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Title: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: ChamberNut on November 06, 2008, 12:35:31 PM
Well, yet another visit to the local library today....and I made a great discovery!!

I grabbed a Hyperion label CD of a composer whose name I had never heard of.  His name being Samuel Coleridge-Taylor, born in London, England.

I just finished listening to his Opus 1 Piano Quintet in G minor, and was floored!!  It's fantastic.

The Nash Ensemble CD also includes the apparently wonderful Clarinet Quintet in F sharp minor, Op. 10, and the Ballade in C minor, Op. 73 for violin and piano.

He died of pneumonia at the young age of 37.  Many of his works have only just been recently published.

I thought I'd start his own "Composer's Thread".

I would welcome any recommendations of his works and performances thereof, and any other information.

Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: SonicMan46 on November 06, 2008, 05:22:23 PM
Hello Ray  -  :)  On a long weekend trip to the Carolina shore, but brought a laptop along & have 'wireless' in the room (spouse is quite happy!).

Believe that I have that disc mentioned - CHECK HERE (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,9.msg156719.html#msg156719) - just a few comments in the 'listening thread' - have not explored him any further since that post - so lookin' forward to more discussion here!  Dave   :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: ChamberNut on November 06, 2008, 05:33:33 PM
Hello Ray  -  :)  On a long weekend trip to the Carolina shore, but brought a laptop along & have 'wireless' in the room (spouse is quite happy!).

Believe that I have that disc mentioned - CHECK HERE (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,9.msg156719.html#msg156719) - just a few comments in the 'listening thread' - have not explored him any further since that post - so lookin' forward to more discussion here!  Dave   :)

Thanks for that link Dave.  Yup, that's the one.  Both the Piano Quintet and Clarinet Quintet are fantastic late romantic works.   :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Dundonnell on November 06, 2008, 06:20:00 PM
Coleridge-Taylor's father was from Sierra Leone and his mother was English so he was known as the first British "black composer" and the "African Mahler".

His Oratorio "Hiawatha's Wedding Feast" used to be a staple of choral societies here and is a marvellously warm-hearted, lyrical work! It is the first part of a trilogy of oratorios called 'Scenes from The Song of Hiawatha' but the other two parts are not so memorable.

The Symphony in A minor(on a Classico cd) is pretty feeble, in my opinion, but the Violin Concerto has been recorded a number of times and is a very pleasant work in the Romantic tradition, Dvorakian I suppose you would call it(I have the Hyperion disc with Anthony Marwood as soloist, coupling is Arthur Somervell's Violin Concerto).

A fine composer whose life was sadly too short!
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Brian on November 06, 2008, 07:54:37 PM
You, sir, have just got to hear his fabulous violin concerto - admittedly the outer movements are "typical" romantic-era stuff, but that slow movement is meltingly beautiful. One of those rare moments where I've thought, "Where has this music been all my life?!"

It's also worth seeking out W E B Du Bois' essay about Coleridge-Taylor, though his main concern is using C-T's life as an argument for racial equality. But an interesting account of his life and reception in Britain. :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Dundonnell on November 07, 2008, 06:29:37 AM
The Violin Concerto is indeed a delightful work....but don't forget to try 'Hiawatha's Wedding Feast' too :) You will be amazed at how such a tuneful and incredibly attractive work should have disappeared from the repertoire! For two or three decades it ranked with Handel's Messiah and Mendelssohn's Elijah as the most popular choral work in Britain.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 16, 2012, 10:56:10 AM
Currently listening to Coleridge-Taylor's Violin Concerto for the first time:
http://www.youtube.com/v/5jnX_W4YWOU

This is the first piece of Coleridge-Taylor's music I have heard, and - Wow, this is absolutely beautiful music. So romantic, and so lyrical, charming and poetic. I really enjoyed this piece very much. So, what does everyone else think of his music? I barely see his name mentioned at all...

