Post by: Cato on October 24, 2011, 07:14:12 AM
GMG Member "Anne" has been missing since the early summer: she liked opera quite a bit, and I was in contact with her now and then.
She also had, from what I could gather, emphysema from a bad decision made in her teenaged years, and also other ailments. I have sent her a few messages, but no response, so I am wondering if she is in even worse condition.
Post by: Mn Dave on October 25, 2011, 12:16:42 PM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 25, 2011, 12:20:11 PM
Scarpia?
When he stopped posting, I periodically checked his profile. I think he was last active in June, last post in April (?). But when I checked last week, he was no longer in the members list (unless he changed his name). That means, I assume, that after a long silence he finally deleted his account. Odd. Nothing in his last messages indicated anything was wrong. I miss the dude. And my bazooka is getting rusty.
Sarge
Post by: Grazioso on October 27, 2011, 04:33:06 AM
Post by: Mn Dave on October 27, 2011, 04:33:49 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 27, 2011, 04:38:41 AM
I don't have access to the stats, so am I imagining things when it seems like things are slower around here in general? :(
Not slower than last year but slower than years previous to 2010. Total posts:
2011 93265
2010 96337
2009 122848
2008 134743
2007 124146
Sarge
Post by: Mn Dave on October 27, 2011, 04:39:53 AM
Post by: Grazioso on October 27, 2011, 04:40:31 AM
Looks like there has indeed been a significant drop in posts from last month to this, though there are still a few days left.
Post by: Mn Dave on October 27, 2011, 04:50:57 AM
I take that back: I do have access to the stats, down at the bottom of the main page.
Looks like there has indeed been a significant drop in posts from last month to this, though there are still a few days left.
With Karl gone, there is no hope!
Post by: chasmaniac on October 27, 2011, 04:51:15 AM
When I was forty-fiiiiive, it was a very good year...
Let's post again, like we did last summa...! 8)
Post by: Mn Dave on October 27, 2011, 05:07:06 AM
Post by: Dundonnell on October 27, 2011, 05:45:58 AM
After a two year break I returned here a couple of months ago and started a number of threads about lesser-known composers: the area I mainly dealt in when I was active between 2007 and 2009.
I hope/d through these to encourage some interest in these composers.
My threads on Boris Blacher got 4 replies, Wilfred Josephs 2, Hans Gal 5, Halvor Haug 7, Randall Thompson 7 and Paul von Klenau precisely zero. Some of these replies were actually from me responding to a
comment.
There comes a point when one begins to wonder whether it is actually worth posting at all about the sort of composers who interest me :( I-frankly-am not terribly interested in commenting about the 25th version
of a Mahler symphony which someone has bought....but that is just me ;D
There is no shortage of comments, on the other hand, in the Havergal Brian thread.
Somewhat discouraged, I joined the "Unsung Composers" Forum where there is much more discussion of lesser-known composers. That is a rather more focussed forum obviously.
I don't want to leave GMG....for one(very important) thing I have made some very good friends here and have met several of them in person. On the other hand I am likely to be posting less and probably unlikely
to be starting threads :(
Well.........at least you have a response from someone who is contributing to the fall in numbers.
Post by: Mn Dave on October 27, 2011, 06:33:49 AM
I don't want to leave GMG....for one(very important) thing I have made some very good friends here and have met several of them in person.
Yep, that's about the only reason I hang around. I no longer care to discuss or compare recordings which is more than half the discussion here, or it seems that way to me.
Post by: The new erato on October 27, 2011, 06:54:34 AM
well I'm always interested in your posts, and read them all. But this stuff needs to be bought and listened to....and that takes time. My buying que and listening que are long (and until I've listened I have little to say), but don't think for a minute that your posts go unnoticed. You will find my comments on Klenaus Cornett in the listening thread....and I could have commented on Randall Thompson, except that I hadn't the time to move the Koch disc of symphonies up in the que; it's been 10 years since I last heard it, and lots of other stuff is fighting for attention .....but your post certainly made me notice it, and it will be played again, which it probably wouldn't have been if it hadn't been for your thread.
My threads on Boris Blacher got 4 replies, Wilfred Josephs 2, Hans Gal 5, Halvor Haug 7, Randall Thompson 7 and Paul von Klenau precisely zero. Some of these replies were actually from me responding to a
comment.
Post by: cilgwyn on October 27, 2011, 07:52:31 AM
Room for a pretender? (I don't think the 'Cockney Wagner's' been done & that new Dutton cd of Holbrooke is grrrrrrrrreeeeat! I'm finally impressed! ;D)
But,I don't like home work! :(
Post by: cilgwyn on October 27, 2011, 07:56:40 AM
The eccentrics have quieted down a bit.
And now you've got me.
This should help! ;D
Post by: Christo on October 27, 2011, 08:14:44 AM
(runs away) 8)
Post by: Mn Dave on October 27, 2011, 08:20:37 AM
And now you've got me.
This should help! ;D
I see you now. You've been hiding in the British composers threads, eh?
Post by: cilgwyn on October 27, 2011, 08:44:37 AM
Post by: Cato on October 27, 2011, 09:35:34 AM
Ok..let me be honest and make a confession ;D
After a two year break I returned here a couple of months ago and started a number of threads about lesser-known composers: the area I mainly dealt in when I was active between 2007 and 2009.
I hope/d through these to encourage some interest in these composers.
My threads on Boris Blacher got 4 replies, Wilfred Josephs 2, Hans Gal 5, Halvor Haug 7, Randall Thompson 7 and Paul von Klenau precisely zero. Some of these replies were actually from me responding to a
comment.
I feel bad about a topic with no responses, and if I have anything worthwhile, I will comment.
Part of my problem is simply lack of funds and opportunity to experience Unsung Composers: I explored all sorts of composers decades ago, but now with "somebody" in the house already grumping about the number of CD's (Mp3 downloads I am not yet sold on, even though I own a Macintosh) and other materials overcrowding the house (i.e. the books in the vast Cato Archives, the tragic result of having 4 majors and teaching fields, not to mention the avocations of Music, Quantum Physics, Theology, etc.), even if I did have the funds and the space, I still might not have the free time and free space to explore composers like I used to.
So I would like to join your romp through esoterica in an attempt to transform the esoterica into exoterica. But...
Post by: Grazioso on October 27, 2011, 09:53:20 AM
Ok..let me be honest and make a confession ;D
After a two year break I returned here a couple of months ago and started a number of threads about lesser-known composers: the area I mainly dealt in when I was active between 2007 and 2009.
I hope/d through these to encourage some interest in these composers.
My threads on Boris Blacher got 4 replies, Wilfred Josephs 2, Hans Gal 5, Halvor Haug 7, Randall Thompson 7 and Paul von Klenau precisely zero. Some of these replies were actually from me responding to a
comment.
There comes a point when one begins to wonder whether it is actually worth posting at all about the sort of composers who interest me :( I-frankly-am not terribly interested in commenting about the 25th version
of a Mahler symphony which someone has bought....but that is just me ;D
Not just you :)
Quote
There is no shortage of comments, on the other hand, in the Havergal Brian thread.
Somewhat discouraged, I joined the "Unsung Composers" Forum where there is much more discussion of lesser-known composers. That is a rather more focussed forum obviously.
I don't want to leave GMG....for one(very important) thing I have made some very good friends here and have met several of them in person. On the other hand I am likely to be posting less and probably unlikely
to be starting threads :(
Well.........at least you have a response from someone who is contributing to the fall in numbers.
I feel you, so to speak. Please know, though, that I've read quite a few of your posts with interest but have had nothing of substance or originality to add and therefore have remained silent--no point posting just to hear the sound of my own voice. I've been trying to make a habit of only posting when I have something to say that might be interesting, might provoke some discussion, or at the very least might be funny or entertaining. A simple "I bought/listened to this" or "nice!" doesn't seem very interesting or educational to me.
I hope you do stick around and keep posting interesting things. Don't be discouraged by the occasional chirping crickets! If people like you gave up posting here, then the forum would likely devolve into a glorified chat room. Keep it smart, hip us to new things.
Post by: Brewski on October 27, 2011, 10:12:39 AM
I feel you, so to speak. Please know, though, that I've read quite a few of your posts with interest but have had nothing of substance or originality to add and therefore have remained silent--no point posting just to hear the sound of my own voice. I've been trying to make a habit of only posting when I have something to say that might be interesting, might provoke some discussion, or at the very least might be funny or entertaining. A simple "I bought/listened to this" or "nice!" doesn't seem very interesting or educational to me.
I hope you do stick around and keep posting interesting things. Don't be discouraged by the occasional chirping crickets! If people like you gave up posting here, then the forum would likely devolve into a glorified chat room. Keep it smart, hip us to new things.
I feel similarly. Often I'll read your posts (and others) with great interest, but don't feel the need to post unless I can add to the discussion. (Although people probably appreciate a "thanks for the good post" now and then.)
Plus, this board has gotten so large that frankly, it's difficult to keep up with all that's going on (for those of us who are a bit time-challenged lately)!
--Bruce
Post by: Opus106 on October 27, 2011, 10:18:51 AM
Not just you :)
I feel you, so to speak. Please know, though, that I've read quite a few of your posts with interest but have had nothing of substance or originality to add and therefore have remained silent--no point posting just to hear the sound of my own voice. I've been trying to make a habit of only posting when I have something to say that might be interesting, might provoke some discussion, or at the very least might be funny or entertaining. A simple "I bought/listened to this" or "nice!" doesn't seem very interesting or educational to me.
