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Title: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 01, 2021, 02:34:23 AM
G'day !  8)

As I discussed with Madiel last year, hidden into the French thread posts of all places, I got hooked on this sport during the end of last season's finals and it has now carried over into this season.

Watching a great game between Collingwood and Brisbane right now.

Having read the AFL page and rules on wiki has helped to some understanding and appreciation of the game but I will have some questions and comments to post soon.

I have decided to support Geelong Cats this season because :

- I like white and navy, like my French football/soccer team
- They seem to be regular enough in the top of the ladder but not winning that often, losing in last year's finals
- Hawkins is the only player I seem to have registered so far  (also Dustin Martin but he is too good and winning too much of late with Richmond, not fun to support  :P )
- Their song is based on Carmen's Toreador by Bizet. A French composer. Took it as a sign  :laugh:

Any fans/followers of AFL here ?

PS: sign of the times, but god it also feels really good to watch a sport with a real crowd again.

Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 01, 2021, 02:39:24 AM
Goodness me, what did I start?  ;D

How are you managing to watch it?
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 01, 2021, 02:57:02 AM
Goodness me, what did I start?  ;D

How are you managing to watch it?

I know  ;D

BT Sport in the UK broadcast about 3 or 4 games of each round and repeats some again in the following days. so I can catch some quarters here and there or more.  Even if Geelong is not shwon, I'll still enjoy some other teams and games.

One of the other reasons I got into it last year is because I randomly came across a documentary on BBC about Adam Goodes. Even if the documentary was covering an uglier side of the sport, it triggered enough interest for me to look at the games themselves.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RAzAHYyPc48/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 01, 2021, 03:22:13 AM
Hold on a second !!

Why has no-one told me that the Brisbane Lions song was based on the French Anthem !! This changes everything ???  :o Is it too late to change allegiance again ?  :laugh: Very gritty team they are, they gave Geelong a serious run for their money to the end in the last round and this time, they did manage to overtake Collingwood at the siren. Great stuff.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 01, 2021, 03:28:34 AM
LOL! I heard the song and immediately wondered what reaction there would be.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Honestly I can't keep track of most of the team songs, and the whole phenomenon of team songs is really quite strange.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_Football_League_team_songs

As for the game, that's the first time this year I've actually remembered to watch something. I switched it on when I saw the score was close near the end of the 3rd quarter. The classic cliffhanger finish every player dreams about, although the reaction wasn't as wild as it would be in a match between 2 Melbourne teams.

A big part of why I love AFL is the way the momentum can shift.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 01, 2021, 03:37:22 AM
Had to look it up. It's because of...Casablanca  :laugh:

https://www.lions.com.au/news/388921/origins-of-our-club-song (https://www.lions.com.au/news/388921/origins-of-our-club-song)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 01, 2021, 03:45:52 AM
See, you're even teaching me about Australian culture (though it depends considerably on which part of Australia you're in or from).
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: OrchestralNut on April 01, 2021, 03:55:32 AM
What would the significance or popularity of the three "footballs" in Australia? In order of popularity?

Australian Rules
Rugby
Football (soccer)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 01, 2021, 04:27:53 AM
What would the significance or popularity of the three "footballs" in Australia? In order of popularity?

Australian Rules
Rugby
Football (soccer)

You have to split "Rugby" into "Rugby League" and "Rugby Union", for starters...

Culturally, Australia can be pretty sport-obsessed. The variety of football you're obsessed with has historically indicated things about your origins or class, although I'd say that's broken down a bit in recent decades.

Essentially, New South Wales and Queensland are rugby country - rugby league being more working class and rugby union more upper class (union is rather struggling with its profile at the moment). The other states traditionally focus on Aussie Rules, with Melbourne (Victoria's capital) being completely obsessed. A Melbourne newspaper isn't complete without AFL coverage across the sports pages. That is if you remember newspapers.

And AFL definitely gets the bigger crowds (in normal times without any sorts of restrictions).

As for football, well that used to basically indicate that your origins were foreign (ie European). Once upon a time most of the clubs had a strong ethnic basis. Around the 1990s there was push to make clubs focus on geography rather than ethnicity, which I think has worked over time at least in the highest level competition. There's still often more interest in what's happening in Europe than here though.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 03, 2021, 02:28:26 AM
Right, here are a few questions on things that are unclear to me so far :

Q1 - There are 18 teams in the league and they play 22 games over 23 rounds in the regular season. After a bit of looking around, it seems each team has a bye and also plays 5 teams twice over that season. How are those 5 teams determined ? Is it a random draw every year ? For instance, Geelong will play Richmond twice this year. Could that still be the case next year, or do those 5 teams rotate from a year to the next ? how important is this particular doubling of those games on the overall season ?

Q2 - Looking at the table/ladder over the last few years, there always seems to be some very drastic changes from one year to the next. e.g. one team can very well finish 16th one year, 4the next and back to the bottom again after. Why such a disparity from year to year ? Recruitment/transfers, drafts ?

Q3 - I am in general clear on the goals and behinds from foot kicks. If the ball is pushed between goal posts by hand or hits the goal post, the goal is reduced to a behind. What happens is the ball is kicked for a behind but hits one of the post on the way in ? Is the behind cancelled or remains as is ?
 
Q4 - I am not not clear on the referee's decision making when the ball is contested in bundles on the ground after a tackle or kerfuffle of that type ? any guidance please ? Sometimes it goes to one of the teams, sometimes it is a vertical throw by the referee. I gathered there were case of "holding the ball" (like not releasing it in the ruck in rugby union) but beyond it is very muddled.

Q5 - Likewise, I am not clear on the decision making when the ball gets out of boundary. I have not sussed out why in some instances it goes to one of the teams or it goes to the referee to throw. Any guidance please ?

Q6 - When a mark is granted to a player, why is the onus to move back on the player that did the mark and not on the "loser" of the mark, thereby losing some territory to the team that won the mark ?

Q7 - In which case is the onus to move back on the defender, i.e. I saw an example of a (50m?) penalty against a player that hadn't moved back (10 or 15m minimum ?) quickly enough but I don't remember the instance ?

Q8 - Has a referee ever knocked himself in the face after a bounce up ? have to ask :laugh:

Q9 - I read it is illegal to push a player in the back. Is that only the case if that player doesn't hold the ball? If a player holds the ball, can you push him, under the assumption you are attempting a tackle or just to destabilise him? There seems to be cases where the referee let some go.

Q10 - Like in rugby, You are not allowed, rightly, to do a high tackle (above the shoulders) but it seems you are allowed to "climb" up the back and up on the shoulders of an opponent to win a mark ?

Q11 - Is there a system of yellow/red cards for violent conducts/tackles. I watched a video on YT of such violent conducts and there were mentions of reporting the player (I assume like citing the player in rugby union?). Does the player committing such infringement leave the game immediately or is that dealt with after the game?

I think that's it for now. Thank you for any clarifications coming.

I am off to the AFL glossary to sort out my bumps, my shepherds and my grubbers  :laugh:

Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 03, 2021, 03:57:46 AM
Oh boy, so many questions! Some easier to answer than others but I'll do my best.

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Q1 - There are 18 teams in the league and they play 22 games over 23 rounds in the regular season. After a bit of looking around, it seems each team has a bye and also plays 5 teams twice over that season. How are those 5 teams determined ? Is it a random draw every year ? For instance, Geelong will play Richmond twice this year. Could that still be the case next year, or do those 5 teams rotate from a year to the next ? how important is this particular doubling of those games on the overall season ?

This has been a problem since the league grew too big for everyone to play twice, yes. It's not fully random, I know that they split the teams into 'top 6', 'middle 6' and 'bottom 6' from the results in the previous year, and somehow there are rules to make sure that the 5 teams are drawn fairly evenly from those groups. But I still don't know exactly how it works, and I suspect it's not completely random because there are some rivalries that the AFL really likes to have 2 games in a year for.

I know that each year there will be articles assessing who got a good or bad draw. Though that might be partly because, say, a team that was 'middle 6' is actually considered to be improving and likely to do better the following year.

