G'day ! 8)
As I discussed with Madiel last year, hidden into the French thread posts of all places, I got hooked on this sport during the end of last season's finals and it has now carried over into this season.
Watching a great game between Collingwood and Brisbane right now.
Having read the AFL page and rules on wiki has helped to some understanding and appreciation of the game but I will have some questions and comments to post soon.
I have decided to support Geelong Cats this season because :
- I like white and navy, like my French football/soccer team
- They seem to be regular enough in the top of the ladder but not winning that often, losing in last year's finals
- Hawkins is the only player I seem to have registered so far (also Dustin Martin but he is too good and winning too much of late with Richmond, not fun to support :P )
- Their song is based on Carmen's Toreador by Bizet. A French composer. Took it as a sign :laugh:
Any fans/followers of AFL here ?
PS: sign of the times, but god it also feels really good to watch a sport with a real crowd again.
Goodness me, what did I start? ;D
How are you managing to watch it?
Quote from: Madiel on April 01, 2021, 02:39:24 AM
Goodness me, what did I start? ;D
How are you managing to watch it?
I know ;D
BT Sport in the UK broadcast about 3 or 4 games of each round and repeats some again in the following days. so I can catch some quarters here and there or more. Even if Geelong is not shwon, I'll still enjoy some other teams and games.
One of the other reasons I got into it last year is because I randomly came across a documentary on BBC about Adam Goodes. Even if the documentary was covering an uglier side of the sport, it triggered enough interest for me to look at the games themselves.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RAzAHYyPc48/maxresdefault.jpg)
Hold on a second !!
Why has no-one told me that the Brisbane Lions song was based on the French Anthem !! This changes everything ??? :o Is it too late to change allegiance again ? :laugh: Very gritty team they are, they gave Geelong a serious run for their money to the end in the last round and this time, they did manage to overtake Collingwood at the siren. Great stuff.
LOL! I heard the song and immediately wondered what reaction there would be. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Honestly I can't keep track of most of the team songs, and the whole phenomenon of team songs is really quite strange.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_Football_League_team_songs
As for the game, that's the first time this year I've actually remembered to watch something. I switched it on when I saw the score was close near the end of the 3rd quarter. The classic cliffhanger finish every player dreams about, although the reaction wasn't as wild as it would be in a match between 2 Melbourne teams.
A big part of why I love AFL is the way the momentum can shift.
Had to look it up. It's because of...Casablanca :laugh:
https://www.lions.com.au/news/388921/origins-of-our-club-song (https://www.lions.com.au/news/388921/origins-of-our-club-song)
See, you're even teaching me about Australian culture (though it depends considerably on which part of Australia you're in or from).
What would the significance or popularity of the three "footballs" in Australia? In order of popularity?
Australian Rules
Rugby
Football (soccer)
Quote from: OrchestralNut on April 01, 2021, 03:55:32 AM
What would the significance or popularity of the three "footballs" in Australia? In order of popularity?
Australian Rules
Rugby
Football (soccer)
You have to split "Rugby" into "Rugby League" and "Rugby Union", for starters...
Culturally, Australia can be pretty sport-obsessed. The variety of football you're obsessed with has historically indicated things about your origins or class, although I'd say that's broken down a bit in recent decades.
Essentially, New South Wales and Queensland are rugby country - rugby league being more working class and rugby union more upper class (union is rather struggling with its profile at the moment). The other states traditionally focus on Aussie Rules, with Melbourne (Victoria's capital) being completely obsessed. A Melbourne newspaper isn't complete without AFL coverage across the sports pages. That is if you remember newspapers.
And AFL definitely gets the bigger crowds (in normal times without any sorts of restrictions).
As for football, well that used to basically indicate that your origins were foreign (ie European). Once upon a time most of the clubs had a strong ethnic basis. Around the 1990s there was push to make clubs focus on geography rather than ethnicity, which I think has worked over time at least in the highest level competition. There's still often more interest in what's happening in Europe than here though.
Right, here are a few questions on things that are unclear to me so far :
Q1 - There are 18 teams in the league and they play 22 games over 23 rounds in the regular season. After a bit of looking around, it seems each team has a bye and also plays 5 teams twice over that season. How are those 5 teams determined ? Is it a random draw every year ? For instance, Geelong will play Richmond twice this year. Could that still be the case next year, or do those 5 teams rotate from a year to the next ? how important is this particular doubling of those games on the overall season ?
Q2 - Looking at the table/ladder over the last few years, there always seems to be some very drastic changes from one year to the next. e.g. one team can very well finish 16th one year, 4the next and back to the bottom again after. Why such a disparity from year to year ? Recruitment/transfers, drafts ?
Q3 - I am in general clear on the goals and behinds from foot kicks. If the ball is pushed between goal posts by hand or hits the goal post, the goal is reduced to a behind. What happens is the ball is kicked for a behind but hits one of the post on the way in ? Is the behind cancelled or remains as is ?
Q4 - I am not not clear on the referee's decision making when the ball is contested in bundles on the ground after a tackle or kerfuffle of that type ? any guidance please ? Sometimes it goes to one of the teams, sometimes it is a vertical throw by the referee. I gathered there were case of "holding the ball" (like not releasing it in the ruck in rugby union) but beyond it is very muddled.
Q5 - Likewise, I am not clear on the decision making when the ball gets out of boundary. I have not sussed out why in some instances it goes to one of the teams or it goes to the referee to throw. Any guidance please ?
Q6 - When a mark is granted to a player, why is the onus to move back on the player that did the mark and not on the "loser" of the mark, thereby losing some territory to the team that won the mark ?
Q7 - In which case is the onus to move back on the defender, i.e. I saw an example of a (50m?) penalty against a player that hadn't moved back (10 or 15m minimum ?) quickly enough but I don't remember the instance ?
Q8 - Has a referee ever knocked himself in the face after a bounce up ? have to ask :laugh:
Q9 - I read it is illegal to push a player in the back. Is that only the case if that player doesn't hold the ball? If a player holds the ball, can you push him, under the assumption you are attempting a tackle or just to destabilise him? There seems to be cases where the referee let some go.
Q10 - Like in rugby, You are not allowed, rightly, to do a high tackle (above the shoulders) but it seems you are allowed to "climb" up the back and up on the shoulders of an opponent to win a mark ?
Q11 - Is there a system of yellow/red cards for violent conducts/tackles. I watched a video on YT of such violent conducts and there were mentions of reporting the player (I assume like citing the player in rugby union?). Does the player committing such infringement leave the game immediately or is that dealt with after the game?
I think that's it for now. Thank you for any clarifications coming.
I am off to the AFL glossary to sort out my bumps, my shepherds and my grubbers :laugh:
Oh boy, so many questions! Some easier to answer than others but I'll do my best.
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Q1 - There are 18 teams in the league and they play 22 games over 23 rounds in the regular season. After a bit of looking around, it seems each team has a bye and also plays 5 teams twice over that season. How are those 5 teams determined ? Is it a random draw every year ? For instance, Geelong will play Richmond twice this year. Could that still be the case next year, or do those 5 teams rotate from a year to the next ? how important is this particular doubling of those games on the overall season ?
This has been a problem since the league grew too big for everyone to play twice, yes. It's not fully random, I know that they split the teams into 'top 6', 'middle 6' and 'bottom 6' from the results in the previous year, and somehow there are rules to make sure that the 5 teams are drawn fairly evenly from those groups. But I still don't know exactly how it works, and I suspect it's not completely random because there are some rivalries that the AFL really likes to have 2 games in a year for.
I know that each year there will be articles assessing who got a good or bad draw. Though that might be partly because, say, a team that was 'middle 6' is actually considered to be improving and likely to do better the following year.
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Q2 - Looking at the table/ladder over the last few years, there always seems to be some very drastic changes from one year to the next. e.g. one team can very well finish 16th one year, 4the next and back to the bottom again after. Why such a disparity from year to year ? Recruitment/transfers, drafts ?
Yes to both. Australian competitions (not just AFL) have policies like drafts and salary caps that are very much designed to prevent what happens in European football competitions, where the same wealthy clubs constantly take all the best players. Drafts are a big thing in the AFL, with the clubs doing a lot of negotiation to swap draft picks as part of deals to transfer players. It's not that common to see
such a big change in a single year, but I know that has happened a little bit recently. Overall the competition is kept close by these systems, which is a good thing in my view.
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Q3 - I am in general clear on the goals and behinds from foot kicks. If the ball is pushed between goal posts by hand or hits the goal post, the goal is reduced to a behind. What happens is the ball is kicked for a behind but hits one of the post on the way in ? Is the behind cancelled or remains as is ?
If the ball hits the outer posts, it's out of bounds, a complete miss. So same principle of 'reducing' really.
QuoteQ4 - I am not not clear on the referee's decision making when the ball is contested in bundles on the ground after a tackle or kerfuffle of that type ? any guidance please ? Sometimes it goes to one of the teams, sometimes it is a vertical throw by the referee. I gathered there were case of "holding the ball" (like not releasing it in the ruck in rugby union) but beyond it is very muddled.
Yes, 'holding the ball' means you had a chance to release it and didn't. You must try to release it when tackled. However, the referee will do a throw if the person with the ball never got a decent chance to release it, or if no particular player had control of the ball and it's not coming out of the mass of players.
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Q5 - Likewise, I am not clear on the decision making when the ball gets out of boundary. I have not sussed out why in some instances it goes to one of the teams or it goes to the referee to throw. Any guidance please ?
You're not allowed to deliberately put the ball out of bounds (rather different to most sports!). Whereas if it goes out of bounds just because it's bouncing all over the place, the referee throws it in. It can be a matter of
considerable debate as to whether someone was deliberately putting the ball out or it just 'happened' to go out while they were trying to do something else. Defenders in particular are likely to develop skills in the art of getting the ball to go out without making it obvious that's what they wanted.
Part 2..
QuoteQ6 - When a mark is granted to a player, why is the onus to move back on the player that did the mark and not on the "loser" of the mark, thereby losing some territory to the team that won the mark ?
I really don't know. It's just always been that way. The defender gets to stand on the spot.
QuoteQ7 - In which case is the onus to move back on the defender, i.e. I saw an example of a (50m?) penalty against a player that hadn't moved back (10 or 15m minimum ?) quickly enough but I don't remember the instance ?
If the defender runs forward to the spot or fails to go back to the right spot then yes, they'll be penalised. Referees can often be heard yelling at players to get back to what the referee considers the right spot, and failing to obey is pretty much guaranteed to lead to a 50m penalty. Fun fact: yesrs ago the penalty used to only be 15 metres. It sure made a difference when it became 50.
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Q8 - Has a referee ever knocked himself in the face after a bounce up ? have to ask :laugh:
Oh yes. :laugh:
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Q9 - I read it is illegal to push a player in the back. Is that only the case if that player doesn't hold the ball? If a player holds the ball, can you push him, under the assumption you are attempting a tackle or just to destabilise him? There seems to be cases where the referee let some go.
It's always illegal, but again it's one of those things where you can have considerable debate about whether it was a proper tackle or a push in the back.
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Q10 - Like in rugby, You are not allowed, rightly, to do a high tackle (above the shoulders) but it seems you are allowed to "climb" up the back and up on the shoulders of an opponent to win a mark ?
Yes, but I think you'll find most of that climbing is a leap and then using your legs, not your arms.
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Q11 - Is there a system of yellow/red cards for violent conducts/tackles. I watched a video on YT of such violent conducts and there were mentions of reporting the player (I assume like citing the player in rugby union?). Does the player committing such infringement leave the game immediately or is that dealt with after the game?
No cards. Only being placed on report which is dealt with after the game, and the tribunal might ban the player for any number of games (the record is 9 games). For low level offences it might only be a warning that will affect the chances of being banned on the next offence. I often think it's a good thing because it means that a referee can't send someone off by mistake. Occasionally you will see situations where a player has done something really bad and you wish they could be sent off, or where winning that game is more important than missing the next one. But not very often.
PS Regarding the closeness of the competition, I don't know if we will ever see a season as good as 2016. Just take a look at the ladder from the end of the year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_AFL_season
The top 7 teams finished within 2 wins of each other.
Quote from: Madiel on April 03, 2021, 03:57:46 AM
Oh boy, so many questions! Some easier to answer than others but I'll do my best.
Thank you very much for taking the time, much appreciated. It puts a bit more structure to it all. I am sure Q4 & Q5 will make more sense as along the way as I watch more games. I start to really appreciate the tactical element & movement to it, players finding or creating the space, getting away from their marking opponent. I was wondering often why they don't kick to goals from the 50m line or thereabouts when they have some space to do so, but finding the gaps or creating the marks for a better position inside the 50m line make sense.
I just found out that all the matches' full replays (all rounds) are actually put up on the AFL official website and I can access them! I can watch them on catch up there the next day if I don't want to risk waking up my partner at 6am to watch Geelong live :laugh: I for sure will have to catch up today's Swans/Tigers game when it is put up. That sounded like a cracker. AFL.TV also works for me !
I need to find a video of Q8 now too 8)
Quote from: Madiel on April 03, 2021, 04:30:44 AM
PS Regarding the closeness of the competition, I don't know if we will ever see a season as good as 2016. Just take a look at the ladder from the end of the year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_AFL_season
The top 7 teams finished within 2 wins of each other.
Looked like a really exciting one. the AFL website also has a page with the injury list. Given the number per clubs, that must explain such topsy-turvy results throughout the season.
GWS (Greater Western Sydney) play a few games a year in Canberra. The first one for this year is on right now.
Still watching on television instead...
I just realised I should add to my answer about the ball going out of bounds.
If you kick it out on the full (no bounce), then it automatically goes to the other team. It doesn't matter if it was deliberate or not.
Quote from: Madiel on April 04, 2021, 01:31:16 AM
GWS (Greater Western Sydney) play a few games a year in Canberra. The first one for this year is on right now.
Still watching on television instead...
Is that the team you "barrack" for ? (I knew that glossary would be handy at some point ;D )
Quote from: Madiel on April 04, 2021, 02:38:56 AM
I just realised I should add to my answer about the ball going out of bounds.
If you kick it out on the full (no bounce), then it automatically goes to the other team. It doesn't matter if it was deliberate or not.
noted, thank you.
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 04, 2021, 02:56:27 AM
Is that the team you "barrack" for ? (I knew that glossary would be handy at some point ;D )
:laugh: :laugh: He's got the lingo (language) already.
Actually no. I don't really go for a specific team these days. Just whoever's play I enjoy and/or whoever has the sexiest players. :D
I know in theory I'm meant to support GWS but I really cannot stand one of their star players.
Quote from: Madiel on April 04, 2021, 03:30:50 AM
:laugh: :laugh: He's got the lingo (language) already.
Actually no. I don't really go for a specific team these days. Just whoever's play I enjoy and/or whoever has the sexiest players. :D
I know in theory I'm meant to support GWS but I really cannot stand one of their star players.
All reasons are valid ;D
I caught the last 10 minutes live of Cats v Hawks Q4 yesterday morning UK time. That was another one where Geelong hung in there just about, it was tense and I really got into it. Must admit, I did have a supporter's moment when Clark scored this one.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/578672/jordan-clark-turns-into-usain-bolt-in-stunning-cat-surge?videoId=578672&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1617609206001 (https://www.afl.com.au/video/578672/jordan-clark-turns-into-usain-bolt-in-stunning-cat-surge?videoId=578672&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1617609206001)
And then Hawthorn scored straight afterwards with a round the corner kick, just to keep "us" on our toes. I think I am converted now and sticking with the Cats.
I re-watched the full game on the AFL replay today. Great game throughout and I was still nervous throughout Q4 even though I knew the result :laugh: I did pay closer attention to the contests and the referees decisions during the game. Still some grey areas here and there but in the main, the explanations you provided were of great help, thank you again.
Oh and I found the AFL StatsPro page on the AFL site. Lots of stats everywhere !!!!!! Happy as a pig in the proverbial... 8)
That was a pretty good goal!
Watching Sydney v Essendon right now, and it's a potential thriller. I might have to put the sound on and stop listening to Dvorak. :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on April 08, 2021, 03:25:51 AM
Watching Sydney v Essendon right now, and it's a potential thriller. I might have to put the sound on and stop listening to Dvorak. :laugh:
I had the game in the background this morning. Based on the final score, I'll probably catch it up again with full attention when it is up on the AFL website. I have Port Adelaide - Richmond live in the morning. Could be a good'un too.
I hate this !!?$&??@#!! sport...Useless !!?$&??@#!! Cats >:( >:( :laugh:
Only saw the last 15 minutes to be fair but that was enough... 0:)
Need to catch up Q4 of Port Adelaide - Richmond. I enjoyed the first 3 quarters live.
Fairweather fan. That's not how they do it in Victoria...
I tipped Geelong to win, but so did almost everyone else in the office tipping competition and I've still won the week. ;D One of my colleagues is a Melbourne supporter so he'll very happy with their current progress.
EDIT: I just looked at the next round... you'll want to keep with Geelong, definitely.
Quote from: Madiel on April 11, 2021, 02:37:41 AM
Fairweather fan. That's not how they do it in Victoria...
I tipped Geelong to win, but so did almost everyone else in the office tipping competition and I've still won the week. ;D One of my colleagues is a Melbourne supporter so he'll very happy with their current progress.
EDIT: I just looked at the next round... you'll want to keep with Geelong, definitely.
Congrats on winning the pools !
oh I am sticking with Geelong, I just didn't particularly feel like waking up at 6am on a Sunday morning just for a round game :blank: I'll wait for the catch up to see it in full (that might be different once (if) we get to the preliminary finals etc...)
Now an AFL question : Are the hairdressers still shut in Australia ?.... or is this abundance of mullets an entirely voluntary choice on the part of the players ? ??? >:D (I am half sarcastic and, as a balding guy, of course possibly half jealous :laugh: )
Look, the mullet on the new Port Adelaide player was amazing/appalling. :laugh:
Lachie Jones I presume ? :laugh:
Commentators seemed impressed by his game in what I saw against Richmond, particularly for a rookie's first game.
I caught up Q4 of Port Adelaide - Richmond yesterday and that's probably one of the best quarters I have seen so far this season, really gritty and intense in terms of defending. I'd recommend it.
On the downside, that game must have ruffled Richmond because they are absolutely ruthless against St Kilda right now. It doesn't look like St Kilda will claw that one back like in the last round.
I haven't had the courage to sit through the Geelong catch up ;D
Question of the day: What is the tactical advantage of kicking the ball from the pocket most of time towards the boundary lines on the sides, instead of going straight ahead with as a long a shot as possible? If that shot is long enough and way beyond the 50m, that cancels any risk of conceding a goal straight back if an opponent wins the ball and kicks straight back ?
I haven't been watching Richmond-St Kilda but good to know my tip is safe...
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 15, 2021, 03:23:30 AM
Question of the day: What is the tactical advantage of kicking the ball from the pocket most of time towards the boundary lines on the sides, instead of going straight ahead with as a long a shot as possible? If that shot is long enough and way beyond the 50m, that cancels any risk of conceding a goal straight back if an opponent wins the ball and kicks straight back ?
Well it might prevent a goal
with a single kick, but you've seen just how rapidly the ball can move and if the opponent can send the ball for a forward to mark, you might only be delaying a goal by the amount of time it takes that forward to remove his mouthguard and adjust his socks...
..but you would get that same threat wherever you kick it, wouldn't you ?
is it mostly a matter then of closing the angle towards the goal posts as much as possible for a kicking threat ?
48-134...ouch ??? Nope, no comeback :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 15, 2021, 04:00:53 AM
..but you would get that same threat wherever you kick it, wouldn't you ?
is it mostly a matter then of closing the angle towards the goal posts as much as possible for a kicking threat ?
That's part of it. But if it's out to the sides, it's also easier to guard against a return kick (coming into a forward) because there's less option of the direction of that kick. If you kick down the centre and an opponent gets it, they might have options left, right and middle as to where they kick to a forward, making it harder to defend all the possibilities.
The tipping website our office competition uses shows the betting odds for matches.
I feel I should tell you: for Geelong vs North Melbourne, a $1 bet on Geelong pays $1.02, whereas a $1 bet on North Melbourne pays $14. That's amongst the most lopsided odds I've ever seen.
Quote from: Madiel on April 15, 2021, 04:10:53 AM
That's part of it. But if it's out to the sides, it's also easier to guard against a return kick (coming into a forward) because there's less option of the direction of that kick. If you kick down the centre and an opponent gets it, they might have options left, right and middle as to where they kick to a forward, making it harder to defend all the possibilities.
that makes sense, thank you.
Quote from: Madiel on April 15, 2021, 04:12:27 AM
The tipping website our office competition uses shows the betting odds for matches.
