What are you listening 2 now?

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absolutelybaching

Quote from: pjme on April 13, 2023, 11:44:45 PMGlad our "nipplegate" is over. And, yes, "sensitivities" are different in Great Britain and the US....I can live with that.

Time to start the morning with some raucous Chopin and languorous Schumann.


Honestly, it had nothing to do with 'sensitivities'. I didn't freak out at the Jackson 'boob' Super Bowl incident as some of my American cousins might have done; and I am not phased in the least by the sight of naked women. The imagery was inappropriate for here, I think, but that has nothing to do with differing perceptions or 'sensitivities' as to what constitutes obscenity.

The only issue I had was: we shouldn't objectify women and reduce talented pianists to "girls who can't find a dress to fit". I would think people on either side of the Atlantic could agree with that.

I get that different cultures may regard the status of women differently. But just as I wouldn't want to be a participant in a forum in which every other post ended with 'Allahu Akbar', so I wouldn't want to participate in a forum where every other post ended with, 'Phwoar! Look at the appendages on her!' or 'It's just the Latin temperament'. So, either the forum cleans up its casual sexism act, or I'm off. I'll make my judgment in my own time, but I'm certainly assessing the evidence right now.

In short: it wasn't the breasts, but the attitudes.

Anyway. I'm not going to post here again for a while. I'll assess whether gratuitous sexism is the life blood here (which I never previously thought it was, but hey: looks like I might have been mistaken). If it is, I'm off. If not, not. We'll see.

Brahmsian

Quote from: absolutelybaching on April 14, 2023, 11:02:16 AM[/i]So, either the forum cleans up its casual sexism act, or I'm off.


Interestingly, I might be leaving for the exact opposite reason.  I think the excessive and heavy handed prudishness is absolutely ridiculous and overboard.

absolutelybaching

Quote from: OrchestralNut on April 14, 2023, 11:06:01 AMInterestingly, I might be leaving for the exact opposite reason.  I think the excessive and heavy handed prudishness is absolutely ridiculous and overboard.

Fair enough, but I haven't seen evidence for prudishness.
I'm all for full-frontal nakedness that makes artistic sense in context. Just not 'nice boobs' commentary, basically.
I'd be very sorry to see you go, anyway. Hang on in there for a bit.

prémont

Quote from: OrchestralNut on April 14, 2023, 11:06:01 AMInterestingly, I might be leaving for the exact opposite reason.  I think the excessive and heavy handed prudishness is absolutely ridiculous and overboard.

Yes, indeed. But fortunately it is not that often relevant, and for my part I prefer to concentrate on what is GMG's purpose - namely the music.
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Linz

Another Bruckner symphony No. 3 in D Minor this time with Eugen Jochum and the Staatskapelle Dresden

Florestan

Nobody should leave and I hope nobody will.
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

absolutelybaching

Quote from: Florestan on April 14, 2023, 11:28:04 AMNobody should leave and I hope nobody will.
Then clean up your act.

Florestan

There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

absolutelybaching

Quote from: Florestan on April 14, 2023, 11:32:46 AMOh, come on!
Precisely.

Your complete inability to accept any criticism of 'your Latin culture' regaring 'the laidiees' is an issue, I'm sorry to say. When challenged, you double down.

Which is entirely your privilege, but it's sickening.

Florestan

Quote from: absolutelybaching on April 14, 2023, 11:36:27 AMPrecisely.

Your complete inability to accept any criticism of 'your Latin culture' regaring 'the laidiees' is an issue, I'm sorry to say. When challenged, you double down.

Which is entirely your privilege, but it's sickening.


Nonsense. On stilts. And that's will be my last comment.
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

Quote from: Brian on April 13, 2023, 01:07:19 PMBlame Karl's Mitropoulos writeup for inspiring this.



(Will next have to look up the actual Mitropoulos versions.)

How does Schwarz do/ How did you like the Second?

Quote from: Karl Henning on April 14, 2023, 07:23:09 AMThis actually got bumped to today, so the Bruch is in celebration of First-Listen Friday!
CD 4

Felix Mendelssohn
Vn Cto in e minor, Op. 64
Berlin Radio Symphony
Ferenc Fricsay

Max Bruch
Vn Cto № 1 in g minor, Op. 26
Bamberg Symphony
Ferdinand Leitner

"Wolferl"
Vn Cto № 4 in D, K. 218
Berlin Phil
Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt
The whole disc is a delight, and naturally I went back immediately for another listen to the Bruch!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Traverso

Schumann, Brahms & Bach-Busoni


Cato

Quote from: Linz on April 14, 2023, 11:27:41 AMAnotherBruckner symphony No. 3 in D Minor this time with Eugen Jochum and the Staatskapelle Dresden


You seem to be listening in order: I am interested in knowing whether you think your perception/appreciation of the works might be somehow changed or affected.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

absolutelybaching

Quote from: Florestan on April 14, 2023, 11:40:44 AMNonsense. On stilts. And that's will be my last comment.

That you dismiss the concerns speaks volumes of you. Not well, mind you. Just volumes.
It's precisely what I expected of you, of course, given your previous performance in another thread.
I'm happy that's your last comment, since none seem to be particularly nuanced with Enlightenment insight. I can't say I'm surprised.
Nevertheless, if you are true to your word, then I'll be true to mine.

Cato

#90454
Concerning the set of CD's of monophonic recordings (1920's-1950's) by pianist Marcelle Meyer:


Quote from: Traverso on April 14, 2023, 09:59:04 AMIn general the recordings are of excellent quality considering their age. Of course everything is mono but more importantly Marcelle Meyer's piano playing pushes back all reservations if any. I listened to her Rameau and I was so touched that I  prefer her recording instead of the original on harpsichord played by Rousset. Its unadorned sophistication and musicality make all objections futile. There is a cheap edition which is not from EMI but otherwise I think identical, a must for piano enthusiasts I think.


Many thanks for the reply! 

For those who would like a sample:

"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

prémont

Quote from: Karl Henning on April 14, 2023, 11:40:59 AMThe whole disc is a delight, and naturally I went back immediately for another listen to the Bruch!

You may look forward to CD 3, 2 and 1, which are equally outstanding.
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Bachtoven

This is an excellent new release--superb playing and sound.

Traverso

Quote from: Cato on April 14, 2023, 11:49:24 AMConcerning the set of CD's of monophonic recordings (1920's-1950's) by pianist Marcelle Meyer:


Many thanks for the reply! 

For those who would like a sample:



I like to add this one,it is of a really disarming beauty.

DavidW

Listening to this wonderful recording yet again... should I buy it?


Mapman

Quote from: Karl Henning on April 14, 2023, 11:40:59 AMHow does Schwarz do/ How did you like the Second?

I played Borodin's 2nd in high school, and our conductor liked Schwarz's recording. I listened to the 4th movement somewhat recently, and wasn't particularly impressed; it seemed to be a bit lower-energy. (My first recording, which is still one I enjoy, was Tjeknavorian.)