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Title: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 05, 2019, 06:44:50 AM
I didn't see a tennis thread (pardon if I missed it, and please feel free to move this posting there), so I thought that I'd start one.

Are there any tennis fans here?  If so, did you manage to watch any of the Hopman Cup matches?  I thought that the final's mixed doubles (particularly the third set) was quite exciting/sitting-on-the-edge-of-ones-chair-match!

Best wishes,

PD
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Post by: Ten thumbs on January 10, 2019, 03:46:34 AM
Yes - who would want to miss Roger v Serena, and Frances and Belinda played their part.
Australian open coming up. All I need is some appropriate music (and no, nothing containing the word Clementine!).
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 11, 2019, 06:33:52 AM
Yes - who would want to miss Roger v Serena, and Frances and Belinda played their part.
Australian open coming up. All I need is some appropriate music (and no, nothing containing the word Clementine!).

Actually, I was referring to Switzerland vs. Germany (who played each other in the final), but yes, it was quite exciting to see Serena and Roger (and their respective teammates) play against each other too!   :)  In the final, it came down to a tiebreak in the third and final set.  The rules were basically whoever got to five points first was the winner.  The score was 4-all, so it was championship point for both teams...whoever won the next point would win the Hopman Cup.  In the end, Switzerland won.  Good job though by both teams.  Felt rather badly for Germany as they hadn't won the HC for something like 24 years?  And they were also in the final last year...and you can guess who they lost to too!

Glad to hear that I am not alone here in enjoying tennis; I suspected not and was hoping that it was just the holidays keeping people from answering?

As far as appropriate music is concerned, hmmm....perhaps "Jeux" by Debussy to start?  And then followed by something by Britten, Ravel, Schoenberg, Gershwin and/or Prokofiev?  http://www.classical-music.com/feature/world-music/six-best-tennis-playing-composers

Will you be watching the Australian Open?  I hope to watch at least some of it....though the time difference is brutal.   :(

Best wishes,

PD

p.s.  By the way, who painted your painting/avatar?  And do you paint yourself?   :)
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Post by: NikF on January 11, 2019, 05:20:54 PM
My late wife played tennis, all the way back from prep school ('Repton'?) until Denstone, then Cambridge, until competing at county level. Her grandmother (as an aside, the only member of her family who never judged me) had an orchard in her garden replaced by a tennis court to encourage my then little girl wife in her pursuits. Years later I played tennis againt my wife on her step mother's court. I boxed as an amateur for about 15-16 years but my wife's serves were faster than any jab I faced.  ;D
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 13, 2019, 05:22:30 AM
My late wife played tennis, all the way back from prep school ('Repton'?) until Denstone, then Cambridge, until competing at county level. Her grandmother (as an aside, the only member of her family who never judged me) had an orchard in her garden replaced by a tennis court to encourage my then little girl wife in her pursuits. Years later I played tennis againt my wife on her step mother's court. I boxed as an amateur for about 15-16 years but my wife's serves were faster than any jab I faced.  ;D
;D  Good for her!  I don't play myself (should take some lessons), but I do love watching it!  Boxing?  A handy protective skill to have methinks.   :)

Best wishes,

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 19, 2019, 06:46:02 PM
Anyone here been watching the Australian Open?  Currently on:  an exciting match between the Aussie Ash Barty and Maria Sharapova.  Looking forward to watching Roger play the young but very talented Tsitsipas later.

Best,

PD
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Post by: mc ukrneal on January 20, 2019, 05:06:25 AM
Anyone here been watching the Australian Open?  Currently on:  an exciting match between the Aussie Ash Barty and Maria Sharapova.  Looking forward to watching Roger play the young but very talented Tsitsipas later.

Best,

PD
Very talented indeed!
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: aligreto on January 20, 2019, 05:38:22 AM
My wife is a big tennis fan. She will be disappointed that RF is out of the Australian Open.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 20, 2019, 10:45:15 AM


TOO talented!   :(

But, seriously, good for him.  What an accomplishment!  Heard that he is also the first Greek (or Greek man) to ever make it into a quarter-final at a slam too.  I do like him, but must admit I wanted to see Federer win.

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 20, 2019, 10:47:06 AM
My wife is a big tennis fan. She will be disappointed that RF is out of the Australian Open.

Please let her know that I'd be happy to share my box of tissues with her.   :'(

Wonder whether or not it will be a Novak/Nadal final this year?

PD
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Post by: aligreto on January 20, 2019, 12:28:15 PM
TOO talented!   :(

But, seriously, good for him.  What an accomplishment!  Heard that he is also the first Greek (or Greek man) to ever make it into a quarter-final at a slam too.  I do like him, but must admit I wanted to see Federer win.

PD

Interestingly, Tsitsipas reminds me, to look at physically, of another tennis legend, Bjorn Borg. His playing style is, however, much different to that of Borg's. 
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 21, 2019, 07:16:33 AM
Interestingly, Tsitsipas reminds me, to look at physically, of another tennis legend, *Bjorn Borg. His playing style is, however, much different to that of Borg's.

Hey, how can one not like a guy who has a single-handed backhand and likes to incorporate serve and volley.  Hmmm...who else style-wise does that remind me of??   :-\

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: aligreto on January 21, 2019, 09:35:18 AM
Nadal  :laugh:
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 25, 2019, 03:15:44 PM
Nadal  :laugh:
Not the first person that came to mind.... ;)

Well, we will be getting a Djokovic/Nadal final!  No 5 hours and 53 minutes though with the changes in the rules.  Remember this?(http://www.tennisgrandstand.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/novak-djokovic-rafael-nadal-australian-open-final-2012-e1328372888670.jpg)  And this....

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K1ChQ_niS4s/hqdefault.jpg)

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: JBS on January 26, 2019, 08:52:58 PM
https://betterlivingthroughbeowulf.com/farewell-to-serenas-dominance/
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: aligreto on January 29, 2019, 08:48:03 AM
Remember this?

(http://www.tennisgrandstand.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/novak-djokovic-rafael-nadal-australian-open-final-2012-e1328372888670.jpg) 

And this....

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K1ChQ_niS4s/hqdefault.jpg)

PD

That was an incredible match.
The recent encounter was no comparison at all unfortunately.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on January 29, 2019, 10:48:18 AM
Yes, sad to see.  Novak was certainly on fire!

Did you catch any of the women's match?  Now that was something!

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: aligreto on January 29, 2019, 11:03:57 AM
Yes, sad to see.  Novak was certainly on fire!

Did you catch any of the women's match?  Now that was something!

PD

Yes, I watched the final and it was very exciting. A real pity that there had to be a winner in that one.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on April 27, 2020, 05:57:50 AM
With the current lack of any real tennis playing going on, there's a fun virtual match currently being played in Madrid.  You can watch it either at Mutua Madrid's Facebook page or on tennis.com.  It's a round robin format and I think that all or part of the money goes towards various charities....a little confused about that part.  Note:  no advantages given to any of the players...it's all dependent upon their gaming skills.  Caught some of the match between Ferrar and Schwartzman...good to see them laughing and having fun.  The matches are quite short too (if you're worried about spending to much time watching them).  https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/04/watch-live-mutua-madrid-open-virtual-pro-video-game-tournament/88543/

or https://www.facebook.com/mutuamadridopen

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 06, 2020, 10:14:23 AM
Am going through 'Manic Monday' withdrawal.  I miss my Wimbledon!

Mandryka,

How are you feeling about a non-The Championships year?  Particularly considering where you live?  I would imagine that between Covid-19 and no tennis players, teams, volunteers, lines people, chair umps, etc. and no spectators that it must be feeling exceedingly quiet/empty in your area?  Don't know how much of a tennis fan you are or whether or not you've ever been lucky enough to get tickets to see any live tennis?

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 07, 2020, 12:04:23 PM
Am going through 'Manic Monday' withdrawal.  I miss my Wimbledon!

Mandryka,

How are you feeling about a non-The Championships year?  Particularly considering where you live?  I would imagine that between Covid-19 and no tennis players, teams, volunteers, lines people, chair umps, etc. and no spectators that it must be feeling exceedingly quiet/empty in your area?  Don't know how much of a tennis fan you are or whether or not you've ever been lucky enough to get tickets to see any live tennis?

PD
Anyone missing the tennis?  Mandryka?
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 01, 2020, 08:14:03 AM
Anyone here watching the US Open?

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 03, 2020, 08:16:13 AM
No one except me?  :(  For you British sports fans, I was very impressed by Andy Murray's comeback from two sets down to win his first match a couple of days ago.  Almost 4 1/2 hours!  A number of the players watched from their private suites (formerly sponsors' VIP suites) including Novak while fellow Brits were there I think to see how he was playing and to also lend support to their former No. 1.   :)

Nice to see a couple of Nordic players now in a match against each other:  Casper Ruud (a Norwegian player who I've seen play before) and a new-to-me Finnish player by the name of Emil Ruusuvuori.

PD
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Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 03, 2020, 07:11:32 PM
No one except me?  :(  For you British sports fans, I was very impressed by Andy Murray's comeback from two sets down to win his first match a couple of days ago.  Almost 4 1/2 hours!  A number of the players watched from their private suites (formerly sponsors' VIP suites) including Novak while fellow Brits were there I think to see how he was playing and to also lend support to their former No. 1.   :)

Nice to see a couple of Nordic players now in a match against each other:  Casper Ruud (a Norwegian player who I've seen play before) and a new-to-me Finnish player by the name of Emil Ruusuvuori.

PD

I play tennis and I like watching tennis. Just the fanatical U.S. exceptionalism and Narcissism of the audience and commentators in the U.S. Open are not for me.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on February 15, 2021, 06:52:46 AM
Anyone here watching the Australian Open? 

PD
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Post by: Mirror Image on February 15, 2021, 06:28:58 PM
My favorite game of tennis is in Debussy’s Jeux:

(https://dancetabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/vg-jeux-pastel-fountain-1913_1000.jpg)
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on February 16, 2021, 05:08:51 AM
Yes, that's a lovely work.  :)

Starting off the day watching some of No. 1 Novak Djokovic vs. the 'youngster' Sasha Zverev.

PD

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Post by: Irons on July 03, 2021, 06:17:52 AM
Yes, that's a lovely work.  :)

Starting off the day watching some of No. 1 Novak Djokovic vs. the 'youngster' Sasha Zverev.

PD

What do you think of another youngster, PD? Emma Raducanu, 18 and mixing with the best, clever with predicted multi A* GCSE's and pretty as a picture. The wonder of youth.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 03, 2021, 07:10:13 AM
What do you think of another youngster, PD? Emma Raducanu, 18 and mixing with the best, clever with predicted multi A* GCSE's and pretty as a picture. The wonder of youth.
I caught a tiny bit of her match today; she was off my radar before that.  Believe that she is the youngest British female player to make it into the second week of Wimbledon since, I want to say, sometime in the 1980's?  Really impressed by her focus...think that she's 18?  I did a very quick google of her after her match and found out that she was born in Toronto, Canada and moved to London when she was two.  Think that she'll go places.  :)

Here's a bit more about her here:  https://apnews.com/article/europe-wimbledon-tennis-sports-0a2f95d980edef84c575fac62e78c3c7

As far as youngsters goes, I've been keeping a sharp eye on the American Coco Gauff who has also been playing well at Wimbledon (her second time there).  She's 17 years old, very poised, focused and driven--and talented!  Seems to have a good head on her too.  :)

She'll be facing the accomplished German tennis player Angelique Kerber next who is a former No. 1 and a 3-time grand slam winner.

