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Title: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 24, 2020, 07:57:37 AM
Enjoying these discs. Dynamic and lyrical music influenced by Bulgarian folk tradition. While the performance by the orchestras are average/fair, these unique compositions would sound great if performed by top-tier orchestras. Still, these recordings are beautiful and penetrating. There are only few recordings of Vladigerov. Hope somebody will release his symphonies someday.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on September 24, 2020, 08:05:37 AM
I quite enjoy this CD:
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Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 24, 2020, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on September 24, 2020, 08:05:37 AM
I quite enjoy this CD:
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I was wondering about the disc. I will order it today. 😄😄😄


P.s. Nice review on Amazon, Jeffrey. This is OOP and the market price is ridiculous now. I will wait for a reissue.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Christo on September 24, 2020, 09:19:13 AM
'My CD' is the one at CPO & a wonderful one at that:
(https://d1iiivw74516uk.cloudfront.net/eyJidWNrZXQiOiJwcmVzdG8tY292ZXItaW1hZ2VzIiwia2V5IjoiNzk1NDU2MS4xLmpwZyIsImVkaXRzIjp7InJlc2l6ZSI6eyJ3aWR0aCI6OTAwfSwianBlZyI6eyJxdWFsaXR5Ijo2NX0sInRvRm9ybWF0IjoianBlZyJ9LCJ0aW1lc3RhbXAiOjE1MzM2MzIzNTF9)(https://www.clicmusique.com/covers/back/0761203712526.jpg)

Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on September 24, 2020, 11:02:18 AM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 24, 2020, 08:55:07 AM
I was wondering about the disc. I will order it today. 😄😄😄


P.s. Nice review on Amazon, Jeffrey. This is OOP and the market price is ridiculous now. I will wait for a reissue.

Thank you DBK! I'd forgotten that I'd ever written that review and even more surprised that it is on Amazon.com rather than on Amazon.co.uk
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Symphonic Addict on September 24, 2020, 05:13:10 PM
I heard the 5 piano concertos some days ago. Anyone who loves intense late-Romanticism alla Rachmaninov should find great enjoyment in them, albeit Vladigerov incorporated folk elements that make them somewhat distinctive.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on September 24, 2020, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on September 24, 2020, 05:13:10 PM
I heard the 5 piano concertos some days ago. Anyone who loves intense late-Romanticism alla Rachmaninov should find great enjoyment in them, albeit Vladigerov incorporated folk elements that make them somewhat distinctive.
Possibly my next port of call.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Scion7 on September 24, 2020, 10:49:40 PM
born: 13/25 March 1899 in Zurich; died: Sofia, 8 Sept 1978

A composer I'd not heard of.
There is a website devoted to him:  https://vladigerov.org/en/about-pancho-vladigerov/

The Grove has a write-up on him that is informative (of course.)

" One of the most important representatives of second generation Bulgarian composers, he underwent a natural creative evolution and formed an individual musical style following the traditions of Rachmaninoff, Richard Strauss and others. He wrote the first instrumental concerto in Bulgarian music, while his 6 Lyric Songs (1917) mark the beginning of many such vocal works in Bulgarian music. In general terms, his music is highly expressive and employs Romantic harmonies ... Vladigerov is a significant figure in 20th-century music. Influenced by German and Russian music (but also using elements of Bulgarian, Jewish, Romanian and Spanish music) ... "


chamber works
==========================

Sonata for violin & piano, op.1, 1914
Trio for piano, violin, cello, op.4, 1916
2 Improvisations, op.7, violin, piano, 1919
4 Pieces, op.12, 1921
Balgarska rapsodiya 'Vardar', op.16, violin, piano, 1922
Burlesque, violin, piano, op.14, 1922
Kontsertno shimi, violin, piano, 1924
2 Balgaski Parafrazi [2 Bulgarian Paraphrases], op.18, violin, piano, 1925
2 Pieces, op.20, violin, piano, 1926
String Quartet, op.34, 1940
Concert Fantasy, cello, orch, op.35, 1941
2 Pieces, violin, piano, 1964