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Q2 - Looking at the table/ladder over the last few years, there always seems to be some very drastic changes from one year to the next. e.g. one team can very well finish 16th one year, 4the next and back to the bottom again after. Why such a disparity from year to year ? Recruitment/transfers, drafts ?

Yes to both. Australian competitions (not just AFL) have policies like drafts and salary caps that are very much designed to prevent what happens in European football competitions, where the same wealthy clubs constantly take all the best players. Drafts are a big thing in the AFL, with the clubs doing a lot of negotiation to swap draft picks as part of deals to transfer players. It's not that common to see such a big change in a single year, but I know that has happened a little bit recently. Overall the competition is kept close by these systems, which is a good thing in my view.

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Q3 - I am in general clear on the goals and behinds from foot kicks. If the ball is pushed between goal posts by hand or hits the goal post, the goal is reduced to a behind. What happens is the ball is kicked for a behind but hits one of the post on the way in ? Is the behind cancelled or remains as is ?

If the ball hits the outer posts, it's out of bounds, a complete miss. So same principle of 'reducing' really.

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Q4 - I am not not clear on the referee's decision making when the ball is contested in bundles on the ground after a tackle or kerfuffle of that type ? any guidance please ? Sometimes it goes to one of the teams, sometimes it is a vertical throw by the referee. I gathered there were case of "holding the ball" (like not releasing it in the ruck in rugby union) but beyond it is very muddled.

Yes, 'holding the ball' means you had a chance to release it and didn't. You must try to release it when tackled. However, the referee will do a throw if the person with the ball never got a decent chance to release it, or if no particular player had control of the ball and it's not coming out of the mass of players.

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Q5 - Likewise, I am not clear on the decision making when the ball gets out of boundary. I have not sussed out why in some instances it goes to one of the teams or it goes to the referee to throw. Any guidance please ?

You're not allowed to deliberately put the ball out of bounds (rather different to most sports!). Whereas if it goes out of bounds just because it's bouncing all over the place, the referee throws it in. It can be a matter of considerable debate as to whether someone was deliberately putting the ball out or it just 'happened' to go out while they were trying to do something else. Defenders in particular are likely to develop skills in the art of getting the ball to go out without making it obvious that's what they wanted.

Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 03, 2021, 04:08:30 AM
Part 2..

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Q6 - When a mark is granted to a player, why is the onus to move back on the player that did the mark and not on the "loser" of the mark, thereby losing some territory to the team that won the mark ?

I really don't know. It's just always been that way. The defender gets to stand on the spot.

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Q7 - In which case is the onus to move back on the defender, i.e. I saw an example of a (50m?) penalty against a player that hadn't moved back (10 or 15m minimum ?) quickly enough but I don't remember the instance ?

If the defender runs forward to the spot or fails to go back to the right spot then yes, they'll be penalised. Referees can often be heard yelling at players to get back to what the referee considers the right spot, and failing to obey is pretty much guaranteed to lead to a 50m penalty. Fun fact: yesrs ago the penalty used to only be 15 metres. It sure made a difference when it became 50.

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Q8 - Has a referee ever knocked himself in the face after a bounce up ? have to ask :laugh:

Oh yes.  :laugh:

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Q9 - I read it is illegal to push a player in the back. Is that only the case if that player doesn't hold the ball? If a player holds the ball, can you push him, under the assumption you are attempting a tackle or just to destabilise him? There seems to be cases where the referee let some go.

It's always illegal, but again it's one of those things where you can have considerable debate about whether it was a proper tackle or a push in the back.

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Q10 - Like in rugby, You are not allowed, rightly, to do a high tackle (above the shoulders) but it seems you are allowed to "climb" up the back and up on the shoulders of an opponent to win a mark ?

Yes, but I think you'll find most of that climbing is a leap and then using your legs, not your arms.

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Q11 - Is there a system of yellow/red cards for violent conducts/tackles. I watched a video on YT of such violent conducts and there were mentions of reporting the player (I assume like citing the player in rugby union?). Does the player committing such infringement leave the game immediately or is that dealt with after the game?

No cards. Only being placed on report which is dealt with after the game, and the tribunal might ban the player for any number of games (the record is 9 games). For low level offences it might only be a warning that will affect the chances of being banned on the next offence. I often think it's a good thing because it means that a referee can't send someone off by mistake. Occasionally you will see situations where a player has done something really bad and you wish they could be sent off, or where winning that game is more important than missing the next one. But not very often.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 03, 2021, 04:30:44 AM
PS Regarding the closeness of the competition, I don't know if we will ever see a season as good as 2016. Just take a look at the ladder from the end of the year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_AFL_season

The top 7 teams finished within 2 wins of each other.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 03, 2021, 10:11:32 AM
Oh boy, so many questions! Some easier to answer than others but I'll do my best.

Thank you very much for taking the time, much appreciated. It puts a bit more structure to it all. I am sure Q4 & Q5 will make more sense as along the way as I watch more games. I start to really appreciate the tactical element & movement to it, players finding or creating the space, getting away from their marking opponent. I was wondering often why they don't kick to goals from the 50m line or thereabouts when they have some space to do so, but finding the gaps or creating the marks for a better position inside the 50m line make sense.

I just found out that all the matches' full replays (all rounds) are actually put up on the AFL official website and I can access them! I can watch them on catch up there the next day if I don't want to risk waking up my partner at 6am to watch Geelong live :laugh: I for sure will have to catch up today's Swans/Tigers game when it is put up. That sounded like a cracker. AFL.TV also works for me !

I need to find a video of Q8 now too  8)

PS Regarding the closeness of the competition, I don't know if we will ever see a season as good as 2016. Just take a look at the ladder from the end of the year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_AFL_season

The top 7 teams finished within 2 wins of each other.
   

Looked like a really exciting one. the AFL website also has a page with the injury list. Given the number per clubs, that must explain such topsy-turvy results throughout the season.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 04, 2021, 01:31:16 AM
GWS (Greater Western Sydney) play a few games a year in Canberra. The first one for this year is on right now.

Still watching on television instead...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 04, 2021, 02:38:56 AM
I just realised I should add to my answer about the ball going out of bounds.

If you kick it out on the full (no bounce), then it automatically goes to the other team. It doesn't matter if it was deliberate or not.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 04, 2021, 02:56:27 AM
GWS (Greater Western Sydney) play a few games a year in Canberra. The first one for this year is on right now.

Still watching on television instead...

Is that the team you "barrack" for ? (I knew that glossary would be handy at some point  ;D )


I just realised I should add to my answer about the ball going out of bounds.

If you kick it out on the full (no bounce), then it automatically goes to the other team. It doesn't matter if it was deliberate or not.

noted, thank you.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 04, 2021, 02:30:50 AM
Is that the team you "barrack" for ? (I knew that glossary would be handy at some point  ;D )

 :laugh: :laugh: He's got the lingo (language) already.

Actually no. I don't really go for a specific team these days. Just whoever's play I enjoy and/or whoever has the sexiest players. :D

I know in theory I'm meant to support GWS but I really cannot stand one of their star players.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 06, 2021, 12:22:58 PM
:laugh: :laugh: He's got the lingo (language) already.

Actually no. I don't really go for a specific team these days. Just whoever's play I enjoy and/or whoever has the sexiest players. :D

I know in theory I'm meant to support GWS but I really cannot stand one of their star players.

All reasons are valid  ;D

I caught the last 10 minutes live of Cats v Hawks Q4 yesterday morning UK time. That was another one where Geelong hung in there just about, it was tense and I really got into it. Must admit, I did have a supporter's moment when Clark scored this one.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/578672/jordan-clark-turns-into-usain-bolt-in-stunning-cat-surge?videoId=578672&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1617609206001 (https://www.afl.com.au/video/578672/jordan-clark-turns-into-usain-bolt-in-stunning-cat-surge?videoId=578672&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1617609206001)

And then Hawthorn scored straight afterwards with a round the corner kick, just to keep "us" on our toes. I think I am converted now and sticking with the Cats.