Currently watching Roger play.  He won the first two sets 6-4, 6-4 but is digging in harder in the third set.  Haven't been paying as close of attention as I should have been/be!  My bad!  :-[  Should look at the set stats.  Trying to also get some chores done and then need to run some errands.

Sorry to see Murray beaten yesterday.  Amazing fight from him to still want to play tennis after two hip surgeries!  And the grass at Wimbledon is slippery...easier to move on it during the second week (gets harder).

Best,

PD

p.s.  The crowd has been going crazy for Cameron Norrie (as much as a lot of them love Federer).  They're wanting to see it go the distance (best 3 out of 5 sets for the men; 2-3 for the women).  You guys really support your fellow British players!  :)

EDIT:  Suddenly it's Federer that's faltering.  Well done by him for taking the third set!
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Iota on July 03, 2021, 09:05:41 AM
What do you think of another youngster, PD? Emma Raducanu, 18 and mixing with the best, clever with predicted multi A* GCSE's and pretty as a picture. The wonder of youth.

You didn't ask me, but I think she has a spark of something very special about her, which I hope can grow into a flame. She seems remarkably relaxed and mature on court, and off it a very natural and likeable teenager. I thought she was amazing this afternoon, pulling off some astonishing shots, I couldn't tear myself away it.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 04, 2021, 03:13:48 AM
You didn't ask me, but I think she has a spark of something very special about her, which I hope can grow into a flame. She seems remarkably relaxed and mature on court, and off it a very natural and likeable teenager. I thought she was amazing this afternoon, pulling off some astonishing shots, I couldn't tear myself away it.
Nice to know that there's another tennis fan here!  I'll try and catch her next match when it comes up.  For Irons (and anyone else here who would like to know more about her, there's a nice article on the Wimbledon website):  https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2021-07-04/fearless_raducanu_has_her_feet_on_the_ground.html

Interesting:  I see that she is currently being coached by Nigel Sears who is Andy Murray's father-in-law (Kim Sears is his daughter).

Looks like she's third in line on Monday (Court 1).  Play starts there at 1 p.m. your time, so I'm guessing maybe 5 p.m. or later (which would be 1700 hours).  Just a guess as there's no predicting how long certain matches will last.

Who else are you fans of Iota?  :)

Best,

PD
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Post by: Irons on July 04, 2021, 05:05:32 AM
Nice to know that there's another tennis fan here!  I'll try and catch her next match when it comes up.  For Irons (and anyone else here who would like to know more about her, there's a nice article on the Wimbledon website):  https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2021-07-04/fearless_raducanu_has_her_feet_on_the_ground.html

Interesting:  I see that she is currently being coached by Nigel Sears who is Andy Murray's father-in-law (Kim Sears is his daughter).

Looks like she's third in line on Monday (Court 1).  Play starts there at 1 p.m. your time, so I'm guessing maybe 5 p.m. or later (which would be 1700 hours).  Just a guess as there's no predicting how long certain matches will last.

Who else are you fans of Iota?  :)

Best,

PD

I laughed during the interview, a Chinese mother, Romanian father and born in Canada when she said "I legged it" I knew she was one of ours.  ;D
Her next opponent Ajla Tomljanovic is quoted "She will definitely have the crowd" which my Sunday newspaper describes as the understatement of the fortnight. ;D 
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Post by: Iota on July 04, 2021, 05:42:48 AM
Nice to know that there's another tennis fan here!  I'll try and catch her next match when it comes up.  For Irons (and anyone else here who would like to know more about her, there's a nice article on the Wimbledon website):  https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2021-07-04/fearless_raducanu_has_her_feet_on_the_ground.html

Interesting:  I see that she is currently being coached by Nigel Sears who is Andy Murray's father-in-law (Kim Sears is his daughter).

Looks like she's third in line on Monday (Court 1).  Play starts there at 1 p.m. your time, so I'm guessing maybe 5 p.m. or later (which would be 1700 hours).  Just a guess as there's no predicting how long certain matches will last.

Who else are you fans of Iota?  :)

Best,

PD

I'm really only an intermittent sports fan, PD, I dip into Wimbledon when it's on, maybe a few at Roland-Garros, and when something grabs my attention will stick with it. I'm a big fan of Roger Federer enchanted by the grace and dare I say it, the poetry of his playing. I loved John McEnroe when he was playing (like him as a pundit too, honest and amusing at times), Steffi Graf and Monica Seles spring to mind also, though there are number of others. Players who for me have a magnetic quality about them.

It would be great if Emma Raducanu could rise to their ranks, keeping her freshness and spontaneity about her.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 04, 2021, 06:38:13 AM
I laughed during the interview, a Chinese mother, Romanian father and born in Canada when she said "I legged it" I knew she was one of ours.  ;D
Her next opponent Ajla Tomljanovic is quoted "She will definitely have the crowd" which my Sunday newspaper describes as the understatement of the fortnight. ;D
Glad that you enjoyed it Irons.  :)

Hadn't heard that expression before.

I'm really only an intermittent sports fan, PD, I dip into Wimbledon when it's on, maybe a few at Roland-Garros, and when something grabs my attention will stick with it. I'm a big fan of Roger Federer enchanted by the grace and dare I say it, the poetry of his playing. I loved John McEnroe when he was playing (like him as a pundit too, honest and amusing at times), Steffi Graf and Monica Seles spring to mind also, though there are number of others. Players who for me have a magnetic quality about them.

It would be great if Emma Raducanu could rise to their ranks, keeping her freshness and spontaneity about her.
You might appreciate this (bizarre but fun) interview at the Australian Open.  John McEnroe is interviewing Federer on court then Will Farrell interrupts to ask Roger some questions.  :D

And, yes, I wish the best for your Emma Raducanu.

PD

EDIT:  Whoops!  Sorry, I forgot to add the link.  It's here:  https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/australian-open/will-ferrells-bizarre-roger-federer-interview/news-story/ecbdcf238a6cd8bd642a895ac3f413d6

Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Iota on July 04, 2021, 09:14:11 AM
Thanks, PD, will check out the bizarre-ness!
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 04, 2021, 09:56:55 AM
Thanks, PD, will check out the bizarre-ness!
It's a short clip of the "interview" (which itself was short).  Apparently, Will Farrell reprised a role from a former movie that he was in (as a newscaster).  There's a bit more info in the article.   :)

PD
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Post by: vandermolen on July 04, 2021, 11:01:05 AM
I'm really only an intermittent sports fan, PD, I dip into Wimbledon when it's on, maybe a few at Roland-Garros, and when something grabs my attention will stick with it. I'm a big fan of Roger Federer enchanted by the grace and dare I say it, the poetry of his playing. I loved John McEnroe when he was playing (like him as a pundit too, honest and amusing at times), Steffi Graf and Monica Seles spring to mind also, though there are number of others. Players who for me have a magnetic quality about them.

It would be great if Emma Raducanu could rise to their ranks, keeping her freshness and spontaneity about her.
Her success has, so far, been rather overshadowed by the unlikely progress of the England football team but I hope that she continues to do well.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 04, 2021, 11:14:53 AM
Her success has, so far, been rather overshadowed by the unlikely progress of the England football team but I hope that she continues to do well.
Well Jeffrey, that's horrible!  I do understand how important a sport that football is in not only the UK, but Europe and the rest of the world, but it shouldn't be compared nor undervalued.  There are a ton of tennis fans out there and by the way, I've read a whole lot of reports in the news over the years as to what Judy Murray has done for girls re tennis...tennis/kids, tennis/Scotland and she's raised amazing boys who totally value women in sports and not just sports!

Sorry, not trying to dismiss football, but there are also a lot of people out there in the world who care about other sports (possibly in addition to football)....and girls do matter (as I'm sure that you would agree).  And how many, care about women's football teams?

PD
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Post by: vandermolen on July 04, 2021, 01:10:37 PM
Well Jeffrey, that's horrible!  I do understand how important a sport that football is in not only the UK, but Europe and the rest of the world, but it shouldn't be compared nor undervalued.  There are a ton of tennis fans out there and by the way, I've read a whole lot of reports in the news over the years as to what Judy Murray has done for girls re tennis...tennis/kids, tennis/Scotland and she's raised amazing boys who totally value women in sports and not just sports!

Sorry, not trying to dismiss football, but there are also a lot of people out there in the world who care about other sports (possibly in addition to football)....and girls do matter (as I'm sure that you would agree).  And how many, care about women's football teams?

PD
Tennis usually gets a lot of coverage here PD and Women's football an increasing amount.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 05, 2021, 01:28:23 AM
Tennis usually gets a lot of coverage here PD and Women's football an increasing amount.
Good to hear--about both!  :)

Today is Manic Monday....yippee!  How to keep up with it though?!  ???  Last year of it sadly as next year they will be dropping the tradition of mid-Sunday break (rest day).

PD

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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 05, 2021, 05:25:03 AM
Amazing run so far for the Tunisian tennis player Ons Jabur.  She just took out Iga Swiatek--the young Polish player who won the French Open in 2020.  She (Jabur) is the first Arab tennis player and Tunisian to have made it so far into a slam; she's now on to the quarterfinals.  I really felt for her during her last round.  She was going to serve out the match and apparently nerves got the best of her and she ended up, er, vomiting before she served to close out the match.  Poor thing!  :(  But, she made it on through to the second week of Wimbledon and is now into the quarters.  Well done by her!

Novak has almost closed out his match in three sets against the Chilean Garin, so I expect to see Coco Gauff and Angelique Kerber up soon  That should be a good one to watch!

PD
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Post by: Irons on July 05, 2021, 06:02:03 AM
Well Jeffrey, that's horrible!  I do understand how important a sport that football is in not only the UK, but Europe and the rest of the world, but it shouldn't be compared nor undervalued.  There are a ton of tennis fans out there and by the way, I've read a whole lot of reports in the news over the years as to what Judy Murray has done for girls re tennis...tennis/kids, tennis/Scotland and she's raised amazing boys who totally value women in sports and not just sports!

Sorry, not trying to dismiss football, but there are also a lot of people out there in the world who care about other sports (possibly in addition to football)....and girls do matter (as I'm sure that you would agree).  And how many, care about women's football teams?