I hope you do stick around and keep posting interesting things. Don't be discouraged by the occasional chirping crickets! If people like you gave up posting here, then the forum would likely devolve into a glorified chat room. Keep it smart, hip us to new things.
He had the same things to say that I had in mind. :)
Post by: Mn Dave on October 27, 2011, 11:57:54 AM
Not that I'm speaking of anyone present. ;D
Post by: cilgwyn on October 27, 2011, 12:24:22 PM
Ok..let me be honest and make a confession ;D
After a two year break I returned here a couple of months ago and started a number of threads about lesser-known composers: the area I mainly dealt in when I was active between 2007 and 2009.
I hope/d through these to encourage some interest in these composers.
My threads on Boris Blacher got 4 replies, Wilfred Josephs 2, Hans Gal 5, Halvor Haug 7, Randall Thompson 7 and Paul von Klenau precisely zero. Some of these replies were actually from me responding to a
comment.
There comes a point when one begins to wonder whether it is actually worth posting at all about the sort of composers who interest me :( I-frankly-am not terribly interested in commenting about the 25th version
of a Mahler symphony which someone has bought....but that is just me ;D
There is no shortage of comments, on the other hand, in the Havergal Brian thread.
Somewhat discouraged, I joined the "Unsung Composers" Forum where there is much more discussion of lesser-known composers. That is a rather more focussed forum obviously.
I don't want to leave GMG....for one(very important) thing I have made some very good friends here and have met several of them in person. On the other hand I am likely to be posting less and probably unlikely
to be starting threads :(
Well.........at least you have a response from someone who is contributing to the fall in numbers.
I'm going to have to 'roll up my sleeves' and put up that 'Mathias' thread! :(
Joseph Holbrooke,the so called 'Cock-er-nee Wagner',he's another one!!!!
Not sure if I can add anything new or original to the Mahler debate,much as I enjoy his music! :( :(
But I prefer it here meeself! :)
Have to say that two replies to a thread about Wilfred Joseph is quite allot,considering he's not exactly a well known composer. If I posted a thread about the elusive Gaze Cooper I would be very pleased to have even one reply! In fact,with a Cameo cd,including a short piece of his, & rumours of a forthcoming recording of a Piano Concerto,I,or someone else, may,(hopefully soon) have reason to do so?
Dundonnells observation about the Havergal Brian thread reminded me of a rather sarcastic comment about Brian,some years ago,which (roughly) described Brian as the 'most overrated underrated,least neglect neglected composer' of all time'. As a regular contributor the the HB thread,I don't agree specifically with that statement,but I do,somewhat, understand the exasperation of the writer (this was written quite a few years ago when Bantock & his like were still just names in musty old books!).
Post by: Dundonnell on October 27, 2011, 04:57:36 PM
Actually, it is quite amusing and, of course, ironic to go from a situation where I was rather rudely and, in my opinion, very unfairly attacked on here as an apostle of tonal romanticism whose motivation was to
deter people from listening to atonal music to one in which I appear to be an apostle of 20th century modernism surrounded-on that other board-by devotees of late 19th century high romanticism ;D ;D
Since a number of members have, extremely kindly, said that they enjoyed reading about less well-known composers I shall continue-from time to time-to raise the 'odd name' ;D
Sorry, cilgwyn ;D
Post by: kishnevi on October 27, 2011, 06:45:03 PM
Ok..let me be honest and make a confession ;D
After a two year break I returned here a couple of months ago and started a number of threads about lesser-known composers: the area I mainly dealt in when I was active between 2007 and 2009.
I hope/d through these to encourage some interest in these composers.
My threads on Boris Blacher got 4 replies, Wilfred Josephs 2, Hans Gal 5, Halvor Haug 7, Randall Thompson 7 and Paul von Klenau precisely zero. Some of these replies were actually from me responding to a
comment.
There comes a point when one begins to wonder whether it is actually worth posting at all about the sort of composers who interest me :( I-frankly-am not terribly interested in commenting about the 25th version
of a Mahler symphony which someone has bought....but that is just me ;D
There is no shortage of comments, on the other hand, in the Havergal Brian thread.
Somewhat discouraged, I joined the "Unsung Composers" Forum where there is much more discussion of lesser-known composers. That is a rather more focussed forum obviously.
I don't want to leave GMG....for one(very important) thing I have made some very good friends here and have met several of them in person. On the other hand I am likely to be posting less and probably unlikely
to be starting threads :(
Well.........at least you have a response from someone who is contributing to the fall in numbers.
Part of that lack of response is probably due to those composers obscurity. Of all the ones you just mentioned, I had heard of only one before reading your post--Gal, and that was because Jens had started to advocate on his behalf. So I obviously would have nothing to contribute to the discussion. (To be honest, I don't even remember noting the threads you started, for which I apologize.)
As Cato and Erato mentioned, money and time constraints can do a number, and keep us from getting to know these lesser known composers; part of the fun of GMG is hearing about musicians who are new to us. (If it wasn't for GMG, for example, I would never have heard of Havergal Brian.) As one of those people who almost qualifies for the 25 recordings of a Mahler symphony (I'm pretty sure I've topped 20 with the Second and Ninth)--well, you're probably right. I've decided to concentrate for the next while on composers I'm not familiar with--primarily the period 1800-1850, but also later romantics, and lesser known Baroque composers. My holdings of Wolf-Ferrari have gone from 0 to 3 in the last two weeks*, for example, and I'll be exploring further. But it's members like you who make that exploration possible, even if I'm not openly involved in the discussions.
And I do have an idea which I hope to unveil rather soon which might please you along those lines--I was waiting for the forum upgrade and related issues to settle down before starting, but now there seems nothing in the way except a final runthrough with the blue pencil.
*and I may as well put in a good shout out here for CPO's recordings of his orchestral works, especially the concertos.
Post by: SonicMan46 on October 27, 2011, 07:05:49 PM
The previous topic with this title has no "Reply" button any longer, so I am starting a new one.
GMG Member "Anne" has been missing since the early summer: she liked opera quite a bit, and I was in contact with her now and then.
She also had, from what I could gather, emphysema from a bad decision made in her teenaged years, and also other ailments. I have sent her a few messages, but no response, so I am wondering if she is in even worse condition.
Hi Cato - concerning Anne, I'm not sure what her current status may be? We exchanged many PMs both related to her health issues (me being a physician) and also to our mutual interest in medical history books (actually she mailed me a copy of a book on William Osler that she had mistakenly bought twice, and I sent her a couple of radiology books that I had edited); in fact, my wife Susan (i.e. Harpo) was also in contact w/ her - then all communication seem to stop - would love to hear that she is still doing well but her lung problem was quite serious - Dave :)
Post by: cilgwyn on October 28, 2011, 06:08:25 AM
It is actually very flattering and pleasant to read most of these comments on my posts :) I shall pretend that Mn Dave's comment is not directed at me ;D
Actually, it is quite amusing and, of course, ironic to go from a situation where I was rather rudely and, in my opinion, very unfairly attacked on here as an apostle of tonal romanticism whose motivation was to
deter people from listening to atonal music to one in which I appear to be an apostle of 20th century modernism surrounded-on that other board-by devotees of late 19th century high romanticism ;D ;D
Since a number of members have, extremely kindly, said that they enjoyed reading about less well-known composers I shall continue-from time to time-to raise the 'odd name' ;D
Sorry, cilgwyn ;D
When I finally put up a neglected composer thread and I get one reply I'll be thinking of you,Dundonnell! :(
What about Holbrooke? Intriguing as I find the supposed 'Cockney Wagner',(particularly as a person) I'm never quite convinced by what I get to hear from the fruits of his toil and sweat! :o But the music on the new Dutton cd was an unexpected delight. I really DID actually enjoy every note it! :)
Mathias,who has been criticised for being populistic and often a bit bland is another poor homeless sod without a thread. Yet,the new Somm cd of his first two piano concerto's has had a very good review in IRR. (But then they gave that horrid Y*** B**** cd a good review,too! :o )
Three replies each and I'll be on a b***** roll! ;D
Post by: cilgwyn on October 28, 2011, 06:11:29 AM
(Who he,ed?)
Post by: Mn Dave on October 28, 2011, 06:12:11 AM
I shall pretend that Mn Dave's comment is not directed at me...
Pretending is not necessary. It was not directed at you, nor anyone in particular.
Post by: cilgwyn on October 28, 2011, 06:14:12 AM
Post by: Mn Dave on October 28, 2011, 06:16:24 AM
Post by: cilgwyn on October 28, 2011, 07:59:07 AM
Post by: Brahmsian on November 04, 2011, 05:05:28 AM
Post by: Brewski on November 04, 2011, 11:07:48 AM
Is Philo gone? :(
Nope, still here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=profile;u=6089
--Bruce
Post by: Cato on November 04, 2011, 05:09:23 PM
Hi Cato - concerning Anne, I'm not sure what her current status may be? We exchanged many PMs both related to her health issues (me being a physician) and also to our mutual interest in medical history books (actually she mailed me a copy of a book on William Osler that she had mistakenly bought twice, and I sent her a couple of radiology books that I had edited); in fact, my wife Susan (i.e. Harpo) was also in contact w/ her - then all communication seem to stop - would love to hear that she is still doing well but her lung problem was quite serious - Dave :)
Many thanks for the information! Yes, I think she had energy problems, and found even typing fatiguing.