I re-watched the full game on the AFL replay today. Great game throughout and I was still nervous throughout Q4 even though I knew the result  :laugh: I did pay closer attention to the contests and the referees decisions during the game. Still some grey areas here and there but in the main, the explanations you provided were of great help, thank you again.

Oh and I found the AFL StatsPro page on the AFL site. Lots of stats everywhere !!!!!!  Happy as a pig in the proverbial... 8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 06, 2021, 07:26:18 PM
That was a pretty good goal!
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 08, 2021, 02:25:51 AM
Watching Sydney v Essendon right now, and it's a potential thriller. I might have to put the sound on and stop listening to Dvorak.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 08, 2021, 12:14:01 PM
Watching Sydney v Essendon right now, and it's a potential thriller. I might have to put the sound on and stop listening to Dvorak.  :laugh:

I had the game in the background this morning. Based on the final score, I'll probably catch it up again with full attention when it is up on the AFL website. I have Port Adelaide - Richmond live in the morning. Could be a good'un too.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 10, 2021, 11:51:13 PM
I hate this !!?$&??@#!!  sport...Useless !!?$&??@#!! Cats  >:( >:(   :laugh:

Only saw the last 15 minutes to be fair but that was enough... 0:)

Need to catch up Q4 of Port Adelaide - Richmond. I enjoyed the first 3 quarters live.



Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 11, 2021, 01:37:41 AM
Fairweather fan. That's not how they do it in Victoria...

I tipped Geelong to win, but so did almost everyone else in the office tipping competition and I've still won the week.  ;D  One of my colleagues is a Melbourne supporter so he'll very happy with their current progress.

EDIT: I just looked at the next round... you'll want to keep with Geelong, definitely.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 11, 2021, 01:52:45 AM
Fairweather fan. That's not how they do it in Victoria...

I tipped Geelong to win, but so did almost everyone else in the office tipping competition and I've still won the week.  ;D  One of my colleagues is a Melbourne supporter so he'll very happy with their current progress.

EDIT: I just looked at the next round... you'll want to keep with Geelong, definitely.

Congrats on winning the pools !

oh I am sticking with Geelong, I just didn't particularly feel like waking up at 6am on a Sunday morning just for a round game  :blank: I'll wait for the catch up to see it in full (that might be different once (if) we get to the preliminary finals etc...)
 
Now an AFL question : Are the hairdressers still shut in Australia ?.... or is this abundance of mullets an entirely voluntary choice on the part of the players ?  ???  >:D  (I am half sarcastic and, as a balding guy, of course possibly half jealous  :laugh: )

Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 11, 2021, 02:43:42 AM
Look, the mullet on the new Port Adelaide player was amazing/appalling.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 11, 2021, 02:53:20 AM
Lachie Jones I presume ?  :laugh:

Commentators seemed impressed by his game in what I saw against Richmond, particularly for a rookie's first game.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 15, 2021, 02:23:30 AM
I caught up Q4 of Port Adelaide - Richmond yesterday and that's probably one of the best quarters I have seen so far this season, really gritty and intense in terms of defending. I'd recommend it.

On the downside, that game must have ruffled Richmond because they are absolutely ruthless against St Kilda right now. It doesn't look like St Kilda will claw that one back like in the last round.

I haven't had the courage to sit through the Geelong catch up  ;D

Question of the day: What is the tactical advantage of kicking the ball from the pocket most of time towards the boundary lines on the sides, instead of going straight ahead with as a long a shot as possible? If that shot is long enough and way beyond the 50m, that cancels any risk of conceding a goal straight back if an opponent wins the ball and kicks straight back ?
 
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 15, 2021, 02:39:10 AM
I haven't been watching Richmond-St Kilda but good to know my tip is safe...

Question of the day: What is the tactical advantage of kicking the ball from the pocket most of time towards the boundary lines on the sides, instead of going straight ahead with as a long a shot as possible? If that shot is long enough and way beyond the 50m, that cancels any risk of conceding a goal straight back if an opponent wins the ball and kicks straight back ?

Well it might prevent a goal with a single kick, but you've seen just how rapidly the ball can move and if the opponent can send the ball for a forward to mark, you might only be delaying a goal by the amount of time it takes that forward to remove his mouthguard and adjust his socks...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 15, 2021, 03:00:53 AM
..but you would get that same threat wherever you kick it, wouldn't you ?

is it mostly a matter then of closing the angle towards the goal posts as much as possible for a kicking threat ?
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 15, 2021, 03:01:54 AM
48-134...ouch  ??? Nope, no comeback  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 15, 2021, 03:10:53 AM
..but you would get that same threat wherever you kick it, wouldn't you ?

is it mostly a matter then of closing the angle towards the goal posts as much as possible for a kicking threat ?

That's part of it. But if it's out to the sides, it's also easier to guard against a return kick (coming into a forward) because there's less option of the direction of that kick. If you kick down the centre and an opponent gets it, they might have options left, right and middle as to where they kick to a forward, making it harder to defend all the possibilities.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 15, 2021, 03:12:27 AM
The tipping website our office competition uses shows the betting odds for matches.

I feel I should tell you: for Geelong vs North Melbourne, a $1 bet on Geelong pays $1.02, whereas a $1 bet on North Melbourne pays $14.  That's amongst the most lopsided odds I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 15, 2021, 03:30:59 AM
That's part of it. But if it's out to the sides, it's also easier to guard against a return kick (coming into a forward) because there's less option of the direction of that kick. If you kick down the centre and an opponent gets it, they might have options left, right and middle as to where they kick to a forward, making it harder to defend all the possibilities.

that makes sense, thank you.

The tipping website our office competition uses shows the betting odds for matches.

I feel I should tell you: for Geelong vs North Melbourne, a $1 bet on Geelong pays $1.02, whereas a $1 bet on North Melbourne pays $14.  That's amongst the most lopsided odds I've ever seen.

This one won't be broadcast in the UK, so it will be catch up only. Given how topsy-turvy that game can be, you never know  :blank:

(my French soccer team has the irritating and regular habit of "helping" teams that are on a losing streak to bounce back, starting against us. I know it is early in the season but it would be my luck that Geelong falls into this category too now that I have picked them  ;D ) 
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 17, 2021, 10:53:14 PM
Cats up by only 6 at half-time...

hmm...not entirely reassuring, is it...  :blank:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 17, 2021, 11:05:18 PM
Cats up by only 6 at half-time...

hmm...not entirely reassuring, is it...  :blank:

Very low score. Is it raining?

EDIT: No, it just seems that Geelong is refusing to kick goals in order to keep the game interesting.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 17, 2021, 11:18:46 PM
Very low score. Is it raining?

EDIT: No, it just seems that Geelong is refusing to kick goals in order to keep the game interesting.

Not broadcast here, I have to make do with the AFL website timeline  :-X

edit: I sense some sarcasm, in the way that you picked Geelong in your office pools and start to regret it ?  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 17, 2021, 11:28:40 PM
Not broadcast here, I have to make do with the AFL website timeline  :-X

edit: I sense some sarcasm, in the way that you picked Geelong in your office pools and start to regret it ?  :laugh:

No, they're doing a bit better now and it's always a hopeful sign when one side has so many more scoring shots. But really, I'd regard par to be when you score about as many goals as behinds, or slightly more goals. So a half-time score of 3.9 was just failing to convert chances. They're up to 6.11 now so that's an improvement.

EDIT: Can you listen to the radio stations available on the AFL website?

SECOND EDIT: It's not on television here either (only subscription service), but I just looked at weather radar to check the weather part.  ;D But in the Match Centre there's a "listen live" link and various options for radio stations, at least for me there is.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 17, 2021, 11:46:36 PM
Oh I never noticed that Listen Live button, thank you. Yes, I can access that. I am getting all the ads now  :laugh: Some accents are (to me) broader than Neighbours and Home and Away  :-[  ;D

I haven't found anything that is blocked so far. I can get all the match highlights, replays, AFL TV, also the podcasts and documentaries in the On Demand page.  Anything worth a watch or recommendations, I'd welcome, particularly older legendary matches etc...