PD

Wall to wall Wimbledon here PD. As I type this coverage on both BBC 1 & 2. As for football if England were to get past Denmark then the nation will come to a standstill at 8pm next Sunday. As a nation we love sport but unfortunately for the most part we are not very good at it, so when someone comes along like Andy Murray or a decent football team we tend to go a little silly.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 05, 2021, 06:40:59 AM
Wall to wall Wimbledon here PD. As I type this coverage on both BBC 1 & 2. As for football if England were to get past Denmark then the nation will come to a standstill at 8pm next Sunday. As a nation we love sport but unfortunately for the most part we are not very good at it, so when someone comes along like Andy Murray or a decent football team we tend to go a little silly.
I'm not at all surprised that the BBC has two channels for Wimbledon!   After all, it could be easily argued that it's tennis' biggest slam.  ;D  Do they have nearly as much coverage on t.v. when it's one of the other grand slams?  I expect not.  And you do have many wonderful sports players!  Don't be so modest!

I'll give you a heads up here when it looks like Raducanu will be coming up soon.  I suspect that I'll be going between her match and Roger's.  A bit crazed here at the moment--trying to clean, do laundry, etc.  A friend might be joining me for an early dinner later...and to watch Roger (not certain yet).   In any event, stuff needs to get done!  ::)

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 05, 2021, 09:49:22 AM
Raducanu alert!!  The men's match just before her (on Court 1) has just finished and they are doing a quick on-court interview with Felix Auger-Aliassime the Canadian winner.

I'm guessing about 15 minutes before Raducanu's match starts.

PD
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Post by: vandermolen on July 05, 2021, 10:32:34 PM
Raducanu alert!!  The men's match just before her (on Court 1) has just finished and they are doing a quick on-court interview with Felix Auger-Aliassime the Canadian winner.

I'm guessing about 15 minutes before Raducanu's match starts.

PD

I'm not a great tennis fan but was enjoying Raducanu's game yesterday when she went off the court and did not return. I feel v sorry for her. John McEnroe (whom I couldn't stand in his youth but whom I rather like now) has come in for a lot of criticism for suggesting that she 'bottled it' but, I have to say, my first thought on hearing that she was suffering from breathing difficulties was that she was having a panic attack - I hope that she is ok and comes back from this stronger.
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Post by: Irons on July 05, 2021, 11:31:13 PM
Raducanu alert!!  The men's match just before her (on Court 1) has just finished and they are doing a quick on-court interview with Felix Auger-Aliassime the Canadian winner.

I'm guessing about 15 minutes before Raducanu's match starts.

PD

Thanks for heads-up PD. ;) Your feller did rather well didn't he!

Obviously something not right with Raducanu. Her father is hinting she had breathing difficulties which was down to nerves. Riding a crest of a wave with all the media pressure piled onto her young shoulders she came up against a very good streetwise opponent and was all too much.   



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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 06, 2021, 02:51:58 AM
Yes, I can only imagine that she was probably starting to have (not certain of the difference between) a panic or anxiety attack, but only she and her team know for certain.  Hope that she finds a way to deal with whatever the issue is.  She certainly is talented!  All the best wishes for her and her team.  And what a great run for her at Wimbledon and at her young age.  Hope that she focuses on that rather than not having gone further there.

Roger on through to the quarters.  Must admit, he's going to have to raise his level back to or closer to his 'normal' Federer-self is he's going to continue on there much further.  He's had an awkward/rough road back after being out for about 2 years due to two knee surgeries, the pandemic, and not getting in many tennis matches before Wimbledon plus, ageless as he seems, he is getting older and it takes longer to recover after matches vs. the young ones.  Still experience and having a full 'bag of tricks' to draw from matters--a lot!

Fingers crossed for him,

PD

EDIT:  By the way, any fans of Ash Barty here?  I've been quite impressed by not only her playing but also of her composure and attitude towards the sport and her fellow players.  Very talented--not just in tennis but also in cricket.  An amazing story.  You can read some of it here:  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jun/23/i-thought-that-was-it-why-ash-barty-almost-gave-up-tennis-for-good
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Post by: Iota on July 07, 2021, 04:09:53 AM
The fact that Raducanu has panic attacks actually makes me like her a bit more. If that makes me weird, so be it!
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Post by: Irons on July 07, 2021, 06:04:20 AM
The fact that Raducanu has panic attacks actually makes me like her a bit more. If that makes me weird, so be it!

Me too. Nice of Rashford to send her a message saying the same thing happened to him playing for England juniors and has not occurred since.

Her PR team have probably earned her an extra few £million telling her to do interviews in a three lions England footy shirt. 
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 07, 2021, 06:07:31 AM
Me too. Nice of Rashford to send her a message saying the same thing happened to him playing for England juniors and has not occurred since.

Her PR team have probably earned her an extra few £million telling her to do interviews in a three lions England footy shirt.
;D

Roger up in a few minutes (Novak on through in three sets; no surprise there!).  Went to the grocery store early while it was still cool.  Am trying to figure out how I am going to make all of the dishes that I want to today whilst still catching his match.   :-[ :-\  Ack!

PD
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Post by: aligreto on July 07, 2021, 08:57:42 AM
Roger, for some reason, did not perform at near his best today and was therefore dutifully dispatched by the better player on court today.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 07, 2021, 09:41:46 AM
Roger, for some reason, did not perform at near his best today and was therefore dutifully dispatched by the better player on court today.
Hard to watch here.  All credit to Hurkacz to keep his cool and stay focused and play well--particularly on Centre Court with most of the folks cheering for Roger.  Roger had been struggling throughout the tournament, to be honest, with some glimpses of his old self shining through at times.  Apparently, next step is to reassess things with his team and figure out where to go from here.  In any event, as you said, Hurkacz was definitely the better player today, so I wish him well in his next round(s).  :)

PD
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Post by: aligreto on July 08, 2021, 01:09:04 AM
Even great sportspeople need match practice and that has been missing for Federer in a big way for obvious reasons. He did extremely well to get to where was in this tournament but at some stage even pure instinct is not enough.
I wonder will he play the US Open? That surface may well be too hard for those recovering knees.

Yes, will watch Hurkacz with interest.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 08, 2021, 04:27:35 AM
Even great sportspeople need match practice and that has been missing for Federer in a big way for obvious reasons. He did extremely well to get to where was in this tournament but at some stage even pure instinct is not enough.
I wonder will he play the US Open? That surface may well be too hard for those recovering knees.

Yes, will watch Hurkacz with interest.
Yes, I knew that he had been trying to get some *matches in prior to Wimbledon--unfortunately, he was beaten in the early rounds of the few previous events that he had entered (with the exception of RG from which he pulled out after, I believe, it was the third round).   :(  No idea what he'll decide to do; he mentioned yesterday during the post-match press interview that he didn't know yet and need to talk to his team about things and where to do from here.  And, yes, I agree with you that he did really well to make it to the quarter-finals at Wimbledon.

I do hope that he does decide to play on.  It didn't sound like he was ready to give up tennis--despite the disappointment and yesterday's results.  Yesterday was hard enough to watch and hearing repeated conversations by various commentators didn't help my mood.  It will truly be a sad day for all tennis fans when he does decide to retire.

*which as a Federer fan, I faithfully watched.  ;)

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 08, 2021, 08:39:03 AM
Pretty cool to see Ash Barty into the Wimbledon final.  There hasn't been an Australian woman there since Evonne Goolagong in 1980.  I imagine also that Australian tennis fans were pumped about there having been an all-Australian quarter final there too (vs. Tomljanovic).  Barty will be playing the veteran Czech player Karolina Plishkova in the final.

Further thoughts regarding Federer and his near-term tennis path:  I suspect that he will skip the Tokyo Olympics and play either the Citi Open (in Washington, DC) or the what used to be called the Roger's Cup in Canada, followed by the Western & Southern Open (in Cincinnati, OH), followed by the US Open (in New York).  Just my thoughts....

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 10, 2021, 04:10:50 AM
And the women are on court for their final; Ash Barty vs. Karolina Plishkova.

Eating my strawberries, but no cream--some yogurt along with blueberries instead.  :)

Enjoy!

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on July 10, 2021, 07:16:48 AM
Pleased to see Ash Barty win Wimbledon.  She won it on the 50th anniversary of her fellow countrywoman's first victory there too.  Apparently, Evonne Goolagong has become something of a mentor to Ash too.  Ashleigh had an idea to honor her by wearing a version of EG's famous scallop tennis dress, but called her first to see how Goolagong felt about it (She was thrilled.).

Did feel rather badly for Karolina Plishkova today for although she has reached No. 1 in the WTA rankings (and also has consistently stayed in the top rankings), she has yet to win a slam (been to the finals of various slams a number of times too).

PD
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Post by: Iota on July 11, 2021, 07:21:23 AM
Started watching the Djokovich/Berrettini final but the crowd seem so obviously biased towards Berrettini it made me feel a bit awkward watching. For someone of such stature in the game it somehow seems a bit of an injustice, and in such a cauldron as Centre Court it must even seem a bit personal at times. So just dipping in for now.
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Post by: OrchestralNut on July 11, 2021, 08:35:44 AM
I'm a big fan of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal.

I can't claim the same for Djokovic. Something about him that has always rubbed me the wrong way. His air (hint of arrogance, attitude, not so humble nature). Undoubtedly one of the greatest tennis talents of all time, I can fully admit to that.

I congratulate him on tying Federer and Nadal.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on August 30, 2021, 09:46:54 AM
Andy Murray vs. Stefanos Tsitsipas warming up on court now.  Rough draw for the first round at the US Open.

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on August 30, 2021, 10:38:48 AM
Impressive start by Murray:  6-2 vs. Tsitsipas in first set (out of best of five).  The veteran is showing his skills, knowledge, and experience--and after two hip replacement surgeries...amazing.

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on August 31, 2021, 05:05:29 AM
Thrilling match between Murray and Tsitsipas which went to five sets.  Did anyone else here catch it?

PD
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Post by: Irons on September 01, 2021, 06:48:51 AM
Thrilling match between Murray and Tsitsipas which went to five sets.  Did anyone else here catch it?

PD

PD, I would be interested to hear your view on the "toilet break" row. Not just tennis but all sport, are manoeuvres like this fair game or cheating?
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 01, 2021, 08:39:49 AM
PD, I would be interested to hear your view on the "toilet break" row. Not just tennis but all sport, are manoeuvres like this fair game or cheating?
Hi Irons,

Well, you asked for my totally inexpert opinions and knowledge of the rules, but I'll try!

This can give you some kind of idea as to the mixed views of the rules in tennis:  https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/bathroom-stall-tennis-toilet-break-talk-swirls-flush-79754222

Another article to give you some more food for thought:  https://africa.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/32120951/alexander-zverev-shares-frustration-fellow-tennis-star-stefano-tsitsipas-long-bathroom-breaks

Tuesday during pre-slam tennis commentary, the commentators (some of whom had been professional tennis players including grand slam champions) threw out this question to Dominic Thiem (a contemporary player in his early 20's who can't play at the US Open this year due to a wrist injury.  He's actually the defending champion as he won it last).  They all talked about it.  The general consensus was that 5 minutes would be a reasonable amount of time to change clothing and use the toilet if needed.  Mind you, from what I understand, the outer courts can be much further away from facilities....so, how do you figure out the time there?  Maybe once from when you arrive at the facilities?  Or allow a couple more minutes?

