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Title: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: snyprrr on March 12, 2009, 09:04:27 PM
dAVID bOWIE?

is this classical?
Title: Re: Brian ENO/Harold BUDD
Post by: Daverz on March 12, 2009, 10:16:23 PM
Not unless it's performed by Bang On a Can. :P
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: snyprrr on March 12, 2009, 11:31:01 PM
Kronos Qrt. does American Idol?
better yet, TV themes.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Daverz on March 12, 2009, 11:58:40 PM
Here's the Bang On a Can recording of Eno's Music for Airports:

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Airports-Robert-Black/dp/B0000069CI

It was reviewed in Fanfare.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: snyprrr on March 14, 2009, 12:23:45 PM
i did like Eno's Pachelbel var.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Dax on March 14, 2009, 04:39:56 PM
It's a musical myth that Eno "discovered" ambient music by accident (not dissimilar to the idea that Steve Reich is supposed to have "discovered" phasing by playing back the same material on 2 tape recorders) - the idea came from English experimental music of the late 60s (rather than Satie) whose cause Eno was one of the very few to meaningfully publicise in the 1970s, by putting out recordings on the Obscure label.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: bwv 1080 on March 14, 2009, 07:03:03 PM
Jon Hassell and the rest of the cabal around Pran Nath was a big influence.  Eno collaborated with Hassell on the Fourth World series in the late 70s

Brian Eno wrote here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/nov/09/jazz.urban

Quote
Those first few months in the city were a formative time for me. I didn't know many people, and I had time on my hands, so I was open to things in a way that I might not have been in a more familiar landscape. I listened to a lot of live music and bought a heap of records. One of the most important was by a musician I'd never heard of - a trumpeter called Jon Hassell. It was called Vernal Equinox.

This record fascinated me. It was a dreamy, strange, meditative music that was inflected by Indian, African and South American music, but also seemed located in the lineage of tonal minimalism. It was a music I felt I'd been waiting for.

I discovered later, after I met and became friends with Jon, that he referred to his invention as Fourth World Music (which became the subtitle of the first album we made together: Possible Musics). I learned subsequently that Jon had studied at Darmstadt with Stockhausen (as indeed had Holger Czukay from Can, another occasional colleague), that he'd played on the first recording of Terry Riley's seminal In C, and that he'd studied with the great Indian singer Pran Nath.

We had a lot to talk about. We had both come through experimental music traditions - the European one, as exemplified by Stockhausen and Cornelius Cardew, and the American one of Cage and Terry Riley and LaMonte Young. At the same time, we were aware of the beauty and sophistication of all the music being made outside our culture - what is now called "world music". And we were both intrigued by the possibilities of new musical technology.

But beyond these issues, there was a deeper idea: that music was a place where you conducted and displayed new social experiments. Jon's experiment was to imagine a "coffee coloured" world - a globalised world constantly integrating and hybridising, where differences were celebrated and dignified - and to try to realise it in music.

His unusual articulacy - and the unexpected scope of his references - inspired me. In general, artists don't talk much about how or why they make their work, especially "why". Jon does. He is a theorist and a practitioner, and his theories are as elegant and as attractive as his music: because in fact his music is the embodiment of those theories.

We spent a lot of time together, time that changed my mind in many ways. We talked about music as embodied philosophy, for every music implies a philosophical position even when its creators aren't conscious of it. And we talked about sex and sensuality, about trying to make a music that embraced the whole being and not just the bit above the neck (or just the bit below it).

It was in these conversations that, among other things, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, which I made with David Byrne in 1981, was nurtured. All of us were interested in collage, in making musical particle colliders where we could crash different cultural forms with all their emotional baggage and see what came out of the collisions, what new worlds they suggested.

If I had to name one over-riding principle in Jon's work it would be that of respect. He looks at the world in all its momentary and evanescent moods with respect, and this shows in his music. He sees dignity and beauty in all forms of the dance of life.

I owe a lot to Jon. Actually, a lot of people owe a lot to Jon. He has planted a strong and fertile seed whose fruits are still being gathered.



Funny thing is Pran Nath is a rather mediocre Khayal singer - a very minor figure in Hindustani music.  But he was no doubt charismatic and a good teacher of the tradition, which Jon Hassell learned to emulate with his trumpet
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: snyprrr on March 15, 2009, 01:26:37 PM
It IS interesting all the strands accumulating in the 60s and 70s. Wasn't there a great book on this subject called "New Sounds"? That's were I learned about all these 3rd and 4th streams. Ahhh, the things we take for granted today!
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 26, 2013, 01:23:55 PM
Fripp, Eno, Budd, Hassell...such an influence on me in my younger years...  ::)

I still listen, but there's plenty of other music to check out.

However...Budd started writing for string quartet in recent years and Eno just put out Lux, the best ambient he's done in years.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Sean on May 26, 2013, 02:25:02 PM
Huge Eno fan here, everyone must get playing Thursday afternoon, it's on Youtube, the video with the surreal painting of the lady and the garden- can't find you the link from where I am. I've played this piece countless times when wasn't sure what else to put on.

The Apollo collection is marvellous stuff, though Neroli is a weaker sequel.

Music for airports remains his masterpiece, again complete on Youtube- search on '...complete album' if I remember.

Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: TheGSMoeller on May 26, 2013, 03:11:39 PM
Bang on a Can have a great live recording of Music for Airports. I listen to it more than the original studio take.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: snyprrr on May 26, 2013, 04:09:47 PM
Fripp, Eno, Budd, Hassell...such an influence on me in my younger years...  ::)

I still listen, but there's plenty of other music to check out.

However...Budd started writing for string quartet in recent years and Eno just put out Lux, the best ambient he's done in years.

Do you play any?
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Sean on May 26, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
Hi 7/4 will get hold of Lux when I can, sounds most interesting. S

Fripp, Eno, Budd, Hassell...such an influence on me in my younger years...  ::)

I still listen, but there's plenty of other music to check out.

However...Budd started writing for string quartet in recent years and Eno just put out Lux, the best ambient he's done in years.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 27, 2013, 03:13:00 AM
Do you play any?

Sure!

Guitarist, composer, microtonalist.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 27, 2013, 05:20:17 AM
Bang on a Can have a great live recording of Music for Airports. I listen to it more than the original studio take.

There's a transcription of Apollo for Icebreaker with BJ Cole that's interesting on Canteloupe, the BoaC label.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: snyprrr on May 27, 2013, 05:31:59 AM
Sure!

Guitarist, composer, microtonalist.

So, do you 'tune' your guitar in Just Intonation,...hey, there's 'guitar' threads in the performer section of this site!!!! Meet U THERE!!
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 27, 2013, 05:45:41 AM
So, do you 'tune' your guitar in Just Intonation,...hey, there's 'guitar' threads in the performer section of this site!!!! Meet U THERE!!

A couple of them.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Rinaldo on May 27, 2013, 06:11:58 AM
Bang on a Can have a great live recording of Music for Airports. I listen to it more than the original studio take.

Damn, how did I miss that?! I LOVELOVELOVELOVE the studio version.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 27, 2013, 06:24:40 AM
Damn, how did I miss that?! I LOVELOVELOVELOVE the studio version.

They kind of snuck it out. I thought it was going to get a lot of attention, but I guess not.
Title: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: TheGSMoeller on May 27, 2013, 09:49:33 AM
Damn, how did I miss that?! I LOVELOVELOVELOVE the studio version.

That's a lot of love, Rinaldo. :)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Rinaldo on May 27, 2013, 09:58:16 AM
That's a lot of love, Rinaldo. :)

Sure is. One of the first CDs I ever bought and now I've listened to the live one via Bang's online store and it sure is beautiful!
Title: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: TheGSMoeller on May 27, 2013, 10:06:36 AM
Sure is. One of the first CDs I ever bought and now I've listened to the live one via Bang's online store and it sure is beautiful!

Great! 
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on June 09, 2013, 04:02:16 AM
New, I didn't even notice this was coming out...

Harold Budd - Jane 1-11 (Darla)

http://darla.com/?fuseaction=item_cat.ecom_superitem_detail&item_cat_id=41841 (http://darla.com/?fuseaction=item_cat.ecom_superitem_detail&item_cat_id=41841)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on October 20, 2013, 01:39:29 PM
new reissues, remasters by Harold Budd.

http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/harold-budd-2/ (http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/harold-budd-2/)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on December 07, 2013, 06:07:17 AM
Harold Budd, Wind in Lonely Fences track listing.

http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/harold-budd-wind-in-lonely-fences-track-listing/ (http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/harold-budd-wind-in-lonely-fences-track-listing/)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Octave on December 07, 2013, 11:15:20 PM
Bang on a Can have a great live recording of Music for Airports. I listen to it more than the original studio take.

I'm curious if anyone knows both [?] of the live recordings commercially released by the BOaC?  Is there anything to be preferred about the DVD edition [1999 live performance], aside maybe from the included documentary?  I am assuming the ultra-hot-pink CD [spring 1998 live performance] is the one Greg is talking about.



Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on December 14, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
I just have the original BoaC CD, didn't realize there was more.




Harold Budd – Children on the Hill (Live ’82)
http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/harold-budd-children-on-the-hill-live-82/ (http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/harold-budd-children-on-the-hill-live-82/)

The recording that Kyle Gann blogged about a few years ago shows up on YouTube.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Sean on December 21, 2013, 10:31:44 AM
This is definitive.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Music_for_Airports.jpg)

(http://alanwalkerart.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/bang_airport_big.jpg)

You can hear it on YT- search on Music for aiports whole album.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: bigshot on December 21, 2013, 10:37:52 AM
I always wanted him to come out with an album called "Music To Watch Paint Dry By"
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Sean on December 21, 2013, 10:38:28 AM
You have much to learn...
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Dax on December 21, 2013, 11:06:11 AM
He has.

For starters:- https://soundcloud.com/watching-paint-dry
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on January 03, 2014, 05:45:52 AM
Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music For Airports (6 Hour Time-stretched Version)

http://youtu.be/ZWUlLHv7-64

http://youtu.be/ZWUlLHv7-64 (http://youtu.be/ZWUlLHv7-64)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 21, 2014, 03:01:08 PM
recent Harold Budd interviews (http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/harold-budd-interviews/)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on May 21, 2014, 07:25:10 PM
Harold Budd's string quartet is very good.

String Quartet 2003
https://www.youtube.com/v/JI4zMEdbFI4
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on May 21, 2014, 09:27:10 PM
Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music For Airports (6 Hour Time-stretched Version)

http://youtu.be/ZWUlLHv7-64 (http://youtu.be/ZWUlLHv7-64)
It is interesting to see time-stretching creates so beautiful, mystic music. R. Luke DuBois (http://lukedubois.com/) uses similar techniques to make his music and video art. Vertical Music is 4 1/2 min music played back at 1/10 speed, resulting in 45-min music. It is also very beautiful.
http://vimeo.com/41507465 (http://vimeo.com/41507465)

I was also reminded of Douglas Gordon's 24 Hour Psycho, that is Hitchcock's Psycho slowed down, lasting for 24 hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtLg5TqqVeA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtLg5TqqVeA)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 22, 2014, 02:37:21 AM
Harold Budd's string quartet is very good.

String Quartet 2003
https://www.youtube.com/v/JI4zMEdbFI4

Bandits of Stature is the album with the sting qts. I wish he'd do more with chamber music.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on May 22, 2014, 07:59:29 AM
Bandits of Stature is the album with the sting qts. I wish he'd do more with chamber music.
I feel the same way. I think his music is well suited to the form of string quartet or other chamber music.

The string quartet 2003 has a very similar atmosphere of Stephen Whittington's string quartet Music For Airport Furniture. I guess it is appropriate here because the title is homage to Brian Eno's famous work. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhB0_Drh8dA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhB0_Drh8dA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpfRab9loAI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpfRab9loAI)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 25, 2014, 06:30:47 AM
I feel the same way. I think his music is well suited to the form of string quartet or other chamber music.