Up by 20 after Q3, that's better.

One article I found of interest yesterday: statistically, even after round Five, 6 of the 8 teams for the finals are usually established by that stage. Full article here :

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-when-is-the-top-eight-locked-afl-ladder-stats-teams-who-will-make-finals-history-analysis-latest-news/news-story/ce894fdfb1b3175c6a8a5ad304512824 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-when-is-the-top-eight-locked-afl-ladder-stats-teams-who-will-make-finals-history-analysis-latest-news/news-story/ce894fdfb1b3175c6a8a5ad304512824)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 17, 2021, 11:59:59 PM
There is indeed a variety in our accents, and yes you will definitely hear some broad ones on something like a radio sports broadcast.

I'm not really familiar with all of the material available on the website, like podcasts or documentaries. Maybe my brother-in-law would know, but he'll just want you to watch anything that says Richmond is wonderful.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 18, 2021, 12:15:38 AM
Fun fact regarding the radio broadcast: When I, so far, have only registered the Geelong names of Miers, Hawkins, Selwood and Tuohy, that leaves around 32 names on the pitch for whom I have absolutely no idea which side actually has the footy at that time  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 18, 2021, 12:38:50 AM
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 18, 2021, 02:39:16 AM
Oh well, got to start somewhere  ;D

I have started to register just a handful of other players' faces in other teams along the way (Dustin Martin since the final last year, now Josh Bruce, Jack Riewoldt, Tom Lynch, Eddie Betts, Lance Franklin come to mind) but not many more yet  :-[
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 18, 2021, 02:52:40 AM
Oh look, it's not as if I know every player. And you might know more players than anyone else in a radius of 100 miles.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 20, 2021, 05:15:51 AM
It was my turn last night to set questions for our weekly online zoom quiz. I threw in an AFL question (just because I could  :laugh: ), asking how many points were scored for a goal in Aussie Rules. I saw some very perplexed looks in some of the webcam screens  >:D That was my revenge for getting flipping Harry Potter questions thrown at us every other week 0:)

In other news, I sat through the Geelong v North Melbourne replay yesterday. Man, that was an absolute grind  :-X

When I then moved on to Q1 of Swans v Giants, It was a shock to see some proper footy and realise how poor Geelong was at the moment  ;D

   
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 20, 2021, 11:59:29 AM
He’s already at the point where he makes comments about whether his team plays “proper footy”...

 :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 20, 2021, 01:29:33 PM
All from the comfort of my sofa... Just a bunch of slow moving barges... And they couldn't even manage an accurate daisy cutter to save their lives  :laugh:  :P
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 23, 2021, 01:13:08 PM
New expression learnt this morning while glancing at Giants v Bulldogs : "how did he miss that... It's a soda" when a GWS player missed a sitter of a goal.

Looking forward to Melbourne v Richmond in the morning now  8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 23, 2021, 02:20:25 PM
I have never ever heard of a soda. I have however heard of a thick accent.

As well as a Canberra game occurring on the coldest night of the year thus far, enabling the commentators to complain about the weather as they always ALWAYS do.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 23, 2021, 10:25:14 PM
I have never ever heard of a soda. I have however heard of a thick accent.

 >:D

Definitely the right expression, had to google yesterday just to make sure of what I had heard !

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-soda (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-soda)

As well as a Canberra game occurring on the coldest night of the year thus far, enabling the commentators to complain about the weather as they always ALWAYS do.

Oh yes ! if i had been given a dollar every time they said it was one degree, going to minus one degree towards the end of the game, i could have retired  :laugh:

PS: Nice to wake up to such a winning result by Geelong !! Definitely one to catch up tomorrow  8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 23, 2021, 10:58:14 PM
Australians will readily complain about how cold Canberra is, but if Europeans or North Americans ask for specifics...

When winter comes, I’ll regularly face maximum daily temperatures of 12 or 13 degrees C. And -4 at night!
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 24, 2021, 12:33:14 AM
Pleasant winter that  ;D

Simple and touching Anzac ceremony before the Melbourne Richmond game by the way.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 24, 2021, 03:59:51 AM
The crowd at the MCG just sounded insanely loud, after a long time of not really hearing that.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 24, 2021, 05:42:46 AM
The crowd at the MCG just sounded insanely loud, after a long time of not really hearing that.

It is great to see such a crowd again, especially when the UK is only just doing some crowd trials of 1-4,000 in stadiums since Sunday only. Some long way to go here yet.

Also a bit unnerving to imagine oneself in the middle of such a crowd again. 
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Holden on April 24, 2021, 12:53:38 PM
My team, the Gold Coast Suns had a very good win against the Swans at home.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 28, 2021, 01:48:20 AM
My team, the Gold Coast Suns had a very good win against the Swans at home.

Welcome to the AFL thread and thank you for beating the Swans  ;D 8)

Caught up with the Cats v Eagles game yesterday, sketchy to start with but then the Cats were rampant with 10 unanswered goals in a row in Q2. Nice one !
It seems that Jeremy Cameron is quite a good addition  ;D 
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 30, 2021, 03:26:32 AM
Great display by Richmond in the game just now against the Western Bulldogs.

Really looking forward to Swans v Cats, I have it broadcast on TV tomorrow morning  8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on April 30, 2021, 03:37:25 AM
The tipping for this round is fiendishly hard.

Apart from Melbourne v North Melbourne, where the quoted odds are $1.01 versus $17.00.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on April 30, 2021, 03:43:57 AM
The tipping for this round is fiendishly hard.

Apart from Melbourne v North Melbourne, where the quoted odds are $1.01 versus $17.00.

I can imagine. I was looking at the ladder a moment ago, quite a few games with teams right next to one another.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 01:42:43 AM
One element that still takes some adjusting (both ways): sometimes a 30-point lead means nothing...

Like now  >:(
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 01:45:06 AM
One element that still takes some adjusting (both ways): sometimes a 30-point lead means nothing...

Like now  >:(

And this is precisely why I love AFL (and what makes it different from a lot of sports). A shift in momentum can have a huge impact on the scoreline. In a really good game you can see the momentum shifts, and the key thing is whether a team can convert its momentum into points.

No-one is doing very well in the office tipping competition this weekend, so far.  I'm on 1 out of 4. The leader is on 2.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 01:54:28 AM
And this is precisely why I love AFL (and what makes it different from a lot of sports). A shift in momentum can have a huge impact on the scoreline. In a really good game you can see the momentum shifts, and the key thing is whether a team can convert its momentum into points.

I see that point now. Nicely poised game now and some good phases so far on both sides. Quite a nice Saturday morning  8)

No-one is doing very well in the office tipping competition this weekend, so far.  I'm on 1 out of 4. The leader is on 2.

Did you tip Geelong or Sydney ?  $:)  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 01:59:25 AM
Did you tip Geelong or Sydney ?  $:)  :laugh:

I tipped Sydney, given it was in Sydney... I also tipped Port Adelaide against Brisbane and Brisbane is currently winning handsomely.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 02:06:54 AM
I tipped Sydney, given it was in Sydney... I also tipped Port Adelaide against Brisbane and Brisbane is currently winning handsomely.

I am NOT going to say "1 out 6 then" because that will come back and bite me in an hour's time  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 02:12:38 AM
oh well, it's biting me anyway  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Holden on May 01, 2021, 02:17:48 AM
Gold Coast had another win.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 02:28:35 AM
Gold Coast had another win.

Everybody beats Collingwood though  :P

(I am teasing, I know nothing, I just looked at the ladder  ;D Congrats on the win  8) )
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 03:11:29 AM
Gold Coast is winning more than expected, Collingwood is losing more than expected.

Meanwhile, back in Sydney...

... that WAS tense.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 03:12:43 AM
oh well....great game to watch still...  :(

Richmond next  :blank:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 03:14:27 AM
Gold Coast is winning more than expected, Collingwood is losing more than expected.

Meanwhile, back in Sydney...

