CD/yves-nat.jpg)
I've only heard Nat's Schumann which I enjoy: very exciting, sometimes almost vertiginously so--I remember the second movement of the Fantasie dangerously threatening to fall apart. CDN$16 seems a very reasonable price to try out his Beethoven and whatever else is on here. Sound quality (from the separate Schumann set) was only adequate as I recall though.
http://www.amazon.ca/1930-1956-Comp-Recordings-Yves-Nat/dp/B000BS6Y74/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1300749113&sr=1-1
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on March 22, 2011, 04:01:17 AM
D-ohhhh !!
missed it. £23 now
Make sure to keep checking, because both are now back to £3.99 & £3.49 respectively.
12 noon GMT
;D
Post by: Scarpia on March 22, 2011, 05:42:55 AM
Thanks for all the tips, everyone! :)
Found this whilst ordering my Levine Ring on amazon.ca:
(http://www.classictoulouse.com/images/CD/yves-nat.jpg)
Saw that too. I have his Beethoven cycle. He is far enough in the deep dark past that audio quality becomes an issue for me, otherwise I would have sprung for it.
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on March 22, 2011, 05:56:06 AM
Just ordered the Lute set to go with the Manze set I bought last week. Many thanks for the heads up, I don't know much on the Lute set, so will have much to discover. The Manze Violin set was superb. It cost me £8 last week and its halved this week. Still at £8 it was a great bargain.
Now to the Canadian Wagner issue & Levine. What a bargain this appears to be. Its possible UK buyers may get hit with a £20 import bill but I know from experience that if the figure of the purchase is below £15 the Customs guys tend to let these through, at a £15 threshold. Hope it works out well for all dabbling. Seriously thinking about it myself!!
Cheers
Bought it for 3,99 English pounds ;D The Lute set.
Post by: Brian on March 22, 2011, 01:51:32 PM
Make sure to keep checking, because both are now back to £3.99 & £3.49 respectively.
12 noon GMT
;D
Ordered both of them. With shipping, it came to exactly £10!
Post by: Scarpia on March 22, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
Now to the Canadian Wagner issue & Levine. What a bargain this appears to be. Its possible UK buyers may get hit with a £20 import bill but I know from experience that if the figure of the purchase is below £15 the Customs guys tend to let these through, at a £15 threshold. Hope it works out well for all dabbling. Seriously thinking about it myself!!
Cheers
£20 tariff to import something from Canada to England? Isn't Canada part of the UK, at some level? Buying from the US, I've ordered stuff much more expensive than that from France, Germany and England and never paid a penny in import duty.
Post by: Que on March 22, 2011, 10:44:24 PM
Isn't Canada part of the UK, at some level?
That's a good one! ;D ;D Maybe Canada should join the EU! :)
Quote
Buying from the US, I've ordered stuff much more expensive than that from France, Germany and England and never paid a penny in import duty.
US customs must be pretty slack - at least when duties are concerned! :o No such luck here - Dutch customs will wrinch every penny out of you, but small packages are fortunately exempted.
Q
Post by: Antoine Marchand on March 23, 2011, 12:26:59 AM
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/8711801102979.jpg)
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-S%E4mtliche-Klavierkonzerte/hnum/4966121
EUR 27.99
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on March 23, 2011, 12:50:41 AM
£20 tariff to import something from Canada to England? Isn't Canada part of the UK, at some level? Buying from the US, I've ordered stuff much more expensive than that from France, Germany and England and never paid a penny in import duty.
I have found out that with the UK you either get lucky or extremely unlucky with Customs Import Tax. I have a good friend in Brazil who often sends cds over to me, if he fills his declaration in at £15 or under, they get through, unopened and cleared. On the occation he makes an error and puts £20, £30 etc as the declared value of goods then they get opened, and passed to the Royal Mail lock up in Liverpool who then mail you a nice letter saying "we are holding this, that and the other for you, if you would like to collect them please pay £20 Customs fee to claim your items, if we do not hear from you within 20 days they will be returned to sender...we will deliver at your expense of an extra cost of £5.99 courier delivery". £26, because my friend put the declared value of his sendings at over £15!!
I wouldn't mind but many were from his collection and as gifts....
You can get away with Customs duty if you also tick the "Gift" box too...but of course businesses such as Amazon.wherever can't declare as gift.
Since our last debacle, we keep it under £15 even if the value is more, and always tick Gift. That's to and from Brazil/England.
Or it could all be just random pickings, surely they don't pull everyone's buys?