orchestral music
================================

Symphonic Legend, op.8, 1919
violin concerto no.1, op.11, 1921
Scandinavian Suite 'The Dance of Death'], op.13, 1924
Bulgarian Suite, op.21, 1927
Balgarska rapsodiya 'Vardar', 1928
piano concerto no.1, op.6, 1928
piano concerto no.2, op.22, 1930
7 Symphonic Bulgarian Dances, op.23, 1931
Zemya [Land], ov., op.27, 1933
piano concerto no.3, op.31, 1937
Symphony no.1, op.33, 1939
Epizodi [Episodes], op.36, 1941, revised as Improvatsiya i tokata, 1942
Horo Stakato [Chain Dance Staccato], 1942, a collaboration with the composer Dinku
4 Symphonic Romanian Dances, op.38, 1942
2 Romanian Sym. Sketches, op.39, 1943
Suite no.1, op.40a, 1947 [from Legenda za Ezeroto (ballet)]
Deveti Septemvri [September 9th], heroic overture, op.45, 1949
Symphony no.2 'Maiska' [May] for strings, op.44, 1949
Evreiska Poema [Hebrew Poem], op.47, 1951
piano concerto no.4, op.48, 1953
Suite no.2, op.40b, 1953 [from Legenda za Ezeroto (ballet)]
Song about Peace, dramatic poem, op.52, 1956
piano concerto no.5, op.58, 1963
violin concerto no.2, op.61, 1968
Lyulin Impressions, op.63, 1972

piano music
===========================

4 Pieces, op.10, 1920 -- 3 Pieces, op.15, 1922 -- 6 ekzotichni prelyudii [6 Exotic Preludes], op.17, 1924 -- Klasichno i romantichno [Classic and Romantic], op.24, 1931 -- Shumen Miniatures, op.29, 1934 -- Sonatina konchertante, op.28, 1934 -- Epizodi [Episodes], op.36, 1941 -- Akvareli [Aquarelles], op.37, 1942 -- Kartini [Pictures], op.46, 1950 -- Suite, op.51, 1954 -- 3 Pieces, op.53, 1957 -- 3 Concert Pieces, op.57, 1959 -- Novelettes, op.59 -- 1964 -- 5 harakterni piesi [5 Characteristic Pieces], op.60, 1965 -- 3 Short Pieces, op.63, 1972 -- 4 Pieces, op.65, 1973 -- 5 Silhouettes, op.66, 1974 -- 5 Poetic Pictures, op.68, 1976 -- 4 Frescoes, op.69, 1977 -- 3 Bagatelles, op.70, 1978

an opera: Tsar Kaloyan, op.30, 1936
a ballet: Legend of the Lake, op.40, 1946

a horde of incidental music:  Caesar and Cleopatra (G.B. Shaw), 1920 -- Sanna igra [The Dance of Death] (A. Strindberg), 1921 -- Judith (F. Hebel), 1922 -- Venetsiyanskiyat targovets [The Merchant of Venice] (W. Shakespeare), 1924 -- Tebeshireniyat krag [The Chalk Circle] (Klabund), 1925 -- Yuarets i Maksimiliyan [Juarez and Maximilian] (F. Werfel), 1926 -- Mnogo shum za nishcho [Much Ado about Nothing] (Shakespeare), 1928 -- Yusik (O. Dimov), 1929 -- Dvanaiseta noshch [Twelfth Night] (Shakespeare), 1932 -- Elenovo Tsarstvo [Deer Kingdom] (G. Raichev), 1934 -- Vetriloto [The Fan] (C. Goldoni), 1935 -- Shchastie [Happiness] (O. Vasilev), 1954

and songs, including 6 Lyric Songs, high vocalist & piano, 1917, folksong arrangements, and a choral work-Turbulent Days, 1945







Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Roasted Swan on September 25, 2020, 03:37:38 AM
I listened to the recent Naxos disc.  I must admit a slight sense of "meh...."  Well crafted, well played but very much in the style of 'colourful nationalistic' dance music - the sort of thing to my ear that Enescu and the like did earlier and better.  Perhaps too much folky-nationalism in one go for me.  I guess other facets of his music show a wider stylistic range....?
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Scion7 on September 25, 2020, 04:35:15 AM
Quote from: Roasted Swan on September 25, 2020, 03:37:38 AM
... that Enescu and the like did earlier and better

Maybe Bulgarian folk tunes are not as rich as Romanian ones?
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 25, 2020, 06:32:22 AM
Quote from: Christo on September 24, 2020, 09:19:13 AM
'My CD' is the one at CPO & a wonderful one at that:
(https://d1iiivw74516uk.cloudfront.net/eyJidWNrZXQiOiJwcmVzdG8tY292ZXItaW1hZ2VzIiwia2V5IjoiNzk1NDU2MS4xLmpwZyIsImVkaXRzIjp7InJlc2l6ZSI6eyJ3aWR0aCI6OTAwfSwianBlZyI6eyJxdWFsaXR5Ijo2NX0sInRvRm9ybWF0IjoianBlZyJ9LCJ0aW1lc3RhbXAiOjE1MzM2MzIzNTF9)(https://www.clicmusique.com/covers/back/0761203712526.jpg)

