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Title: Where to download specific scores
Post by: greg on April 19, 2007, 05:16:29 AM
this has to be the best free sheet music site on the web!
i'm pretty sure i visited awhile back to get a bunch of Shostakovich, but a few days ago i took the link from Schoenberg's wiki page and "rediscovered" the site and man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

some of the best ones i got were:
Bartok- 1st Piano Concerto
Schoenberg- Piano Concerto, Transfigured Night, Pierrot Lunaire
Ives- Concord Sonata
Scriabin- Prometheus
Mahler- 8th Symphony (though it looks like just the 1st movement)

but it looks like they took all of Shosty's stuff down

imslp.org
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on April 19, 2007, 06:54:32 AM
Yes, I was there yesterday downloading literally hundreds of things 8). Apart from anything else they have some wonderful bits and pieces by more hard-to-find but great composers such as Enescu. But as you say, it's important with these places to check back regularly - they update often (most of that Schoenberg is fairly new for instance) but take things down often too. They had a lot of Poulenc piano music recently; it's all gone now. Likewise with many other sites I frequent.
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Guido on April 19, 2007, 10:02:37 AM
Occasionally things are uploaded which contravene copyright law but are not taken down. There was some Ligeti there for a while!

EDIT: my goodness - they have Ives on there. Given that it wasn't published until relatively recently, I can imagine that wont be up for long - his scores are expensive too! (Unanswered question is £25!)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Maciek on April 19, 2007, 10:22:10 AM
Also check out this thread on the old forum: Online music scores stores (http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,13808.0.html). This and other sites were mentioned there.

Maciek
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on April 19, 2007, 10:54:37 AM
I suppose this is the right thread to say that I'm listening to the Respighi Violin Sonata (Mutter/Orkis) right now with my freshly downloaded score in front of me. It's hard to reconcile this rhythmically-complex and subtle Respighi, who seems to have been listening to a lot of Brahms with that of the better-known pieces. This is the first score I've seen of his outside those orchestral showpieces and it's quite a revelation to see his working. Impressed. Interested to see quite how far Mutter stretches this rhythmically-difficult score, mind you, but it's all quite tasteful, and it was a live recording...
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on April 20, 2007, 04:43:27 AM
Yes, I was there yesterday downloading literally hundreds of things 8). Apart from anything else they have some wonderful bits and pieces by more hard-to-find but great composers such as Enescu. But as you say, it's important with these places to check back regularly - they update often (most of that Schoenberg is fairly new for instance) but take things down often too. They had a lot of Poulenc piano music recently; it's all gone now. Likewise with many other sites I frequent.
really? thanks for telling me! i'll make sure to check back often

[quote author = Guido]Occasionally things are uploaded which contravene copyright law but are not taken down. There was some Ligeti there for a while!

EDIT: my godness - they have Ives on there. Given that it was;t published until relatively recently, I can imagine that wont be up for long - his scores are expensive too! (Unanswered question is £25!)[/quote]
wow...... that's sweet, hopefully i can snag an expensive modern score
lol, my godness- that's a good one, i've gotta use that sometime  ;D

Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Guido on April 20, 2007, 07:26:01 AM
I always make the same typing mistakes which is embarrassing especially using ; instead of ' which is particularly jarring on the eye... Some of the keys on my keyboard are oddly unresponsive though, and I am typing on a laptop keyboard, which is awkward at the best of times...
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on April 20, 2007, 01:58:07 PM
I always make the same typing mistakes which is embarrassing especially using ; instead of ' which is particularly jarring on the eye... Some of the keys on my keyboard are oddly unresponsive though, and I am typing on a laptop keyboard, which is awkward at the best of times...
so that's an explanation for that "oh my godness?"  ;D
(looks like you need to replace that o key)

on a side note, if anyone finds anything new on there, just update the thread please just to make sure i don't miss anything  ;)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Guido on April 21, 2007, 01:09:48 AM
Well I just uploaded the Ysaye violin Sonatas, but I don't know what you're interested in...
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on April 21, 2007, 04:24:24 AM
Well I just uploaded the Ysaye violin Sonatas, but I don't know what you're interested in...
hm, anything modern like Ligeti, Penderecki, Xenakis, Boulez (which really isn't supposed to be on there in the first place  ;D ) or semi-modern like the 2nd Viennese. Also, anything by Prokofiev or Mahler- so yeah, if you find anything like this, i'd appreciate if you or anyone else updates the thread.

i've never heard Ysaye's music before though  :-\
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on April 21, 2007, 04:26:11 AM
oh wait, forget that- i just found a page that has recent updates so i can find anything new myself, and easily  8)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Guido on April 21, 2007, 05:29:10 AM
Excellent. Yes none of those composers will get scores up on that website for many years. Actually, Prokofiev is out of copyright in Canada...
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on May 28, 2007, 02:32:50 PM
new: Shostakovich 5th on IMSLP!

