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The Diner / Re: What are you currently rea...
Last post by LKB - Today at 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: Brian on Today at 06:20:14 AMDon't know what "Big Swiss" is but that cover design is attention-getting!

Indeed. Dunno if I'm interested in the book, but that cover is downright inspiring.  :laugh:
#2
General Classical Music Discussion / Re: David Hurwitz
Last post by LKB - Today at 10:13:38 AM
Quote from: Karl Henning on Today at 07:13:01 AMNo no, I'm rough and ready enough to allow Hurwitz the possibility of being occasionally unobjectionable. We're not barbarians, here.

To put it another way, using one of my favorite couplets:

Accidents happen.  >:D
#3
I am not sure if this group has been mentioned in this thread: Dionysos Now.

Dionysos Now! is the vocal ensemble of inspirer and artistic director Tore Tom Denys (tenor). It is a fairly young ensemble (founded in 2020) with a very personal timbre and with great attention to textual content and articulation. It brings together singers with the necessary international experience in polyphony with top ensembles such as Collegium Vocale Gent, Huelgas ensemble, The Tallis Scolars, Les Musicien du Louvre,... Rediscovering the composer Willaert is an important mission for Dionysos Now!

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Audiences accepted pianists playing with the sheet music (Richter did it for a long time) or avoiding pieces of a high difficulty (e.g. Horszowski who played into his 90s but AFAIK certainly not the Schumann Fantasy).
#5
Quote from: Crudblud on March 27, 2024, 01:10:46 AMIt seems that the compositional logic of film scores is very much determined by external rather than internal factors. The beats that are hit in scoring e.g.: an action sequence are only justified by reference to that action sequence, not to any musical necessity or impetus.




Your post might be meaningful in a discussion which asks the difference between composing music for a soundtrack and composing music for the concert hall.

In the specific case of classical music, you might explain how a composer of classical music has to change his approach to composition when he has to write music for a soundtrack and not for the concert hall.

What you clearily don't realise, however, is that your post is relevant when it comes to explain the difference between classical music for the concert hall and classical music for a soundtrack (the category "classical soundtrack"), but not for demonstrating that the category "classical soundtrack" doesn't exist.
You only explained the difference between two subcategories of classical music, and not the one between classical music and other genres of music.



Note that your observations can be applied to jazz composers too: isn't a jazz composition for a film score subservient to external factors?

For example, Dave Grusin is a jazz composer who has worked on the score of many films. I want that you all tell me that his music composed for the film "The Faboulous Baker Boys" is not jazz.




If you think (like me) that this piece can be classified as jazz, then you have to explain me why the differences between composing soundtracks and composing music for the concert hall is relevant only when it comes to classical music but it's not relevant in all other musical forms (like for example jazz).

Many people in the world of classical music seem to think that classical music is a special thing in respect to all other musical forms and that therefore we must apply a special and twisted logic for it.



In the context of similar discussions I've read the encyclopedic definitions of "classical music" many times.
The definition given are really vague, but no one of them specify that a classical-style composition can not be considered classical music if it's composed for a film score.


If you go to a store of chairs and you tell the customer service that chairs with less than four legs, according to your completely arbitrary definition, are not real chairs and that therefore the models they sell are frauds, they might think that you need the help of a doctor.


Saying that Classic FM is a fraud because it promotes determined soundtracks as classical music (it's basically what the article of the blog of theguardian says) because according to his COMPLETELY ARBITRARY definition of classical music, a classical composition can not be subservient to external elements, it's a similar thing.
And this is what I mean when I speak about "obsessions for categories": the practice of inventing 100'000 restrictive parameters for a determined category instead of accepting the generic nature of human categories.


@San Antone @Karl Henning @DavidW @Szykneij @hopefullytrusting @Spotted Horses @pjme @Maestro267
#6
Composer Discussion / Re: Luciano Berio (1925-2003)
Last post by Mandryka - Today at 09:05:32 AM



Really impressive performance of the piano sonata from Benjamin Kobler - I don't know if it isn't the recording which I've enjoyed the most in fact.
#7
Composing and Performing / piano Nocturnes
Last post by lunar22 - Today at 08:54:07 AM
so far, I have tended to avoid posting any of my limited solo piano output on forums as I was never very happy with any of them. However, I feel the latest set of 4 Nocturnes is a clear step forward and in this I'm also aided by my recent acquisition of the VSL classic "Vienna Imperial" piano which has a lovely soulful sound to my ears. The longest, and in my view best of these pieces, is the second in the set, no. 7, which can be heard on its own here https://app.box.com/s/e9v01e03pdk4fwbv7su153ska4vyn1w4

The whole set is available on Reelcrafter  https://play.reelcrafter.com/dko22/latestworks at the top of the list for anyone who likes at all what they hear. All comments welcome!
#8
Quote from: Maestro267 on Today at 06:50:38 AMSomeone break forum rules so we can kill this thread for goddamn once!

All we have to do is turn this into politics and religion...
#9
The Diner / Re: Only the New (art)
Last post by pjme - Today at 08:21:50 AM


Centaurusweg 39 in Tilburg, free for everyone to see - against the facade of the CVB Recycling company. The mural is by Studio Giftig from Veldhoven, which consists of the artist duo Niels van Swaemen and Kaspar van Leek. The work entitled 'Trashure' has been chosen by an international audience as the most beautiful street art of 2022.

#10
General Classical Music Discussion / Re: Purchases Today
Last post by T. D. - Today at 08:12:45 AM
Quote from: Que on Today at 08:01:35 AMAnd... do you think it lives up to its reputation?

I bought physical CD and it hasn't yet shipped.
The whole release was posted to Youtube and I enjoyed it there, though my computer speakers have crap fidelity so the assessment could change.

I have lots of Bach piano recordings but am a harpsichord novice, so my critical comments would be of limited value.
Suzuki's slow pensive approach appealed to me as a change of pace from Hantai, who is my harpsichord point of reference at this stage (Goldbergs, not K d F).