:D
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 23, 2011, 12:53:20 AM
I have found out that with the UK you either get lucky or extremely unlucky with Customs Import Tax. I have a good friend in Brazil who often sends cds over to me, if he fills his declaration in at £15 or under, they get through, unopened and cleared. On the occation he makes an error and puts £20, £30 etc as the declared value of goods then they get opened, and passed to the Royal Mail lock up in Liverpool who then mail you a nice letter saying "we are holding this, that and the other for you, if you would like to collect them please pay £20 Customs fee to claim your items, if we do not hear from you within 20 days they will be returned to sender...we will deliver at your expense of an extra cost of £5.99 courier delivery". £26, because my friend put the declared value of his sendings at over £15!!I read somewhere that they may be changing this (n the UK) - and not for the better. But I cannot quite remember where I read it. Just a heads up...
I wouldn't mind but many were from his collection and as gifts....
You can get away with Customs duty if you also tick the "Gift" box too...but of course businesses such as Amazon.wherever can't declare as gift.
Since our last debacle, we keep it under £15 even if the value is more, and always tick Gift. That's to and from Brazil/England.
Or it could all be just random pickings, surely they don't pull everyone's buys?
:D
EDIT: US seems to have totally different restrictions/rules and have a huge book for virtually any item. The customs site says: "Note: Most personal shipments worth up to $200, and gift packages worth up to $100, will pass duty-free as long as the recipient does not receive multiple packages in a single day whose cumulative value is more than these amounts."
Post by: scarlattiglenross on March 23, 2011, 02:02:52 AM
As I bought most of these discs full price back in the day, this represents a super-duper cheap bargain to me in 2011:
http://www.amazon.de/Ligeti-Various-Artists/dp/B00303WQMO/ (currently €22.99 from Amazon themselves)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CcP1fJwtL._SS400_.jpg)
Post by: Opus106 on March 23, 2011, 06:53:49 AM
I don't know if this classifies as a super-duper cheap bargain (this explanation is for you Opus ;D), but I doubt the price of this set will be some day inferior to EUR 28:
You say 28, I see it as 52. :(
Post by: Scarpia on March 23, 2011, 06:58:33 AM
That's a good one! ;D ;D Maybe Canada should join the EU! :)
All I know is the Queen of England's picture is on their money, either some association lingers or somebody at the mint has a fetish for old ladies. :-\
Post by: Brahmsian on March 23, 2011, 07:01:11 AM
All I know is the Queen of England picture is on their money, either some association lingers or somebody at the mint has a fetish for old ladies. :-\
Yes, Canada is still part of the Commonwealth, unfortunately. :( If they ever had a nation wide referendum vote on it, which Canadians have been asking for, I'm pretty sure a high majority would vote to be removed from the Commonwealth.
Post by: nigeld on March 23, 2011, 08:43:09 AM
Make sure to keep checking, because both are now back to £3.99 & £3.49 respectively.
12 noon GMT
;D
I could kiss you !! :D :D
£7.98 poorer, 6 new disks richer (4 already owned).
Post by: stingo on March 23, 2011, 08:53:10 AM
Post by: Scarpia on March 23, 2011, 09:11:51 AM
Regarding the Ligeti edition - the best (and only) price from amazon.com is $83.60 from a marketplace seller. What does shipping from amazon.de to the US cost?
A lot. Just put it in your shopping cart and pretend to order and it will tell you. If you have an amazon.com account you automatically have an amazon.de account. Amazon.co.uk ships to the US very reasonably, though.
Post by: Opus106 on March 23, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
A lot. Just put it in your shopping cart and pretend to order and it will tell you.
The last time I saw, they had a chart with the necessary info.
Post by: knight66 on March 23, 2011, 10:15:20 AM
I have ordered it and with shipping it comes to about £19. I expect there will be import tax and it looks like the postage and tax will exceed the cost of the set, but still be cheap.
Mike
Ordeded on the 18th March, it arived today! No interference from Customs. 14 Cds for £19.
Mike
Post by: stingo on March 23, 2011, 12:29:25 PM
A lot. Just put it in your shopping cart and pretend to order and it will tell you. If you have an amazon.com account you automatically have an amazon.de account. Amazon.co.uk ships to the US very reasonably, though.
Thanks - it came out to just over $49 USD shipped.
But I have to say it's dangerous now knowing I can get deals from the international amazon sites too.
Post by: Scarpia on March 23, 2011, 12:32:55 PM
Thanks - it came out to just over $49 USD shipped.