The string quartet 2003 has a very similar atmosphere of Stephen Whittington's string quartet Music For Airport Furniture. I guess it is appropriate here because the title is homage to Brian Eno's famous work. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhB0_Drh8dA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhB0_Drh8dA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpfRab9loAI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpfRab9loAI)

Yes, and it's beautiful.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 26, 2014, 03:39:54 AM
Music for Airport Furniture CB0038 (http://www.coldbluemusic.com/pages/CB0038.html)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on May 26, 2014, 11:37:41 AM
Music for Airport Furniture CB0038 (http://www.coldbluemusic.com/pages/CB0038.html)
The only disappointment is that it is too short (~23min.)
BTW, I noticed that the label Cold Blue Music has some interesting albums of minimalists. I want to check some...

Today I listened to The Pavilion of Dreams. It is so beautiful and calming, especially after listening to harsh avant-garde string quartets. ;D
The personnel list is impressive: Gavin Bryars, Michael Nyman, Marion Brown, Brian Eno, etc.

Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 26, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
The Pavilion of Dreams - it took me a long time to appreciate that album, I didn't like the saxophone when I first heard it 30 something years ago. I like it fine now!

Peter Garland has a nice CD of string qts on Cold Blue that I really like.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on May 26, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
In his book American Music in the Twentieth Century, Kyle Gann mentioned Harold Budd as one of the "other minimalists." ("The minimalists" are Young, Riley, Reich, Glass and Monk.) Although the length is just about half a page, Budd is usually not mentioned so much in this kind of books.

Gann wrote: "Few minimalists have deserved the title more than Harold Budd did early in his career." [...] Budd "exemplifies more than anyone else the mellow school of California minimalism (even Riley looks uptight by comparison)" [...] "no other American figure seems so far from academia, so radically intuitive and uninterested in structures or explanations. His music feels like aural incense, almost ambient, characterized by silky, arpeggiated seventh chords played on electric pianos, harps, and vibraphones, modified by delays and harmonizers, in a lazy atmosphere."
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 27, 2014, 05:14:10 AM
In his book American Music in the Twentieth Century, Kyle Gann mentioned Harold Budd as one of the "other minimalists." ("The minimalists" are Young, Riley, Reich, Glass and Monk.) Although the length is just about half a page, Budd is usually not mentioned so much in this kind of books.

Gann wrote: "Few minimalists have deserved the title more than Harold Budd did early in his career." [...] Budd "exemplifies more than anyone else the mellow school of California minimalism (even Riley looks uptight by comparison)" [...] "no other American figure seems so far from academia, so radically intuitive and uninterested in structures or explanations. His music feels like aural incense, almost ambient, characterized by silky, arpeggiated seventh chords played on electric pianos, harps, and vibraphones, modified by delays and harmonizers, in a lazy atmosphere."

I have that book. I've wondered why he never wrote more about Budd. Kyle's said he listened to him quite a bit when he was younger.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on May 27, 2014, 10:31:17 AM
I am curious about how Harold Budd's compositions are regarded in classical music world. Except the Gann's book, I have seen his name only in books about Rock/Ambient music. (An ambient guide book describes The Pavilion of Dreams as "New Age", the term Budd hates. ;D)

Peter Garland has a nice CD of string qts on Cold Blue that I really like.
It is very nice, thank you. The string quartets sounds very American to me. Occasionally, some phrasings reminded me of Reich, but Garland's music is not repetitive.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on May 27, 2014, 11:13:57 AM
I am curious about how Harold Budd's compositions are regarded in classical music world. Except the Gann's book, I have seen his name only in books about Rock/Ambient music. (An ambient guide book describes The Pavilion of Dreams as "New Age", the term Budd hates. ;D)

I think he's influential, but also part of a larger California/West Coast sound. He taught at CalArts.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on June 08, 2014, 07:27:42 AM
Peter Schmidt (http://www.peterschmidtweb.com/)

"Peter Schmidt met Brian Eno as a visiting lecturer at Ipswich art school in the late 1960s and later became a friend and collaborator. They found they had both independently arrived at a system of using little quotes and axioms to overcome artistic obstacles. They combined efforts to publish the Oblique Strategies cards in 1975. Brian Eno commented on Schmidt. The Oblique Strategies seem to have been an out growth of Schmidt's own "Thoughts Behind The Thoughts".


