Emotion in Classical Music Experiment

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Shatera

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Hello.  My name is Tyson Platt, and I am a Professor of Psychology at Alabama State University.  I am currently investigating how listeners detect and experience emotional content in experimental music.  To that end, I need your help!  I am conducting an experiment on the detection of emotional content in experimental music, and I am seeking participants for the experiment.  If you are interested in participating in the experiment, please follow this link to learn more about the research and participate in the experiment.  The experiment will take approximately 20 minutes to complete.  During the experiment, you will be asked to listen to a clip of music and indicate what emotional content you detect in the music.  You will not be asked to provide any identifiable information (e.g., name, address, etc.) during the experiment.  Please be aware that you must be at least 18 years of age to participate in the experiment.  If you are willing to participate in this research, please only complete the experiment once.  Thank you for your help.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DrewAustin

Brahmsian


DavidW

Quote from: OrchestralNut on March 14, 2023, 11:40:39 AMThe link to the survey does not work.

The link is meant to be this: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/debarre

OP, this forum is small and we are all on different time zones.  Some patience please.  If anyone chooses to participate, it might still take 2-3 days.

vers la flamme

Done! I wanna read the paper when it's done  ;D

Florestan

#4
Looks like a hoax. I mean, is Jean DeBarre even a real composer? I very much doubt it. Besides Google never having heard about him, the description of his life* and work is completely at odd with the musical clip, which sounds like randomly generated sounds. ;D

* "the most sought-after composer in Paris", are we supposed to take this b****t seriously?
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

vers la flamme

Quote from: Florestan on March 15, 2023, 12:18:41 PMLooks like a hoax. I mean, is Jean DeBarre even a real composer? I very much doubt it. Besides Google never having heard about him, the description of his life* and work is completely at odd with the musical clip, which sounds like randomly generated sounds. ;D

* "the most sought-after composer in Paris", are we supposed to take this b****t seriously?

Obviously, it's not a real composer, and I don't think the makers of the study are trying to convince anyone that he is. I have a feeling you missed the point  ;D

DavidW

Quote from: Florestan on March 15, 2023, 12:18:41 PMLooks like a hoax. I mean, is Jean DeBarre even a real composer? I very much doubt it. Besides Google never having heard about him, the description of his life* and work is completely at odd with the musical clip, which sounds like randomly generated sounds. ;D

* "the most sought-after composer in Paris", are we supposed to take this b****t seriously?

That is funny because while I would not describe the music as blissful, it did sound humorous, mellow and light hearted to me.

Florestan

Quote from: vers la flamme on March 15, 2023, 01:34:41 PMObviously, it's not a real composer, and I don't think the makers of the study are trying to convince anyone that he is. I have a feeling you missed the point  ;D

My point is that I don't like to be duped, not even in academic interest.  ;D

I'm sure that many, if not most, who took the test and had little or no knowledge of 20th-century French music genuinely believed that Jean DeBarre was real.

Anyway, gotta love pronouncing "Jean" as "gin".  :D
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Florestan

Quote from: DavidW on March 15, 2023, 02:15:04 PMThat is funny because while I would not describe the music as blissful, it did sound humorous, mellow and light hearted to me.

To use Tyson Platt's terminology, I heard or felt no emotion at all. A flushing toilet or the traffic outside would have sounded all the same to me. I guess I'm a sociopath.  ;D
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Florestan

There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

vers la flamme

Quote from: Florestan on March 15, 2023, 11:23:32 PMBtw:

https://soundcloud.com/tyson-platt-1

https://homerecording.com/bbs/threads/emotion-in-music-experiment.420338/#post-4750712





Interesting that you and that guy had the same very strong negative reaction to this study. That's gotta be worth something, academically, on its own.  ;)

Brahmsian

I had done the survey a few days ago and I just tried to rush through answering the questions so it probably wasn't an accurate assessment. And now I just feel duped.

DavidW

Quote from: OrchestralNut on March 16, 2023, 02:49:36 AMI had done the survey a few days ago and I just tried to rush through answering the questions so it probably wasn't an accurate assessment. And now I just feel duped.

What, you've never heard of the famous Jean DeBarre?!?  Debussy credited him with teaching him the importance of bliss in music.  He never would have wrote Pelléas et Mélisande if he wasn't so deeply inspired by DeBarre's work.  You must have missed the enormous thread on DeBarre that dwarfs even the Havergal Brian thread!