I feel I should tell you: for Geelong vs North Melbourne, a $1 bet on Geelong pays $1.02, whereas a $1 bet on North Melbourne pays $14. That's amongst the most lopsided odds I've ever seen.
This one won't be broadcast in the UK, so it will be catch up only. Given how topsy-turvy that game can be, you never know :blank:
(my French soccer team has the irritating and regular habit of "helping" teams that are on a losing streak to bounce back, starting against us. I know it is early in the season but it would be my luck that Geelong falls into this category too now that I have picked them ;D )
Cats up by only 6 at half-time...
hmm...not entirely reassuring, is it... :blank:
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 17, 2021, 11:53:14 PM
Cats up by only 6 at half-time...
hmm...not entirely reassuring, is it... :blank:
Very low score. Is it raining?
EDIT: No, it just seems that Geelong is refusing to kick goals in order to keep the game interesting.
Quote from: Madiel on April 18, 2021, 12:05:18 AM
Very low score. Is it raining?
EDIT: No, it just seems that Geelong is refusing to kick goals in order to keep the game interesting.
Not broadcast here, I have to make do with the AFL website timeline :-X
edit: I sense some sarcasm, in the way that you picked Geelong in your office pools and start to regret it ? :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 18, 2021, 12:18:46 AM
Not broadcast here, I have to make do with the AFL website timeline :-X
edit: I sense some sarcasm, in the way that you picked Geelong in your office pools and start to regret it ? :laugh:
No, they're doing a bit better now and it's always a hopeful sign when one side has so many more scoring shots. But really, I'd regard par to be when you score about as many goals as behinds, or slightly more goals. So a half-time score of 3.9 was just failing to convert chances. They're up to 6.11 now so that's an improvement.
EDIT: Can you listen to the radio stations available on the AFL website?
SECOND EDIT: It's not on television here either (only subscription service), but I just looked at weather radar to check the weather part. ;D But in the Match Centre there's a "listen live" link and various options for radio stations, at least for me there is.
Oh I never noticed that Listen Live button, thank you. Yes, I can access that. I am getting all the ads now :laugh: Some accents are (to me) broader than Neighbours and Home and Away :-[ ;D
I haven't found anything that is blocked so far. I can get all the match highlights, replays, AFL TV, also the podcasts and documentaries in the On Demand page. Anything worth a watch or recommendations, I'd welcome, particularly older legendary matches etc...
Up by 20 after Q3, that's better.
One article I found of interest yesterday: statistically, even after round Five, 6 of the 8 teams for the finals are usually established by that stage. Full article here :
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-when-is-the-top-eight-locked-afl-ladder-stats-teams-who-will-make-finals-history-analysis-latest-news/news-story/ce894fdfb1b3175c6a8a5ad304512824 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-when-is-the-top-eight-locked-afl-ladder-stats-teams-who-will-make-finals-history-analysis-latest-news/news-story/ce894fdfb1b3175c6a8a5ad304512824)
There is indeed a variety in our accents, and yes you will definitely hear some broad ones on something like a radio sports broadcast.
I'm not really familiar with all of the material available on the website, like podcasts or documentaries. Maybe my brother-in-law would know, but he'll just want you to watch anything that says Richmond is wonderful.
Fun fact regarding the radio broadcast: When I, so far, have only registered the Geelong names of Miers, Hawkins, Selwood and Tuohy, that leaves around 32 names on the pitch for whom I have absolutely no idea which side actually has the footy at that time :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Oh well, got to start somewhere ;D
I have started to register just a handful of other players' faces in other teams along the way (Dustin Martin since the final last year, now Josh Bruce, Jack Riewoldt, Tom Lynch, Eddie Betts, Lance Franklin come to mind) but not many more yet :-[
Oh look, it's not as if I know every player. And you might know more players than anyone else in a radius of 100 miles.
It was my turn last night to set questions for our weekly online zoom quiz. I threw in an AFL question (just because I could :laugh: ), asking how many points were scored for a goal in Aussie Rules. I saw some very perplexed looks in some of the webcam screens >:D That was my revenge for getting flipping Harry Potter questions thrown at us every other week 0:)
In other news, I sat through the Geelong v North Melbourne replay yesterday. Man, that was an absolute grind :-X
When I then moved on to Q1 of Swans v Giants, It was a shock to see some proper footy and realise how poor Geelong was at the moment ;D
He's already at the point where he makes comments about whether his team plays "proper footy"...
:laugh:
All from the comfort of my sofa... Just a bunch of slow moving barges... And they couldn't even manage an accurate daisy cutter to save their lives :laugh: :P
New expression learnt this morning while glancing at Giants v Bulldogs : "how did he miss that... It's a soda" when a GWS player missed a sitter of a goal.
Looking forward to Melbourne v Richmond in the morning now 8)
I have never ever heard of a soda. I have however heard of a thick accent.
As well as a Canberra game occurring on the coldest night of the year thus far, enabling the commentators to complain about the weather as they always ALWAYS do.
Quote from: Madiel on April 23, 2021, 03:20:25 PM
I have never ever heard of a soda. I have however heard of a thick accent.
>:D
Definitely the right expression, had to google yesterday just to make sure of what I had heard !
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-soda (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-soda)
Quote from: Madiel on April 23, 2021, 03:20:25 PM
As well as a Canberra game occurring on the coldest night of the year thus far, enabling the commentators to complain about the weather as they always ALWAYS do.
Oh yes ! if i had been given a dollar every time they said it was one degree, going to minus one degree towards the end of the game, i could have retired :laugh:
PS: Nice to wake up to such a winning result by Geelong !! Definitely one to catch up tomorrow 8)
Australians will readily complain about how cold Canberra is, but if Europeans or North Americans ask for specifics...
When winter comes, I'll regularly face maximum daily temperatures of 12 or 13 degrees C. And -4 at night!
Pleasant winter that ;D
Simple and touching Anzac ceremony before the Melbourne Richmond game by the way.
The crowd at the MCG just sounded insanely loud, after a long time of not really hearing that.
Quote from: Madiel on April 24, 2021, 04:59:51 AM
The crowd at the MCG just sounded insanely loud, after a long time of not really hearing that.
It is great to see such a crowd again, especially when the UK is only just doing some crowd trials of 1-4,000 in stadiums since Sunday only. Some long way to go here yet.
Also a bit unnerving to imagine oneself in the middle of such a crowd again.
My team, the Gold Coast Suns had a very good win against the Swans at home.
Quote from: Holden on April 24, 2021, 01:53:38 PM
My team, the Gold Coast Suns had a very good win against the Swans at home.
Welcome to the AFL thread and thank you for beating the Swans ;D 8)
Caught up with the Cats v Eagles game yesterday, sketchy to start with but then the Cats were rampant with 10 unanswered goals in a row in Q2. Nice one !
It seems that Jeremy Cameron is quite a good addition ;D
Great display by Richmond in the game just now against the Western Bulldogs.
Really looking forward to Swans v Cats, I have it broadcast on TV tomorrow morning 8)
The tipping for this round is fiendishly hard.
Apart from Melbourne v North Melbourne, where the quoted odds are $1.01 versus $17.00.
Quote from: Madiel on April 30, 2021, 04:37:25 AM
The tipping for this round is fiendishly hard.
Apart from Melbourne v North Melbourne, where the quoted odds are $1.01 versus $17.00.
I can imagine. I was looking at the ladder a moment ago, quite a few games with teams right next to one another.
One element that still takes some adjusting (both ways): sometimes a 30-point lead means nothing...
Like now >:(
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 02:42:43 AM
One element that still takes some adjusting (both ways): sometimes a 30-point lead means nothing...
Like now >:(
And this is
precisely why I love AFL (and what makes it different from a lot of sports). A shift in momentum can have a huge impact on the scoreline. In a really good game you can see the momentum shifts, and the key thing is whether a team can convert its momentum into points.
No-one is doing very well in the office tipping competition this weekend, so far. I'm on 1 out of 4. The leader is on 2.
Quote from: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 02:45:06 AM
And this is precisely why I love AFL (and what makes it different from a lot of sports). A shift in momentum can have a huge impact on the scoreline. In a really good game you can see the momentum shifts, and the key thing is whether a team can convert its momentum into points.
I see that point now. Nicely poised game now and some good phases so far on both sides. Quite a nice Saturday morning 8)
Quote from: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 02:45:06 AM
No-one is doing very well in the office tipping competition this weekend, so far. I'm on 1 out of 4. The leader is on 2.
Did you tip Geelong or Sydney ? $:) :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 02:54:28 AM
Did you tip Geelong or Sydney ? $:) :laugh:
I tipped Sydney, given it was in Sydney... I also tipped Port Adelaide against Brisbane and Brisbane is currently winning handsomely.
Quote from: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 02:59:25 AM
I tipped Sydney, given it was in Sydney... I also tipped Port Adelaide against Brisbane and Brisbane is currently winning handsomely.
I am NOT going to say "1 out 6 then" because that will come back and bite me in an hour's time :laugh:
oh well, it's biting me anyway :laugh:
Gold Coast had another win.
Quote from: Holden on May 01, 2021, 03:17:48 AM
Gold Coast had another win.
Everybody beats Collingwood though :P
(I am teasing, I know nothing, I just looked at the ladder ;D Congrats on the win 8) )
Gold Coast is winning more than expected, Collingwood is losing more than expected.
Meanwhile, back in Sydney...
... that WAS tense. :laugh:
oh well....great game to watch still... :(
Richmond next :blank:
Quote from: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 04:11:29 AM
Gold Coast is winning more than expected, Collingwood is losing more than expected.
Meanwhile, back in Sydney...
... that WAS tense. :laugh:
edge of seat stuff...why wasn't it a mark by Cameron right at the end by the way ? No a proper kick or out of bounds ?
I think I am properly converted now 8)
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 04:14:27 AM
edge of seat stuff...why wasn't it a mark by Cameron right at the end by the way ? No a proper kick or out of bounds ?
The umpire said the kick wasn't 15 metres (which is the minimum distance). The commentators seem to think it was.
Quote from: Madiel on May 01, 2021, 04:22:14 AM
The umpire said the kick wasn't 15 metres (which is the minimum distance). The commentators seem to think it was.
OK, must have missed that while I was swearing/shouting at the TV 0:)
They are all there, in all their glory 8)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0iRqpwUUAAhBpm?format=jpg&name=large)
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Oh dear. Give me short hair any day.
Quite.
I'd take a good pair of clippers to them with a No.1 or No.2 on...if I could catch them, that is :laugh:
That will teach me to follow the AFL tweeter account ???
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 01, 2021, 02:42:43 AM
One element that still takes some adjusting (both ways): sometimes a 30-point lead means nothing...
I am just quoting myself to convince myself of this when we'll be in that position after Q1.... >:( :laugh:
(great footy from Richmond though :-X )
*checks the scoreboard*
See, now I wonder what you were complaining about. ;)
Quote from: Madiel on May 07, 2021, 02:52:38 AM
*checks the scoreboard*
See, now I wonder what you were complaining about. ;)
the fast counter-attacking of Richmond... that's what :laugh:
Geelong is definitely improving compared to the first games though, that's good.
Oh Cameron yeeees !!! you beauty...
god I need that half time...
A minute ago, after the most recent goal, I thought "oh boy, Olivier is really going to be hooked on this sport now". :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on May 07, 2021, 03:41:55 AM
A minute ago, after the most recent goal, I thought "oh boy, Olivier is really going to be hooked on this sport now". :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 33 means nothing
leading by 34 means nothing
It feels effin' good though...
*breathes*
Am I too old to have a Cameron and an Hawkins poster in the bedroom ? Not sure how my beloved would take it :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Last week was double points round in my local pub's tipping competition. Not a good time to only pick four games. The one plus is that very few others picked the upset results either but I have dropped a bit further behind the leader.
The uncertainty of it all is just mind boggling.
The timeline of GWS v Essendon earlier on is a case in point. They were up +30 in Q1, back down to +4 or 5 in Q2, up +30 in Q3 and only eventually won with +2 :o
yep, 30 points means nothing...
Guess whose idea it was to book one's 2nd vaccine jab slap bang in the middle of Q2 of Saints v Cats later this morning ??? get your priorities right, man... ;D
Go Cats !! 0:)
Good grief. And I haven't even been bothering watching, I've been catching up on last night's Premier League instead...
The sporting grass is always greener somewhere else.
But the halftime score, hmmm.... St Kilda by 3 points. But as it's 3.11(29) to 4.2(26), it appears that St Kilda is generously avoiding kicking goals. That may return to bite them.
Quote from: Madiel on May 14, 2021, 03:04:42 AM
Good grief. And I haven't even been bothering watching, I've been catching up on last night's Premier League instead...
The sporting grass is always greener somewhere else.
But the halftime score, hmmm.... St Kilda by 3 points. But as it's 3.11(29) to 4.2(26), it appears that St Kilda is generously avoiding kicking goals. That may return to bite them.
They were 0.7(7) after Q1, we were let off the hook really. And biting them in the end it did, thankfully.
Back home in time for Q3, a scrappy game but a good 4 pts in the bag.
Holden's team for us next weekend 8)
Looks like a fairly steady win for the Cats against the Suns earlier today, based on the timeline. I'll catch this one up tomorrow once the AFL Website has uploaded it.
Melbourne and Richmond losing are good surprises 8)
I wasn't surprised by Richmond losing. Melbourne, on the other hand... well no-one in my office competition picked it.
I've not being paying much attention. With Eurovision I have my hands full. :laugh:
1. I tipped Fremantle.
2. Phew!
Aaah waking up to a Geelong victory result.
Good times (Even if Brisbane overtook us in the ladder) 8)
and G'day ! ;D
I now know that I don't like a weekend with a "Bye" >:(
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 04, 2021, 04:40:56 AM
I now know that I don't like a weekend with a "Bye" >:(
Lol. But it gives players a rest, and injured players more time to get back.
Yay it's game day !!!
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For you at least :P
Pretty good, very close game so far.
Good recovery from -21 to + 3 at half time for Geelong. That made the crowd quiet at least.
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 09, 2021, 02:42:30 PM
Yay it's game day !!!
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For you at least :P
Frankly you knew before I did. I trust you enjoyed.
Very good game, got it on BT broadcast up here.
Geelong stepped it up gradually after going 21 behind to take it over the line, but I was still very nervous at +15 with only 3 minutes to go :laugh:
Bulldogs in our next game, it's going to be a tough one again.
I note in passing that my sister is thoroughly unimpressed by your decision to select Geelong as the team you identify with. :laugh:
I could be smug but that will come back and bite me, so I'll keep shtum 0:)
(PS: I am sorry if her neck strains, looking us up the ladder though... :laugh: )
Dare I ask about the weekly tipping/pools competition ? A few "red L" in the top half of the ladder in this last round ???
A certainly tasty Cats v Bulldogs to come later this week... we have a green streak to defend 8)
You may dare to ask, so long as I may burst into tears. ;)
Oh, there always this weekend...or the next :-X ;D
Found out from the fixtures that the last byes are this weekend and then it is all equal again in the ladder...at last!!
Also had a quick look ahead at how the finals work with the top 8. Could be tasty if Richmond stays in 5-8 and one of the 1-4 drops a bit.
is there a stat somewhere on how often a team finishing top of the ladder actually ended up winning the Grand Final ? Just wondered.
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 15, 2021, 06:13:40 AM
is there a stat somewhere on how often a team finishing top of the ladder actually ended up winning the Grand Final ? Just wondered.
Not that I'm aware of. It's probably out there somewhere.
They changed the finals system in 2000. Before that for a few years they used the
mathematically more appropriate McIntyre system: starting with 1v8, 2v7, 3v6 and 4v5.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_final_eight_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntyre_Final_Eight_System
And for many years when the competition was smaller it was only the top 5 teams, not the top 8. Apparently it was top 6 for a little while in between.
Quote from: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 04:01:58 AM
Not that I'm aware of. It's probably out there somewhere.
They changed the finals system in 2000. Before that for a few years they used the mathematically more appropriate McIntyre system: starting with 1v8, 2v7, 3v6 and 4v5.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_final_eight_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntyre_Final_Eight_System
And for many years when the competition was smaller it was only the top 5 teams, not the top 8. Apparently it was top 6 for a little while in between.
Why make it simple when we can make it complicated, in both cases really ! A straight shoot-out playoff would have been too easy :laugh:
(one sleep !!!! 8) )
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 17, 2021, 04:14:14 AM
Why make it simple when we can make it complicated, in both cases really ! A straight shoot-out playoff would have been too easy :laugh:
(one sleep !!!! 8) )
You're European. You're not used to finals series...
I think it was the rugby league rather than the AFL that got rid of the McIntyre system partially because of the year that 5th defeated 4th, 6th defeated 3rd, 7th defeated 2nd and 8th defeated 1st. The fact that this was only a 1 in 16
random chance, and even less likely if teams played according to form, didn't stop the howls of outrage when 3rd and 4th were abruptly eliminated.
Quote from: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 04:18:14 AM
You're European. You're not used to finals series...
I think it was the rugby league rather than the AFL that got rid of the McIntyre system partially because of the year that 5th defeated 4th, 6th defeated 3rd, 7th defeated 2nd and 8th defeated 1st. The fact that this was only a 1 in 16 random chance, and even less likely if teams played according to form, didn't stop the howls of outrage when 3rd and 4th were abruptly eliminated.
I am sure I'll be fine with it and will get behind it if Geelong goes all the way 0:)
That imbalance still happens in England's Football Championship in some way.
1st (who gets a trophy) and 2nd are automatically promoted to the Premiership after the regular season of 46 (!!) games , then you get 2-leg semi-finals of 3rd v 6th an 4th v 5th, then the winners meet in a playoff final at Wembley, the winner of which gets promoted (and gets a trophy :laugh:). Therefore, on end of season form, the 6th could be promoted even though for argument's sake, they could have finished the regular season 15 pts behind the 3rd.
I enjoyed seeing my English team benefiting of this at Wembley 2 decades ago ( agreat day out !!) but in the mains, it still feels skewed, particularly after such a long season already.
It would make better sense of having a 2-leg play-off between the Championship's 3rd and the Premiership's 18th (the French league used to do that in up to the mid 80's, scrapped it then and brought it back last year).
Yeah, but why have "sense" when you can have drama and excitement? And more ticket sales?
I do, on the whole, like finals series myself, but then on the whole I don't have teams that I support in a one-eyed fashion such that I can't enjoy the outcomes.
I think I've mentioned before the sensational season where the top 7 teams on the ladder were very evenly matched, and Western Bulldogs won from 7th place. Truly a year to convince you of the potential of finals.
As for the whole Geelong thing, I don't want to get to the end of the season and discover that you've abandoned the sport because you didn't get your fairytale. Traditionally you're supposed to keep coming back year after year hoping that THIS time it's going to finally work out. Like the work colleague who comes from a Melbourne-supporting family. He's not old enough to have ever seen a premiership...
Quote from: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 05:06:09 AM
Yeah, but why have "sense" when you can have drama and excitement? And more ticket sales?
I do, on the whole, like finals series myself, but then on the whole I don't have teams that I support in a one-eyed fashion such that I can't enjoy the outcomes.
I think I've mentioned before the sensational season where the top 7 teams on the ladder were very evenly matched, and Western Bulldogs won from 7th place. Truly a year to convince you of the potential of finals.
As for the whole Geelong thing, I don't want to get to the end of the season and discover that you've abandoned the sport because you didn't get your fairytale. Traditionally you're supposed to keep coming back year after year hoping that THIS time it's going to finally work out. Like the work colleague who comes from a Melbourne-supporting family. He's not old enough to have ever seen a premiership...
Oh, I am fully used to seasons for nothing in football as it is. It is just nice to "have" a team in AFL that is currently in the upper half, playing for something, it is a refreshing change :laugh: I don't see myself giving up at the end of the season either, whatever the result.
My BT sport subscription gets more viewing return on investment thanks to even Saint Kilda or Port Adelaide (let alone Geelong) than it does by the Champions League or even the French League 8) In neutral games, football can suffer the comparison quite heavily at times in terms of sporting "entertainment" (can't think of a better word right now). Even rugby union I can find dull at times now... and that's not something I'd have expected to write some months ago.
Also, why should I give up a game where "30 pts mean nothing" ;)
Stat seen on the screen display just before kick off :
"Cats have won 31 out of their last 23 home games" :laugh:
I mean, come on, how flipping good is that !! :P
Guess that makes it 32 out of 24 :laugh:
Never in doubt... :P
What a game, what a sport !!
I am convinced I would have still said that even with a 1-point defeat on the buzzer and a missed final kick. Thrilling stuff !
I confess I stopped watching, just wasn't in the right mood.
