My list, in chronological order:
Ciconia
Cabezón
Frescobaldi
Schütz
Weckmann
Corelli
Domenico Scarlatti
Locatelli
Mozart
Beethoven
Chopin
Verdi
Brahms
Debussy
Sibelius
Rachmaninoff
Ravel
Bartok
Your turn.
Varèse - they all fit on 2 CDs.
Barraqué, @ 3 CDs.
Berg
Brahms
Rachmaninoff
Ravel
Schoenberg
Stravinsky
Varèse
Webern
Beethoven
Stravinsky
Schütz
Webern
Decaux (2 complete sets)
Quote from: Todd on March 28, 2021, 10:14:15 AM
Decaux (2 complete sets)
I suspect that's 2 discs, right?
Quote from: Florestan on March 28, 2021, 10:30:18 AM
I suspect that's 2 discs, right?
One published work. Two different pianists as part of mixed recitals on two different discs.
Quote from: Todd on March 28, 2021, 10:33:49 AM
One published work.
I didn't know that, really. It's a
Clair de lune, I think? Heard about it, never heard it.
Quote from: Florestan on March 28, 2021, 10:35:51 AMIt's a Clair de lune, I think? Heard about it, never heard it.
Yes. It's a really rather excellent work. I think there are seven commercial recordings out there. More pianists really ought to take it up.
Quote from: T. D. on March 28, 2021, 09:45:49 AM
Barraqué, @ 3 CDs.
->yet there's also https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/barraque-espaces-imaginaires-oeuvres-pour-piano/hnum/8851520 :)
The DG Boulez box isn't complete either.
- Monteverdi (?)/combined labels
- Frescobaldi/brilliant
- Bach/hänssler
- Mozart/brilliant
- Beethoven/brilliant
- Brahms (?)/combined labels
- Chopin/combined labels
- Mussorgsky (?)/combined labels
- Decaux (?, well, the only major known one, Clairs de Lune, but not the others https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel_Decaux)
- Bruckner (except all revised symphony versions and maybe a few choral movements)/combined labels
- Mahler/combined labels
- Scriabin/decca
- Faure (?)/combined labels
- Webern/dg
- Debussy (?)/combined labels
- Satie/combined labels
- Ravel/decca
- Rachmaninoff/combined labels
- Varese/decca
- Bartok (?)/combined labels (except a few of the choral works and songs)
- Poulenc/emi
- Valen (?)/combined labels
- Stravinsky, except
Chant Funebre- Barraque, except mentioned early piano works/cpo
- Pettersson/combined labels
- Dutilleux
- Keuris/dutch box
and others,
plus many ~almost complete.
Brahms
Webern
Ravel
Rachmaninoff
Bartók
Varèse
Mahler
Quote from: MusicTurner on March 28, 2021, 10:43:07 AM
->yet there's also https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/barraque-espaces-imaginaires-oeuvres-pour-piano/hnum/8851520 :)
...
Ouch. My bad, now I feel compelled to seek out that recording. Thanks.
Quote from: MusicTurner on March 28, 2021, 10:43:07 AM
plus many ~almost complete.
That's a different topic. :D
And if you put it in terms of "combined labels", I think I also have the complete
Faure and
Liszt, possibly
Tchaikovsky too.
For Harry, the list will be shorter to simply list the composers he does not have the complete works of. :D
Quote from: OrchestralNut on March 28, 2021, 10:52:22 AM
For Harry, the list will be shorter to simply list the composers he does not have the complete works of. :D
Shorter, as in a hundred pages. :D
Quote from: Florestan on March 28, 2021, 10:51:07 AM
That's a different topic. :D
And if you put it in terms of "combined labels", I think I also have the complete Faure and Liszt, possibly Tchaikovsky too.
The point is that 'complete' is a bit relative, by closer inspection!
Quote from: MusicTurner on March 28, 2021, 10:54:58 AM
The point is that 'complete' is a bit relative, by closer inspection!
Of course it is! I was thinking more in terms of boxsets labelled as such.
FWIW, of my Top Five composers, I have the "complete" works of
Mozart, Chopin and
Rachmaninoff plus the "almost" complete works of
Schubert and
Tchaikovsky.
And now that I think of it, I also have the complete Naxos Edition(s) of
Johann Strauss, Sr.,
Johann Strauss, Jr. and
Josef Strauss. 8)
I am too lazy to make a list, but a few baroque composers with very little surviving works (e.g. Nikolaus Bruhns) Also, I have the Complete Mozart box. Elgar has some obscure small works I don't have.
