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Title: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on July 20, 2016, 07:21:54 PM
I'll start....

Rachmaninov
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Schnittke
Weinberg
Stravinsky
Mussorgsky
Scriabin
Lyadov
Myaskovsky
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Autumn Leaves on July 20, 2016, 07:27:33 PM
My list:

Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Rimsky-Korsakov
Tchaikovsky
Rachmaninov
Glazunov
Mussorgsky
Stravinsky
Taneyev
Khachaturian
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 20, 2016, 09:01:00 PM
Stravinsky
Schnittke
Gubaidulina
Shostakovich
Firsova
Ustvolskaya
Shchedrin
Scriabin
Raskatov

and I am really stuck on a tenth one...........

Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: North Star on July 20, 2016, 11:50:00 PM
Prokofiev
Rachmaninov
Tchaikovsky
Stravinsky
Shostakovich
Schnittke
Mussorgsky
Scriabin
Rimsky-Korsakov
Lyadov
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Wanderer on July 21, 2016, 12:05:22 AM
Not in order:

Tchaikovsky
Prokofiev
Medtner
Rachmaninov
Scriabin
Shostakovich
Stravinsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Mussorgsky
Borodin? Gubaidulina? Taneyev? Schnittke? Myaskovsky? Protopopov? Tcherepnin? Ustvolskaya? Pick one.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Florestan on July 21, 2016, 12:31:51 AM
Only 10? Impossible. Top 3 is easier.  :D

Tchaikovsky
Rachmaninoff
Shostakovich







Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 21, 2016, 02:23:46 PM
Only 10? Impossible. Top 3 is easier.  :D

Tchaikovsky
Rachmaninoff
Shostakovich

Well, who are some other favourites if you could go beyond 10?
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Chronochromie on July 21, 2016, 02:29:33 PM
1. Stravinsky

2. Scriabin and Prokofiev

3. Mussorgsky and Gubaidulina

4. Rachmaninov and Shostakovich

5. Rimsky-Korsakov, Borodin and Glazunov
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on July 21, 2016, 02:39:05 PM
you guys are good ! i can't even name 10, let alone 10 favorites.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on July 21, 2016, 08:09:42 PM
Prokofiev
Scriabin
Stravinsky
Rachmaninov
Shostakovich
Tchaikovsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Mussorgsky
Medtner
Schnittke

Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: 71 dB on July 22, 2016, 01:33:41 AM
Weinberg and Taneyev are my favorite Russian Composers. Other Russian composers have great music, which I enjoy a lot, but those two are my favorites at the moment.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2016, 01:39:16 AM
Well, who are some other favourites if you could go beyond 10?

In no particular order: Medtner, Prokofiev, Lyadov, Rimsky-Korsakov, Kalinnikov, Taneyev, Borodin, Glazunov, Chesnokov, Anton Rubinstein, Balakirev, Cui, Scriabin...
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Scion7 on July 22, 2016, 01:39:32 AM
^ Weinberg was a Polish Jew.  He later became a Russian citizen, of course, fleeing from Nazi-Germany's invasion of Poland in '39.

EDIT: And may Florestan suffer a thousand cuts of the blade for posting at the same time as I did thus messing up my beautiful upwards-pointing arrow comment.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 22, 2016, 01:40:48 AM
In no particular order: Medtner, Prokofiev, Lyadov, Rimsky-Korsakov, Kalinnikov, Taneyev, Borodin, Glazunov, Chesnokov, Anton Rubinstein, Balakirev, Cui, Scriabin...

I notice that Taneyev is a composer mentioned by many.....I haven't heard any Taneyev at all. Can you recommend something?
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: 71 dB on July 22, 2016, 01:41:28 AM
^ Weinberg was a Polish Jew.  He later became a Russian citizen, of course, fleeing from Nazi-Germany's invasion of Poland in '39.

