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Poll
Question: What are your 3 favorite Beatles Albums?
Option 1: Please Please Me
Option 2: With the Beatles
Option 3: A Hard Day's Night
Option 4: Beatles For Sale
Option 5: Help!
Option 6: Rubber Soul
Option 7: Revolver
Option 8: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Option 9: Magical Mystery Tour
Option 10: Yellow Submarine
Option 11: The Beatles (White Album)
Option 12: Let It Be
Option 13: Abbey Road
Option 14: Past Masters, Vol 1
Option 15: Past Masters, Vol 2
Title: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:20:08 PM
It seems time for a Beatles thread.

Thought we'd start with a fun poll.

Since so many of their albums are great, you have 3 votes, which need to be used the first time you vote.

I left out all of the compilation CD's, except for Past Masters, as they have many songs that aren't available on the albums.

Let's have some fun!! :)
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:25:02 PM

BTW, the order of the albums is order of release.

My three faves come right in a row:

1. Rubber Soul

2. Revolver

3. Sgt. Pepper

Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 06:25:02 PM
BTW, the order of the albums is order of release.

My three faves come right in a row:

1. Rubber Soul

2. Revolver

3. Sgt. Pepper



Me too.
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:26:32 PM
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
Me too.

:)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:28:37 PM
Any ideas for topics to discuss?

Favorite Beatle? Why?

Ever get to see them in concert?

Got any rare stuff?

Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 06:25:02 PM
BTW, the order of the albums is order of release.

My three faves come right in a row:

1. Rubber Soul

2. Revolver

3. Sgt. Pepper

Wow, are you sure we're not related or something?  You pegged my three favorites as well.  Such a creative period in their history and the arguements hadn't started yet.  Wonderful albums.  My favorite tracks off those albums are: Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man, Taxman, E. Rigby, Lucy in the Sky, Within You Without You, Day in the Life (well, pretty much everything).
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 01, 2007, 06:33:12 PM
My votes went to Hard Day's Night, White Album and Sgt. Pepper.
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:35:17 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:31:05 PM
Wow, are you sure we're not related or something?  You pegged my three favorites as well.  Such a creative period in their history and the arguements hadn't started yet.  Wonderful albums.  My favorite tracks off those albums are: Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man, Taxman, E. Rigby, Lucy in the Sky, Within You Without You, Day in the Life (well, pretty much everything).

;D

Imagine releasing three albums in a row without a dud in the bunch.  :o 

I doubt if that's ever been equalled.

Personally, I think that when CD's came out, Rubber Soul and Revolver should have been released on the same CD. They are certainly short enough.

If forced to pick just one, I would say Revolver without hesitation. Simply unbelievable!  :) 
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:36:00 PM
Quote from: Don on May 01, 2007, 06:33:12 PM
My votes went to Hard Day's Night, White Album and Sgt. Pepper.

Those three would probably follow mine.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:36:28 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 06:28:37 PM
Ever get to see them in concert?

I saw Paul live in 1992 when he came to Charlotte.  The concert was broadcast nationally on TV and was very good.  He played a mix of Beatles, Wings, and new songs from the then just released "Off the Ground" Album.  He played over two hours plus an encore with a guitar duel during "Sgt Pepper" and a sing along with "Hey Jude".  Great night.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:36:28 PM
I saw Paul in 1992 when he came to Charlotte.  The concert was broadcast nationally on TV and was very good.  He played a mix of Beatles, Wings, and new songs from the then just released "Off the Ground" Album.  He played over two hours plus an encore with a guitar duel during "Sgt Pepper" and a sing along with "Hey Jude".  Great night.

I heard him live on TV in the past few years and it sure sounds like his voice is dropping off, so you were lucky to hear him when you did.

I still love that live version of "Maybe I'm Amazed." Did he do that one?
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 06:35:17 PM
Personally, I think that when CD's came out, Rubber Soul and Revolver should have been released on the same CD.

Interestingly, George Harrison said sort of the same thing in one of his interviews.  He believed that the two albums could be viewed as Volume 1 and Volume 2.
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:40:39 PM
Interestingly, George Harrison said sort of the same thing in one of his interviews.  He believed that the two albums could be viewed as Volume 1 and Volume 2.

That's because I am The Taxman George Harrison.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 06:38:18 PM
I heard him live on TV in the past few years and it sure sounds like his voice is dropping off, so you were lucky to hear him when you did.

I still love that live version of "Maybe I'm Amazed." Did he do that one?


Yes, and his voice was still in good shape then, although I noticed he played "Yesterday" in F rather than the original G.  I respect Sir Paul greatly, but I think after Flaming Pie (which was a fantastic album) his writing hasn't been quite as good.  But hey, he's only been churning out hits for 40 years!
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:46:25 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 06:42:23 PM
That's because I am The Taxman George Harrison.  ;D

I guess that makes me the Walrus!  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:46:39 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:45:20 PM
Yes, and his voice was still in good shape then, although I noticed he played "Yesterday" in F rather than the original G.  I respect Sir Paul greatly, but I think after Flaming Pie (which was a fantastic album) his writing hasn't been quite as good.  But hey, he's only been churning out hits for 40 years!

Indeed. How was that Classical CD he put out?
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:46:25 PM
I guess that makes me the Walrus!  ;D

Goo goo goo joob!!  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:52:41 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 06:46:39 PM
Indeed. How was that Classical CD he put out?

He actually put out two.  "Standing Stone" and the "Liverpool Oratorio".  To be honest, for someone who spent his life writing popular music by ear and had no formal musical training, its not half bad.  The form is more free than most "classical" pieces, but he handles orchestraion well and (as you would expect from Paul) has some of the prettiest melodies you can imagine.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:55:30 PM
Oh jeez, I just saw the time.  I've got to teach tomorrow.  Got to get to bed.  Darn career gets in the way of a good online conversation.   :P

Later.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:56:31 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 06:55:30 PM
Oh jeez, I just saw the time.  I've got to teach tomorrow.  Got to get to bed.  Darn career gets in the way of a good online conversation.   :P

Later.

I'll be here.

Nice chatting!

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 06:57:46 PM
I first heard the American versions of my picks, by the way. The UK albums are a bit different before Sgt. Pepper's. But you knew that.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:58:43 PM
I took a course on college on the Beatles.

It was great fun and I learned a lot about the Beatles.

We used this book (http://www.amazon.com/Tell-Me-Why-Beatles-Sixties/dp/0306811200/ref=sr_1_1/104-2949723-2736732?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178074466&sr=8-1) as a text for the course. I strongly recommend it, as it discusses the music without going into music theory. Tons of great trivia.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 07:10:09 PM
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 06:57:46 PM
I first heard the American versions of my picks, by the way. The UK albums are a bit different before Sgt. Pepper's. But you knew that.

I did know that.

Remind me the difference?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 07:10:09 PM
I did know that.

Remind me the difference?

America butchered the UK albums in order to make more albums--and more money.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 07:14:28 PM
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 07:12:06 PM
America butchered the UK albums in order to make more albums--and more money.

Right, I've heard that in order to have all of the Beatles output, one need only get all of the UK versions of the albums AND Past masters one and two.

Volume two is excellent IMO, with the Electric version of Revolution, Hey Jude and Inner Light.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 07:12:06 PM
America butchered the UK albums in order to make more albums--and more money.

I believe that it's the source of inspiration for this cover:

(http://www.unidiversal.com/Image_Beatles_Butcher_Album_Cover_001f.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: George on May 01, 2007, 07:16:34 PM
I believe that it's the source of inspiration for this cover:

(http://www.unidiversal.com/Image_Beatles_Butcher_Album_Cover_001f.jpg)

Yep.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on May 01, 2007, 08:15:14 PM
A Hard Day's Night
Revolver
Magical Mystery Tour

and Please Please Me just losing by a nose to A Hard Day's Night.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: The Mad Hatter on May 01, 2007, 09:05:39 PM
My three favourite are Abbey Road, the White Album and Revolver. In no particular order...
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: sunnyside_up on May 02, 2007, 01:32:34 AM
My top two have always been Rubber Soul and Revolver, but 3 is tricky, I went for Past Masters 2 since it lines up a few of my favourite Beatles tunes all on one CD.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 02, 2007, 06:40:32 PM
Goodness! What a toughy...

Probably Abbey Road for the top spot. It just doesn't get any better than the "side two" medley (Here Comes The Sun and beyond).

White Album next.

Third is up in the air...Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers, Magical Mystery Tour, and Past Masters Vol. 2 each have something to say (as it were) although I might lean slightly towards Sgt. Peppers on the strength of Lennon's ballads (Lucy In The Sky and Day In The Life).

Although Revolver does contain my favorite Beatles tune, Eleanor Rigby, with Rubber Soul containing my second and third favorite Beatles tunes, Norwegian Wood, and Nowhere Man.

Then there's Past Masters Vol. 2 with all those spectacular singles: Hey Jude, Revolution, Lady Madonna, etc... And Magical Mystery Tour with Strawberry Fields, Fool On The Hill, and I Am The Walrus.

So it's a toss up. Probably Sgt. Peppers since, well, the music's just so out of this world colorful!


Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 02, 2007, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: donwyn on May 02, 2007, 06:40:32 PM
Goodness! What a toughy...



Yeah, that's why I gave three choices.  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 02, 2007, 08:30:49 PM
Time was a couple decades ago when Beatlemania caught me firm in its clutches. Couldn't get enough of the Fab Fo...you know. ;)

Caught the collecting bug, too. Managed to pick up some fine collectable gems on LP, such as an Apple label White Album on white vinyl (very cool), Anthology 1962-66 on red vinyl (this acquisition actually predated my Beatlemania phase but was glad to have it!), several Apple label records in mint condition, and this Strawberry Fields bootleg. (http://rateyourmusic.com/release/unauth/the_beatles/strawberry_fields_forever/)

Nothing spectacular on this bootleg but it does contain some interesting outtakes from various recording sessions, as well as a live Hey Jude.

Anyway, I made the mistake of selling the colored vinyl gems - as well as all the other records, actually! - but held on to this bootleg. It's since earned a hallowed position in my vinyl collection - and is staying put!


Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Danny on May 02, 2007, 10:37:50 PM
Golden slumbers fill your eyes /  Smiles aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawake you when you rise!

;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: sunnyside_up on May 03, 2007, 01:31:40 AM
George, I highly recommend this book if you haven't already read it - full of insights and interesting bits of info on each and every Beatles song.

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HD94QKH2L._AA240_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Hector on May 03, 2007, 04:14:43 AM


They were so advanced and hearing them in the context of a lot of the garbage that passes as popular music nowadays they sound even better.

Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road and a toss up between the White Album and Let it Be, both seriously flawed, I opted for the latter.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 10:29:43 AM
Never liked the music, cannot stand it to be honest. :P
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 10:31:24 AM
Quote from: Harry on May 03, 2007, 10:29:43 AM
Never liked the music, cannot stand it to be honest. :P

Blasphemy!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
I 'bumped' into Ringo on the Kings Road in Chelsea in 2000.

Recognised him immediately and stalked him down the road for a while, convinced I was tracking George Harrison! (Although as I approached him, realised who he was).

He stopped outside an antiques shop, at which I decided to take my chance and tap him on the shoulder. He whirled 'round and I tentively asked for his autograph, to which he exclaimed (In his nasaly Scouse drawl):

'Sorry mate, it's my day off'!!!
;D

I've 'met' one of the Fab Four!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 10:39:44 AM
And for the record:

1. Revolver
2. Rubber Soul
3. White Album

:)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 10:31:24 AM
Blasphemy!

Well really! ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 10:42:51 AM
Quote from: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
I 'bumped' into Ringo on the Kings Road in Chelsea in 2000.

Recognised him immediately and stalked him down the road for a while, convinced I was tracking George Harrison! (Although as I approached him, realised who he was).

He stopped outside an antiques shop, at which I decided to take my chance and tap him on the shoulder. He whirled 'round and I tentively asked for his autograph, to which he exclaimed (In his nasaly Scouse drawl):

'Sorry mate, it's my day off'!!!
;D

I've 'met' one of the Fab Four!

You got snubbed by the least talented one!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 03, 2007, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
I 'bumped' into Ringo on the Kings Road in Chelsea in 2000.

Recognised him immediately and stalked him down the road for a while, convinced I was tracking George Harrison! (Although as I approached him, realised who he was).

He stopped outside an antiques shop, at which I decided to take my chance and tap him on the shoulder. He whirled 'round and I tentively asked for his autograph, to which he exclaimed (In his nasaly Scouse drawl):

'Sorry mate, it's my day off'!!!
;D

I've 'met' one of the Fab Four!

Great story!  :)

Quote from: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 10:39:44 AM
And for the record:

1. Revolver
2. Rubber Soul
3. White Album

:)

Yeah, for me it was either the White Album or Sgt. Pepper as #3. I picked Sgt. Pepper 'cause I listen to it more. I think I like (and admire) the White album more though. (I should've done 4 guesses :-\)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 03, 2007, 11:10:41 AM
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 10:31:24 AM
Blasphemy!

Harry thinks Paul is a soprano.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 11:13:31 AM
Quote from: George on May 03, 2007, 11:10:41 AM
Harry thinks Paul is a soprano.  ;D

Oke floor again George! ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: jwinter on May 03, 2007, 11:27:23 AM
Rubber Soul is definitely my favorite album (of all time, by anybody), followed closely by Revolver -- #3 is a toughie, went with the White Album but I could change my mind tomorrow.  I definitely think 1966 was their best period -- I have a mix CD with all of Rubber Soul intermixed with some other singles and songs from Help! that were recorded at around the same time -- I probably play it more than any other pop CD in my collection.

I've been a huge Beatles fan my whole life.  I was heavily into it when I was in high school and college, had piles of bootlegs and the whole bit.  I've scaled back quite a bit in recent years, but I still listen to them regularly, and the first thing I did when I got my new PALM last week was import their whole catalog on MP3 ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 03, 2007, 11:28:40 AM
Quote from: Harry on May 03, 2007, 11:13:31 AM
Oke floor again George! ;D

;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Danny on May 03, 2007, 11:37:00 AM
1) Abbey Road
2) Sgt. Pepper
3) A Hard Day's Night
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: George on May 03, 2007, 11:09:41 AM
Great story!  :)

Yeah, for me it was either the White Album or Sgt. Pepper as #3. I picked Sgt. Pepper 'cause I listen to it more. I think I like (and admire) the White album more though. (I should've done 4 guesses :-\)

Cheers dude  :)

For a fourth, I'ld have gone for either Abbey Road or Let it be (naked version)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 03, 2007, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 11:44:54 AM
Cheers dude  :)

For a fourth, I'ld have gone for either Abbey Road or Let it be (naked version)

Yes, I much prefer the Naked version. Esp. "The long and winding road"   :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: knight66 on May 03, 2007, 11:56:45 AM
Quote from: jwinter on May 03, 2007, 11:27:23 AM

I've been a huge Beatles fan my whole life. 

I love this idea, springing forth from the womb, claiming, "Goo goo goo joob...where is my revolver???" Just like St Nicholas.

The very first LP I ever bought with birthday money was 'A hard Day's Night'.

Mike
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: George on May 03, 2007, 11:48:46 AM
Yes, I much prefer the Naked version. Esp. "The long and winding road"   :)

Although would add that I've probably played 'Red' and 'Blue' much more than the others. Still find Sgt. Pepper overrated, but consider 'A day in the life' to be one of the greatest songs ever written...
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 12:00:18 PM
Although would add that I've probably played 'Red' and 'Blue' much more than the others. Still find Sgt. Pepper overrated, but consider 'A day in the life' to be one of the greatest songs ever written...

Sgt. Pepper's is overrated, musically speaking. But the concept was new at the time which gives it historical cred.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 12:08:29 PM
Sgt. Pepper's is overrated, musically speaking. But the concept was new at the time which gives it historical cred.

Yeah, I think kudos is deserved for conceptualisation, but as you say (and for me) just doesn't quite work as well musically. However, did you ever hear the 'Stones musical retort? It's bloody awful:

(http://longguy.20fr.com/images/rolling_satanic_cov.jpg)

Not sure I agree with the sentiment expressed here though:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/rolling_stones.htm

;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: helios on May 07, 2007, 10:11:38 AM
Good thread George.

My ranking would probably be:
1.  Abbey Road
2.  The Beatles
3.  Revolver

My favourite songs are largely not off Abbey Road (with the exception of Something), but that Side 2 medley is musical bliss - not much else in all of music comes close IMO.

The Beatles is just so inconsistent.  I adore so many of the songs (particularly Dear Prudence & Helter Skelter), but there's a lot of rubbish in there as well.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: helios on May 07, 2007, 10:11:38 AM
Good thread George.

My ranking would probably be:
1.  Abbey Road
2.  The Beatles
3.  Revolver

My favourite songs are largely not off Abbey Road (with the exception of Something), but that Side 2 medley is musical bliss - not much else in all of music comes close IMO.

Apparently the story behind that is that they had a bunch of short bits that weren't actually full songs. I think it was Billy Preston who suggested they make them into a medley. 

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The Beatles is just so inconsistent.  I adore so many of the songs (particularly Dear Prudence & Helter Skelter), but there's a lot of rubbish in there as well.

I agree, at least in that I either love or hate their songs. Most I love, though.

Nice avatar BTW!  :D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: orbital on May 07, 2007, 10:32:46 AM
Quote from: Harry on May 03, 2007, 10:29:43 AM
Never liked the music, cannot stand it to be honest. :P
:D although I can stand it to a degree, what I don't understand is the huge fuss. They may have been (very) influential in the development of popular music in general, but I don't see much in their music that is as revolutionary as say Led Zeppelin. What I hear in them more than anything else in is some catchy tunes. It is fair for me  to say that I respect them (Lennon in particular) for what they stood for more than for what they achieved in their music  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: cx on May 07, 2007, 10:43:37 AM
I chose the White Album, Revolver, and Abbey Road. The White Album has always been my favorite, containing maybe my favorite Beatles song "Happiness is a Warm Gun," plus so many others (Dear Prudence, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, I'm So Tired, Julia, Cry Baby Cry). The album is, I think, their most diverse (in terms of musical styles and "themes"): Helter Skelter (hard rock), Honey Pie ("music-hall" parody/homage), Blackbird, etc. (folk), Yer Blues, etc. (blues), and so on. And dare I say it may be their most experimental, as evidenced not only by the branching out into several different styles, but especially by "Revolution 9" with its collage of sounds and instances of musique concrète.

I should note that I'm much more of a Lennon fan than a McCartney fan (and I love Harrison despite his smaller output).

--CS
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 10:58:43 AM
Quote from: orbital on May 07, 2007, 10:32:46 AM
:D although I can stand it to a degree, what I don't understand is the huge fuss. They may have been (very) influential in the development of popular music in general, but I don't see much in their music that is as revolutionary as say Led Zeppelin. What I hear in them more than anything else in is some catchy tunes. It is fair for me  to say that I respect them (Lennon in particular) for what they stood for more than for what they achieved in their music  :-[ :-[ :-[

There was a time when I would absolutely agree with you. These days, I love the Beatles for what they are, a bunch of regular guys who wrote regular tunes. I also love that many of these tunes are about love and other positive topics. their sense of humor is great, esp on songs like "Run For Your Life."
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 07, 2007, 12:11:11 PM
This is the most sadistic poll ever. Only three choices? George, you bastard!

Past Masters Vol.1 (because I need those early singles)

Rubber Soul (because it's the best Beatles' album)

Magical Mystery Tour (because it's the most psychedelic Beatles' album)

Sarge



Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 07, 2007, 12:11:11 PM
This is the most sadistic poll ever. Only three choices? George, you bastard!

>:D

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Magical Mystery Tour (because it's the most psychedelic Beatles' album)

I like this one, too. I love singing it especially.  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:20:11 PM
Quote from: orbital on May 07, 2007, 10:32:46 AM
:D although I can stand it to a degree, what I don't understand is the huge fuss.

Well, you would have had to be around back then to get the full impact of the group.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on May 07, 2007, 12:24:23 PM
I had the good fortune to hear The Beatles twice live (actually all you heard was screaming) as my mum took me to see them (London Paladium and Wembley (or Hammersmith). My mum took me to see The Monkees too (don't laugh) all you heard was screaming also. I also went to the premieres of "Hard Day's Night" and "Yellow Submarine" (Ringo refused to sign my autograph book)

Now I listen to Miaskovsky Bax and Bantock  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: karlhenning on May 07, 2007, 12:28:14 PM
When I went to Miaskovsky Bax and Bantock, all you heard was screaming  8)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 12:31:11 PM
Quote from: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:20:11 PM
Well, you would have had to be around back then to get the full impact of the group.

Now that would have been nice.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: George on May 07, 2007, 12:31:11 PM
Now that would have been nice.