But I have to say it's dangerous now knowing I can get deals from the international amazon sites too.
From any site in Germany shipping is at least 10 Euros, but amazon.co.uk ships to the US for three pounds. It is worth the effort to check amazon.co.uk before ordering anything major from amazon.com. I got complete Richter on EMI (one of those icon boxes) for something like 6 pound plus shipping.
Post by: stingo on March 23, 2011, 12:39:32 PM
From any site in Germany shipping is at least 10 Euros, but amazon.co.uk ships to the US for three pounds. It is worth the effort to check amazon.co.uk before ordering anything major from amazon.com. I got complete Richter on EMI (one of those icon boxes) for something like 6 pound plus shipping.
Good to know. I picked up the O'Dette and Manze Art sets for a grand total of $23.09 USD. :)
Post by: DavidRoss on March 23, 2011, 12:50:35 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vaughan-Williams-London-Philharmonic-Orchestra/dp/B00006J3LP/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1300913314&sr=1-3
Post by: Lethevich on March 23, 2011, 01:12:42 PM
It's genial interpretation, and I suppose this disappoints some, but it's vital, and the numer of "bonuses" included is exceptionally generous.
Post by: stingo on March 23, 2011, 01:30:31 PM
Post by: nigeld on March 24, 2011, 03:31:28 AM
It is perhaps worth a mention that the symphonies (but not some of the other works) are included in the 30 disc "collector's edition" box. But Handley is by a hair my favourite RVW conductor, and the incarnation you link comes with most of his (non duplicate) RVW recordings excluding a Lark Ascending and piano concerto (both available on other EMI budget discs coupled with Delius) and I will continue to gently harass people into hearing these recordings :)
It's genial interpretation, and I suppose this disappoints some, but it's vital, and the numer of "bonuses" included is exceptionally generous.
thanks Lethe and David, just bought the RVW box.
Is this the piano concerto disk you were recommending? If so, only £3.49 at Amazon
Post by: Lethevich on March 24, 2011, 09:25:43 AM
Is this the piano concerto disk you were recommending?
Indeed, it's great stuff. The Naxos disc will be similarly priced, but I feel that its extras aren't as strong - the Delius is a very fine concerto.
Post by: gilfachphil on March 24, 2011, 10:47:37 AM
I've had this in my Amazon Wish List for a while since seing it reviewed in IRR early in 2010. It appeared for £1-49 yesterday so is now on the way.
'Antico/Moderno - Instrumental Versions of Renaissance Madrigals (Skip Sempe/Capriccio Stravagante)'
Post by: listener on March 24, 2011, 11:07:41 AM
"We wanted to let you know that wholesale increases will soon bump the price of Naxos CDs higher. But if you order now, you can beat the increase. Order by Noon EST on Monday April 4th and you'll just pay $6.99 for single CDs. After the 4th, our regular price for a single Naxos CD will likely rise to $9.99."
...probably will apply to other merchants as well.
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 24, 2011, 11:11:25 AM
A note from H&B re Naxos:I saw that too, but Arkiv are 5 for $30, so that is a better deal for most I would think and it lasts longer too (says the 18th).
"We wanted to let you know that wholesale increases will soon bump the price of Naxos CDs higher. But if you order now, you can beat the increase. Order by Noon EST on Monday April 4th and you'll just pay $6.99 for single CDs. After the 4th, our regular price for a single Naxos CD will likely rise to $9.99."
...probably will apply to other merchants as well.
Post by: Coopmv on March 24, 2011, 11:15:23 AM
A note from H&B re Naxos:
"We wanted to let you know that wholesale increases will soon bump the price of Naxos CDs higher. But if you order now, you can beat the increase. Order by Noon EST on Monday April 4th and you'll just pay $6.99 for single CDs. After the 4th, our regular price for a single Naxos CD will likely rise to $9.99."
...probably will apply to other merchants as well.
It will be interesting to see what the other classical labels will do ... ::)
Post by: Holden on March 24, 2011, 01:25:48 PM
I also got the Russian Legends ......recently. Will take a while to get thro' the Russians box.
How long did it take from ordering to delivery? I ordered mine on the 18th and being standard shipping there is no tracking information. It does have to come to Australia.
Post by: Brian on March 24, 2011, 04:35:47 PM
Ordered both of them. With shipping, it came to exactly £10!