Quote from: 71 dB on March 28, 2021, 11:40:08 AM
I have the Complete Mozart box.
Philips or
Brilliant Classics?
Either way, kudos! :-*
Let's say I have all the works by these composers that AFAIK have been commercially released on CD (which in most cases represents the vast majority of their output):
Beethoven—complete set
Berlioz—complete set
Wagner—combined labels
Antonio Carlos Gomes—combined labels
Fauré—combined labels
Mahler—combined labels
Debussy—complete set
Schoenberg—combined labels (might have a couple of works missing)
Scriabin—complete set
Ravel—complete set
Manuel de Falla—combined labels
Reynaldo Hahn—combined labels
Stravinsky—complete set(s), plus complements
Edgar Verèse—combined labels
Webern—complete set(s)
Alban Berg—combined labels
Dallapiccola—combined labels
Ernesto Halffter—combined labels
Messiaen—complete set
Ginastera—combined labels
Bruno Maderna—combined labels
Boulez—complete set, plus complements
Barraqué—complete set, plus the early piano pieces
Quote from: ritter on March 28, 2021, 11:42:49 AM
Let's say I have all the works by these composers that AFAIK have been commercially released on CD (which in most cases represents the vast majority of their output):
Beethoven—complete set
Berlioz—complete set
Wagner—combined labels
Antonio Carlos Gomes—combined labels
Fauré—combined labels
Mahler—combined labels
Debussy—complete set
Schoenberg—combined labels (might have a couple of works missing)
Scriabin—complete set
Ravel—complete set
Manuel de Falla—combined sets
Reynaldo Hahn—combined labels
Stravinsky—complete set(s), plus complements
Webern—complete set(s)
Dallapiccola—combined labels
Ernesto Halffter—combined sets
Messiaen—complete set
Ginastera—combined labels
Bruno Maderna—combined labels
Boulez—complete set, plus complements
Barraqué—complete set, plus the early piano pieces
That's interesting, some of those I didn't even know that you could have complete sets of!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 28, 2021, 10:04:52 AM
Berg
Brahms
Rachmaninoff
Ravel
Schoenberg
Stravinsky
Varèse
Webern
You also have Bach on a stick, don't you?
Quote from: Florestan on March 28, 2021, 11:47:03 AM
Who?
Antônio Carlos Gomes (1836-1896), the "Brazilian
Verdi". I have all his operas that have been recorded (7 of the 8 he composed), plus some religious music and songs. Most on obscure Brazilian labels (all long OOP).
His greatest hit was
Il Guarany (recorded even by Sony with
Plácido Domingo in the title rôle). My favourite is his last work,
Lo Schiavo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antônio_Carlos_Gomes
Quote from: ritter on March 28, 2021, 11:54:03 AM
Antônio Carlos Gomes (1836-1896), the "Brazilian Verdi". I have all his operas that have been recorded (7 of the 8 he composed), plus some religious music and songs. Most on obscure Brazilian labels (all long OOP).
His greatest hit was Il Guarany (recorded even by Sony with Plácido Domingo in the title rôle). My favourite is his last work, Lo Schiavo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antônio_Carlos_Gomes
Impressive collection!
Quote from: ritter on March 28, 2021, 11:54:03 AM
Antônio Carlos Gomes (1836-1896), the "Brazilian Verdi". I have all his operas that have been recorded (7 of the 8 he composed), plus some religious music and songs. Most on obscure Brazilian labels (all long OOP).
His greatest hit was Il Guarany (recorded even by Sony with Plácido Domingo in the title rôle). My favourite is his last work, Lo Schiavo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antônio_Carlos_Gomes
Very interesting,
Rafael, thanks.
Yet, I'm baffled: you don't have the complete operas of Verdi, yet you have all operas of "the Brazilian Verdi". :o
Quote from: MusicTurner on March 28, 2021, 11:48:41 AM
That's interesting, some of those I didn't even know that you could have complete sets of!
The ones marked "combined labels" are not complete sets, just single issues that add up to the "whole thing" (sorry, in my post I marked
Falla and
Halffter as "combined
sets" rather than "
labels", which may have been misleading—now corrected).