In any event, Murray (who I believe is currently on the players' council) said that they've been arguing about this for years.  My understanding is that according to the tennis rules they stipulate that a reasonable amount of time is allowed.  Player cannot receive any coaching during the break.  Men are given two breaks (since they play best 3/5 sets) and women get 1.  Players do get really "soggy" (particularly at the US Open which is normally very hot and very humid) and they do hydrate a lot.  The rules though as far as I understand it as to when they can take their breaks aren't the strictest....which I think is also a big part of the question.  Some players have been accused of deliberately taking their breaks right when their opponent is on a roll which then messes with the opponent's mindset and body.  And in these days of cell phones, how do you know if they aren't quietly texting their coach whilst they are changing too?

It does appear to me that it is often used as a way to find out a way to compose yourself and regroup--and often at the expense of your opponent and that they do need to get stricter with the time rules and also as to when you can take those breaks.  Perhaps also require the players to either check-in their cell phones and smart watches before the matches?  There have been gripes from some players too re medical timeouts being used to also buy some time, etc., but that's a much harder issue to debate (like how do you know how much pain someone is really experiencing?).

Thoughts from you Irons?

EDIT:  Checking a bit further into it, my initial thoughts that they were only allowed (at least at slams) to take bathroom breaks is after a set, which I believe is correct.  I had read another article which threw me whilst looking into this a bit further.  See page 20 & 21 here.  This is from the 2020 ITF rules book (the ITF deals with the slams).  https://www.itftennis.com/media/2495/grand-slam-rulebook-2020-f.pdf  My understanding is that it can vary between different events depending upon which organization is in charge.  They really need to standardize things!  My opinion anyway.

PD

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Post by: Irons on September 01, 2021, 10:33:40 PM
Hi Irons,

Well, you asked for my totally inexpert opinions and knowledge of the rules, but I'll try!

This can give you some kind of idea as to the mixed views of the rules in tennis:  https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/bathroom-stall-tennis-toilet-break-talk-swirls-flush-79754222

Another article to give you some more food for thought:  https://africa.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/32120951/alexander-zverev-shares-frustration-fellow-tennis-star-stefano-tsitsipas-long-bathroom-breaks

Tuesday during pre-slam tennis commentary, the commentators (some of whom had been professional tennis players including grand slam champions) threw out this question to Dominic Thiem (a contemporary player in his early 20's who can't play at the US Open this year due to a wrist injury.  He's actually the defending champion as he won it last).  They all talked about it.  The general consensus was that 5 minutes would be a reasonable amount of time to change clothing and use the toilet if needed.  Mind you, from what I understand, the outer courts can be much further away from facilities....so, how do you figure out the time there?  Maybe once from when you arrive at the facilities?  Or allow a couple more minutes?

In any event, Murray (who I believe is currently on the players' council) said that they've been arguing about this for years.  My understanding is that according to the tennis rules they stipulate that a reasonable amount of time is allowed.  Player cannot receive any coaching during the break.  Men are given two breaks (since they play best 3/5 sets) and women get 1.  Players do get really "soggy" (particularly at the US Open which is normally very hot and very humid) and they do hydrate a lot.  The rules though as far as I understand it as to when they can take their breaks aren't the strictest....which I think is also a big part of the question.  Some players have been accused of deliberately taking their breaks right when their opponent is on a roll which then messes with the opponent's mindset and body.  And in these days of cell phones, how do you know if they aren't quietly texting their coach whilst they are changing too?

It does appear to me that it is often used as a way to find out a way to compose yourself and regroup--and often at the expense of your opponent and that they do need to get stricter with the time rules and also as to when you can take those breaks.  Perhaps also require the players to either check-in their cell phones and smart watches before the matches?  There have been gripes from some players too re medical timeouts being used to also buy some time, etc., but that's a much harder issue to debate (like how do you know how much pain someone is really experiencing?).

Thoughts from you Irons?

EDIT:  Checking a bit further into it, my initial thoughts that they were only allowed (at least at slams) to take bathroom breaks is after a set, which I believe is correct.  I had read another article which threw me whilst looking into this a bit further.  See page 20 & 21 here.  This is from the 2020 ITF rules book (the ITF deals with the slams).  https://www.itftennis.com/media/2495/grand-slam-rulebook-2020-f.pdf  My understanding is that it can vary between different events depending upon which organization is in charge.  They really need to standardize things!  My opinion anyway.

PD

Looks pretty expert to me, PD. :) "Contacting the coach during the match" I had not thought of that.
You have summed it up perfectly. I know Murray was upset but he lost a long hard match so he would be anyway. Cynic I am, I have two thoughts. It is perfectly possible to follow the rules and cheat at the same time. If Tsitsipas didn't take a leak then that is abusing the rule book not following it - of course we will never know which.
Secondly, In my experience, I played a lot of Squash in my younger days, the last thing a body needs during strenuous exercise is the toilet!
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 02, 2021, 01:45:43 AM
Looks pretty expert to me, PD. :) "Contacting the coach during the match" I had not thought of that.
You have summed it up perfectly. I know Murray was upset but he lost a long hard match so he would be anyway. Cynic I am, I have two thoughts. It is perfectly possible to follow the rules and cheat at the same time. If Tsitsipas didn't take a leak then that is abusing the rule book not following it - of course we will never know which.
Secondly, In my experience, I played a lot of Squash in my younger days, the last thing a body needs during strenuous exercise is the toilet!
Perhaps I'm not following you Irons?  The ITF (International Tennis Federation) states that "A player may request permission to leave the court for a reasonable time for a toilet break, a change of attire break, or both, but for no other reason."  Tsitsipas certainly did change at least some of his clothes (didn't study things that hard!) and wasn't in there for like 20 minutes (unlike some of the protestations), so as far as anyone knows, he didn't break any rules.  And, to be fair to him, he's not the only one who has used the available rules to possibly help him more than was intended to.  You should check out a couple of tweets by *Tracy Austin (see August 31st):  https://twitter.com/thetracyaustin  She has some great ideas!  :)

They can easily get really drenched playing on court.  Murray was having some problems because he had only brought one pair of sneakers and they got drenched.  He actually fell on court slipping on his own sweat!  That upset him too.  Not saying that you didn't work up a sweat playing squash.   ;)  I suspect that in your day, you probably also weren't drinking as much water and specialized sports drinks as they do these days?  I've seen players go through muscle cramping and it looks so incredibly painful.  My understanding is that it's a combo of fitness and being able to stay hydrated.  Some of the men's matches have gone for up to five hours!  That's a lot of constant running around and with very short breaks.

*What do you think of her suggestions?  :)

PD

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Post by: Irons on September 02, 2021, 06:10:20 AM
Perhaps I'm not following you Irons?  The ITF (International Tennis Federation) states that "A player may request permission to leave the court for a reasonable time for a toilet break, a change of attire break, or both, but for no other reason."  Tsitsipas certainly did change at least some of his clothes (didn't study things that hard!) and wasn't in there for like 20 minutes (unlike some of the protestations), so as far as anyone knows, he didn't break any rules.  And, to be fair to him, he's not the only one who has used the available rules to possibly help him more than was intended to.  You should check out a couple of tweets by *Tracy Austin (see August 31st):  https://twitter.com/thetracyaustin  She has some great ideas!  :)

They can easily get really drenched playing on court.  Murray was having some problems because he had only brought one pair of sneakers and they got drenched.  He actually fell on court slipping on his own sweat!  That upset him too.  Not saying that you didn't work up a sweat playing squash.   ;)  I suspect that in your day, you probably also weren't drinking as much water and specialized sports drinks as they do these days?  I've seen players go through muscle cramping and it looks so incredibly painful.  My understanding is that it's a combo of fitness and being able to stay hydrated.  Some of the men's matches have gone for up to five hours!  That's a lot of constant running around and with very short breaks.

*What do you think of her suggestions?  :)

PD

Your knowledge of the sport is much greater then mine, PD. As you well know I don't carry a torch for Andy Murray. But he has not struck me as the type who cries foul over the years when losing a match. I think maybe you are not following me as my point is not that the other guy is not following the rules, he plainly is. But is he bending the rules for his own advantage. Timing is all, is a change of shorts necessary or by interrupting the match is advantage gained? You watched the match, I didn't. What do you think?
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 02, 2021, 06:34:29 AM
Your knowledge of the sport is much greater then mine, PD. As you well know I don't carry a torch for Andy Murray. But he has not struck me as the type who cries foul over the years when losing a match. I think maybe you are not following me as my point is not that the other guy is not following the rules, he plainly is. But is he bending the rules for his own advantage. Timing is all, is a change of shorts necessary or by interrupting the match is advantage gained? You watched the match, I didn't. What do you think?
O.k., I thought that I was following you, but wasn't totally certain about what you had meant which is why I brought up the fact that one can leave the court for either a bathroom break or to change clothes or both.  And also that unlike Andy saying (to the effect) that he was gone for 20 minutes that it was much shorter amount of a time--though again, I still think too long of a time.  Yes, I do think that he (Tsitsipas) was taking advantage of the rules.  Did you read those two Twitter postings on Tracy Austin's Twitter account that I had provided a link to Irons?  Thought that her comments/suggestions were on the money.  Her first one on August 31, 2021:  "Solution for lengthy bathroom breaks needs to be addressed.1. Give sliding hard time limit depending on distance to bathroom. Main court-outside court? 2. Not back in time-point penalty or opponent gets to talk to coach in the overtime. That should curb excessive timeout."

Her second tweet in which she was replying to someone (see below):  "I dislike on-court coaching as has been documented.But threat of coaching might be only way to curb LONG,”change of momentum”, “gather my thoughts”timeouts. Offending player might think twice going overtime.Bathroom,change of attire legal-it’s repeat offenders who make it problem
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Chris Gollop
@ChrisRGollop
 · Aug 31
Replying to @thetracyaustin
Really interesting proposal, introducing the option of the waiting player on court being allowed to engage with their coach until the absent player returns. Still not ideal as don’t like idea of on court coaching as such, but worth a discussion. 8 minutes?! Bad look for tennis.Slightly frowning face

As far as Tracy Austin goes (if her name isn't familiar to you), as she describes herself on Twitter:  "Former world #1, 2-time US Open Champion, Broadcaster, Proud mom of 3 boys.  Instagram: tracyaustin_"

Personally, I think that one of the biggest issues is that they need to come up with time limits and figure out ways of deterring people who are taking advantage of the rules...which, as Andy had mentioned in his post-match interview is something that they've been talking about for a long time.   ::)

So, wonder whether or not your Raducanu is still in the mix?  I believe so!  :)

PD

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Post by: Irons on September 02, 2021, 11:22:46 PM
O.k., I thought that I was following you, but wasn't totally certain about what you had meant which is why I brought up the fact that one can leave the court for either a bathroom break or to change clothes or both.  And also that unlike Andy saying (to the effect) that he was gone for 20 minutes that it was much shorter amount of a time--though again, I still think too long of a time.  Yes, I do think that he (Tsitsipas) was taking advantage of the rules.  Did you read those two Twitter postings on Tracy Austin's Twitter account that I had provided a link to Irons?  Thought that her comments/suggestions were on the money.  Her first one on August 31, 2021:  "Solution for lengthy bathroom breaks needs to be addressed.1. Give sliding hard time limit depending on distance to bathroom. Main court-outside court? 2. Not back in time-point penalty or opponent gets to talk to coach in the overtime. That should curb excessive timeout."