Post by: Bogey on November 06, 2011, 05:57:06 PM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on November 06, 2011, 06:05:03 PM
Muriel?
Doesn't do Internet any more. Sad to say.
8)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 06, 2011, 06:09:03 PM
Muriel?
Not an answer to this, but . . . . (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,220.msg573691.html#msg573691)
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on November 08, 2011, 01:49:48 AM
well I'm always interested in your posts, and read them all. But this stuff needs to be bought and listened to....and that takes time. My buying que and listening que are long (and until I've listened I have little to say), but don't think for a minute that your posts go unnoticed. You will find my comments on Klenaus Cornett in the listening thread....and I could have commented on Randall Thompson, except that I hadn't the time to move the Koch disc of symphonies up in the que; it's been 10 years since I last heard it, and lots of other stuff is fighting for attention .....but your post certainly made me notice it, and it will be played again, which it probably wouldn't have been if it hadn't been for your thread.
I have to side with Erato in this, saw this somewhat belated, but I certainly read your postings about for instance Klenau, both his Symphonies and SQ, and some other works, the rest of the composers you mentioned I have bought, or are in my que like with Erato.
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on November 08, 2011, 01:55:52 AM
<Edit he is on line> Well maybe he felt that I was calling out his name. lol!
Post by: Florestan on November 08, 2011, 05:04:06 AM
That's an overreaction. Why don't you just skip what you find unpleasant instead of leaving and thus depriving us of your own valuable contributions?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 08, 2011, 05:20:25 AM
@ Grazioso
That's an overreaction. Why don't you just skip what you find unpleasant instead of leaving and thus depriving us of your own valuable contributions?
Hear, hear.
Post by: Opus106 on November 08, 2011, 05:38:10 AM
@ Grazioso
That's an overreaction. Why don't you just skip what you find unpleasant instead of leaving and thus depriving us of your own valuable contributions?
Sometimes the skipping becomes a task in itself. :)
Post by: Dundonnell on November 08, 2011, 04:23:15 PM
I have to side with Erato in this, saw this somewhat belated, but I certainly read your postings about for instance Klenau, both his Symphonies and SQ, and some other works, the rest of the composers you mentioned I have bought, or are in my que like with Erato.
Thank you both for your very kind remarks :)
At the present time I am so incredibly busy digitising the British music in my collection of reel-to-reel tapes and uploading mp3 versions for the exclusive use of members of another site that I simply cannot find time to post about any more 'obscure composers'. I had hoped to write about another fine but largely unsung Norwegian composer-Ragnar Soderlind-but this will have to wait, I regret to say :(
Post by: Bogey on November 08, 2011, 07:14:32 PM
Thank you both for your very kind remarks :)
At the present time I am so incredibly busy digitising the British music in my collection of reel-to-reel tapes and uploading mp3 versions for the exclusive use of members of another site that I simply cannot find time to post about any more 'obscure composers'. I had hoped to write about another fine but largely unsung Norwegian composer-Ragnar Soderlind-but this will have to wait, I regret to say :(
Would love to see a shot of your Reel to Reel....when you have time. :)
Post by: Bogey on November 08, 2011, 07:15:16 PM
Doesn't do Internet any more. Sad to say.
8)
Our loss. Her gain.
Post by: Dundonnell on November 09, 2011, 05:28:58 AM
Would love to see a shot of your Reel to Reel....when you have time. :)
Not mine....but the same model:
http://www.johansoldradios.se/tape-recorders/grundig-tk-14 (http://www.johansoldradios.se/tape-recorders/grundig-tk-14)
Post by: DavidRoss on November 09, 2011, 06:47:17 PM
Really, guys, I miss Anne, too...and Rena...and Muriel. (Though I sort of keep up to date with Rena via Facebook. Muriel and I kept up with emails for a couple of years, but we haven't swapped messages in quite a while.) Heck, I even miss Mike Forever. (Don't call me Mike. It's M! M Forever!) He's still castigating the victimized sort elsewhere, but it's hardly the same.
I presume I'm not the only one who has said most of what I have to say about X's 43rd Symphony or Y's Kazoo Concerto so many times already that I'm not interested in what I have to say about it, and I suspect few others are, either. Anyone who's that interested is welcome to look through the thousands of old posts on the site, or on the old forum that's still archived (at least it was the last time I looked--and I do go there occasionally to look something up from the past).
As for "new," obscure (or at least relatively uncelebrated) composers--that interest is what drew me to this site in the first place. But after a few years of following up the latest enthusiasm, I can't say that there's a single one of the "unknowns" who has captured and held my interest. On the other hand, during my time here I've come to greater appreciation of damned near every composer in the book, even the best known and most beloved, but especially the 2nd and 3rd tier sorts like Dvořák and RVW--largely through the impassioned posts of a persuasive champion who's encouraged me to take a deeper or broader listen to such fellows.
As for the many inveterate collectors who enjoy acquiring and discussing various recorded performances of Beethoven's Quartets or Schoenberg's Polkas, they certainly have their place, too, and these discussions and recommendations have also opened my ears to new or hitherto overlooked beauties. Certainly there are some collectors whose comments have never seemed to go much beyond, "Look what I got today!"--but I'm free to pay them no mind and the ignore button makes it especially easy to avoid the most persistent irritants.
One of the things that attracted me to GMG right away was the community of far-flung souls joined by a common interest, some of whom are folks I'd probably have lunch or coffee with frequently if we didn't live on different continents (and in some cases, perhaps, different universes!). Many members here are charming and convivial and have great senses of humor--even if I don't get all the jokes and allusions (I'm too old to keep up with the pop culture flavor of the week, but there are enough old codgers like me to be sure that I'll get some jokes, and some folks will even get mine!)
In short, I doubt I'm the only one who finds much to value in the camaraderie and warmth I find here. In my opinion it's the most consistently enjoyable and enlightening classical music community on the web. And it's the members who make it that way and who keep drawing me back, despite the occasional months-long hiatus.
Cheers, y'all! ;D
Post by: Cato on November 09, 2011, 07:20:09 PM
Really, guys, I miss Anne, too...and Rena...and Muriel. (Though I sort of keep up to date with Rena via Facebook. Muriel and I kept up with emails for a couple of years, but we haven't swapped messages in quite a while.) Heck, I even miss Mike Forever. (Don't call me Mike. It's M! M Forever!) He's still castigating the victimized sort elsewhere, but it's hardly the same.
One of the things that attracted me to GMG right away was the community of far-flung souls joined by a common interest, some of whom are folks I'd probably have lunch or coffee with frequently if we didn't live on different continents (and in some cases, perhaps, different universes!). Many members here are charming and convivial and have great senses of humor--even if I don't get all the jokes and allusions (I'm too old to keep up with the pop culture flavor of the week, but there are enough old codgers like me to be sure that I'll get some jokes, and some folks will even get mine!)
In short, I doubt I'm the only one who finds much to value in the camaraderie and warmth I find here. In my opinion it's the most consistently enjoyable and enlightening classical music community on the web. And it's the members who make it that way and who keep drawing me back, despite the occasional months-long hiatus.
Cheers, y'all! ;D
0:) 0:) 0:) 0:)
A m e n !
Hooray for us! Yes, as I mentioned earlier, it is financially and maritally :o impossible to follow every recommendation!
I have in recent years re-discovered e.g Jan Kalliwoda and for the first time discovered the incredible Sergei Protopopov through people here at GMG.
Post by: Bogey on November 09, 2011, 07:26:01 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on November 10, 2011, 11:17:07 AM
Post by: cilgwyn on November 10, 2011, 11:53:55 AM
Thank you both for your very kind remarks :)
At the present time I am so incredibly busy digitising the British music in my collection of reel-to-reel tapes and uploading mp3 versions for the exclusive use of members of another site that I simply cannot find time to post about any more 'obscure composers'. I had hoped to write about another fine but largely unsung Norwegian composer-Ragnar Soderlind-but this will have to wait, I regret to say :(
Now's my chance!
Anyone for an August Bungert thread?
Post by: DavidRoss on November 10, 2011, 12:04:58 PM
Now's my chance!Not another August Bungert thread!
Anyone for an August Bungert thread?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 10, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
Wax pedantic or don't.
I sing the wax pedantic . . . .
Post by: Ataraxia on November 10, 2011, 12:30:48 PM
I sing the wax pedantic . . . .
:)
Post by: mc ukrneal on November 11, 2011, 01:35:13 PM
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on November 11, 2011, 02:00:28 PM
I notice that Sarge has been MIA for a week now. Anyone keep in contact with him via other means? Everything ok there?
Sarge is buried under all the CD'S he ordered this year, he is forced to listen first, before he can reach the computer again. ;D ;D
Post by: Brahmsian on November 12, 2011, 06:20:09 AM
Post by: DavidRoss on November 12, 2011, 06:51:25 AM
Sarge is busy negotiating a new long-term contract with the hardest working postwoman in Germany! :D:)
Post by: DavidRoss on November 12, 2011, 06:54:34 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on November 12, 2011, 08:10:57 AM
Does anyone else reflexively check his own crotch when he sees the title of this thread?
Again, we return to zombies.
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 15, 2011, 09:03:56 AM
Sarge
Post by: Opus106 on November 15, 2011, 09:09:35 AM
As for Wooster and Jeeves: perfect panacea.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 15, 2011, 09:15:21 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 15, 2011, 09:27:30 AM
Sergeant Rock, indeed! Welcome back. :)
As for Wooster and Jeeves: perfect panacea.