Quote from: ritter on March 28, 2021, 12:01:10 PM
The ones marked "combined labels" are not complete sets, just single issues that add up to the "whole thing" (sorry, in my post I marked Falla and Halffter as "combined sets" rather than "labels", which may have been misleading—now corrected).
Since I knew little, I didn't even think of any distinction!
Quote from: Florestan on March 28, 2021, 11:58:23 AM
Very interesting, Rafael, thanks.
Yet, I'm baffled: you don't have the complete operas of Verdi, yet you have all operas of "the Brazilian Verdi". :o
It's
sooo much cooler to have the exotic Brazilian than the
cafone from Bussetto, don't you think? :D ;D
Just joking: I have all of
Verdi's operas save for seven (
Un Giorno di regno,
Alzira,
I Masnadieri,
Jérusalem,
Il Corsaro,
Stiffelio and
Aroldo).
Quote from: ritter on March 28, 2021, 12:08:14 PM
cafone
In my dictionary,
cafone is illustrated by pictures of
Bruckner and
Wagner.
Oh ciel, che noia! ;D
As officially complete sets
Bach [2x]
Beethoven
Berlioz
Debussy [3x]
Ravel
Mahler [2x]
Stravinsky
Boulez
Frescobaldi
Tallis
Ligeti
Spread out over many different recordings
Wagner
Puccini
Byrd
Faure, possibly
Mozart, possibly
Elgar, possibly
Vaughn Williams, possibly
There are probably some pre 1700 composers who should be listed here, but I'd have to investigate.
All the non-vocal music
Rachmaninov
Chopin
Johann Strauss Jr
All the non-vocal music, some of the songs, about half the operas
Richard Strauss
Britten
Vaughan Williams
Miaskovsky (those available on disc)
Bax
Glazunov
Quote from: vandermolen on March 28, 2021, 12:28:00 PM
Vaughan Williams
Miaskovsky (those available on disc)
Bax
Glazunov
Exactly what I expected of you,
Jeffrey. :D
None.
Even with my favorite composers I don't feel the need to hold onto everything. There are somethings that I rarely play, so I might as well just stream them when I get the urge.
Quote from: DavidW on March 28, 2021, 01:37:15 PM
None.
Even with my favorite composers I don't feel the need to hold onto everything. There are somethings that I rarely play, so I might as well just stream them when I get the urge.
This would be my more thought process now than in the past.
Quote from: OrchestralNut on March 28, 2021, 01:40:51 PM
This would be my more thought process now than in the past.
In the past owning the cd was the only way you could guarantee that you could listen to the work when you wanted to. It made sense.
Inevitably though I will probably end up with all recorded Robert Simpson. Can't stream that. I have all his symphonies but he also wrote a great deal of some pretty good chamber music.
I have two complete Bach sets, but possibly I have recordings of several other composers' complete surviving works - especially of those where only a small number of works has been preserved, but I rarely strive for that kind of completeness, so I do not know for sure.
Quote from: Florestan on March 28, 2021, 11:41:32 AM
Philips or Brilliant Classics?
Either way, kudos! :-*
Brilliant Classics. 100 euros delivered.
Philipp Schoendorff
Decaux
Debussy
Ravel
Scriabin
Rachmaninoff
Mahler
Varèse
Berg
Webern
Boulez
Beethoven
Webern
Britten
I think I have all of the band works of Granger.
Off the top of my head: Debussy, Ravel, Bartók, Stravinsky, Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, Varèse, Chopin, Liszt, Mahler, Bruckner, Janáček, Boulez, Ruggles, Scriabin, Fauré, Enescu, Sibelius, Bernstein, R. Strauss, Ligeti, Boulez, Falla, Poulenc, Boulanger, Lutosławski, Szymanowski, Britten, Walton, Mussorgsky, Rachmaninov, Berlioz, Beethoven, Brahms, Messiaen and Takemitsu (although I might have to double check this as I might be missing his songs).
Quote from: JBS on March 28, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
You also have Bach on a stick, don't you?
Ah, yes, indeed! A reprehensible omission on my part.
Not really a completist, I think I have:
Bach
Webern
Decaux
Mahler
Verdi
Bruckner
Quote from: Florestan on March 28, 2021, 12:30:24 PM
Exactly what I expected of you, Jeffrey. :D
Haha :)
There are probably some others too
Andrei (Havergal Brian, Walton, Holst, Bruckner, Rimsky Korsakov?)
Probably only Mahler and Varese as they have a relatively compact output. Of everybody else I have enough.