... that WAS tense.  :laugh:

edge of seat stuff...why wasn't it a mark by Cameron right at the end by the way ? No a proper kick or out of bounds ?

I think I am properly converted now   8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 03:22:14 AM
edge of seat stuff...why wasn't it a mark by Cameron right at the end by the way ? No a proper kick or out of bounds ?

The umpire said the kick wasn't 15 metres (which is the minimum distance). The commentators seem to think it was.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 03:29:43 AM
The umpire said the kick wasn't 15 metres (which is the minimum distance). The commentators seem to think it was.

OK, must have missed that while I was swearing/shouting at the TV  0:)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 04, 2021, 01:08:28 AM
They are all there, in all their glory   8)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0iRqpwUUAAhBpm?format=jpg&name=large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0iRsTeVIAIsQaH?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 04, 2021, 04:39:00 AM
Oh dear. Give me short hair any day.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 04, 2021, 04:51:00 AM
Quite.

I'd take a good pair of clippers to them with a No.1 or No.2 on...if I could catch them, that is  :laugh:

That will teach me to follow the AFL tweeter account  ???
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 07, 2021, 01:13:22 AM
One element that still takes some adjusting (both ways): sometimes a 30-point lead means nothing...

I am just quoting myself to convince myself of this when we'll be in that position after Q1....  >:(  :laugh:

(great footy from Richmond though  :-X )
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 07, 2021, 01:52:38 AM
*checks the scoreboard*

See, now I wonder what you were complaining about.  ;)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 07, 2021, 01:55:44 AM
*checks the scoreboard*

See, now I wonder what you were complaining about.  ;)

the fast counter-attacking of Richmond... that's what  :laugh:

Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 07, 2021, 01:58:50 AM
Geelong is definitely improving compared to the first games though, that's good.

Oh Cameron yeeees !!! you beauty...

god I need that half time...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 07, 2021, 02:41:55 AM
A minute ago, after the most recent goal, I thought "oh boy, Olivier is really going to be hooked on this sport now".  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 07, 2021, 02:50:57 AM
A minute ago, after the most recent goal, I thought "oh boy, Olivier is really going to be hooked on this sport now".  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 33 means nothing

leading by 34 means nothing

It feels effin' good though...

*breathes*

Am I too old to have a Cameron and an Hawkins poster in the bedroom ? Not sure how my beloved would take it  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Holden on May 07, 2021, 03:39:48 PM
Last week was double points round in my local pub's tipping competition. Not a good time to only pick four games. The one plus is that very few others picked the upset results either but I have dropped a bit further behind the leader.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 08, 2021, 01:20:26 AM
The uncertainty of it all is just mind boggling.

The timeline of GWS v Essendon earlier on is a case in point. They were up +30 in Q1, back down to +4 or 5 in Q2, up +30 in Q3 and only eventually won with +2  :o

yep, 30 points means nothing...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 14, 2021, 12:13:11 AM
Guess whose idea it was to book one's 2nd vaccine jab slap bang in the middle of Q2 of Saints v Cats later this morning ??? get your priorities right, man...  ;D

Go Cats !!  0:)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 14, 2021, 02:04:42 AM
Good grief. And I haven't even been bothering watching, I've been catching up on last night's Premier League instead...

The sporting grass is always greener somewhere else.

But the halftime score, hmmm.... St Kilda by 3 points.  But as it's 3.11(29) to 4.2(26), it appears that St Kilda is generously avoiding kicking goals. That may return to bite them.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 14, 2021, 03:39:24 AM
Good grief. And I haven't even been bothering watching, I've been catching up on last night's Premier League instead...

The sporting grass is always greener somewhere else.

But the halftime score, hmmm.... St Kilda by 3 points.  But as it's 3.11(29) to 4.2(26), it appears that St Kilda is generously avoiding kicking goals. That may return to bite them.


They were 0.7(7) after Q1, we were let off the hook really. And biting them in the end it did, thankfully.

Back home in time for Q3, a scrappy game but a good 4 pts in the bag.

Holden's team for us next weekend  8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 22, 2021, 12:57:28 AM
Looks like a fairly steady win for the Cats against the Suns earlier today, based on the timeline. I'll catch this one up tomorrow once the AFL Website has uploaded it.

Melbourne and Richmond losing are good surprises  8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 22, 2021, 02:50:06 AM
I wasn't surprised by Richmond losing. Melbourne, on the other hand... well no-one in my office competition picked it.

I've not being paying much attention. With Eurovision I have my hands full.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on May 22, 2021, 03:29:31 AM
1. I tipped Fremantle.

2. Phew!
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on May 29, 2021, 12:09:31 AM
Aaah waking up to a Geelong victory result.

Good times (Even if Brisbane overtook us in the ladder)  8)

and G'day !  ;D
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 04, 2021, 03:40:56 AM
I now know that I don't like a weekend with a "Bye"  >:(
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 04, 2021, 02:23:55 PM
I now know that I don't like a weekend with a "Bye"  >:(

Lol. But it gives players a rest, and injured players more time to get back.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 09, 2021, 01:42:30 PM
Yay it's game day !!!

(https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/G0WsqFDJ-cHpW0kY3-RYZVjUIEQ=/1396x0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2F3c1a83b5-dc82-4380-8350-f74e3f6e1ceb)


For you at least  :P
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 10, 2021, 01:54:39 AM
Pretty good, very close game so far.

Good recovery from -21 to + 3 at half time for Geelong. That made the crowd quiet at least.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 10, 2021, 03:46:31 AM
Yay it's game day !!!

(https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/G0WsqFDJ-cHpW0kY3-RYZVjUIEQ=/1396x0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2F3c1a83b5-dc82-4380-8350-f74e3f6e1ceb)


For you at least  :P

Frankly you knew before I did. I trust you enjoyed.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 10, 2021, 03:59:18 AM
Very good game, got it on BT broadcast up here.

Geelong stepped it up gradually after going 21 behind to take it over the line, but I was still very nervous at +15 with only 3 minutes to go  :laugh:

Bulldogs in our next game, it's going to be a tough one again.

Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 10, 2021, 04:06:02 AM
I note in passing that my sister is thoroughly unimpressed by your decision to select Geelong as the team you identify with.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 10, 2021, 04:21:12 AM
I could be smug but that will come back and bite me, so I'll keep shtum   0:)

(PS: I am sorry if her neck strains, looking us up the ladder though...   :laugh: )
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 14, 2021, 07:16:18 AM
Dare I ask about the weekly tipping/pools competition ? A few "red L" in the top half of the ladder in this last round ???

A certainly tasty Cats v Bulldogs to come later this week... we have a green streak to defend  8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 14, 2021, 12:47:57 PM
You may dare to ask, so long as I may burst into tears.  ;)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 15, 2021, 05:13:40 AM
Oh, there always this weekend...or the next  :-X  ;D

Found out from the fixtures that the last byes are this weekend and then it is all equal again in the ladder...at last!!

Also had a quick look ahead at how the finals work with the top 8. Could be tasty if Richmond stays in 5-8 and one of the 1-4 drops a bit.

is there a stat somewhere on how often a team finishing top of the ladder actually ended up winning the Grand Final ? Just wondered.   
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 03:01:58 AM
is there a stat somewhere on how often a team finishing top of the ladder actually ended up winning the Grand Final ? Just wondered.   

Not that I'm aware of. It's probably out there somewhere.

They changed the finals system in 2000. Before that for a few years they used the mathematically more appropriate McIntyre system: starting with 1v8, 2v7, 3v6 and 4v5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_final_eight_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntyre_Final_Eight_System

And for many years when the competition was smaller it was only the top 5 teams, not the top 8. Apparently it was top 6 for a little while in between.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 17, 2021, 03:14:14 AM
Not that I'm aware of. It's probably out there somewhere.

They changed the finals system in 2000. Before that for a few years they used the mathematically more appropriate McIntyre system: starting with 1v8, 2v7, 3v6 and 4v5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_final_eight_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntyre_Final_Eight_System

And for many years when the competition was smaller it was only the top 5 teams, not the top 8. Apparently it was top 6 for a little while in between.