(but it's 26 megabytes and it sorta locks up, so i'm having a hard time saving it)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on May 28, 2007, 02:39:31 PM
Funny, I was checking out their new stuff today too. They've got quite a lot since I last checked a couple of weeks ago - today I concentratedon Ravel. They already had some real gems up there (the Piano Trio, the Duo Sonata, the Violin Sonata...) but they've added most of his songs recently, including the two cycles with ensemble which are among my very favourite Ravel works. Fantastic!
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: The Mad Hatter on May 28, 2007, 02:45:47 PM
I don't touch anything that *might* be inside copyright, just in case.

Still, an astonishing resource.
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on May 28, 2007, 03:01:50 PM
%$#@%$#@%$#@%$#@%$@#^%$#^%$#^%$#

i feel like smashing the computer screen

i have 25.7/26 megabytes of the Shosty 5th score saved, and it freezes up. I go back, and the score is taken off. yay.... it does help to hang around there looking for scores scores that come and go like this, especially when the browser freezes up on you at the last moment (oh, actually i tried saving it 4 or 5 different times and all it did was freeze up)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Maciek on May 28, 2007, 03:11:24 PM
Greg, you should try using a download manager. 0:)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on May 28, 2007, 03:15:45 PM
Yes, you should - I have literally hundreds of files waiting to download from IMSLP on mine, as well as the hundreds already downloaded. So I'm gradually getting scores all the time  8)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on May 29, 2007, 05:12:01 AM
Greg, you should try using a download manager. 0:)
oh, you mean like GetRight? I have that, though i don't use it for IMSLP scores. I've gotten pretty much all the ones i want from there, so i just wait for new gems to be uploaded.
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on June 14, 2007, 05:49:46 AM
does anyone know a quick way of finding out what was recently added (but is not on the recently added list)? They add so many scores a day that the list doesn't show all of them added since the time you check a day ago.

I do know one way, which is to type in the IMSLP# and do a search, but there's too many to search. I can't find a list that shows all the contributions in IMSLP# order.
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on June 26, 2007, 12:02:32 PM
New wonders at IMSLP, as found tonight - yippee!

Amongst other delights, run, don't walk, to snap up more Enescu scores including the 2nd SQ, the Piano Quintet, the Dixtuor, the Impressions d'enfance and, at last, the 3rd Violin Sonata  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Maciek will be happy to see a few Zarebski scores putting in an appearance.

There's been a big influx of Satie pieces including, wondrously, the manuscript of Spprts et divertissements (http://imslp.org/images/3/35/Sports_et_divertissiments.pdf) - for those who haven't seen it, it is one of the wonders of musical calligraphy, like Cage's score amongst other.

One happy score-seeker....

Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Maciek on June 26, 2007, 12:21:21 PM
Thanks for the heads up! And right you are - I'm downloading those Zarebski scores as I write this! I only had a Polonaise and the breathtaking Berceuse until know (never got to buying the Quintet score while it was still cheap... :().

Les Roses et les épines op.13? Wow, that's supposed to be Zarebski's masterpiece - the cycle that is the reason for the comparisons to Debussy. Here's a chance to find out... :D

Thanks again, Luke!
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on June 27, 2007, 01:25:20 AM
...and this one:

http://www.bh2000.net/score/

has a good collection of works by the bigger names - lots of Mozart and Beethoven chamber music, complete piano music of Schubert, Schumann, Brahms etc (I mean complete, down to unfinished works, fragments etc), most of the orchestral work of Tchaikovsky (including the more obscure symphonic poems - though not Fatum - the Suites, Manfred, all three Piano Concerti and so on) and much more too.
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on June 27, 2007, 01:38:34 AM
Thanks for the link, btw, Maciek. I've seen that site before, but not for a while - at least, I don't remember there being so much there.  :o  Another fantastic resource. I've just found, to my delight, the sheet music of the piano sonata and preludes by Pasternak - yes, that Pasternak. I've had a CD of them for years, but the scores have eluded me till now! :)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on June 27, 2007, 04:12:18 AM
so there's no way of being able to keep track of recent additions beyond the list they have on the front page? (besides looking through tons of composers over and over again)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Maciek on June 27, 2007, 04:18:01 AM
The best way to keep track is to ask Luke for regular updates. He seems to be keeping the entire contents list of that site in his head. ;)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on June 27, 2007, 04:37:44 AM
lol!