Judging by that scoreline, though, it would have been worth watching.
Quote from: Madiel on June 18, 2021, 08:34:47 PM
I confess I stopped watching, just wasn't in the right mood.
Judging by that scoreline, though, it would have been worth watching.
Fair point, it was a scrappy wobbly nervy affair, probably too much for a neutral though.
You only need to see that bit really 0:) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkKF6tPZsdg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkKF6tPZsdg)
The start of the music timed exactly with Chris Scott's celebration really cracks me up !!! ;D
It wasn't anything about the game (although the general lack of a crowd was less fun), it was more to do with my week.
31-1 down after Q1 v Brisbane...I'd normally convince myself it means nothing but so far Geelong has not turned up... :blank:
I confess to tipping against them. Partly because, after what happened in the last Brisbane v Geelong game, I thought Brisbane was likely to be in a bad mood. :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on June 24, 2021, 03:13:34 AM
I confess to tipping against them. Partly because, after what happened in the last Brisbane v Geelong game, I thought Brisbane was likely to be in a bad mood. :laugh:
Fair point, we nicked it by a whisker last time I think. Our winning streak is due to end at some point too...
After last week, I'll allow them a bye this week... looks like they're taking it too :laugh:
I assume Richmond threw a spanner in the betting works ? :o
Any thoughts on the ladder ? it looks...interesting. 12 pts clear from 8th doesn't really feel like that much right now :-X
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 28, 2021, 03:25:09 AM
I assume Richmond threw a spanner in the betting works ? :o
Yes, but I was quite bad enough without them. It's my brother-in-law who is suffering the greater trauma. We were actually at the game where Richmond had set the previous record low in our lifetime, so now we don't even have that... :laugh:
Quote
Any thoughts on the ladder ? it looks...interesting. 12 pts clear from 8th doesn't really feel like that much right now :-X
3 wins is a fair margin at this stage. To be honest what strikes me is the clear gap between the top 5 and the rest. It's of course possible for someone to have a surge in form, but you'd expect the premier to come from that pack of 5. Sportsbet still apparently believes that Richmond and West Coast have potential, but they don't have good odds for anyone
outside the top 8 and I don't think you'd find many commentators who would have a different opinion.
Quote from: Madiel on June 28, 2021, 03:47:20 AM
Yes, but I was quite bad enough without them. It's my brother-in-law who is suffering the greater trauma. We were actually at the game where Richmond had set the previous record low in our lifetime, so now we don't even have that... :laugh:
A memorable evening taken away, how harsh :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on June 28, 2021, 03:47:20 AM
3 wins is a fair margin at this stage. To be honest what strikes me is the clear gap between the top 5 and the rest. It's of course possible for someone to have a surge in form, but you'd expect the premier to come from that pack of 5. Sportsbet still apparently believes that Richmond and West Coast have potential, but they don't have good odds for anyone outside the top 8 and I don't think you'd find many commentators who would have a different opinion.
I was going to say Geelong's fixtures don't look that bad for the remaining 8 games (Only Richmond in 3 games time then Melbourne for the last game) and the rest looks accessible but you never know really. Looking more closely, 5 of those teams coming up are currently 9th-13th, so they'll be up to a good fight anyway. Good stuff !!
Quote from: Holden on May 01, 2021, 03:17:48 AM
Gold Coast had another win.
And a great gritty one just now vs Richmond, Holden. Nice one !
one downside, Essendon will be fired up against Geelong tomorrow as a win means they could be in 8th spot instead of Richmond :-X
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 01, 2021, 04:03:32 AM
And a great gritty one just now vs Richmond, Holden. Nice one !
Whaaaat??!!
Hell's bells. What has happened to Richmond?
And no, no-one in the office tipping picked Gold Coast.
Quote from: Madiel on July 01, 2021, 04:16:45 AM
Whaaaat??!!
Hell's bells. What has happened to Richmond?
And no, no-one in the office tipping picked Gold Coast.
It opens it all up doesn't it...
Quote from: Madiel on July 01, 2021, 04:16:45 AM
Whaaaat??!!
Hell's bells. What has happened to Richmond?
And no, no-one in the office tipping picked Gold Coast.
Even I didn't tip them
Ugly win for Geelong at Carlton tonight, made only comfortable in late Q3 & Q4. That will do.
Listened to the second half on one of the radios on the AFL website (a local Geelong one, based on the commercial ads. I need to go on Princess way for expert advice on furniture apparently :laugh: ). It does make more sense now than a few weeks ago, now I know most of the Cat's names ;D
One downside, Rohan got injured. With Cameron already missing, it could be a tough one with Fremantle and Richmond coming next.
Even the Geelong commentators couldn't stop laughing about this one :
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1413773124986818561 (https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1413773124986818561)
:laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 10, 2021, 02:14:42 AM
Even the Geelong commentators couldn't stop laughing about this one :
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1413773124986818561 (https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1413773124986818561)
:laugh:
Oh dear. :laugh:
I officially do not understand this year's competition.
wow, another defeat by Richmond ???
oh that timeline in Q4 !! it's nearly worthy of an English batting collapse :laugh:
Quick count: 16 defeats in the last 40 games by the top 8 teams. Lack of consistency indeed.
Quote from: Madiel on July 11, 2021, 01:11:47 AM
I officially do not understand this year's competition.
you were saying ? :laugh:
North Melbourne has scored 6 more points than Richmond in their last 5 games... :-X
Oh good grief!
I know this won't last but hey-ho...
TOP OF THE LADDER !!! 8)
A strong good win today.
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 15, 2021, 04:51:29 AM
I know this won't last but hey-ho...
TOP OF THE LADDER !!! 8)
A strong good win today.
I wasn't following, busy listening to Shostakovich instead. ;D But yes, that win gives Geelong a percentage boost.
The scheduling of the rest of the round is in a bit of chaos as Victoria is going into lockdown again. Not nearly as many COVID cases as New South Wales but the Victorian government is considerably less keen to take a chance.
Quote from: Madiel on July 15, 2021, 05:05:22 AM
I wasn't following, busy listening to Shostakovich instead. ;D But yes, that win gives Geelong a percentage boost.
The scheduling of the rest of the round is in a bit of chaos as Victoria is going into lockdown again. Not nearly as many COVID cases as New South Wales but the Victorian government is considerably less keen to take a chance.
indeed, we'll take it. Now for an early Christmas, I just would kindly ask Holden's team to do an upset against the Bulldogs. That'd be nice 0:)
I obviously don't look at all the details of the fixtures or news on this matter but from what I have glimpsed on the AFL site, they sure don't mess about in changing to empty stadiums or shifting the games and chartering teams around.
No, they do it very quickly, but I would think it's still quite disruptive to preparations. Geelong already went through one of the more spectacular versions where they ended up spending hours at the ground and sleeping under tables etc.
Well I won this week's tipping! ;D
Though the results didn't stop being bizarre. A draw between Melbourne and Hawthorn?? And the GWS v Sydney game might have a final scoreline you expect, but GWS lost after establishing a 5-goal lead in the first quarter.
Quote from: Madiel on July 18, 2021, 03:50:03 AM
Well I won this week's tipping! ;D
Though the results didn't stop being bizarre. A draw between Melbourne and Hawthorn?? And the GWS v Sydney game might have a final scoreline you expect, but GWS lost after establishing a 5-goal lead in the first quarter.
Congrats ;D
It's just all over the shop. Essendon in 8th now after their diabolical start of season, and 6 teams in contention for that last spot.
Exciting stuff ahead 8)
Can they make another smidgen of an effort on the timing on Geelong-Richmond Sunday at all please ?
6.20am is better than 4.30am but it is a Sunday morning...another hour would be acceptable :P
(this is obviously tongue in cheek, glad at least there is a game given the circumstances :) )
This weekends round is actually a combination of some of the games from rounds 19 & 20 with the others from those two rounds to hopefully be played next week. All this is covid related of course with parts of Melbourne in lockdown.
guess who got up at 6.20am to watch a game of AFL on a Sunday... :blank:
Nevermind that Olympics stuff...
I'd rather watch the face of the Richmond coach gets increasingly irate as the score ticks along... >:D
Note to self: 41 pts at H-T means nothing 0:)
That ladder looks sweet... 8)
Woke up at half time so I missed the Cats being at -31...they like to make it hard for themselves :-X
Next week's final game against Melbourne could be interesting. It seems Port Adelaide is the team to avoid right in week one of the play offs...
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 14, 2021, 02:30:12 AM
That ladder looks sweet... 8)
Woke up at half time so I missed the Cats being at -31...they like to make it hard for themselves :-X
Next week's final game against Melbourne could be interesting. It seems Port Adelaide is the team to avoid right in week one of the play offs...
Port Adelaide has failed to beat any of the other contenders. It beats all the lower teams, but in the big matches it falls over.
My tipping last week was completely chaotic. This week is looking marginally better, but it would really help if someone could explain what happened to the Western Bulldogs lately.
Quote from: Madiel on August 14, 2021, 03:49:08 AM
Port Adelaide has failed to beat any of the other contenders. It beats all the lower teams, but in the big matches it falls over.
My tipping last week was completely chaotic. This week is looking marginally better, but it would really help if someone could explain what happened to the Western Bulldogs lately.
Bad timing to have a slump...and they have lost Josh Bruce as well.
Just 1 behind in Q4 today, it's incredible.
Quote from: Madiel on August 14, 2021, 03:49:08 AM
it would really help if someone could explain what happened to the Western Bulldogs lately.
I guess you could say that again today !! What the hell... What a timing for PA to beat a top 4 team...
So if I have got this right, we are guaranteed a second chance game in any case. If we lose tomorrow against Melbourne, we stay third we play at Port Adelaide in the 2nd Qualifying final. If we win, we finish top and we play at home against either Bulldogs or Lions in the 1st Qualifying Final. If we draw, we play Melbourne again in the 2nd Qualifying Final. Does that sound right ? I assume the Swans need to big a difference swing to reach 4th, with needing Brisbane to lose as well. Not even sure which option is good or bad anymore, just happy to be there ;D
ps: I am here for absolutely anybody tomorrow between 10am and 1pm 8)
pps: If, by sheer accident, luck or simply talented timing, Geelong finishes top tomorrow, please send my best regards to your sister :laugh: >:D
ppps: I love this sport :)
Yes, you're right that Geelong is guaranteed a top 4 spot. You already were. The question is whether they can get a home ground advantage for the finals (subject of course to all the wild things happening with Covid, though really it's only Sydney that is in truly uncharted territory).
As for tonight... I tipped Port Adelaide to win, with a margin of 5 points. I was absolutely on tenterhooks towards the end, and I was panicking in the last 10 seconds!!
I haven't watched many games this year truth be told, but when I saw the draw for this week I knew I'd be watching the top 4 four teams playing each other. It's kind of amazing that's how the year has panned out. Melbourne didn't even make the finals last year.
Quote from: Madiel on August 20, 2021, 05:27:03 AM
As for tonight... I tipped Port Adelaide to win, with a margin of 5 points. I was absolutely on tenterhooks towards the end, and I was panicking in the last 10 seconds!!
I can imagine the relief seeing that last kick being handed behind !
Great tipping shout.
And yet... I've just found out I wasn't closest on the margin! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on August 20, 2021, 06:49:39 AM
And yet... I've just found out I wasn't closest on the margin! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
oh this changes everything...
I'll downgrade you from Great Tipping Shout to Good Effort then :laugh:
It looks like Geelong v Melbourne isn't on TV here. Subscription only.
Bugger that. Unless streaming from the AFL website is a possibility.
Quote from: Madiel on August 20, 2021, 03:34:37 PM
It looks like Geelong v Melbourne isn't on TV here. Subscription only.
Bugger that. Unless streaming from the AFL website is a possibility.
I think you can do it via the AFL app.
Quote from: Holden on August 20, 2021, 10:35:44 PM
I think you can do it via the AFL app.
Looks like it's the same as the website - radio access, not video. The website has plenty of little clips judging by the Brisbane/West Coast match, but not full broadcast. For the matches not on the 7 network, it's all about watching on Kayo. I hated Kayo when I tried it and I'm not signing up again for one match.
The biggest problem is that, if you're in NSW/ACT, the deal is they show you matches involving Sydney or GWS every week no matter what. So guess what? Instead of 1st vs 2nd I can watch GWS play Carlton. Yay. :-X
Looks like the AFL website scrapped the live pass options at the start of this season.
On the website now, you only get highlights videos of 5-7 minutes on the day of the game itself. Then, at some point on the next day, they then upload the four full quarters of each game under Matches > Match videos > Match replays. This is how I have caught up whatever game that wasn't on BT sport over here.
A search for Aussie rules free streaming might give you alternatives 0:)
Oh well. By tomorrow I'll be watching premier league highlights instead...
Brisbane pipped the Bulldogs to fourth spot then...
The % difference between them is only made up by 7 points more or so scored over the season :o
8 unanswered goals in Q2...
I won't get carried away... nope...
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 02:42:50 AM
8 unanswered goals in Q2...
I won't get carried away... nope...
Oh go on, get carried away.
I love how quickly you've learned the way that leads can evaporate, but now I feel like you think they evaporate in every game. :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on August 21, 2021, 02:59:36 AM
Oh go on, get carried away.
I love how quickly you've learned the way that leads can evaporate, but now I feel like you think they evaporate in every game. :laugh:
oh I am buzzing right now but you are actually right on your last point ;D
I still find it "difficult" to work out when Geelong is actually in control (more or less) of a game, even with a +20 or a +30. A couple of missed kicks or marks and the game can turn on its head quickly. On average, it's what, one goal every minute and a half or two minutes in a game ? So, I only relax when there is only 5-6 minutes to go :laugh:
6 in a row for Melbourne...
case in point... :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 21, 2021, 03:48:25 AM
6 in a row for Melbourne...
case in point... :laugh:
Oh goodness. Just looked at the score (after finishing Dvorak's 1st symphony). Very tight.
oh my days....
Geelong just crumbled...
Oh. My. God.
I was listening to the radio feed for the last few minutes.
The entire season coming down to a kick after the siren. Incredible.
Sorry, Olivier, but that's just amazing even though it didn't go your way.
There's no room for complaint really. We saw Rohan score one after the siren some weeks ago in a reverse situation. One has to accept it can go the other way sometime.
Also I would have bitten your hand off for that third spot a few months ago to be fair.
My new motto: 44 points means nothing :laugh:
I'll console myself by thinking that it might be slightly better to face Port A instead of the Lions, but it'll be a tough one to bounce back mentally from today. Maybe the second chance will come in handy.
What a sport, mate. What a sport.
My Melbourne-supporting friend/colleague claims that's the first time Melbourne have won with a kick after the siren in 124 years, ie since the start of the competition.
Quote from: Madiel on August 21, 2021, 04:31:14 AM
My Melbourne-supporting friend/colleague claims that's the first time Melbourne have won with a kick after the siren in 124 years, ie since the start of the competition.
Ok we'll let him/her have that one ;)
It's not as if they have won the flag anyway >:D :P
and so starts the business end today... 8)
Not going to lie...
i'm a bit nervous ???
29 pts down means nothing...
until it does :blank:
Somehow I knew you'd be here...
We are being outplayed, outclassed, outpaced, annihilated (to put it mildly).
Well, Brisbane v Western Bulldogs was completely gripping.
Sitting on a beach in Brittany France has had me side-tracked AFL-wise 0:) with no access to BT sport, I nearly missed following the Cats timeline yesterday. Proper service will resume next weekend for the preliminary finals 8)
Might stream this weekends games later if it rains :laugh:
Minus 80 pts means nothing something...
it means that the season is over in my biased format ;D
There was no contest really.
Now I can enjoy the 2 remaining games in a neutral way.
Very happy of my maiden AFL viewing season in any case :)
Immediately the debates have started about whether the Geelong team are too old, why do they keep getting this far yet no further, etc.
Meanwhile they're not the only team that Melbourne has overpowered. But it was pretty comprehensive. And heck, Melbourne haven't actually won a premiership in my lifetime.
Quote from: Madiel on September 10, 2021, 02:39:09 PM
Immediately the debates have started about whether the Geelong team are too old, why do they keep getting this far yet no further, etc.
Meanwhile they're not the only team that Melbourne has overpowered. But it was pretty comprehensive.
I understood over the season that Geelong's style was slower paced anyway and based on gradually building the phases but we too often got outplayed by full speed passing and not just yesterday.
QuoteAnd heck, Melbourne haven't actually won a premiership in my lifetime.
Well that's long. :P
Looks like the Bulldogs are back all guns blazing (based on the 1st half). That should be a cracker of a final. Is it next week or in a fortnight ?
A fortnight, it's scheduled for the 25th.
EDIT: And it looks like it's going to be the match-up a lot of neutrals wanted... only it'll be in Perth!
Quote from: Madiel on September 11, 2021, 03:44:31 AM
A fortnight, it's scheduled for the 25th.
EDIT: And it looks like it's going to be the match-up a lot of neutrals wanted... only it'll be in Perth!
ok thank you.
That's one I'll get up for, whatever time it will be up here :)
1 minute to the siren 8)
Enjoy the final, guys !
It was kind of amazing. You know all about momentum swings in AFL. That was a big one!
Quote from: Madiel on September 25, 2021, 05:10:11 AM
It was kind of amazing. You know all about momentum swings in AFL. That was a big one!
Quite !
An awesome game to wrap up the season, with a very worthy winner indeed.
I have had a cracking maiden season as a "supporter", I think I just might be back in March ;)
How many sleeps left to go now !??!
Do they need that much rest ??!!
It's getting a bit of a long wait now :blank:
;D
Oh shush. It's Premier League season. :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on November 08, 2021, 02:08:02 AM
Oh shush. It's Premier League season. :laugh:
It's boring though...
(Come on you Gunners! 0:) )
19th March *sigh* :(
Tangentially, I am finding that watching men in whites, down under, hitting a pink ball around with a stick is not, of late, the entirely satisfying alternative it should be or I was hoping it would be :blank: :P
Bumpity bump !
It's back ! At last.
Can't wait for that siren tomorrow morning (tonight for the locals) :laugh:
Aargh. I have to put my tips in. I have no clue.
Oh good grief, and the first match I have to tip is the grand final replay??? Too much.
Did my tips an hour ago and basically went with the status with the Demons to beat the Doggies. my other picks are
Richmond
St Kilda (the Pies always manage to bite me on the ass if I don't pick them then don't win when I do - no wonder I hate them
Geelong
Sydney (that might be close)
Brisbane
Hawthorn
Freeo (even though they are playing away)
Gold Coast - with my heart not my head
The number of times I've had a crap first round and it's really hard to make it up.
First game of the season and it is already high paced, topsy-turvy scoring and full of mullets.
Welcome back indeed! 8)
How are my geriatric Cats supposed to cope with such a pace already ???
Well my tipping record for the season is currently 100%, so that's nice.
I think the really big question for this season is... will Olivier succeed in increasing the AFL supporter base in his local area? ;D
One for one so far but at 22 points down it wasn't looking promising.
As of tonight I am top of my office tipping competition.
If it just lasts until the end of the weekend...
I'm actually known for winning either the first or the last week of the season. Just not many in between!
Quote from: Madiel on March 16, 2022, 03:57:08 AM
I think the really big question for this season is... will Olivier succeed in increasing the AFL supporter base in his local area? ;D
Not really sure about that :laugh:
My partner walked in the living room first thing this morning when I already had Carlton-Richmond on. First reaction: "Has the Aussie Rules already restarted ?!? You'll be happy like a pig in the proverbial every weekend, won't you, now that the Six Nations are nearly over !!"
She hasn't realised yet she will now hear me humming the Geelong song every week until September as well...again ! :laugh:
PS: Quite a result for Carlton this morning/evening btw.
Quote from: Holden on March 16, 2022, 05:24:40 PM
One for one so far but at 22 points down it wasn't looking promising.
Did you get the Carlton one as well, Holden?
Quote from: Madiel on March 17, 2022, 03:21:14 AM
As of tonight I am top of my office tipping competition.
If it just lasts until the end of the weekend...
I'm actually known for winning either the first or the last week of the season. Just not many in between!
Quick, print and frame that office tipping table! That will be a lovely personal decoration in your new home! :laugh: :P
I'm now one from two and hoping for better results this weekend.
Geelong had quite a solid start to the season earlier on, with a nice % to boot. 4 for Hawkins and Stengle. We'll take that!
Half of the Essendon goals were scored by a rookie, who wasn't in the AFL at Christmas ! He is so rookie, the AFL hasn't got a picture for him yet ;D
Didn't follow that game, but after 4 games... still on top of the office tipping! The consequences of having faith in St Kilda have not been severe. Because both of the people who correctly tipped Collingwood then went on to wrongly tip Essendon.