Warm welcome back, lad!
Halloa! Halloa! Halloa! What?
Sarge
Post by: Brahmsian on November 15, 2011, 09:31:23 AM
Very happy to hear you are doing well, and feeling better! :)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 15, 2011, 10:16:42 AM
Welcome back, Sargeant!
Very happy to hear you are doing well, and feeling better! :)
What ho, Nut!
Sarge
Post by: The new erato on November 15, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
Post by: DavidRoss on November 15, 2011, 12:40:02 PM
Again, we return to zombies.:D
Conclusion the same as always: I've got a sterling ticker.Glad to hear it!
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on November 15, 2011, 12:40:58 PM
Welcome back my friend.
Post by: DavidRoss on November 15, 2011, 12:41:34 PM
Again, we return to zombies.:D
Conclusion the same as always: I've got a sterling ticker.Glad to hear it!
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 15, 2011, 12:51:57 PM
(http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/tickertape2.jpg)
Post by: mc ukrneal on November 15, 2011, 01:04:44 PM
I'm back. I had my biennial heart scare and the German socialized medical system decided to keep me 11 days with exhaustive, and exhausting, tests and probes and "what not" (I read a lot of Wooster and Jeeves on the Kindle while relaxing in my beautiful two bed suite ;D ). Conclusion the same as always: I've got a sterling ticker. Apparently it just likes to freak me out every two years or so.That's great to hear. Probably been oggling too many like this...ooops! :)
Sarge
(http://www.goremasternews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rachel-Nichols-as-Tamara.jpg)
Post by: Ataraxia on November 15, 2011, 01:33:13 PM
Post by: DavidRoss on November 15, 2011, 01:53:29 PM
That's great to hear. Probably been oggling too many like this...ooops! :)Is that Sarge's postwoman?
(http://www.goremasternews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rachel-Nichols-as-Tamara.jpg)
No wonder his heart is palpitating!
Post by: Elgarian on November 15, 2011, 02:34:26 PM
I'm back. I had my biennial heart scare and the German socialized medical system decided to keep me 11 days with exhaustive, and exhausting, tests and probes and "what not" (I read a lot of Wooster and Jeeves on the Kindle while relaxing in my beautiful two bed suite ;D ). Conclusion the same as always: I've got a sterling ticker. Apparently it just likes to freak me out every two years or so.
Sarge
Glad to hear all's well, Sarge. Wagala weia! Wallala, weiala weia!
(Or words to that effect.)
Post by: kishnevi on November 15, 2011, 07:12:22 PM
Warm welcome back, lad!
Pounded the table so much I need to go out and buy a new one.
Post by: Brian on November 17, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
I'm back. I had my biennial heart scare and the German socialized medical system decided to keep me 11 days with exhaustive, and exhausting, tests and probes and "what not" (I read a lot of Wooster and Jeeves on the Kindle while relaxing in my beautiful two bed suite ;D ). Conclusion the same as always: I've got a sterling ticker. Apparently it just likes to freak me out every two years or so.
Sarge
Very glad to hear this. I was getting really worried and compounding that with feeling guilty about not doing a better job finding out what was happening. Welcome back!
Post by: Marc on November 17, 2011, 08:37:28 PM
I'm back. I had my biennial heart scare and the German socialized medical system decided to keep me 11 days with exhaustive, and exhausting, tests and probes and "what not" (I read a lot of Wooster and Jeeves on the Kindle while relaxing in my beautiful two bed suite ;D ). Conclusion the same as always: I've got a sterling ticker. Apparently it just likes to freak me out every two years or so.
Welcome back!
I won't post any pics of Annabella Lwin to celebrate this return, though. For the moment: just dream of her, OK? ;D
Post by: Wanderer on November 18, 2011, 12:01:11 AM
Post by: Bogey on November 19, 2011, 08:24:18 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 19, 2011, 09:31:32 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on March 07, 2012, 06:12:14 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 07, 2012, 06:19:10 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 07, 2012, 06:37:57 AM
Reminds me … of that ancient Egyptian whose name makes me think "hot, cheap suit"…
Tut, tut, Karl... :D
8)
Post by: Ataraxia on March 07, 2012, 06:39:24 AM
Cato is keeping busy; continues well. That Real Life thang . . . .
Oh, that.
Post by: Scion7 on March 07, 2012, 05:32:04 PM
:o
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 07, 2012, 05:38:02 PM
boy, did I misread what this thread was about!
:o
Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, if you were tuning in to see the John Wayne Bobbitt memorial, please be advised that it is airing on BBC 3.... :D
8)
Post by: mc ukrneal on March 09, 2012, 12:53:31 PM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 09, 2012, 12:57:08 PM
Anyone know what happened to DavidRoss? I hope he is ok.
David splits his time between here and another forum. Usually he stays on one or the other at any given time, rather than both at once. I expect he will be along soon. I miss him too, I haven't had much to moderate lately.... :D
8)
Post by: Ataraxia on March 09, 2012, 12:57:50 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on March 09, 2012, 08:52:59 PM
Post by: Philoctetes on March 09, 2012, 08:57:35 PM
I really miss Saul....NOT!!! I know Brian has been busy, but I miss his posts and Luke doesn't post that often but when he does he always finds something interesting to say (unlike me). Another member I miss is Haydnguy or HaydnFan, I can't remember. I also miss Sid very much. He and I had several disagreements, but I considered him a friend.
Sid's not coming back before he left though he sent me a very nice message. :)
Post by: Mirror Image on March 09, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
Sid's not coming back before he left though he sent me a very nice message. :)
Yeah, I kind of figured he isn't either, but this doesn't stop me from missing his posts. He and I had many personal messages sent back and forth. He's a good guy for sure.
Post by: Mirror Image on March 09, 2012, 09:21:10 PM
Post by: Philoctetes on March 09, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
Yeah, I kind of figured he isn't either, but this doesn't stop me from missing his posts. He and I had many personal messages sent back and forth. He's a good guy for sure.
Indeed. He was one of my few contemporary cohorts.
Post by: Scots John on March 11, 2012, 03:15:47 AM
Post by: Opus106 on March 11, 2012, 03:56:46 AM
Florestan? :(
He's not so much missing as he is simply quiet compared to usual.
Post by: Florestan on March 12, 2012, 07:40:04 AM
He's not so much missing as he is simply quiet compared to usual.
Exactly. But it feels very good to know that I'm missed. Thanks, guys, love you too! :-*
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 12, 2012, 07:46:16 AM
Post by: madaboutmahler on March 12, 2012, 12:45:51 PM
Another member I miss is Ray (ChamberNut). I wonder what's happened to him. I'm friends with him on Facebook, but I haven't seen any activity from him in quite some time.
Yes... I was wondering where Ray is too... I haven't seen him here or on facebook for quite a while. Hope he gets back soon.
Post by: Opus106 on March 17, 2012, 07:57:57 AM
Post by: springrite on March 17, 2012, 08:09:05 AM
Another member I miss is Ray (ChamberNut). I wonder what's happened to him. I'm friends with him on Facebook, but I haven't seen any activity from him in quite some time.
With hockey finally back in Winnipeg and the Mosquitos .... I mean the JETS within 2 points of a playoff spot, maybe Ray decided to concentrate on hockey for a few weeks and, hopefully, a couple of months. Two-For-Roughing and Five-For-Fighting and a Ten-Minute-Misconduct don't go well with chamber music, as you know.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 17, 2012, 08:52:00 AM
I sincerely hope that I was in no way responsible for David's (W) deletion of his membership and that this is just part of his regular practice of taking a break every few months. :(
He says not, Navneeth. He is under lots of pressure at work right now and needed a break. He'll be back soon to run the blind listening on the Haydn Op 50. :)
8)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 17, 2012, 09:20:53 AM
He says not, Navneeth. He is under lots of pressure at work right now and needed a break. He'll be back soon to run the blind listening on the Haydn Op 50. :)
8)
But where better to take a break and relax than here, where your friends are always up for a knockdown-dragout fight over the inconsequential? ;D
Sarge
Post by: Opus106 on March 17, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
He says not, Navneeth. He is under lots of pressure at work right now and needed a break. He'll be back soon to run the blind listening on the Haydn Op 50. :)
8)
Thanks for the message, Gurn. I was especially worried since he was excited about the Haydn blind listening. I look forward to his return.
Post by: Ataraxia on March 19, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
Post by: Brian on March 19, 2012, 05:41:42 PM
I really miss Saul....NOT!!! I know Brian has been busy, but I miss his posts
Aw, thanks. :) Yeah, I'm busy these days and am lucky to squeeze in a post a day. I just got back from a 9-day vacation too - not only no GMG, but no classical music! :o
Post by: springrite on March 19, 2012, 05:57:21 PM
Aw, thanks. :) Yeah, I'm busy these days and am lucky to squeeze in a post a day. I just got back from a 9-day vacation too - not only no GMG, but no classical music! :o
That is not a vacation. That is inprisonment!
Post by: Mirror Image on March 19, 2012, 07:12:03 PM
Aw, thanks. :) Yeah, I'm busy these days and am lucky to squeeze in a post a day. I just got back from a 9-day vacation too - not only no GMG, but no classical music! :o
Good to see you, Brian! I hope all is well. :)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 20, 2012, 02:05:24 AM
That is not a vacation. That is inprisonment!