Yes. If Weinberg is not accepted then Sergei Taneyev is my favorite Russian Composer!  :P
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: 71 dB on July 22, 2016, 01:44:33 AM
I notice that Taneyev is a composer mentioned by many.....I haven't heard any Taneyev at all. Can you recommend something?
This is a great CD to start with Taneyev:

Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Florestan on July 22, 2016, 01:47:13 AM
I notice that Taneyev is a composer mentioned by many.....I haven't heard any Taneyev at all. Can you recommend something?

First and foremost, the piano quintet, but his whole chamber output is exquisite.

Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: 71 dB on July 22, 2016, 01:52:29 AM
First and foremost, the piano quintet, but his whole chamber output is exquisite.
For the Piano Quintet (and Piano Quartet + Piano Trio) this is a great twofer:



 
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 22, 2016, 02:32:14 AM
Thanks for the recommendations! I shall take note and listen when I can. :)
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Drasko on July 22, 2016, 02:51:05 AM
Tchaikovsky
Scriabin
Stravinsky
Rachmaninov
Mussorgsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Mosolov
Popov
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Cato on July 22, 2016, 03:04:14 AM
This is a great CD to start with Taneyev:



Amen!  Again, allow me to proselytize for Taneyev's opera The Oresteia.

Liadov

Mussorgsky

Prokofiev

Rachmaninov

Rimsky-Korsakov

Scriabin

Stravinsky

Taneyev

Tchaikovsky

Scriabin

Shostakovich

Stravinsky

Wyschnegradsky


For those unacquainted with the last composer:

https://www.youtube.com/v/B9WPfkXQa_Y
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Sergeant Rock on July 22, 2016, 03:18:46 AM
Shostakovich
Prokoviev
Stravinsky
Rachmaninoff
Tchaikovsky
Myaskovsky
Schnittke
Kalinnikov
Arensky
Pavlova (with a sample from her Third Symphony)

https://www.youtube.com/v/XzYD-gtA-SQ
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2016, 07:00:08 AM
Bortnyansky
Glinka
Mussorgsky
Prokofiev
Rakhmaninov
Schnittke
Scriabin
Shostakovich
Stravinsky
Tchaikovsky
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: North Star on July 22, 2016, 07:09:55 AM
Bortnyansky
Hm, there's a name I don't recognize. Any particular works / recordings you'd recommend, Karl?
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2016, 08:25:06 AM
Hm, there's a name I don't recognize. Any particular works / recordings you'd recommend, Karl?

Cheers, Karlo!  I have some three or four CDs of the "sacred concerti";  I have not yet heard a note I did not like  8)

http://www.youtube.com/v/wLzJrQyzSJc
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: North Star on July 22, 2016, 08:31:47 AM
Cheers, Karlo!  I have some three or four CDs of the "sacred concerti";  I have not yet heard a note I did not like  8)

http://www.youtube.com/v/wLzJrQyzSJc
That is beautiful. Further investigation will be needed.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vandermolen on August 03, 2016, 02:32:29 AM
Miaskovsky
Shostakovich
Glazunov
Rachmaninov
Popov
Shebalin
Salmanov
Gliere
Liadov
Kabalevsky

If it was 'greatest' I'd have included Prokofiev, Mussorgsky and Rimsky Korsakov.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Androcles on August 22, 2016, 02:41:26 PM
Judging by how many discs I own of respective composers, probably something like
1. Tchaikovsky
2. Shostakovich
3. Miaskovsky
4. Prokofiev
5. Rachmaninov
6. Stravinsky
7. Schnittke
8. Scriabin
9. Mussorgsky
10. Gubaidulina

I have at least a few discs by each of these. I also have a few by some other composers that I like, but thats taking me beyond 10 and some of them are pretty obscure. See my thread on Zaderatsky, for example  :)


Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: springrite on August 22, 2016, 03:10:41 PM
In no particular order:

Prokofiev
Stravinsky
Rachmaninov
Veinberg
Schnittke
Dargomyzhsky
Scriabin
Rubenstein
Tanayev
Gubaidulina
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Androcles on August 28, 2016, 02:07:29 PM
In no particular order:

Prokofiev
Stravinsky
Rachmaninov
Veinberg
Schnittke
Dargomyzhsky
Scriabin
Rubenstein
Tanayev
Gubaidulina

Russian teachers of music history in Russian Conservatoires would approve of the inclusion of Dargomyzhsky.




Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: mszczuj on August 31, 2016, 07:53:40 AM
Prokofiev
Tchaikovsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Stravinsky
Balakiriev
Scriabin
Mussorgsky
Glazunov

and then the two loved for single works:

Kalinnikov
Lyapunov

Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on September 06, 2016, 03:44:15 PM
Pls everyone pls listen to more Firsova!
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: James on September 06, 2016, 03:57:26 PM
On a deep level, Stravinsky is the only Russian composer I really care about. Outside of that, there are only a handful of pieces I'm fond-of written by others.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: nathanb on September 06, 2016, 06:22:33 PM
Pls everyone pls listen to more Firsova!

I'll check him/her out if you listen to more Kourliandski.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Wanderer on September 06, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
Bortnyansky

Yes! Also, Gretchaninov. Definitely in my top 20.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vandermolen on September 06, 2016, 10:07:31 PM
Yes! Also, Gretchaninov. Definitely in my top 20.
Interesting. I must re listen to the CD I have containing two of his symphonies on the old Olympia label.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on September 24, 2016, 02:52:04 AM
Can't think of 10.

Rachmaninov
Tchaikovsky
Stravinsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Mussorgsky
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Dee Sharp on September 24, 2016, 03:12:28 AM
No order:

Rachmaninov
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Stravinsky
Mussorgsky
Miaskovsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Tchaikovsky
Taneyev
Gubaidulina
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: SymphonicAddict on December 13, 2016, 05:51:10 PM
Tchaikovsky (the king)
Prokofiev
Shostakovich
Rachmaninov
Taneyev
Myaskovsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Glazunov
Stravinsky
Khachaturian
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 13, 2016, 06:27:22 PM
I'll check him/her out if you listen to more Kourliandski.
I'm on it! ;)

Listening to the Riot of Spring which I am enjoying quite a bit!
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: musicrom on December 13, 2016, 08:11:47 PM
Off the top of my head...

1. Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov
2. Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky
3. Dmitri Shostakovich
4. Sergei Prokofiev
5. Igor Stravinsky
6. Alfred Schnittke
7. Sergei Rachmaninoff
8. Alexander Glazunov
9. Alexander Scriabin
10. Dmitry Kabalevsky
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Overtones on December 15, 2016, 10:14:17 AM
1) Prokofiev


2) Shostakovic
3) Stravinskij
4) Shnitke
5) Chajkovskij


6) Rachmaninov


7) Borodin
8 ) Skrjabin
9) Rimskij-Korsakov
10) Glazunov
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Florestan on November 06, 2017, 06:07:57 AM
(crosspost from the "What are you currently reading?" thread; too much fun to let it be buried there.)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BWPWwUwqL._SX315_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

This must be the most defamatory book I've ever read about anything and anyone.

What does one learn from it? Well, many lovely things such as:

1. All along the 19th century, but with roots in its deepest history, the Russian society was a stultifying, soul-poisoning mixture of madhouse and prison, marked by extreme vicioussness, depravity and perversion of both mind and body in all social strata.

2. All Russian composers from Glinka to Medtner, with the possible but improbable exception of Borodin but including Scriabin, were:

(a) emotionally repressed / immature / unstable;

(b) unable or unwilling to initiate, nurture and preserve healthy relationships with women, be it as wives, mistresses or friends;

(b) either very effeminate or aggresively mysoginistic, both instances betokening either latent / repressed / inveterate homosexuality or impotence, in many cases probably both;

(c) heavy drinkers (all things considered, though, this appears as their lesser, even endearing, vice) and heavy masturbators;

(c) damned if they did, damned if they didn't: Mussorgsky was freakish for drinking himself to death, but so was Balakirev for being a teetotaller; Mussorgsky (again; for Bowers he is clearly the poster boy for everything that was physically repugnant and morally repulsive in Imperial Russia) is chastised for willingly mingling with, and greatly enjoying the company of, the lowest scums, while Taneyev is reprimanded for being austere, polite and pudic.