Quote from: Madiel on March 19, 2022, 12:34:17 AM
Didn't follow that game, but after 4 games... still on top of the office tipping! The consequences of having faith in St Kilda have not been severe. Because both of the people who correctly tipped Collingwood then went on to wrongly tip Essendon.
That will teach them >:D :laugh:
Yup.
And I'm guaranteed to stay on top after Brisbane/Port Adelaide because every single person tipped Brisbane. Either we're all correct or all incorrect.
All correct, it is then 8)
that wouldn't be you celebrating on the baby grand, would it ? :laugh:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51N5uSaTVxL._AC_.jpg)
Given that I'm only ahead from pick-the-margin on the first match, no...
Geelong have a bigger focus than that "1000" Buddy Franklin business :laugh:
Go Cats! 8)
Not our day. It never felt like we ever were really in the game. Collingwood next week.
The aerial view of the pitch invasion on Franklin's 1,000th goal is quite a sight !! 8)
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1507320300068765696 (https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1507320300068765696)
1 from 2 after last night - sorry Papy, I backed the Swans. One mistake I might have made was assuming that the Eagles would be back closer to full strength only to read that they want the game postponed. I mean, Norths will be the easybeats this year but 14 players missing???? Even North Melbourne can take advantage of that.
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 25, 2022, 05:51:19 AM
Not our day. It never felt like we ever were really in the game. Collingwood next week.
The aerial view of the pitch invasion on Franklin's 1,000th goal is quite a sight !! 8)
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1507320300068765696 (https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1507320300068765696)
It was pretty insane, but then again he's only the 6th player in over a century so I guess it's a big occasion.
40-35 at halftime for Geelong after trailing from 39 minutes... What a dire messy half, jeez...
It looks like the Adelaide derby game yesterday was a cracker with a winning goal at the siren !
If you really feel like punching a "Pie", at least do it in their 50...not 15 meters from your own flippin' posts... >:(
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 02, 2022, 01:41:25 AM
It looks like the Adelaide derby game yesterday was a cracker with a winning goal at the siren !
I didn't watch it. I just discovered that my tipping had unexpectedly gone awry at the last minute. :laugh:
90-60 for Collingwood at Q3 (7 goals unanswered)
Cats now back at 90-78.
I am fuming and excited at the same time...
It's the hope that kills you... :laugh:
90-84....
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 02, 2022, 02:50:53 AM
90-84....
This is what I've just seen and decided to turn the TV on!
90-90
this sport will be the early death of me...
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 02, 2022, 02:54:46 AM
90-90
this sport will be the early death of me...
You have to love a sport where the score can go from 53-90 to 91-90. :laugh:
And from when Collingwood has their biggest lead... they scored 1 point and Geelong scored 51. Impressive.
I love this sport 8) :laugh:
They're saying that Geelong has only managed that big a final-quarter comeback 4 times in their entire history. Given they've been in the competition from the beginning in 1897, that's pretty darn memorable.
Wow, that is quite a stat indeed...and here I was thinking it was a completely rubbish first half... :-[
Another loss for Richmond against Saint Kilda... 10 unanswered goals, 64 consecutives point. Ouch. :o
Geelong - Brisbane 48-39 at HT. Nicely poised.
A real tit for tat goal scoring, a very good game to watch.
Some really good phases for the Cats.
I better put it on (underneath Szymanowski for now). Shouldn't entirely miss the battle of the French Feline teams. ;D
EDIT: And currently 54-57 is another reason to tune in.
Les Chatons de Geelong :laugh:
Well, it's going to be a heck of a last quarter. 8)
*makes cup of tea*
62-63 QT3 :-X
That will do very nicely, thank you 8)
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 08, 2022, 04:34:07 AM
That will do very nicely, thank you 8)
*checks tips*
Aargh. No it won't. And I agonised over this match.
it was a tough one to call, to be fair. I wasn't expecting the Cats to restrain them in that way for the whole game.
I was really impressed by the composure they showed to get the ball out, very cleanly via handballs.
...and this week it was utter rubbish >:( Apologies to the tippers :-[
"Good" job I couldn't sleep otherwise I would have been miffed to wake up at 6.20 on Easter Monday for this rubbish.
Back to a St John's passion... 0:)
I had several games in the tipping where I paused and thought... and got all of them wrong.
Happily, most other people in the tipping competition got most of the same ones wrong, but someone managed 9 out of 9!
Not watched any games this weekend, only got a glimpse of Geelong's highlights at North Melbourne. Anything to report ?
Is it me or does the top 5 seem to be really running early with it compared to last year, with St Kilda the surprise package this year?
Richmond, Western Bulldogs (and Port Adelaide) have really lost their regularity of last year. is it all down to Dustin Martin and Josh Bruce that have been missed?
I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention for various reasons.
A comfy win against GWS, hanging on just about on the right side of the ladder.
Stengle turns out to be a very valuable signing. Quite a few new faces coming through as well.
St Kilda next week, should be interesting.
Thank you Holden for beating the Swans earlier ;D
The GWS game was in Canberra of course.
There was a point in time where GWS would win all their Canberra games. Now the opposite is happening.
Even sweeter then :laugh:
Q1 14-27 at St Kilda.
Fast quarter, going to be a tight game, this!!
54-57...
Chris Scott is not amused, not that he looks that different when he is... ;D
66-57
Chris Scott is upgraded to "miffed"....
I hate this sport.... >:(
;D
LOL at that last one.
I had no opportunity to watch at all today. But I had decided to tip St Kilda and the new leader of the office competition had decided to tip Geelong, so big game for me.
Thoughts of the day:
- Waking up to a Geelong victory is always a nice way to start a weekend (particularly when my French football club will be relegated to their 2nd division tonight)
- That ladder from 5th onwards starts to look very tasty. ???
- Some of those special shirts with the Aboriginal decorations are flipping gorgeous! :)
- I must try to go and vote at my next local election in a budgy smuggler, like they've just done in Bondi, see how that goes 8)
I've got zero clue what's been going on in AFL today. We've been busy changing government.
EDIT: Okay, I'm 6 from 6 for the round, but to be honest that wasn't especially difficult in a lot of games.
I'm also 6 for 6 and am hoping that the Giants, Lions and Dockers win this afternoon. I need the double points but I suspect that other have the same picks as me.
Another Cats' win to wake up to, that'll do! 8)
On the other hand, that Freo timeline right now!! ??? Anyone tipped them?
Also lots of seagulls flying about inside the stadium. If the ball hits a seagull on the way to the goal, is it a behind ? just asking :blank:
More serious question please: what was the kerfuffle about right at the end of the Richmond game last night ? A Sydney player kicked the ball on purpose into the terraces, right on the siren and and it apparently should have been a 50m penalty for Richmond (and a clear possibility for them to level the score at the death). Why didn't the referee award that 50m penalty and only a free-kick from where the Sydney player kicked it out ? Was it deemed to be after the siren ?
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 28, 2022, 01:13:14 AM
More serious question please: what was the kerfuffle about right at the end of the Richmond game last night ? A Sydney player kicked the ball on purpose into the terraces, right on the siren and and it apparently should have been a 50m penalty for Richmond (and a clear possibility for them to level the score at the death). Why didn't the referee award that 50m penalty and only a free-kick from where the Sydney player kicked it out ? Was it deemed to be after the siren ?
If a free kick has been awarded, you're required to hand the ball over directly to the person awarded a free kick. If not, there's a 50 metre penalty.
However, the referee ruled that the player didn't
know that a free kick had been awarded, because it happened right at the same time as the siren going and the crowd cheering wildly. So therefore he wasn't penalised for non-compliance with handing the ball over.
EDIT: As for Fremantle, everyone knew they were good this year, but I don't think anyone believed they were THAT good. Quite the turnaround in kicking accuracy as well. First half, Melbourne scored 6.8 and Fremantles scored 2.7. Second half, Melbourne scored 1.6 and Fremantle 12.3!
Quote from: Madiel on May 28, 2022, 02:08:56 AM
If a free kick has been awarded, you're required to hand the ball over directly to the person awarded a free kick. If not, there's a 50 metre penalty.
However, the referee ruled that the player didn't know that a free kick had been awarded, because it happened right at the same time as the siren going and the crowd cheering wildly. So therefore he wasn't penalised for non-compliance with handing the ball over.
EDIT: As for Fremantle, everyone knew they were good this year, but I don't think anyone believed they were THAT good. Quite the turnaround in kicking accuracy as well. First half, Melbourne scored 6.8 and Fremantles scored 2.7. Second half, Melbourne scored 1.6 and Fremantle 12.3!
Thank you for the explanation, appreciate it.
That Fremantle spell was unreal. I think it was something like 37+ minutes without a Melbourne goal.
On a tangent, having NAA instead of MEL in the scoring banner threw me as well. I ended up googling Naarm and reading about Sir Doug Nicholls as well. That sport is entertaining AND educational ! ;D
G'day !!
(while we're 40 pts up that is! 8))
Oh good because I tipped you.
Quote from: Madiel on June 03, 2022, 02:58:52 AM
Oh good because I tipped you.
it got much closer, as expected, but Cats holding out for a key win. Nice one!
Even nicer because we have to pick the margin on the first game each week, and I said 15.
Edit: but someone else said 13 so I will lose to her in a tiebreaker, but not anyone else.
Because I couldn't decide I followed my usual habit of picking the home team so the bulldogs got the nod.
Yes, I've picked Freo!
The guy who invented byes has a lot to answer for... >:(
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 11, 2022, 01:30:38 AM
The guy who invented byes has a lot to answer for... >:(
Would you rather your team was all exhausted and injured?
Quote from: Madiel on June 11, 2022, 06:18:01 AM
Would you rather your team was all exhausted and injured?
Of course not. I should have infused my post with more irony ;)
Not having any AFL game is like waiting for an international break to be over and done with!
Quite a turn in results for Melbourne, isn't it...and with the Lions to play next!
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 15, 2022, 04:54:00 AM
Of course not. I should have infused my post with more irony ;)
Not having any AFL game is like waiting for an international break to be over and done with!
Quite a turn in results for Melbourne, isn't it...and with the Lions to play next!
Yes. In hindsight Melbourne might have had a relatively easy draw in the first part of the season, but it's been pretty startling to see them lose 3 in a row. Reminds me of Liverpool in the premier league season before last...
And yes, I did a little gasp when I saw that Melbourne's next opponent is Brisbane.
Another win under our belt yesterday at the Eagles, albeit much scrappier than it could have been.
Hawkins going past the 700 mark is another achievement. I have often heard he is one of the most unselfish kickers (they mentioned it again last night, I noticed it in past games too), always looking for better positioned team-mates. It'd be interesting to look at the number of his goal assists so to speak, how much higher he could be in the scoring ranks.
With us talking of byes, they gave a frightening stat in the game build-up. Geelong (and the Eagles) are two of the worst-performing teams after a bye. Before yesterday's game, Geelong had only won 3 out of the last 17 post-bye games. I rest my case about byes :laugh: :P
The features for this coming weekend are beyond tasty :
1st v 2nd (Lions / Dees)
3rd v 5th (Freo / Carlton)
4th v 6th (Cats / Tigers)
7th v 8th (Swans / Saints)
:o
Also had a proper jolt when I watched Weightman dislocating his elbow during the Bulldogs game!!
The Aussie broadcaster certainly didn't shy away from showing it...and again... then Weightman carried on as if nothing had happened a few minutes later ???
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 19, 2022, 01:38:50 AM
The features for this coming weekend are beyond tasty :
1st v 2nd (Lions / Dees)
3rd v 5th (Freo / Carlton)
4th v 6th (Cats / Tigers)
7th v 8th (Swans / Saints)
:o
Oh goodness I might have to commit to watching whichever ones are broadcast here. Sydney will be, but then they always insist on giving us GWS as well...
EDIT: Melbourne v Brisbane is broadcast so that's good. But not the other top 6 matches.
Quote from: Madiel on June 19, 2022, 01:57:56 AM
Oh goodness I might have to commit to watching whichever ones are broadcast here. Sydney will be, but then they always insist on giving us GWS as well...
EDIT: Melbourne v Brisbane is broadcast so that's good. But not the other top 6 matches.
BT Sport follows whatever Channel 7 (I think) does (Melbourne Thursday & Swans on Sunday both a 10 am build-up. I am not getting up at 4.30am for Freo :blank:)
I'll have to settle for Geelong on catch up on the AFL website the day after the game.
Good luck to you and Holden for the pool/tipping. Rather you both than me !! :laugh:
Channel 7 does different things in different parts of the country. It believes we want to see the "local" teams (in my case, the 2 in Sydney).
Quote from: Madiel on June 19, 2022, 04:33:56 AM
Channel 7 does different things in different parts of the country. It believes we want to see the "local" teams (in my case, the 2 in Sydney).
Bad weekend as I only got two right but then again, the others in the comp did just as poorly.
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 01, 2021, 03:22:13 AM
Hold on a second !!
Why has no-one told me that the Brisbane Lions song was based on the French Anthem !! This changes everything ??? :o Is it too late to change allegiance again ? :laugh: Very gritty team they are, they gave Geelong a serious run for their money to the end in the last round and this time, they did manage to overtake Collingwood at the siren. Great stuff.
The Adelaide Crows song is based on a tune by Offenbach. It was also used for the US "Marines' Hymn", which is probably where the Crows first heard it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marines%27_Hymn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marines%27_Hymn)
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 19, 2022, 01:38:50 AM
Another win under our belt yesterday at the Eagles, albeit much scrappier than it could have been.
Hawkins going past the 700 mark is another achievement. I have often heard he is one of the most unselfish kickers (they mentioned it again last night, I noticed it in past games too), always looking for better positioned team-mates. It'd be interesting to look at the number of his goal assists so to speak, how much higher he could be in the scoring ranks.
With us talking of byes, they gave a frightening stat in the game build-up. Geelong (and the Eagles) are two of the worst-performing teams after a bye. Before yesterday's game, Geelong had only won 3 out of the last 17 post-bye games. I rest my case about byes :laugh: :P
The features for this coming weekend are beyond tasty :
1st v 2nd (Lions / Dees)
3rd v 5th (Freo / Carlton)
4th v 6th (Cats / Tigers)
7th v 8th (Swans / Saints)
:o
I need to come back to this to note that you have learned terms like "Dees" and "Freo". The Australian art of shortening words is being transmitted :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on June 19, 2022, 08:12:58 PM
I need to come back to this to note that you have learned terms like "Dees" and "Freo". The Australian art of shortening words is being transmitted :laugh:
That's the only way for me to try and keep up with JB, BT or Abbs ( 8) ) and their punditry gibberish :laugh:
Quote from: Holden on June 19, 2022, 02:14:10 PM
Bad weekend as I only got two right but then again, the others in the comp did just as poorly.
Actually I got three as did most others. Stevie, who leads the comp got 10/12 - bastard!
OH
MY
DAYS
??? 8) ;D 8) ;D
Listening to the last few minutes on the Aussie radio was excruciating..
Definitely one Cats game to watch on catch up tomorrow!!! 8)
(Edit: That Tom Stewart late high hit on the Richmond player is a disgrace though. If the shoe was on the other foot, we'd want him to be suspended for a while).
I couldn't see that one, but did see a brief end-of-game sequence (they showed it at quarter time during the Sydney v St Kilda game).
Unfortunately, correctly tipping Geelong wasn't that important for the office competition. All the leading people also tipped Geelong. The bigger issue is that I tipped Brisbane on Thursday...
EDIT: Also, Geelong is now 2nd on the ladder.
Quote from: Madiel on June 25, 2022, 02:20:17 AM
EDIT: Also, Geelong is now 2nd on the ladder.
All good as long as we don't collapse early in the finals.
(We need to bring Granny home, I've waited long enough :P 8) )
Wow, annihilated the Roos this morning. Nice one. Let's make it 7? wins in a row against the Dees next week >:D
I'll leave the tipping to both of you on this one :laugh:
The weekend before was a poor one for me and I really needed to get all nine correct to earn double points in a double points round - 72 points. Didn't happen.
I completely forgot Geelong played today...and we beat Melbourne. I know what I'll be watching tomorrow !!
Top of the ladder ! 8)
And I completely forgot to watch it. Darn.
What a tense game this morning :o
+34 at HT, - 6 at Q3, winning by two Hawkins goals at the end. Port Adelaide really bullied us around the ground in Q3, Charlie Dixon looked like a man possessed !!
Geelong showed great composure and resilience in Q4 to see this one out. 9 wins in a row and still top of the ladder. That'll do 8)
Yeah. I tipped Port Adelaide.
None of the other leaders of the office tipping did.
I am no longer the leader of the office tipping...
Quote from: Madiel on July 23, 2022, 04:00:19 AM
Yeah. I tipped Port Adelaide.
None of the other leaders of the office tipping did.
I am no longer the leader of the office tipping...
I find your lack of trust in Geelong somewhat disappointing...
>:D
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 23, 2022, 04:18:05 AM
I find your lack of trust in Geelong somewhat disappointing...
>:D
Hehe. It was in Adelaide and pretty much a must win game for Port. I thought they would be supercharged.
And now Melbourne has lost.
Another job well done this weekend 8)
10th win a row for Geelong and Collingwood too. The Swans are bouncing back up as well. Quite a nice feeling to remain top of a tight ladder like that.
What's the view in the Aussie media about the Cats' current general performance level ? Just waiting to see if they don't disappoint again in the finals ?
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 30, 2022, 04:24:23 AM
Another job well done this weekend 8)
10th win a row for Geelong and Collingwood too. The Swans are bouncing back up as well. Quite a nice feeling to remain top of a tight ladder like that.
What's the view in the Aussie media about the Cats' current general performance level ? Just waiting to see if they don't disappoint again in the finals ?
Guess who was the only person in the office tipping to get
BOTH of the first 2 games wrong. Collingwood still didn't crack. Sigh.
To be honest I don't pay enough attention to the AFL-obsessed parts of the media (read: Melbourne). The snippets I've heard certainly seem impressed with Geelong. How could you not be? Yes, some of those games have been against lesser teams but there's also some good solid victories there.
EDIT: Gee, you massacred them in the 3rd quarter! I'd seen that Geelong were behind, but I didn't realise most of the turnaround happened in one quarter.
Did Brisbane throw a spanner in your tipping works as well ? :blank: ;D
Geelong couldn't cope with the dogs' pace and constant pressure in Q1 & some of Q2 but they never seemed to panic and suddenly they turned the tables around and just crushed them at their own game. Quite a display.
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 31, 2022, 03:03:22 AM
Did Brisbane throw a spanner in your tipping works as well ? :blank: ;D
Yes. Did the other top contenders all tip Richmond? YES.
It's been a disaster of a round for me.
17.8 (110) to 10.5 (65) against St Kilda.
That'll do.
Ruthless.
I just watched Melbourne v Carlton.
The drama of this sport is amazing. 15 seconds left in a match that's been close for the whole 2 hours, in front of a packed screaming stadium, and...
Quote from: Madiel on August 13, 2022, 04:10:02 AM
I just watched Melbourne v Carlton.
The drama of this sport is amazing. 15 seconds left in a match that's been close for the whole 2 hours, in front of a packed screaming stadium, and...
And... The Dees salvage the remnants of your disastrous tipping ? :P :laugh:
Sorry to Holden for this morning's result. Only saw the first half, another Cats' confident display.
The tipping didn't matter because everyone tipped Melbourne. I could just be excited.
So you can !
I'll have to check out the highlights of this one tonight or tomorrow.
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 13, 2022, 05:08:29 AM
And... The Dees salvage the remnants of your disastrous tipping ? :P :laugh:
Sorry to Holden for this morning's result. Only saw the first half, another Cats' confident display.
Metricon Stadium is about a three minute drive from my local watering hole and there were some die hard Suns supporters in the bar yesterday arvo before heading off to the match plus a family all wearing Cats gear except for their little five year old girl.
So who did I back in the tipping? The head ruled the heart in this instance
Nice to have a relaxing end to the regular season :P
8 pts clear Minor Premiers, 13 wins in a row. onwards and upwards...hopefully
Had a further search online to my question of last year: How often does a minor premiership team actually wins the flag ?
That's much lower than I thought in recent times.
After a running spell from 84 to 89, where the team at the top of the ladder ended up winning the flag, only 10 teams have done it from 1990 to 2021 (Geelong x 1). 13 teams have finished runners-up (Geelong x 2). 8 teams have finished third (Geelong x 1).
Only 3 teams have won the flag since 2010 after being minor premiers
Tough one ahead.
:blank: :blank: 8)
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I won the week's tipping.
Which will drive everyone at work crazy because... I regularly win the last round of the year. Seriously, it's crazy. First round and last round. This year I won both of them.