Yes, very nice.  The only negative is that I'm now close to 60.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:39:27 PM
Yes, very nice.  The only negative is that I'm now close to 60.

We will still need you when you're 64.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: sonic1 on May 07, 2007, 12:46:09 PM
I owe Beatles "revolver" for getting me into music at all, since my parents and everyone around me lacked any interest in music. Revolver was given to me by a neighbor along with an 8-track of Kiss Destroyer, and a few other things.

My favs are white album, sgt. peppers, and magical mystery tour, though it is always hard to decide.

I like all their albums, old stuff and new.

and I also love the stones and the who, though they say your personality always aligns with one or the other (or the other).
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: George on May 07, 2007, 12:43:01 PM
We will still need you when you're 64.

Good to hear, although I have to say that I never thought well of the "64" song - too sappy.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 12:48:12 PM
Quote from: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:46:19 PM
Good to hear, although I have to say that I never thought well of the "64" song - too sappy.

Not a Paul person?

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: sonic1 on May 07, 2007, 12:49:23 PM
I'm an ono person myself.  >:D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 07, 2007, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: Captain Haddock on May 07, 2007, 12:24:23 PM
I also went to the premieres of "Hard Day's Night" and "Yellow Submarine" (Ringo refused to sign my autograph book)

We now have two anecdotes in which Ringo refused to sign his name. Can we surmise anything from this? Maybe he couldn't write! ;D

Sarge
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: George on May 07, 2007, 12:48:12 PM
Not a Paul person?



That's on target.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 12:57:03 PM

The two DVD set of "Hard Day's Night" is on sale at Virgin Megastore for $10.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 07, 2007, 01:03:34 PM
Quote from: helios on May 07, 2007, 10:11:38 AM
The Beatles is just so inconsistent.  I adore so many of the songs (particularly Dear Prudence & Helter Skelter), but there's a lot of rubbish in there as well.

I love Helter Skelter. There's a cover of it on U2's Rattle and Hum, where Bono (IIRC) introduces it as 'A song Charles Manson stole from the Beatles, we're stealing it back'.

Whats that all about then?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: orbital on May 07, 2007, 01:09:14 PM
Quote from: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:20:11 PM
Well, you would have had to be around back then to get the full impact of the group.
Sure, but if they are still as highly regarded today, then there must be something that I am missing there. I have no doubts about their cultural influence -which is almost a quantifiable fact, but the music that they have recorded.
The reason I gave Led Zeppelin as an example is, today we still have hords of bands trying (but failing) to be Led Zeppelin. Can we say the same thing about the Beatles?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: orbital on May 07, 2007, 01:09:14 PM
Sure, but if they are still as highly regarded today, then there must be something that I am missing there. I have no doubts about their cultural influence -which is almost a quantifiable fact, but the music that they have recorded.
The reason I gave Led Zeppelin as an example is, today we still have hords of bands trying (but failing) to be Led Zeppelin. Can we say the same thing about the Beatles?

Beats me.  I haven't followed rock music since the late 1970's.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: bwv 1080 on May 07, 2007, 01:10:33 PM
Quote from: orbital on May 07, 2007, 01:09:14 PM
Sure, but if they are still as highly regarded today, then there must be something that I am missing there. I have no doubts about their cultural influence -which is almost a quantifiable fact, but the music that they have recorded.
The reason I gave Led Zeppelin as an example is, today we still have hords of bands trying (but failing) to be Led Zeppelin. Can we say the same thing about the Beatles?

There is always Oasis
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 07, 2007, 05:14:50 PM
Quote from: orbital on May 07, 2007, 01:09:14 PM
The reason I gave Led Zeppelin as an example is, today we still have hords of bands trying (but failing) to be Led Zeppelin. Can we say the same thing about the Beatles?

Trying - and failing - to be Led Zepplin is telling in itself.

With the Beatles (no pun...) it makes no sense to even try.



Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: helios on May 08, 2007, 01:06:10 AM
Quote from: George on May 07, 2007, 10:21:01 AM
Apparently the story behind that is that they had a bunch of short bits that weren't actually full songs. I think it was Billy Preston who suggested they make them into a medley. 

Nice avatar BTW!  :D

Yeah.. I don't think some of those songs in the medley could really be strung out another minute or so - perfect as they are.

I thought you'd like the avatar.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: helios on May 08, 2007, 01:08:30 AM
Quote from: CS on May 07, 2007, 10:43:37 AM
I should note that I'm much more of a Lennon fan than a McCartney fan (and I love Harrison despite his smaller output).

Yes, completely agree.  I guess it's not surprising that our 3 favourite albums are the same.

All things must pass by Harrison is very underrated.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: The Mad Hatter on May 08, 2007, 03:52:49 AM
Quote from: helios on May 08, 2007, 01:08:30 AM
Yes, completely agree.  I guess it's not surprising that our 3 favourite albums are the same.

All things must pass by Harrison is very underrated.

Nearly all of my favourite Beatles songs are his. He's got such a small catalogue compared to the other two, but to the best of my knowledge, he didn't write a single bad song. (as I only own five 'proper' Beatles albums and 1, I'm not certain about this...)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 08, 2007, 05:01:05 AM
Quote from: helios on May 08, 2007, 01:08:30 AM
All things must pass by Harrison is very underrated.

Quote from: The Mad Hatter on May 08, 2007, 03:52:49 AM
Nearly all of my favourite Beatles songs are his. He's got such a small catalogue compared to the other two, but to the best of my knowledge, he didn't write a single bad song.

My avatar is blushing.  8)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: orbital on May 08, 2007, 06:00:48 AM
Quote from: donwyn on May 07, 2007, 05:14:50 PM
Trying - and failing - to be Led Zepplin is telling in itself.

With the Beatles (no pun...) it makes no sense to even try.

I know. They already wrote and recorded all the catchy tunes that were still available >:D >:D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 08, 2007, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: helios on May 08, 2007, 01:08:30 AM
All things must pass by Harrison is very underrated.

I'll contend that George's final album "Brainwashed" is hugely underrated.  It was 95% finished at the time of his death and completed by his son and producer Jeff Lynne (formally of the ELO).  It is an album of meaningful music, lovely melodies, some incredible slide guitar playing, and a spiritual message not found in music today.  Fantastic.

http://www.amazon.com/Brainwashed-George-Harrison/dp/B00006LSM3/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-4456605-3214401?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178668035&sr=8-2
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 08, 2007, 09:30:44 PM
Do not believe it is complete....George, or someone else in the know, maybe you could finish it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea6ZcfJspcI&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-SlkUgCRg&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xINfAYiWVhU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKbPSRyDo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd8JYA4MvlQ&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 08, 2007, 09:53:30 PM
And why not?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPp8nieMHmk&mode=related&search=

and saw this one "live" on tv as a kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2TGWDZTrj0
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on June 09, 2007, 04:46:59 AM
Or the "famous" AL TV interview:   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_GxCpUXWY&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 05:19:14 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 08, 2007, 09:30:44 PM
Do not believe it is complete....George, or someone else in the know, maybe you could finish it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea6ZcfJspcI&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-SlkUgCRg&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xINfAYiWVhU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKbPSRyDo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd8JYA4MvlQ&mode=related&search=




Wow!  :o

If it's incomplete, I am sure that it's complete on the "Let it Be" movie. I don't have it.  :( That's one worth seeking out. I think I saw it once.

I can also check later and see how much of it is on The Beatles Anthology DVD. Looks like there's a track for it, but don't have the time right now. Later today, OK?  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 05:22:37 AM
Quote from: George on June 09, 2007, 05:19:14 AM

Wow!  :o

If it's incomplete, I am sure that it's complete on the "Let it Be" movie. I don't have it.  :( That's one worth seeking out. I think I saw it once.

I can also check later and see how much of it is on The Beatles Anthology DVD. Looks like there's a track for it, but don't have the time right now. Later today, OK?  :)

I guess they played some of the songs on the roof multiple times....does this sound correct?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 05:24:14 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 05:22:37 AM
I guess they played some of the songs on the roof multiple times....does this sound correct?

I wouldn't be surprised, but unfortunately, I know little about that show. I don't think it was released apart from the Movie and whatever happens to be on the Anthology.   
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 05:25:44 AM
Quote from: George on June 09, 2007, 05:24:14 AM
I wouldn't be surprised, but unfortunately, I know little about that show. I don't think it was released apart from the Movie and whatever happens to be on the Anthology.   

The Beatles played five songs during the rooftop performance: "Get Back" (three times), "Don't Let Me Down" (twice), "I've Got a Feeling" (twice), "One After 909", and "Dig a Pony". (The Beatles also played a brief version of the British national anthem, "God Save the Queen" and a brief rehersal of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" while second engineer Alan Parsons was changing tapes.)[3]

After the final song, McCartney is heard to say, "Thanks, Mo!" acknowledging the enthusiastic applause and cheering from Maureen Starkey. Then Lennon closes with the well-known remark, "I'd like to say 'thank you' on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we passed the audition!"[3] This exchange was spliced on to the end of the Let It Be album.

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 05:56:57 AM
There is this for track listings:

(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/rt1_a.jpg)(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/rt1_b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 05:58:31 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 05:25:44 AM
The Beatles played five songs during the rooftop performance: "Get Back" (three times), "Don't Let Me Down" (twice), "I've Got a Feeling" (twice), "One After 909", and "Dig a Pony". (The Beatles also played a brief version of the British national anthem, "God Save the Queen" and a brief rehersal of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" while second engineer Alan Parsons was changing tapes.)[3]

After the final song, McCartney is heard to say, "Thanks, Mo!" acknowledging the enthusiastic applause and cheering from Maureen Starkey. Then Lennon closes with the well-known remark, "I'd like to say 'thank you' on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we passed the audition!"[3] This exchange was spliced on to the end of the Let It Be album.



Yeah, I thought that last line was classic!  8)

I really dunno where you'll find the complete tapes for that. Even the movie (OOP?) surely didn't have multiple takes of each song.  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 05:59:40 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 05:56:57 AM
There is this for track listings:

(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/rt1_a.jpg)(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/rt1_b.jpg)


hey, you've been holding out, Bill!  ;D

I may be able to find that in NYC, or do you already have it?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 06:00:28 AM
Quote from: George on June 09, 2007, 05:59:40 AM
hey, you've been holding out, Bill!  ;D

I may be able to find that in NYC, or do you already have it?

Never have seen it....must be a bootleg, no?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 06:01:30 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 06:00:28 AM
Never have seen it....must be a bootleg, no?