Her second tweet in which she was replying to someone (see below):  "I dislike on-court coaching as has been documented.But threat of coaching might be only way to curb LONG,”change of momentum”, “gather my thoughts”timeouts. Offending player might think twice going overtime.Bathroom,change of attire legal-it’s repeat offenders who make it problem
Quote Tweet

Chris Gollop
@ChrisRGollop
 · Aug 31
Replying to @thetracyaustin
Really interesting proposal, introducing the option of the waiting player on court being allowed to engage with their coach until the absent player returns. Still not ideal as don’t like idea of on court coaching as such, but worth a discussion. 8 minutes?! Bad look for tennis.Slightly frowning face

As far as Tracy Austin goes (if her name isn't familiar to you), as she describes herself on Twitter:  "Former world #1, 2-time US Open Champion, Broadcaster, Proud mom of 3 boys.  Instagram: tracyaustin_"

Personally, I think that one of the biggest issues is that they need to come up with time limits and figure out ways of deterring people who are taking advantage of the rules...which, as Andy had mentioned in his post-match interview is something that they've been talking about for a long time.   ::)

So, wonder whether or not your Raducanu is still in the mix?  I believe so!  :)

PD

I did not make myself clear, PD. My thinking on this is more on general terms not this particular tennis match. My question is was Murray's opponent following the letter of the law but not the spirit of the law. I think it was this that annoyed Murray so much. Looking from afar I get the impression there is a good level of sportsmanship in professional tennis. Perhaps in this case Tsitspas didn't show it.   

Happens in all sport. If a footballer is fouled in the penalty box, invariably if he stays on his feet a penalty is not given and if he goes down it is. The stage has been reached when players fling themselves to the floor without being fouled and players who are manage to stay on their feet are roundly criticised. 
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 03, 2021, 02:09:45 AM
I did not make myself clear, PD. My thinking on this is more on general terms not this particular tennis match. My question is was Murray's opponent following the letter of the law but not the spirit of the law. I think it was this that annoyed Murray so much. Looking from afar I get the impression there is a good level of sportsmanship in professional tennis. Perhaps in this case Tsitspas didn't show it.   

Happens in all sport. If a footballer is fouled in the penalty box, invariably if he stays on his feet a penalty is not given and if he goes down it is. The stage has been reached when players fling themselves to the floor without being fouled and players who are manage to stay on their feet are roundly criticised.
Yes, I think that he was not following the spirit of the law.  Andy, obviously, thought that too which was why he kept asking the chair umpire during the match what he thought about the extended break and if he thought that it was right.  Also, his comments in the post-match press interview about how he had lost respect for Tsitsipas.

I do think that there are ways to curb the abuse of the spirit of the law though as I mentioned previously.

Regarding football, yes I've seen some footage of the diving and arguments by the commentators over whether or not they thought that a penalty should have been given out, etc.  Sadly, there will always be those who will try and abuse the system.   >:( :(

Speaking of abuse, I felt for Novak.  I didn't manage to catch his match last night, but looking at the news this morning, it seems that he was repeatedly heckled for a time during his match against the Dutchman Griekspoor.  At 4-2 in the second set (He, Novak, had won the first set and was ahead in the second) and he was just about to hit an overhead smash when someone called out (which threw him off and he missed the shot and ended up losing that game).  This person (a man) apparently did that repeatedly whenever Novak was playing at the spectator's end of the court.  Eventually, Novak had had enough of it and complained to the chair umpire to say something to the crowd.  Tennis is such an individual sport and that spectator was purposefully trying to distract him by calling out just before he was going to make contact with the ball.  I'm rather surprised that they didn't escort the spectator out.  He apparently shut up after being addressed by the umpire.  The players are used to the crowd making noises, but deliberately trying to hinder a player is a big "No-No".  I might be able to catch some of the repeat showing of the match this morning.

Great Britain's Raducanu and Evans are still alive and into Round 3.   :)

PD
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Post by: Irons on September 03, 2021, 06:08:48 AM
Yes, I think that he was not following the spirit of the law.  Andy, obviously, thought that too which was why he kept asking the chair umpire during the match what he thought about the extended break and if he thought that it was right.  Also, his comments in the post-match press interview about how he had lost respect for Tsitsipas.

I do think that there are ways to curb the abuse of the spirit of the law though as I mentioned previously.

Regarding football, yes I've seen some footage of the diving and arguments by the commentators over whether or not they thought that a penalty should have been given out, etc.  Sadly, there will always be those who will try and abuse the system.   >:( :(

Speaking of abuse, I felt for Novak.  I didn't manage to catch his match last night, but looking at the news this morning, it seems that he was repeatedly heckled for a time during his match against the Dutchman Griekspoor.  At 4-2 in the second set (He, Novak, had won the first set and was ahead in the second) and he was just about to hit an overhead smash when someone called out (which threw him off and he missed the shot and ended up losing that game).  This person (a man) apparently did that repeatedly whenever Novak was playing at the spectator's end of the court.  Eventually, Novak had had enough of it and complained to the chair umpire to say something to the crowd.  Tennis is such an individual sport and that spectator was purposefully trying to distract him by calling out just before he was going to make contact with the ball.  I'm rather surprised that they didn't escort the spectator out.  He apparently shut up after being addressed by the umpire.  The players are used to the crowd making noises, but deliberately trying to hinder a player is a big "No-No".  I might be able to catch some of the repeat showing of the match this morning.

Great Britain's Raducanu and Evans are still alive and into Round 3.   :)

PD

Not as bad as a *minority* of Hungarian fans making monkey noises at England's black footballers last night. :(

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16037524/england-knee-booed-hungary-sterling-bellingham-monkey-chants/
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 03, 2021, 08:23:16 AM
Not as bad as a *minority* of Hungarian fans making monkey noises at England's black footballers last night. :(

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16037524/england-knee-booed-hungary-sterling-bellingham-monkey-chants/
That's horrible!!!  Did they (the powers-that-be) do anything to the fans who were doing that?  Any ramifications for their conduct?

PD

p.s.  And I think that I might have been wrong (judging by what I saw and what the commentators were saying); it appears that the chair umpire did nothing regarding the spectator who was repeatedly trying to interfere with Novak's match.  I hope that I'm wrong there.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 05, 2021, 04:06:37 AM
Irons,

Your Raducanu and my Shelby Rogers will be playing each other in the Round of 16 (the fourth round) on Monday!

Shelby beat the No. 1 ranked Ash Barty last night (coming back from a 5-2 lead by her opponent in the third set to beat her in a tiebreak).  She had lost to Barty in her last four (and only) matches against her.

There was also another big upset two nights ago which you might have heard of:  the young 18-year old Spanish player Alcaraz won his biggest match against the No. 3 ranked Stefanos Tsitsipas!  That was one heck of a match!  It was a 5-setter too so will be interesting to see how he recovers.

Anyway, hope that you can watch the Raducanu vs. Rogers match.  :)

PD

p.s.  By the way, Shelby R. is the last American woman standing.  Also, your Dan Evans will be playing the No. 2 seed Daniil Medvedev today (sometime after noontime EST.  There's a woman's match before theirs which starts at noon here...so maybe starting around 2:30 EST?).
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Post by: Irons on September 05, 2021, 05:03:49 AM
Irons,

Your Raducanu and my Shelby Rogers will be playing each other in the Round of 16 (the fourth round) on Monday!

Shelby beat the No. 1 ranked Ash Barty last night (coming back from a 5-2 lead by her opponent in the third set to beat her in a tiebreak).  She had lost to Barty in her last four (and only) matches against her.

There was also another big upset two nights ago which you might have heard of:  the young 18-year old Spanish player Alcaraz won his biggest match against the No. 3 ranked Stefanos Tsitsipas!  That was one heck of a match!  It was a 5-setter too so will be interesting to see how he recovers.

Anyway, hope that you can watch the Raducanu vs. Rogers match.  :)

PD

p.s.  By the way, Shelby R. is the last American woman standing.  Also, your Dan Evans will be playing the No. 2 seed Daniil Medvedev today (sometime after noontime EST.  There's a woman's match before theirs which starts at noon here...so maybe starting around 2:30 EST?).

Dan Evans will be wipe out. Never heard of the guy - I have now. Lamb to slaughter methinks.

Pleased Tsitsipas got beat but not half as much as Murray.

Love to watch R v R match but not getting up in the middle of the night to do so. I know I can rely on you for an unbiased account of the action as you are a honorary Brit. ;) 
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 05, 2021, 05:29:14 AM

Love to watch R v R match but not getting up in the middle of the night to do so. I know I can rely on you for an unbiased account of the action as you are a honorary Brit. ;)

Well, they haven't announced the schedule lineup for tomorrow but tennis does start as early as 11 a.m. (looking at the tournament schedule for Monday).  As there is a five hour time difference between you and me, the ladies' match could start as early as 4 p.m. your time.   :)  Or possibly, if it's the last night match, you might be able to catch the end of it depending upon how early you get up.  If nothing else, I imagine that they will be showing highlights from the match (you can also check out the US Open page = https://2021.usopen.org  ).  Not that I'm trying to get you addicted to another sport!  :D

And regarding your second/third comments:  I am truly honored!  :laugh:  :)

In any event, I'll make a mental note to let you know the schedule and to give you a heads up (if at all possible when it's just about to start--I may be out running some quick errands).

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 06, 2021, 01:33:01 AM
Irons,

O.k., so here's the news (typing this early Monday morning, so pardon any typos):

First up at noon in Arthur Ashe Stadium will be Zverev vs. Sinner (men's match so it could go up to 5 sets).  Could go anywhere from 1 1/2 hours to 5.  I'm guessing about 3 hours....this is presuming that there is no retirement due to injury.

Next up (same court) will be Rogers vs. Raducanu.  Note:  their match is still part of the daytime session, so no need to usher out day crowd, have dinner break and then get in nighttime crowd.

So, noon is 5 p.m. your time--or should I say 1700 hours?  So, depending upon your evening plans and bedtime, there's a good chance that you could possibly watch some if not all of their match?  And remember that the women's is the best 2 out of 3 matches  whereas the men's is the best 3 out of 5.

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 07, 2021, 02:32:49 AM
Irons,

So did you--or anyone else here--watch the Raducanu vs. Rogers watch?  I had hoped that it would be a much better of a match than it was.  Shelby was just "flat" which often happens after a big victory in their previous match (She took out No. 1 ranked Ash Barty which was a huge win for her.  To give you an idea, going into the US Open, Shelby was ranked No. 55). 