Solid performance, and possibly/arguably the best recording available as of now.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Roy Bland on October 08, 2020, 07:55:28 PM
(https://bookstore.ubc-bg.com/image/cache/catalog/PAN%20VLADIG-500x500.jpg)
(https://bookstore.ubc-bg.com/image/cache/catalog/p%20vlad%20v%20yarki%20bagri-500x500.jpg)
(https://bookstore.ubc-bg.com/image/cache/catalog/KLOUNA-500x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 09, 2020, 07:10:47 AM
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 08, 2020, 07:55:28 PM
(https://bookstore.ubc-bg.com/image/cache/catalog/PAN%20VLADIG-500x500.jpg)
(https://bookstore.ubc-bg.com/image/cache/catalog/p%20vlad%20v%20yarki%20bagri-500x500.jpg)
(https://bookstore.ubc-bg.com/image/cache/catalog/KLOUNA-500x500.jpg)

The jackets look so cool. Do you own some of them? I am envious!
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Roy Bland on October 09, 2020, 02:59:05 PM
You have to buy here:
https://bookstore.ubc-bg.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=83602&search=vladigerov+&page=3
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 09, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
Quote from: Roy Bland on October 09, 2020, 02:59:05 PM
You have to buy here:
https://bookstore.ubc-bg.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=83602&search=vladigerov+&page=3

Thank you. I will order this weekend!
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 19, 2020, 06:34:50 AM
Orchestral Works, Vol. 1 will be released from Capriccio on Nov. 6.

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8829242--vladigerov-orchestral-works-vol-1
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on October 19, 2020, 08:04:39 AM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 19, 2020, 06:34:50 AM
Orchestral Works, Vol. 1 will be released from Capriccio on Nov. 6.

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8829242--vladigerov-orchestral-works-vol-1
Interesting! Thanks for posting DBK.
PS The First Symphony, in a very crackly recording, is on You Tube. It sounds like the sort of crash-bang-wallop symphony which appeals to me. I shall investigate.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 19, 2020, 08:15:38 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on September 24, 2020, 08:05:37 AM
I quite enjoy this CD:
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I bought the disc for a reasonable price. The music sounds very good!
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on October 19, 2020, 10:03:55 AM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 19, 2020, 08:15:38 AM
I bought the disc for a reasonable price. The music sounds very good!
Good to know - I've pre-ordered the symphonies CD.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Symphonic Addict on October 19, 2020, 07:13:40 PM
Oh, I'm gonna want it!
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on October 19, 2020, 10:58:41 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on October 19, 2020, 07:13:40 PM
Oh, I'm gonna want it!
:)
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on November 07, 2020, 06:50:12 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on October 19, 2020, 07:13:40 PM
Oh, I'm gonna want it!

The set sounds very good! Colorful and picturesque.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lM8svv3T_Q_fFv2OMeTWBNg5f7EvQ6DkY
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Symphonic Addict on November 07, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on November 07, 2020, 06:50:12 PM
The set sounds very good! Colorful and picturesque.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lM8svv3T_Q_fFv2OMeTWBNg5f7EvQ6DkY

Thanks for the link. Both symphonies last more than 40 minutes each, so there should be fantastic music to ravish the ear, I hope.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on November 08, 2020, 08:41:15 AM
Just listening to the epic First Symphony (1939) now. What a work! Just my cup of tea. Poetic/lugubrious/searching/hopeful. One of my discoveries of 2020. This means more to me than the other two discs, good as they are, that I have of Vladigerov's music. The last movement opens with a kind of Rachmaninov-like looming sense of catastrophe, which is right up my street.
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Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Symphonic Addict on November 08, 2020, 07:25:39 PM
Very good, Jeffrey. Definitely sounds like my cup of tea too!
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on November 09, 2020, 01:21:28 AM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on November 08, 2020, 07:25:39 PM
Very good, Jeffrey. Definitely sounds like my cup of tea too!
Oh, I think so Cesar. I listened to it again, with much pleasure, this morning.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on November 09, 2020, 06:17:56 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on November 08, 2020, 08:41:15 AM
Just listening to the epic First Symphony (1939) now. What a work! Just my cup of tea. Poetic/lugubrious/searching/hopeful. One of my discoveries of 2020. This means more to me than the other two discs, good as they are, that I have of Vladigerov's music. The last movement opens with a kind of Rachmaninov-like looming sense of catastrophe, which is right up my street.
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Well-said Jeffrey!
While the S1 is exceptional, the entire set presents the music vivid, noble, and unique. As for the S1, yes the finale is great while the 3rd mvt is excellent as well.
I imagine that the Vol. 2 is coming later, very possibly next year!!
There is another album by the same orchestra, and I think it is worth listening to. The picture is attached and the YT link is below for your examination at your convenience.  Also, it seems to me that the CPO album mentioned on the previous page is (virtually) impeccable.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nPpvVldgKpo1E0ADsCBwC2CnnRnu3oXHc
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on November 09, 2020, 06:31:17 AM
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on November 09, 2020, 06:17:56 AM