I am very keen to listen to more of his music! :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Brian on September 16, 2012, 11:00:20 AM
Currently listening to Coleridge-Taylor's Violin Concerto for the first time:
This is the first piece of Coleridge-Taylor's music I have heard, and - Wow, this is absolutely beautiful music. So romantic, and so lyrical, charming and poetic. I really enjoyed this piece very much. So, what does everyone else think of his music? I barely see his name mentioned at all...

I am very keen to listen to more of his music! :)
The slow movement of that concerto is especially memorable! Nearly unforgettable in fact. I know there is also a Hyperion CD of his chamber music, which I heard many years ago on a library check-out but do not remember.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 16, 2012, 11:05:40 AM
The slow movement of that concerto is especially memorable! Nearly unforgettable in fact. I know there is also a Hyperion CD of his chamber music, which I heard many years ago on a library check-out but do not remember.

Oh, absolutely. The slow movement was exquisite. The piece has just come to an end, what a heartfelt ending full of desire and beauty. This really is a great work, I have really really enjoyed it, and am repeating sections now. Now to get everyone else to listen to it! ;)
Yes, on looking on amazon for his works, I see that Hyperion cd which looks tempting! I'll certainly be wanting to own a recording of the violin concerto, and that Naxos cd of his orchestral works looks very nice too. :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 16, 2012, 11:36:06 AM
Yes, on looking on amazon for his works, I see that Hyperion cd which looks tempting! I'll certainly be wanting to own a recording of the violin concerto, and that Naxos cd of his orchestral works looks very nice too. :)
They are both very good (if by Naxos you mean the Marco Polo disc).
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 16, 2012, 11:40:41 AM
They are both very good (if by Naxos you mean the Marco Polo disc).

Thanks for the feedback, Neal. Yes, this one:


Have had a listen to the Amazon excerpts, and they sound absolutely delightful. The Hiawatha Overture in particular sounds very beautiful.

Also, in terms of the violin concerto, it is the Marwood (BBCSSO/Brabbins) that I have been listening to for the last 2 hours, which is absolutely wonderful. I see there are two other recordings, how do they compare? :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Brian on September 16, 2012, 11:43:20 AM
Also, in terms of the violin concerto, it is the Marwood (BBCSSO/Brabbins) that I have been listening to for the last 2 hours, which is absolutely wonderful. I see there are two other recordings, how do they compare? :)

I have the recording from South Africa with Graffin, and it's quite good, but not so good that you should run out and buy it instead of Marwood's (especially since the pairing is the much more common Dvorak). I don't know the third recording, but McAslan is a very good violinist and the coupling of the Romance makes it tempting, since that is a good piece too.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 16, 2012, 11:47:28 AM
Thanks for the feedback, Neal. Yes, this one:


Have had a listen to the Amazon excerpts, and they sound absolutely delightful. The Hiawatha Overture in particular sounds very beautiful.

Also, in terms of the violin concerto, it is the Marwood (BBCSSO/Brabbins) that I have been listening to for the last 2 hours, which is absolutely wonderful. I see there are two other recordings, how do they compare? :)
Hiawatha is excellent indeed. I have a couple more discs with wth a few of his pieces, but I've enjoyed absolutely everything I've heard.

Marwood is the only one I know. I've heard good things about the one on Lyrita.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 16, 2012, 12:03:13 PM
Thanks Brian and Neal for the feedback. I'll probably get Marwood's first, I'm still listening to it on youtube after 3 hours!!! It's just such a beautiful work! :) Yes, I can imagine the McAslan being very good too, and as you say, Brian, the full Coleridge-Taylor programme makes it even more tempting.

Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 16, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
Thanks Brian and Neal for the feedback. I'll probably get Marwood's first, I'm still listening to it on youtube after 3 hours!!! It's just such a beautiful work! :) Yes, I can imagine the McAslan being very good too, and as you say, Brian, the full Coleridge-Taylor programme makes it even more tempting.
Petite Suite is probably my second favorite after the concerto - you may have heard that one (it's on the Naxos disc). There is also a symphony that can be found separately or from this box (it's a student work, which may still interest you - I really enjoyed it):


Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 17, 2012, 08:55:23 AM
Thanks for the feedback, Neal. Yes, I heard a few excerpts from the Petite Suite on Amazon, sounds like a delightful work! Shall also be interested to hear that symphony. :)

Currently listening to the violin concerto again, such an incredibly beautiful, exquisite work! :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 19, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
I have been listening to the violin concerto so much since discovering it a few days ago, always listening to the slow movement and the last few minutes of the finale. It's just such a divine, beautiful work! :)  0:)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 19, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
I have been listening to the violin concerto so much since discovering it a few days ago, always listening to the slow movement and the last few minutes of the finale. It's just such a divine, beautiful work! :)  0:)
You may enjoy reading about him. Hyperion have two discs of his - the pdf files to the booklets are available at the site (including the violin concerto you have been enjoying).
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 20, 2012, 09:34:20 AM
You may enjoy reading about him. Hyperion have two discs of his - the pdf files to the booklets are available at the site (including the violin concerto you have been enjoying).

Neal, thank you very much for telling me of this. I shall make sure to take a look. :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: SonicMan46 on January 30, 2014, 10:24:38 AM
BOY, I made one post here back in 2008 - just had the Piano & Clarinet Quintets, more recently, I added the Violin Concerto & 24 Negro Melodies; today, Hiawatha arrived (below quoted a post left in the listening thread) - I can see (i.e. hear) the popularity of this oratorio back then - mainly chorus w/ intermingled 'solos' (done well especially by Terfel); beautiful music; the 3 parts are: 1) Hiawatha's Wedding Feast; 2) The Death of Minnehaha; and 3) Hiawatha's Departure.  Dave :)

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Coleridge-Taylor, Samuel (1875-1912) - Hiawatha w/ Kenneth Alwyn, Welsh Orchestra/Chorus, and three soloists, including Bryn Terfel - just finished the short Kindle bio on the composer ('Black Mahler' was a nicknamed given him on his first visit to America) below - his 3-part oratorio based on Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's writings seemed to have been one of the most popular choral works around England in the early 20th century - 2 CDs about 2 hrs long - purchased used off the Amazon MP - several short reviews reprinted HERE (http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=142688) - Dave :)

(http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-3BrnTwq/0/O/C_Taylor_Hiawatha.jpg)  (http://www.blackmahler.com/wpimages/wpe1b68791_01_06.jpg)

(http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-LB6n7BL/0/O/CTaylor_ViolinConc.jpg)  (http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-pft34m6/0/O/CTaylor_Piano.jpg)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 30, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
BOY, I made one post here back in 2008 - just had the Piano & Clarinet Quintets, more recently, I added the Violin Concerto & 24 Negro Melodies; today, Hiawatha arrived (below quoted a post left in the listening thread) - I can see (i.e. hear) the popularity of this oratorio back then - mainly chorus w/ intermingled 'solos' (done well especially by Terfel); beautiful music; the 3 parts are: 1) Hiawatha's Wedding Feast; 2) The Death of Minnehaha; and 3) Hiawatha's Departure.  Dave :)

(http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-LB6n7BL/0/O/CTaylor_ViolinConc.jpg)  (http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-pft34m6/0/O/CTaylor_Piano.jpg)
I was particularly interested in your Hiawatha find as I really enjoy his works and have been adding a disc or two each year. I never realized the overture, which I know and love, had more to it. That looks like a very interesting one and it gets some great reviews too. It's been wishlisted.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: SonicMan46 on January 30, 2014, 02:56:11 PM
I was particularly interested in your Hiawatha find as I really enjoy his works and have been adding a disc or two each year. I never realized the overture, which I know and love, had more to it. That looks like a very interesting one and it gets some great reviews too. It's been wishlisted.

