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The Music Room => Composer Discussion => Topic started by: Ugh! on November 07, 2008, 11:42:48 PM

Title: Marcel Duchamp
Post by: Ugh! on November 07, 2008, 11:42:48 PM
Between 1912 and 1915 Duchamp composed at least three musical works (one of them more of a musical happening).

Erratum Musical
Chance composition for three voices

The Bride Stripped Bare by Her Bachelors Even. Erratum Musical
Unfinished chance composition for mechanical instrument, involving a specific apparatus for determining musical intervals.

Musical Sculpture
Incomplete manuscript that seems to point forward to the "happening" works of the Fluxus movement in the 60's.

Petr Kotik has argued that although Marcel Duchamp's musical oeuvre is sparse, these pieces represent a radical departure from anything done up until that time...

What do you think?
Title: Re: Marcel Duchamp
Post by: Ugh! on November 08, 2008, 06:40:24 AM
Was that cryptified or I ching'ed? I think I was able to identify some of the missing words, not using any particular system:

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As far as I am able to tell, you are referring to some kind of experiment you did yourself 20 years ago, based on the second of the mentioned Duchamp chance works, replacing pecans for balls, I vaguely recall you mentioning something about that in a mail but couldn't find it... ?
Title: Re: Marcel Duchamp
Post by: Ugh! on November 09, 2008, 02:00:49 AM
Some of the time I was tapping out the Danse Sacrale with the spacebar and delete keys (Thinking of Duchamp's thing about Dictionary "First cross out the words to be crossed out" but toipping a hat to Louis Andriessen).

Embedding the conceptual ideas of composers in the very act of typing replies in a forum about them certainly takes it to another level ;) I wonder whether there are forums about the first world war in which all posts are written in ADFGX chipher  8)