Can someone recommend some good recordings of the Carmina Burana? I usually listen to period performances. Or anything that's not too Romantic. Thanks.
Quote from: Perpetual on April 26, 2007, 12:56:22 PM
Can someone recommend some good recordings of the Carmina Burana? I usually listen to period performances. Or anything that's not too Romantic. Thanks.
That's an odd statement in the context of this work. You do realize this is a 20th century work, right? Personally, I have yet to find a recorded performance more compelling that Blomstedt/SFSO on Decca. You can't go wrong with that. No exaggeration or excess, just fine straightforward playing and singing and marvellous attention to detail and color.
Jochum on DGG is excellent, very good soloists. Here is a link to it.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Orff-Carmina-Burana-Carl/dp/B000001GQP/ref=pd_bowtega_1/203-9202049-1711907?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1177622263&sr=1-1
Mike
Quote from: O Mensch on April 26, 2007, 01:00:43 PM
That's an odd statement in the context of this work. You do realize this is a 20th century work, right? Personally, I have yet to find a recorded performance more compelling that Blomstedt/SFSO on Decca. You can't go wrong with that. No exaggeration or excess, just fine straightforward playing and singing and marvellous attention to detail and color.
No, I meant the original one. The one from the Medieval period.
You mean something like this?
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Note, I haven't heard any of these.
Yes, the music from the original manuscript. I want to know if there is a complete recording of all of the songs of the manuscript. (I don't know how many there are exactly are, wikipedia says over 1000 songs and poems)
There's this one with the Ensemble Unicorn on Naxos:
http://www.amazon.com/Carmina-Burana-Ensemble-Unicorn/dp/B00006GO42/ref=sr_1_28/104-7564307-3333512?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1177635189&sr=1-28
Quote from: Xenophanes on April 26, 2007, 04:55:30 PM
There's this one with the Ensemble Unicorn on Naxos:
http://www.amazon.com/Carmina-Burana-Ensemble-Unicorn/dp/B00006GO42/ref=sr_1_28/104-7564307-3333512?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1177635189&sr=1-28
Yes, but it's only a very small portion of the entire manuscript. Right now I can't even find out the exact quantity music in that series. If they only amount to 3 CDs then they are much easier to collect than if they mount to 100 CDs.
Quote from: Perpetual on April 26, 2007, 04:40:47 PM
, wikipedia says over 1000 songs and poems)
I wouldn't take anything written at Wikipedia as gospel truth! ;)
I had a CD of one
Carmina done by an unknown ensemble, but just on one CD. Maybe if you were to do some research about
Karl Orff's work, it will give you the sources he worked with in Kloster Andechs, where, as I remember, the originals are being kept.
There are two that I prefer: Jochum, with Fischer Dieskau, Janowitz and Stolze, with the Berlin Opera, and Stokowski with Houston.
Quote from: Perpetual on April 26, 2007, 04:40:47 PM
Yes, the music from the original manuscript. I want to know if there is a complete recording of all of the songs of the manuscript. (I don't know how many there are exactly are, wikipedia says over 1000 songs and poems)
Only a few of the Carmina are recorded, because the music generally hasn´t survived. In case the music is known, it is in the shape of contrefacta (= parallels in other contexts). Joel Cohen claims, that Rene Clemencic has composed the music for some missing poems, but I don´t know, if this is true of other poems than "Ich was ein chint so wohlgetan". Without claiming to possess the complete survey of the topic, I think the 4 CD set of Pickett (Oiseau Lyre) is as near complete as possible. I would also recommend the 2 CD set of Studio der frühen Musik, München (Telefunken) and the 3CD set of Rene Clemencic (Harmonia Mundi).
But according to this discussion:
http://forum.aceboard.net/175039-1666-3008-0-carmina-Burana-droits-legaux.htm#
Clemencic hasn´t composed anything de novo, but only interpreted the neumes in the relative few cases, where neumes are found in the manuscript.
I only have one recording which I had for many years (probably have the CD since 1984/5) and that is the Telarc disc of Robert Shaw and the Atlanta Symphony and Chorus. The sound is still spectacular after all these years, and the performances are very good too.
Quote from: orbital on April 27, 2007, 06:27:36 AM
I only have one recording which I had for many years (probably have the CD since 1984/5) and that is the Telarc disc of Robert Shaw and the Atlanta Symphony and Chorus. The sound is still spectacular after all these years, and the performances are very good too.
A bit O(r)ff topic.
Quote from: premont on April 27, 2007, 05:55:51 AM
Only a few of the Carmina are recorded, because the music generally hasn´t survived. In case the music is known, it is in the shape of contrefacta (= parallels in other contexts). Joel Cohen claims, that Rene Clemencic has composed the music for some missing poems, but I don´t know, if this is true of other poems than "Ich was ein chint so wohlgetan". Without claiming to possess the complete survey of the topic, I think the 4 CD set of Pickett (Oiseau Lyre) is as near complete as possible. I would also recommend the 2 CD set of Studio der frühen Musik, München (Telefunken) and the 3CD set of Rene Clemencic (Harmonia Mundi).
I didn't know that there is one done by Pickett. I know that he must have done some after listening to his "Sinners and Saints" album. Now his compilation of the Carmina Burana seems very interesting but it's hard to find. Does anyone have a link to where it's available?
When I said "complete" I actually meant all of the pieces that have survived. :)
Quote from: Perpetual on April 26, 2007, 12:56:22 PM
Can someone recommend some good recordings of the Carmina Burana? I usually listen to period performances. Or anything that's not too Romantic. Thanks.
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Quote from: Perpetual on April 26, 2007, 01:35:02 PM
No, I meant the original one. The one from the Medieval period.
Thank goodness for that! ;D
(Maybe you should state that in the thread title, otherwise people keep recommending recordings of that awfull crap that Orff wrote)
Q
Regarding the original Carmina Burana I have the 3 CD of Clemencic. They are delightful but I don't know how much of original music is there and how much was invented by Clemencic.
If I'm not mistaken, there is a selection from the Pickett-set in the Decca Eloquence-series. If it's still available it should be budget-priced, and it might be a nice introduction.
I do remember I once taped one of the CD's on a Music Cassette (Pickett, volume 2[?]), but where did I keep it? :(
I also do remember I once danced around the living room, while listening to the original In taberna (or was it something else .... mmmm, or was I drunk? In love? Both?)
I'm an old man, with uncertain memories. Where is that young man, with no weight on his shoulders?
Iuvenes amoriferi,
virgines amplexamini!
ludos incitat
avium con centus.
:)
Why are 50 percent of the posts on this thread not answering the question..
Do any of you who keep talking about the 20 century work after he clarified he meant the old one actually have eyes?
I have the Clemencic and Cohen performances, and I would recommend both of them. Years ago, I got an LP of some of the Clemencic performances, and that LP was, in part, responsible for getting me hooked on medieval music. I was happy when the CD set came out later. Even if Clemencic reconstructed/composed some of the music, it is still quite satisfying. (Note that in music this old, there is often a lot of reconstruction and composition involved. As long as it works stylistically, I don't mind too much.)
Heather
Quote from: Marc on April 29, 2007, 01:58:16 PM
If I'm not mistaken, there is a selection from the Pickett-set in the Decca Eloquence-series. If it's still available it should be budget-priced, and it might be a nice introduction.
Yes it is available. I want the entire thing, but the four CD set is out of print and I can't even find a seller on Amazon that has them.