Hi Neal - loved my first listening of Hiawatha (need to wait until Susan is out of the house to 'pump up' the volume!) - now understand why the work was so popular - BTW, the book I mentioned previously is a cheap $2 Kindle purchase - it's 'historical fiction' (no references, footnotes, et al) and was based mainly on books & notes from his immediate family members - a very atmospheric presentation of late Victorian England and for me a much clearer picture of this choral trilogy's reasons for popularity.  Dave :)
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Scion7 on November 10, 2015, 04:38:59 AM
to be correct, the NY musicians gave him the nickname "African Mahler" ...
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912) - some works list info
Post by: Scion7 on November 10, 2015, 04:42:34 AM
Chamber Works with Opus number, where assigned:

   1        Pf Qnt, g, c1893, unpubd
   —      Cl Sonata, f, c1893, unpubd
   2        Nonet, f, pf, vn, va, vc, db, ob, cl, hn, bn, 1893, unpubd
   3        Suite de [4] pièces, vn, pf/org, 1893: Pastorale, Cavatina, Barcarolle, Contemplation
   —      Pf Trio, e, 1893, unpubd
   —      Sonata, c, pf, ?1893
   5        [5] Fantasiestücke, str qt, 1895 (1922): Prelude, Serenade, Humoreske, Minuet, Dance
   9        2 Romantic Pieces, vn, pf, ?1895: Lament, Merrymaking
   10     Cl Qnt, f (Leipzig, 1895)
   13     Str Qt, d, 1896, unpubd
   16     [3] Hiawathan Sketches, vn, pf, 1896: A Tale, A Song, A Dance
   19     2 Moorish Tone-Pictures, pf (1897): Andalla, Zarifa
   19/1  2 Oriental Waltzes, pf (1905)
   20     Gipsy Suite, 4 pieces, vn, pf (1897): Lament and Tambourine, A Gipsy Song, A Gipsy Dance, Waltz
   23     Valse Caprice, vn, pf (1898)
   28     Vn Sonata, d, ?1898, ed. A. Sammons (1917)
   31    Humoresques, pf, 1897: D, g, A
   —    3 Short Pieces, org (1898): Melody, Elegy, Arietta
   35    African Suite, pf (1898): 1 Introduction, 2 A Negro Love Song, 3 A Valse, 4 Dance nègre [no.4 originally for pf, str qt]
   38    3 Silhouettes, pf, 1897: Valse, Tambourine, Lament
   41/2  Nourmahal's Song and Dance, pf (1900)
   55    Moorish Dance, pf (1904)
   56   [3] Cameos, pf (1904): F, d, G
   58   4 African Dances, vn, pf (1904): g, F, A, d
   59/2  Romance, vn, pf (1904)
   64   [4] Scènes de ballet, pf (1906): C, A, A, B
   66   [5] Forest Scenes, pf (1907): The lone forest maiden, The phantom lover arrives,
                    The phantom tells his tale of longing, Erstwhile they ride – the forest maiden
   —    Papillon, pf (1908)
   71   Three-fours, Valse Suite, pf (1909): a, A, g, D, E, c
   73   Ballade, c, vn, pf, Leeds, 29 Oct 1907
   —    Variations on an Original Theme, vc, Croydon, 30 Nov 1907, unpubd
   —    2 Impromptus, pf (1911): A, b
   78   3 Impromptus, org (1913): F, C, a
   —   Variations, b, vc, pf (1918)
   —   Interlude, org

I know the String Quartet was rescued somehow and issued on CD.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: VonStupp on July 13, 2021, 08:32:25 AM
I was certain with orchestras making a big diversity push in programming, that we would see more of Samuel Coleridge-Taylor. In my area though, none so far. A little bit of Florence Price, William Grant Still, Duke Ellington, and some others.

Aside from Hiawatha, I do like his Symphonic Varations on an African Air, op. 63, which wafts a bit of a Dvořák-ian aroma. It doesn't hit the same heights as Dvořák, but it is well worth knowing.