And also it got me in a 3-way tie for 2nd place for the year. Which is a bit disappointing as I was leading by 3 points at one stage, and ended up losing by 4 points. But I was in 5th place a week ago so I'll take it.
EDIT: I feel very sorry for Carlton. A couple of agonisingly close losses and they're out.
Quote from: Madiel on August 21, 2022, 04:37:37 AM
I won the week's tipping.
Which will drive everyone at work crazy because... I regularly win the last round of the year. Seriously, it's crazy. First round and last round. This year I won both of them.
And also it got me in a 3-way tie for 2nd place for the year. Which is a bit disappointing as I was leading by 3 points at one stage, and ended up losing by 4 points. But I was in 5th place a week ago so I'll take it.
EDIT: I feel very sorry for Carlton. A couple of agonisingly close losses and they're out.
Congrats on the overall second place. Do you continue the tipping through the Finals as well?
Only saw the last 4 minutes of Carlton-Collingwood. That sport is an absolute killer, emotion-wise.
I am not sure how I feel about meeting Collingwood right from the off. A second chance might be handy. Still, in it to win it anyway 8)
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 21, 2022, 04:51:03 AM
Congrats on the overall second place. Do you continue the tipping through the Finals as well?
The office sometimes does this weird thing for finals where the AFL and rugby league get combined. But it's not part of our regular competition.
So I think I win some money... and actually come out ahead for the first time ever when you combine it with my weekly wins (5 this year??)
Quote from: Madiel on August 21, 2022, 04:59:21 AM
The office sometimes does this weird thing for finals where the AFL and rugby league get combined. But it's not part of our regular competition.
So I think I win some money... and actually come out ahead for the first time ever when you combine it with my weekly wins (5 this year??)
Even better!
Now if you invest the winnings, you could almost double or treble them by the time you decide on which composer, then which opus and then which recording you'd like to spend them on :laugh: ;)
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 21, 2022, 05:12:35 AM
Even better!
Now if you invest the winnings, you could almost double or treble them by the time you decide on which composer, then which opus and then which recording you'd like to spend them on :laugh: ;)
HEY!
Ô Captain, my Captain... 8) :P
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Nice to see Stengle being recognised as well among those 5 Cats in the All-Australian team.
Is it me or is the Richmond coach the angry type? I don't think he is sending a Christmas card to Lynch this year.. :blank:
What a game though !
I couldn't watch it until hours later, and was very tired, but yes, it was a fantastic game.
The next semifinal wasn't bad either!
Meanwhile, as my brother-in-law supports Richmond and my sister supports Sydney, the household mood is variable.
Here's to another good one.
Cameron is in the team.
Go Cats. Bounce !!!
I turned up at 7.20 am...
Geelong haven't the decency to yet... >:(
I miss Kardinia park... ;D
Why aren't we in Kardinia park... >:(
Thank fudge for Jezza...
(yes I am a bit uptight...) :blank:
Q1 9-23...
Not happy...
Can't be much worse a display though...
Can it ?
:(
Come on Chris Scott, give them a telling off...
(Oh, hello Abbey 0:) ;D )
Quote from: Madiel on September 02, 2022, 02:47:54 PM
Meanwhile, as my brother-in-law supports Richmond and my sister supports Sydney, the household mood is variable.
At this rate we'll join Richmond after losing to the Dockers as well.
Thank you Thomas....at last...
Have we actually made a mark yet ?
It's crisis time... :o
I have ran out of cookies...
I am going to have to hit the weetabix...
Oh Rohan...
Thank you for showing up...
Makes a change...
How do you expect to win a bounce against a 10 ft 3 bespectacled giant ?!?!
As seen on twitter:
"Death, Taxes...and Geelong bottling it in the Finals.."
That's my Geelong life now...
HT 31-32
pfftt....
Off for a power nap and some weetabix.
(Oh...Hello Abbey... 8) )
And here we go...again...
Chris Scott looks how I feel... :laugh:
This is rubbish...
and tense...
Thought of the day:
My life would be less stressful supporting North Melbourne...
Still hanging by, 39-41...
how ?
45-41
let's savour this tiny moment of sunshine...
Brad Close....
open goaaaal....
behind... ::)
46-47
Ain't no sunshine when Pies score...
46-53...
52-23...
i am running out of nails...
2 great kicks in a row to be fair, one each side...
Q3 52-59....
(https://i.imgflip.com/57h2fn.jpg)
(just in case you came here by accident through the recent post page, yes , it is still a classical music forum... :P )
53-65
hmmm...
why...
why do I put myself through this...
I am not even remotely Australian...
59-65
Thank you Jezza... Again!
giving too many marks away for chrissakes...
60-65
This game will be the death of me...
66-65...
Jesus wept...
I hope my cardiologist works on Saturdays...
I'll hunt him down the golf course if I have to...
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 20, 2022, 01:40:17 AM
Nice to have a relaxing end to the regular season :P
Those were the days...
66-71...
it means nothing...
72-71...
under 4 minutes to go...
mother of god....
Attendance 91,525
key stat.
you're welcome.
72-72
2'31 left
78-72
1'20
:blank:
They haven't, have they...
Oh yess they bl@@dy have !!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
78-72 final score
I'm dead.
8)
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never in doubt really :P :P
Dees or Lions next...
(hello Abbey ;D )
I love footy...
but good lord, I do need that fortnight to recover... ;D
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Quote from: Madiel on June 10, 2021, 05:06:02 AM
I note in passing that my sister is thoroughly unimpressed by your decision to select Geelong as the team you identify with. :laugh:
well, that could get interesting in the final weekend... :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 03, 2022, 12:15:07 AM
Thought of the day:
My life would be less stressful supporting North Melbourne...
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 03, 2022, 12:49:08 AM
why...
why do I put myself through this...
I am not even remotely Australian...
Because you are one of the rare non-Australians who has discovered how UTTERLY GRIPPING this sport is.
Honestly, the weekend has been astounding. Every one of the 4 matches.
Now I feel I have to apologise for not being here in real time to interact with the monologue. But it was still highly entertaining some hours later.
Quote from: Madiel on September 03, 2022, 07:49:28 AM
Because you are one of the rare non-Australians who has discovered how UTTERLY GRIPPING this sport is.
Honestly, the weekend has been astounding. Every one of the 4 matches.
Oh man, that was just bonkers!
Quote from: Madiel on September 03, 2022, 07:52:11 AM
Now I feel I have to apologise for not being here in real time to interact with the monologue. But it was still highly entertaining some hours later.
That's ok :laugh:
My partner was having a sleep & lie-in so I had to vent out and externalise somewhere. It had to be here. Swearing silently for over 2 hours is a tough ask. :laugh:
She actually watched the end of Q4 Dockers-Bulldogs. Now she understand why I get up early for this this sport.
Giving your opponent a 40-point head start always makes the fans more excited.
20 minutes to bounce... The nerves are kicking in ;D
Preliminary final Q1
26-12 to Geelong.
I'll take another 3 of those thank you.
HT 49-19 to the good but long way to go.
75 pts means nothing
0:)
Well, we're there 8) 8)
Please tell me it's not a 6am start next Saturday :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 16, 2022, 04:04:16 AM
75 pts means nothing
0:)
75 points was past the point I kept watching.
Not only because of the margin. I was watching a recording well after midnight after coming home from a performance of Rossini's Barber of Seville. But once the margin was over 50 points I started skipping and the margin never reduced.
Sometimes boring games have their benefits.
Quote from: Madiel on September 16, 2022, 02:28:29 PM
75 points was past the point I kept watching.
Not only because of the margin. I was watching a recording well after midnight after coming home from a performance of Rossini's Barber of Seville. But once the margin was over 50 points I started skipping and the margin never reduced.
Sometimes boring games have their benefits.
I have to say I enjoyed it :laugh: I was so chilled out I spent the second half prepping and cooking a boeuf bourguignon for the weekend, with the game on the phone by the stove 8)
Caught the second half of Swans v Pies this morning, that sure did get tense at the end! It should give us a good final hopefully.
How was the Barber ?
The Barber was pretty enjoyable. It's the kind of thing where the utter silliness of an opera plot is not a bug, it's a feature.
Quote from: Madiel on September 17, 2022, 01:44:56 PM
The Barber was pretty enjoyable. It's the kind of thing where the utter silliness of an opera plot is not a bug, it's a feature.
Good stuff!
Not so good: 5.30 am kick off on Sat... Gotta be kidding me :o :laugh: I'll be up...but still...
well this is tense...
It's silly o'clock here but, on the plus side, I missed Robbie Williams pre-GF show...
Hawkins 7 on the board.
G'day ! 8)
Hawkins 13-0
Nervy but slight Cats domination.
And the swans score 13-6
Blicavs 19-6.
Atta boy!
isaac Smith 25-6.
Good.
Good.
Isaac Smith 31-6.
Am I awake ? :o
Miers 32-6
they all count.
Close 38-6
Unreal.
keep'em coming boys.
Jezza 39-6.
Need some adjustment fella. :P
Zach Guthrie 40-6.
Ticking along.
They're scoring for us now.
QT 41-6.
Couldn't have dreamt a better start really.
Long way to go.
The Swans will wake up surely.
(Hello Abbey ;D )
Here we go, Q2. More of the same please.
Buddy 41-7...
I'm about half an hour behind real time so I won't be able to participate in this rolling narrative. But hi.
Edit: I might catch up a bit.
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 09:11:49 PM
I'm about half an hour behind real time so I won't be able to participate in this rolling narrative. But hi.
Edit: I might catch up a bit.
And good afternoon mate ! 8)
Stengle 47-7
Rohan 48-7
At least they are making the unholy hour worthwhile, for now. :laugh:
bloke in red. 49-13.
Lettiing the pessimism kick in >:(
Yes Thomas ! 8)
Swans are hanging in there...
is there a big game or something ?
Stengle 6
Hawkins 1
unreal.
Bit weird for me to see a game in full sunshine :laugh:
I would have bitten many hands off for that HT score.
but...
I know better now...
it means nothing :(
Ha. It doesn't mean nothing. Though the Swans definitely recovered in the 2nd quarter.
I think Geelong got the benefit of 2 or 3 rather interesting umpire decisions, though I'm not claiming that's the only reason they're a long way in front.
I just reached halftime.
Halftime gives me a chance to catch up my time delay a fair bit. Though I do quite enjoy G Flip. She's a fine drummer.
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:00:58 PM
Ha. It doesn't mean nothing. Though the Swans definitely recovered in the 2nd quarter.
I think Geelong got the benefit of 2 or 3 rather interesting umpire decisions, though I'm not claiming that's the only reason they're a long way in front.
I just reached halftime.
That seems to be a general beef on twitter against Geelong in all the games :laugh: There was an iffy 50 against Buddy I think and a a push on Hawkins that was bit soft maybe :P
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:04:06 PM
Halftime gives me a chance to catch up my time delay a fair bit. Though I do quite enjoy G Flip. She's a fine drummer.
That wasn't bad indeed.
Right, HT banana ingested.
Game on.
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 23, 2022, 10:07:17 PM
That seems to be a general beef on twitter against Geelong in all the games :laugh: There was an iffy 50 against Buddy I think and a a push on Hawkins that was bit soft maybe :P
The 50 yes. Also a holding the ball in 1st quarter where the Swans player kicked it as he was falling.
I am now less than 3 minutes behind reality.
As we were. 8)
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:09:37 PM
The 50 yes. Also a holding the ball in 1st quarter where the Swans player kicked it as he was falling.
I am now less than 3 minutes behind reality.
Reality feels nice today ;)
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 23, 2022, 10:11:52 PM
Reality feels nice today ;)
It's getting a little awful to watch for people who haven't randomly adopted Cats from the other side of the planet.
I just wanted an exciting game. Plus the Swans have sexier players.
sweet baby jesus...
I am now live. *waves*
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:13:27 PM
It's getting a little awful to watch for people who haven't randomly adopted Cats from the other side of the planet.
I just wanted an exciting game. Plus the Swans have sexier players.
Not the best game for the neutrals, I concede.
And it wasn't random, it was a wise choice (so far) :P
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:16:31 PM
I am now live. *waves*
Welcome home
*hi from the Northern bit*
8)
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:13:27 PM
Plus the Swans have sexier players.
;D
I'll take your word for it.
Abbey looked really lovely in pink 0:)
Oh, we've scored again 8)
For balance, we did let Buddy score his 1,000th goal against us way back when and they stopped the game for ages.
They owed us :P
one more for Stengle ;D
It's becoming a massacre. I'm only half watching while catching up on the forum.
Tempted to message condolences to my sister.
Something's wrong, Chris Scott looks absolutely chilled out :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
It's becoming a massacre. I'm only half watching while catching up on the forum.
It's an absolute annihilation. I expected the Cats to be strong and composed, on the back of those 15 wins, but not to see Sydney crumble like that.
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
Tempted to message condolences to my sister.
i'll wait FT to be sure.
Apparently the most points ever scores in a quarter is 106.
I'm not seeing it.
6.3 to 0.1 in Q3.
Good Lord :-[
The biggest ever deficit recovery from this point is 45 points. Just so you know. In over 120 years...
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:41:54 PM
The biggest ever deficit recovery from this point is 45 points. Just so you know. In over 120 years...
I remain ultra cautious till a minute to go ;)
The only remaining tension is who will win the Norm Smith Medal for best player.
Geelong fans cheering Buddy when he touches the ball :laugh:
( I am starting to enjoy this now :P )
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 10:53:24 PM
The only remaining tension is who will win the Norm Smith Medal for best player.
The jury is spoiled for choice
Selwoooooood !!
man, Hawkins is welling up already... :'(
Well I hope you planned to go have a nice breakfast.
I am not crying, you're crying... :'(
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 23, 2022, 11:08:17 PM
Selwoooooood !!
I think people forget there are actually 4 Selwood brothers who played, because this one has set truly astonishing records.
oh man, this is special.
i went back and dug up an old post of yours that stuck:
Quote from: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 05:06:09 AM
As for the whole Geelong thing, I don't want to get to the end of the season and discover that you've abandoned the sport because you didn't get your fairytale. Traditionally you're supposed to keep coming back year after year hoping that THIS time it's going to finally work out. Like the work colleague who comes from a Melbourne-supporting family. He's not old enough to have ever seen a premiership...
I know my luck this year ;)
I have found the perfect birthday/Christmas card for your sister :P
(My commiserations to her :-[)
You made me go back and look at posts from last season.
Ah yes. Geelong. Too old, too slow etc.
...turns out to be completely false.
The first Smith to win the Smith!
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 11:27:15 PM
You made me go back and look at posts from last season.
Ah yes. Geelong. Too old, too slow etc.
...turns out to be completely false.
they've turned it around nicely, haven't they.
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 11:27:54 PM
The first Smith to win the Smith!
spoiler :laugh: I stream about a minute behind.
I genuinely love the fact, again, that they get kids to hand out the medals. What a memory for them. :)
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 23, 2022, 11:33:00 PM
I genuinely love the fact, again, that they get kids to hand out the medals. What a memory for them. :)
Yes, it's an adorable tradition. The AFL really do seem very committed to juniors.
Chris Scott looks and feels vindicated.
Quote from: Madiel on September 23, 2022, 11:27:15 PM
You made me go back and look at posts from last season.
Ah yes. Geelong. Too old, too slow etc.
...turns out to be completely false.
Going back to this, bringing in Cameron last year and Stengle this year has made a huge difference but a lot of the existing players stepped up as well compared to last year.
This year was much more fast hand game based compared to last year's slow build ups by foot.
Well, that was fun and emotional.
On to next year.
Now do I stick with Geelong or move on to another team that hasn't won in a while ? :P
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 23, 2022, 11:58:42 PM
Well, that was fun and emotional.
On to next year.
Now do I stick with Geelong or move on to another team that hasn't won in a while ? :P
Brisbane's team song could tempt you.
But, go have that celebratory breakfast first!
Quote from: Madiel on September 24, 2022, 12:23:33 AM
But, go have that celebratory breakfast first!
I had an extra weetabix! :laugh: the breakfast of Premiers 8)
From the Geelong twitter account:
"Too old, too slow, too good 👴🏻🏆 The cup will look great down at the retirement home #Untameable"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdZwdoGaAAIFZxM?format=jpg&name=large)
:laugh:
Well, isn't this a thing of beauty... 8)
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Quote from: Papy Oli on September 24, 2022, 08:26:47 AM
From the Geelong twitter account:
"Too old, too slow, too good 👴🏻🏆 The cup will look great down at the retirement home #Untameable"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdZwdoGaAAIFZxM?format=jpg&name=large)
:laugh:
Lol. That's funny!
Twitter was trolling me earlier in the week.
In the Explore/For You area where you select some topics of choice (viral tweets, funny tweets, etc), Geelong came up as an option, which I selected. It worked for a day or two, appearing in that page as expected....then it disappeared.
Twitter always throws in a couple of suggested topics and when I got to the bottom of my selected topics, what did they decide to throw in ??
@%$@$@$ COLLINGWOOD !!! >:D
:laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on September 25, 2022, 01:43:00 AM
Lol. That's funny!
They've taken the mickey-taking to a whole other level now:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdjWbguaEAAJ-yY?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
and this:
https://www.geelongcats.com.au/video/1229210/-too-old-too-slow-too-good-celebration-day-2022?videoId=1229210&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1664170084001 (https://www.geelongcats.com.au/video/1229210/-too-old-too-slow-too-good-celebration-day-2022?videoId=1229210&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1664170084001)
:laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 25, 2022, 01:55:39 AM
Twitter was trolling me earlier in the week.
In the Explore/For You area where you select some topics of choice (viral tweets, funny tweets, etc), Geelong came up as an option, which I selected. It worked for a day or two, appearing in that page as expected....then it disappeared.
Twitter always throws in a couple of suggested topics and when I got to the bottom of my selected topics, what did they decide to throw in ??
@%$@$@$ COLLINGWOOD !!! >:D
:laugh:
Couldn't agree more about Collingwood
Quote from: Holden on September 26, 2022, 01:45:14 AM
Couldn't agree more about Collingwood
That Collingwood thing has popped up again despite hiding it. I am now officially with the rest of Australia disliking them (I am keeping it polite) >:(
I missed it yesterday, but Joel Selwood has announced his retirement.
I saw glimpses of it on twitter, what impressive stats he has ! Chris Scott was really struggling to hold back the tears during the press conference.
When asked if Selwood's retirement would release a large chunk of the salary cap, the Geelong press officer I assume said "we are not going there".
Scott interjected and said "I want to go there actually, I'm going rogue if you don't mind. Joel's departure will actually not release that much of a salary cap to be honest. With his experience and calibre, he could have taken the club to the cleaners salary-wise for many years and he never did. That's testament to the man and his attachment to the club." And Scott got a bit emotional again :)
Apparently Selwood got a standing ovation from all journalists at the end of the press conference, that's a nice touch.
Another nice story is his celebration with a Geelong water boy he spotted in the crowd after the grand final, brought him on the pitch, let him go wild with his medal. He even called the kid's mum from the kid's mobile to let her know he was fine, on the pitch and the team would take him back to the club safe and well themselves.
https://twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/1574191938479091712?t=3lazoyp1l_Ty_y28WHegdw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/1574191938479091712?t=3lazoyp1l_Ty_y28WHegdw&s=19)
Beyond that, he took that same kid as his guest to a medal ceremony yesterday or the day before as well.
Nice stories. Nice guy indeed.
Indeed, his reputation is pretty impeccable all around. He's achieved a remarkable amount in his career and he's been thought of highly as a person at the same time.
Quote from: Madiel on September 29, 2022, 03:50:42 AM
Indeed, his reputation is pretty impeccable all around. He's achieved a remarkable amount in his career and he's been thought of highly as a person at the same time.
Looks like I haven't picked a bad footy club after all 8)
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Essendon have appointed a new coach that doesn't half look like Chris Scott...
Wait.. He's called Brad...Scott...
Oh they're brothers... That explains it...
and also Twins... well, it makes sense. The more you know... :laugh:
(And double premiers with the Lions, nice one!)
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 29, 2022, 11:23:23 PM
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Essendon have appointed a new coach that doesn't half look like Chris Scott...
Wait.. He's called Brad...Scott...
Oh they're brothers... That explains it...
and also Twins... well, it makes sense. The more you know... :laugh:
(And double premiers with the Lions, nice one!)
Ha. Yeah. He's been away for a few years so you've missed the double act.