*Raducanu overcame a shaky start and her confidence increased and her performance continually improved throughout the match whilst Rogers, sadly, was struggling making errors upon errors with some occasional glimmers as to how well she can play.  :(

In any event, Emma has much to be proud of.  Considering her very short WTA professional career, she's already made huge strides...came through the qualifying and is now into the quarter finals at the US Open.  :)  Well done to her!   :)  And good for her parents who apparently insisted that she finish at a normal school and not go diving into professional tennis straight away.

*Here are some of the stats from the WTA's website; they're much better at analyzing things than I am! lol

Stat corner: 150th-ranked Raducanu’s rise has come at the expense of numerous experienced, highly-ranked players: with her victory over World No.43 Rogers, she has earned her third straight win over a Top 50 player this week. She is now 5-0 against Top 50 opposition in her career.

Raducanu’s victories this week have also been straightforward: she has not dropped a set in any of her three victories in qualifying and her four main-draw wins. The British teen has dropped a mere 15 games in her four main-draw matches.

Against Rogers, Raducanu played her powerful game with precision, out-winnering hard-hitting Rogers by 18 to 14, while also keeping her unforced error count low, with just 14 miscues. Rogers, on the other hand, was undone by 29 unforced errors.

Raducanu was also rampant on return, claiming 61 percent of points off of the Rogers service. That allowed her to convert five of her nine break points in the affair, booking a place in the first Tour-level quarterfinal of her career.


PD

EDIT:  Catching some of the (repeat) match of the 20 year old Jenson Brooksby vs. Novak; seriously impressed by this young man!  Took the opening set 6-1 and gave Novak a serious run in the second (haven't watched any of the other sets...at least yet) battling back again and again as in "Advantage Djokovic"/back to 40-40/"Advantage Brooksby", etc.  :)  I'd heard talk of him before by the commentators, but hadn't seen him ever play.  I'm expecting to see great things from him.  Currently ranked No. 99 but that doesn't include the results from him for this week.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Irons on September 07, 2021, 06:10:44 AM
Irons,

So did you--or anyone else here--watch the Raducanu vs. Rogers watch?  I had hoped that it would be a much better of a match than it was.  Shelby was just "flat" which often happens after a big victory in their previous match (She took out No. 1 ranked Ash Barty which was a huge win for her.  To give you an idea, going into the US Open, Shelby was ranked No. 55). 

*Raducanu overcame a shaky start and her confidence increased and her performance continually improved throughout the match whilst Rogers, sadly, was struggling making errors upon errors with some occasional glimmers as to how well she can play.  :(

In any event, Emma has much to be proud of.  Considering her very short WTA professional career, she's already made huge strides...came through the qualifying and is now into the quarter finals at the US Open.  :)  Well done to her!   :)  And good for her parents who apparently insisted that she finish at a normal school and not go diving into professional tennis straight away.

*Here are some of the stats from the WTA's website; they're much better at analyzing things than I am! lol

Stat corner: 150th-ranked Raducanu’s rise has come at the expense of numerous experienced, highly-ranked players: with her victory over World No.43 Rogers, she has earned her third straight win over a Top 50 player this week. She is now 5-0 against Top 50 opposition in her career.

Raducanu’s victories this week have also been straightforward: she has not dropped a set in any of her three victories in qualifying and her four main-draw wins. The British teen has dropped a mere 15 games in her four main-draw matches.

Against Rogers, Raducanu played her powerful game with precision, out-winnering hard-hitting Rogers by 18 to 14, while also keeping her unforced error count low, with just 14 miscues. Rogers, on the other hand, was undone by 29 unforced errors.

Raducanu was also rampant on return, claiming 61 percent of points off of the Rogers service. That allowed her to convert five of her nine break points in the affair, booking a place in the first Tour-level quarterfinal of her career.


PD

EDIT:  Catching some of the (repeat) match of the 20 year old Jenson Brooksby vs. Novak; seriously impressed by this young man!  Took the opening set 6-1 and gave Novak a serious run in the second (haven't watched any of the other sets...at least yet) battling back again and again as in "Advantage Djokovic"/back to 40-40/"Advantage Brooksby", etc.  :)  I'd heard talk of him before by the commentators, but hadn't seen him ever play.  I'm expecting to see great things from him.  Currently ranked No. 99 but that doesn't include the results from him for this week.

Sadly not, PD. No live feed here in the UK, or none that I could find. Watched highlights on YT and to quote 'Del boy' "the world is her lobster". We are so useless at tennis when someone comes along like Raducanu..... that young lady is going to make an awful lot of money.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 07, 2021, 06:30:30 AM
Sadly not, PD. No live feed here in the UK, or none that I could find. Watched highlights on YT and to quote 'Del boy' "the world is her lobster". We are so useless at tennis when someone comes along like Raducanu..... that young lady is going to make an awful lot of money.
Well, I was feeling badly that I had wasted your time!  ;)

And, not true, you've had and have some exceptional tennis players in the UK!  And thanks to efforts by people like Judy Murray (particularly in Scotland) more kids are getting interested in playing tennis.

We have been struggling here in the US with getting the next round of exceptional tennis players.  Been ages since an American male has won the US Open (Andy Roddick was the last one to have done so).  Also trying to help raise the next generation of female tennis players not named *Williams.  Things are looking better here though that said, this is the first time in ages that (apparently) we haven't had an American man into the quarter finals at the US Open!  :(  Feeling better though seeing players like Frances Tiafoe and Jenson Brooksby progressing nicely.  Coco Gauff has also been playing amazingly well--particularly for one so young.  She and her partner McNally are still alive and playing in the women's doubles at the Open.  I'm sure that there are others that I don't know about (particularly in the juniors).

By the way, your Raducanu will next be playing the Swiss Belinda Bencic.  Bencic won the gold medal in singles this year and also had the honor of playing with Roger F. a couple of years ago in the Laver Cup.   :)  I suspect that this will be a good match!

*Though look out for Olympia when she gets older!  Her mama and "current coach" is Serena.  ;D

PD
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Post by: Irons on September 08, 2021, 05:50:47 AM
Well, I was feeling badly that I had wasted your time!  ;)

And, not true, you've had and have some exceptional tennis players in the UK!  And thanks to efforts by people like Judy Murray (particularly in Scotland) more kids are getting interested in playing tennis.

We have been struggling here in the US with getting the next round of exceptional tennis players.  Been ages since an American male has won the US Open (Andy Roddick was the last one to have done so).  Also trying to help raise the next generation of female tennis players not named *Williams.  Things are looking better here though that said, this is the first time in ages that (apparently) we haven't had an American man into the quarter finals at the US Open!  :(  Feeling better though seeing players like Frances Tiafoe and Jenson Brooksby progressing nicely.  Coco Gauff has also been playing amazingly well--particularly for one so young.  She and her partner McNally are still alive and playing in the women's doubles at the Open.  I'm sure that there are others that I don't know about (particularly in the juniors).

By the way, your Raducanu will next be playing the Swiss Belinda Bencic.  Bencic won the gold medal in singles this year and also had the honor of playing with Roger F. a couple of years ago in the Laver Cup.   :)  I suspect that this will be a good match!

*Though look out for Olympia when she gets older!  Her mama and "current coach" is Serena.  ;D

PD

Andy Murray was the first Brit to win Wimbledon (men's) since Fred Perry (the men played in long trousers then I believe). Considering our tournament not exactly a rollcall of honour. :(

The UK newspapers are all over Raducanu this morning. Mine did make the point that Rogers "froze" which is similar to the point you made, PD. I think Raducanu will go out in the next round, which going by the experiences of past young "shooting stars" of the past will be no bad thing. Give her a couple of years and she may win Wimbledon. Too much too soon is a worry.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 08, 2021, 06:19:04 AM
Andy Murray was the first Brit to win Wimbledon (men's) since Fred Perry (the men played in long trousers then I believe). Considering our tournament not exactly a rollcall of honour. :(

The UK newspapers are all over Raducanu this morning. Mine did make the point that Rogers "froze" which is similar to the point you made, PD. I think Raducanu will go out in the next round, which going by the experiences of past young "shooting stars" of the past will be no bad thing. Give her a couple of years and she may win Wimbledon. Too much too soon is a worry.
Tim Henman made a good run though (semi-finals).  Dan Evans made it into the top 50 and after some errr..."setbacks" has climbed his way back up there again (currently ranked No. 27).  https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/dan-evans-cocaine-drugs-test-turning-career-around-bad-boy-never-stopped-a7805766.html  Konta has also won some tournaments...think that Watson has too?  Don't know about Robson.

Jamie Murray has won a number of doubles tournaments, ranking No. 1 in doubles at one time:  He along with his partner(s?) have won the Australian and the US Opens and was the finalist at Wimbledon and quarter-finalist twice at the French Open.  By the way, his brother Andy, has also won the Olympic gold medal in singles--twice!

As a nice aside, Virginia Wade went to the US Open this year and watched Raducanu play.  What an honor!  Raducanu was thrilled!  :)

Anyway, I hope that today's match will be a good one (starting in about 45 minutes).

PD
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Post by: Irons on September 08, 2021, 10:36:15 PM
Tim Henman made a good run though (semi-finals).  Dan Evans made it into the top 50 and after some errr..."setbacks" has climbed his way back up there again (currently ranked No. 27).  https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/dan-evans-cocaine-drugs-test-turning-career-around-bad-boy-never-stopped-a7805766.html  Konta has also won some tournaments...think that Watson has too?  Don't know about Robson.

Jamie Murray has won a number of doubles tournaments, ranking No. 1 in doubles at one time:  He along with his partner(s?) have won the Australian and the US Opens and was the finalist at Wimbledon and quarter-finalist twice at the French Open.  By the way, his brother Andy, has also won the Olympic gold medal in singles--twice!

As a nice aside, Virginia Wade went to the US Open this year and watched Raducanu play.  What an honor!  Raducanu was thrilled!  :)

Anyway, I hope that today's match will be a good one (starting in about 45 minutes).

PD

I read that Virginia Wade now lives in Long Island.

Here in the UK, Raducanu's matches are shown on Amazon Prime I discover.
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 09, 2021, 02:14:46 AM
I read that Virginia Wade now lives in Long Island.

Here in the UK, Raducanu's matches are shown on Amazon Prime I discover.
Apparently.  I saw a couple of nice interviews with her online.  It seems that initially she ended up in Manhattan (wanting to avoid high British tax rates and also wanting to live a more low-key lifestyle after she became a celebrity in her home country).  There's a fun Q & A with her here that you might enjoy:  https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/24/virginia-wade-interview.

*Great job by Emma yesterday!  Amazing that she is now into the semi-finals.  She's now the first person ever (male or female) to have come through the qualies and make it that far at the US Open.  It would be quite something if the two teenagers made it into the final (the other is the Canadian L. Fernandez).  Are you able to watch Amazon prime?  I don't have that here, but can watch it either live on ESPN or repeated next day on the Tennis Channel (though I can't chose which courts I want to watch).