Varèse and Webern, both several times over. I was going to say Mahler but I don't have the Lieder und Gesänge or Das klagende Lied.
Quote from: Crudblud on March 29, 2021, 07:47:54 AM
Varèse and Webern, both several times over. I was going to say Mahler but I don't have the Lieder und Gesänge or Das klagende Lied.
You don't own all of Stravinsky's, Schoenberg's or Berg's oeuvre?
Since I've been streaming music my big box purchases has dwindled to almost none. I bought the Stravinsky long brick way back, as well as the Boulez complete Webern, and recently the Boulez complete works. But I never bought any of those complete editions of the big names: Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, etc. Most of the ones I'm interested in are available to stream, e.g. Debussy and Ravel.
Also a Spotify classical music editor has curated complete chronological playlists of many composers.
Mahler
Stravinsky (if that Sony boxset is it)
Vaughan Williams (EMI Edition)
Tallis (Brilliant)
Victoria ? (complete Sacred works, it that it ?)
Wagner (Solti - did Wagner did anything beyond operas? Not that I have really listened to them yet anyway :-[ )
I think that's it.
Berlioz - Warner box
Brahms - Brilliant
Chopin - Hyperion/Ohlsson
Rachmaninov - Brilliant
Ravel - Warner
That is all but I am probably close on Fauré and Dukas.
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 29, 2021, 08:12:28 AM
Wagner (Solti - did Wagner did anything beyond operas? Not that I have really listened to them yet anyway :-[ )
There is at least one very early and very immature symphony, and I think maybe a concert overture with no opera attached. Find the symphony here if you are worried about missing out ( ;D ) https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.573413
Edit: similar story with Richard Strauss, two very very early symphonies, and I believe one of them (the minor key one) has only ever been recorded twice, one on Koch and one on Marco Polo, so collecting the complete R. Strauss would be very challenging.
Quote from: Brian on March 29, 2021, 09:08:07 AM
There is at least one very early and very immature symphony, and I think maybe a concert overture with no opera attached. Find the symphony here if you are worried about missing out ( ;D ) https://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.573413
Saved for streaming ;D
According to Idagio under Wagner's works (maybe I should have gone there before asking the question 0:) ), there are also a few songs, a polka, some polonaises... :o
Wagner also wrote two discs (I think) worth of piano music.
Quote from: Florestan on March 29, 2021, 09:37:57 AM
Wagner also wrote two discs (I think) worth of piano music.
Indeed, plus the
Siegfried-Idyll, a symphony and a half, some songs (other than the
Wesendonck), several concert overtures, the
Kinderkathezismus, and choral stuff (including the strange
Das Liebesmahl der Apostel). Then there's his arrangement of
Gluck's
Iphigénie auf Aulis (like that,
auf Deutsch ;) ), and really off the beaten track, his arrangements for two violins of themes from
Donizetti's
La Favorite.
I think I have it all...what I haven't been able to locate is the aria he wrote to interpolate in
Bellini's
Norma... The quest continues...:( ::) ;D
Maybe I should have bought a boxset that regroups all that instead of the operas 0:)
There's this set for most but not all of his miscellaneous works
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61FfAIIJIzL.jpg)
ETA
It seems that my idea that I had all his music was wrong, as there are some things mentioned I know I don't have.
Varèse (for the reason cited above: only 2 discs) and Mahler. That's it, though other composers come close.
(Caveat: I have heard more works than I own.)
--Bruce
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 29, 2021, 08:12:28 AM
Mahler
Stravinsky (if that Sony boxset is it)
Vaughan Williams (EMI Edition)
Tallis (Brilliant)
Victoria ? (complete Sacred works, it that it ?)
Wagner (Solti - did Wagner did anything beyond operas? Not that I have really listened to them yet anyway :-[ )
I think that's it.
I hope you add the complete Debussy and Ravel to this list soon.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 28, 2021, 10:04:52 AM
Berg
Brahms
Rachmaninoff
Ravel
Schoenberg
Stravinsky
Varèse
Webern
Surprised not to see Debussy on this list, Karl.
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 29, 2021, 09:22:22 AM
Saved for streaming ;D
According to Idagio under Wagner's works (maybe I should have gone there before asking the question 0:) ), there are also a few songs, a polka, some polonaises... :o
A Wagner polka?!?! That could pair ideally with Peter Schickele's "Last Tango in Bayreuth," a tango arrangement of all of his operas into one short work...for four bassoons!