Apparently nicknamed the Kray Brothers at the time. I guess they were the caring and affectionate kind of players :laugh:
103 sleeps away !!! ;D ;D
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjFfId3VQAEhDcp?format=jpg&name=large)
Oh dear God. Wrong kind of football right now! :o ;D
Quote from: Madiel on December 04, 2022, 03:35:50 AMOh dear God. Wrong kind of football right now! :o ;D
bit early yes... there is an important 6-Nations tournament to fit in before that as well.. but I couldn't resist ;D
50 sleeps... ::)
...wait until the tennis is over, Melbourne isn't interested right now!
Melbourne needs to get a wiggle on... ;D
9 sleeps.........
;D
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 09, 2023, 12:36:54 AM9 sleeps.........
;D
Keep doing this so I remember to enter my tips.
It's one sleep less for the Thursday night game but it's Richmond, so we don't give a fig... ;D
Quote from: Madiel on March 09, 2023, 12:41:37 AMKeep doing this so I remember to enter my tips.
It's Tuesday mate, put your bets in! 8)
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 13, 2023, 02:14:27 PMIt's Tuesday mate, put your bets in! 8)
I guess I can start researching...
It's back...
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 16, 2023, 12:50:30 AMIt's back...
Sshhh. I'm watching Premier League. ;D
But I did remember my tips.
Quote from: Madiel on March 16, 2023, 01:40:10 AMSshhh. I'm watching Premier League. ;D
Not a proper sport, that... ::)
(C'mon Arsenal ;D 8) )
I've finally turned it on. Ooooh, it's close!
Well, that's a HECK of a way to start an entire season!
I gave up in Q3 to go food shopping ;D
A draw, very rare already, from the off...
Can't wait for tomorrow's game 8)
73-60 up...
at half time!!
I'm knackered... ;D
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 17, 2023, 01:57:31 AM73-60 up...
at half time!!
I'm knackered... ;D
I haven't been watching, but... that's a lot of points for half time!
Quote from: Madiel on March 17, 2023, 02:05:11 AMI haven't been watching, but... that's a lot of points for half time!
End to end stuff really. Collingwood has the slicker passing game of the two but Geelong has been more realistic in converting their chances to goals. Great tense opening game.
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 17, 2023, 02:31:30 AMEnd to end stuff really. Collingwood has the slicker passing game of the two but Geelong has been more realistic in converting their chances to goals. Great tense opening game.
I wouldn't say their conversions are realistic. 16-1 is in the realm of fantasy!
point taken I guess ;D
This game is unreal....
Shame for Howe though, that arm break is horrible. A sickening injury on an otherwise fantastic footy game...
99-93 at Q3.
Jesus wept...
it is slipping away...
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 17, 2023, 03:22:09 AMit is slipping away...
Yes. Well, to be fair when I was commenting on the 16-1 I was also thinking about how Collingwood was already scoring more often, and Collingwood's ratio wasn't BAD. So I did wonder whether Collingwood's scoring rate would eventually win out.
I tell you what though: I think BOTH of these teams are going to be pretty scary for the rest of the competition if they score like this.
And gosh, what crowds. 88 thousand last night and 86 thousand tonight. Melbourne is hungry for football.
Quote from: Madiel on March 17, 2023, 03:32:46 AMYes. Well, to be fair when I was commenting on the 16-1 I was also thinking about how Collingwood was already scoring more often, and Collingwood's ratio wasn't BAD. So I did wonder whether Collingwood's scoring rate would eventually win out.
I tell you what though: I think BOTH of these teams are going to be pretty scary for the rest of the competition if they score like this.
And gosh, what crowds. 88 thousand last night and 86 thousand tonight. Melbourne is hungry for football.
2 of the top 5 attendances of all time, they said!!
That timeline shows (again!) it's never over, isn't it? Geelong on top for 3 quarters and Collingwood running with it in Q4. the Pies were brilliant in their build up and passing and they were running rings around us in Q4. Credit to them.
Not the result hoped for but what a brilliant game.
2 of the top 5 for 1st round, specifically. But very high attendances in general.
Must have misundertsood in my disappointment ;)
Now, lie-in tomorrow or up for the Dogs and Dees? that's the question ;D
How did the tipping go in this 1st week,
@Madiel ?
Tricky I expect with a Brisbane loss and a North Melbourne win...and that opening draw ? ;D
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 19, 2023, 02:27:07 AMHow did the tipping go in this 1st week, @Madiel ?
Tricky I expect with a Brisbane loss and a North Melbourne win...and that opening draw ? ;D
Well the draw translated as a win for everybody. But no, it didn't go well. My tradition of winning the first week did not hold. So I'll just have to win the last one, but I hope to get a few others along the way.
What a really scrappy game this morning/evening.
44-36 down at HT. It should be much worse, Carlton builds up really well, we've been lucky their shooting hasn't been as precise. Geelong looks ragged. They have to do so much running around defensively that the whole team always seems to be stuck inside their own 50-70m and when they can counter attack, the midfield is empty and there's Hawkins on his own in the Carlton's 50 with 3 or 4 Blues around him. ???
1. I haven't been watching as yet.
2. No no no, don't muck up the tipping again this early!
Can a team's season be over at the end of March ?
Asking for a friend...
:-X
B@ll@cks....
I swear to God... That sport is going to be the death of me.
to top it all off, Carlton have a crap song....
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 23, 2023, 02:59:58 AMto top it all off, Carlton have a crap song....
Yeah, and I'm not sure I'd heard it for a while!
No I don't think that Geelong's season is over just yet. It's a tricky couple of rounds to begin with and it's not as if they've been thrashed.
Bit dark at the Gabba... ???
And the Dees nearly pulled a comeback from 40 down pre-powercut...
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/mar/24/experience-best-mullet-in-the-united-states (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/mar/24/experience-best-mullet-in-the-united-states)
He'd finish last in Australia.. ;D
Carlton (saw the last QT against GWS earlier) and Collingwood (Richmond were poor! ) confirming.
At least, some normality is returning: North Melbourne is losing again ;D
St Kilda is all guns blazing, straight from the off right now. Eric Bana (in the crowd) is happy.
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 01, 2023, 12:41:00 AMAt least, some normality is returning: North Melbourne is losing again ;D
No, this is not allowed NOW. Not after two weeks of misleading me and Hawthorn also looking hopeless.
I am not making good progress on the tipping ladder. The only consolation is that nobody else is doing much better. Every single person in the office has tipped Port Adelaide, and I did
consider tipping Adelaide because their local derbies often go against form. But did I actually follow through on this idea? No, I did not.
Quote from: Madiel on April 01, 2023, 03:21:25 AMNo, this is not allowed NOW. Not after two weeks of misleading me and Hawthorn also looking hopeless.
I am not making good progress on the tipping ladder. The only consolation is that nobody else is doing much better. Every single person in the office has tipped Port Adelaide, and I did consider tipping Adelaide because their local derbies often go against form. But did I actually follow through on this idea? No, I did not.
Long way to go but what a weird start to the season, eh... and tomorrow the Cats are playing
@Holden 's team for the bottom spot... jeez... :(
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 01, 2023, 03:40:32 AMLong way to go but what a weird start to the season, eh... and tomorrow the Cats are playing @Holden 's team for the bottom spot... jeez... :(
I think you'll be safe with this one.
Quote from: Holden on April 01, 2023, 02:33:12 PMI think you'll be safe with this one.
Oh man...Suns win by 19...this is dire.
Well done
@Holden Back to sleep :(
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 01, 2023, 10:41:17 PMOh man...Suns win by 19...this is dire.
Well done @Holden
Back to sleep :(
Oh wow.
Quote from: Madiel on April 01, 2023, 10:43:33 PMOh wow.
Quite. Just woke up to this result.
Going to be a long season. Ah well.
Swans v Port Adelaide for breakfast.
Might have to support the Swans in this instance, so that we don't lose touch with one more team... >:D
Tipping still going well ? ;D
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 08, 2023, 01:37:17 AMTipping still going well ? ;D
I haven't been paying attention today, but... I am currently at 2 out of 6 for the round. Aargh.
Quote from: Madiel on April 08, 2023, 04:36:05 AMI haven't been paying attention today, but... I am currently at 2 out of 6 for the round. Aargh.
You might want to see the highlights of Swans - Power. Sydney had a penalty to win it on the siren. It looked like going over but a PA defender somehow blocked it on the line !! The Sydney kicker didn't celebrate for long. ;D
I wake up and watch end of Q2 in bed: -9
I decide to get up to watch Q3: + 56
guess I am staying up... not that I am superstitious or anything.. ;D
65-0 in Q3, won by 82... That'll do! 8)
Up to 13th and a nice recovery on the % front to boot. We now have a higher % than the 6 teams above.
I'm looking at next week's matches and the current table and... I have no idea. For nearly every match I might as well throw darts if I can find some.
Quote from: Madiel on April 10, 2023, 12:14:28 AMI'm looking at next week's matches and the current table and... I have no idea. For nearly every match I might as well throw darts if I can find some.
8 of the top 10 meeting one another...good luck ;D
The Dees are hitting their stride but beyond that, God knows... I have not seen any of Kilda's or Essendon's games to judge. I have been impressed by some the phases' build up by Carlton & Collingwood.
so, yeah, good luck :P
Watch where you're going Jezza... ;D
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1645335426369200129 (https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1645335426369200129)
That could easily have been the silliest injury of the season...
That's hilarious!
Well, Adelaide gave Carlton a lesson this morning (yesterday for you)...
Quote from: Madiel on April 10, 2023, 12:14:28 AMI'm looking at next week's matches and the current table and... I have no idea. For nearly every match I might as well throw darts if I can find some.
I'm in exactly the same position and to back that up, Carlton lost to Adelaide last night. I just can't work it out.
Well I picked Adelaide and I think that might be the first round that I've got the first match correct. So I'm happy right now!
Tough one on the Suns
@Holden as you had control of the game at HT.
The continuing uncertainty of that sport keeps entertaining me ;D
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 14, 2023, 02:11:40 AMTough one on the Suns @Holden as you had control of the game at HT.
The continuing uncertainty of that sport keeps entertaining me ;D
While I could be wrong, when I see a team that has control at half time, like the Suns did and watch them gradually blow it as the game went on there can only be one cause - fitness. This is where the Cats have been so great in the past, coming from behind and I believe for the same reason being that they were fitter than the other team. And on another note I didn't back the Suns in the tipping.
Somehow I am 3 from 3 this week. It cannot possibly last.
Essendon confirming strongly against the Dees by the looks of it.
That ladder is starting to stretch now (we really need a good result against West Coast Eagles tomorrow to close up).
Power v Bulldogs is my only game on telly today. A draw would be nice ;D
Cody Weightman is back. I can never make my mind up whether if he is an excitable puppy or hyper on hard drugs ;D ;D
what a lovely Adelaide evening to be sat and harnessed on the roof, watching the game ;D
Quote from: Holden on April 14, 2023, 02:29:08 PMWhile I could be wrong, when I see a team that has control at half time, like the Suns did and watch them gradually blow it as the game went on there can only be one cause - fitness. This is where the Cats have been so great in the past, coming from behind and I believe for the same reason being that they were fitter than the other team. And on another note I didn't back the Suns in the tipping.
Weird one as Geelong was mostly slagged off for being too old (I obviously only have the last 2 to 3 years for reference, pardon my youthful ignorance ;D ). My visual impression was that, prior to last season, Geelong always looked much slower than other teams in the phases and build-up. Maybe this is where your fitness point would come into play, that they would have more in the tank when they got to Q3 or Q4?
Is it the case, that some teams (with experienced players, like Geelong) know to weather the storm, not to panic and stick to the game plan particularly when they are 30 or 40 points behind, knowing there is plenty of time to claw back the score and that at some point the opponents will likely tire or take their foot off the gas?
(A bit like now, in a broader way, there might have been a bit of premiership hangover but they can't have become a bad team overnight, so they're regrouping gradually and "trusting the process"... unless now is really the season too far...we'll soon find out.)
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 15, 2023, 02:15:02 AMWeird one as Geelong was mostly slagged off for being too old (I obviously only have the last 2 to 3 years for reference, pardon my youthful ignorance ;D ). My visual impression was that, prior to last season, Geelong always looked much slower than other teams in the phases and build-up. Maybe this is where your fitness point would come into play, that they would have more in the tank when they got to Q3 or Q4?
Is it the case, that some teams (with experienced players, like Geelong) know to weather the storm, not to panic and stick to the game plan particularly when they are 30 or 40 points behind, knowing there is plenty of time to claw back the score and that at some point the opponents will likely tire or take their foot off the gas?
(A bit like now, in a broader way, there might have been a bit of premiership hangover but they can't have become a bad team overnight, so they're regrouping gradually and "trusting the process"... unless now is really the season too far...we'll soon find out.)
Some interesting points. What I like about AFL compared to other football codes in Australia is the draft system. The idea behind it is to try and avoid having one or two teams dominate the competition year after year. Based on GF results from the last 30 years it appears to work quite well even though it is not perfect. A case in point is the Dees who were, for many seasons, the easy beats whose previous premiership was in 1964. Their day of glory came in 2021. If there was no draft they would probably still be waiting.
So there is hope yet for Saints fans who would like to see a repeat of 1966 (when it was the VFL). Also there is hope for the clubs that have never won a flag (GWS, Freo and the Suns) that they will eventually triumph.
Quote from: Holden on April 15, 2023, 02:36:41 PMSome interesting points. What I like about AFL compared to other football codes in Australia is the draft system. The idea behind it is to try and avoid having one or two teams dominate the competition year after year. Based on GF results from the last 30 years it appears to work quite well even though it is not perfect. A case in point is the Dees who were, for many seasons, the easy beats whose previous premiership was in 1964. Their day of glory came in 2021. If there was no draft they would probably still be waiting.
So there is hope yet for Saints fans who would like to see a repeat of 1966 (when it was the VFL). Also there is hope for the clubs that have never won a flag (GWS, Freo and the Suns) that they will eventually triumph.
I am not familiar with the intricacies of the draft system (I don't follow US sports either, where it is being used) but it makes sense for the general interest of the sport, particularly in a closed division, with no relegations into a lower league.
It all gets a bit confusing when they start swapping multiple draft picks (even 2-3 years ahead) as part of transfer deals etc... I read Geelong did that quite a bit. Doesn't that defeat the genuine purpose of it (unless said team is satisfied with some stability in their squad and can afford to give a miss to medium/lower picks?) ?
Good win for Geelong overnight, could have done without WCE fighting back in Q4. Still our % is nice enough for us to claw back some more spots as we go along. Sydney next week will be a real test of our improvement. Good to see Hawkins scoring again as well the new recruits (Bowes & Henry).
Sadly, Stengle's suspected broken wrist is a stinker. He is a key pocket rocket for us when on form.
Astonishingly I ended up tipping 8/9. We should have these difficult weeks that I complain about more often!
Quote from: Madiel on April 16, 2023, 02:52:55 AMAstonishingly I ended up tipping 8/9. We should have these difficult weeks that I complain about more often!
Nice one, which game tripped you?
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 16, 2023, 03:07:32 AMNice one, which game tripped you?
Melbourne v Essendon. And my memory is that's the one I debated a lot! Oh well.
I just noticed the top 4 are going to be playing each other next week, and they are all Melbourne teams. Expect some very enthusiastic crowds.
Quote from: Madiel on April 16, 2023, 03:18:55 AMI just noticed the top 4 are going to be playing each other next week, and they are all Melbourne teams. Expect some very enthusiastic crowds.
Tough calls. I have those games on BT sport at 6am on Sun and Tue, I'll pass thank you ;D
At least I have the Cats game at 10am on the Sat. That's perfect 8)
There's a Dees v Tigers as well.
Catching a glimpse of a flag unfurling... :-*
Oh Footy, What a Feeling 8) :P
On a separate point, I have just been set a new Aussie benchmark to aim for:
Trying to understand Warwick Cooper ;D ;D
(There's a short doc about him as Centurion on the AFL website)
69-34 HT.
That'll do.
130-37 FT win.
61-3 in the second half....
3...
THREE !!
;D ;D ;D
There's at least one positive for the Swans, they've conceded 3 points fewer than in the Grand Final.
I am not the kind to brag so I am willing to sing a lament song for your Swan sister,
@Madiel .
I could either go with Earth Wind & Fire's "Do you remember, the 24th night of September..." or Propellerheads ft. Shirley Bassey "Oh it's just a little bit of historyyyy repeaaaatiiiing"
;D ;D :P
One downside: Cameron Ling interviewing pitchside is really not the same as Abbey Holmes >:(
Good Suns win
@Holden ! That North Melbourne revival has fizzled out already...
Essendon for us next week, i.e. the meeting of the Scotts 8)
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 23, 2023, 02:08:01 AMGood Suns win @Holden ! That North Melbourne revival has fizzled out already...
Essendon for us next week, i.e. the meeting of the Scotts 8)
I vacillated over this one for my tipping but finally decided that if the Suns can beat some of the higher sides (no mean feat) then they should also take care of a rather shoddy Nth Melbourne. The Suns issue is consistency and until they fix this they will always be in the bottom half of the ladder.
I freaked out until I checked and I had in fact tipped Gold Coast. Phew.
Tigers leading the Dees...that's what we want (take the Dees % down, without Richmond catching us up).
Nevermind... >:(
Tipped Melbourne.
So did everyone else in the office. Sigh.
Quote from: Madiel on April 23, 2023, 07:11:11 PMI freaked out until I checked and I had in fact tipped Gold Coast. Phew.
It's my team and I did the same but only because I though they had a chance. I try to tip with my head and not my heart.
Only saw part of Q3 and the full Q4 but that was quite an exciting Anzac Day match ! ....and a loud one :o
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 25, 2023, 02:51:44 AMOnly saw part of Q3 and the full Q4 but that was quite an exciting Anzac Day match ! ....and a loud one :o
I completely failed to watch, which was very silly of me. The first time in a long time that Collingwood and Essendon both have big teams, so it must have been enormous.
The more I see about the Anzac Day game, the more I think should have watched it. Second-biggest crowd EVER for a regular season game (ie not the finals), and the only bigger one was in the 1950s.
No wonder it was loud.
Anzac day match (https://www.afl.com.au/video/912914/match-replay-collingwood-v-essendon?videoId=912914&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1682453400001&pageSize=50&tagNames=ProgramCategory%3AMatch%20Replays&references=AFL_COMPSEASON%3A52%2CAFL_ROUND%3A763)
Q3 starts at the 1 hour and 1 minute mark roughly.
The Collingwood win got me 8/9 for the round but so did many others in our tipping comp.
Cats by 28 (132-104). That made it worth getting up at 5.30am for the second half (watching the snooker semi-final until 1am didn't help though ??? ). A highly contested and high scoring game.
That ladder starts to look even tastier now. 10 teams within one win!
And Come on Suns, let's sink Richmond that little further >:D
Quote from: Papy Oli on April 29, 2023, 10:08:10 PMCats by 28 (132-104). That made it worth getting up at 5.30am for the second half (watching the snooker semi-final until 1am didn't help though ??? ). A highly contested and high scoring game.
That ladder starts to look even tastier now. 10 teams within one win!
And Come on Suns, let's sink Richmond that little further >:D
Because I'm well behind in the tipping and I also thought that the Suns would have a good chance I backed them (where everybody else didn't. Also it was a double points round.
Suns v Dees or Coronation build up ?
Both !! ;D
Another good win earlier on for us against Adelaide. We could do with a favour from your team now, Holden!
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 05, 2023, 11:41:36 PMSuns v Dees or Coronation build up ?
Both !! ;D
Another good win earlier on for us against Adelaide. We could do with a favour from your team now, Holden!
Unfortunately they're not that good despite the win last week
OMG, just tuned in live and it's level at 72 - 72
9 from 9 tipping. Ooooh yeah.
Quote from: Madiel on May 07, 2023, 02:42:22 AM9 from 9 tipping. Ooooh yeah.
Well done!
Port Adelaide v Essendon must have been a good one. Seems like Port made it harder for themselves with 20 behind.
Only catching up on the Cats' game (one half watched so far). It seems to have been a gritty win. All good before Richmond next week, the list of injuries is worrying though: De Koning, Stanley, Rohan, Bowes, Stengle... and now Dangerfield. Quite some key players out now.
The Suns gave the Dees a good go
@Holden , Shame they just fell short.
Quote from: Madiel on May 07, 2023, 02:42:22 AM9 from 9 tipping. Ooooh yeah.
.... and the same here. Got quite a surprise when I went into my local to check as this time I didn't take an image of my choices. It's taken me from middle of the pack to second on the ladder. Now, how do I maintain this???
Quote from: Holden on May 08, 2023, 12:42:46 PM.... and the same here. Got quite a surprise when I went into my local to check as this time I didn't take an image of my choices. It's taken me from middle of the pack to second on the ladder. Now, how do I maintain this???