Why make it simple when we can make it complicated, in both cases really ! A straight shoot-out playoff would have been too easy  :laugh:




(one sleep !!!!  8) )
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 03:18:14 AM
Why make it simple when we can make it complicated, in both cases really ! A straight shoot-out playoff would have been too easy  :laugh:

(one sleep !!!!  8) )

You're European. You're not used to finals series...

I think it was the rugby league rather than the AFL that got rid of the McIntyre system partially because of the year that 5th defeated 4th, 6th defeated 3rd, 7th defeated 2nd and 8th defeated 1st. The fact that this was only a 1 in 16 random chance, and even less likely if teams played according to form, didn't stop the howls of outrage when 3rd and 4th were abruptly eliminated.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 17, 2021, 03:47:10 AM
You're European. You're not used to finals series...

I think it was the rugby league rather than the AFL that got rid of the McIntyre system partially because of the year that 5th defeated 4th, 6th defeated 3rd, 7th defeated 2nd and 8th defeated 1st. The fact that this was only a 1 in 16 random chance, and even less likely if teams played according to form, didn't stop the howls of outrage when 3rd and 4th were abruptly eliminated.

I am sure I'll be fine with it and will get behind it if Geelong goes all the way  0:)

That imbalance still happens in England's Football Championship in some way.

1st (who gets a trophy) and 2nd are automatically promoted to the Premiership after the regular season of 46 (!!) games , then you get 2-leg semi-finals of 3rd v 6th an 4th v 5th, then the winners meet in a playoff final at Wembley, the winner of which gets promoted (and gets a trophy  :laugh:). Therefore, on end of season form, the 6th could be promoted even though for argument's sake, they could have finished the regular season 15 pts behind the 3rd.

I enjoyed seeing my English team benefiting of this at Wembley 2 decades ago ( agreat day out !!) but in the mains, it still feels skewed, particularly after such a long season already.

It would make better sense of having a 2-leg play-off between the Championship's 3rd and the Premiership's 18th (the French league used to do that in up to the mid 80's, scrapped it then and brought it back last year).   
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 04:06:09 AM
Yeah, but why have "sense" when you can have drama and excitement? And more ticket sales?

I do, on the whole, like finals series myself, but then on the whole I don't have teams that I support in a one-eyed fashion such that I can't enjoy the outcomes.

I think I've mentioned before the sensational season where the top 7 teams on the ladder were very evenly matched, and Western Bulldogs won from 7th place. Truly a year to convince you of the potential of finals.

As for the whole Geelong thing, I don't want to get to the end of the season and discover that you've abandoned the sport because you didn't get your fairytale. Traditionally you're supposed to keep coming back year after year hoping that THIS time it's going to finally work out. Like the work colleague who comes from a Melbourne-supporting family. He's not old enough to have ever seen a premiership...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 17, 2021, 04:22:02 AM
Yeah, but why have "sense" when you can have drama and excitement? And more ticket sales?

I do, on the whole, like finals series myself, but then on the whole I don't have teams that I support in a one-eyed fashion such that I can't enjoy the outcomes.

I think I've mentioned before the sensational season where the top 7 teams on the ladder were very evenly matched, and Western Bulldogs won from 7th place. Truly a year to convince you of the potential of finals.

As for the whole Geelong thing, I don't want to get to the end of the season and discover that you've abandoned the sport because you didn't get your fairytale. Traditionally you're supposed to keep coming back year after year hoping that THIS time it's going to finally work out. Like the work colleague who comes from a Melbourne-supporting family. He's not old enough to have ever seen a premiership...

Oh, I am fully used to seasons for nothing in football as it is. It is just nice to "have" a team in AFL that is currently in the upper half, playing for something, it is a refreshing change  :laugh: I don't see myself giving up at the end of the season either, whatever the result.

My BT sport subscription gets more viewing return on investment thanks to even Saint Kilda or Port Adelaide (let alone Geelong) than it does by the Champions League or even the French League  8) In neutral games, football can suffer the comparison quite heavily at times in terms of sporting "entertainment" (can't think of a better word right now). Even rugby union I can find dull at times now... and that's not something I'd have expected to write some months ago.

Also, why should I give up a game where "30 pts mean nothing"  ;)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 18, 2021, 12:54:48 AM
Stat seen on the screen display just before kick off :

"Cats have won 31 out of their last 23 home games"  :laugh:

I mean, come on, how flipping good is that !!  :P
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 18, 2021, 03:48:20 AM
Guess that makes it 32 out of 24  :laugh:

Never in doubt...   :P

What a game, what a sport !!

I am convinced I would have still said that even with a 1-point defeat on the buzzer and a missed final kick. Thrilling stuff !


Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 18, 2021, 07:34:47 PM
I confess I stopped watching, just wasn't in the right mood.

Judging by that scoreline, though, it would have been worth watching.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 19, 2021, 11:48:16 PM
I confess I stopped watching, just wasn't in the right mood.

Judging by that scoreline, though, it would have been worth watching.

Fair point, it was a scrappy wobbly nervy affair, probably too much for a neutral though.

You only need to see that bit really  0:) :

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkKF6tPZsdg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkKF6tPZsdg)

The start of the music timed exactly with Chris Scott's celebration really cracks me up !!!  ;D
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 20, 2021, 01:25:15 AM
It wasn't anything about the game (although the general lack of a crowd was less fun), it was more to do with my week.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 24, 2021, 01:13:17 AM
31-1 down after Q1 v Brisbane...I'd normally convince myself it means nothing but so far Geelong has not turned up...  :blank:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 24, 2021, 02:13:34 AM
I confess to tipping against them. Partly because, after what happened in the last Brisbane v Geelong game, I thought Brisbane was likely to be in a bad mood.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 24, 2021, 02:22:38 AM
I confess to tipping against them. Partly because, after what happened in the last Brisbane v Geelong game, I thought Brisbane was likely to be in a bad mood.  :laugh:

Fair point, we nicked it by a whisker last time I think. Our winning streak is due to end at some point too...

After last week, I'll allow them a bye this week... looks like they're taking it too  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 28, 2021, 02:25:09 AM
I assume Richmond threw a spanner in the betting works ?  :o

Any thoughts on the ladder ? it looks...interesting. 12 pts clear from 8th doesn't really feel like that much right now   :-X
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on June 28, 2021, 02:47:20 AM
I assume Richmond threw a spanner in the betting works ?  :o

Yes, but I was quite bad enough without them. It's my brother-in-law who is suffering the greater trauma. We were actually at the game where Richmond had set the previous record low in our lifetime, so now we don't even have that...  :laugh:

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Any thoughts on the ladder ? it looks...interesting. 12 pts clear from 8th doesn't really feel like that much right now   :-X

3 wins is a fair margin at this stage. To be honest what strikes me is the clear gap between the top 5 and the rest. It's of course possible for someone to have a surge in form, but you'd expect the premier to come from that pack of 5.  Sportsbet still apparently believes that Richmond and West Coast have potential, but they don't have good odds for anyone outside the top 8 and I don't think you'd find many commentators who would have a different opinion.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on June 29, 2021, 03:02:30 AM
Yes, but I was quite bad enough without them. It's my brother-in-law who is suffering the greater trauma. We were actually at the game where Richmond had set the previous record low in our lifetime, so now we don't even have that...  :laugh:

A memorable evening taken away, how harsh  :laugh:


3 wins is a fair margin at this stage. To be honest what strikes me is the clear gap between the top 5 and the rest. It's of course possible for someone to have a surge in form, but you'd expect the premier to come from that pack of 5.  Sportsbet still apparently believes that Richmond and West Coast have potential, but they don't have good odds for anyone outside the top 8 and I don't think you'd find many commentators who would have a different opinion.

