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Title: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: San Antone on June 26, 2015, 11:00:35 AM
Looking for songwriters you think are great and then suggest their greatest song.  This could be a song that many other singers have covered or just one you think is their best effort.

I'll start it off with Randy Newman and "I Think It's Going to Rain Today".  He's written a ton of really good songs, but this one has been covered by literally hundreds of singers, as far apart as Nora Jones and Nina Simone.  A true classic song that is so natural and perfect it sounds like it has always has been there, but Randy Newman wrote it in 1968, or thereabouts, since it appeared on his debut album in 1968.

:)
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Florestan on June 26, 2015, 11:36:36 AM
OTOMH: Toto Cutugno - Et si tu n'existais pas
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Ken B on June 26, 2015, 12:15:04 PM
Sondheim
A Little Death
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: snyprrr on June 26, 2015, 03:32:31 PM
Jeff Buckley 'Vancouver'
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Jay F on June 26, 2015, 03:39:13 PM
"The Way You Look Tonight," Jerome Kern and Dorothy Fields.

I like "Gainesville" more than any other song by Randy Newman.

"For No One," Paul McCartney

"Carmelita," Warren Zevon
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: San Antone on June 26, 2015, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Jay F on June 26, 2015, 03:39:13 PM
"The Way You Look Tonight," Jerome Kern and Dorothy Fields.

I like "Gainesville" more than any other song by Randy Newman.

"For No One," Paul McCartney

"Carmelita," Warren Zevon

Great choices.  Kudos for the Kern pick.

:)
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Karl Henning on June 26, 2015, 04:16:32 PM
Ian Anderson, "Black Satin Dancer"

http://www.youtube.com/v/nzxNBTCpYOI

Duke Ellington (lyrics by Bob Russell), "Do Nothing Till You Hear From Me"

http://www.youtube.com/v/vjApoRdEOi4

Lindsey Buckingham, "Walk a Thin Line"

http://www.youtube.com/v/f9DKVtqWTKU

Cole Porter, "I've Got You Under My Skin"

http://www.youtube.com/v/QgIw_d4qBHk

Geo. Harrison, "Woman, Don't You Cry for Me"

http://www.youtube.com/v/TIu3LwF4_Bs

Geo. Gershwin, "When You Want 'Em, You Can't Get 'Em (When You've Got 'Em, You Don't Want 'Em)"

http://www.youtube.com/v/xlSj6cTMc2Y
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Ken B on June 26, 2015, 04:22:57 PM
John Newton, Amazing Grace


*bows modestly as he wins thread by 6 lengths*
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: NJ Joe on June 26, 2015, 04:31:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/N6d2RG2Rl64
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on June 26, 2015, 04:36:14 PM
Charles Trenet: La Mer

One of the most neglected singers/songwriters who ever lived. It is NOT(!!) "The Bobby Darin Song" (Beyond the sea); It was written by Charles Trenet and has been translated into 26 languages including esperanto. Overall, Trenet wrote over 500 songs and had a tremendous voice, usually refusing to use a microphone. Many of his other songs would also merit mention, alongside some by Georges Brassens.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: James on June 26, 2015, 04:50:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/8579wjzQHEk
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on June 26, 2015, 06:42:08 PM
Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on June 26, 2015, 04:36:14 PM
Charles Trenet: La Mer

One of the most neglected singers/songwriters who ever lived.[...] has been translated into 26 languages including esperanto.

That doesn't sound too neglected to me! But I admit, I hadn't heard of him.

I can't get on board with this idea of choosing one best song from anyone, but it's interesting to see people's choices.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Karl Henning on June 27, 2015, 05:03:36 AM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on June 26, 2015, 06:42:08 PM
I can't get on board with this idea of choosing one best song from anyone, but it's interesting to see people's choices.