Well-said Jeffrey!
While the S1 is exceptional, the entire set presents the music vivid, noble, and unique. As for the S1, yes the finale is great while the 3rd mvt is excellent as well.
I imagine that the Vol. 2 is coming later, very possibly next year!!
There is another album by the same orchestra, and I think it is worth listening to. The picture is attached and the YT link is below for your examination at your convenience.  Also, it seems to me that the CPO album mentioned on the previous page is (virtually) impeccable.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nPpvVldgKpo1E0ADsCBwC2CnnRnu3oXHc
Many thanks DBK. I haven't got beyond the First Symphony yet as I keep replaying it.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on January 21, 2021, 06:58:27 AM
Vol. 3 will be released on February 5.

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8865991--vladigerov-string-concertos

The note on the Presto site is mixed up. Otherwise, it must be Presto's genius/innovative marketing strategy for Catoire's music.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on April 02, 2021, 05:52:23 AM
Orchestral Works, Vol. 2 has been released today.
The set sounds very good!

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mYkJRhK9c7kS2Fa_SFhyQdJqk9OlNtt2E
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on April 04, 2022, 07:01:08 PM
Orchestral Works, Vol. 3 has been released!

https://youtu.be/JZBIATjmJ3U?list=OLAK5uy_ntBGRYbx8gFfbNgBo4Pr07UoVsHRtfIXU
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Symphonic Addict on April 04, 2022, 10:38:48 PM
Looks superb! Thanks for the info, Manabu!
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on April 04, 2022, 10:47:31 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on April 04, 2022, 10:38:48 PM
Looks superb! Thanks for the info, Manabu!
+1
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on April 05, 2022, 06:39:39 AM
My pleasure gents!
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Roy Bland on April 05, 2022, 06:48:33 AM
(http://klassichaus.us/images/KHCD-2013-010-cover-thumb.jpg)
IMHO they can't reissue
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on April 07, 2022, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Roy Bland on April 05, 2022, 06:48:33 AM
(http://klassichaus.us/images/KHCD-2013-010-cover-thumb.jpg)
IMHO they can't reissue

Roy, thank you for the info about these likable works.
I listened to both the No. 1 and No.2 via Youtube, and I found them very charming and glowing.
Still I found them substantially different from his other orchestral works, so they are very interesting.
Thank you for your post!

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lmMJoOtIVs3GXVj6JAbCfbYt3AhblrRUM

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWFMJ_o4wFkMgcKCVO3NFX5VQ95a2sbdM


Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on April 08, 2022, 05:47:48 AM
Just sampled the 'Jewish Poem' which sounds v powerful, eloquent and moving.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on April 08, 2022, 07:26:40 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 08, 2022, 05:47:48 AM
Just sampled the 'Jewish Poem' which sounds v powerful, eloquent and moving.

+1. Solid composition.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Symphonic Addict on April 08, 2022, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 08, 2022, 05:47:48 AM
Just sampled the 'Jewish Poem' which sounds v powerful, eloquent and moving.

One of the highlights of this new volume of his orchestral works. I'm enjoying it so much.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: vandermolen on April 09, 2022, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on April 08, 2022, 01:13:29 PM
One of the highlights of this new volume of his orchestral works. I'm enjoying it so much.
Thanks Cesar (and Manabu).
I suspect that this CD set will be coming my way soon!
:)
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Symphonic Addict on April 10, 2022, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 09, 2022, 10:59:25 PM
Thanks Cesar (and Manabu).
I suspect that this CD set will be coming my way soon!
:)

Great, Jeffrey! Let us know how you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Pancho Vladigerov
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on June 24, 2023, 06:27:18 AM
New release.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyJZ9rpayCCYEGrnqic7RTpR8YRqCWJig


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6YUQ4-BhuM3M15-e8hhWkJvriHuKlJlA5CsnpfR3UUxlOimL50aIkGrjrkKwZ4KaaeNA9YXP8udTusQ=w544-h544-l90-rj)