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The Music Room => Great Recordings and Reviews => Topic started by: Mandryka on September 15, 2022, 07:03:30 AM

Title: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Mandryka on September 15, 2022, 07:03:30 AM
This period seems to me transitional, maybe I've been over generous in giving it 100 years - what I have in mind is  the transition from Renaissance style to Baroque.

Anyway, here's a thread to post ideas about it. Maybe it'll come to nothing, maybe it'll be a valuable catalogue of a really creative time in European music history.
Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Mandryka on September 15, 2022, 07:05:33 AM
And I'll kick it off with everyone's favourite Scottish mercenary composer callant, Tobias Hume


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What a voice Suzie Le Blanc has! Magnificent. And I think the two viol players are much much better here than on their Naxos Hume integral.

Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: San Antone on September 15, 2022, 07:08:00 AM
Are the dates meant to cover birthdates for composers or composition dates of works?
Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Mandryka on September 15, 2022, 07:17:33 AM
Music composed in this 100 year period I think. Biber, Reincken, Blow - they're streng verboten.
Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Todd on September 15, 2022, 08:26:02 AM
Monteverdi was OK.

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Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Mandryka on September 15, 2022, 09:52:27 AM
Yes thinking about what happens in Monteverdi Book V is what prompted this thread in fact. It seems to start off Renaissance style and end thoroughly baroque. Written in the last decade of the 16th century I think.


Trabaci is another good one to think about - I'd argue that his Bk 1 is Renaissance style and his Bk 2 is baroque.
Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Todd on September 15, 2022, 10:19:43 AM
Another easy pick from the period: Gesualdo.

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Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Todd on September 15, 2022, 10:28:27 AM
Another really easy one, and one of the best piano recordings of the century, even if it is anachronistic:

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Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on September 15, 2022, 01:42:44 PM
This period is dear to me, because it marks the emergence of both solo keyboard music and ensemble instrumental music as distinct genres.
Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Mandryka on September 16, 2022, 12:05:16 AM
One mover and shaker in instrumental music  from this period was Antonio Valente - he was a publisher of anthologies certainly, and maybe a composer in his own right too. Paola Erdas has been keen to explore the music he championed on record, this was released last year

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An earlier recording explored music coming out of the court of Gesualdo - there's some overlap, different instruments, the musician 10 years younger - that makes it all the more interesting I think

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Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Florestan on September 16, 2022, 01:15:14 AM
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Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Todd on September 16, 2022, 06:07:00 AM
Reviewing a list of other composers who cranked out works in the defined period, it does indeed end up a disproportionate favorite of mine.  Another great composer who wrote quite a bit in the defined period was Heinrich Schütz.  The Rademann set is a handy way to hear all of it.  Some highlights:

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Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: The new erato on September 16, 2022, 06:23:42 AM
Definiyely agree on Schutz - sorry about the lack of umlauts.
Title: Re: The 1550 to 1650 appreciation society.
Post by: Todd on September 24, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
A composer that fits perfectly in the designated time period is Tomás Luis de Victoria.  In addition to a few other discs, this handy-dandy set has served me well for over a decade now:

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