Indeed. There are bootlegs aplenty in NYC though.  :D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 06:08:59 AM
Quote from: George on June 09, 2007, 06:01:30 AM
Indeed. There are bootlegs aplenty in NYC though.  :D

Maybe down the Abbey road Paul will get behind an official release that this concert deserves with the proper packaging etc.  One can only hope. :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 06:08:59 AM
Maybe down the Abbey road Paul will get behind an official release that this concert deserves with the proper packaging etc.  One can only hope. :)

I can ask around the village and see if there is a bootleg that comes form the master tapes.

If so, then I'll see if there's any copies floating around.

Sounds like the beginnings of a Magical Mystery Tour...roll up!!!!  $:)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Szykneij on June 09, 2007, 05:28:52 PM
Quote from: George on June 09, 2007, 06:01:30 AM
Indeed. There are bootlegs aplenty in NYC though.  :D

Yup, my 13-year old son got himself a nice Rolex for $25 when we visited last summer  ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Szykneij on June 09, 2007, 05:40:14 PM
I think this album is underrated. It was the first Beatles album I bought as a kid

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/d0/a5/d7f31363ada0834e87640110._AA240_.L.jpg)

although these two were given to me by a cool aunt:

(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DTMWWJPKL._AA240_.jpg)(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/62/e0/3900828fd7a0be90c8640110._AA240_.L.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Poetdante on June 10, 2007, 03:35:18 AM
I chose:

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The White Album
Abbey Road

I always feel happy when I listen "Sgt. Pepper's~", especially track 1~3.

Plus,  :)
My favorite single is "Strawberry Fields Forever." WOW!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: jwinter on June 10, 2007, 03:20:28 PM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 06:00:28 AM
Never have seen it....must be a bootleg, no?

It's certainly a bootleg.  I have it, though on a different bootleg.  You can shoot me a PM if you're desperate -- I could send you an MP3 or something...
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 10, 2007, 03:25:09 PM
I heard that the Let it Be movie should be re-released on DVD in the near future.  :D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 17, 2007, 05:10:38 AM
So, anyone of you one the bidders on this?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-ULTRA-RARE-UK-STEREO-WHITE-ALBUM-0000006_W0QQitemZ270128943287QQihZ017QQcategoryZ432QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 17, 2007, 05:14:53 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 17, 2007, 05:10:38 AM
So, anyone of you one the bidders on this?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-ULTRA-RARE-UK-STEREO-WHITE-ALBUM-0000006_W0QQitemZ270128943287QQihZ017QQcategoryZ432QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

:o :o

Not me. Too rich for my blood.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dr. Dread on April 18, 2009, 09:14:25 AM
Hey maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan,

Take your copy of Rubber Soul, hold it upside down in the mirror.

It says, "Road Abbey".

(sorta)   8)   ;D   :o
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 21, 2009, 12:10:50 PM
Just picked this up today.  I believe this completes my Beatles UK cd run, unless there is a cd release of the Hollywood Bowl concert out there?  

(http://www.geocities.com/shnava_the_beatle/past_masters_2.jpg)

Is there a ready checklist available to cross my run with?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on June 21, 2009, 12:20:37 PM
Just selected my favs:
Rubber Soul, Revolver and The Beatles (AKA White Album).
But all the others are outstanding, too!


Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on June 21, 2009, 03:45:07 PM
1 White Album

2 Sergeant Pepper

3 Magical Mystery Tour
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on August 24, 2012, 03:09:13 PM
Heading to this show tonight:

http://1964site.com/#/home/

Will report back.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on August 09, 2019, 09:50:26 AM
'It was fifty years ago today!'
Well, yesterday actually since the iconic photo of The Beatles on the Abbey Road crossing was taken.
Many people recreated the scene on the crossing yesterday which is preserved as a piece of national heritage.
I have a happy memory of coming home from school, when the Abbey Road album came out in 1969, to find that my mother had bought it for me and had put it on my bed, even though it wasn't my birthday or Christmas:
(//)

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on August 09, 2019, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on August 09, 2019, 09:50:26 AM
'It was fifty years ago today!'
Well, yesterday actually since the iconic photo of The Beatles on the Abbey Road crossing was taken.
Many people recreated the scene on the crossing yesterday which is preserved as a piece of national heritage.
I have a happy memory of coming home from school, when the Abbey Road album came out in 1969, to find that my mother had bought it for me a had put it on my bed, even though it wasn't my birthday or Christmas:
(//)



One sweet dream!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on August 10, 2019, 12:07:44 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 09, 2019, 07:19:52 PM
One sweet dream!

Indeed Karl. Funny how that memory has always stayed with me. I think that Abbey Road is one of their best albums.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonNZ on August 10, 2019, 01:44:03 AM
Of the three listed: 1.White Album 2.Sgt Pepper 3.Hard Day's Night

not listed is the immediate post-breakup singles and b-sides round up Hey Jude album which I think of as being as canonical as the others, and the songs play really nicely in that track order

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0a/Heyjudealbum.jpg/220px-Heyjudealbum.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on August 11, 2019, 11:34:05 AM
Quote from: SimonNZ on August 10, 2019, 01:44:03 AM
Of the three listed: 1.White Album 2.Sgt Pepper 3.Hard Day's Night

not listed is the immediate post-breakup singles and b-sides round up Hey Jude album which I think of as being as canonical as the others, and the songs play really nicely in that track order

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0a/Heyjudealbum.jpg/220px-Heyjudealbum.jpg)

These songs can be found mostly on the two Past Master albums.

Albums like 'Introducing The Beatles', 'Meet The Beatles' 'Second Album', 'Something New', 'Beatles VI', 'Yesterday And Today' and 'Hey Jude', to name but a few, were made for the USA market, by VeeJay and Capitol.
It's confusing with those split markets, because, for instance, the USA albums 'Help!' and 'Rubber Soul' don't have the same songs as the UK versions.

Nowadays the UK (Parlophone) titles, plus the Past Masters volumes, are regularly used as being the 'genuine' Beatles albums.

And there's a shitload of extras of course, from the Anthology trilogy to all kinds of bootlegs.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on August 11, 2019, 11:48:20 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on August 09, 2019, 09:50:26 AM
'It was fifty years ago today!'
Well, yesterday actually since the iconic photo of The Beatles on the Abbey Road crossing was taken.
Many people recreated the scene on the crossing yesterday which is preserved as a piece of national heritage.
I have a happy memory of coming home from school, when the Abbey Road album came out in 1969, to find that my mother had bought it for me and had put it on my bed, even though it wasn't my birthday or Christmas:
(//)

That's a great story. Love your mum. :)

Thanks to the update to the thread I'm listening to the Fab Four this evening... yet NOT the celebrated Abbey Road, but Beatles For Sale. One of their weakest IMHO (too many less-inspired cover songs), but weakest Beatles is still 8/10.
'I'm A Loser', 'Baby's In Black', 'Every Little Thing' and 'I Don't Want To Spoil The Party' are examples of great songs that I can listen to again and again.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on August 11, 2019, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: Marc on August 11, 2019, 11:48:20 AM
That's a great story. Love your mum. :)

Thanks to the update to the thread I'm listening to the Fab Four this evening... yet NOT the celebrated Abbey Road, but Beatles For Sale. One of their weakest IMHO (too many less-inspired cover songs), but weakest Beatles is still 8/10.
'I'm A Loser', 'Baby's In Black', 'Every Little Thing' and 'I Don't Want To Spoil The Party' are examples of great songs that I can listen to again and again.

Thank you! That was very sweet of my mum and the fact that I still remember it fifty years later shows how much it meant to me. I can still remember the joy of seeing the LP, unexpectedly, on my bed! Yes, this thread was dormant since 2012. We are still waiting for Bogey to report back on the 1964 Tribute Concert.  8)

I always liked 'Beatles for Sale'. I think I lent the LP to someone many decades ago and never got it back.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: jwinter on August 29, 2019, 11:45:49 AM
Today I've been revisiting the White Album 50th Remixes... while I really enjoyed the Sgt. Pepper remixes from a couple years ago, I'm still undecided on the White Album.  There are some tracks where the improvement is clear and obvious, such as "Long, Long, Long," which sounds absolutely amazing on this, so much clearer and more focused.  And yet in other places the new mix seems to bring out details just for the sake bringing them out.  Drums and bass are more prominent pretty much throughout, which greatly benefits the rockers.

George Martin once famously said that the existing double album was too unfocused, and would have been much improved if they'd pared it down to a single album.  In theory I kind of agree with him; but like many other Beatle-nerds I keep trying to come up with a 14 track, 7 tracks per side version that truly satisfies.  I've had a playlist on my phone for years, and every time I put it on I end up moving things around, and adding or removing a song or two.

My current list (which may change by supper time):

Side 1:

Back in the USSR
Dear Prudence (the opening 1-2 punch is so good, I can't mess with it)
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Mother Nature's Son
Cry Baby Cry
Blackbird
I'm So Tired

Side 2

Birthday
Don't Pass Me By (gotta have a Ringo song)
Revolution 1
Long, Long, Long
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Helter Skelter
Julia

I'm still not happy with it, though, not least because there are a couple of key songs missing (looking at you, Glass Onion).  Maybe I need to cheat and do 8 songs per side for a total of 16 -- which would have still fit comfortably on an LP, I think....  or I could pull in the Revolution/Hey Jude single.... sigh.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on September 01, 2019, 01:23:35 AM
Quote from: jwinter on August 29, 2019, 11:45:49 AM
Today I've been revisiting the White Album 50th Remixes... while I really enjoyed the Sgt. Pepper remixes from a couple years ago, I'm still undecided on the White Album.  There are some tracks where the improvement is clear and obvious, such as "Long, Long, Long," which sounds absolutely amazing on this, so much clearer and more focused.  And yet in other places the new mix seems to bring out details just for the sake bringing them out.  Drums and bass are more prominent pretty much throughout, which greatly benefits the rockers.

George Martin once famously said that the existing double album was too unfocused, and would have been much improved if they'd pared it down to a single album.  In theory I kind of agree with him; but like many other Beatle-nerds I keep trying to come up with a 14 track, 7 tracks per side version that truly satisfies.  I've had a playlist on my phone for years, and every time I put it on I end up moving things around, and adding or removing a song or two.