Something like. Even I listened to some Bruckner on our recent vacation . . . .
Post by: Scots John on April 19, 2012, 11:53:35 AM
Post by: madaboutmahler on April 19, 2012, 11:54:45 AM
I have been 'missing' for a wee while. I am no longer 'missing'. 0:)
Great to have you back, John! :D
Post by: Lisztianwagner on April 19, 2012, 12:02:47 PM
I have been 'missing' for a wee while. I am no longer 'missing'. 0:)
Great to have you back, John! :D
+1 :D
Welcome back, John!
Post by: Mirror Image on April 19, 2012, 07:34:26 PM
I have been 'missing' for a wee while. I am no longer 'missing'. 0:)
Welcome back, John! I missed your posts!
Post by: fridden on April 19, 2012, 07:50:31 PM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 20, 2012, 02:45:48 AM
Post by: Cato on April 20, 2012, 06:24:28 AM
I have been 'missing' for a wee while. I am no longer 'missing'. 0:)
Dude! Whassup? 8)
Check your e-mail for a few past messages!
Post by: Ataraxia on April 20, 2012, 07:16:35 AM
Post by: Christo on April 20, 2012, 09:20:35 AM
Welcome back, John! I missed your posts!
You can't! :o You were supposed to be missing yourself .. ;)
Post by: Mirror Image on April 21, 2012, 08:33:45 PM
You can't! :o You were supposed to be missing yourself .. ;)
That's true! You've been missing in action until recently too, Christo. Glad to have you back as well. 8)
Post by: DavidRoss on May 12, 2012, 03:26:32 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 12, 2012, 03:31:47 AM
And good morning, amigo!
Post by: DavidRoss on May 12, 2012, 03:45:52 AM
Post by: The new erato on May 12, 2012, 03:52:16 AM
Phoenix-like, he is Sammy, Dave.Shouldn't that be Sammy Davies?
And good morning, amigo!
Post by: DavidRoss on May 12, 2012, 04:13:57 AM
Shouldn't that be Sammy Davies?You betcha, Junior!
Post by: Elgarian on May 12, 2012, 07:54:30 AM
¡Buenos dias, muchacho!
Aha! I thought it was you, hiding behind that tree. Welcome back to the wonderful GMG world of Transatlantic CD shipments in Inflatable Mail-Delivering Dinghies, and Infectious Bouncing Planets.
Post by: DavidRoss on May 14, 2012, 05:42:46 PM
Aha! I thought it was you, hiding behind that tree. Welcome back to the wonderful GMG world of Transatlantic CD shipments in Inflatable Mail-Delivering Dinghies, and Infectious Bouncing Planets.Thanks, dude! Infectious is right--I'm about to drop the figurative needle on Gardiner's recording.
Post by: Bogey on May 14, 2012, 06:02:00 PM
(http://richmondmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Welcome-Back-Kotter.jpg)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 15, 2012, 01:40:28 AM
Post by: Elgarian on May 15, 2012, 03:46:48 AM
You gents rock!
I think we're all (including you, Karl) very happy to be in the company of Handel - who, as we now recognise, invented rock and roll.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 15, 2012, 03:48:21 AM
Post by: Elgarian on May 15, 2012, 03:53:13 AM
Handel in the Dinghy
We're all in the Dinghy, old chap. And the Dinghy is in the Shed.
Post by: The new erato on May 15, 2012, 04:19:15 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 15, 2012, 04:53:05 AM
Post by: Elgarian on May 15, 2012, 09:54:48 AM
I shed my dinghy a few years ago and bought a real boat.
And there's nothing wrong with that (except you forfeit the possibility of ever being a famously slow Amazon Marketplace seller).
Post by: snyprrr on May 31, 2012, 07:17:29 PM
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on June 01, 2012, 12:28:54 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 02, 2012, 04:52:13 PM
8)
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Now playing:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa159/Gurn_Blanston/CD%20Covers/Haydn%20Covers/HaydnSolomons42-45-46-47-51-65newcover.jpg)
L'Estro Armonico \ Derek Solomons - Hob 01_065 Symphony in A 3rd mvmt - Menuet - Trio
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on June 02, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
Antoine Marchand (recently changed to 'Eric') has suddenly become a guest. It's a sad day here at GMG, at the least for yours truly... :(
+1
Post by: springrite on June 03, 2012, 06:04:21 AM
I do not see Matti any more! I have send him a enormous pile of CD'S, and never heard again from him. Maybe he drowned in all those CD'S. Anyway, I would have loved some feedback. :(
Give him a few weeks and he will come back with an enormous pile of feedbacks.
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on June 03, 2012, 06:08:22 AM
Give him a few weeks and he will come back with an enormous pile of feedbacks.
Ehhhhh I have send those CD'S a year ago.......................
Post by: Brian on June 03, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Antoine Marchand (recently changed to 'Eric') has suddenly become a guest. It's a sad day here at GMG, at the least for yours truly... :(
Oh no! One of the very best of us.
Post by: Elgarian on June 04, 2012, 12:25:13 AM
Antoine Marchand (recently changed to 'Eric') has suddenly become a guest. It's a sad day here at GMG, at the least for yours truly... :(
That's not good news. I hope he comes back.
Post by: North Star on June 04, 2012, 12:29:05 AM
Post by: The new erato on June 04, 2012, 12:29:42 AM
Oh no! One of the very best of us.Doesn't say much, but yes; we miss him.
Post by: (: premont :) on June 04, 2012, 02:23:51 AM
Antoine Marchand (recently changed to 'Eric') has suddenly become a guest. It's a sad day here at GMG, at the least for yours truly... :(
I am deeply shocked. :( :'(
Post by: DavidW on June 04, 2012, 05:24:46 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 04, 2012, 05:30:50 AM
. . . Hope he comes back.
+1
Post by: Leo K. on June 04, 2012, 06:01:10 AM
Post by: Marc on June 05, 2012, 10:39:09 PM
That is sad to hear about Antoine, I will miss him.
Me, too. :(
Post by: Florestan on June 09, 2012, 06:39:02 AM
Post by: Christo on June 09, 2012, 10:11:33 AM
Post by: Lilas Pastia on June 09, 2012, 04:29:30 PM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 09, 2012, 04:35:04 PM
Post by: Lilas Pastia on June 09, 2012, 04:56:54 PM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 10, 2012, 03:38:04 AM
Post by: madaboutmahler on June 17, 2012, 03:22:25 AM
Post by: Opus106 on June 17, 2012, 03:24:53 AM
Does anyone know where David (W) has gone? It appears his facebook account has been deleted, and he is now a 'guest' here on GMG.... I hope he comes back soon! :)
It's a periodic thing. Don't worry, he'll be back, given the pattern. :)
Post by: Cato on June 26, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
I thought perhaps the new Hans Rott CD with the premiere recording of the Suite for Orchestra would bring him out of aestivation.
Post by: kishnevi on June 26, 2012, 02:35:10 PM
Any word from him?
I thought perhaps the new Hans Rott CD with the premiere recording of the Suite for Orchestra would bring him out of aestivation.
Perhaps he's too busy reveling in it to bother checking in.
Speaking of people who have not put in an appearance lately--is Que on vacation? I haven't noticed him in what seems at least two or three weeks.
BTW, Cato, totally off topic--where's your sig quote from?
Post by: Opus106 on June 26, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
Speaking of people who have not put in an appearance lately--is Que on vacation? I haven't noticed him in what seems at least two or three weeks.
I saw him online a couple of nights ago.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 27, 2012, 03:24:34 AM
I saw him online a couple of nights ago.
He is on vacation, should be returning soon. I think the online sightings are due to having a moment to check in from the road. Insatiable curiosity, as it were. :)
8)
Post by: Opus106 on June 27, 2012, 05:50:18 AM
He is on vacation, should be returning soon. I think the online sightings are due to having a moment to check in from the road. Insatiable curiosity, as it were. :)
8)
He's already registered his return -- at the Listening and Purchases threads. :)
Post by: Cato on June 27, 2012, 06:26:56 AM
So some of you have sighted our raram avem! ;D
Many thanks!
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 27, 2012, 06:29:38 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on June 27, 2012, 06:47:20 AM
Post by: Cato on June 27, 2012, 06:54:34 AM
Any word from him?
I thought perhaps the new Hans Rott CD with the premiere recording of the Suite for Orchestra would bring him out of aestivation.
Paavo looks disturbingly like Vladimir Putin. ;D
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2012, 07:09:42 AM
.
Co-written with Lorena Bobbit.
Post by: Mirror Image on June 27, 2012, 12:29:42 PM
Paavo looks disturbingly like Vladimir Putin. ;D
ZING!
Post by: eyeresist on June 27, 2012, 04:22:36 PM
Paavo looks disturbingly like Vladimir Putin. ;D
I said it first!
Post by: Scots John on July 02, 2012, 08:10:02 AM
;)
I am sorry about my attendance, especially to certain people, one of whom sent me some Enescu / Reger discs and whose name rhymes with Plato, and one who I opted in for a blind listening experience in April but did not actually participate. :'( Well, I have only said it once before, but it's worth repeating in case I am misunderstood. In 1998 whilst teaching in London I got a severe brain injury, the reprecussions of which affect me to this day, and I am still stuck in 1998! Pah! This accounts for bouts of mental side-tracking, eccentricities, absences and not-very-wellness for months at a time, and is the reason for my long absences since I joined the mighty GMG in 1998...ooops, 2008. And thats that.
Still! No point in saying welcome back as who knows I might be away again in a month. :D As things improve (again) I will post more...starting (again) today... :P
Post by: Brewski on July 02, 2012, 08:15:40 AM
--Bruce
Post by: madaboutmahler on July 02, 2012, 09:15:09 AM
Well, even if you disappear again, welcome back! And very glad you're feeling better... :D
--Bruce
+1
Good to hear from you again, John! :)
Post by: Brian on July 02, 2012, 09:41:28 AM
I am still stuck in 1998! Pah!
Welcome back to the boards, John! You've missed a good bit in the past few months, so just to update you, France are the world's best football side and President Clinton has been getting it on with the interns again.
...but in all seriousness, hope you can stay and hope you're feeling OK more regularly. :)
Post by: Cato on July 02, 2012, 11:28:20 AM
Illness and stuff. I have not been a well wee cookie for some months, but things are getting better.
Yay Team! It is good to know that your life is improving! Tell us more, if you are able!
Post by: Scots John on July 02, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
Welcome back to the boards, John! You've missed a good bit in the past few months, so just to update you, France are the world's best football side and President Clinton has been getting it on with the interns again.
...but in all seriousness, hope you can stay and hope you're feeling OK more regularly. :)
Yes, and my beloved GREEN BAY PACKERS got a kicking at Superbowl 32 (end of '97 season) by the Broncos this year too. And France were only lucky that Scotland didn't get through to the final rounds of the World Cup though. ;D
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 03, 2012, 04:12:13 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 12, 2012, 11:50:33 AM
Jochanaan hasn't been around for 7 months now (12/20/11). Pity, he was a saner head when one was needed. And here nearly as long as I have been!
So it goes.... :-\
8)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 12, 2012, 11:54:12 AM
Post by: Opus106 on July 12, 2012, 10:19:05 PM
Jochanaan hasn't been around for 7 months now (12/20/11). Pity, he was a saner head when one was needed. And here nearly as long as I have been!
So it goes.... :-\
8)
If all's right at his end, I'm sure he'll pop his head in as soon as a non-recording-centric musical topic crops up in these parts*. I almost always learn something of interest when he posts, be it about the music, its performance or history.
*I suppose he thinks the "Masses in Classical Austria" thread is in a capable pair of hands (or two) as it is. ;)
Post by: eyeresist on July 12, 2012, 10:50:21 PM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 13, 2012, 01:59:26 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 26, 2012, 10:13:09 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 26, 2012, 10:14:49 AM
Post by: Gordo on July 26, 2012, 12:00:07 PM
Shortly, I'm back again what recalls me that “more tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.” :P ;D
Gordon Shumway (formerly Antoine Marchand)
:)
Post by: The new erato on July 26, 2012, 12:02:08 PM
I'm deeply moved by all the kind words expressed when I was reported as missing. :) But I never really thought to leave this board permanently; on the contrary, I simply thought my posts were being increasingly routine, so I believed it would be a prudent decision to make a pause. And that's what I did for near a month.Good! We need your informed postings on baroque music; there's not many of us baroqe lovers around.
Shortly, I'm back again what recalls me that “more tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.” :P ;D
Gordon Shumway (formerly Antoine Marchand)
:)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on July 26, 2012, 12:07:15 PM
Whud I miss? Whar'd Fafner go?
Yeah, a shame he's gone...again. I got a PM from him that said, in part, "I find it [GMG] too addictive, it sucks up too much of my time, so I'm afraid I will be withdrawing (again)."
I'll miss him.
Sarge
Post by: The new erato on July 26, 2012, 12:25:59 PM
Yeah, a shame he's gone...again. I got a PM from him that said, in part, "I find it [GMG] too addictive, it sucks up too much of my time, so I'm afraid I will be withdrawing (again)."Yep. There must be a Siegfried lurking.
I'll miss him.
Sarge
Post by: Gordo on July 26, 2012, 12:26:43 PM
Good! We need your informed postings on baroque music; there's not many of us baroqe lovers around.
It's true: we (barock-ers!) are unfortunately very few these days on board. Maybe we have failed in communicating the Good News of the historically informed Baroque Music. :( ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 26, 2012, 12:39:03 PM
Post by: Elgarian on July 26, 2012, 12:40:24 PM
Shortly, I'm back again
Gordon Shumway (formerly Antoine Marchand)
The day just got better.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 26, 2012, 12:47:00 PM
Post by: Brian on July 26, 2012, 12:56:01 PM
Yeah, a shame he's gone...again. I got a PM from him that said, in part, "I find it [GMG] too addictive, it sucks up too much of my time, so I'm afraid I will be withdrawing (again)."
(again)? Who was Fafner?
Post by: Que on July 26, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
I'm deeply moved by all the kind words expressed when I was reported as missing. :) But I never really thought to leave this board permanently; on the contrary, I simply thought my posts were being increasingly routine, so I believed it would be a prudent decision to make a pause. And that's what I did for near a month.
Shortly, I'm back again what recalls me that “more tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.” :P ;D
Gordon Shumway (formerly Antoine Marchand)
:)
Antoine, sooo glad you're back! :) :)
Q
Post by: Gordo on July 26, 2012, 02:28:21 PM
Antoine, sooo glad you're back! :) :)
Q
Oh, I see you were "moderated" by Gurn, dear Q! ;D
Thanks to you, Elgarian and Karl. All of you are nice and kind people, as it's not easy to find on the web.
Post by: Cato on July 26, 2012, 03:09:09 PM
Oh, I see you were "moderated" by Gurn, dear Q! ;D
Thanks to you, Elgarian and Karl. All of you are nice and kind people, as it's not easy to find on the web.
Dude! Antoine Marchand! Rock on, Dude! 8)
And about the only French name that is cooler would be Guy Gadbois !
http://www.youtube.com/v/sMqgj20r874
From The Return of the Pink Panther with Catherine Schell, who was incapable of keeping a straight face during the scene. This is not an out-take. Director Blake Edwards decided just to keep her break-up at the end.
Post by: kishnevi on July 26, 2012, 04:52:53 PM
Or should I say, welcome Bach?
Post by: Lilas Pastia on July 26, 2012, 05:08:22 PM
Cato:Is Catherine related to Maria and Maximilian Schell ?
Post by: Cato on July 26, 2012, 05:27:30 PM
Cato:Is Catherine related to Maria and Maximilian Schell ?
No, she is descended from (Austro) Hungarian parents named Schell von Bauschlott. Her last big role was on Space:1999.
Post by: Gordo on July 26, 2012, 05:51:47 PM
Dude! Antoine Marchand! Rock on, Dude! 8)
And about the only French name that is cooler would be Guy Gadbois !
http://www.youtube.com/v/sMqgj20r874
From The Return of the Pink Panther with Catherine Schell, who was incapable of keeping a straight face during the scene. This is not an out-take. Director Blake Edwards decided just to keep her break-up at the end.
:D ;D :D
Hi, Cato. I chose that nickname because when I registered myself here, I was listening to a disc conducted by Ton Koopman (=Antoine Marchand in French). It was a disc of cantatas precisely recorded in the sub-label of Challenge called "Antoine Marchand" (founded by Koopman when Erato, not our Erato anyway :), cancelled his project of recording all the Bach cantatas. :)
Post by: Gordo on July 26, 2012, 06:01:23 PM
Welcome back, Antoine'/Gordon.
Or should I say, welcome Bach?
Oh, yes. I love so much Bach's music that I'm even listening to some of his keyboard music played on piano. For instance, these days I'm quite interested in Craig Sheppard.
Post by: Gordo on July 26, 2012, 06:03:37 PM
Welcome back Antoine. I've seen you on GMG for a few years, but now I'm confused: Antoine/Gordon from Chile ? And you expect us to keep track? ;)
Need I to add that my real name is Eric? ;D
Post by: Brewski on July 26, 2012, 06:44:23 PM
--Bruce
Post by: Que on July 26, 2012, 10:16:43 PM
Oh, I see you were "moderated" by Gurn, dear Q! ;D
I guess I might have been overly enthusiastic. ;D ;)
Q
Post by: (: premont :) on July 27, 2012, 09:08:22 AM
I'm deeply moved by all the kind words expressed when I was reported as missing. :) But I never really thought to leave this board permanently; on the contrary, I simply thought my posts were being increasingly routine, so I believed it would be a prudent decision to make a pause. And that's what I did for near a month.
Shortly, I'm back again what recalls me that “more tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.” :P ;D
Gordon Shumway (formerly Antoine Marchand)
:)
Great news dear Eric. :)
I seriously feared you had fallen victim to CDCDCD.
Gordon Shumway - hmm.. I do not think you are that alien after all.
Post by: Opus106 on July 27, 2012, 09:17:20 AM
I seriously feared you had fallen victim to CDCDCD.
Returning to the real world from GMG is actually rehab.
Post by: (: premont :) on July 27, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
Returning to the real world from GMG is actually rehab.
I do not think that a life in the real world excludes one or two daily visits to GMG.
Post by: Ataraxia on July 27, 2012, 09:32:58 AM
I do not think that a life in the real world excludes one or two daily visits to GMG.
Some people live here and not in the real world.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 27, 2012, 09:35:39 AM
Post by: (: premont :) on July 27, 2012, 09:53:53 AM
Some people live here and not in the real world.
Yes, I know, but I do not think this is true of Eric.
Post by: North Star on July 27, 2012, 10:36:37 AM
Post by: Opus106 on July 27, 2012, 11:11:35 AM
I do not think that a life in the real world excludes one or two daily visits to GMG.
What I meant to imply was, one has to stay in GMG to be victimised by CDCDCD and not by escaping to the real world.
Post by: Marc on July 27, 2012, 12:04:56 PM
I'm deeply moved by all the kind words expressed when I was reported as missing. :) But I never really thought to leave this board permanently; on the contrary, I simply thought my posts were being increasingly routine, so I believed it would be a prudent decision to make a pause. And that's what I did for near a month.
Shortly, I'm back again what recalls me that “more tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.” :P ;D
Gordon Shumway (formerly Antoine Marchand)
:)
Welcome back, mr. Shumway!
I do recognize this 'routine' feeling.
Luckilly only when posting in the guide of good music.
Not when listening to good music.
I've been to loads of concerts this summer so far, mainly (even mainly only ;D) organ recitals, and it's great fun.
So I've hushed up a bit on the forum, but I'm still lurking around and WILL BE BACK .... to routinely disagree with your routine posts again! ;D
Post by: (: premont :) on July 27, 2012, 12:23:55 PM
What I meant to imply was, one has to stay in GMG to be victimised by CDCDCD and not by escaping to the real world.
Really? I contracted the CDCDCD long time before I ever heard of GMG or any other music forum - and BTW, what is the real world. Isn´t music part of the real world?
Post by: Opus106 on July 27, 2012, 12:36:58 PM
Really? I contracted the CDCDCD long time before I ever heard of GMG or any other music forum
It's its effectiveness in the age of the Interwebs that makes it more potent here. In any case, I think I've done my bit in taking this thread of its rails, so I'll stop here. 0:)
Post by: Scots John on July 27, 2012, 01:53:17 PM
Post by: Sammy on July 27, 2012, 02:01:51 PM
I miss Mirror Image. :'(
You evidently didn't read the fine print - there's no crying on GMG. ;D
Post by: Sammy on July 27, 2012, 02:04:37 PM
Oh, yes. I love so much Bach's music that I'm even listening to some of his keyboard music played on piano. For instance, these days I'm quite interested in Craig Sheppard.
I hope you get the chance to hear his set of the Partitas; it's a knock-out performance.
Post by: Gordo on July 27, 2012, 07:05:02 PM
I hope you get the chance to hear his set of the Partitas; it's a knock-out performance.
I'll do it. These days I was listening to his Book 2 of the WTC and the experience was highly rewarding.
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on July 27, 2012, 08:48:43 PM
You evidently didn't read the fine print - there's no crying on GMG. ;D
I was not aware of the absence of MI. Our serial poster has left da building huh?
Post by: Que on July 28, 2012, 12:58:33 AM
I was not aware of the absence of MI. Our serial poster has left da building huh?
Maybe his CD budget ran out? ;)
Q
Post by: (: premont :) on July 28, 2012, 01:42:07 AM
.. I think I've done my bit in taking this thread of its rails, so I'll stop here. 0:)
You are welcome. :)
Post by: Opus106 on July 28, 2012, 01:43:38 AM
You are welcome. :)
! ???
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on July 28, 2012, 01:48:01 AM
Maybe his CD budget ran out? ;)
Q
;D ;D ;D
Post by: Gordo on July 28, 2012, 08:33:39 AM
Hi Eric (d.b.a. Antoine ;D) Nice to see you back - and I'm not even a huge Baroque fan (though I did see the Met's pastiche, The Enchanted Island, last spring and loved it), but I recognize sane, intelligent posters and appreciate them, whatever genre they enjoy.
--Bruce
Hi, Bruce. I was watching some parts of The Enchanted Island; it seems a nice production. BTW, these kind of pasticci are quite in the same vein of the proceedings of the Baroque composers. :)
Post by: Gordo on July 28, 2012, 08:41:52 AM
Great news dear Eric. :)
I seriously feared you had fallen victim to CDCDCD.
Oh, my dear friend, I think our immune system is fully prepared to face any attack of CDCDCD. Just two days ago I ordered some medication from Italy. ;D
Gordon Shumway - hmm.. I do not think you are that alien after all.
I think the other way around: All of us are aliens! :)
Post by: Gordo on July 28, 2012, 08:46:44 AM
So I've hushed up a bit on the forum, but I'm still lurking around and WILL BE BACK .... to routinely disagree with your routine posts again! ;D
It would be always a pleasure disagree with you, Marc! :D
Post by: Cato on July 30, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
She has had health problems for nearly a year, which prevented her from doing much of anything. She is now at home, where Internet connections have suddenly become difficult.
So that explains her absence: she would like to be around on a more regular basis.but...
Post by: Que on July 30, 2012, 08:44:28 PM
GMG member Anne who often followed opera topics here sent me a message yesterday.
She has had health problems for nearly a year, which prevented her from doing much of anything. She is now at home, where Internet connections have suddenly become difficult.
So that explains her absence: she would like to be around on a more regular basis.but...
So sorry to hear that. We could use her company again! :)
Q
Post by: kishnevi on July 31, 2012, 04:02:13 PM
Post by: SonicMan46 on July 31, 2012, 04:11:24 PM
GMG member Anne who often followed opera topics here sent me a message yesterday.
She has had health problems for nearly a year, which prevented her from doing much of anything. She is now at home, where Internet connections have suddenly become difficult.
So that explains her absence: she would like to be around on a more regular basis.but...
Anne and I exchanged a lot of posts on the 'reading thread' - we had similar interests in medical history (in fact, she sent me a bio of William Osler, and I sent her several books that I had co-edited on radiology) - earlier this year I joined Facebook (talked into it by relatives but rarely use) - she friended me and we exchange a few emails; her respiratory health, as mentioned already, is an issue - have not heard from her recently but I always enjoyed her presence and our mutual reading interests - Dave :)
Post by: Gordo on July 31, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
Has anyone heard from Sara (Lethe-vich)? She hasn't checked in here since 19 July--almost two weeks now.
I hope she only wants to scare us a little bit with this absence; she is one of our most intelligent and refreshing members... and one of the very few girls here! :(
Post by: Cato on July 31, 2012, 05:59:49 PM
I hope she only wants to scare us a little bit with this absence; she is one of our most intelligent and refreshing members... and one of the very few girls here! :(
GMG Needs Women!
Not quite the same as Mars Needs Women, but... 8)
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 12, 2012, 07:22:08 AM
GMG Needs Women!
Not quite the same as Mars Needs Women, but... 8)
Nor is it that far different. :)
That said, it is now September 12 and the lovely and talented Sara is still unaccounted for since July 19. I'm sad.... :(
8)
Post by: DavidRoss on September 12, 2012, 08:03:43 AM
Nor is it that far different. :)I miss her, too, and agree with everything said here about here. Anne, too!
That said, it is now September 12 and the lovely and talented Sara is still unaccounted for since July 19. I'm sad.... :(
Post by: Opus106 on September 12, 2012, 08:36:18 AM
That said, it is now September 12 and the lovely and talented Sara is still unaccounted for since July 19. I'm sad.... :(
8)
The thing that makes it more worrisome is that she didn't follow that hallowed GMG tradition of deleting one's account. In that case, we will at least know that the member is alive and kicking while simply being sore about (something in) life.
Maybe she listened to too much Pettersson.
Post by: Mirror Image on September 12, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
that hallowed GMG tradition of deleting one's account.
I didn't follow in this trend thank goodness. I think it's pointless to delete your account and create another one. No offense to Dave or Karl who do this thing quite often it seems. I prefer to just take a break and leave my account alone.
Post by: Corey on September 30, 2012, 04:14:34 AM
Nor is it that far different. :)
That said, it is now September 12 and the lovely and talented Sara is still unaccounted for since July 19. I'm sad.... :(
8)
Just came here to post more/less the same thing. Her last.fm account is still active, so she isn't dead — just not posting here.
Post by: Mirror Image on September 30, 2012, 06:22:25 AM
Post by: Lilas Pastia on October 01, 2012, 04:42:07 AM
Post by: Corey on October 01, 2012, 04:43:36 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 01, 2012, 04:51:14 AM
I miss Sara too. Somebody has to carry the torch for Pettersson's music around here...
I love 9 through 16 too but I just don't have her proselytizing passion, unique insight and stunning eloquence, traits I'd need to pick up the Pettersson torch. We really do need her back...and not just for Pettersson's sake ;)
Sarge
Post by: Scarpia on October 01, 2012, 05:11:59 AM
I love 9 through 16 too but I just don't have her proselytizing passion, unique insight and stunning eloquence, traits I'd need to pick up the Pettersson torch. We really do need her back...and not just for Pettersson's sake ;)
Sarge
Maybe your comments on Petterson should be in verse.
Post by: Mirror Image on October 01, 2012, 05:33:21 AM
I love 9 through 16 too but I just don't have her proselytizing passion, unique insight and stunning eloquence, traits I'd need to pick up the Pettersson torch. We really do need her back...and not just for Pettersson's sake ;)
Sarge
This is very true. We just need her back period. :)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 01, 2012, 06:00:26 AM
Maybe your comments on Petterson should be in verse.
There once was a man named Pete
Who composed music while strapped to his seat
The more morbid he got
The more Sara got hot
And would scream, Man, his stuff's frakking neat!
8)
Post by: Mirror Image on October 01, 2012, 07:16:51 AM
There once was a man named Pete
Who composed music while strapped to his seat
The more morbid he got
The more Sara got hot
And would scream, Man, his stuff's fraking neat!
