Recordings for lute and related instruments

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Mandryka



Having rather enjoyed Anthony Bailes's first recording of Mezangeau on Reflexe yesterday, I thought I'd take the plunge into this. I'm clearly in the mood for French baroque music, so carpe diem, I say. Richter is of course very able to make sense of the music - more spirit and dance than Bailes, but I'm OK with that and it's probably justifiable  - I just am not so keen on the sound, too close and resonant. That being said, she's great at timbre, nuance of timbre, and that comes across in the recording.
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Mandryka

#641
Quote from: Mandryka on October 25, 2020, 08:25:17 PM


An attractive performance by Walter Gerwig of a suite attributed to Johann Jakob Hoffer, it makes me hungry to hear more. But who is he? I can't find anything out about him, and this appears to be the only recording of anything. There is this



But this appears to be music by a different Hoffer - Wolfgang Adam.

Walter Gerwig was a German early music pioneer, like Wenzinger and Walcha. He recorded a good deal of music and much of it was transferred to CD, long unavailable. However it is all now streaming - and IMO well worth seeking out . Lots of rarities in it, by the way, not just Johann Jakob Hoffer.

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Mandryka

#642
Quote from: milk on August 12, 2022, 04:48:08 AM

This is something I came across.

Can't get into that, a bit to forcefully projected and a bit to strongly pulsed for me I think - but I may not be doing him justice, I only listened to a handful of tracks.

Started to listen to Jacob Heringman play Hans Neusidler though, and enjoying that more I think.
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milk

Quote from: Mandryka on August 19, 2022, 12:07:45 AM
Can't get into that, a bit to forcefully projected and a bit to strongly pulsed for me I think - but I may not be doing him justice, I only listened to a handful of tracks.

Started to listen to Jacob Heringman play Hans Neusidler though, and enjoying that more I think.
Actually so have I. The Heringman recordings sounds better to start with. It gets better from there. Are there other alternatives? That's the only one I found.

Mandryka

Quote from: milk on August 19, 2022, 02:38:35 AM
Actually so have I. The Heringman recordings sounds better to start with.

There certainly is, you can have it served up iki style

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8428583--narvaez-vs-neusidler


Not to mention Walter Gerwig and Bart Roose.
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Mandryka



When Rübsam first released his lute harpsichord recordings, we all said here that one inspiration must be style brisé. Rübsam himself denied it. But honestly, Hopkinson Smith in this early Denis Gaultier recording seems to me to anticipate « non chordal » counterpoint See what you think, I could be wrong.

People who like dance music won't enjoy this one, but me - I think it's really successful. No better Denis Gaultier on record!
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Mandryka

Quote from: Mandryka on February 04, 2022, 12:54:56 AM




https://musicamemo.bandcamp.com/album/tarot-de-paris

Came out last year but I missed it, it's very good!

Back to this this afternoon. It's quite forceful playing, ostentatious and extrovert, fun though - well done.
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Mandryka

#647
Quote from: Mandryka on August 11, 2022, 01:53:15 PM


Rosemary Hodgson  is the real deal, she can make poetry, this is a fabulous recital disc, once you start to listen you can't stop, no reservations whatsoever.

And now a new release, iki in spades, possibly iki ad absurdum.


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Mandryka

#648
Quote from: Mandryka on March 25, 2022, 10:16:50 AM

An attractive new compilation CD. Valet, Bachelet, the inevitable Dowland and the even more inevitable Anon. Sort of Renaiso-baroquish if you know what I mean. Well recorded and eloquent playing, well worth a listen.

I can't find much interesting about Mikko Ikäheimo on the web.  I don't know what Ikkaheimo's instrument is. But I do know who Per Brahe was


This is proving to be very rewarding to revisit. It's proving to be a high point of 2022,
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Mandryka

#649
Quote from: Mandryka on January 10, 2023, 11:41:44 AM

Sounds lovely

A Italianate baroque interpretation of Renaissance music - with incisive phrasing, forceful rhythms, in your face virtuosity, voices staggered to complexify things and reduce lyricism. An antidote to the sweetness and limpidity and fluidity Christopher Wilson, and maybe easier to listen to. Well recorded and I think, not unenjoyable.


 
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milk

Quote from: Mandryka on January 14, 2023, 12:48:01 AMA Italianate baroque interpretation of Renaissance music - with incisive phrasing, forceful rhythms, in your face virtuosity, voices staggered to complexify things and reduce lyricism. An antidote to the sweetness and limpidity and fluidity Christopher Wilson, and maybe easier to listen to. Well recorded and I think, not unenjoyable.


 
I'm fond of this recording.

Mandryka

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Dry Brett Kavanaugh

#652
If anybody can explain what's going on in the album, I would appreciate it. I guess her instrument, bass viol, is lower than Gamba?


Mandryka

#653
https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/87/000155078.pdf

Really interesting paper here from the booklet Hopkinson Smith's new release of music by Spinacino. The problem is that the first edition is, he says, a mess - full of what he takes to be typos

There are numerous misprints, non-sequiturs in the texts, missing measures, inexplicable turns of phrase, and moments of bizarre counterpoint.

So Smith makes his decision

I am of the opinion that one must either leave the originals unplayed or else reweave the loose strands into a tapestry that is convincing as a work of art.

The recording needs to be heard, and needs to be heard when you're in the mood to listen to counterpoint. This is music which isn't going to grab your imagination unless you're ready to submit and focus. 

And it needs to be head on a very good system, obvs.

Oh, there's also quite a bit of music by Dalza on the CD, who's basically a fun and easy to access composer - Smith uses a phrase to describe him which is spot on IMO - Dalza is a café and tavern lutenist. It's the sort of music which would go down well in pubs having a "folk night" today in London.



And then there's the cover, I haven't worked out if there's a reason why he's holding it like that.
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#654
Hard to know of Smith is suggesting that Massimo Marchese's Sinacino is unconvincing - it isn't.





Not Paolo Cerici's either.

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Mandryka

#656
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on February 16, 2023, 01:19:49 PMEnjoying the album.



I haven't heard the Bach, but everything I have heard by him has been beautiful. Introspective, and always a lovely instrument, expressive, delicate. I've only heard French and Italian music I think - Gaultier etc and Kapsberger and Picinini.
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Mookalafalas

An inspired transciption. On flutes it's charming, but quickly becomes fatiguing. On mandolins, you wish it was longer. (of course, no doubt, it helps to be a Telemann fan, which I decidedly am)

It's all good...

Brahmsian

#658
I didn't see a dedicated "mandolin" thread, through multiple searches.  The closest thing is this one?

Anyhow, I just sampled a beautiful, wonderful collections of duos for guitar and mandolin.  Not every piece is a duo.  Some are solo guitar or solo mandolin.

I like the combination, and likely making it into my bulging shopping cart.  ;D  Here is the recording:






Que

Quote from: OrchestralNut on March 28, 2023, 04:57:20 AMI didn't see a dedicated "mandolin" thread, through multiple searches.  The closest thing is this one?

Definitely a "related instrument"!  :D