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 29, 2021, 08:12:28 AM
Mahler
Stravinsky (if that Sony boxset is it)
Vaughan Williams (EMI Edition)
Tallis (Brilliant)
Victoria ? (complete Sacred works, it that it ?)
Wagner (Solti - did Wagner did anything beyond operas? Not that I have really listened to them yet anyway :-[ )
I think that's it.
You forgot Varese :D I think you have that.
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 29, 2021, 10:20:39 AM
I hope you add the complete Debussy and Ravel to this list soon.
Those 2 Warner boxes are visually very tempting. I'll decide when I have sampled more.
To think that this discussion could never have taken place in the era of LPs (or for most people anyway).
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 29, 2021, 10:29:55 AM
Those 2 Warner boxes are visually very tempting. I'll decide when I have sampled more.
Don't drag your heels for too much longer. Availability should be kept in mind for these sets.
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 29, 2021, 07:53:40 AM
You don't own all of Stravinsky's, Schoenberg's or Berg's oeuvre?
I have a reasonably comprehensive overview of Stravinsky and Schoenberg, but certainly not complete in either case. Berg I don't have very much of at all, I admire the Violin Concerto and the Chamber Concerto greatly but I've never been especially fond of his music.
Quote from: Crudblud on March 29, 2021, 12:10:08 PM
I have a reasonably comprehensive overview of Stravinsky and Schoenberg, but certainly not complete in either case. Berg I don't have very much of at all, I admire the Violin Concerto and the Chamber Concerto greatly but I've never been especially fond of his music.
Berg was love on first-listen for me. Incredible composer. Just the other night upon revisitation of his
Der Wein, I was blown away.
Quote from: OrchestralNut on March 29, 2021, 10:24:09 AM
You forgot Varese :D I think you have that.
I have streamed it, Ray, never got an urge beyond that ;D
Quote from: Brian on March 29, 2021, 10:23:47 AM
A Wagner polka?!?! That could pair ideally with Peter Schickele's "Last Tango in Bayreuth," a tango arrangement of all of his operas into one short work...for four bassoons!
A polka in G Major apparently !!
Quote from: Florestan on March 28, 2021, 09:38:24 AM
Chopin
I just counted and it turns out I have no less than ten complete or almost complete Chopin boxsets: Ashkenazy, el-Bacha, Francois, Harasziewicz, Magaloff, de Maria, Ohlsson, Rubinstein (1960s), the DG Edition and The Real Chopin Edition. :o
Quote from: flyingdutchman on March 29, 2021, 11:47:06 AM
To think that this discussion could never have taken place in the era of LPs (or for most people anyway).
What an interesting thought, and you are very likely right. If there is one benefit to the digital age, it is the explosion of recorded repertoire, including composers and works that didn't get much attention previously.
--Bruce
Quote from: Brewski on March 30, 2021, 05:33:46 AM
What an interesting thought, and you are very likely right. If there is one benefit to the digital age, it is the explosion of recorded repertoire, including composers and works that didn't get much attention previously.
--Bruce
It could have taken place, and you could own the complete works by some composers, including Mozart (Philips) and Beethoven (DG), Brahms (DG), Bartok (Hungaroton), Prokofiev (Melodiya, if they finished the project), Chopin (Muza), Szymanowski (?; Muza), Eisler (Eterna), Rachmaninoff (various labels), Schumann (various labels) and - just about - Stravinsky (CBS), Schubert (various labels), Bach (various labels), Ruggles' (CBS), Griffes (various labels), Scriabin (various labels), but the number of composers would overall be significantly smaller.
Speaking of that, I forgot that I have Louis Ferdinand of Preussen's complete works - it's a German LP box:
https://www.discogs.com/Louis-Ferdinand-von-Preu%C3%9Fen-Das-Gesamtwerk/release/17806222
Quote from: flyingdutchman on March 29, 2021, 11:47:06 AM
To think that this discussion could never have taken place in the era of LPs (or for most people anyway).
Nor the era of streaming. It is really particular to the era of cds in between the two.
Haydn, except insofar as there are a couple of dances that have never been recorded. Not MY fault, I would have them.
