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Title: Performances of Graphic and Text Scores.
Post by: Mandryka on April 22, 2017, 10:53:32 PM
I bet there are some fabulous things! But apart from The Scratch Orchestra's CD of The Great Learning, Hespos's Z and maybe some things by Cage (are the song books graphic scores?), I don't think I've heard anything.

Do any of the composers here use graphic scores? And if not, why not?  Are you all anal control freaks or something?

Oh, here's stripsody

https://www.youtube.com/v/0dNLAhL46xM
Title: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: Leo K. on May 05, 2017, 09:19:16 AM
All of my scores are graphic in nature. The constructed book of the score itself, and the overall design, is indeed part of the music - if indeed it is played or just imagined.

https://toddwinkels.weebly.com/


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Title: Re: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: Mandryka on May 06, 2017, 04:48:27 AM
Quote from: Leo K. on May 05, 2017, 09:19:16 AM
All of my scores are graphic in nature. The constructed book of the score itself, and the overall design, is indeed part of the music - if indeed it is played or just imagined.

http://toddvanbuskirk.weebly.com/music-scores.html (http://toddvanbuskirk.weebly.com/music-scores.html)


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I had know idea you were such a creative person, bold ideas too, thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: amw on May 06, 2017, 06:18:36 AM
I've never made a graphic score but that's mostly just because I can't draw
Title: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: Leo K. on May 06, 2017, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on May 06, 2017, 04:48:27 AM
I had know idea you were such a creative person, bold ideas too, thanks for posting.

Thank you very much Mandryka, that's a real honor coming from you!


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Title: Re: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: Mandryka on July 29, 2017, 10:58:39 AM
Iannis Xenakis - Pithoprakta

https://www.youtube.com/v/nvH2KYYJg-o

I think the images are so beautiful I'm trying to find a way to put part of it on the wall. Is it Xenakis's score or is it someone's graphic reconstruction? I see now it's a graphic realisation by Pierre Carré.
Title: Re: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: Mandryka on August 02, 2017, 05:41:04 AM
Cardew's Treatise very well presented with the score here

https://www.youtube.com/v/b0V9_xqaw8Q
Title: Re: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: Mandryka on January 05, 2021, 12:34:17 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_y7gBPwHoDNs/Rw-OIFnDngI/AAAAAAAAACs/rt02CaT09GA/s400/Wolff+Edges+Score.jpg)

Above is the score of Christopher Wolff's Edges

Here is what he said about it

QuoteThe idea of the piece and its basic performing instructions are this: the notations on the score are not so much playing instructions as such as reference points, that is, you play around it, at varying distances from the state of being intricate, and you can, but only once in a performance, imply play "intricate". The general notion I had was of the score's something like a photographic negative the developed picture of which would be realized by the player; or, to use another analogy, the playing would be like movement, dancing say, in a space containing a number of variously shaped but transparent and invisible objects which the dancing generally avoids, but which as the dancing kept on would become evident, visible so to speak, because they are always being danced around.

Absolutely tremendous performance here

(https://img.discogs.com/LmUuJ-d2KYB8eMN-haTohtqn5gI=/fit-in/600x540/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2502384-1287609729.jpeg.jpg)
Title: Re: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: Mandryka on January 06, 2021, 08:02:47 AM
https://soundcloud.com/willredman/book-thelema-trio

(https://www.hallwalls.org/music/music-images/book0002cropped.jpg)

QuoteBook (2006) is an unordered collection of 98 graphic compositions. The compositions represent extensions and extrapolations of conventional music notation and are available for use in any part, for any duration, by any number of performer(s), in any place, at any time. The notation and form are flexible enough to allow the performers' abilities and interest to have extraordinary influence over the interpretation of them. But no matter how radical the interpretation or what portions, quantities or combinations of pages are used, the melodic, harmonic, textural, rhythmic and formal genetics of the composition as(//) a whole remain evident.
Title: Re: Performances of Graphic Scores.
Post by: Mandryka on May 12, 2021, 09:30:07 AM
Here's Earle Brown's Four Systems

(http://www.earle-brown.org/images/work/full.12.jpg)

And here's the only performance of it which seems to have ever been recorded commercially, though there seem to be a few on YouTube.

(https://img.discogs.com/GJ39Lz6pJUWo4p_iOM6GpFYyKQA=/fit-in/600x586/filters:strip_icc():format(webp):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1121135-1194477737.jpeg.jpg)