3. The famous piano teacher Nikolai Zverev was actually an inveterate pederast for whom the piano lessons were only so many opportunities to pervert his innocent pupils (among his victims, Scriabin himself but also Rachmaninoff, Igumnov and Goldenweiser).

And all this marvelous stuff is scattered through the introductory chapters only. I guess, and expect, that the chapters dedicated to Scriabin proper will reveal more information.  ;D

One cannot help but wonder: how could such miserable, wretched and (depending on the readers' own moral stance) either despicable or pitiful human beings, fit rather for the mental asylum than for the salons, social circles and concert halls where they spent their lives,  have composed at all, let alone compose such music as they have composed.  :o

Seriously now, the book is funny (pun) in its own peculiar way.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: You did it on November 06, 2017, 06:23:39 AM
Scriabin
Stravinsky (duh  ::) )
Obukhov
Korndorf
Avraamov
Roslavets
Schnittke (though my interest in him kinda died out over the years)
Denisov
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: kyjo on November 06, 2017, 10:44:19 AM
Rachmaninoff
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Tchaikovsky
Scriabin
Rimsky-Korsakov
Borodin
Glazunov
Miaskovsky
Weinberg (if he's considered Polish, then Kalinnikov instead)
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on November 06, 2017, 06:43:31 PM
Stravinsky
Kourliandski
Dorokhov
Khubeev
Roslavets
Firsova
Wyschnegradsky
Ustvolskaya
Denisov
Gubaidulina
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on November 06, 2017, 06:44:47 PM
Scriabin
Stravinsky (duh  ::) )
Obukhov
Korndorf
Avraamov
Roslavets
Schnittke (though my interest in him kinda died out over the years)
Denisov

Only eight this time? You have two more. :p
Avraamov is a good choice but didn't make it into my top ten (and neither did Smirnov, oh well)
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: You did it on November 06, 2017, 06:58:18 PM
Only eight this time? You have two more. :p
Avraamov is a good choice but didn't make it into my top ten (and neither did Smirnov, oh well)

Anyone writing for sirens and cannons and the lot gets my instant respect  :D

The recreations (I haven't seen the score, so I can't judge it's accuracy) of the Siren Symphony is alone extraordinary!
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: You did it on November 06, 2017, 07:10:46 PM
I forgot Matyushin too
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vandermolen on November 07, 2017, 01:25:19 PM
New List:

Miaskovsky
Gliere
Roslavets
Shostakovich
Liadov
Salmanov
Rachmaninov
Glazunov
Ippolitov-Ivanov
Shebalin
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: schnittkease on November 07, 2017, 04:49:45 PM
Borodin
Gubaidulina
Myaskovsky
Prokofiev
Roslavets
Schnittke
Shostakovich
Stravinsky
Ustvolskaya
Weinberg
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vandermolen on November 08, 2017, 03:28:33 AM
Borodin
Gubaidulina
Myaskovsky
Prokofiev
Roslavets
Schnittke
Shostakovich
Stravinsky
Ustvolskaya
Weinberg
I should have included Weinberg - great composer.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: North Star on November 08, 2017, 08:23:48 AM
Needed to update this since I've discovered Medtner and  Weinberg...


Stravinsky
Rachmaninov
Prokofiev
Shostakovich
Schnittke
Medtner
Weinberg
Scriabin
Mussorgsky
Tchaikovsky
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on November 08, 2017, 08:37:07 AM
Weinberg is indeed a great composer, but I am not sure if he would want to be considered a Russian composer. 

As a Polish Jew, he was not considered Russian by Russians and was the victim of anti-Semitism while living there (not by Shostakovich, who was his friend and advocate/supporter).  A friend of mine said that he had to come to the US to be called Russian; there he was Jew.

But I guess for the purposes of this thread, it is not objectionable for Weinberg to be a Russian composer.

Sometimes the whole ‘what is this composer’s nationality’ game gets a bit tiring. I’ve suggested that Honegger was a French composer, but he’s recognized as a Swiss composer since his parents were, but he lived in France most of his life, so I’ve given up battling with other people over this.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vandermolen on November 11, 2017, 02:16:59 AM
Weinberg is indeed a great composer, but I am not sure if he would want to be considered a Russian composer. 

As a Polish Jew, he was not considered Russian by Russians and was the victim of anti-Semitism while living there (not by Shostakovich, who was his friend and advocate/supporter).  A friend of mine said that he had to come to the US to be called Russian; there he was Jew.

But I guess for the purposes of this thread, it is not objectionable for Weinberg to be a Russian composer.

Shostakovich was indeed no anti-Semite and faced some criticism from the soviet authorities over the Jewish references in 'Babi-Yar' (Symphony 13). Prokofiev, of course, wrote an Overture on Hebrew Themes. Weinberg spoke very highly of Miaskovsky. Glazunov refused to tell the tsarist authorities how many Jewish students there were at the conservatory where he was Director stating 'we don't count them.'

All this rather pleases me.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: André on November 11, 2017, 10:22:55 AM
Sometimes the whole ‘what is this composer’s nationality’ game gets a bit tiring. I’ve suggested that Honegger was a French composer, but he’s recognized as a Swiss composer since his parents were, but he lived in France most of his life, so I’ve given up battling with other people over this.

Tiring and vexing, certainly. But hard to escape. Many love nothing more than pinning labels or making neat little boxes of things and people. It’s human nature. Taxonomy is the basis of many scientific disciplines. With real people though the exercise has its limits. Some do not identify with a culture, land, religion, national or even family history, etc. Some claim to be « citizens of the world » and resist such attempts .

Was Varèse a Frenchman or an American ? Was von Klenau Danish or German ? Was Tansman Polish or French ? The case of Delius or Weinberg are particularly interesting, with at least three national influences intersecting. Is a composer’s national identity to be defined by where he was born, or where he settled and felt at home ? As for european jewish composers, their jewish heritage is as much a component of their very being than any other ‘national’ characteristic.

This is clearly different from others whose nationality was paramount to their very being (« Claude Debussy, french composer » as he insisted on being referred to). The subject is interesting because it covers many layers of influence that sometimes conflict: history, politics, language, cultural heritage etc.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Symphonic Addict on June 12, 2020, 03:27:31 PM
Right now:

Alexander Glazunov
Reinhold Glière
Dmitry Kabalevsky
Nikolai Myaskovsky
Sergei Prokofiev
Sergei Rachmaninov
Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov
Alfred Schnittke
Dmitry Shostakovich
Piotr Ilich Tchaikovsky

Honorable mention to: Weinberg, Borodin, Mili Balakirev, Boris Tchaikovsky, and Sergei Taneyev ( :o yes, it was too hard to decide myself :-\ ) !
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on June 12, 2020, 04:20:55 PM
I think I’ll give this a shot:

Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Weinberg

Rachmaninov
Glazunov
Borodin
Schnittke
Rimsky-Korsakov
Myaskovsky
Lyadov

Honorable mentions: Popov, B. Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Scriabin, Kalinnikov, Balakirev and Shchedrin
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vandermolen on June 12, 2020, 07:08:08 PM
I need to hear more Schnittke

Current thoughts:

Miaskovsky
Shostakovich
Glazunov
Gliere
Eshpai
Shebalin
Popov
Weinberg (if he counts)
Lyatoshinsky (I guess he counts as a Soviet composer)
Rimsky-Korsakov

If Lyatoshinsky doesnt count I'd chose Lyadov or Lyapunov or Kabalevsky
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: kyjo on June 12, 2020, 07:40:06 PM
In some sort of order of preference:

Rachmaninoff
Prokofiev
(My undisputed top two)

Kabalevsky
Taneyev
Glazunov
Shostakovich
Borodin
Scriabin
Medtner
Tchaikovsky (P.I.)

With, of course, many runner-ups! Had Kalinnikov written more, he would’ve certainly made it onto my list. Schnittke is certainly a “rising star” for me and I’ve really enjoyed getting to know some of his works recently. Overall, he’s a more approachable composer than I expected (though some of his works definitely aren’t “easy“!).

Much to Jeffrey’s dismay, and certainly with due respect to his striking new avatar, I must admit that I have mixed feelings about Miaskovsky. :-[ A lot of his music is rather too subdued and somber for my taste - I keep longing for more color and outward emotion in his music. I think part of it has to do with his rather thick and heavy-handed (IMHO, of course) orchestration. That said, there are certain movements/sections within his works that I really enjoy (e.g. the finale of Symphony 15, slow movement of 24, the outer sections of the Cello Concerto, and most of the 22nd Symphony, 13th string quartet, and 2nd cello sonata). Also, I think a lot of his works are still waiting to receive ideal recordings. Svetlanov’s recordings are generally good, but I feel like a more variegated (mood- and color-wise) and detail-oriented approach with a really first-rate modern orchestra would do wonders with some of the symphonies.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Florestan on June 13, 2020, 01:03:20 AM
Undisputed top two:

Tchaikovsky
Rachmaninoff


The rest, in no particular order:

Arensky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Medtner
Bortkiewicz
Lyapunov
Lyadov
Scriabin
Balakirev




Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Jo498 on June 13, 2020, 01:14:42 AM
Stravinsky
Tchaikovsky
Prokofiev
Shostakovich

Mussorgsky
Borodin
Rimsky-Korsakov
Medtner
Rachmaninov
Glazunov
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: dhibbard on June 13, 2020, 08:15:52 AM
I would start with the Mighty Five  and go from there....and include Glinka
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Christo on June 13, 2020, 08:33:53 AM
Tchaikovsky
Stravinsky
Prokofiev
Shostakovich
Mussorgsky
Rimsky-Korsakov
Borodin
Rachmaninov
Myaskovsky
Eshpai (ethnically a Mari)
Glière
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vers la flamme on June 13, 2020, 04:03:22 PM
Hmm, let's see... in very rough, mostly interchangeable preferential order:

Rachmaninov
Shostakovich
Scriabin
Stravinsky
Prokofiev
Schnittke
Myaskovsky
Tchaikovsky
Mussorgsky
Medtner

There's quite a few major Russian composers to whom I've scarcely given much of a chance, including most of the famous Mighty Handful guys, etc., but those I named are solid favorites. There's definitely a chance that I may be forgetting people, too.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Symphonic Addict on June 15, 2020, 11:05:04 AM
In some sort of order of preference:

Rachmaninoff
Prokofiev
(My undisputed top two)

Kabalevsky
Taneyev
Glazunov
Shostakovich
Borodin
Scriabin
Medtner
Tchaikovsky (P.I.)

With, of course, many runner-ups! Had Kalinnikov written more, he would’ve certainly made it onto my list. Schnittke is certainly a “rising star” for me and I’ve really enjoyed getting to know some of his works recently. Overall, he’s a more approachable composer than I expected (though some of his works definitely aren’t “easy“!).

Much to Jeffrey’s dismay, and certainly with due respect to his striking new avatar, I must admit that I have mixed feelings about Miaskovsky. :-[ A lot of his music is rather too subdued and somber for my taste - I keep longing for more color and outward emotion in his music. I think part of it has to do with his rather thick and heavy-handed (IMHO, of course) orchestration. That said, there are certain movements/sections within his works that I really enjoy (e.g. the finale of Symphony 15, slow movement of 24, the outer sections of the Cello Concerto, and most of the 22nd Symphony, 13th string quartet, and 2nd cello sonata). Also, I think a lot of his works are still waiting to receive ideal recordings. Svetlanov’s recordings are generally good, but I feel like a more variegated (mood- and color-wise) and detail-oriented approach with a really first-rate modern orchestra would do wonders with some of the symphonies.