Mozart
Beethoven
Schubert - there again, there are a few3 works that have never been recorded, possibly not even ever played! :o
There are several composers who I have a great pisspot full of their music. Or all their chamber music. This is because that is the way I tend to collect music, I find a composer I like and get every work he composed, if at all possible. :)
8)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on March 30, 2021, 06:48:01 PM
Haydn, except insofar as there are a couple of dances that have never been recorded. Not MY fault, I would have them.
Mozart
Beethoven
Schubert - there again, there are a few3 works that have never been recorded, possibly not even ever played! :o
There are several composers who I have a great pisspot full of their music. Or all their chamber music. This is because that is the way I tend to collect music, I find a composer I like and get every work he composed, if at all possible. :)
8)
What are the
Haydn &
Schubert lacunæ? Are free scores available? Not the same, of course, but one might realize them via MIDI.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 30, 2021, 07:56:57 PM
What are the Haydn & Schubert lacunæ? Are free scores available? Not the same, of course, but one might realize them via MIDI.
I don't know about Haydn, but for Schubert there are sets with complete Lieder, complete piano music both solo and four hands / duet, complete symphonies, complete orchestral music, complete string quartets, complete piano trios, complete works for violin and piano, possibly complete chamber music other than SQs and PTs, complete masses, complete choral works. I'm pretty sure only very few of his operas were recorded, though.
Quote from: Florestan on March 29, 2021, 11:59:55 PM
I just counted and it turns out I have no less than ten complete or almost complete Chopin boxsets: Ashkenazy, el-Bacha, Francois, Harasziewicz, Magaloff, de Maria, Ohlsson, Rubinstein (1960s), the DG Edition and The Real Chopin Edition. :o
The count was wrong, I have eleven actually, as I forgot about the EMI 200th Anniversary Edition. :laugh:
Yet for Chopin, there's also the songs and the chamber music ...
Quote from: MusicTurner on March 31, 2021, 04:25:29 AM
Yet for Chopin, there's also the songs snd the chamber music ...
Included in: Ohlsson, the DG Edition, The Real Chopin Edition and the EMI 200th Anniversary Edition. Also, recorded by Nikita Magaloff and Leyla Gencer so that can be included in the Magaloff set.
I'm still waiting for someone to say Telemann!
Quote from: DavidW on March 31, 2021, 07:20:45 AM
I'm still waiting for someone to say Telemann!
Waiting, with dread?
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 31, 2021, 10:17:57 AM
Waiting, with dread?
The complete Telemann box would be huge, and many of the works would sound the same. ;)
Quote from: Old San Antone on March 31, 2021, 10:28:41 AM
The complete Telemann box would be huge, and many of the works would sound the same. ;)
Probably. A Zelenka box for instance would likely be more varied, and comprise much less.
Quote from: Florestan on March 31, 2021, 04:29:40 AM
Included in: Ohlsson, the DG Edition, The Real Chopin Edition and the EMI 200th Anniversary Edition. Also, recorded by Nikita Magaloff and Leyla Gencer so that can be included in the Magaloff set.
Thanks, some of those I didn't know.
Quote from: Old San Antone on March 31, 2021, 10:28:41 AM
The complete Telemann box would be huge, and many of the works would sound the same. ;)
Verily.
Quote from: Florestan on March 31, 2021, 02:58:35 AM
I don't know about Haydn, but for Schubert there are sets with complete Lieder, complete piano music both solo and four hands / duet, complete symphonies, complete orchestral music, complete string quartets, complete piano trios, complete works for violin and piano, possibly complete chamber music other than SQs and PTs, complete masses, complete choral works. I'm pretty sure only very few of his operas were recorded, though.
Well, certainly no one wants the
Lieder in MIDI.
Quote from: MusicTurner on March 31, 2021, 11:22:38 AM
Probably. A Zelenka box for instance would likely be more varied, and comprise much less.
True, too.
None I think.
For Mahler it depends if we count Die Drei Pintos.
For Scriabin I have all of the opuses, but not early works without opus number.
Some others come fairly close but I know there are things missing (even from what's been recorded).
Quote from: MusicTurner on March 31, 2021, 11:32:01 AM
Thanks, some of those I didn't know.
You're welcome.
It's official now: after a thorough count and check,
Chopin is the composer for whose works I have the most versions.
And now that I think of it, I have the almost complete
Schumann too.
What I find interesting is that there is no complete Vivaldi.