Florestan

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Quote from: DavidW on March 16, 2023, 03:15:32 AMWhat, you've never heard of the famous Jean DeBarre?!?  Debussy credited him with teaching him the importance of bliss in music.  He never would have wrote Pelléas et Mélisande if he wasn't so deeply inspired by DeBarre's work

Actually, that's not Jean DeBarre, he was born in 1919. It's Jean-Marie DeBarre, his father's uncle, born in 1841. In the 1870s he was the  most sought-after composer in Sainte-Fredegonde-de-Chateaulouche.
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

pjme

#14
It is clearly stated that De Barre is a FICTIONAL composer.... :)
Wish he was real though and looking like this, par example...



Jean Auguste Barre par Nadar
and it would sound like this ...


or



Michel de la Barre (c. 1675 – 15 March 1745)

or is it ...Jean De Barre (de mesure)? ;D




Cato

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Quote from: pjme on March 17, 2023, 07:43:52 AMIt is clearly stated that De Barre is a FICTIONAL composer.... :)
Wish he was real though and looking like this, par example...



Jean Auguste Barre par Nadar
and it would sound like this ...







The "French Symphony" is a real find: one of the best works by Theodore Dubois.

Does anyone recognize the work in the experiment?

It sounds like an imitation of Webern's Concerto for 9 Instruments or Improvise' by Pierre Boulez.

Those works, however, are more interesting.

Somebody suggested that it was computer-generated (?).
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Shatera

Quote from: Shatera on March 12, 2023, 11:14:19 PMUpdated
Experiment

Hello.  My name is Tyson
Quote from: Shatera on March 12, 2023, 11:14:19 PMUpdated
Experiment

Hello.  My name is Tyson Platt, and I am a Professor of Psychology at Alabama State University.  I am currently investigating how listeners detect and experience emotional content in experimental music.  To that end, I need your help!  I am conducting an experiment on the detection of emotional content in experimental music, and I am seeking participants for the experiment.  If you are interested in participating in the experiment, please follow this link to learn more about the research and participate in the experiment.  The experiment will take approximately 20 minutes to complete.  During the experiment, you will be asked to listen to a clip of music and indicate what emotional content you detect in the music.  You will not be asked to provide any identifiable information (e.g., name, address, etc.) during the experiment.  Please be aware that you must be at least 18 years of age to participate in the experiment.  If you are willing to participate in this research, please only complete the experiment once.  Thank you for your help.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DrewAustin
Platt, and I am a Professor of Psychology at Alabama State University.  I am currently investigating how listeners detect and experience emotional content in experimental music.  To that end, I need your help!  I am conducting an experiment on the detection of emotional content in experimental music, and I am seeking participants for the experiment.  If you are interested in participating in the experiment, please follow this link to learn more about the research and participate in the experiment.  The experiment will take approximately 20 minutes to complete.  During the experiment, you will be asked to listen to a clip of music and indicate what emotional content you detect in the music.  You will not be asked to provide any identifiable information (e.g., name, address, etc.) during the experiment.  Please be aware that you must be at least 18 years of age to participate in the experiment.  If you are willing to participate in this research, please only complete the experiment once.  Thank you for your help.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DrewAustin

SimonNZ

Is this a Turing test for someone trying to develop and ultimately market an AI?

If so I'm going to want to be paid for my assistance.

Cato

Quote from: SimonNZ on March 21, 2023, 03:57:24 PMIs this a Turing test for someone trying to develop and ultimately market an AI?

If so I'm going to want to be paid for my assistance.


I have been skeptical of this topic somewhat, but the last non-comment from "Shatera"/Prof. Tyson Platt made me wonder even more!

So I found that a Professor Tyson Platt does indeed teach at an Alabama university: I sent him an e-mail inquiring whether this topic is really from him.

No answer yet, but it is still early.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Florestan

Quote from: Cato on March 22, 2023, 11:09:04 AMI have been skeptical of this topic somewhat, but the last non-comment from "Shatera"/Prof. Tyson Platt made me wonder even more!

So I found that a Professor Tyson Platt does indeed teach at an Alabama university: I sent him an e-mail inquiring whether this topic is really from him.

No answer yet, but it is still early.

One Tyson Platt does have a soundcloud account with three clips, where one and the same "music" is ascribed to three  different fictional composers (see my reply #9).

It's most certainly a hoax. Whether Prof. Platt (whose reality I also checked a week ago) is consciously involved or not, I cannot tell.
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy