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The Diner / Re: USA Politics (redux)
« Last post by k a rl h e nn i ng on Today at 07:08:49 AM »
No, I haven't.

The US as a third World country is a special case and people tend to mistake it as a First World country for this reason, even I did up until recently after having seen how "hopeless" country we are talking about. The US is TOTALLY different third World country than say Ethiopia. The latter is a very poor country while the US is the richest country in the World, but intellectually bankrupt as a society. What happened on January 6th doesn't happen in first World countries. In Alabama many don't have proper sewage systems and due to that have worms (luckily there is ivermectin for that  ;D ). People don't have worms in first World countries. In first World countries the quality of tap water is strictly regulated. This is not the case in many places in the US, but to be fair, Mexico has even worse tap water quality as far as I know. Last winter Texas suffered massive power shortages, because of the lack of regulation. That's not maybe as bad as electrity in Ethiopia, but is certainly isn't first World level either. The US is a third World country because it operates under corporate rule. There is two kinds of poverty: Absolute poverty and relative poverty. The US has a huge relative poverty problem.

Having the agitprop in boldface is helpful.
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Last post by aukhawk on Today at 06:34:06 AM »
( RVW 5 & 7 Haitink / LPO Live )

Are these performances significantly different from the studio recordings? - the Sinfonia antartica is my favourite from that cycle

Not really answering your question but I retrieve this from the Composer thread in 2019 ...

This morning I listened to the live 1984 Haitink/LPO recording of the Antartica - with its (presumably) live real-time organ contribution recorded by (apparently) skilled BBC engineers - and also 'Landscape' from the Manze recording again - all on heaphones unfortunately as I wouldn't want to frighten the horses on this peaceful Sunday morning.
The Haitink recording gives an opportunity to hear how the live contest between full-bore organ and full-bore orchestra could actually pan out.  Firstly, this performance really brings out the Bruckner, who I feel is never that far away during this symphony.  The organ pedal underpinning is (as you would expect) very convincing - generally more powerful than in most other recordings I've listened to (Haitink studio, Boult, Davis/BBC, Leppard, Thomson) but not by any means as full-on as the new Manze recording - which is thrilling in its effect, but too much too soon I feel. Even on headphones this organ seems to move huge masses of air in its bottom octave. 
At the climax in the live recording, the Royal Festival Hall organ is the winner, with the two orchestral swells scarcely registering whilst the bottom end of the organ rasps like an old Triumph twin motorcycle.  Then - at the cymbal crash - there is a none-too-subtle rebalancing act and the orchestra comes slightly to the fore sounding, actually, very good.  For Manze, it is the second (post-cymbal) balance that we hear thoughout the climactic episode, so that the orchestral parts are at all times clear to hear.  The organ too sits 'under' the orchestra in terms of tone colour, rather than competing in the middle register.  There is manipulation of course, but in this recording it's a lot more subtly done (to be fair to the BBC engineers, subtle is not always an option when recording live, however much rehearsal time you've had) - in Manze rather than overt gain-riding or compression the entire 'Landscape' movement is presented at slightly lower level, to allow room for the eventual climax - to hear the whole symphony correctly you would need to edge the volume up just a little for the middle movement only.
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Walton: Symphony No.1
Philharmonia Orchestra
Bernard Haitink

A granitic performance:


Great performance!
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Paul Dukas: Symphony in C maj. Jean Fournet/Netherlands Radio PO.
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Great Recordings and Reviews / Re: New Releases
« Last post by MusicTurner on Today at 06:14:33 AM »
If only Danes would take the potatoes out of their mouths, right?...  :laugh:

Agree, it has definitely become worse in recent decades. Before say 1980, Danish was much clearer and the syllables better articulated, making it more 'classically European' to listen to as well. I haven't seen any attempt at explaining why there is this development, or whether it happens elsewhere.
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Last post by Papy Oli on Today at 05:41:45 AM »
Shostakovich - Symphony No.3 (Kondrashin)
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Last post by kyjo on Today at 05:31:32 AM »
Serenade in F major

Stenhammar was one of those composers who had a remarkable gift to write lovely music, and the Serenade is a strong proof of it. It's interesting to notice how he incorporated touches of Sibelius throughout the score. Endearing stuff.



+1 A superb disc in all regards. I do wish they would’ve included the quirky Reverenza movement from the Serenade, but maybe there wasn’t room for it on the disc.
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Thanks for the info about the RVW, think I will give it a miss. I have the Alwyn album as a lossless download, will have to refresh my memory of the Elizabethan Dances.
Yes, I don't think that you'll be missing out - many prefer the studio recordings. I'd forgotten how enjoyable Alwyn's 'Elizabethan Dances' are.
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Shostakovich: Symphony 10 LPO and the very young Andrew Davis.
Not the most intense performance but has its own lumbering power and integrity. I originally owned the CFP LP:
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General Classical Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Last post by "Harry" on Today at 05:22:16 AM »
Tortellier I or Tortellier II. They are a bit different.

I have and love Tortellier I. One of my great favourites.
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