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Title: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: mikkeljs on July 01, 2008, 04:50:43 AM
I would really like to get some computer programs like fx the UPIC. But I have seen pictures of it, and it looks quite expensive and claumsy. I thought, there might be an updated version of this, or something related, that every one with a low economy can get?
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: greg on July 01, 2008, 08:47:56 AM
I was wondering the same thing....... i bet there isn't. Probably no one uses it anymore, i've done a google search....
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: lukeottevanger on July 01, 2008, 09:18:21 AM
I was wondering the same thing....... i bet there isn't. Probabty no one uses it anymore, i've done a google search....

Not a very good one, then Greg. Number 3 on google when you search 'Xenakis UPIC' leads to this page (http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2006/07/aphex-twin-interview-in-future-music.html) which in turn links to this one (http://iannix.la-kitchen.fr/index.html) from which you can download Iannix, UPIC in a modern reconstruction.
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: greg on July 01, 2008, 10:15:33 AM
Not a very good one, then Greg. Number 3 on google when you search 'Xenakis UPIC' leads to this page (http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2006/07/aphex-twin-interview-in-future-music.html) which in turn links to this one (http://iannix.la-kitchen.fr/index.html) from which you can download Iannix, UPIC in a modern reconstruction.
:o
Awesome!
I have the program open right now......... trying to figure out how to use it, in fact, how to even draw a line in the first place.
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: greg on July 01, 2008, 11:05:08 AM
Ok, I've got the tutorial plus a bunch of examples (how decorative!) I just don't hear any sound playback at all.  :P
You know anything about this program, Luke?
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: lukeottevanger on July 01, 2008, 11:05:59 AM
Nah, I'm just your own personal google wizard  ;D  0:)

but I'm tempted to have a look, though....
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: greg on July 01, 2008, 11:20:51 AM
Nah, I'm just your own personal google wizard  ;D  0:)

but I'm tempted to have a look, though....
please take a look........
right here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=174402

the tutorial is a pdf and the example scores and for the program itself you'll need winrar, or something that opens tgz files. I'm curious to know if it's just my computer where if you open one of these scores, there's no sound. I'm dying to hear them!
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: lukeottevanger on July 01, 2008, 11:31:45 AM
Yes, I've got that far - like you I can't hear anything, but I think we're probably making some fundamental mistake/working under a basic misapprehension here.
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: lukeottevanger on July 01, 2008, 11:41:04 AM
Yes, I don't think this is supposed to playback audio at all. It's a graphical thing, used to create 'scores' in the sense of lines, curves, vectors, points etc. moving in time. I guess it's the sort of thing Xenakis may have used to help him create/plot arboresences. Or something like that. And that one requires that score to be 'plugged into' something else if one wants to hear playback.
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: lukeottevanger on July 01, 2008, 11:48:25 AM
Having said that, I did actually just open a score which squeaked and grunted a little. But that may have been my computer audio playing up - it does that a lot.
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: greg on July 01, 2008, 11:54:40 AM
i think it said something about being played by in different programs, such as c sound.


uggggggghhhhhhh
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: mikkeljs on July 01, 2008, 10:59:20 PM
Not a very good one, then Greg. Number 3 on google when you search 'Xenakis UPIC' leads to this page (http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2006/07/aphex-twin-interview-in-future-music.html) which in turn links to this one (http://iannix.la-kitchen.fr/index.html) from which you can download Iannix, UPIC in a modern reconstruction.

Thanks a lot!  :o I did a google search some months ago and after several  hours I didn´t found anything. Have just installed it and am trying to draw a line...
Title: Re: Xenakis´s UPIC system and related
Post by: lukeottevanger on July 02, 2008, 05:04:41 AM
Thanks a lot!  :o I did a google search some months ago and after several  hours I didn´t found anything. Have just installed it and am trying to draw a line...

Good luck with it! I feel guilty finding it so easily, then - third result on my first search!