Wow, I placed my order on March 22 and the CDs arrived on March 24. Amazing (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Themes/default/images/post/exclamation.gif)
Post by: Coopmv on March 26, 2011, 07:40:18 AM
Wow, I placed my order on March 22 and the CDs arrived on March 24. Amazing (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Themes/default/images/post/exclamation.gif)
Speaking of Express Royal Post ... ;D
Post by: The new erato on March 28, 2011, 07:31:47 AM
Contents are:
1 Bach The Works For Lute In Original Keys And Tunings -Lutz Kirchhof
2 Bach The Works For Lute In Original Keys And Tunings -Lutz Kirchhof
3 Bach 3 Gambensonaten / Sonate A-Dur -Anner Bylsma / Bob Van Asperen
4 The Harpsichord In The Netherlands -Bob Van Asperen
5 Bach Secular Cantatas Bwv 206 & 207A -Frieder Bernius
6 Mozart Missa Longa -Philipp Cieslewicz / Carsten Muller / Tolzer Knabenchor
7 Mozart Divertimento K.334 & K.247 -L'Archibudelli
8 Mozart Divertimento K.563 -L'Archibudelli
9 Schubert Stteichquintett D.956 - Vera Beth / Lisa Rautenberg / Steven Dann / Judy Gatwood / Anner Bylsma
10 Schubert Symphonies Nos. 5 & 6 -Bruno Weil
11 Schuts Psalmen Davis Swv 22-47 -Frieder Bernius
12 Schuts Psalmen Davis Swv 22-47 -Frieder Bernius
13 Bach 6 Suites For Cello, Bwv 1007-1012 -Anner Bylsma
14 Bach 6 Suites For Cello, Bwv 1007-1012 -Anner Bylsma
15 Italia Mia -Paul Van Nevel / Huelgas Ensemble
16 The Flute In Dance And Dream -Lutz Kirchhof
17 Beethoven Sextets, Quintet, Duet -L'Archibudelli
18 Schubert Symphonies Nos. 7 & 8 -Bruno Weil
19 Beethoven String Trios Op.9 Nos.1-3 -L'Archibudelli
20 Febus Avant! -Paul Van Nevel / Huelgas Ensemble
21 Gombert Music From The Court Of Charles V -Paul Van Nevel
22 Airs De Cour French Court Music From The 17th Century -Lutz Kirchhof
23 Vivaldi The Four Seasons / Sinfonia "Al Santo Sepolcro" Concerto Op.3 - Charlotte Nediger / Tafelmusik
24 Haydn Symponies Nos. 41-43 -Bruno Weil / Tafelmusik
25 Haydn Symponies Nos. 44, 51 & 52 -Bruno Weil / Tafelmusik
26 Weiss Lute Works Vol. 1 & 2 -Lutz Kirchhof
27 Weiss Lute Works Vol. 1 & 2 -Lutz Kirchhof
28 Vivaldi Sonatsa For Violoncello & Basso Continuo -Anner Bylsma
29 Beethoven Archduke & Ghost Trios -Anner Bylsma / Vera Beth / Jos Van Immerseel
30 Handel Concerti Grossi, Op. 3 -Jeanne Lamon / Tafelmusik
31 Motets Of The 17th Century -Niederaltaicher Scholaren
32 Haydn The Last 4 Piano Trios -Anner Bylsma / Vera Beth / Robert Levin
33 Boccherini Cellokonzerte C-Dur Und D-Dur -Jeanne Lamon / Tafelmusik
34 Boccherini Cello Sonatas -Anner Bylsma / Kenneth Slowik / Bob Van Asperen
35 Mozart Clarinet Quintet; Clarinet Quartet; Kegelstatt Trio -L'Archibudelli
36 Northen German Organ Music -Gustave Leonhardt
37 C.P.E Bach Complete Fluet Sonatas -Barthold Kuijken / Bob Van Asperen
38 C.P.E Bach Complete Fluet Sonatas -Barthold Kuijken / Bob Van Asperen
39 Franchomme Chopin Grand Duo Concertant -Anner Bylsma / Lambert Orkis / Kenneth Slowik
40 Schbert Maesse 5 / Deutsche Messe -Bruno Weil
41 Organ Music In France And Southern Nertherlands -Gustave Leonhardt
42 Haydn Die Schopfung (Oratorium) (Gesamtaufnahme) -Bruno Weil / Tafelmusik / Toelzer Knabenchor
43-44 Agricola Ein Geheimes Labyrinth -Paul Van Nevel / Huelgas Ensemble
45 Beethoven Sonaten Fur Violoncello Und Klavier -Anner Bylsma / Jos Van Immerseel
46 Beethoven Sonaten Fur Violoncello Und Klavier -Anner Bylsma / Jos Van Immerseel
47 Mozart Requiem -Bruno Weil / Tafelmusik
48 Schubert Piano Trios 1 & 2 -Anner Bylsma / Vera Beth / Jos Van Immerseel
49 Vivaldi Eleven Concertos -Anner Bylsma / Jeanne Lamon / Tafelmusik
50 Haydn Die Letzten Drei Streichquartette -L'Archibudelli
51 Handel Feuermusik -Jeanne Lamon / Tafelmusik
52 Telemann Paris Quartets 1-12 -Gustave Leonhardt
53 Telemann Paris Quartets 1-12 -Gustave Leonhardt
54 Telemann Paris Quartets 1-12 -Gustave Leonhardt
55 Utopia Triumphans (Musik Der Renaissance) -Paul Van Nevel / Huelgas Ensemble
56 Bach Vioinkonzerte -Jeanne Lamon / Tafelmusik
57 Bach Brandenburg Concertos -Jeanne Lamon / Tafelmusik