My current list (which may change by supper time):

Side 1:

Back in the USSR
Dear Prudence (the opening 1-2 punch is so good, I can't mess with it)
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Mother Nature's Son
Cry Baby Cry
Blackbird
I'm So Tired

Side 2

Birthday
Don't Pass Me By (gotta have a Ringo song)
Revolution 1
Long, Long, Long
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Helter Skelter
Julia

I'm still not happy with it, though, not least because there are a couple of key songs missing (looking at you, Glass Onion).  Maybe I need to cheat and do 8 songs per side for a total of 16 -- which would have still fit comfortably on an LP, I think....  or I could pull in the Revolution/Hey Jude single.... sigh.
It's still a great playlist although I like 'Glass Onion' and Revolution No.9.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on September 03, 2019, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: jwinter on August 29, 2019, 11:45:49 AM
Today I've been revisiting the White Album 50th Remixes... while I really enjoyed the Sgt. Pepper remixes from a couple years ago, I'm still undecided on the White Album.  There are some tracks where the improvement is clear and obvious, such as "Long, Long, Long," which sounds absolutely amazing on this, so much clearer and more focused.  And yet in other places the new mix seems to bring out details just for the sake bringing them out.  Drums and bass are more prominent pretty much throughout, which greatly benefits the rockers.

George Martin once famously said that the existing double album was too unfocused, and would have been much improved if they'd pared it down to a single album.  In theory I kind of agree with him; but like many other Beatle-nerds I keep trying to come up with a 14 track, 7 tracks per side version that truly satisfies.  I've had a playlist on my phone for years, and every time I put it on I end up moving things around, and adding or removing a song or two.

My current list (which may change by supper time):

Side 1:

Back in the USSR
Dear Prudence (the opening 1-2 punch is so good, I can't mess with it)
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Mother Nature's Son
Cry Baby Cry
Blackbird
I'm So Tired

Side 2

Birthday
Don't Pass Me By (gotta have a Ringo song)
Revolution 1
Long, Long, Long
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Helter Skelter
Julia

I'm still not happy with it, though, not least because there are a couple of key songs missing (looking at you, Glass Onion).  Maybe I need to cheat and do 8 songs per side for a total of 16 -- which would have still fit comfortably on an LP, I think....  or I could pull in the Revolution/Hey Jude single.... sigh.

Lol. I never even considered this, even though I acknowledge it's a fun thing to do.
I would not place Mother's Nature Son and Blackbird so close together though, on one and the same side. To me, they're too much in the same league (in different meanings).
And if I wanted to hear Ringo, I'd pick Good Night, John's lullaby for Julian.

But... to be honest, I like this 'messy' double album just as it is, despite George Martin's remarks. Musically, it's got everything that the 'studio' Beatles had got to give in those years. It's an awesome record.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: jwinter on September 03, 2019, 12:04:58 PM
Quote from: Marc on September 03, 2019, 11:47:35 AM
Lol. I never even considered this, even though I acknowledge it's a fun thing to do.
I would not place Mother's Nature Son and Blackbird so close together though, on one and the same side. To me, they're too much in the same league (in different meanings).
And if I wanted to hear Ringo, I'd pick Good Night, John's lullaby for Julian.

But... to be honest, I like this 'messy' double album just as it is, despite George Martin's remarks. Musically, it's got everything that the 'studio' Beatles had got to give in those years. It's an awesome record.

Yeah, agreed on the proximity of Blackbird and Mother Nature's Son, I definitely need to move one of them to side 2... but then I might end up with too many John songs in a row.  Decisions.

I do love the original album, of course.  This whole exercise is a complete waste of time, but as you say it's amusing and gives me an excuse to revisit the music now and then.  Part of the challenge is to make it like a album they would have released -- so you need to balance Paul vs John, have an opener and a closer for each side, etc., and thus you need a Ringo song -- Don't Pass Me By has never been one of my favorites, but it's slim pickin's here....
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonNZ on September 03, 2019, 08:14:08 PM
I'd take Good Night over Don't Pass Me By as the Ringo track (and as the album closer) . And would replace Happiness is a Warm Gun and Helter Skelter with Yer Blues and Glass Onion.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on September 04, 2019, 10:30:54 AM
Quote from: SimonNZ on September 03, 2019, 08:14:08 PM
I'd take Good Night over Don't Pass Me By as the Ringo track (and as the album closer) . And would replace Happiness is a Warm Gun and Helter Skelter with Yer Blues and Glass Onion.

I would never ever replace Happiness Is A Warm Gun for anything.
It's definitely a Top 10 Beatles song for me.

Again, IMHO there's just too many good stuff to make one vinyl album out of it.
Imagine a Beatles legacy without Piggies! No way! ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on September 30, 2019, 07:17:30 AM
Just picked up the 50th Anniversary release in the local supermarket. The 2019 producer is Giles Martin, the son of George, who produced the original album. Great sound and introductory articles in the booklet:
(//)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on September 30, 2019, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on September 30, 2019, 07:17:30 AM
Just picked up the 50th Anniversary release in the local supermarket. The 2019 producer is Giles Martin, the son of George, who produced the original album. Great sound and introductory articles in the booklet:
(//)

Could not resist, eh? :P

(For the moment I will stick to the 2009 (iirc) release.)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: j winter on September 30, 2019, 10:43:44 AM
[pokes head above foxhole]

Ya know, as an album Abbey Road has never really done if for me.  George's and John's contributions are  strong, but Paul's songs leave me cold here -- the whole montage on side 2 is just not my cuppa tea.

Other than Come Together and Here Comes the Sun, I probably play this album the least of any Beatles album, by a large margin.

[ducks back into foxhole]
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 01, 2019, 12:28:29 AM
Quote from: Marc on September 30, 2019, 09:35:29 AM
Could not resist, eh? :P

(For the moment I will stick to the 2009 (iirc) release.)

Indeed! I thought that it might be rather pricey but it was £7.00 in Tesco, which I didn't think too bad. I managed to smuggle it into the house concealed between packets cornflakes, cat food, tins of rice pudding etc (not really).
:)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Szykneij on October 02, 2019, 01:46:20 AM
Snagged some good seats to see this on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 02, 2019, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: Szykneij on October 02, 2019, 01:46:20 AM
Snagged some good seats to see this on Saturday.
Looks great! Let us know what you think.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 02, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: j winter on September 30, 2019, 10:43:44 AM
[pokes head above foxhole]

Ya know, as an album Abbey Road has never really done if for me.  George's and John's contributions are  strong, but Paul's songs leave me cold here -- the whole montage on side 2 is just not my cuppa tea.

Other than Come Together and Here Comes the Sun, I probably play this album the least of any Beatles album, by a large margin.

[ducks back into foxhole]
Even the Beatles themselves were divided on the merits of Abbey Road. The new booklet is interesting in this respect. I much prefer the long sequence on side 2 of the LP than the earlier songs.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: j winter on October 02, 2019, 11:11:23 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on October 02, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
Even the Beatles themselves were divided on the merits of Abbey Road. The new booklet is interesting in this respect. I much prefer the long sequence on side 2 of the LP than the earlier songs.

Interesting.  I will probably get the remix at some point soon -- I'm a lifelong Beatles fan, so even if I think Abbey Road one of their weaker albums, that still makes it better than a whole lot of other stuff... :)

I'm kinda split on the remixes so far.  I really like what Giles did with Sgt. Pepper, I thought it sounded wonderful.  But then, I think that was largely due to the way that album was made, with all the sampling down necessary to get such complex music onto crude multi-track tape.  Being able to get down to the basic elements, give everything a good digital scrub, and put it back together again, made for an awesome sonic improvement IMO.  The White Album did not impress me as much -- some things I liked, many things I prefer in the original mix -- but then, I never thought the original mix was that bad.  And that's my fear with Abbey Road -- there's nothing wrong with the sound on the latest remaster of the original mix, IMO -- so I'm not sure why they're messing with it.

But I will almost certainly give it a listen soon -- if nothing else, I suspect that a remixed Come Together, with a focus on the drums, might have some merit.  Whether I end up sending Apple yet more of my hard earned cash for yet another physical copy of the album is another question...
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 02, 2019, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: j winter on October 02, 2019, 11:11:23 AM
Interesting.  I will probably get the remix at some point soon -- I'm a lifelong Beatles fan, so even if I think Abbey Road one of their weaker albums, that still makes it better than a whole lot of other stuff... :)

I'm kinda split on the remixes so far.  I really like what Giles did with Sgt. Pepper, I thought it sounded wonderful.  But then, I think that was largely due to the way that album was made, with all the sampling down necessary to get such complex music onto crude multi-track tape.  Being able to get down to the basic elements, give everything a good digital scrub, and put it back together again, made for an awesome sonic improvement IMO.  The White Album did not impress me as much -- some things I liked, many things I prefer in the original mix -- but then, I never thought the original mix was that bad.  And that's my fear with Abbey Road -- there's nothing wrong with the sound on the latest remaster of the original mix, IMO -- so I'm not sure why they're messing with it.

But I will almost certainly give it a listen soon -- if nothing else, I suspect that a remixed Come Together, with a focus on the drums, might have some merit.  Whether I end up sending Apple yet more of my hard earned cash for yet another physical copy of the album is another question...

Thanks for that. Maybe I'll get the remixed Sgt. Pepper at some stage. Sgt Pepper, the White Album and Abbey Road are my favourites but I like all their albums, which were so much a part of my childhood. I saw them twice in concert. I won't say 'heard' as all I heard was screaming.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: j winter on October 03, 2019, 05:38:29 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on October 02, 2019, 10:11:11 PM
Thanks for that. Maybe I'll get the remixed Sgt. Pepper at some stage. Sgt Pepper, the White Album and Abbey Road are my favourites but I like all their albums, which were so much a part of my childhood. I saw them twice in concert. I won't say 'heard' as all I heard was screaming.


OK, I am officially jealous... where'd you see them?  Any specific memories of the concerts?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: San Antone on October 03, 2019, 05:55:44 AM
Except for some individual songs, my favorites are Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's.  While the new remasters are interesting, I am fine with the originals.  Abbey Road never was a fave of mine, it's a good record, just a little episodic for my tastes.

These songs are my favorites from the other albums:

"Across the Universe"
"All You Need Is Love"
"Blackbird"
"Day Tripper"
"Dear Prudence"
"Doctor Robert"
"Drive My Car"
"Hello Goodbye"
"I Am the Walrus"
"I'll Follow the Sun"
"Sexy Sadie"
"Strawberry Fields Forever"
"Things We Said Today"
"Ticket to Ride"
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 03, 2019, 07:53:01 AM
Quote from: j winter on October 03, 2019, 05:38:29 AM

OK, I am officially jealous... where'd you see them?  Any specific memories of the concerts?