I was going to say Geelong's fixtures don't look that bad for the remaining 8 games (Only Richmond in 3 games time then Melbourne for the last game) and the rest looks accessible but you never know really. Looking more closely, 5 of those teams coming up are currently 9th-13th, so they'll be up to a good fight anyway. Good stuff !!
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 01, 2021, 03:03:32 AM
Gold Coast had another win.

And a great gritty one just now vs Richmond, Holden. Nice one !

one downside, Essendon will be fired up against Geelong tomorrow as a win means they could be in 8th spot instead of Richmond   :-X
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on July 01, 2021, 03:16:45 AM
And a great gritty one just now vs Richmond, Holden. Nice one !

Whaaaat??!!

Hell's bells. What has happened to Richmond?

And no, no-one in the office tipping picked Gold Coast.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 01, 2021, 03:35:17 AM
Whaaaat??!!

Hell's bells. What has happened to Richmond?

And no, no-one in the office tipping picked Gold Coast.

It opens it all up doesn't it...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Holden on July 01, 2021, 09:00:16 AM
Whaaaat??!!

Hell's bells. What has happened to Richmond?

And no, no-one in the office tipping picked Gold Coast.

Even I didn’t tip them
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 10, 2021, 01:12:11 AM
Ugly win for Geelong at Carlton tonight, made only comfortable in late Q3 & Q4. That will do.

Listened to the second half on one of the radios on the AFL website (a local Geelong one, based on the commercial ads. I need to go on Princess way for expert advice on furniture apparently  :laugh: ). It does make more sense now than a few weeks ago, now I know most of the Cat's names  ;D

One downside, Rohan got injured. With Cameron already missing, it could be a tough one with Fremantle and Richmond coming next.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 10, 2021, 01:14:42 AM
Even the Geelong commentators couldn't stop laughing about this one :

https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1413773124986818561 (https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1413773124986818561)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on July 10, 2021, 03:25:56 AM
Even the Geelong commentators couldn't stop laughing about this one :

https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1413773124986818561 (https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1413773124986818561)

 :laugh:

Oh dear.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on July 11, 2021, 12:11:47 AM
I officially do not understand this year's competition.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 11, 2021, 01:50:29 AM
wow, another defeat by Richmond  ???

oh that timeline in Q4 !! it's nearly worthy of an English batting collapse  :laugh:

Quick count: 16 defeats in the last 40 games by the top 8 teams. Lack of consistency indeed.

Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 12, 2021, 03:20:19 AM
I officially do not understand this year's competition.

you were saying ?  :laugh:

North Melbourne has scored 6 more points than Richmond in their last 5 games...  :-X
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on July 12, 2021, 05:33:15 AM
Oh good grief!
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 15, 2021, 03:51:29 AM
I know this won't last but hey-ho...

TOP OF THE LADDER !!!  8)

A strong good win today.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on July 15, 2021, 04:05:22 AM
I know this won't last but hey-ho...

TOP OF THE LADDER !!!  8)

A strong good win today.

I wasn't following, busy listening to Shostakovich instead.  ;D  But yes, that win gives Geelong a percentage boost.

The scheduling of the rest of the round is in a bit of chaos as Victoria is going into lockdown again. Not nearly as many COVID cases as New South Wales but the Victorian government is considerably less keen to take a chance.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 15, 2021, 04:18:28 AM
I wasn't following, busy listening to Shostakovich instead.  ;D  But yes, that win gives Geelong a percentage boost.

The scheduling of the rest of the round is in a bit of chaos as Victoria is going into lockdown again. Not nearly as many COVID cases as New South Wales but the Victorian government is considerably less keen to take a chance.

indeed, we'll take it. Now for an early Christmas, I just would kindly ask Holden's team to do an upset against the Bulldogs. That'd be nice  0:)

I obviously don't look at all the details of the fixtures or news on this matter but from what I have glimpsed on the AFL site, they sure don't mess about in changing to empty stadiums or shifting the games and chartering teams around. 
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on July 15, 2021, 04:25:51 AM
No, they do it very quickly, but I would think it's still quite disruptive to preparations. Geelong already went through one of the more spectacular versions where they ended up spending hours at the ground and sleeping under tables etc.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on July 18, 2021, 02:50:03 AM
Well I won this week's tipping!  ;D

Though the results didn't stop being bizarre. A draw between Melbourne and Hawthorn?? And the GWS v Sydney game might have a final scoreline you expect, but GWS lost after establishing a 5-goal lead in the first quarter.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 18, 2021, 04:28:25 AM
Well I won this week's tipping!  ;D

Though the results didn't stop being bizarre. A draw between Melbourne and Hawthorn?? And the GWS v Sydney game might have a final scoreline you expect, but GWS lost after establishing a 5-goal lead in the first quarter.

Congrats  ;D 

It's just all over the shop. Essendon in 8th now after their diabolical start of season, and 6 teams in contention for that last spot.

Exciting stuff ahead  8)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 22, 2021, 02:45:00 AM
Can they make another smidgen of an effort on the timing on Geelong-Richmond Sunday at all please ?

6.20am is better than 4.30am but it is a Sunday morning...another hour would be acceptable :P

(this is obviously tongue in cheek, glad at least there is a game given the circumstances  :) )
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Holden on July 22, 2021, 12:44:46 PM
This weekends round is actually a combination of some of the games from rounds 19 & 20 with the others from those two rounds to hopefully be played next week. All this is covid related of course with parts of Melbourne in lockdown.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on July 24, 2021, 09:30:43 PM
guess who got up at 6.20am to watch a game of AFL on a Sunday...  :blank:

Nevermind that Olympics stuff...

I'd rather watch the face of the Richmond coach gets increasingly irate as the score ticks along...  >:D

Note to self: 41 pts at H-T means nothing  0:)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 14, 2021, 01:30:12 AM
That ladder looks sweet...  8)

Woke up at half time so I missed the Cats being at -31...they like to make it hard for themselves  :-X

Next week's final game against Melbourne could be interesting. It seems Port Adelaide is the team to avoid right in week one of the play offs...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 14, 2021, 02:49:08 AM
That ladder looks sweet...  8)

Woke up at half time so I missed the Cats being at -31...they like to make it hard for themselves  :-X

Next week's final game against Melbourne could be interesting. It seems Port Adelaide is the team to avoid right in week one of the play offs...

Port Adelaide has failed to beat any of the other contenders. It beats all the lower teams, but in the big matches it falls over.

My tipping last week was completely chaotic. This week is looking marginally better, but it would really help if someone could explain what happened to the Western Bulldogs lately.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 14, 2021, 03:51:32 AM
Port Adelaide has failed to beat any of the other contenders. It beats all the lower teams, but in the big matches it falls over.

My tipping last week was completely chaotic. This week is looking marginally better, but it would really help if someone could explain what happened to the Western Bulldogs lately.

Bad timing to have a slump...and they have lost Josh Bruce as well.

Just 1 behind in Q4 today, it's incredible.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 20, 2021, 03:54:43 AM
it would really help if someone could explain what happened to the Western Bulldogs lately.

I guess you could say that again today !! What the hell... What a timing for PA to beat a top 4 team...

So if I have got this right, we are guaranteed a second chance game in any case. If we lose tomorrow against Melbourne, we stay third we play at Port Adelaide in the 2nd Qualifying final. If we win, we finish top and we play at home against either Bulldogs or Lions in the 1st Qualifying Final. If we draw, we play Melbourne again in the 2nd Qualifying Final. Does that sound right ? I assume the Swans need to big a difference swing to reach 4th, with needing Brisbane to lose as well. Not even sure which option is good or bad anymore, just happy to be there  ;D

ps: I am here for absolutely anybody tomorrow between 10am and 1pm  8)

pps: If, by sheer accident, luck or simply talented timing, Geelong finishes top tomorrow, please send my best regards to your sister  :laugh:  >:D

ppps: I love this sport  :)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 20, 2021, 04:27:03 AM
Yes, you're right that Geelong is guaranteed a top 4 spot. You already were. The question is whether they can get a home ground advantage for the finals (subject of course to all the wild things happening with Covid, though really it's only Sydney that is in truly uncharted territory).