I won the week but I actually didn't move AT ALL in the office competition. Mostly because a lot of people got 8/9.
Technically I caught up to 2 people but the site takes into account margins as well, and I've been mediocre at first game margins.
Any views on all that Swans/Collingwood kerfuffle please ?
Is it not ok to boo the opposing team? Even if one of their players is a legend of the game?
Has all the pushing and shoving gone out of hand, with all the elbowing in the ribs, etc ? Do you just attribute that to the culture of the game and part and parcel of putting pressure on the opponent? (that behaviour shocked me at first when I started to watch footy because you don't see it anywhere else, now I am used to it, given the roughness of the game. I don't know if it is a good thing or not...)
(I have my own view on Tom Papley already >:( , having seen his behaviour in a couple of games, including against the Cats - It is pre-watershed so I'll keep quiet ;D )
That injury list is a worry:
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN
Jack Bowes Calf Short term
Brad Close Suspension Round 10
Toby Conway Foot TBC
Patrick Dangerfield Hamstring Short term
Sam De Koning Face Test
Jack Henry Foot Medium term
Sam Menegola Knee Medium term
Gary Rohan Hamstring Short term
Rhys Stanley Eye socket Short term
Tyson Stengle Arm Short term
Updated: May 9, 2023
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 09, 2023, 01:11:02 AMAny views on all that Swans/Collingwood kerfuffle please ?
There is some horrible, horrible history here. If you know anything about what happened to Adam Goodes with booing, it was utterly abominable. And Lance Franklin is another indigenous player.
So no, the booing is not okay. It needs to stop. And furthermore Collingwood specifically needs to stop it, because they've been at the centre of this issue repeatedly.
Quote from: Madiel on May 09, 2023, 03:41:24 AMThere is some horrible, horrible history here. If you know anything about what happened to Adam Goodes with booing, it was utterly abominable. And Lance Franklin is another indigenous player.
So no, the booing is not okay. It needs to stop. And furthermore Collingwood specifically needs to stop it, because they've been at the centre of this issue repeatedly.
After I posted, I listened to the AFL daily podcast discussing the issue.
Whilst I was aware of Goode via a documentary I saw on my early footy days, I thought the booing this time was a more general issue on the fact that Buddy was a legendary player and should be shown respect at all times, even not booing if he was "misbehaving" on the pitch (like you might do, rightly or wrongly, for any random player committing a foul or a nasty move). To be honest, I hadn't considered the racial angle but with such precedent it makes sense now.
I couldn't see why punctual booing (e.g. if Papley elbows Daicos in the ribs) would be problematic but if it is in such a repeated, systematic, targeted fashion, like for Buddy, then I see why it is.
Thank you for the clarification. That makes sense why Collingwood and their captain called it out the following day.
Every code has a team that is widely hated and Collingwood is it for AFL. I'm not sure of the original reasons for this general enmity but it is definitely there.
Yes I don't think anyone has an issue with one off booing about a particular play (often about an umpiring decision or lack thereof). It's this thing about booing a person,just because of who it is, that's become an issue.
Quote from: Madiel on May 09, 2023, 03:54:16 PMYes I don't think anyone has an issue with one off booing about a particular play (often about an umpiring decision or lack thereof). It's this thing about booing a person,just because of who it is, that's become an issue.
Weirdly, The 2 people doing this podcast (Damien Barrett and I think a former WAFL player?) wanted ALL types of booing to be stopped, which I thought was a bit nonsensical.
On a more positive angle of this particular matter, I probably said that last year and the one before but some of those Indigenous guernseys are absolutely gorgeous (Dees, Hawks, Lions, Cats) 8)
https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1656164708075061249 (https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1656164708075061249)
Can it be Friday yet? There's the small matter of Cats v Tigers on BT Sport 8)
Wee bit nervous this morning ;D
Tigers are accurate, we aren't..... >:(
Yes. I'm always fascinated by the number of scoring shots versus the actual score. Often a team can redress the balance if they're consistently scoring, but not guaranteed they'll get there when the other team is doing BETTER than average.
18 behind at Q3.
Usually not much to worry about but we don't have our usual composure, with our key injured players and youngsters in play right now. Learning at the deep end if anything.
Quote from: Madiel on May 12, 2023, 03:15:08 AMYes. I'm always fascinated by the number of scoring shots versus the actual score. Often a team can redress the balance if they're consistently scoring, but not guaranteed they'll get there when the other team is doing BETTER than average.
Richmond started with a 6.0, that sure boosted their confidence. We have to hang in there...somehow.
oh well, so it goes sometimes...
Next week off to Freo.
at least,
@Holden will have a happier Friday ! 8)
Only one person in the office tipped Richmond. She was coming last overall so I think she can have that one.
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 12, 2023, 04:01:37 AMoh well, so it goes sometimes...
Next week off to Freo.
at least, @Holden will have a happier Friday ! 8)
A 50/50 Friday in that I backed both the Cats and the Suns. Your little hint earlier in the week that injury might play a part in the Cats result appears to have an element of insight.
Well, the Saints took quite a beating!! :o
I don't like daytime games with an orange footy....
Second very poor game on the trot for the Cats.
To be fair, Freo played a blinder with some very slick phases. Should have been much worse that 29 down. Tough apprenticeship for the kittens :P Man, we miss Papy Dangerfield in the middle... :(
How about North Melbourne losing the game to the Swans on a 50m penalty for a breach of interchange (!) with a minute to go ?!?!
Great Scott (the other one)!!
Essendon snapping the win by 1pt with 7 seconds to go... you've got to love that sport.
Seeing Damien Hardwick seething is a bonus ;D
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 20, 2023, 04:18:58 AMGreat Scott (the other one)!!
Essendon snapping the win by 1pt with 7 seconds to go... you've got to love that sport.
Seeing Damien Hardwick seething is a bonus ;D
I haven't been watching games this weekend, and there are now several score lines indicating that I definitely should have been watching!
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 20, 2023, 04:18:58 AMSeeing Damien Hardwick seething is a bonus ;D
Well, that's this little pleasure gone now... ???
aaarrrghhh... 3rd loss in a row for Geelong. Picked up during Q3 on AFL Nation radio, cats spent most of the time 20 points behind. Came back within 2 with 2 minutes to go. Lost by 7.
It is the hope that kills you.
(on the plus side, I know the names of the Cats players these days so I know what's happening on the radio compared to 2 years ago ;D )
This week is a mess in tipping. Maybe if I knew that GWS has now won at Geelong 3 times in a row I would've tipped differently. That's just crazy!
....and I would have backed the Suns if I'd realised they were playing in Darwin.
Upset after upset after upset this week.
thankfully, the Roos are still doing their bit :P
Quote from: Papy Oli on May 28, 2023, 03:23:16 AMUpset after upset after upset this week.
thankfully, the Roos are still doing their bit :P
I'll be interested to see the scores after this weeks tipping
I got 4, but the best anyone at work managed was 5.
It was the last 4 games that I got right. ;D
A much-needed and gutsy win this morning for Geelong 8)
(that cheers me up a fair bit after last night's French Football)
PS: hang in there, Suns, we could do with Port Adelaide to drop some points!!
Bombers v Roos is a cracking game at the minute...
93-93 with 5 minutes to go
99-99
3 minutes...
Come on Roos, hang in there...
105-99 for the Bombers at FT.
NM deserved better on that game.
That sport is bonkers... ;D
just looked at the fixtures for this weekend....
what the hell are
@Holden and I supposed to do this weekend ?!?! ;D ;D
Support Collingwood? *shrug*
Quote from: Madiel on June 07, 2023, 04:21:54 PMSupport Collingwood? *shrug*
Naah, you're all right... ;D
Hawthorn marking Buddy's 350th with some of his goals from way back when...Not too shabby that fella... ;)
(the goal action from 1'10 made me laugh. The face of the (Dees I assume ?) player chasing Buddy along the line is priceless. He so wants all this to be over!!
And scoring like *THAT* after *THAT* run too ?!?! Jesus.... ???
https://twitter.com/HawthornFC/status/1666694546456031235 (https://twitter.com/HawthornFC/status/1666694546456031235)
Hawks by 25...anyone got that ? ;D
and Crows by 97 at 3/4 time... :o
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 10, 2023, 12:43:32 AMHawks by 25...anyone got that ? ;D
One exceptionally steadfast Hawks fan in our office.
Quote from: Madiel on June 10, 2023, 03:40:58 AMOne exceptionally steadfast Hawks fan in our office.
Hope got him every week except today ;D He'll walk proudly into the office on Monday 8)
Tense game between Freo and Richmond right now.
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 10, 2023, 03:48:05 AMHe'll walk proudly into the office on Monday 8)
If he does, no-one will be there seeing it's a public holiday.
Melbourne v Collingwood on this Monday is always a big match, but now that both teams are near the top of the table it's huge.
And insanely tight right now.
Melbourne have taken it out.
False hopes in Q1 then Port came charging... No chance. We were poor after Q1.
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 15, 2023, 04:35:27 AMFalse hopes in Q1 then Port came charging... No chance. We were poor after Q1.
Oh, I forgot to watch even though I remembered to put my tips in.
I predicted a tightish Port Adelaide win. Partly right.
Based on Geelong's recent form I backed Port.
Quote from: Holden on June 15, 2023, 01:33:13 PMBased on Geelong's recent form I backed Port.
Port's form was a sufficient base with 10, now 11 on the trot ;D
Saw half of Lions v Swans. Really scrappy, with what felt like lots of poor kicking, marks intercept and stoppages.
bloody hell, If even the Suns start to win now.... ;D :P
Only 6 pts between the 5th and 12th! that's making things tasty for those top 8 spots now.
As for Geelong, another good gritty win on Friday against the Dees, with a good show from the youngsters.
As if we hadn't had enough injuries as it is (Dangerfield had only come back from injury last week that he is off again with a broken rib and punctured lung), we now have teammates injuring one another, with Rohan clattering Jezza and knocking him out cold. That impact picture is a sight.
(https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/a1f855801eb1f03d9adbf265a99d3372)
Now for the big debate, should Rohan be suspended for what is still a reckless intervention?? There's a Demon player behind Jezza that he tried to intercept and clashed with Cameron instead...
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 25, 2023, 01:57:16 AMbloody hell, If even the Suns start to win now.... ;D :P
Oh come on, nearly everyone at work picked them. They were playing Hawthorn - not very stiff competition.
Stiffer than West Coast though. It's been a while since scorelines like that have appeared in my feed.
Quote from: Madiel on June 25, 2023, 02:11:10 AMOh come on, nearly everyone at work picked them. They were playing Hawthorn - not very stiff competition.
Stiffer than West Coast though. It's been a while since scorelines like that have appeared in my feed.
I know but I don't like the Suns breathing down our necks like that :P
Re WCE, I think that's the first 200+ I have seen my AFL lifetime... All that for the Swans to get trashed next week against us...for the third time in a row >:D (watch me jinxing us now ;D )
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 25, 2023, 02:15:18 AMRe WCE, I think that's the first 200+ I have seen my AFL lifetime...
It's pretty rare. Apparently the last time was 12 years ago. And the winning margin of 171 points is the equal-4th-biggest in the history of the competition.
Quote from: Madiel on June 25, 2023, 02:19:49 AMIt's pretty rare. Apparently the last time was 12 years ago. And the winning margin of 171 points is the equal-4th-biggest in the history of the competition.
ok, quite a feat then...
The Suns stadium is just down the road (3 kms) from my local watering hole and we often get away supporters coming in for a couple before heading away to the match. Yesterdays Hawks fans didn't look or sound very confident yesterday.
Absolutely nothing to do with footy but it's Australian so it might as well go here.
It made me smile when I saw it a while back:
https://twitter.com/historyinmemes/status/1653277533960302594 (https://twitter.com/historyinmemes/status/1653277533960302594)
Ah yes. Aunty Jack.
Even on holiday they are flipping taunting me >:( ;D
IMG_20230627_190902259~3.jpg
Well, second draw of the season... 8)
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 30, 2023, 04:29:19 AMWell, second draw of the season... 8)
I'm glad Geelong rescued me from what was looking like a tipping error.
Quote from: Madiel on June 30, 2023, 03:39:43 PMI'm glad Geelong rescued me from what was looking like a tipping error.
We were lucky the Swans couldn't kick to save their lives...it should have been much worse...
From a more exciting game, this is quite a picture from Port's last winning kick on the siren yesterday:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fz80WXcaYAAYrmd?format=jpg&name=medium)
The referee in the middle tweeted, saying "Yup, that's me..." ;D
Can one of you guys have a quiet word with the powers that be down under, so that Cummins and Starc have an off day today ? Not necessarily like Nathan Lyon's but just generally off... :P :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 01, 2023, 10:53:27 PMWe were lucky the Swans couldn't kick to save their lives...it should have been much worse...
From a more exciting game, this is quite a picture from Port's last winning kick on the siren yesterday:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fz80WXcaYAAYrmd?format=jpg&name=medium)
The referee in the middle tweeted, saying "Yup, that's me..." ;D
Oh wow. I saw the close score for that game but didn't know anything about what happened. That's an amazing shot.
A large expected win at home against the Roos takes us back into Top 8, just (that's the fun bit).
here is the updated ladder.
For the not-so fun bit : Beside Fremantle, Geelong still has to play:
- Essendon (H)
- Brisbane (A)
- Port Adelaide (H)
- Collingwood (A)
- Saint Kilda (A)
- Western Bulldogs (H)
Yikes...That will be.. err... tasty :laugh:
@Holden Any views on the sacking of your coach this week?
On a side note, like the proverbial two buses turning up at the same time when you've been waiting for one for ages, in the space of a couple of weeks, I have seen 2 guys wearing AFL Jerseys while I was driving in our neck of the woods.
The first one had the Fremantle indigenous shirt. Two nights ago, stopping at a pedestrian crossing of a T junction, a jogger went past the car with a red and white shirt. By the time he had run past, I realised it was the Swans home shirt. I missed the trick to sing him the Geelong song as he jogged past. Damn it!! >:(
That said, today, we could do with a Swans win. That'd help us in case we beat Essendon Saturday.
Go Swans!
*Angel emoticon*
;D
12-0 down...
nvermind... :laugh:
78-76. 1 min and a bit to go.
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 13, 2023, 03:58:39 AM78-76. 1 min and a bit to go.
This is where I think I haven't been watching and wondering if my tipping is in jeopardy...
EDIT: Dammit.
A useful Swans win.
I found myself cheering (within reason) two goals by Tom Papley and I don't like the bloke.
I feel dirty. :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on July 13, 2023, 04:00:28 AMThis is where I think I haven't been watching and wondering if my tipping is in jeopardy...
EDIT: Dammit.
That timeline in Q4 though might be some relief :o
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4929 (https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4929)
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 13, 2023, 01:24:11 AM@Holden Any views on the sacking of your coach this week?
On a side note, like the proverbial two buses turning up at the same time when you've been waiting for one for ages, in the space of a couple of weeks, I have seen 2 guys wearing AFL Jerseys while I was driving in our neck of the woods.
The first one had the Fremantle indigenous shirt. Two nights ago, stopping at a pedestrian crossing of a T junction, a jogger went past the car with a red and white shirt. By the time he had run past, I realised it was the Swans home shirt. I missed the trick to sing him the Geelong song as he jogged past. Damn it!! >:(
I live close to Heritage Bank Stadium and the scuttle butt is that many of the players are not very happy with the sacking of Stewart Dew. (Expect a poor performance from the Suns this weekend). That said, a coach can only do so much and there is onus on the players to come up with the goods. To be blunt, performances have ranged from amazing to extremely mediocre and I would question the mindset of many of the team. The last few games have shown an alarming downward trend.
As if getting a tip wrong by 2 points wasn't bad enough, we have to make it 1 point the next night. Aargh.
Quote from: Madiel on July 14, 2023, 05:19:23 AMAs if getting a tip wrong by 2 points wasn't bad enough, we have to make it 1 point the next night. Aargh.
Not your week, is it...
(I daren't asking what you tipped for Geelong-Essendon)
Quote from: Holden on July 13, 2023, 01:43:48 PMI live close to Heritage Bank Stadium and the scuttle butt is that many of the players are not very happy with the sacking of Stewart Dew. (Expect a poor performance from the Suns this weekend). That said, a coach can only do so much and there is onus on the players to come up with the goods. To be blunt, performances have ranged from amazing to extremely mediocre and I would question the mindset of many of the team. The last few games have shown an alarming downward trend.
Well, you've beaten Saint Kilda and you're back in it again.
What the hell is happening, Port is getting trounced by Carlton as well !! :o
With the Dogs and saints losing, we really need to beat Essendon to overtake those three teams in one fell swoop and stay ahead of that big pack. That could be like 8 or 9 teams in 4 points roughly ? ???
Quote from: Madiel on July 14, 2023, 05:19:23 AMAs if getting a tip wrong by 2 points wasn't bad enough, we have to make it 1 point the next night. Aargh.
Did you get Port wrong by 50 pts as well ? :P :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 15, 2023, 01:19:42 AMDid you get Port wrong by 50 pts as well ? :P :laugh:
Yes, but so did enough other people in the office that I don't feel bad about it.
Quote from: Madiel on July 15, 2023, 01:29:31 AMYes, but so did enough other people in the office that I don't feel bad about it.
Good luck tipping Collingwood-Port next week. Port will want to erase today's result.
Q1
7.5 (47) - 0.1 (1).
I'll remain cautious but I'll take it ;)
Win by 77?
Up to 5th?
Don't mind if we do. 8)
Absolute rubbish for 3 quarters, 30+ behind ?
Wake up in Q4 ?
back to 12 down with 6 minutes to go ?
Losing by 11 with hope slowly killing you ?
Don't mind if it does... :laugh:
Carlton is in the mood against Collingwood... It is feisty :o
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 28, 2023, 04:03:51 AMCarlton is in the mood against Collingwood... It is feisty :o
Too busy watching round balls at the moment.
The good news in the office tipping is that hardly anyone saw that coming. But the Carlton - Collingwood rivalry is especially fierce.
hmmm, if we start losing at Kardinia Park, that doesn't bode well...
And we have Port next... :(
Quote from: Madiel on July 28, 2023, 05:58:00 AMThe Carlton - Collingwood rivalry is especially fierce.
So it seems... There were rougher kerfuffles than usual... ;D
GWS winning at the Bulldogs...
Brisbane 31 behind at Suns with 12 min to go...
what the hell is happening this weekend ?? :o
I am zero from 4 in tipping. The good news is, so is more then half the office competition.
Quote from: Madiel on July 29, 2023, 02:44:56 AMI am zero from 4 in tipping. The good news is, so is more then half the office competition.
At this rate, the Crows might not improve that either :P
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 29, 2023, 03:25:56 AMAt this rate, the Crows might not improve that either :P
I tipped the Crows. I know what happens in Adelaide derbies.
EDIT: And apparently, I'm the only person in the office who knows what happens in Adelaide derbies!
Quote from: Madiel on July 29, 2023, 04:37:54 AMI tipped the Crows. I know what happens in Adelaide derbies.
EDIT: And apparently, I'm the only person in the office who knows what happens in Adelaide derbies!
Well done!
That ladder looks quite pleasing 2 weekends ago. It is damn more frightening now when we have Port & Collingwood next. Not sure we deserve to be Top 8 either to be fair.
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 29, 2023, 04:45:10 AMThat ladder looks quite pleasing 2 weekends ago. It is damn more frightening now when we have Port & Collingwood next. Not sure we deserve to be Top 8 either to be fair.
I just want to know what the hell the GWS Giants are doing up there...
But also, for much of the season it hasn't really felt like the top 8 matters, because the top 4 have been comfortably clear of everyone else. The question is whether any of those 4 slip up at the wrong moments (including in finals).
GWS is on 7 in a row aren't they (the only team on 5 green W with Carlton at the moment? A good series a the right time. All the other teams around have been so inconsistent.
Even if you look at the Top 4's last 5 matches, there's 8 losses between them out of 20 games. Tiredness + Business end of the season as well?
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 29, 2023, 05:30:13 AMGWS is on 7 in a row aren't they (the only team on 5 green W with Carlton at the moment? A good series a the right time. All the other teams around have been so inconsistent.
Even if you look at the Top 4's last 5 matches, there's 8 losses between them out of 20 games. Tiredness + Business end of the season as well?
Yes, GWS is on 7 in a row which is why I tipped them. However, I didn't see those other upsets coming.
Quite sad to see a player like Buddy Franklin retiring in these conditions, with immediate effect from a season ending injury. He deserved better send off for sure.
I was lucky to see the Swans game live on BT Sport when he scored his 1,000th goal. That was quite something to watch. The aerial shot of the pitch invasion after the goal went in was a sight to behold.