Well, yes. One was at the London Palladium and the other was either at Wembley or Hammersmith - I was about 11 or 12. Through a contact of my parents we got tickets for the Premiere of 'Yellow Submarine' where Ringo refused to sign an autograph for me (that was before he's 'officially' stopped signing them).

PS I've just looked up the Hammersmith concert which was in 1964. I was nine years old. I'm sure that was the other one.

PPS the Palladium concert was also 1964. I was younger that I thought!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on October 04, 2019, 07:16:43 AM
Quote from: j winter on September 30, 2019, 10:43:44 AM
[pokes head above foxhole]

Ya know, as an album Abbey Road has never really done if for me.  George's and John's contributions are  strong, but Paul's songs leave me cold here -- the whole montage on side 2 is just not my cuppa tea.

Other than Come Together and Here Comes the Sun, I probably play this album the least of any Beatles album, by a large margin.

[ducks back into foxhole]

I consider the entire side 2 a masterpiece (including 'The Long One'). Just brilliant.
But maybe my fav 3 individual songs of the album are from side 1: Come Together, Something and I Want You (She's So Heavy).
(Maxwell, Darling and Octopus though: well... all right.)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on October 04, 2019, 07:25:31 AM
Quote from: San Antone on October 03, 2019, 05:55:44 AM
Except for some individual songs, my favorites are Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's.  While the new remasters are interesting, I am fine with the originals.  Abbey Road never was a fave of mine, it's a good record, just a little episodic for my tastes.

These songs are my favorites from the other albums:

"Across the Universe"
"All You Need Is Love"
"Blackbird"
"Day Tripper"
"Dear Prudence"
"Doctor Robert"
"Drive My Car"
"Hello Goodbye"
"I Am the Walrus"
"I'll Follow the Sun"
"Sexy Sadie"
"Strawberry Fields Forever"
"Things We Said Today"
"Ticket to Ride"

I fear that I could never come to such a list. Just too much good stuff. ;)
I like the pick of I'll Follow The Sun. Lovely tune. It's a teenage song by Paul, probably influenced by the musical music his father loved.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 04, 2019, 11:14:30 AM
Abbey Road is back on top of the album charts here. The first time since 1970!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: San Antone on October 04, 2019, 12:35:33 PM
Quote from: Marc on October 04, 2019, 07:25:31 AM
I fear that I could never come to such a list. Just too much good stuff. ;)
I like the pick of I'll Follow The Sun. Lovely tune. It's a teenage song by Paul, probably influenced by the musical music his father loved.

Yeah, there is a lot of good stuff, which makes me look for songs that go beyond good, IMO.  My list includes only those songs which I consider truly more than good, and in fact, pristine pop gems (I'll Follow the Sun, Things We Said Today, Blackbird) , or wildly imaginative genre-busting miniatures (Strawberry Fields, I Am the Walrus, Sexy Sadie), that no other band came close to equaling.

I can listen to any of their albums and enjoy the music, whereas for most groups (with some exceptions, Kinks, Beach Boys) of that period I cannot.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonNZ on October 04, 2019, 05:31:42 PM
Just saw this on the Esquire site while looking for something else:

The Best Beatles Song Is a 23-Second Track That Almost Didn't Exist
Thinking about the genius of "Her Majesty" on the 50th anniversary of Abbey Road. (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a29226810/best-beatles-song-her-majesty-abbey-road-50th-anniversary/)

"I'm going to keep this short, because there's beauty in brevity, which The Beatles taught me on "Her Majesty." It's a 23-second-long-song (26 if you look at Spotify) that almost didn't exist. In fact, "Her Majesty" is something of a joke, with nonsensical nursery rhyme lyrics and a sloppy, out of place first note. It's strange, fleeting, and beautiful. It's 23 seconds I've never been able to get out of my head since the first time I heard it—since it surprised me uncredited at the end of Abbey Road, where it came and went like I'd imagined it. I've fallen in love during those 26 seconds (my now-partner and I sharing Cadbury Eggs years ago listening to the back half of Abbey Road in a parking lot in my busted Chevy Blazer). I've drunkenly sang the song. I've played it in one sitting on repeat, dozens of times, fascinated.

"Her Majesty" was recorded in three takes on July 2, 1969. As the story goes, the song was originally intended to be placed in a medley between "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "Polythene Pam." But, according to the engineer there that day, John Kurlander, Paul McCartney (who is the only one who performs on the track) heard "Her Majesty" in that spot and decided it didn't fit. Kurlander was told to cut the song and throw it away. But, as Kurlander later explained:

"I'd been told never to throw anything away, so after he left I picked it up off the floor, put about 20 seconds of red leader tape before it and stuck it onto the end of the edit tape."

The next day, when McCartney heard the song placed randomly at the end of Abbey Road, he loved it, and decided it should remain there on the final cut of the album. That weird blast of a note at the beginning is actually the final chord of "Mean Mr. Mustard." Because of its placement, and because "Her Majesty" didn't appear on the Abbey Road tracklist, it's often considered the first-ever hidden track on an album.

When I was younger, probably because of my personal experiences with "Her Majesty," I always thought of it as a love song—a song about awkwardness around a crush whom you respect enough to refer to as "her majesty." I might have been at once projecting and overthinking it, because, in reality, the song is something of a joke about the British ruling family. These are the only lyrics:

Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / But she doesn't have a lot to say / Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / But she changes from day to day / I want to tell her that I love her a lot / But I gotta get a bellyful of wine / Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / Someday I'm going to make her mine, oh yeah, / Someday I'm going to make her mine.

As McCartney later explained, there's something anti-authority about these lyrics:

"It was quite funny because it's basically monarchist, with a mildly disrespectful tone, but it's very tongue in cheek. It's almost like a love song to the Queen."

This is honestly better than my reading of the song, anyway. "Her Majesty" is punk rock. It's kind of a middle-finger to the establishment, fitting with the scrappy way the song came to be, and how it has survived.

The Beatles are rightfully considered the greatest band to ever exist. Their catalog is immortalized among every fan, musician, and critic still today. Their hits are known in every corner of the world—"Across the Universe" has been launched into space for intelligent life to hear one day. We all can sing "Hey Jude," and "Here Comes the Sun," and "Let it Be" and dozens of others. Each of these songs persevere because of the craft and songwriting genius that it took to create them. But what I love about "Her Majesty" is it could not and will not ever be a famous Beatles song. It's an accident. It's a moment of spontaneity, of playful musicianship stuck in time, of Paul McCartney not trying to do anything more than mess about. Yet here it remains. Here I am writing about it and listening to it and thinking about it. It's a song that only exists today because of luck and the charm of its eight lines and silly little melody. And for that I love it a lot. "Her Majesty" is a pretty nice song, and I feel like I've made it mine.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 04, 2019, 11:41:36 PM
Quote from: SimonNZ on October 04, 2019, 05:31:42 PM
Just saw this on the Esquire site while looking for something else:

The Best Beatles Song Is a 23-Second Track That Almost Didn't Exist
Thinking about the genius of "Her Majesty" on the 50th anniversary of Abbey Road. (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a29226810/best-beatles-song-her-majesty-abbey-road-50th-anniversary/)

"I'm going to keep this short, because there's beauty in brevity, which The Beatles taught me on "Her Majesty." It's a 23-second-long-song (26 if you look at Spotify) that almost didn't exist. In fact, "Her Majesty" is something of a joke, with nonsensical nursery rhyme lyrics and a sloppy, out of place first note. It's strange, fleeting, and beautiful. It's 23 seconds I've never been able to get out of my head since the first time I heard it—since it surprised me uncredited at the end of Abbey Road, where it came and went like I'd imagined it. I've fallen in love during those 26 seconds (my now-partner and I sharing Cadbury Eggs years ago listening to the back half of Abbey Road in a parking lot in my busted Chevy Blazer). I've drunkenly sang the song. I've played it in one sitting on repeat, dozens of times, fascinated.

"Her Majesty" was recorded in three takes on July 2, 1969. As the story goes, the song was originally intended to be placed in a medley between "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "Polythene Pam." But, according to the engineer there that day, John Kurlander, Paul McCartney (who is the only one who performs on the track) heard "Her Majesty" in that spot and decided it didn't fit. Kurlander was told to cut the song and throw it away. But, as Kurlander later explained:

"I'd been told never to throw anything away, so after he left I picked it up off the floor, put about 20 seconds of red leader tape before it and stuck it onto the end of the edit tape."

The next day, when McCartney heard the song placed randomly at the end of Abbey Road, he loved it, and decided it should remain there on the final cut of the album. That weird blast of a note at the beginning is actually the final chord of "Mean Mr. Mustard." Because of its placement, and because "Her Majesty" didn't appear on the Abbey Road tracklist, it's often considered the first-ever hidden track on an album.

When I was younger, probably because of my personal experiences with "Her Majesty," I always thought of it as a love song—a song about awkwardness around a crush whom you respect enough to refer to as "her majesty." I might have been at once projecting and overthinking it, because, in reality, the song is something of a joke about the British ruling family. These are the only lyrics:

Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / But she doesn't have a lot to say / Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / But she changes from day to day / I want to tell her that I love her a lot / But I gotta get a bellyful of wine / Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / Someday I'm going to make her mine, oh yeah, / Someday I'm going to make her mine.

As McCartney later explained, there's something anti-authority about these lyrics:

"It was quite funny because it's basically monarchist, with a mildly disrespectful tone, but it's very tongue in cheek. It's almost like a love song to the Queen."

This is honestly better than my reading of the song, anyway. "Her Majesty" is punk rock. It's kind of a middle-finger to the establishment, fitting with the scrappy way the song came to be, and how it has survived.

The Beatles are rightfully considered the greatest band to ever exist. Their catalog is immortalized among every fan, musician, and critic still today. Their hits are known in every corner of the world—"Across the Universe" has been launched into space for intelligent life to hear one day. We all can sing "Hey Jude," and "Here Comes the Sun," and "Let it Be" and dozens of others. Each of these songs persevere because of the craft and songwriting genius that it took to create them. But what I love about "Her Majesty" is it could not and will not ever be a famous Beatles song. It's an accident. It's a moment of spontaneity, of playful musicianship stuck in time, of Paul McCartney not trying to do anything more than mess about. Yet here it remains. Here I am writing about it and listening to it and thinking about it. It's a song that only exists today because of luck and the charm of its eight lines and silly little melody. And for that I love it a lot. "Her Majesty" is a pretty nice song, and I feel like I've made it mine.
Very interesting. 'Her Majesty' always makes me smile. It is paradoxically disrespectful and affectionate.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on October 05, 2019, 02:18:33 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on October 04, 2019, 11:14:30 AM
Abbey Road is back on top of the album charts here. The first time since 1970!

