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Title: Belarusian composers
Post by: Maciek on June 21, 2007, 03:00:24 PM
And another continuation from an old topic (http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,13754.0.html).

Has anyone discovered something interesting in this area lately?

Maciek
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: karlhenning on July 09, 2009, 07:28:19 AM
TTT
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: karlhenning on July 09, 2009, 11:11:46 AM
Perhaps the question is, Does anyone know of a Belarusian composer?
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Maciek on July 10, 2009, 04:10:51 AM
I guess the political climate over there isn't conducive to any sort of cultural exchange with the rest of the world (both directions).




I don't think I ever mentioned this CD in the old thread:

(http://merlin.pl/Koncerty-i-Muzyka-Kameralna_Acte-Prealable,images_big,6,AP0042.jpg)

Acte Prealable AP0042

Oboe concerto      
Sonata for clarinet solo      
Trombone concerto      
Three portraits of Radoslava      
Four sentimental reminiscences      
Small triptych for four trumpets
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: karlhenning on July 10, 2009, 04:55:07 AM
I should be glad of a look at the Sonata for unaccompanied clarinet, of course.
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Maciek on July 10, 2009, 04:59:39 AM
Here is a description of the disc I found on the Acte Prealable web page (http://www.acteprealable.com/albums/ap0042.html):

QuoteThis Belarussian composer speaks the increasingly wide-spread language of neo-romanticism, lightly seasoned with minimalism, of which the latest example was Elisabetta Brusa. Gorelova is less sunny and brassy than Brusa, her Slavic soul showing itself in a minor-key, brooding quality which informs many of the six movements of her two concertos but, as in the last movement of the "Oboe concerto" and in the second of the "Trombone concerto", Slavic folklore and clear, high spirits come into play also. In the solo instrument pieces and in the "Portraits", some atonality appears, along with extended playing techniques but these are meant as fodder for the soloists and the general mood in these pieces is rather neo-classicism. This should appeal to all collectors of readily communicative modern music. Records International
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: karlhenning on July 10, 2009, 05:02:53 AM
Well, I'm not much of a lad for extended techniques, 'tis true.
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Maciek on July 10, 2009, 05:10:55 AM
Not even when meant as fodder for the soloists? ;D
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: karlhenning on July 10, 2009, 05:18:43 AM
This soloist scorns fodder  8)
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Maciek on July 10, 2009, 05:25:47 AM
If I ever get the disc, I'll let you know how good the fodder is for the listener (this listener, in any case). (Found it available here (http://merlin.pl/Koncerty-i-Muzyka-Kameralna_Acte-Prealable/browse/product/4,289050.html) and here (http://kmt.pl/pozycja.asp?DZ=&KsID=5873&kstr=1), if anyone is interested.)
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Drasko on July 10, 2009, 05:54:47 AM
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/97/37/884d62e89da076269eaa4110.L.jpg)

Well, I have this, can't say that I like the music, can't say that even remember much of it...except for the first movement of 5th Symphony which revolves around theme which sounds to me like straight out of Star Trek. I'm not really familiar with Star Trek but I'm sure I heard something at least very similar.
Here's the entire first movement (some 8 minutes):
[mp3=200,20,0,left]http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/24/2018019/Track%20No01.mp3[/mp3]
First the theme appears in winds around 2:45, then taken by strings and brass at 3:40 and then recapitulated at 6:10.
Am I hearing things? Do we have any trekkies around?
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: jimmosk on July 11, 2009, 06:17:36 PM
Quote from: Drasko on July 10, 2009, 05:54:47 AM
Am I hearing things? Do we have any trekkies around?

I wouldn't call myself a Trekkie, but I do know and love Jerry Goldsmith's music for Star Trek, The Motion Picture -- whose title theme later was used as the theme for the television program Star Trek: The Next Generation.  You're right to hear a resemblance, but only for two bars or so; then it develops in a radically different, and as you'd expect more complex, way.  I don't think this could be used to support a plagiarism charge, just an independent creation of a somewhat similar theme.
For real plagiarism, you want something like the note-for-note use of the ending of Strauss's Macbeth by Danny Elfman in the music for the 1989 Batman movie, or James Horner cribbing from Hindemith in his music for Willow.

Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: vandermolen on July 12, 2009, 01:04:34 AM
In Star Wars I think that John Williams cribbed from The Love of Three Oranges by Prokofiev.

I listened to the Glebov CD last night following the discussion here. I liked the second movement of the Symphony more than the first - it has a nice lyrical passage. Certainly I will listen again. The ballet from 'The Little Prince' (St Exupery - one of my favourite books) also had some endearing sequences - like film music.  Basically I preferred Glebov's quieter lyrical sequences to the sub-Shostakovich louder sections. After an unpromising start I enjoyed the CD more than expected and thanks for reviving the thread.
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Maciek on October 18, 2010, 06:14:58 AM
While googling for information about Vsevolod Gritskevich, I found this nice page about Belarusian composers:
http://www.hanjonkers.com/english/booklet4.htm (http://www.hanjonkers.com/english/booklet4.htm)

(Actually, it was one of two pages the search returned. ::))
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Popov on October 18, 2010, 06:55:12 AM
I downloaded the Glebov CD a couple years ago and enjoyed it a good deal. Glebov seems indeed more personal in his most tender music (the suite is absolutely lovely music), but Aurora (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejMR6wsNkQ8)-style music is a big weakness of mine, so I really enjoyed the Symphony as a whole back then. It has been very nice to listen to the 1st movement after so much time. 

Has someone listened to the other releases of Olympia's Belorussian Series?

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3739/41pucppnsylsl500aa300.jpg) (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1066/41nfw84y47lsl500aa300.jpg)
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: dhibbard on January 25, 2014, 07:58:37 PM
I uploaded a bunch of Belarussian music on the Art Music forum .... and also updated the list of composers from Belarus.
enjoy !
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Zeus on April 13, 2018, 08:07:49 AM
Alla Borzova is from Belarus (left in '93).  Naxos has released a number of her albums.  I have this one:

Borzova: Songs for Lada; To the New World

[asin] B007N0SXUY[/asin]

It's pretty good, maybe better.
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Mirror Image on April 13, 2018, 08:16:44 AM
Quote from: The Fish Knows... on April 13, 2018, 08:07:49 AM
Alla Borzova is from Belarus (left in '93).  Naxos has released a number of her albums.  I have this one:

Borzova: Songs for Lada; To the New World

[asin] B007N0SXUY[/asin]

It's pretty good, maybe better.

To the bolded text: Naxos has only released one recording of any of this composer's music. I'm not sure if there are more for download however, but this is the only physical disc you can buy.
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: Zeus on April 13, 2018, 08:44:24 AM
Curious.  I must have had a very lucid dream to the contrary.  I found one more Borzova disc on Albany.

Pinsk And Blue - Chamber Music Of Alla Borzova

(http://www.arkivmusic.com/graphics/covers/full/98/985261.jpg)

Hmm.  Color me confused.
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: dhibbard on April 13, 2018, 11:27:45 AM
I found on eBay a 2 CD set of classical music of Belarus.   I don' t know if its still there.    Let me look.
Title: Re: Belarusian composers
Post by: musicrom on April 16, 2018, 07:09:52 PM
Part of the problem is that Belarus hasn't been a sovereign nation for very long - it's been part of Lithuania, Poland, Russia, USSR, and only in 1991 did it gain independence.

Stanisław Moniuszko is often considered Polish, but he was born in modern-day Belarus, and he is quite popular over there (probably best known for the opera Halka). Arthur Lourié was also born in modern-day Belarus, but is usually considered Russian. He's probably the most well-known composer born in the country, although I'm less familiar with his music than I'd like to be.

I've heard some of Evgeny Glebov's ballet, Till Eulenspiegel, which is available on Youtube, and is pretty good.

Besides these, I haven't found many of note.