Daniel Smith has recorded all of the Vivaldi bassoon concerti but these are very uneven performances'
To my knowledge there are no good recordings of the following Vivaldi bassoon concertos:
Concerto in C major/RV478
Concerto in E minor/RV484
Concerto in F major/RV489
Concerto in C Major/RV479
Concerto in G major/RV492
Concerto in F major/RV490
The Hungarian bassoonist Tamás Benkócs started to but never completed.
Quote from: arpeggio on April 02, 2021, 03:41:13 PM
What I find interesting is that there is no complete Vivaldi.
Daniel Smith has recorded all of the Vivaldi bassoon concerti but these are very uneven performances'
To my knowledge there are no good recordings of the following Vivaldi bassoon concertos:
Concerto in C major/RV478
Concerto in E minor/RV484
Concerto in F major/RV489
Concerto in C Major/RV479
Concerto in G major/RV492
Concerto in F major/RV490
The Hungarian bassoonist Tamás Benkócs started to but never completed.
Well this thread isn't really about the quality of performances. But is the Naive series of bassoon concertos not complete?
Quote from: Madiel on April 02, 2021, 08:22:46 PM
Well this thread isn't really about the quality of performances. But is the Naive series of bassoon concertos not complete?
To my knowledge it is not.
As far as the performance, I am a bassoon player and I have yet met a bassoon player who likes the Daniel Smith recordings.
If there are any out there, please speak up.
Quote from: arpeggio on April 02, 2021, 11:20:49 PM
To my knowledge it is not.
As far as the performance, I am a bassoon player and I have yet met a bassoon player who likes the Daniel Smith recordings.
If there are any out there, please speak up.
What are the complains regarding Smith? One of those ASV discs are often in Brilliant Classics compilations, as far as I remember.
Quote from: Madiel on April 02, 2021, 08:22:46 PM
Well this thread isn't really about the quality of performances. But is the Naive series of bassoon concertos not complete?
The Naive series includes RV 484 and RV 492, but not the others.
Quote from: JBS on April 03, 2021, 06:50:54 AM
The Naive series includes RV 484 and RV 492, but not the others.
Thanks.
Quote from: MusicTurner on April 02, 2021, 11:27:27 PM
What are the complains regarding Smith? One of those ASV discs are often in Brilliant Classics compilations, as far as I remember.
Daniel Smith is a great jazz bassoonist. I have some of his jazz albums. Check out:
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In order to play jazz he uses a reed that has an edge to it. This is good when he is playing Charlie Parker but it is too harsh for Vivaldi.
Again if one knows of a bassoonist who disagrees with me, speak up.
Quote from: arpeggio on April 03, 2021, 06:43:55 PM
Again if one knows of a bassoonist who disagrees with me, speak up.
No-one is disagreeing with you. I just observed the thread wasn't about the quality of performances.
I am sorry. I apologize for the posts.
Quote from: arpeggio on April 03, 2021, 08:23:10 PM
I am sorry. I apologize for the posts.
I enjoyed the tangent, I learnt something.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 03, 2021, 08:31:26 PM
I enjoyed the tangent, I learnt something.
Thanks. I was not trying to sound that tangent.
I was hoping to find some suggestions and JBS gave me a few.
Quote from: arpeggio on April 03, 2021, 08:23:10 PM
I am sorry. I apologize for the posts.
I don't think you have to.
Quote from: arpeggio on April 03, 2021, 08:23:10 PM
I am sorry. I apologize for the posts.
What!? That was the most interesting part of the thread. It actually had me looking over bassoon concerto recordings of Vivalid, and adding some to my Qobuz library for later. Trying to remember which ones I had heard.
But I did enjoy my mental image of Karl being assigned to review a complete Telemann edition! :laugh:
This is a hard task for me, since plenty of composer I have all there stuff, you know me by now it's renaissance composers, you will see:
Franco-Flemish school of kingdom of burgundy composer
. Dufay, Josquin, Ockeghem, Lassus, Crécquillon, DE Wert, Gombert, Rogier, Manchicourt, Clémens and last but not least Cypriano Di Rore.
Italians Palestrina, Luzzaschi, Gesualdo, Sigismondo DIndia (a god) beyong words for my stander.
I first thought: None!