I read the same about the Netherlands 2 days ago... good music rules!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 05, 2019, 05:56:21 AM
Quote from: Marc on October 05, 2019, 02:18:33 AM
I read the same about the Netherlands 2 days ago... good music rules!
Definitely!  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: San Antone on October 07, 2019, 12:12:45 PM
A song I should have included in my list of favorites:

https://www.youtube.com/v/bJ_OMbWJ46g
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 07, 2019, 01:10:08 PM
I never knew before that Abbey Road was the Beatles last album, because although 'Let it Be' was released after Abbey Road it was actually recorded before it.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
My Favorite Beatles songs:

She Said She Said
Yes It Is
Hey Bulldog
Revolution
Octopus Garden
Tomorrow Never Knows
Dear Prudence
Here Comes the Sun
Only a Northern Song
Good Morning Good Morning
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on August 14, 2020, 06:53:03 AM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
My Favorite Beatles songs:

She Said She Said
Yes It Is
Hey Bulldog
Revolution
Octopus Garden
Tomorrow Never Knows
Dear Prudence
Here Comes the Sun
Only a Northern Song
Good Morning Good Morning

Very interesting to see "Only a Northern Song" in there.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on August 14, 2020, 07:00:24 AM
Just a back-of-the-envelope list of ten faves:

Old Brown Shoe
And Your Bird Can Sing
Long, Long, Long
Penny Lane
I Am the Walrus
All My Loving
A Day in the Life
Cry, Baby, Cry
Day Tripper
Dr Robert

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 07:01:29 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 14, 2020, 06:53:03 AM
Very interesting to see "Only a Northern Song" in there.

It is one of the uniquest songs among the Beatles numbers. It is like Pink Floyd/Syd Barrett rather than the Beatles. Not crazy about the bridge though.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 07:04:13 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 14, 2020, 07:00:24 AM
Just a back-of-the-envelope list of ten faves:

Old Brown Shoe
And Your Bird Can Sing
Long, Long, Long
Penny Lane
I Am the Walrus
All My Loving
A Day in the Life
Cry, Baby, Cry
Day Tripper
Dr Robert

I like them except Tripper and Walrus. I really like Old Brown Shoe.
The link below is a list of Paul's songs John liked.

http://rockandrollgarage.com/9-paul-mccartneys-beatles-songs-that-john-lennon-liked/
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: The new erato on August 14, 2020, 07:15:35 AM
Walrus, Strawberry Fields, A Day in the life, Tomorrow Never knows and Long and Winding Road definitelly belongs in my list. Beyond those, there are so many and my list would change from day to day. Several from Karl Hennings List could appear.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on August 14, 2020, 07:32:42 AM
Rubber Soul and The White Album were pretty easy picks....but the third one?  I ended up picking Help [These 'evil' polls!].

PD
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on August 14, 2020, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 07:01:29 AM
It is one of the uniquest songs among the Beatles numbers. It is like Pink Floyd/Syd Barrett rather than the Beatles. Not crazy about the bridge though.

That's fair.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on August 14, 2020, 11:11:50 AM
Hmmm...among my favorites (off the top of my head):

While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Old Brown Shoe
Dear Prudence
In My Life
Back in the USSR
Octopus's Garden
A Day in the Life
Here Comes the Sun
Penny Lane
Blackbird
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on August 14, 2020, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 14, 2020, 07:32:42 AM
Rubber Soul and The White Album were pretty easy picks....but the third one?  I ended up picking Help [These 'evil' polls!].

PD

(* chortle *)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on August 14, 2020, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 14, 2020, 11:11:50 AM
Hmmm...among my favorites (off the top of my head):

While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Old Brown Shoe
Dear Prudence
In My Life
Back in the USSR
Octopus's Garden
A Day in the Life
Here Comes the Sun
Penny Lane
Blackbird

Nice, too!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on August 14, 2020, 11:57:09 AM
How could I have forgotten Eleanor Rigby?!   ???

PD
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 12:43:08 PM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 14, 2020, 11:57:09 AM
How could I have forgotten Eleanor Rigby?!   ???

PD

That is one of the songs I don't dig much. It is just a personal preference and I am not questioning the quality of song. Others include Shes leaving home, 64, she loves you, its only love, Here there, I should have known better, your mother should know, Run for your life, etc.

Re: Penny Lane. Some people are advocating a name change of the street because is is possibly the name of a slave trader. Regardless of the fact, Paul may decide not to sing the song.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 14, 2020, 11:11:50 AM
Hmmm...among my favorites (off the top of my head):

While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Old Brown Shoe
Dear Prudence
In My Life
Back in the USSR
Octopus's Garden
A Day in the Life
Here Comes the Sun
Penny Lane
Blackbird

Great list!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Papy Oli on August 14, 2020, 01:14:37 PM
The Abbey Road Medley  :P
A Day in the Life
Being for the benefit of Mr Kite
8 days a week
I feel fine
Dear Prudence
Bungalow Bill
Honey Pie
Helter Skelter
Blackbird
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on August 14, 2020, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 14, 2020, 11:57:09 AM
How could I have forgotten Eleanor Rigby?!   ???

PD

When I was a tike, I had a "Close-and-play" phonograph, and the single that came with it was "Yellow Submarine" b/w "Eleanor Rigby"
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on August 14, 2020, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 12:43:08 PM
That is one of the songs I don't dig much. It is just a personal preference and I am not questioning the quality of song. Others include Shes leaving home, 64, she loves you, its only love, Here there, I should have known better, your mother should know, Run for your life, etc.

Re: Penny Lane. Some people are advocating a name change of the street because is is possibly the name of a slave trader. Regardless of the fact, Paul may decide not to sing the song.

FWIW, the monaural reissue rehabilitated "She's leaving home" for me.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 14, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
My Favorite Beatles songs:

She Said She Said
Yes It Is
Hey Bulldog
Revolution
Octopus Garden
Tomorrow Never Knows
Dear Prudence
Here Comes the Sun
Only a Northern Song
Good Morning Good Morning

I forgot Good Night 😲😲 Lovely song!

As for Dear Prudence, I prefer the siouxsie and the banshees version to the Beatles.

https://youtu.be/M6rrTROoZIw (https://youtu.be/M6rrTROoZIw)

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on December 21, 2020, 07:03:11 AM
A question just occurred to me. (I also wonder why it took so long to cross my mind.)

Do we know who played the violin/fiddle on "Don't Pass Me By"?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Mirror Image on December 21, 2020, 07:11:33 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 21, 2020, 07:03:11 AM
A question just occurred to me. (I also wonder why it took so long to cross my mind.)

Do we know who played the violin/fiddle on "Don't Pass Me By"?

According to Wikipedia, here's the lineup:

Ringo Starr – double-tracked vocals, drums, tack piano, sleigh bells, cowbell, maracas, congas
Paul McCartney – grand piano, bass guitar
Jack Fallon – violin
The pianos were both recorded into a Leslie 147 speaker.

Personnel per Ian MacDonald and supported by Mark Lewisohn
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: DaveF on December 22, 2020, 01:36:02 AM
I once spent an entire 2½-hour car journey with my son, then aged 10, trying to decide what our favourites were on Sgt. Pepper (those were the days - 7 years on, he refuses to listen to anything that wasn't composed within the last 10 minutes).  The final results were Lucy in the sky with diamonds (son) and Fixing a hole (me) - a chilled-out hippie dirge versus a tightly-controlled classically-influenced ballad.

Picking ten favourites always runs the risk of missing something obvious, but here goes:

For no-one
Hard day's night
Yesterday (although I do wish someone had told Paul not to breathe between "she" and "had")
Fixing a hole
No reply
Blackbird
Dear Prudence
Here comes the sun
It's all too much
I want you (mostly for the endless play-out - I have a friend who claims to know exactly when it's going to stop - not sure I believe him).
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on December 22, 2020, 01:01:18 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 14, 2020, 03:58:53 PM
When I was a tike, I had a "Close-and-play" phonograph, and the single that came with it was "Yellow Submarine" b/w "Eleanor Rigby"
Well, I won't mention what my playing situation was like...lol.  But seriously, the more that I listened to "Eleanor Rigby" over the years, it really hit me emotionally....about all of the people in the world who live alone and wondering whether or not their passing means anything to anyone?  Not just that, but of living a life alone.  There are so many stories that I've heard over the years of people not knowing their neighbors, etc.,.  Are there any others here who appreciate this song?

PD
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on December 22, 2020, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on December 21, 2020, 07:11:33 AM
According to Wikipedia, here's the lineup:

Ringo Starr – double-tracked vocals, drums, tack piano, sleigh bells, cowbell, maracas, congas
Paul McCartney – grand piano, bass guitar
Jack Fallon – violin
The pianos were both recorded into a Leslie 147 speaker.

Personnel per Ian MacDonald and supported by Mark Lewisohn

Thanks.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on December 22, 2020, 04:31:06 PM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on December 22, 2020, 01:01:18 PM
Well, I won't mention what my playing situation was like...lol.  But seriously, the more that I listened to "Eleanor Rigby" over the years, it really hit me emotionally....about all of the people in the world who live alone and wondering whether or not their passing means anything to anyone?  Not just that, but of living a life alone.  There are so many stories that I've heard over the years of people not knowing their neighbors, etc.,.  Are there any others here who appreciate this song?

PD

Yes, indeed.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: DaveF on December 23, 2020, 02:45:11 AM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on December 22, 2020, 01:01:18 PM
... the more that I listened to "Eleanor Rigby" over the years, it really hit me emotionally....about all of the people in the world who live alone and wondering whether or not their passing means anything to anyone?  Not just that, but of living a life alone.  There are so many stories that I've heard over the years of people not knowing their neighbors, etc.,.  Are there any others here who appreciate this song?