Yes, dubious premise, but interesting exercise  8)
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: escher on June 27, 2015, 05:30:08 AM
Quote from: Florestan on June 26, 2015, 11:36:36 AM
OTOMH: Toto Cutugno - Et si tu n'existais pas

Oh god, Toto Cutugno mentioned in a thread about great songwriters, the end of the world is near
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 27, 2015, 05:39:04 AM
Hard to choose a greatest song by Townes Van Zandt. There are many great ones, including "If I Needed You" and "Tecumseh Valley." But I'll pick "Pancho and Lefty." Here's a version by Emmylou Harris and the Hot Band, followed by the great Texan himself, playing "a medley of his hit"  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/v/scX50O2hDkI

https://www.youtube.com/v/zprRZ2wFQD4


Sarge
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on June 27, 2015, 10:20:13 AM
Gary Kemp of Spandau Ballet: "Gold"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntG50eXbBtc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntG50eXbBtc)




Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on June 27, 2015, 10:32:59 AM
David Bowie: "Starman"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B5zmDz4vR4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B5zmDz4vR4)
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on June 27, 2015, 02:11:46 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on June 27, 2015, 05:03:36 AM
Yes, dubious premise, but interesting exercise  8)

Oh alright, I'll play along:

Leonard Cohen, "Avalanche"
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Ken B on June 27, 2015, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on June 27, 2015, 02:11:46 PM
Oh alright, I'll play along:

Leonard Cohen, "Avalanche"

Leonard Cohen, Hallelujah
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Karl Henning on June 27, 2015, 02:46:33 PM
Captain Beefheart, "Nowadays, a Woman's Gotta Hit a Man"

https://www.youtube.com/v/M3ja9PWAR_I
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: San Antone on June 27, 2015, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 27, 2015, 05:39:04 AM
Hard to choose a greatest song by Townes Van Zandt. There are many great ones, including "If I Needed You" and "Tecumseh Valley." But I'll pick "Pancho and Lefty." Here's a version by Emmylou Harris and the Hot Band, followed by the great Texan himself, playing "a medley of his hit"  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/v/TMPydiR4NaQ

https://www.youtube.com/v/zprRZ2wFQD4


Sarge

Yep on all three.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on January 29, 2019, 01:12:28 PM
Ray Davies, "Waterloo Sunset"

Richard Thompson, "Dimming of the Day"

Robbie Robertson, "The Weight"

Tom Waits, "Tom Traubert's Blues"

Sandy Denny, "Who Knows Where the Time Goes"
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2019, 02:54:22 PM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on January 29, 2019, 01:12:28 PM
Tom Waits, "Tom Traubert's Blues"

You could've replaced this with over a dozen other Waits songs and I'd be happy with it, but I like your style, T.T.'s Blues is great.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: San Antone on January 29, 2019, 03:09:40 PM
Wow.  I forgot I started this thread.  Time to add another:

If These Walls Could Speak - Jimmy Webb.

https://www.youtube.com/v/_3p64SIX_KI

8)
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on January 29, 2019, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2019, 02:54:22 PM
You could've replaced this with over a dozen other Waits songs and I'd be happy with it,

For sure! That's just how I happen to feel today.

But I'm going for songs that I feel are somehow representative, rather than merely great.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 29, 2019, 03:19:56 PM
Suzanne Vega, Small Blue Thing.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: NikF on January 29, 2019, 06:31:19 PM
A cool pursuit while waiting for a flight.
Feel free to overlook those with a separate lyricist.


This Whole World - Brian Wilson.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPe78FgI9ro

Mood Indigo - Duke Ellington.

I Cover the Waterfront - Green/Hayman.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GIIZ3hQEsqs

Coming Around Again - Carly Simon.

Night and Day - Cole Porter.

Please Fall in love with Me - John Martyn.

Incident on 57th Street - Bruce Springsteen.

She Loves the Jerk - John Hiatt.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KYoKpCas0IY

Lida Rose - Meredith Willson.

They Don't Know - Kirsty MacColl.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kIsyQ2qCDQ8

Being Alive - Sondheim.

Stella by Starlight - Victor Young.

It might as well be Spring - Rodgers/Hammerstein.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MrohVzVLSbw

Cheek to Cheek - Irving Berlin.

If It's Love - Tilbrook/Difford.
https://youtu.be/ZS0SMYdGh-c

I Can't Get Started - Vernon Duke.

What am I doin' Hangin' Round - Michael Martin Murphy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z0h9QD6UKY

Dancing in the Dark - Dietz/Schwarz.