But thinking a bit and looking on my shelves, it seems that I do have reasonably complete
- Corelli (Brilliant box)
- Chopin (DG box)
- Mahler (I am missing Blumine and the Weber completion but have two recordings of the piano
- Berg
pretty close (I am missing a few pieces, not only totally obscure ones but I am too lazy to check the details and don't really care to close the small gaps) l must be with
- Ockeghem (Gaudeamus box, not sure how complete it is)
- Beethoven (I lack e.g. Der glorreiche Augenblick but I have the two early cantatas and all Irish/Scottish etc. songs)
- Brahms (maybe a few lieder but I must have most of them, not aware of any other major lacunae)
- Bruckner (none of the early piano stuff and also missing a few lesser known choral pieces)
- Webern (not sure)
With JS Bach I still lack a quarter or more of the cantatas; I think I have all or most of the rest. This is the only gap I expect to eventually close. Also Schubert's lieder (I am not going for all of his operas and early church pieces, though). Schumann also must be very small gaps (choral, incidental, lieder, it cannot be much). The same with Stravinsky, I guess.
Quote from: Jo498 on June 05, 2021, 01:56:01 PM
I first thought: None!
But thinking a bit and looking on my shelves, it seems that I do have reasonably complete
- Corelli (Brilliant box)
- Chopin (DG box)
- Mahler (I am missing Blumine and the Weber completion but have two recordings of the piano
- Berg
pretty close (I am missing a few pieces, not only totally obscure ones but I am too lazy to check the details and don't really care to close the small gaps) l must be with
- Ockeghem (Gaudeamus box, not sure how complete it is)
- Beethoven (I lack e.g. Der glorreiche Augenblick but I have the two early cantatas and all Irish/Scottish etc. songs)
- Brahms (maybe a few lieder but I must have most of them, not aware of any other major lacunae)
- Bruckner (none of the early piano stuff and also missing a few lesser known choral pieces)
- Webern (not sure)
With JS Bach I still lack a quarter or more of the cantatas; I think I have all or most of the rest. This is the only gap I expect to eventually close. Also Schubert's lieder (I am not going for all of his operas and early church pieces, though). Schumann also must be very small gaps (choral, incidental, lieder, it cannot be much). The same with Stravinsky, I guess.
Checking quickly, the Gaudeamus Ockeghem seems to have only two secular chansons.
The Hyperion Schumann lieder set is a good way to get that segment of his work.
They're probably OOP, but EMI had nice sets of the complete choral works for both Schumann and Schubert.
Yes, I didn't get that Ockeghem box with complete works in mind, just was not sure as it is not clear from the cover and there are some older composers with rather few extant works. (Like Bruhns; but I have only single works of his on anthologies.)
I have too many Schumann (and Schubert and Brahms) Lieder to get complete boxes, this would be too many doublings. I have the supposedly complete choral (without orchestra) works by Brahms on Brilliant and I am not sufficiently into a cappella (or choir + piano) to get the same for Schumann, Schubert, Mendelssohn, but I have anthologies with some of this repertoire.
As I wrote, my first reaction was that I don't have any oeuvre complete; I was a bit surprised to have 4 composers basically complete as I usually don't go for these boxes/editions nowadays but both the Corelli and the Chopin I got 10 or more years ago and they were both only moderately large and very cheap.
I own very few complete works of any composers. Partly because the composers, whom I am interested in, as a rule haven't got their complete works recorded, partly because the so called complete composer releases rarely are complete in a strict sense.
Quote from: absolutelybaching on June 15, 2021, 10:53:30 AM
Britten. Thanks to the Decca 2013 centenary box, plus numerous additions accumulated since 1982.
Vaughan Williams (as far as anyone can)
Bach, judging by BWV numbers
Mozart, judging by Koechels.
Vivaldi, if I go by current RV numbers.
Wagner.
Verdi.
Mostly, I despise collecting composers by completion. But I get the attraction. I try hard not to be a completionist!
That Britten Decca box set is one of the many gems of my collection. Such a tremendous set and remarkable presentation. I'd say anyone who is a Britten fan and missed this box set, should do their damnedest to track it down and buy it. I have to hand it to Decca in this instance --- they pulled out all the stops.
Quote from: absolutelybaching on June 16, 2021, 12:28:48 AM
Agree re: the Decca box, but I see it now sells for ridiculous amounts of money, assuming you can ever see it listed for sale anywhere. I think they broke it out into sub-collections after 2013, so you can get the 'complete operas' and so on, but not the 'complete works' any more, which is a shame. You have to strike whilst the iron's hot these days, lest the dreaded 'out of print' hammer fall!
To the bold text, you certainly are right about that! I've made this mistake far too many times.