PD

To my ears, it's a great song given a terrible performance - that monotonous rubato-free thudding accompaniment, Paul's rushed and uninvolved delivery of the lyrics (great lyrics - "Wearing the face that she keeps in the jar by the door" - brilliant).  Sadly, the recording on Revolver is the only one I know (there's a strings-only take on one of the Anthology albums, but that goes at the same relentless pace). Clearly they couldn't perform it live.  Slowed down a bit, to give Paul time to breathe and to allow the strings to sound a bit less like they're chopping wood, it would have been perfect.  I find the slightly distanced, cinematographic approach works well in For no one (but then I would say that; that's my favourite song not only on Revolver but on any Beatles album), but not in Eleanor Rigby
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on December 23, 2020, 07:37:10 AM
I think the non-involved delivery makes for light-footed dramatic irony. I actually find it part of the track's power. Your
"chopping wood" criticism stands ... likely stems from having a string quartet try to sound like a pop group, rather than being themselves.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on December 23, 2020, 12:03:29 PM
Interesting comments regarding Eleanor Rigby.  I wonder if part of the fast/"rushed" to DaveF was done on purpose...thinking here of them thinking that there are so many many people who live alone/are lonely/are ignored by society/have few if any friends that the list could go on and on.  For me, the pace that it's at, leaves me breathless and feeling rather stunned...and makes me think.

PD
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonNZ on December 23, 2020, 01:10:06 PM
McCartney does another not very different version in the Give My Regards To Broad Street film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3rG4vm06kE


Looking into other versions I see that I'd forgotten that Aretha Franklin did one

and hadn't previously lnown that Joan Baez did one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q51A0k-VcbU
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: steve ridgway on December 23, 2020, 09:15:32 PM
The only one I get to hear comes up occasionally on the web radio -

I Drive - Classic Rigby, Parts 1 & 2 (1972) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_aGFWk5QtY)

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's any good. ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: DaveF on December 24, 2020, 05:56:36 AM
Quote from: steve ridgway on December 23, 2020, 09:15:32 PM
The only one I get to hear comes up occasionally on the web radio -

I Drive - Classic Rigby, Parts 1 & 2 (1972) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_aGFWk5QtY)

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's any good. ;)

Au contraire, it's absolutely brilliant and deserves an immediate cross-posting on the LvB thread.

The version from Give my Regards... has the same timing, to the second, as the one on Revolver, yet manages to sound more relaxed and spacious.  Something to do, perhaps, with the strings being a bit more recessed and less aggressive.

The problem is mine alone, I'm sure.  Maybe because Rigby gets all the recognition and praise when my favourite on the same album is almost completely ignored.  I also worry about the "Fr. Mackenzie" story - do priests really compose sermons that won't get delivered? (Or delivered in a completely empty church?) The priests I know are always enormously grateful for the odd bit of solitude away from their parishioners that they can manage to find.  Perhaps things were different in the '60s.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: steve ridgway on December 24, 2020, 06:08:19 AM
Quote from: DaveF on December 24, 2020, 05:56:36 AM
Maybe because Rigby gets all the recognition and praise when my favourite on the same album is almost completely ignored. I also worry about the "Fr. Mackenzie" story - do priests really compose sermons that won't get delivered? (Or delivered in a completely empty church?)

Tomorrow Never Knows is the only Beatles song I actually love but must have influenced a tremendous number of experimental / industrial artists. Priests nowadays must surely compose sermons a few days in advance only to receive a day or two's notice that churches are closed again. I guess they'd just save them for later though.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on December 24, 2020, 07:56:12 AM
Separately:

https://www.youtube.com/v/u3wFv_UO_50
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on December 24, 2020, 07:58:20 AM
Quote from: SimonNZ on December 23, 2020, 01:10:06 PM
McCartney does another not very different version in the Give My Regards To Broad Street film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3rG4vm06kE
Thanks for the link to the McCartney video clip; really enjoyed that!  :)

PD
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on November 04, 2023, 01:17:10 PM
Not sure how I feel about this "Now and Then" jiggery-pokery.

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on November 04, 2023, 03:31:10 PM
Quote from: Karl Henning on November 04, 2023, 01:17:10 PMNot sure how I feel about this "Now and Then" jiggery-pokery.


Have you watched the video (It's available on youtube)?

Initially, I probably had some of the mixed feelings that you did upon hearing about the project.  After watching the video that you provided, I thought that it sounded like they were doing something special.  I then watched the video of the actual completed song and found it to be quite moving.  Do give it a go (if you haven't already).  And let us know what you think of it.


PD

p.s.  I'm amazed at the technology that Peter J. came up with to separate out John's voice and the tenacity that everyone had to stick with and then resurrect the project when the new technology became available.  Bittersweet.

The video/song felt like a tribute to Paul and Ringo's former bandmates and to the history that they created together.  And a big thank you and acknowledgement of them (and each other). Also, loved the clips of them and photos over the years. 
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on November 04, 2023, 03:47:05 PM
To me, Free As A Bird sounds better. The visual is good though.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on November 04, 2023, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on November 04, 2023, 03:47:05 PMTo me, Free As A Bird sounds better. The visual is good though.
I see that (according to Wiki) that there have been a total of three songs that have been released since John's death and that Yoko Ono gave them to the remaining members when asked if she had any of his music which the ex-Beatles could contribute to.  I haven't heard "Free as a Bird" nor "Real Love" yet.  Out of the Beatles news loop I guess.  :(

PD
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on November 04, 2023, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 04, 2023, 04:42:19 PMI see that (according to Wiki) that there have been a total of three songs that have been released since John's death and that Yoko Ono gave them to the remaining members when asked if she had any of his music which the ex-Beatles could contribute to.  I haven't heard "Free as a Bird" nor "Real Love" yet.  Out of the Beatles news loop I guess.  :(

PD
Curious to say, I've not heard the Beatles ur-Text, but a King Crimson cover of "Free As a Bird."
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on November 04, 2023, 05:15:56 PM
Quote from: Karl Henning on November 04, 2023, 04:59:36 PMCurious to say, I've not heard the Beatles ur-Text, but a King Crimson cover of "Free As a Bird."
Interesting!  Well, the other two songs (or is it a total of 4...a bit confused upon quickly reading the Wiki article) are on youtube (official Beatles' channel).  Just watched them.

PD

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Karl Henning on November 04, 2023, 05:53:01 PM
Before actually listening to "Now and Then," there was some cynicism lurking in the back of my mind, because back when the Beatles were active, they were chart-toppers and daring innovators, where now, perforce, they're a wistful nostalgia act. I'm not saying anything against Ringo and Macca in this, just noting the fact. But in the back of my mind, at first, it was a little obstacle which needed obliterating.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on November 04, 2023, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: Karl Henning on November 04, 2023, 05:53:01 PMBefore actually listening to "Now and Then," there was some cynicism lurking in the back of my mind, because back when the Beatles were active, they were chart-toppers and daring innovators, where now, perforce, they're a wistful nostalgia act. I'm not saying anything against Ringo and Macca in this, just noting the fact. But in the back of my mind, at first, it was a little obstacle which needed obliterating.

If they redo Across the Universe, it will be great. As for the poll result, I think For Sale is a solid, if somewhat dark, album. Free As a Bird is below.


Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on November 06, 2023, 09:45:14 AM
The Guardian readers' comments on Now and Then.


https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/nov/06/beatles-now-and-then-readers?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: relm1 on November 07, 2023, 05:45:51 AM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 04, 2023, 03:31:10 PMHave you watched the video (It's available on youtube)?

Initially, I probably had some of the mixed feelings that you did upon hearing about the project.  After watching the video that you provided, I thought that it sounded like they were doing something special.  I then watched the video of the actual completed song and found it to be quite moving.  Do give it a go (if you haven't already).  And let us know what you think of it.


PD

p.s.  I'm amazed at the technology that Peter J. came up with to separate out John's voice and the tenacity that everyone had to stick with and then resurrect the project when the new technology became available.  Bittersweet.

The video/song felt like a tribute to Paul and Ringo's former bandmates and to the history that they created together.  And a big thank you and acknowledgement of them (and each other). Also, loved the clips of them and photos over the years. 

I thought that old guy could pass for George Harrison he looked so much like him till I realized that was him!  I thought he died young but it seems he blends in to the remaining Beatles perfectly...seemed to have lived a long, full life though he died almost twenty years ago.  It was a very nostalgic experience to hear a new Beatles song for the first time in my life.  Sure times have changed but it's hard not to be reflective when hearing/seeing this. 
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Brian on November 07, 2023, 06:12:51 AM
Wow - that exceeded my expectation in some ways. It really packs an emotional punch - the lyrics are simple, the music is good, Paul's backing vocal is very subtle and modest and perfect. Today's studio productions are so overlaid with different layers of effect that having John sound like he's in a different acoustic space is perfectly normal rather than jarring. The one thing I disliked has to do with that modern sound: too many strings, too many wordless synth singers going "woo," it feels like there was a simpler completion that would have put the focus more on the original quartet.

I wonder how much the emotion of the lyrics would work if we didn't know the Beatles' backstory and the spooky fact of John singing from the grave. It is hauntingly written, but very simple.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on November 07, 2023, 06:25:38 AM
Quote from: Brian on November 07, 2023, 06:12:51 AMWow - that exceeded my expectation in some ways. It really packs an emotional punch - the lyrics are simple, the music is good, Paul's backing vocal is very subtle and modest and perfect. Today's studio productions are so overlaid with different layers of effect that having John sound like he's in a different acoustic space is perfectly normal rather than jarring. The one thing I disliked has to do with that modern sound: too many strings, too many wordless synth singers going "woo," it feels like there was a simpler completion that would have put the focus more on the original quartet.

I wonder how much the emotion of the lyrics would work if we didn't know the Beatles' backstory and the spooky fact of John singing from the grave. It is hauntingly written, but very simple.
I enjoyed 'Now and Then' and was very moved by the Peter Jackson film - especially the image of the iconic Beatles Ludwig drum kit on stage, by itself, at the end of the song. I heard much more than I did when, as a young boy, my mother kindly took me to two Beatles concerts in London, when all I heard was screaming.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on November 07, 2023, 06:35:16 AM
Quote from: relm1 on November 07, 2023, 05:45:51 AMI thought that old guy could pass for George Harrison he looked so much like him till I realized that was him!  I thought he died young but it seems he blends in to the remaining Beatles perfectly...seemed to have lived a long, full life though he died almost twenty years ago.  It was a very nostalgic experience to hear a new Beatles song for the first time in my life.  Sure times have changed but it's hard not to be reflective when hearing/seeing this. 
"Old guy"!  :o He would have been about 51 there (1994); he died at 58, so not exactly old age [She said to the young whipper-snapper.]  ;)  ;D

PD
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: relm1 on November 08, 2023, 05:41:14 AM
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 07, 2023, 06:35:16 AM"Old guy"!  :o He would have been about 51 there (1994); he died at 58, so not exactly old age [She said to the young whipper-snapper.]  ;)  ;D

PD

Wow, he was only 51?  He aged fast looking much older than his years.  I guess that's normal for rock stars and 19th century composers.