58 Bach Brandenburg Concertos -Jeanne Lamon / Tafelmusik
59 Brahms / Schumann Cello Sonatas. Op. 38 / Op. 99 5 Stucke Im Volkston, Op. 102 -Anner Bylsma / Lambert Orkis
60 Handel Wassermusik -Jeanne Lamon / Tafelmusik
Post by: hafod on March 28, 2011, 09:11:33 AM
The Vivarte Box set. 80 USD on cduniverse....:
Just come across these boards and this brilliant thread in particular.
This box (I think it is the same one) can be had from jpc for €35
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Meisterwerke-des-Barock-60CD-Sonderedition/hnum/9383995
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on March 28, 2011, 09:24:32 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 28, 2011, 09:28:30 AM
The Vivarte Box set. 80 USD on cduniverse....:
Just come across these boards and this brilliant thread in particular.
This box (I think it is the same one) can be had from jpc for €35
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Meisterwerke-des-Barock-60CD-Sonderedition/hnum/9383995
Can't be that one, it would be too much of a stretch even for Sony to call Beethoven a Baroque Master... :D
8)
Post by: hafod on March 28, 2011, 09:39:35 AM
Or is this what passes for humour on these boards?
Post by: DavidRoss on March 28, 2011, 09:49:50 AM
I don't see any mention of Beethoven in the list of contents.#s 17, 19, 29, 45, 46
Or is this what passes for humour on these boards?
Welcome to GMG, hafod! Hope you'll take the time to introduce yourself on the Introductions board http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/board,2.0.html
Post by: Antoine Marchand on March 28, 2011, 10:07:44 AM
I don't see any mention of Beethoven in the list of contents.
Or is this what passes for humour on these boards?
One picture speaks a thousand words:
(http://i.importcds.com/500/1/8/1/1810344.jpg)
You're talking about a different box set. :)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on March 28, 2011, 10:14:54 AM
The Vivarte Box set. 80 USD on cduniverse....:
It will be slightly cheaper on Amazon which is appealing because CD Universe charges for shipping and handling are extremely high these days (when you order from abroad):
http://www.amazon.com/Vivarte-Box-Set/dp/B004N6W1EK
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 28, 2011, 10:21:56 AM
I don't see any mention of Beethoven in the list of contents.
Or is this what passes for humour on these boards?
No, all of my humor is genuine humor. :)
The list of disks posted by Erato contains a few disks by Beethoven, as well as Haydn, Mozart, Schubert etc.. Thus my seizure of the likelihood of his set and your set not being one. ;)
One picture speaks a thousand words:
(http://i.importcds.com/500/1/8/1/1810344.jpg)
You're talking about a different box set. :)
Yeah, that's a beauty there. I have a bunch of those already, but the temptation to duplicate my holdings might just overcome... :)
8)
Post by: Orpheus on March 28, 2011, 10:53:16 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41vLAJPH0JL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B000RZOR2U/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1301338324&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B000RZOR2U/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1301338324&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on March 28, 2011, 10:58:24 AM
Only for Bach addicted (like me!)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41vLAJPH0JL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B000RZOR2U/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1301338324&sr=1-1&condition=new (http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B000RZOR2U/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1301338324&sr=1-1&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
I would bet, it's an error. If not, it would be a historical bargain. :)
Post by: Antoine Marchand on March 28, 2011, 10:59:56 AM
I would bet, it's an error. If not, it would be a historical bargain. :)
I vote Scarpia.