It is quite a feat he's achieved when you take a step back and realise that scorers like Riewoldt and Hawkins are, like what, 300 goals behind him?...and they are no bad kickers either :o
The results last weekend will certainly make tipping the last four rounds quite interesting as it will cast a lot of doubt in many tipsters minds - myself included. In our comp at my local the top score was four out of nine. I managed three where the guy just above me only got one. However, the comp leader got four. I'm in third place but it's very tight.
Also there are some tasty match ups this weekend including:
Crows vs Suns (12 v 14)
Giants v Swans (6 v 10) - always hard to pick a derby
Saints v Carlton (5 v 7)
3/9 managed to move me up a spot in the office competition.
One person somehow got 6/9.
Talking of retirement, that's how to do it, Stuart Broad. 8)
Last ball batted for a six, last ball bowled taking the last Aussie wicket to win the test.
Just about well done to our Aussie Friends. You were damn lucky there was a downpour in Old Trafford to have that test rained off and drawn :P
/Interlude ;D
YYYYEEEEESSSSSS !!!!!
FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!! 8)
Probably best if I don't take my blood pressure right now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(pardon my French... :P )
Yesterday's game has not been as good an outcome, shall we say ::)
Top 8 hopes are hanging by a very thin thread now.
(
@Holden I read about your health scare in another thread. Have a good recovery, fella.)
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 11, 2023, 11:49:41 PMYesterday's game has not been as good an outcome, shall we say ::)
Top 8 hopes are hanging by a very thin thread now.
( @Holden I read about your health scare in another thread. Have a good recovery, fella.)
Thank you Papi
Well this is it then. Over for the Cats. Terrible season-long hangover from last year's premiership.
Never in it today, never really worthy of being in the top 8 either to be fair.
Some positives : Myers (beating the season record for assists), Atkins (rucking/tackling like crazy) and the youngsters hopefully using this season as a build-up of experience for the next one (Ollie Henry, Bowes, De Koenink have have had some good spells considering).
For the negatives: it's being said every year but maybe this is the season too far for Dangerfield, Duncan even Hawkins to some extent (despite his goals) ? Some might join Isaac Smith in retirement (I'll miss his smile :-[ ). Cameron was never the same since he came back from having his lights knocked out by Tom Stewart. Close and Stengle never had their usual impact in the game either.
Most probably another transition/build up season next year.
I'll try and enjoy the play off regardless. It should be a cracker with Brisbane, Collingwood, Carlton, Port... Even GWS were bloody impressive this morning.
I still love this game 8) I'll still watch Geelong next week vs the Dogs. ;D
Huge controversy in Adelaide's loss. But the result stands.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1013704/this-was-a-mistake-afl-ceo-gillon-mclachlan-backs-review-system-crows-loss-stands-after-wrong-decision
Quote from: Madiel on August 19, 2023, 07:36:22 PMHuge controversy in Adelaide's loss. But the result stands.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1013704/this-was-a-mistake-afl-ceo-gillon-mclachlan-backs-review-system-crows-loss-stands-after-wrong-decision
What with the Dogs losing earlier on and this, I could almost almost have some regrets for the Cats, we still would have needed to beat Saint Kilda though :laugh:
On the issue itself, give each captain a couple of referrals to ARC per game. That would nip this in the bud and putting the onus on the teams to decide which goal decisions worthy of appeal. That works for cricket, doesn't it ?
Blimey
@Holden Damian Hardwick as the next Suns coach ?!?! 8)
Josh Bruce, Riewoldt, Franklin... If the few non-Geelong players I know and can name start to all retire, that's going to be a problem ;D
For sh!ts and giggles, these are the ones I can actually name now from memory and I'd genuinely recognise...
Collingwood: one of the Daicos Brothers...
Brisbane Lions : Charlie Cameron, Daniher
Port Adelaide : Lachie Jones (the guy with the outrageous mullet :laugh: )
Melbourne : Max Gawn, Petracca
Carlton : Curnow
St Kilda: ...
Sydney Swans : Papley
GWS Giants : Toby Greene
Western Bulldogs : Weightmann, Liberatore, Bontempelli
Essendon : ....
Richmond : Dustin Martin, Lynch, Shai Bolton
Adelaide Crows ....
Fremantle ....
Gold Coast Suns ....
Hawthorn ....
North Melbourne ....
West Coast Eagles ....
Those three retirees represent 16% of the ones I actually recognise...
After a quick googling, there are some faces I know but the names are not sticking (Darcy Moore, Pendlebury, Naughton, Bailey Smith, Lachie Neale, Clayton Oliver...oh and that 9ft American guy with the glasses :P )
Don't you just love that the sport has a giant American guy with glasses?
Mason Cox. Didn't originally have the eyewear, it's protective.
Quote from: Madiel on August 26, 2023, 02:57:16 AMDon't you just love that the sport has a giant American guy with glasses?
Mason Cox. Didn't originally have the eyewear, it's protective.
I had him as a tentative Dixon in my head so it didn't go in the list... I remember him in some way because not too long ago, the AFL (I think) tweeted something along the lines of "isn't it great that someone as far afield comes and play footy" about one of the new Irish guys in Geelong I think...
to which Cox responded "uh...hello ???"
...that cracked me up and stuck in my mind :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 26, 2023, 03:04:11 AMI had him as a tentative Dixon in my head so it didn't go in the list... I remember him in some way because not too long ago, the AFL (I think) tweeted something along the lines of "isn't it great that someone as far afield comes and play footy" about one of the new Irish guys in Geelong I think...
to which Cox responded "uh...hello ???"
...that cracked me up and stuck in my mind :laugh:
What sticks in my mind is the 2018 finals series. The television broadcasters made a big thing about Cox's parents coming out to watch. And then in the preliminary final he played one of the best games of his career, with parents on display.
This has led me down fun rabbit holes. Including his parents being out here more recently and Collingwood put a microphone on them. His parents have clearly learned quite a lot about this game none of them knew anything about when Mason started, including Mason!
The other fun rabbit hole is watching Americans on Youtube reacting to their first AFL exposure.
Quote from: Madiel on August 26, 2023, 03:53:12 AMWhat sticks in my mind is the 2018 finals series. The television broadcasters made a big thing about Cox's parents coming out to watch. And then in the preliminary final he played one of the best games of his career, with parents on display.
This has led me down fun rabbit holes. Including his parents being out here more recently and Collingwood put a microphone on them. His parents have clearly learned quite a lot about this game none of them knew anything about when Mason started, including Mason!
I haven't looked at his actual background. I'll need to have a look.
Quote from: Madiel on August 26, 2023, 03:53:12 AMThe other fun rabbit hole is watching Americans on Youtube reacting to their first AFL exposure.
I have seen a couple before. I laugh now but that was me in mid 2020 :-[
What I would show to someone who doesn't know anything about footy is the overall injury list after 6 or 7 weeks. That'd give a good hindsight into the game's physicality. :o
damn it... FT Dogs by 25. guess I'll support GWS tomorrow for a change :P
Season's done. *sigh*
Thank you Isaac Smith for your service (He is still smiling :) ).
Also to Menegola who moves on.
Guard of honour for both now.
(side point: Cameron Ling really irritates me)
23 games.
12 defeats.
4 of them at home (vs Pies, Giants, Dockers, Dogs). Guess the GNBHA is not as scary as it was.
But, but... Geelong were in front when I checked my tipping progress. *cries*
Quote from: Madiel on August 26, 2023, 07:08:05 AMBut, but... Geelong were in front when I checked my tipping progress. *cries*
I know, I know...but the Dogs woke up in Q4.
How did you and
@Holden end up in your respective home and away tipping competitions then ? 8)
What do we reckon for the finals then ? and the Premiers ?
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Quote from: Papy Oli on August 28, 2023, 03:08:27 AMI know, I know...but the Dogs woke up in Q4.
How did you and @Holden end up in your respective home and away tipping competitions then ? 8)
What do we reckon for the finals then ? and the Premiers ?
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I came second by 1 point (thank God for picking the score difference in one round). I did not have a good weekend only getting five out of nine but my nearest competitor only got six.
I'm quietly backing the Lions for this one if they can get past Port. Even though Collingwood are minor premiers they've gone off the boil over the last month and playing a team with nothing to play for in Essendon that result can be taken with a pinch of salt.
I only won one week this year, and finished 7th overall. Ah well.
I'm really not sure about the finals series, precisely because some of the top teams have had a significant wobble late in the season. I would've said it was confined to the top 4 but then some of the other teams put together big runs to make the finals.
ouch, the spirit of Harald Schumacher is alive and well... ???
It's turning ugly...
Mason Cox v Max Gawn
getting tasty...
I'm watching rather delayed. But I've seen the early incident.
The 'Pies are through to the next phase but it wasn't easy against a team that finished three places below them. That said, the Dees get another crack later.
Q1 of Pies V Dees is probably the ugliest quarter of footy I have seen in my short watching life. :o
The Swans nearly pulled off a miracle recovery yesterday but I think seeing Carlton go through and as well as GWS (comprehensively) today is quite logical on their late form. With a tasty Lions v Port shortly, that really makes for exciting September Finals.
I thought that Saints would beat the Giants but it was obvious by the end of the first quarter that there superior midfield play would be the difference and so it proved to be. The way the Lions disposed of Port has me backing them for the flag this year. I feel that Collingwood peaked a little bit early and this is now coming back to bite them.
Having been out earlier in the night, I just finished watching Melbourne v Carlton.
Heck of a game, in front of 96,000 people.
26 scoring kicks to 18 and you still lose. Just goes to show how important those 6 pointers are.
I watched bits and bobs of the game yesterday...and left it when the Dees were 69-60 up, should have known better :-[
Watched the last few minutes, what a deafening noise it was.... :o
News today that Ron Barassi has died, age 87.
One of the greatest players of all time.
Out of curiosity, I had a look at Carlton's wiki page for their Honours.
They finished with the wooden spoon only 5 years ago. In the 2018 table, Brisbane and Saint Kilda were in the bottom four (And the Suns but we won't mention it :P ). West Coast Eagles finished second and ended up Premiers. Hawthorn finished fourth. That was only 5 years ago...
It'd be really interesting to find a graph where you can pick each teams' evolution over the years, to have an idea of length of such good/bad cycles (because of draft or otherwise).
Quote from: Madiel on September 15, 2023, 11:52:12 PMNews today that Ron Barassi has died, age 87.
One of the greatest players of all time.
And a Melbourne player as well. That will add to the sadness of that club this weekend.
Weirdly, his face looked familiar. Reading an article briefly, it must have been from the Dees' celebrations with their recent premiership. he had won their last previous title 57 years prior!!
That's not going to help the prejudice that Australia has a very frightening fauna :P
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1702890840731815979 (https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1702890840731815979)
Quote from: Papy Oli on September 15, 2023, 11:59:28 PMOut of curiosity, I had a look at Carlton's wiki page for their Honours.
They finished with the wooden spoon only 5 years ago. In the 2018 table, Brisbane and Saint Kilda were in the bottom four (And the Suns but we won't mention it :P ). West Coast Eagles finished second and ended up Premiers. Hawthorn finished fourth. That was only 5 years ago...
It'd be really interesting to find a graph where you can pick each teams' evolution over the years, to have an idea of length of such good/bad cycles (because of draft or otherwise).
Yes, it's rather hard to be near the top for long periods, partly thanks to the draft system. Which is why the long run of Geelong, for example, in regularly being in finals is so impressive. I vaguely remember some statistic about Sydney making finals as well.
Quote from: Madiel on September 16, 2023, 12:52:42 AMYes, it's rather hard to be near the top for long periods, partly thanks to the draft system. Which is why the long run of Geelong, for example, in regularly being in finals is so impressive. I vaguely remember some statistic about Sydney making finals as well.
Going from Premiers to 13th us is a ruthless way to find out about such cycles, I tell you :P
3 take-home points from reading Barassi's wiki entry:
- Ok, Legend makes sense :o
- learning he actually is the origin point of the Father/Son rule, after Melbourne promised to take care of him and his mum, following his father's passing in WW2.
- I am on the right side of the Barassi line :laugh:
Technically I'm on the wrong side of the Barassi Line, but Canberra is pretty close to being on that boundary.
About yesterday's game:
well, that was close !! :o Collingwood obviously deserves it for their season but credit to GWS for their end of season run to take them that far.
How about tonight's game: Carlton 31-8 up after Q1!! The Lions are picking the wrong game to let the Gabba be less of a fortress... We'll see how it pans out. Maybe Carlton will pull off what GWS just fell short to do.
HT...Lions by 3.
Carlton fans are a bit quieter...
The Collingwood vs GWS game was quite amazing.
The most amazing thing about the Brisbane v Carlton game was how sedate it was by the very end.
Watching the Lions Blues game I thought that once they got in front the Lions backed off just enough to keep the game within their grasp without taking to much out of their players.
I also thought GWS would beat the Magpies - they certainly came close
G'day!
I'll leave this here. No idea who these people are but hey-ho :P
https://twitter.com/OzKitsch/status/1707211280854233335?t=tG0WI6bdL9HGSK6WJFMz9g&s=19 (https://twitter.com/OzKitsch/status/1707211280854233335?t=tG0WI6bdL9HGSK6WJFMz9g&s=19)
Um... Don Lane and Bert Newton? This has to be from decades ago!
I tried my best to stay on topic and not go on tangents...like mentioning Eddie Jones or Wales for instance :P
Up in time for the second half of the Grand Final. Looks like a close one based on the timeline...
Oh well, well done Collingwood.
Right then, see you in March.
Off to the business end of the RWC for the next month.Allez Les Bleus. In Dupont we trust :P 8)
Ps: how annoyed would you be as a Collingwood coach to see Carlton Zero as a prominent sponsor on your gear? It's just such an odd choice... ::)
Quite a match. It was surprising how the first half was high scoring and then for much of the second half everything clamped right down.
And official full house of 100,024 people.
It seemed a very sketchy second half but Collingwood just looked a sharper in the build-ups.
when Brisbane got their last goal, I thought for a moment the 18 behinds would come back and haunt Collingwood but they held it to the siren.
I have just seen they've now equalled the number of premierships to 16 with Essendon and Carlton.
oh that picture hit me when I saw it earlier today.
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The empty stands, celebrations of the day done, just sitting there and the look of the growing realisation of what he has achieved so far from home.
Pies fan or not, a great sporting picture methinks.
Quote from: Papy Oli on October 02, 2023, 01:21:35 PMoh that picture hit me when I saw it earlier today.
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The empty stands, celebrations of the day done, just sitting there and the look of the growing realisation of what he has achieved so far from home.
Pies fan or not, a great sporting picture methinks.
Yeah, basically the first person from his country to ever do this. Pretty huge.
His family were there for it.
Go Geelong!
(on TV :o )
Only four down Vs Brisbane in the AFLW semi-final.
Go Cats!!
Ah, fudge it... :(
Back in March... 8)
One sleep...just one!!! Bumpity!! :laugh:
And then stressing and early weekend mornings till September 8)
No idea what team changes have been like for the Cats. I'll have to catch up before their first game weekend after next.
How to go from minus 46 to +1 in roughly half a QT? Just ask Curnow to turn up and the others follow... :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 08, 2024, 01:35:58 AMHow to go from minus 46 to +1 in roughly half a QT? Just ask Curnow to turn up and the others follow... :laugh:
When I see a side collapse at the end like this the first thing I think of is how fit were they?
Quote from: Holden on March 08, 2024, 02:12:42 PMWhen I see a side collapse at the end like this the first thing I think of is how fit were they?
I don't know, the Lions had a (very) bad 10 minutes spell evidently but after that, it was back and forth in Q4 between both teams.
You're happy with the start of Hardwick's tenure I guess,
@Holden ? 8)
Watching GWS/Pies over breakfast :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 09, 2024, 12:01:10 AMI don't know, the Lions had a (very) bad 10 minutes spell evidently but after that, it was back and forth in Q4 between both teams.
You're happy with the start of Hardwick's tenure I guess, @Holden ? 8)
Watching GWS/Pies over breakfast :laugh:
I'm very happy with Damien's first up game. Club culture is important and appointing a winning coach is a must if you want a winning mentality. I'm not expecting any miracles in his first season but I can already see how he has changed how the team plays. If we make the last eight finals it will be a good season. I decided to support the Suns when they were first formed and I'll continue to do so. Their home ground is a five minute drive from where I live and I'll try and indulge myself by watching them live for the first time.
Carlton v Richmond is the first game I'm watching this year and they're putting on a good one.
Quote from: Madiel on March 14, 2024, 02:17:09 AMCarlton v Richmond is the first game I'm watching this year and they're putting on a good one.
That was a good goal for goal kind of game, despite three Tigers going out injured during the game, Richmond gave Carlton a good run.
Come on Cats!! 8)
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 16, 2024, 12:35:51 AMCome on Cats!! 8)
And they're 14 points ahead at the moment. The Suns have made a good start against the Crows and the Giants have smashed the Kangaroos.
As for Collingwood.... what a shower of shite! I won't back them again this season.
Quote from: Holden on March 16, 2024, 01:41:29 AMAnd they're 14 points ahead at the moment. The Suns have made a good start against the Crows and the Giants have smashed the Kangaroos.
As for Collingwood.... what a shower of shite! I won't back them again this season.
Very scrappy playing by the Cats, lots of handling errors. The Saints have more fluidity in their counter-attacks and handballs. What saved us is some good defending by Stewart, De Koning, etc. Geelong turned it around in Q2 by some better constructed attacked and some good runs and kicks by Jezza Cameron and Oliver Dempsey.
Quote from: Holden on March 16, 2024, 01:41:29 AMAs for Collingwood.... what a shower of shite! I won't back them again this season.
As holding premiers, everybody will be out to get them this season. It won't be a walk in the park.
it was horrible for us, 2023 was just a long hangover :laugh:
Side point: great to see a full Kardinia Park at last with the new stand fully done 8)
Fudge me....
Kilda came back within 1 point with 2 min to go.
Dangerfield makes a mark on the 50m line. Hits it, looks like going behind and curves back in for goal right at the end in the last min.
I am knackered :laugh:
and I have 3 Rugby games to follow today, including Le Crunch this evening ??? :laugh:
3 in the row for the Crows.
Hardwick has that seething face on of the bad Richmond days :laugh:
(and that's with GC 20 up :P )
5 in a row...
ADE back within 8 points of GC with 3 min to go.
Hardwich has gone up from seething to extremely disappointed ;D
2 behinds.
6 points in it.
1 min to go.
You ok,
@Holden ?
and a failed mark on the 50's line for the Crows just seconds from the siren...
blimey!!
Last season we would probably have coughed that one up so a big plus to see them hold on.
Dangerfield to the rescue for the Cats.
Caught up with the Cats' game 2-3 hours later. A good win by 20. Should have been much closer if the crows hadn't missed some clear goal chances and other poor kicking for marks. Geelong played a patient and solid game and manage to disrupt and slow down their attacks enough to hold them back at the siren. Not flamboyant but a serious game and four more points on the ladder.
I don't know what was in the Aussie water this weekend but blimey, what a bunch of cracking games...!!!
I watched three games on catch-up this weekend (without looking up any scores !!). That was a blast as a "neutral". Brisbane held on a long while against Collingwood until it drifted away. Port v Dees was a cracking tense game, as was Richmond edging it against the Swans.
No wonder you guys are keeping quiet about the betting outcomes... :laugh:
I then checked the score of Bombers-Saints. What a timeline, flippin' heck !! I just watched their Q4 , because why not. 8)
5.20am kickoff for the Cats tomorrow. I don't think so. That will have to be a catch up as well on Tuesday as won't have time tomorrow.
Sigh. Don't tell me the games were great, I failed to watch any of them. :laugh:
I'm spending too much time trying to plan my European journey to pay attention to Australia!
I'm not in the office tipping competition this year because I'll miss half the season anyway.
Quote from: Madiel on April 01, 2024, 04:40:36 AMSigh. Don't tell me the games were great, I failed to watch any of them. :laugh:
I'm spending too much time trying to plan my European journey to pay attention to Australia!
I'm not in the office tipping competition this year because I'll miss half the season anyway.
That's a good enough excuse I guess. Shame, I enjoyed your tipping ups and downs :laugh:
Up early enough to catch some of the Geelong game, before hitting the road. Switched on at the end of Q3 to find the game suspended for nearby lightning for 50 min ::)
Managed to just about squeeze Q4 in before leaving. I'll watch the full game tomorrow.
Three for nought will do nicely. Good way to celebrate the Tomahawk's 350th. 8)
Dogs next.
There will be some low scores on the tipping sheets this week that's for sure. I"ll find out today when I go into my local to check.