Meanwhile, I'm happy to see that the awesome team of Coco Gauff and Caty McNally are into the women's doubles' semi-finals.  You might have heard of Coco before.  She's the young American (17) who has been making decent runs at the slams and also has already won a few tournaments:  2 singles titles and 3 doubles titles (all with McNally).

*I'll bet that pictures of her are plastered all over the UK papers today?  Heaven help her if she wins the US Open!  ;D

PD
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 10, 2021, 02:18:38 AM
Boy, exciting news at the US Open!  Both Raducanu and Fernandez made it through their respective semi-finals, so it will be the battle of the teenagers (Raducanu, aged 18 and Fernandez who just turned 19 a few days ago).  Both of them have been playing absolutely amazing tennis these past two weeks.  Hoping for a great women's singles' final.   :)

PD
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Post by: vandermolen on September 10, 2021, 02:36:07 AM
Yes, it was the main item on the news here today. Let's hope that it's not a case of hubris followed by nemesis (from the UK point of view).
 :)
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Post by: OrchestralNut on September 10, 2021, 02:40:01 AM
Boy, exciting news at the US Open!  Both Raducanu and Fernandez made it through their respective semi-finals, so it will be the battle of the teenagers (Raducanu, aged 18 and Fernandez who just turned 19 a few days ago).  Both of them have been playing absolutely amazing tennis these past two weeks.  Hoping for a great women's singles' final.   :)

PD

Can't wait! Both of these young women are so impressive. Resilient, tenacious, and extremely calm under pressure.

Although I am rooting for Fernandez because she is Canadian, Raducanu was born in Canada. A win-win for me.

Hard to actually say who might win this one the way both have been playing.
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Post by: Roasted Swan on September 10, 2021, 02:43:03 AM
Can't wait! Both of these young women are so impressive. Resilient, tenacious, and extremely calm under pressure.

Although I am rooting for Fernandez because she is Canadian, Raducanu was born in Canada. A win-win for me.

Hard to actually say who might win this one the way both have been playing.

I hope hope hope that they are BOTH able to maintain the free-spirited JOY in their playing that they have at the moment.  SO sad reading Osaka's comments of simply being sad if she lost and relieved if she won.  To have such talent but feel such a burden must be awful.......
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Post by: OrchestralNut on September 10, 2021, 02:46:29 AM
I hope hope hope that they are BOTH able to maintain the free-spirited JOY in their playing that they have at the moment.  SO sad reading Osaka's comments of simply being sad if she lost and relieved if she won.  To have such talent but feel such a burden must be awful.......

It is great to see the joy and passion they are both exhibiting and they have certainly become crowd favourites.

Yes, once you are at the top, things change. It becomes an expectation.
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Post by: Roasted Swan on September 10, 2021, 02:49:40 AM
It is great to see the joy and passion they are both exhibiting and they have certainly become crowd favourites.

Yes, once you are at the top, things change. It becomes an expectation.

Just so - no doubt some strange folk have already started having a troll of both of them.....
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 10, 2021, 02:58:39 AM
I hope hope hope that they are BOTH able to maintain the free-spirited JOY in their playing that they have at the moment.  SO sad reading Osaka's comments of simply being sad if she lost and relieved if she won.  To have such talent but feel such a burden must be awful.......
Yes, I feel for her (Osaka) and hope that she is able to find joy again in playing tennis.

Will they be showing the final in the UK in such a way so that one wouldn't have to pay for a premium service in order to watch it?  And what about in Canada?  We used to be able to watch the US Open with just a basic t.v. subscription--really back when there were just three main networks; all you needed was electricity and a t.v. antenna.  Then things started changing so that ESPN bought the rights to most of the matches though the later ones you  could watch on good ole NBC--for a basic subscription.  Nowadays, you have to pay extra for ESPN to watch it from Round 1 (repeats being shown on the Tennis Channel--another premium package).   :(

PD
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Post by: Roasted Swan on September 10, 2021, 03:12:35 AM
Yes, I feel for her (Osaka) and hope that she is able to find joy again in playing tennis.

Will they be showing the final in the UK in such a way so that one wouldn't have to pay for a premium service in order to watch it?  And what about in Canada?  We used to be able to watch the US Open with just a basic t.v. subscription--really back when there were just three main networks; all you needed was electricity and a t.v. antenna.  Then things started changing so that ESPN bought the rights to most of the matches though the later ones you  could watch on good ole NBC--for a basic subscription.  Nowadays, you have to pay extra for ESPN to watch it from Round 1 (repeats being shown on the Tennis Channel--another premium package).   :(

PD

I think the BBC will show free-to-air highlights and the whole US Open is on Amazon Prime which I have for the music/delivery options so in that sense it almost feels like a "free" option (self-deluding I know!)
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Post by: OrchestralNut on September 10, 2021, 03:13:14 AM
Yes, I feel for her (Osaka) and hope that she is able to find joy again in playing tennis.

Will they be showing the final in the UK in such a way so that one wouldn't have to pay for a premium service in order to watch it?  And what about in Canada?  We used to be able to watch the US Open with just a basic t.v. subscription--really back when there were just three main networks; all you needed was electricity and a t.v. antenna.  Then things started changing so that ESPN bought the rights to most of the matches though the later ones you  could watch on good ole NBC--for a basic subscription.  Nowadays, you have to pay extra for ESPN to watch it from Round 1 (repeats being shown on the Tennis Channel--another premium package).   :(

PD

I do have a cable subscription, so am able to watch it on TSN (a Canadian sports cable channel).
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Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 10, 2021, 03:51:23 AM
Oh, good, RS and ON!

Looking at the US Open website, it looks like the women's singles' final is scheduled for 4 p.m. EST on Saturday.  So, hopefully it won't be past most people's bedtimes in the U.K.

The men's final on Sunday could be a good one, but semis first tonight.  Novak is going for a calendar slam record and so far has been playing really well.  Can anyone stop him?   :-\  I suspect not, but we'll find out soon!

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 10, 2021, 07:17:20 AM
Sadly not, PD. No live feed here in the UK, or none that I could find. Watched highlights on YT and to quote 'Del boy' "the world is her lobster". We are so useless at tennis when someone comes along like Raducanu..... that young lady is going to make an awful lot of money.
You might find this to be of interest Irons:  https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58508806  By the way, the winner of the women's singles' final gets $2,500,000 and the finalist:  $1,250,000.  Not too shabby!

By the way, it appears that you will be able to watch an hour long highlights of the match on Sunday.  Here's the gist of it from the BBC website:

"The match, which is due to start at 21:00 BST on Saturday, 11 September, will be live on BBC Radio 5 Live, with video clips of the match available afterwards on the BBC Sport website and app.

On Sunday afternoon BBC One will broadcast an hour-long highlights programme of the final from 13:45 BST.

Raducanu, 18, extended her dream run in New York with a 6-1 6-4 semi-final victory over Greek 17th seed Maria Sakkari in the early hours of Friday.

There is no planned live network TV coverage in the UK of the US Open. The tournament is being broadcast live by Amazon through its Amazon Prime Video streaming app available on connected TVs and mobile devices. You need a subscription to access the service, which starts at £5.99.

The BBC TV coverage will also be available to watch through BBC iPlayer, while the live radio commentary will also be on BBC Sounds and the BBC Sport website and app, which will also have live text commentary and in-depth coverage of the match.
"

PD

p.s.  They (ESPN) is currently showing the men's doubles' final live:  Jamie Murray and Bruno Suares vs. the US's R. Ram and another British player named Salisbury.  You guys are everywhere!  The winning team gets $660,000 and the runners up $330,000.  Fingers crossed for Coco and Caty to make it to the women's doubles' final and to win it!  :)
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Irons on September 10, 2021, 07:58:28 AM
You might find this to be of interest Irons:  https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58508806  By the way, the winner of the women's singles' final gets $2,500,000 and the finalist:  $1,250,000.  Not too shabby!

By the way, it appears that you will be able to watch an hour long highlights of the match on Sunday.  Here's the gist of it from the BBC website:

"The match, which is due to start at 21:00 BST on Saturday, 11 September, will be live on BBC Radio 5 Live, with video clips of the match available afterwards on the BBC Sport website and app.

On Sunday afternoon BBC One will broadcast an hour-long highlights programme of the final from 13:45 BST.

Raducanu, 18, extended her dream run in New York with a 6-1 6-4 semi-final victory over Greek 17th seed Maria Sakkari in the early hours of Friday.

There is no planned live network TV coverage in the UK of the US Open. The tournament is being broadcast live by Amazon through its Amazon Prime Video streaming app available on connected TVs and mobile devices. You need a subscription to access the service, which starts at £5.99.

The BBC TV coverage will also be available to watch through BBC iPlayer, while the live radio commentary will also be on BBC Sounds and the BBC Sport website and app, which will also have live text commentary and in-depth coverage of the match.
"

PD

p.s.  They (ESPN) is currently showing the men's doubles' final live:  Jamie Murray and Bruno Suares vs. the US's R. Ram and another British player named Salisbury.  You guys are everywhere!  The winning team gets $660,000 and the runners up $330,000.  Fingers crossed for Coco and Caty to make it to the women's doubles' final and to win it!  :)

I had a plan. Knowing the Ladies semi kicks off when snuggled up in bed, hit the remote at 6.30 am and watch the match unaware of the result. Something I have done many times with boxing held in the US. To get to Amazon Prime, the TV has to be switched on! My plan was dust as the BBC studios which happened to be on were in raptures by Radacanu's victory. Oh well.

I must say although a lover of all sport, tennis is not top of the list but what this young lady has achieved is remarkable. I think the whole nation and possibly America too has fallen in love with her. It feels me with pride that she is British and more so, not less, that her father is Romanian and her mother Chinese which is a true reflection of modern cosmopolitan Britain.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 10, 2021, 08:35:21 AM
I had a plan. Knowing the Ladies semi kicks off when snuggled up in bed, hit the remote at 6.30 am and watch the match unaware of the result. Something I have done many times with boxing held in the US. To get to Amazon Prime, the TV has to be switched on! My plan was dust as the BBC studios which happened to be on were in raptures by Radacanu's victory. Oh well.

I must say although a lover of all sport, tennis is not top of the list but what this young lady has achieved is remarkable. I think the whole nation and possibly America too has fallen in love with her. It feels me with pride that she is British and more so, not less, that her father is Romanian and her mother Chinese which is a true reflection of modern cosmopolitan Britain.
Augh!  Sorry that your surprise was spoiled Irons!  I've had that happen to me before.  Skipped watching the Australian men's final thinking that I'd catch the repeat in the morning; however, I stupidly turned on my kitchen radio which is tuned to an NPR station.  "....and so and so won the Australian Open"....urgh!!!  >:(  My stupidity!