I agree about having better performances/recordings of some Myaskovsky's symphonies. Some of them with Svetlanov are not that convincing, e.g. No. 4, No. 5, No. 10.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on June 16, 2020, 08:28:26 AM
I think I’ll give this a shot:

Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Weinberg

Rachmaninov
Glazunov
Borodin
Schnittke
Rimsky-Korsakov
Myaskovsky
Lyadov

Honorable mentions: Popov, B. Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Scriabin, Kalinnikov, Balakirev and Shchedrin

Okay, I’m going to have to replace Lyadov with Shchedrin. I’ve really fallen under this composer’s spell as of late.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ritter on June 16, 2020, 08:58:55 AM
Oh, poor old Igor Fyodorovich, left out in the cold just like that.... ::)
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on June 16, 2020, 09:08:06 AM
Oh, poor old Igor Fyodorovich, left out in the cold just like that.... ::)

Oh well. :) I love many of Stravinsky’s works, but his aesthetic is one that I’m not hugely attracted to. I never have been a big Stravinskian.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Total Rafa on June 16, 2020, 11:52:05 PM
Tchaikovsky
Rachmaninov
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Mussorgsky
Schnittke
Glière

Haven't heard enough of other composers' music to add to the 7 above. That would include Stravinsky and Scriabin who for some reason, and compared with many other 20th C. composers, I've not yet been very curious to dive deep into their catalogue. I think some of the neoclassical Stravinsky I've heard doesn't seem on the level of e.g. Martinů and Poulenc, who IMO were masters of that aesthetic. But more listening is required.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vers la flamme on June 24, 2020, 12:48:14 PM
Oh well. :) I love many of Stravinsky’s works, but his aesthetic is one that I’m not hugely attracted to. I never have been a big Stravinskian.

Never?! You put him in your top 5 a couple of months ago :D ...:

Time for an update:

’Top 3’ - Debussy, Ravel, and Bartók

The other 7 (in no particular order) -

First row: Ives, Stravinsky, Enescu
Second row: Fauré, Schoenberg, Szymanowski
Third row: Britten

Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on June 24, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
Never?! You put him in your top 5 a couple of months ago :D ...:

True, but everyone here knows I go through phases where I like/dislike Stravinsky, but even, in the beginning, I have to say I haven’t been particularly drawn to him in general. I do love a good bit of his music, though. I certainly won’t deny that. ;)
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: kyjo on June 24, 2020, 04:12:47 PM
True, but everyone here knows I go through phases where I like/dislike Stravinsky, but even, in the beginning, I have to say I haven’t been particularly drawn to him in general. I do love a good bit of his music, though. I certainly won’t deny that. ;)

I’m waiting for a change to a Stravinsky avatar within the next couple hours. ;)
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on June 24, 2020, 04:27:52 PM
I’m waiting for a change to a Stravinsky avatar within the next couple hours. ;)

 :P
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Florestan on June 24, 2020, 11:00:35 PM
True, but everyone here knows I go through phases where I like/dislike Stravinsky a lot of composers

Fixed.  :D
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: springrite on June 24, 2020, 11:13:09 PM
In no particular order:

Prokofiev
Stravinsky
Rachmaninov
Veinberg
Schnittke
Dargomyzhsky
Scriabin
Rubenstein
Tanayev
Gubaidulina

Of course I left off one of my favorite the first time around:

Medtner
Prokofiev
Stravinsky
Rachmaninov
Veinberg
Schnittke
Scriabin
Gubaidulina
Shostakovich
Dargomyzhsky
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on June 25, 2020, 05:15:08 AM
Fixed.  :D

 :P
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: DaPianist on September 19, 2021, 08:43:58 PM
Ten? Maybe five for me:
1. GLINKA (undisputed number 1 for me now)
The rest in no particular order:
Tchaikovsky
Shostakovich
Rachmaninoff
Anyone from The Five
What can I say? I just can't decide--
 :D
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: 71 dB on September 20, 2021, 03:31:04 AM
Generally speaking there aren't Russian composer I know of that I strongly dislike, althou I have developped a really strange semi-allergy for the music of Rachmaninov (too much melancholy?). For me Russian composers in general:

- are emotional and easy to get into
- have some very enjoyable works, but are inconsistent.
- my enthusiasm to their music is very on/off (probably the emotionality does this?)