I Want to see the Bright Lights - Richard Thompson.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gkWKKeW8vU

Stardust - Hoagy Carmichael.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: JBS on January 29, 2019, 06:38:48 PM
Quote from: NikF on January 29, 2019, 06:31:19 PM
A cool pursuit while waiting for a flight.
Feel free to overlook those with a separate lyricist.


This Whole World - Brian Wilson.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPe78FgI9ro

Mood Indigo - Duke Ellington.

I Cover the Waterfront - Green/Hayman.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GIIZ3hQEsqs

Coming Around Again - Carly Simon.

Night and Day - Cole Porter.

Please Fall in love with Me - John Martyn.

Incident on 57th Street - Bruce Springsteen.

She Loves the Jerk - John Hiatt.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KYoKpCas0IY

Lida Rose - Meredith Willson.

They Don't Know - Kirsty MacColl.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kIsyQ2qCDQ8

Being Alive - Sondheim.

Stella by Starlight - Victor Young.

It might as well be Spring - Rodgers/Hammerstein.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MrohVzVLSbw

Cheek to Cheek - Irving Berlin.

If It's Love - Tilbrook/Difford.
https://youtu.be/ZS0SMYdGh-c

I Can't Get Started - Vernon Duke.

What am I doin' Hangin' Round - Michael Martin Murphy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z0h9QD6UKY

Dancing in the Dark - Dietz/Schwarz.

I Want to see the Bright Lights - Richard Thompson.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gkWKKeW8vU

Stardust - Hoagy Carmichael.

Decided to go for that warmer clime?

My nomination
Adam Raised a Cain (Bruce Springsteen)
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: NikF on January 29, 2019, 06:56:10 PM
Quote from: JBS on January 29, 2019, 06:38:48 PM
Decided to go for that warmer clime?

My nomination
Adam Raised a Cain (Bruce Springsteen)

Yeah, just for a few days. Y viva espana.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on January 30, 2019, 06:40:43 AM
Jean Ritchie, "High Hills and Mountains"
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 30, 2019, 07:38:00 AM
George Gershwin - Fascinatin' Rhythm

Hard to pick one Gershwin, he had so many great songs. I've always really liked this one though.

8)
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Papy Oli on January 30, 2019, 08:03:10 AM
I'll throw those in :

Neil Young - Old man
Joni Mitchell - The last time I saw Richard
Charles Aznavour - Hier Encore
Grant Lee Philips - Waking Memory
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: geralmar on April 03, 2019, 10:41:30 AM
Hank Williams:  "Your Cheatin' Heart"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sCAct0tUlec
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: geralmar on April 03, 2019, 10:57:38 AM
John Denver:  "Rocky Mountain High"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eOB4VdlkzO4

(Too bad it's about drugged hippies.)
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: geralmar on April 03, 2019, 11:07:08 AM
Gordon Lightfoot:  "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: The new erato on April 03, 2019, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: NikF on January 29, 2019, 06:31:19 PM

Dancing in the Dark - Dietz/Schwarz.

Finally! I've been soooo close to mentioning this a number of times. Big thumb up for the Berlin song as well, and for mentioning Richard Thompson (though probably not my favorite by him).
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Sergeant Rock on April 03, 2019, 01:03:17 PM
Emmylou Harris "Boulder to Birmingham" ...the song is about her feelings of grief in the years following the death of Gram Parsons, country rock pioneer. 

https://www.youtube.com/v/P0oemBPggGI


Sarge
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: geralmar on April 03, 2019, 07:06:33 PM
Bobbie Gentry:  "Ode to Billie Joe"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJZ_ViDADOE
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: geralmar on April 03, 2019, 07:17:10 PM
Paul Simon:  "The Sound of Silence"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4fWyzwo1xg0
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: geralmar on April 03, 2019, 07:32:46 PM
Harry Chapin:  "Cat's in the Cradle"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwjNBjqR-c
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on April 03, 2019, 07:48:14 PM
Quote from: San Antone on April 03, 2019, 01:40:51 PM
John Prine - Paradise


Good one, although my nomination would be either "Sam Stone" or "Angel from Montgomery."
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: NikF4 on April 04, 2019, 04:49:20 AM
Quote from: eThe new erato on April 03, 2019, 12:41:11 PM
Finally! I've been soooo close to mentioning this a number of times. Big thumb up for the Berlin song as well, and for mentioning Richard Thompson (though probably not my favorite by him).