Ok, Luke (when you read this), just tell me what's new. You know what I like, right? Okay.... these are some of the scores I'm looking for:

Bartok- Concerto for Orchestra (the rest of it!)
Anything by Prokofiev, Schoenberg, Webern, Berg, Shostakovich or Stravinsky
Respighi- Fountains of Rome (orchestrated)
R.Strauss- any tone poem for orchestra
Mahler- sym 2, 7, or 10 (orchestral scores) 10 might be copyright, though

and that's all i can think of for now
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on June 27, 2007, 05:12:00 AM
lol!

Ok, Luke (when you read this), just tell me what's new. You know what I like, right? Okay.... these are some of the scores I'm looking for:

Bartok- Concerto for Orchestra (the rest of it!)
Anything by Prokofiev, Schoenberg, Webern, Berg, Shostakovich or Stravinsky
Respighi- Fountains of Rome (orchestrated)
R.Strauss- any tone poem for orchestra
Mahler- sym 2, 7, or 10 (orchestral scores) 10 might be copyright, though

and that's all i can think of for now

Don Juan is on the site Maciek linked to earlier...Macbeth is somewhere around on the net, though I can't remember where I got it from...

Alternatively, come round my house and we can make copies of most of these pieces (I don't think an 8000 mile round trip is too far for Mahler 10, do you?). I don't have much Prokofiev, but I have plenty/all of the others you mention. ;D
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on June 27, 2007, 05:31:55 AM
Don Juan is on the site Maciek linked to earlier...Macbeth is somewhere around on the net, though I can't remember where I got it from...
you mean the full orchestral score? i can't find it on any of the sites he linked to

Alternatively, come round my house and we can make copies of most of these pieces (I don't think an 8000 mile round trip is too far for Mahler 10, do you?). I don't have much Prokofiev, but I have plenty/all of the others you mention. ;D
lol, sounds pretty far! nah, i think i'll wait until my birthday  ;D
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Guido on June 27, 2007, 07:56:16 AM
Schulhoff stuff up. Copyright in question so save quickly!
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on June 27, 2007, 08:04:23 AM
you mean the full orchestral score? i can't find it on any of the sites he linked to

Well, I thought I'd found it, but it may not be. I haven't downloaded it yet

lol, sounds pretty far! nah, i think i'll wait until my birthday  ;D

And there I was thinking you liked Mahler....
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: lukeottevanger on June 27, 2007, 08:08:36 AM
Don't know about you, but when I read those copyright notices on IMSLP, I can't resist an instinctive shudder when I read the phrase 'except in....where the term is life + 50 years.' Always seems a rather extreme prison sentence for this particular crime at first...until I turn my brain on!  ;D
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: The Mad Hatter on June 27, 2007, 08:24:52 AM
Don't know about you, but when I read those copyright notices on IMSLP, I can't resist an instinctive shudder when I read the phrase 'except in....where the term is life + 50 years.' Always seems a rather extreme prison sentence for this particular crime at first...until I turn my brain on!  ;D

My brain isn't on...can you explain to me why it's not extreme?
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on June 27, 2007, 08:26:10 AM
'except in....where the term is life + 50 years.'
yeah, that'd be sad to see a corpse that's been dead for 50 years in a prison cell
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on June 27, 2007, 08:27:15 AM
"what did that guy do to deserve THAT?"

"he downloaded sheet music that wasn't in public domain from the internet".
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Maciek on June 27, 2007, 01:33:23 PM
R.Strauss- any tone poem for orchestra

They do have a few on IMSLP - just check, not all of them are reductions. E.g.: Also sprach Zarathustra and Macbeth. Perhaps that's about all... ::)

BTW, it's about time you changed the title of this thread to something like "where to download specific scores" or "new scores available for download on old sites" ;).
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Maciek on June 27, 2007, 01:42:17 PM
Oh, and BTW (how many posts in a row does it take to make one look utterly stupid?), I once asked about Smetana piano pieces - there's a bunch of them on IMSLP now, I've found them finally. So here's a new question: does anyone know a place where I can get (download) the Kempff transcription of Bach's Siciliano/Sicilienne (from the Flute Sonata IRRC)?
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Guido on June 27, 2007, 11:23:22 PM
Where are these Schnittke scores?