Schmidt created 1500 different silk screen portraits of Brian Eno, four of which are used on the cover of the LP Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy). The Robert Fripp and Brian Eno LP Evening Star has on its cover a Schmidt painting.

Brian Eno included four watercolor prints of Schmidt's work with the first edition of his LP Before and after Science and famously wrote in its liner notes: "Apart from our collaboration on this record, Peter and I have been working together and comparing notes for some time. In 1975 we produced a boxed set of oracle cards called "Oblique Strategies", which were used extensively in the making of this record.""
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on June 12, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
Peter Schmidt's art is very good. I like the later works and Before and After Science.

Amazon started Primemusic, a free streaming service for Prime members. There are not so much classical music yet, but I found some Eno/Budd albums.

My Life in the Bush of Ghosts by Brian Eno/David Byrne
Everything That Happens Will Happen Today by David Byrne & Brian Eno
Jane 1-11 by Harold Budd
Bandits of Stature by Harold Budd

I am now listening to Jane 1-11, it feels so nice.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on June 13, 2014, 04:42:28 AM
I like Bandits of Stature a lot!

Jane 1-11 is new, there's another volume coming.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on June 13, 2014, 08:06:12 PM
I like Bandits of Stature a lot!

Jane 1-11 is new, there's another volume coming.
Is it a new recording, or another retrospective compilation?
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on June 14, 2014, 09:07:59 AM
Is it a new recording, or another retrospective compilation?

Both new.

Bandits of Stature = string qts
Jane = keyboards
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on June 14, 2014, 09:38:29 AM
Both new.

Bandits of Stature = string qts
Jane = keyboards
What is the another volume coming?  Is it Jane 12~?
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on June 14, 2014, 12:08:46 PM
What is the another volume coming?  Is it Jane 12~?

That's what I heard.

There's a version of Jane 1-11 with a dvd of music videos by Jane Maru.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on June 14, 2014, 04:43:08 PM
Composer Peter Garland sent a thank you postcard to Darla Records for his copy of Bandits of Stature. Peter has an amazing album of string quartets too, String Quartets [1 & 2] (Cold Blue CB0031) (http://www.coldbluemusic.com/pages/CB0031.html)

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/microtonaldave/10372962_10152299293269713_2882820673845514520_o_zps3bcd2dac.jpg)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on June 14, 2014, 06:17:30 PM
That's what I heard.

There's a version of Jane 1-11 with a dvd of music videos by Jane Maru.
That is good news. Thank you.

Today I listened to Harold Budd's piano album, Perhaps. It is lovely and beautiful but not too mellow. I loved it at first listen.

I had been enjoying Eno & Budd (The Plateaux Of Mirror, The Pearl) for a long time but didn't pay much attention to Budd's solo works until recently. I am liking his music more and more.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on June 16, 2014, 03:34:54 AM
La Bella Vista is another, recent (2003) solo piano album. I like his solo piano albums, I think they come closest to his Eno albums.

Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on June 22, 2014, 08:54:31 PM
La Bella Vista is another, recent (2003) solo piano album. I like his solo piano albums, I think they come closest to his Eno albums.
La Bella Vista is exceptionally beautiful. Thank you. I am listening to it repeatedly these days. I need more Harold Budd.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on July 20, 2014, 07:48:56 AM
Harold Budd – Children on the Hill (Live ’82)
http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/harold-budd-children-on-the-hill-live-82/ (http://harmonicsdb.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/harold-budd-children-on-the-hill-live-82/)

The recording that Kyle Gann blogged about a few years ago shows up on YouTube.

I missed it when I read through this thread. It is excellent, thank you.

You already know (I saw your comment), Gann's transcription of this performance (not album version) played by Sarah Cahill is also very nice.
           
http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/2009/09/a_slope_of_rugrats.html (http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/2009/09/a_slope_of_rugrats.html)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on August 05, 2014, 07:48:47 PM
Harold Budd's Jane 12-21 will be released on September 9.

Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on October 22, 2014, 10:30:57 PM
I have been listening to Jane 12-21. I cannot tell his stylistic changes (if any) because I have not heard his past music enough, but it is getting more quiet, sparse, and austere? (Sometimes it almost reminded me of Wandelweiser.) Anyway Jane 1-11 & 12-21 are superb albums, I think.

I also purchased Buddbox recently. Just listened to it once, and I love it very much. Music For 3 Pianos (with Lentz and Garcia) is especially impressive.

Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: snyprrr on October 23, 2014, 07:16:45 AM
I'm glad you all are getting enjoyment out of this Thread! Cheers!!
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on October 24, 2014, 01:30:31 PM
The All Saints re-issue program continues:

Announcing expanded reissues of 4 Brian Eno albums with rare and unreleased material from the archives:
http://brian-eno.net/reissues (http://brian-eno.net/reissues)



(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/microtonaldave/10509554_725866544159155_2127341435791801691_n_zpsc788654e.jpg)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: chadfeldheimer on October 26, 2014, 04:15:21 AM
Reply to an older post  :)
Fripp, Eno, Budd, Hassell...such an influence on me in my younger years...  ::)
Great - I also love all of them, especially Eno and Hassell.
Quote
However...Budd started writing for string quartet in recent years and Eno just put out Lux, the best ambient he's done in years.
Yes - Lux is a Beauty - for me among his very best albums (including his classics from the 70s and early 80s).
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on October 28, 2014, 08:38:47 PM
Reply to an older post  :)Great - I also love all of them, especially Eno and Hassell.
Yes - Lux is a Beauty - for me among his very best albums (including his classics from the 70s and early 80s).
I used to collect Brian Eno's albums but lost interest when he departed from ambient music. However, because Lux is highly praised here and elsewhere, I purchased it only recently, and I also found it very good.
I have Neroli and The Shutov Assembly (one of my favorites), but the bonus tracks of the reissues are tempting.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on October 29, 2014, 03:52:25 AM
I have all four. Those extra tracks make them tempting, particularly Neroli.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: HIPster on October 29, 2014, 06:36:36 AM
I have all four. Those extra tracks make them tempting, particularly Neroli.
Agreed, 7/4!

Neroli looks particularly inviting and I will pick that one up when it is released.

Speaking of new releases, this seems like an appropriate place to post this new release:

Fripp & Eno - Live in Paris

Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: 7/4 on October 29, 2014, 04:08:40 PM
Speaking of new releases, this seems like an appropriate place to post this new release:

Fripp & Eno - Live in Paris


I just picked up my copy this afternoon.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Rinaldo on October 31, 2014, 05:31:20 AM
Finally got to


and I must say it's the first Eno album I've enjoyed from start to finish since.. I don't know when? (although I adore his 2008 collaboration with David Byrne, Everything That Happens Will Happen Today). Surprisingly fresh and adventurous.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: chadfeldheimer on November 11, 2014, 10:07:44 AM
I used to collect Brian Eno's albums but lost interest when he departed from ambient music. However, because Lux is highly praised here and elsewhere, I purchased it only recently, and I also found it very good.
I have Neroli and The Shutov Assembly (one of my favorites), but the bonus tracks of the reissues are tempting.
Shutov Assembly also is a Eno-favorite of mine - underrated - I prefer it to say Apollo anytime.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on November 14, 2015, 12:29:22 PM
Brian Eno: Discreet Music - Contact (cantaloupe music)
(http://cantaloupemusic.com/sites/default/files/styles/album_art/public/album_artwork/ca21114_contact_front.jpg)
http://cantaloupemusic.com/albums/brian-eno-discreet-music (http://cantaloupemusic.com/albums/brian-eno-discreet-music)

"In Contact’s version, acoustic and electric instruments (cello, violin, soprano saxophone, guitar, double bass, vibraphone, piano, flute and gongs) take the place of Eno’s EMS synthesizer, channeling the underlying melodies of the piece until the ensemble itself becomes a kind of “looping apparatus,” as Pergolesi describes it."