Post by: Antoine Marchand on March 28, 2011, 11:09:37 AM
Post by: canninator on March 28, 2011, 11:36:48 AM
Good news about this two boxes... :P
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Fq108KZhL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B002HNA94K/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1300553031&sr=1-2&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B002HNA94K/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1300553031&sr=1-2&condition=new)
Orpheus ;)
Thanks for the heads up on this box. I already had the Dowland and Bach but for that price it was worth duplicating for the other three CDs. I've listened to the Kapsberger so far. He can get a bad rap these days but it is sensitively played, a real treat.
Post by: knight66 on March 28, 2011, 12:36:40 PM
It's available again for EUR 32. It's very weird.
It is also available through UK Amazon from the same marketseller at a £ equivalent and almost free postage. I was tempted, but all those acidic altos and breathy boy sopranos....no.
Mike
Post by: The new erato on March 28, 2011, 12:48:39 PM
It will be slightly cheaper on Amazon which is appealing because CD Universe charges for shipping and handling are extremely high these days (when you order from abroad):7 USD for shipping to Norway (from cduniverse) for this box is not what I call excessive, and I think the box is listed at USD 105 at amazon.com. You work out what is the better deal.
http://www.amazon.com/Vivarte-Box-Set/dp/B004N6W1EK
Edit: I see amazon listing it at USD 76 - they obviously have had a change of heart. And no - it's not he same box as before, though a handful of discs are available in the Secret Labyrinth as well as the DHM 50 anniversary box.
Edit2: What is really weird is that amazon.com lists it as an import (påredumably from eurpe); yet amazon.de charges 120 Euro for it - around double the price at amazon.com.
Post by: Scarpia on March 28, 2011, 01:18:58 PM
It's available again for EUR 32. It's very weird.
I looked, saw it listed as "new" and put it in my cart. Then it disappeared from my cart. I went back and saw it listed as "used" and put it in my cart again. Then I figured it was too good to resist and ordered it. By then, it had appeared again in new, even though my order had gone through. At that point I had no faith that the seller had any idea what he or she was doing and canceled the order. It seems to be gone now, so I guess someone else grabbed it up or was withdrawn again. I have no regrets, I have no desire to deal with a questionable vendor from across an ocean.
In any case, even at 30 Euro, it was questionable for me, the though of those arias with juvenile sopranos makes me cringe.
Post by: The new erato on March 28, 2011, 01:23:23 PM
:D
Post by: Scarpia on March 28, 2011, 01:34:01 PM
Yes, we across-the-ocean guys are very unreliable!
I have ordered from many overseas sites, but the antics of that particular seller did not inspire confidence. :)
Post by: The new erato on March 28, 2011, 01:37:31 PM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on March 28, 2011, 02:01:23 PM
7 USD for shipping to Norway (from cduniverse) for this box is not what I call excessive, and I think the box is listed at USD 105 at amazon.com. You work out what is the better deal.
You're right about CD Universe. During a long time CD Universe was my favorite store in the USA, but then they began to charge some crazy sh. & h. costs and I opted for other stores. But now the airmail shipping to Chile is marked at $10.99 which is very good. I think I will order that set there. Thanks!
Post by: Scarpia on March 28, 2011, 03:43:17 PM
It's available again for EUR 32. It's very weird.
Now it's on Amazon.co.uk by the same vendor for 28 pounds.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sacred-Cantatas-Harnoncourt-Leonhardt-Set/dp/B000RZOR2U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1301355657&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sacred-Cantatas-Harnoncourt-Leonhardt-Set/dp/B000RZOR2U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1301355657&sr=8-2)
Something odd is going on.
Post by: Lethevich on March 28, 2011, 03:58:13 PM
Post by: Scarpia on March 28, 2011, 03:59:57 PM
I believe that was because the big sellers use bots to match or undercut the prices of other retailers, so when one screws up it creates a domino effect.
Seller name is the same on amazon.co.uk as it was on amazon.de. A person or a bot is listing the item after it has already been sold, I presume.
...and now it has vanished from Amazon.co.uk as well.
Post by: canninator on March 29, 2011, 04:11:56 AM
I believe that was because the big sellers use bots to match or undercut the prices of other retailers, so when one screws up it creates a domino effect.
Really? What would stop
1. Register as a ghost vendor
2. Identify the item you want cheap
3. Advertise it under your ghost company at bargain price
4. Wait for a bot from a big company to lower the price
5. ? ? ?
6. Profit
Post by: The new erato on March 29, 2011, 04:21:41 AM