As for tonight... I tipped Port Adelaide to win, with a margin of 5 points. I was absolutely on tenterhooks towards the end, and I was panicking in the last 10 seconds!!

I haven't watched many games this year truth be told, but when I saw the draw for this week I knew I'd be watching the top 4 four teams playing each other. It's kind of amazing that's how the year has panned out. Melbourne didn't even make the finals last year.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 20, 2021, 05:45:49 AM
As for tonight... I tipped Port Adelaide to win, with a margin of 5 points. I was absolutely on tenterhooks towards the end, and I was panicking in the last 10 seconds!!

I can imagine the relief seeing that last kick being handed behind !

Great tipping shout.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 20, 2021, 05:49:39 AM
And yet... I've just found out I wasn't closest on the margin!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 20, 2021, 06:09:04 AM
And yet... I've just found out I wasn't closest on the margin!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

oh this changes everything...

I'll downgrade you from Great Tipping Shout to Good Effort then   :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 20, 2021, 02:34:37 PM
It looks like Geelong v Melbourne isn’t on TV here. Subscription only.

Bugger that. Unless streaming from the AFL website is a possibility.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Holden on August 20, 2021, 09:35:44 PM
It looks like Geelong v Melbourne isn’t on TV here. Subscription only.

Bugger that. Unless streaming from the AFL website is a possibility.

I think you can do it via the AFL app.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 21, 2021, 12:25:50 AM
I think you can do it via the AFL app.

Looks like it's the same as the website - radio access, not video. The website has plenty of little clips judging by the Brisbane/West Coast match, but not full broadcast. For the matches not on the 7 network, it's all about watching on Kayo. I hated Kayo when I tried it and I'm not signing up again for one match.

The biggest problem is that, if you're in NSW/ACT, the deal is they show you matches involving Sydney or GWS every week no matter what. So guess what? Instead of 1st vs 2nd I can watch GWS play Carlton. Yay.  :-X
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 12:43:50 AM
Looks like the AFL website scrapped the live pass options at the start of this season.

On the website now, you only get highlights videos of 5-7 minutes on the day of the game itself. Then, at some point on the next day, they then upload the four full quarters of each game under Matches > Match videos > Match replays. This is how I have caught up whatever game that wasn't on BT sport over here.

A search for Aussie rules free streaming might give you alternatives  0:)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 21, 2021, 01:12:50 AM
Oh well.  By tomorrow I'll be watching premier league highlights instead...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 01:15:48 AM
Brisbane pipped the Bulldogs to fourth spot then...

The % difference between them is only made up by 7 points more or so scored over the season  :o
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 01:42:50 AM
8 unanswered goals in Q2...

I won't get carried away... nope...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 21, 2021, 01:59:36 AM
8 unanswered goals in Q2...

I won't get carried away... nope...

Oh go on, get carried away.

I love how quickly you've learned the way that leads can evaporate, but now I feel like you think they evaporate in every game.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 02:20:16 AM
Oh go on, get carried away.

I love how quickly you've learned the way that leads can evaporate, but now I feel like you think they evaporate in every game.  :laugh:

oh I am buzzing right now but you are actually right on your last point  ;D

I still find it "difficult" to work out when Geelong is actually in control (more or less) of a game, even with a +20 or a +30. A couple of missed kicks or marks and the game can turn on its head quickly. On average, it's what, one goal every minute and a half or two minutes in a game ? So, I only relax when there is only 5-6 minutes to go  :laugh:   
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 02:48:25 AM
6 in a row for Melbourne...

case in point...  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 21, 2021, 02:58:25 AM
6 in a row for Melbourne...

case in point...  :laugh:

Oh goodness. Just looked at the score (after finishing Dvorak's 1st symphony). Very tight.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 03:09:18 AM
oh my days....

Geelong just crumbled...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 21, 2021, 03:09:45 AM
Oh. My. God.

I was listening to the radio feed for the last few minutes.

The entire season coming down to a kick after the siren. Incredible.

Sorry, Olivier, but that's just amazing even though it didn't go your way.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 03:19:42 AM
There's no room for complaint really. We saw Rohan score one after the siren some weeks ago in a reverse situation. One has to accept it can go the other way sometime.

Also I would have bitten your hand off for that third spot a few months ago to be fair.

My new motto: 44 points means nothing  :laugh:

I'll console myself by thinking that it might be slightly better to face Port A instead of the Lions, but it'll be a tough one to bounce back mentally from today. Maybe the second chance will come in handy. 

What a sport, mate. What a sport.

Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 21, 2021, 03:31:14 AM
My Melbourne-supporting friend/colleague claims that's the first time Melbourne have won with a kick after the siren in 124 years, ie since the start of the competition.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 03:34:15 AM
My Melbourne-supporting friend/colleague claims that's the first time Melbourne have won with a kick after the siren in 124 years, ie since the start of the competition.

Ok we'll let him/her have that one  ;)

It's not as if they have won the flag anyway >:D  :P
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 27, 2021, 12:31:55 AM
and so starts the business end today...  8)

Not going to lie...

i'm a bit nervous  ???
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 27, 2021, 02:02:19 AM
29 pts down means nothing...

until it does  :blank:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on August 27, 2021, 02:50:29 AM
Somehow I knew you'd be here...
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on August 27, 2021, 03:03:04 AM
We are being outplayed, outclassed, outpaced, annihilated (to put it mildly).
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on September 04, 2021, 03:53:33 AM
Well, Brisbane v Western Bulldogs was completely gripping.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on September 04, 2021, 05:03:05 AM
Sitting on a beach in Brittany France has had me side-tracked AFL-wise  0:) with no access to BT sport, I nearly missed following the Cats timeline yesterday. Proper service will resume next weekend for the preliminary finals  8)

Might stream this weekends games later if it rains  :laugh:
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on September 10, 2021, 06:45:20 AM
Minus 80 pts means nothing something...

it means that the season is over in my biased format  ;D

There was no contest really.

Now I can enjoy the 2 remaining games in a neutral way.

Very happy of my maiden AFL viewing season in any case  :)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on September 10, 2021, 01:39:09 PM
Immediately the debates have started about whether the Geelong team are too old, why do they keep getting this far yet no further, etc.

Meanwhile they’re not the only team that Melbourne has overpowered. But it was pretty comprehensive. And heck, Melbourne haven’t actually won a premiership in my lifetime.
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on September 11, 2021, 01:56:58 AM
Immediately the debates have started about whether the Geelong team are too old, why do they keep getting this far yet no further, etc.

Meanwhile they’re not the only team that Melbourne has overpowered. But it was pretty comprehensive.

I understood over the season that Geelong's style was slower paced anyway and based on gradually building the phases but we too often got outplayed by full speed passing and not just yesterday.

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And heck, Melbourne haven’t actually won a premiership in my lifetime.

Well that's long.  :P

Looks like the Bulldogs are back all guns blazing (based on the 1st half). That should be a cracker of a final. Is it next week or in a fortnight ?
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on September 11, 2021, 02:44:31 AM
A fortnight, it’s scheduled for the 25th.

EDIT: And it looks like it’s going to be the match-up a lot of neutrals wanted... only it’ll be in Perth!
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on September 11, 2021, 03:45:55 AM
A fortnight, it’s scheduled for the 25th.

EDIT: And it looks like it’s going to be the match-up a lot of neutrals wanted... only it’ll be in Perth!

ok thank you.

That's one I'll get up for, whatever time it will be up here  :)
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on September 25, 2021, 12:14:52 AM
1 minute to the siren  8)

Enjoy the final, guys !
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Madiel on September 25, 2021, 04:10:11 AM
It was kind of amazing. You know all about momentum swings in AFL. That was a big one!
Title: Re: The AFL / Aussie Rules Thread
Post by: Papy Oli on September 25, 2021, 04:41:40 AM
It was kind of amazing. You know all about momentum swings in AFL. That was a big one!

Quite !

An awesome game to wrap up the season, with a very worthy winner indeed.

I have had a cracking maiden season as a "supporter", I think I just might be back in March  ;)