This is very good. Contact (http://www.contactcontemporarymusic.ca/) is Canada's contemporary music ensemble, led by percussionist Jerry Pergolesi.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Rinaldo on November 14, 2015, 01:32:17 PM
(http://cantaloupemusic.com/sites/default/files/styles/album_art/public/album_artwork/ca21114_contact_front.jpg)
http://cantaloupemusic.com/albums/brian-eno-discreet-music (http://cantaloupemusic.com/albums/brian-eno-discreet-music)

Thanks for the heads up! Looks like another gem in Cantaloupe's catalogue.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: OrchestralNut on March 08, 2016, 07:35:12 AM
Is there anything to be preferred about the DVD edition [1999 live performance], aside maybe from the included documentary? 



I watched this documentary last night on YouTube.  It was quite interesting, and I did enjoy some of the snippets played.  Eno's Music for Airports being one.  :)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: torut on February 12, 2017, 06:09:05 PM
Brian Eno: Reflection



Released on January 1, 2017. It is similar to the long ambient pieces such as Neroli and Thursday Afternoon. I like this much better than the previous release The Ship. Really good.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Scion7 on February 13, 2017, 11:18:20 AM
Brian Eno circa 1973: "Classical music's a dead fish."

And this certainly doesn't fall under the umbrella - with all respect to Sniper, and with no intention to set him off into a wild _______ spree  :o ??? , I suggest moving this thread to The Diner.

Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Christo on February 13, 2017, 12:09:44 PM
Brian Eno circa 1973: "Classical music's a dead fish."

And this certainly doesn't fall under the umbrella - with all respect to Sniper, and with no intention to set him off into a wild _______ spree  :o ??? , I suggest moving this thread to The Diner.
No problem, though I actually filed them in my 'classical' collection, as others here will have done too.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Mirror Image on September 02, 2017, 09:23:51 AM
I’d say that Avalon Sutra is probably one of the best entry points for getting into Harold Budd’s music:

(https://img.discogs.com/1Vf2yILZ0r0xoXnyJUO24-zhW_0=/fit-in/600x521/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-359591-1332703956.jpeg.jpg)

What makes this particular collection of pieces so remarkable is the inclusion of a string quartet on many of them. The album’s TT is short overall, though, but having a short duration is the best way to enjoy this music IMHO.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Rinaldo on September 03, 2017, 12:12:36 PM
I’d say that Avalon Sutra is probably one of the best entry points for getting into Harold Budd’s music:

(https://img.discogs.com/1Vf2yILZ0r0xoXnyJUO24-zhW_0=/fit-in/600x521/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-359591-1332703956.jpeg.jpg)

What makes this particular collection of pieces so remarkable is the inclusion of a string quartet on many of them. The album’s TT is short overall, though, but having a short duration is the best way to enjoy this music IMHO.

Budd's solo work is usually too 'sweet' for me, but the lovely cover convinced me to check this album out and I'm pleasantly surprised. The strings compliment the reverberating piano beautifully.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Mirror Image on September 03, 2017, 12:36:34 PM
Budd's solo work is usually too 'sweet' for me, but the lovely cover convinced me to check this album out and I'm pleasantly surprised. The strings compliment the reverberating piano beautifully.

Yep, it’s a beauty. My favorite Budd album.
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: Mandryka on January 26, 2021, 12:32:28 PM
Started to listen to this -- this seems the best thread to put it in

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/SeeingThroughSound.jpg)
Title: Re: Brian Eno/ Harold Budd
Post by: T. D. on January 26, 2021, 01:09:27 PM
Thanks for reviving the thread. Reminds me, for a couple of years I've meant to start in on Budd's music but never got round to it.
Got the idea after hearing him on an early '70s jazz album, Vista by Marion Brown. Budd played on one piece he wrote for Brown (Bismillahi 'Rrahmani' Rrahim), only recorded it himself years later.
Which suggests Pavilion of Dreams as a starting point...looking at the personnel (Brown, Michael Nyman, Richard Bernas, Gavin Bryars et al.; prod. Eno), definitely if I can find a download...surprising such a well-known recording has become so scarce.