Bruckner's Abbey

[toledobass]

I am betting that was our member ToledoBass, a.k.a. "Allan."   

I was there with my youngest son for that concert and it was marvelous to hear such an excellent performance live...in a cathedral!  Even my son, who does not praise anything or anybody very much at all, said "pretty good!"   

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[toledobass]

Yes. (Sorry, I momentarily forgot his username.) And good for you for bringing your son! Conventional wisdom might be something like "kids will never groove on Bruckner" but it sounds like this had an impact. Who knows, in 20 years, your son may say, "Dad, thanks for taking me to that awesome concert."

-Bruce

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[Cato]

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Hi Allan!  Thanks for stopping by!

[brewski]

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Allan! The bass from Toledo returns!

-Bruce

[toledobass]

Allan! The bass from Toledo returns!

-Bruce

Greetings sir. I trust all is well and that the cocktails still delicious!

A

[JBS]

The Hänssler recording of the 6th with Gielen is also very good but I think his best Bruckner (I have not heard all of it, they dug out radio and live recordings for a complete box) are #5 and #7.

I happen to have the Gielen set handy (I'm planning to give it another listen soon) Symphonies 1, 8, and 9 are "Live-Aufnahme"; the rest are "Studio-Aufnahme".

[lordlance]

Another new Bruckner 4 alongside the Dausgaard/Bergen:



Poschner's third recording of the 4th after the 1876 and 1878-80 versions. Once the Poschner and Schaller cycles are complete, we shall have three cycles that document Bruckner's various versions of his symphonies (Rozhdestvensky being the first.) Not bad. If you include the Hrusa set, then of the 4th alone we have 4 different conductors tackling the multiple editions.

[relm1]

I love that wall of sound from the low brass in Bruckner 8.  It's one of the great trombone moments.  Playing loud, open chords like these makes vibrates your whole body when you play it.  You feel the frequencies throughout your body - it's a very difficult thing to describe to those who haven't experienced it but you are inside the music, enveloped by it.

[Roasted Swan]

I love that wall of sound from the low brass in Bruckner 8.  It's one of the great trombone moments.  Playing loud, open chords like these makes vibrates your whole body when you play it.  You feel the frequencies throughout your body - it's a very difficult thing to describe to those who haven't experienced it but you are inside the music, enveloped by it.

they make a great sound - but hearing just a low brass section playing just low brass bits is VERY NICHE!! Has anyone ever arranged a full Bruckner Symphony for Brass Ensemble?

[Jo498]

I happen to have the Gielen set handy (I'm planning to give it another listen soon) Symphonies 1, 8, and 9 are "Live-Aufnahme"; the rest are "Studio-Aufnahme".

There were also studio recordings with Gielen of 8 (I have it) and (I think) of 9 that had been on intercord (and maybe other labels) in the late 1980s or early 1990s. For the box they must have opted for different live recordings. (I also think the #2 is a broadcast recording that was never available before; from the 50s through the 70s there were quite a few radio productions that never appeared on LP/CD. AFAIK most of the SWF Rosbaud boxes are based on such radio productions.

[brewski]

Greetings sir. I trust all is well and that the cocktails still delicious!

A

Thank you. Life is definitely in the "not bad" category, and perhaps it is time to create a new drink, The Toledo Bass! Something big, something substantial, with lots of low frequences. (Feel free to recommend ingredients, though not here—perhaps in the "What are you drinking?" thread.)

-Bruce

[vers la flamme]

they make a great sound - but hearing just a low brass section playing just low brass bits is VERY NICHE!! Has anyone ever arranged a full Bruckner Symphony for Brass Ensemble?

The 4th might survive such treatment.

I'm curious about the organ transcriptions of complete Bruckner symphonies. I also chanced upon the score of a piano transcription of Bruckner's 5th, while browsing on Amazon yesterday, and I'm wondering if anyone has played it or any other Bruckner symphony on solo piano.

[Franco_Manitobain]

The 4th might survive such treatment.

I'm curious about the organ transcriptions of complete Bruckner symphonies. I also chanced upon the score of a piano transcription of Bruckner's 5th, while browsing on Amazon yesterday, and I'm wondering if anyone has played it or any other Bruckner symphony on solo piano.

No, but there is a recording of Gerd Schaller performing Bruckner's 9th on an organ. Not interested in it however.

[JBS]

No, but there is a recording of Gerd Schaller performing Bruckner's 9th on an organ. Not interested in it however.

Schaller has also done the 5th.
Oehms is releasing a series that will cover all the symphonies, including the Nullte. It seems to reached the 6th.


Amazon shows three other individual recordings


Other than Rogg I know nothing about the organists involved.

[Lisztianwagner]

and I'm wondering if anyone has played it or any other Bruckner symphony on solo piano.

There are the transcriptions for piano duo too, but I know nothing about the pianists:

[Cato]

There are the transcriptions for piano duo too, but I know nothing about the pianists:

Do you know who arranged the transcriptions?  I believe Gustav Mahler transcribed the Symphony #3 and Josef Schalk seems to have arranged the Symphony #5 for 2 pianos: whether he butchered it in the same way that he did the orchestral score, I do not know.

[Lisztianwagner]

Do you know who arranged the transcriptions?  I believe Gustav Mahler transcribed the Symphony #3 and Josef Schalk seems to have arranged the Symphony #5 for 2 pianos: whether he butchered it in the same way that he did the orchestral score, I do not know.

I saw Symphony No. 0 was arranged by August Stradal, No. 1 and 4 by Ferdinand Löwe, No. 2,6 and 8 by Joseph Schalk, No. 3 by Gustav Mahler, No. 5 by Otto Singer, No. 7 by Joseph and Franz Schalk, and No. 9 by Joseph Schalk and Ferdinand Löwe.

[lordlance]

I recently hear two Sinopoli performances:





The Ninth was really well done - truly grandiose as Bruckner needs in contrast with the Poschner 4th that I posted earlier - that one was underwhelming in climaxes but that may well be a completely different approach to Bruckner of "fast and lean" - the latter sounds antithetical to Bruckner.

The Third was good too except for the bizarre code of the 3rd movement which seems slapped on haphazardly.

[Cato]

I recently hear two Sinopoli performances:





The Ninth was really well done - truly grandiose as Bruckner needs in contrast with the Poschner 4th that I posted earlier - that one was underwhelming in climaxes but that may well be a completely different approach to Bruckner of "fast and lean" - the latter sounds antithetical to Bruckner.

The Third was good too except for the bizarre coda of the 3rd movement which seems slapped on haphazardly.

Thanks for the reviews!

Concerning your last sentence: do you mean that you find the coda itself to be bizarre, or that the way Sinopoli conducted it made it seem bizarre and "slapped on haphazardly"?

[vers la flamme]

Yes, thank you for the reviews, Lordlance. Very curious to hear Sinopoli's Bruckner now.