Samuel Coleridge-Taylor

The Song of Hiawatha, op. 30
Helen Field, Arthur Davies, Bryn Terfel
Welsh National Opera Chorus & Orchestra - Kenneth Alwyn

Symphonic Varations on an African Air, op. 63
Royal Liverpool Philharmonic - Grant Llewellyn


(https://ia801408.us.archive.org/29/items/mbid-f9917a48-44fd-4597-83c0-a4c3060e11a0/mbid-f9917a48-44fd-4597-83c0-a4c3060e11a0-29658745733.jpg)


A bit of a dusty Victorian oratorio, Hiawatha is 3 Acts and nearly 2 hours of wall-to-wall, robust symphonic choral singing, following a small portion of Longfellow's epic poem. With orchestras scrambling to push diversity into their programming, I wonder if we will see any of this music appear again.

'Hiawatha's Wedding Feast' is the more popular section; all of his countless modulations are exciting, but the tenor solo sounds like an orchestrated parlour song to me. It is too bad no one records the other sections - 'Death of Minnehaha' and 'Hiawatha's Departure'. Coleridge-Taylor carries some pretty decent melodic themes throughout the runtime. The Act II tale is more tragic opposite the opening's celebrations, and the final Act is a decent feature for Helen Field and Bryn Terfel.

I was unfamiliar with Coleridge-Taylor's Symphonic Variations on an African Air, and this is where I can hear the similarities made with Dvořák. His small output of orchestral music seems assured for such a short life, not to mention what I assume was a tough station to hold in his life.

It's good that the one truly complete recording of this oratorio is such a good one from these Welsh ensembles. I don't know how much I will return to it, but I enjoyed my time listening.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Roasted Swan on July 13, 2021, 11:28:16 AM
I was certain with orchestras making a big diversity push in programming, that we would see more of Samuel Coleridge-Taylor. In my area though, none so far. A little bit of Florence Price, William Grant Still, Duke Ellington, and some others.

Aside from Hiawatha, I do like his Symphonic Varations on an African Air, op. 63, which wafts a bit of a Dvořák-ian aroma. It doesn't hit the same heights as Dvořák, but it is well worth knowing.

At the risk of offending people my ears objectively tell me that Coleridge-Taylor is a competent not great composer.  But I'd say the same about Florence Price.  Duke Ellington is clearly a different case/calibre - who once said that Duke Ellington was America's greatest composer?  I do understand that there are elements of discrimination against these composers on account of race or gender and as such their struggle against that is to be celebrated.  But a hundred years later we are left with the Art itself not the context of its creation.  Is later Beethoven even better than it is because he was deaf or do we just accept it as great?  Do we sit there saying of the late string quartets; "they are even better than you think they are because the guy who wrote them couldn't hear a note".  I'd say not.   I understand this is a touchy and sensitive subject but that is not a reason to avoid a debate......

The cynical side of me says this music is now being programmed NOT because anyone thinks it is of especial merit but simply to be seen to be programming it and therefore promoting the idea that CM is inclusive and relevant.  I'm not saying for a second that the historical fact that people were marginalised on the basis of race or gender was a good thing but it is simply how it was.  We have to change things going forward , we cannot be hostages to history - instead we should learn from it.  Saying CM is the provenance of dead white men is a bit like saying organised religion - any religion - was the domain of influential educated men too.  It was - learn from that, change things and move forward.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Mirror Image on July 13, 2021, 11:34:59 AM
At the risk of offending people my ears objectively tell me that Coleridge-Taylor is a competent not great composer.  But I'd say the same about Florence Price.  Duke Ellington is clearly a different case/calibre - who once said that Duke Ellington was America's greatest composer?  I do understand that there are elements of discrimination against these composers on account of race or gender and as such their struggle against that is to be celebrated.  But a hundred years later we are left with the Art itself not the context of its creation.  Is later Beethoven even better than it is because he was deaf or do we just accept it as great?  Do we sit there saying of the late string quartets; "they are even better than you think they are because the guy who wrote them couldn't hear a note".  I'd say not.   I understand this is a touchy and sensitive subject but that is not a reason to avoid a debate......

The cynical side of me says this music is now being programmed NOT because anyone thinks it is of especial merit but simply to be seen to be programming it and therefore promoting the idea that CM is inclusive and relevant.  I'm not saying for a second that the historical fact that people were marginalised on the basis of race or gender was a good thing but it is simply how it was.  We have to change things going forward , we cannot be hostages to history - instead we should learn from it.  Saying CM is the provenance of dead white men is a bit like saying organised religion - any religion - was the domain of influential educated men too.  It was - learn from that, change things and move forward.

Your ears aren’t deceiving you, I, too, find Coleridge-Taylor’s music to be well-crafted, but that’s about it. Whether he was black, white, purple, orange, green...is irrelevant to me.
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Symphonic Addict on July 13, 2021, 12:13:54 PM
Your ears aren’t deceiving you, I, too, find Coleridge-Taylor’s music to be well-crafted, but that’s about it. Whether he was black, white, purple, orange, green...is irrelevant to me.

It would probably be music by aliens, and I would be eager to listen to it!  ;D
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Mirror Image on July 13, 2021, 12:20:37 PM
It would probably be music by aliens, and I would be eager to listen to it!  ;D

Me, too! :D
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: VonStupp on July 13, 2021, 01:18:56 PM
At the risk of offending people my ears objectively tell me that Coleridge-Taylor is a competent not great composer.  But I'd say the same about Florence Price.  Duke Ellington is clearly a different case/calibre - who once said that Duke Ellington was America's greatest composer?  I do understand that there are elements of discrimination against these composers on account of race or gender and as such their struggle against that is to be celebrated.  But a hundred years later we are left with the Art itself not the context of its creation.  Is later Beethoven even better than it is because he was deaf or do we just accept it as great?  Do we sit there saying of the late string quartets; "they are even better than you think they are because the guy who wrote them couldn't hear a note".  I'd say not.   I understand this is a touchy and sensitive subject but that is not a reason to avoid a debate......

The cynical side of me says this music is now being programmed NOT because anyone thinks it is of especial merit but simply to be seen to be programming it and therefore promoting the idea that CM is inclusive and relevant.  I'm not saying for a second that the historical fact that people were marginalized on the basis of race or gender was a good thing but it is simply how it was.  We have to change things going forward , we cannot be hostages to history - instead we should learn from it.  Saying CM is the provenance of dead white men is a bit like saying organized religion - any religion - was the domain of influential educated men too.  It was - learn from that, change things and move forward.

Perhaps, but looking at this years' live programs, I get to hear more Beethoven symphonies for the umpteenth time (oddly no Bruckner or Mahler scheduled yet). I love Beethoven, Mahler, and Bruckner, and I know the orchestras need to get posteriors in seats right now, but a little variety speaks to me in volumes. If that means programming for diversity sake, I would be more eager to hear competent Coleridge-Taylor thrown in over yet another round of greatest hits. Maybe that is where recordings bridge the gap from attending live performances, and perhaps I am the only one thinking that when I attend live.  ;D
Title: Re: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (1875-1912)
Post by: Roasted Swan on July 14, 2021, 12:01:19 AM
Perhaps, but looking at this years' live programs, I get to hear more Beethoven symphonies for the umpteenth time (oddly no Bruckner or Mahler scheduled yet). I love Beethoven, Mahler, and Bruckner, and I know the orchestras need to get posteriors in seats right now, but a little variety speaks to me in volumes. If that means programming for diversity sake, I would be more eager to hear competent Coleridge-Taylor thrown in over yet another round of greatest hits. Maybe that is where recordings bridge the gap from attending live performances, and perhaps I am the only one thinking that when I attend live.  ;D

I'm ALL for diversity of programming - but as mentioned here before there are many very very fine composers NEVER played at the Proms - take just about ALL the Latin American composers for example.  I would feel on purely musical merit that type of composer deserves attention more than Coleridge-Taylor