Haven't checked my college email for a while now... Am doing it as we speak - I have not frgotten about the religion one.
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: greg on June 28, 2007, 04:50:31 AM
They do have a few on IMSLP - just check, not all of them are reductions. E.g.: Also sprach Zarathustra and Macbeth. Perhaps that's about all... ::)
i just checked- thanks for pointing those out! Also Sprach Zarathustra was just added June 19, 9 days ago. I checked before and didn't see it. They do have Macbeth, too, but also Salome. The others are just piano reductions. Hopefully they'll get the complete scores to Don Juan and Death and Transfiguration.

BTW, it's about time you changed the title of this thread to something like "where to download specific scores" or "new scores available for download on old sites" ;).
is it possible to change it from the "beginning"? (make it display that when you see the thread names listed)

And this might be a good place to thank you for the link to that amazing Russian site with all those Schnittke and Shostakovich downloads! Thanks a bunch - that place is a gold mine. They have some Kancheli, Taktashvili, and even a piece by Takemitsu! I wonder what I'll find next!
there was another place with another piece by Takemitsu, also a Russian site. The piece they had was Voice, for flute. It's cool because it's a solo flute piece with speaking, multiphonics, bends, etc. I'll try to find it if i can.
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Maciek on June 28, 2007, 06:05:26 AM
is it possible to change it from the "beginning"? (make it display that when you see the thread names listed)

You have to modify the first post - change its title.
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: karlhenning on June 28, 2007, 06:07:13 AM
And we're waiting, Greg  8)
Title: Re: Where to download specific scores
Post by: greg on June 28, 2007, 06:14:55 AM
done  $:)
Title: Re: Where to download specific scores
Post by: karlhenning on June 28, 2007, 06:22:06 AM
Beauty, eh?
Title: Re: Where to download specific scores
Post by: greg on June 28, 2007, 06:22:44 AM
eh..... yay
Title: Re: Where to download specific scores
Post by: Maciek on June 28, 2007, 07:02:29 AM
Good job! 8)
Title: Re: IMSLP
Post by: Symphonien on June 30, 2007, 02:47:55 AM
Go to:
http://notes.tarakanov.net/composers/sh.htm (http://notes.tarakanov.net/composers/sh.htm)
and look for А. Шнитке. An easy way to find him there would be to use the "search page" option in your browser and look for "Concerto Grosso No1" - that's the first Schnittke piece listed.

Wow! I knew about that site but I never realised they had Schnittke there. I must have just presumed he wouldn't be because he didn't die that long ago. Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Where to download specific scores
Post by: Symphonien on July 08, 2007, 05:21:04 AM
Just to bump this thread up, I've been looking around that Russian site and I thought I'd let you know of a few interesting things I've found there so far. The big discoveries for me were Ligeti's 10 Pieces for Wind Quintet (Awesome! And I like the quote he puts for the final bassoon note - now my signature :)), and Messiaen's Quatuor pour la Fin du Temps and complete Vingt Regards! I've also noticed a couple of early pieces by Gubaidulina and some Penderecki. As well as the aforementioned Kancheli and Takemitsu.

Ahh... the joys of scores...
Title: Re: Where to download specific scores
Post by: Maciek on July 26, 2007, 09:43:32 AM
Anyone know a place where I could download stuff by Karłowicz/Karlowicz (especially the tone poems but I wouldn't mind his songs or VC either) or Moniuszko (mainly the operas but other pieces, especially his songs, would be nice to have too)?
Title: Re: Where to download specific scores
Post by: greg on July 26, 2007, 03:21:31 PM
Anyone know a place where I could download stuff by Karłowicz/Karlowicz (especially the tone poems but I wouldn't mind his songs or VC either) or Moniuszko (mainly the operas but other pieces, especially his songs, would be nice to have too)?
you could probably download in a book format from a publishing company somewhere..... the catch is, they make you pay money.  ;)

IMSLP is on 10,851! isn't that insane?!!!!!!!!!
where's the Prokofiev symphonies now? and the last movement to Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra? come on, people, stop uploading useless junk and get to the good stuff  8)