Sorry to read that Raducanu's parents won't be there for the final.  Apparently, they would need to get a special waver--which, it seems, takes several weeks to get (couldn't somebody in high places try to make this happen?  Or maybe a lot of Covid testing and quarantining is involved?).   Such a shame that they can't be there.  :(  And, yes, it's neat to read their different stories.   :) I read the other day that Leylah Fernandez's father was originally from Ecuador and was a former professional football player.  Her mother is a Canadian citizen of Filipino descent.  And her younger sister is also a tennis player too.  Leylah, like a lot of tennis players, resides elsewhere--apparently currently in Boynton Beach, Florida.  It's a small world!  :)

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Irons on September 10, 2021, 11:14:29 PM
Augh!  Sorry that your surprise was spoiled Irons!  I've had that happen to me before.  Skipped watching the Australian men's final thinking that I'd catch the repeat in the morning; however, I stupidly turned on my kitchen radio which is tuned to an NPR station.  "....and so and so won the Australian Open"....urgh!!!  >:(  My stupidity!

Sorry to read that Raducanu's parents won't be there for the final.  Apparently, they would need to get a special waver--which, it seems, takes several weeks to get (couldn't somebody in high places try to make this happen?  Or maybe a lot of Covid testing and quarantining is involved?).   Such a shame that they can't be there.  :(  And, yes, it's neat to read their different stories.   :) I read the other day that Leylah Fernandez's father was originally from Ecuador and was a former professional football player.  Her mother is a Canadian citizen of Filipino descent.  And her younger sister is also a tennis player too.  Leylah, like a lot of tennis players, resides elsewhere--apparently currently in Boynton Beach, Florida.  It's a small world!  :)

PD

Yes so many similarities between the two girls and Fernandez was lowly ranked too. The Finale is a massive shot in the arm for Ladies Tennis.

Amazon Prime has struck gold - not that they needed to! They are showing the match live at peak viewing time, 9pm.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 11, 2021, 01:32:04 AM
Yes so many similarities between the two girls and Fernandez was lowly ranked too. The Finale is a massive shot in the arm for Ladies Tennis.

Amazon Prime has struck gold - not that they needed to! They are showing the match live at peak viewing time, 9pm.
Cool!  Will you be watching it?  Or is that getting a bit late for you?  I've been getting up earlier this past summer (though overslept today!)...which means that I don't last so late into the evenings.  At least it will be on during afternoon here.

By the way, Rajeev Ram (who is a doubles player veteran--and also an American) and UK's Joe Salisbury won the men's doubles yesterday.  :)

So, you're into boxing?  Did you ever train/compete in it yourself Irons?

PD
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Post by: Papy Oli on September 11, 2021, 01:34:53 AM
One for the Brits: the Raducanu final will also be shown live on Channel 4 from 8pm.

Just read on my twitter feed that C4 made a deal with Amazon, I have checked the schedule on the TV guide and it is indeed listed. 
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 11, 2021, 01:38:21 AM
One for the Brits: the Raducanu final will also be shown live on Channel 4 from 8pm.

Just read on my twitter feed that C4 made a deal with Amazon, I have checked the schedule on the TV guide and it is indeed listed.
Excellent!  I had a strong feeling that they would find a way to show it live on the BBC.  Happy for you all!

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 11, 2021, 08:46:42 AM
One for the Brits: the Raducanu final will also be shown live on Channel 4 from 8pm.

Just read on my twitter feed that C4 made a deal with Amazon, I have checked the schedule on the TV guide and it is indeed listed.
Just ran across this article.  Wonder whether or not the figures are correct?  If so, wow!  This is from MSN.com website:

'Channel 4 strikes a deal with Amazon to air Live US Open Tennis Final
The news that the final will be shown on Channel 4 will be welcomed by UK tennis fans as they can now watch the entire match for free, instead of having to stream it from Amazon.

Channel 4 made a special deal with Amazon, reportedly worth £30m, allowing UK viewers to watch the US Open final for free, instead of streaming it on Amazon.

Amazon owns the exclusive UK rights to the US Open, meaning that ordinarily, viewers would have to subscribe to a 30-day free trial or pay a monthly fee of £7.99 to watch the match on its Prime service.

Channel 4’s chief content officer, Ian Katz, said: “Emma’s meteoric rise to secure a place in the US Open Final is just sensational. We’re glad to have worked with Prime Video and pulled out all the stops to get it on air and I’m sure viewers will be thrilled at the prospect of watching Emma in this grand slam final.”
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PD

Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: vandermolen on September 11, 2021, 12:06:52 PM
Watching on Channel 4
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Papy Oli on September 11, 2021, 12:23:13 PM
Here too  ;D
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: vandermolen on September 11, 2021, 01:36:17 PM
She did it! Amazing:
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Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Iota on September 11, 2021, 01:46:47 PM
Surreal! What remarkable talents and remarkable young women both! Their fearlessness in the heat of battle is just extraordinary. And the road ahead for young Emma seems absolutely wide open.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: vandermolen on September 11, 2021, 01:48:10 PM
Surreal! What remarkable talents and remarkable young women both! Their fearlessness in the heat of battle is just extraordinary. And the road ahead for young Emma seems absolutely wide open.
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Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Irons on September 12, 2021, 12:02:47 AM
Surreal! What remarkable talents and remarkable young women both! Their fearlessness in the heat of battle is just extraordinary. And the road ahead for young Emma seems absolutely wide open.

Spot on! Both girls are an amazing example what the young can achieve.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 12, 2021, 07:08:20 AM
Spot on! Both girls are an amazing example what the young can achieve.
Yes, an amazing run for both of them.  Fernandez had to fight through three of the top five women's tennis players for example (including a number of players who had won slams before too).  And Raducanu...can't believe that she made it through the qualifiers rounds...into the final and won the whole Big Apple (and without dropping a set along the route)!  She was ranked No. 150 when she started and coming Monday, she'll be ranked something like No. 23.

Pretty amazing how they managed to stay focused and calm..amazing maturity from too such young and very talented tennis players.

PD

p.s.  Loved Fernandez's comments to the crowd about 9/11 and the resiliency of NYC over the past 20 years--you could tell that she meant it and that the crowd loved her even more for her kind words.  :)
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Irons on September 12, 2021, 11:16:13 PM
Yes, an amazing run for both of them.  Fernandez had to fight through three of the top five women's tennis players for example (including a number of players who had won slams before too).  And Raducanu...can't believe that she made it through the qualifiers rounds...into the final and won the whole Big Apple (and without dropping a set along the route)!  She was ranked No. 150 when she started and coming Monday, she'll be ranked something like No. 23.

Pretty amazing how they managed to stay focused and calm..amazing maturity from too such young and very talented tennis players.

PD

p.s.  Loved Fernandez's comments to the crowd about 9/11 and the resiliency of NYC over the past 20 years--you could tell that she meant it and that the crowd loved her even more for her kind words.  :)

Not been mentioned in the thread, but I thought the medical break was of significance. Obviously Raducanu did not do it for her own advantage - post Aids, any sight of blood in sport results in a stop of proceedings. Although on cusp of a Raducanu victory, which can be the most difficult and tricky part of the game for any player, Fernandez was coming back at her. After stoppage, Raducanu sat in her chair cool as cucumber where as Fernandez was growing more and more agitated complaining to the match referee. It appeared she was upset. Maybe if her coach had been at the match he would have got a message to her to stop complaining, sit down and gather her thoughts. Not saying the result would have been different, but stranger things have happened and Fernandez is a fighter.
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 13, 2021, 12:39:31 AM
Not been mentioned in the thread, but I thought the medical break was of significance. Obviously Raducanu did not do it for her own advantage - post Aids, any sight of blood in sport results in a stop of proceedings. Although on cusp of a Raducanu victory, which can be the most difficult and tricky part of the game for any player, Fernandez was coming back at her. After stoppage, Raducanu sat in her chair cool as cucumber where as Fernandez was growing more and more agitated complaining to the match referee. It appeared she was upset. Maybe if her coach had been at the match he would have got a message to her to stop complaining, sit down and gather her thoughts. Not saying the result would have been different, but stranger things have happened and Fernandez is a fighter.
I believe that Fernandez was initially upset because she couldn't see (from where she was at the other end of the court) that Raducanu was bleeding and so didn't know what was happening and why there was a time out.  That said, she was jumping around on court trying to stay loose and probably, yes, feeling frustrated as she had been on a mini-roll and then this happened.

From the ITF rulebook: 

"Bleeding
If a player is bleeding, the Chair Umpire must stop play as soon as possible, and the Sports Physiotherapist must be called to the court by the Chair Umpire for evaluation and treatment. The Sports Physiotherapist, in conjunction with the Tournament Doctor if appropriate, will evaluate the source of the bleeding, and will request a Medical Time-Out for treatment if necessary.  If requested by the Sports Physiotherapist and/or Tournament Doctor, the Referee in consultation with the Grand Slam Supervisor or Chair Umpire may allow up to a total of five (5) minutes to assure control of the bleeding.  If blood has spilled onto the court or its immediate vicinity, play must not resume until the blood spill has been cleaned appropriately."


Also, no on-court coaching is allowed at slams (for both the men and the women).

Amazing win by Medvedev yesterday.  I felt for Novak as *he was trying so hard to win a calendar slam (winning all four opens within the same year).  Rod Laver, the only other man to have done so during the Open era, would have presented the trophy to Novak (so I had heard).  Steffi Graff, back in 1988 did it on the women's side (only other person to have done this male or female in the Open era other than Laver).  Medvedev was playing brilliantly though and I think also that the extra hours that Novak had played on court to get to the finals caught up with him too.

*If Novak had won this one too, he would have surpassed Rafa's and Roger's and his record of having won 20 slams each.  I would be surprised if Novak didn't do this at some point in the near future, but, alas for him, this wasn't to be his time to do so.

I'm watching some of the repeat now.  :)

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on September 14, 2021, 03:38:21 AM
As a fun aside:  I went online to see who wore what at the Met Gala and was pleased to see that a number of tennis players had attended it.  Not terribly surprised as Anna Wintour is a big tennis fan.  I suspect that there were some last minute invites as Emma Raducanu was there as well as Leylah Fernandez.  Loved Naomi Osaka's look (she was also one of the co-chairs)!

https://conandaily.com/2021/09/14/emma-raducanu-leylah-fernandez-attend-met-gala-2021-in-new-york-naomi-osaka-amanda-gorman-are-co-chairs/

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on October 05, 2021, 09:11:38 AM
Well, the women's draw is out now for Indian Wells.  Raducanu has a tricky road to navigate ahead:  https://www.10sballs.com/2021/10/05/indian-wells-tennis-•-wta-ladies-draw-raducanu-in-section-stacked-with-grand-slam-champions/  She was given a wild card into the event as at the time, her ranking wasn't high enough to get her into it.  She is now ranked No. 22.

The men's draw is due out at 3 p.m. (Pacific Time) today.

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on October 06, 2021, 04:40:35 AM
I took a look at the women's doubles' draw and noticed that Coco Gauff will be playing with Leylah Fernandez.  :)

PD
Title: Re: Tennis anyone?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on October 07, 2021, 06:46:10 AM
If you need a good laugh, try this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDn0U0w78k   :)

It's actually about badminton, but it left me in stitches.  Big fan here of Mary Carillo.  Besides being a former tennis champion, she's been a long-time commentator to various news networks (like Tennis Channel, ESPN and others).

PD