My two clear favorites among Russian composers are consistently great and intellectual: Sergey Ivanovich Taneyev and Mieczyslaw Weinberg.  0:)

Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: relm1 on September 20, 2021, 04:34:19 AM
1. Prokofiev (do Ukrainian's count?)
2. Scriabin
3. Shostakovich
4. Rachmaninoff
5. Mussorgsky
6. Tishchenko
7. Eshpai
8. Mosolov
9. Tchaikovsky
10. Rimsky-Korsakov

Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: kyjo on September 20, 2021, 06:35:34 AM
In some sort of order:

Rachmaninoff
Prokofiev
Taneyev
Kabalevsky
Medtner
Juon*
Tchaikovsky (P.)
Rimsky-Korsakov
Borodin
Glière

*If Juon doesn’t count (he was Russian-born but spent much of his life elsewhere), I’ll replace him with Arensky.


This was a difficult one for me. I would’ve liked to include Weinberg since he composed a few works that are very dear to me, however a significant portion of his output leaves me rather cold. My omission of Shostakovich will doubtlessly raise eyebrows, and I fully recognize his greatness as a composer, however I’m rarely in the mood to listen to his music these days (aside from a few works). Glazunov is a composer who I’m constantly “flip-flopping” my opinion of (kinda like John with Delius ;)) - I would’ve doubtlessly included him a few months ago. I very much like what I’ve heard of Schnittke’s and A. Tcherepnin’s music but I feel like I’m not familiar with enough of their outputs to merit their inclusion here. I debated including Borodin simply because he composed so little music (same goes for Kalinnikov, who I would’ve loved to include), but I decided in favor of him since what he did write is so treasurable to me.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Symphonic Addict on September 20, 2021, 04:42:04 PM
In some sort of order:

1. Shostakovich
2. Prokofiev

Tchaikovsky
Rachmaninov
Glazunov
Taneyev
Rimsky-Korsakov
Kabalevsky
Glière (or Myaskovsky)
Stravinsky

Honorable mentions: B. Tchaikovsky and Weinberg.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: DavidW on September 21, 2021, 02:53:14 AM
I guess I'll try, I haven't been one for these list threads of late.

DSCH, Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev, Rach, Stravinsky

Those are my top tier.  I like other Russian composers for sure, but I wouldn't label them as favorite like those five.  I don't know if even Prokofiev counts since he is actually Ukrainian.
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: ritter on September 21, 2021, 04:06:14 AM
Well, in my case, there's Stravinsky, and then...Stravinsky, and...again, Stravinsky. Would also name Mussorgsky, Scriabin, and Prokofiev.

Ah, did I mention Stravinsky?  ;D
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 21, 2021, 04:59:40 AM
Favorite Russian composers:

Tchaikovsky
Rachmaninoff
Shostakovich
Stravinsky
Prokofiev (now Ukraine)?
Mussorgsky
Borodin
Rimsky-Korsakov
?
?

PD
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: vandermolen on September 21, 2021, 06:00:44 AM
Today's list:

Miaskovsky
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Weinberg (unless he counts as Polish) otherwise Popov
Glazunov
Rimsky-Korsakov
Rachmaninov
Kabalevsky
Gliere
Eshpai
Title: Re: Your Top 10 Favorite Russian Composers
Post by: Mirror Image on September 27, 2021, 05:29:53 AM
Today's list (for now):

Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Weinberg
Tchaikovsky
Stravinsky
Rachmaninov
Glazunov
Schnittke
Gubaidulina
Shchedrin