You have one in mind for Richard Thompson?
Yeah, Berlin - a!ways cool.
Dancing in the Dark - Dietz/Schwarz. No matter if it's Artie Shaw or even Astaire and Cyc Charisse dancing stage bound, that's a wonderful tune.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Rinaldo on April 04, 2019, 06:31:26 AM
Count me on team Van Zandt. My favourite song of his is Nothing.

As for the recent generations, Joanna Newsom immediately springs to mind. A masterful songwriter, weaving complex stories and meanings into elegantly simple and beautiful tapestries, as demonstrated in this epic song about her astronomer sister.

Quotethe meteorite is a source of the light
and the meteor's just what we see
and the meteoroid is a stone that's devoid of the fire that propelled it to thee

https://www.youtube.com/v/UGoNCvoZuYA

With Good Intentions Paving Company coming in close second:

https://www.youtube.com/v/eBa3QSycc0c
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: DaveF on April 04, 2019, 09:38:42 AM
From the morning - Nick Drake

And, regretting not having noticed this one 4 years ago:

Quote from: Jay F on June 26, 2015, 03:39:13 PM
"For No One," Paul McCartney

I don't know anyone else that rates that song so highly!  One of the half-dozen perfect ones written by Sir Paul, and yes, the best of all.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: The new erato on April 04, 2019, 11:18:42 AM
Quote from: NikF4 on April 04, 2019, 04:49:20 AM
You have one in mind for Richard Thompson?

Such a vast discography. Perhaps "Did She Jump or Was She Pushed?" or "Walking on a Wire"

And I love "The End of the Rainbow" with these noteworthy lyrics:

I feel for you, you little horror
Safe at your mother's breast
No lucky break for you around the corner
'Cause your father is a bully
And he thinks that you're a pest
And your sister she's no better than a whore

Life seems so rosy in the cradle
But I'll be a friend I'll tell you what's in store
There's nothing at the end of the rainbow
There's nothing to grow up for anymore

Tycoons and barrow boys will rob you
And throw you on the side
And all because they love themselves sincerely
And the man holds a bread knife
Up to you throat is four feet wide
And he's anxious just to show you what it's for

Your mother works so hard to make you happy
But take a look outside the nursery door
There's nothing at the end of the rainbow
There's nothing to grow up for anymore

And all the sad and empty faces
That pass you on the street
All running in their sleep, all in a dream
Every loving handshake
Is just another man to beat
How your heart aches just to cut him to the core
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on April 04, 2019, 11:40:15 AM
Quote from: The new erato on April 04, 2019, 11:18:42 AM
Such a vast discography. Perhaps "Did She Jump or Was She Pushed?" or "Walking on a Wire"

And I love "The End of the Rainbow" with these noteworthy lyrics:

I listed "Dimming of the Day," but maybe I should have listed "The Great Valerio," which comes right after the song you quoted on the Bright Lights album.

Other favorites are "Devonside" (from Hand of Kindness) and "Hope You Like the New Me" (from Mock Tudor) - the latter being possibly the creepiest song I've ever heard!
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: SimonNZ on April 04, 2019, 07:00:16 PM
Bob Dylan - Visions Of Johanna
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: San Antone on April 23, 2019, 02:50:13 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51c96ioOjPL._SY355_.jpg)

Blaze Foley a great songwriter who wrote many great songs.  "Clay Pigeons" is one of 'em.
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Ken B on April 23, 2019, 05:56:05 PM
Martin Gore
Many to choose from, especially Everything Counts or Wrong
Title: Re: Great songwriters and their greatest song
Post by: Ken B on April 23, 2019, 06:02:08 PM
Sondheim
I think his greatest achievement is the central section of Sweeney Todd, which is Pretty Women, Epiphany, and A Little Priest.
As a discrete song A Little Death from A Little Night Music

Harry Warren
Lullaby of Broadway