8)
And people tell me I need to get out more...::) :D
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 01, 2012, 08:35:30 AM
And people tell me I need to get out more...::) :D
Hey, when the Muse visits, I go with it.
Actually, I'm hanging around today, twiddling my thumbs, just waiting for Daniel to post the M1 results. Wait...I suppose that does mean I have no life :D
Sarge
Post by: springrite on October 01, 2012, 08:41:46 AM
Hey, when the Muse visits, I go with it.I have the cricket T20 results if you fancy them...
Actually, I'm hanging around today, twiddling my thumbs, just waiting for Daniel to post the M1 results. Wait...I suppose that does mean I have no life :D
Sarge
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 01, 2012, 08:43:20 AM
I have the cricket T20 results if you fancy them...
I'm not that desperate...not yet, anyway :D
Sarge
Post by: Opus106 on October 01, 2012, 08:46:19 AM
I have the cricket T20 results if you fancy them...
;D
Do you have TV coverage in Beijing, Paul?
Post by: springrite on October 01, 2012, 08:48:58 AM
;DNo, but I do have my IPad to pick up signals from other outlets.
Do you have TV coverage in Beijing, Paul?
Post by: Opus106 on October 01, 2012, 08:50:36 AM
No, but I do have my IPad to pick up signals from other outlets.
Nice!
Post by: Mirror Image on October 01, 2012, 09:29:15 AM
Hey, when the Muse visits, I go with it.
Actually, I'm hanging around today, twiddling my thumbs, just waiting for Daniel to post the M1 results. Wait...I suppose that does mean I have no life :D
Sarge
:D
Post by: SonicMan46 on October 01, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
Post by: Lilas Pastia on October 01, 2012, 03:06:38 PM
Lethe AKA Lethevitch
Thanks Corey :-*. I do recall Lethe. And if she's not posting anymore she ought to. And not just for Pettersson's sake - although GAP still needs all the advocacy he can get ;).
Post by: Mirror Image on October 01, 2012, 07:40:45 PM
Post by: DavidRoss on October 02, 2012, 05:40:51 AM
I miss Andre (or did he go by Sid on here?). He was from Australia and he always made interesting posts (unlike mine). We fought every now and again, but I got to know him better than anyone on this board. He was a friend as we talked about our personal problems. Sometimes it's nice to get to know people and get away from the music. We all love classical or we wouldn't be here, but getting to know somebody beyond the music strengthens the friendship we have with other members.Isn't that eyeresist aka criticalI? Y'all are like peas in a pod, now that you mention it.
Post by: Opus106 on October 02, 2012, 05:53:39 AM
Isn't that eyeresist aka criticalI? Y'all are like peas in a pod, now that you mention it.
Nope. I think Sid said many months, probably a year, ago that he was taking a long break or something like that. He was a relatively new listener of CM and his posts on the listening thread were almost always filled with descriptions of his first explorations of various works.
Post by: DavidRoss on October 02, 2012, 06:12:30 AM
Nope. I think Sid said many months, probably a year, ago that he was taking a long break or something like that. He was a relatively new listener of CM and his posts on the listening thread were almost always filled with descriptions of his first explorations of various works.Oh, yeah, that's right ... I remember now. He was gracious and open-minded and interested in learning and sharing his joy of discovery. I did a quick search and turned up this typical example: http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,429.msg521910.html#msg521910
Speaking of missing members, it would be nice to see him back!
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 02, 2012, 06:53:50 AM
Isn't that eyeresist aka criticalI? Y'all are like peas in a pod, now that you mention it.
No, someone else altogether. I enjoyed his posts. As I recall, he used to host some listening parties and report back on reactions of the group to different music, which I thought was interesting. So it goes... :-\
8)
Post by: Corey on October 02, 2012, 07:24:51 AM
Post by: Mirror Image on October 02, 2012, 01:41:13 PM
Oh, yeah, that's right ... I remember now. He was gracious and open-minded and interested in learning and sharing his joy of discovery. I did a quick search and turned up this typical example: http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,429.msg521910.html#msg521910
Speaking of missing members, it would be nice to see him back!
Yes, it would be be great to see him around here again. By the way, me and Critical1 (eyeresist) peas in a pod? We do generally seem to along with each other.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 02, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
Monkey Greg
2011-2012
He will be missed.
(I'm not really gone, please don't be sad)
Post by: Mirror Image on October 02, 2012, 06:11:54 PM
(http://gregscottmoeller.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/img_24271.jpg?w=400&h=650)
Monkey Greg
2011-2012
He will be missed.
(I'm not really gone, please don't be sad)
:'(
This is a sad day on GMG. RIP Monkey Greg.
Post by: Opus106 on October 02, 2012, 08:22:02 PM
Monkey Greg
2011-2012
He will be missed.
(I'm not really gone, please don't be sad)
Don't you dare walk out of our lives! >:( 0:)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 03, 2012, 02:34:33 AM
(http://gregscottmoeller.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/img_24271.jpg?w=400&h=650)
Monkey Greg
2011-2012
Metropolis Greg will always be Monkey Greg to me.
Sarge
Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 03, 2012, 03:06:17 AM
Metropolis Greg will always be Monkey Greg to me.
Sarge
Good names, I'll take 'em both.
Post by: kishnevi on October 03, 2012, 04:58:18 AM
Good names, I'll take 'em both.
Call him Tom, Dick, or Harry;
Call him Monkey, call him Metro;
Call him Sally, call him Larry;
Call him Lee, call him Jethro;
Call him saint, or call him sinner:
Just don't call him late for dinner.
(as you can see, Sarge is not the only one who can write lousy poetry around here.)
Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 03, 2012, 05:05:29 AM
Call him Tom, Dick, or Harry;
Call him Monkey, call him Metro;
Call him Sally, call him Larry;
Call him Lee, call him Jethro;
Call him saint, or call him sinner:
Just don't call him late for dinner.
(as you can see, Sarge is not the only one who can write lousy poetry around here.)
Haha! Brilliant! Now let's put that to some music
Post by: Scots John on October 03, 2012, 05:08:12 AM
Call him Tom, Dick, or Harry;
Call him Monkey, call him Metro;
Call him Sally, call him Larry;
Call him Lee, call him Jethro;
Call him saint, or call him sinner:
Just don't call him late for dinner.
(as you can see, Sarge is not the only one who can write lousy poetry around here.)
***groan*** :(
:P
Post by: Lilas Pastia on October 03, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
Post by: DavidRoss on October 04, 2012, 07:53:38 AM
And Maciek? What happened to Mack The Knife?Didn't he become a moderator? Perhaps the same thing happened to him that happened to you when you were a mod. ;)
Post by: springrite on October 04, 2012, 07:55:47 AM
Post by: Opus106 on October 04, 2012, 07:58:05 AM
I plan to go missing for a while so I can be talked about here. I am getting jealous of all the love...
It might take a while, though, for people to notice. Delete your account instead! ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 04, 2012, 08:22:10 AM
I plan to go missing for a while so I can be talked about here. I am getting jealous of all the love...
Paul, we love you, even without the cute Kimi pics!
Post by: Lilas Pastia on October 04, 2012, 08:40:26 AM
Didn't he become a moderator? Perhaps the same thing happened to him that happened to you when you were a mod. ;)
Maybe ::). Being a mod is not something I enjoyed. A chore and a pain the butt, but also quite stressful at times :P.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 04, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
Post by: DavidRoss on October 04, 2012, 08:45:56 AM
Maybe ::). Being a mod is not something I enjoyed. A chore and a pain the butt, but also quite stressful at times :P.Being a Mod was hard enough. Just imagine what it was like being a Rocker!
(http://www.johnsmedley.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Mods-vs-Rockers.jpg)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 04, 2012, 09:03:28 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 04, 2012, 09:31:17 AM
And Maciek? What happened to Mack The Knife?
Maciek is in grad school, and his family has grown exponentially in the last 3 years. As a result of his work burden and familial obligations, his opportunities to come to the forum have diminished to the point of invisibility. :-\
Being a mod is actually great fun. One gets to interact with some of the most... interesting people. :D
8)
Post by: Lilas Pastia on October 04, 2012, 10:30:40 AM
I knew Mac's family had grown recently, and I can only imagine the fun he must have ;D.
Post by: Brian on November 02, 2012, 11:29:45 AM
Post by: Willoughby earl of Itacarius on November 02, 2012, 12:48:04 PM
I miss Bunny.
Bunny is a woman that comes and goes, the last time we emailed was years ago, but she will turn up eventually, not to worry, she travels a lot.
Post by: DavidRoss on November 03, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
I miss Bunny.Yeah. It was nice to have a female know-it-all around.
Post by: springrite on November 03, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
Yeah. It was nice to have a female know-it-all around.You sound like a man who misses his ex-wife. A nice statement in support of marriage, I'd say!
Post by: DavidRoss on November 03, 2012, 03:56:57 PM
You sound like a man who misses his ex-wife. A nice statement in support of marriage, I'd say!Ha!
It's just that male know-it-alls are a dime a dozen...with a perpetual 2-for-1 special on the internet! There might be as many female know-it-alls, but if so, they're much better at keeping it hidden. ;)
Post by: OrchestralNut on November 03, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
Ha!
It's just that male know-it-alls are a dime a dozen...with a perpetual 2-for-1 special on the internet! There might be as many female know-it-alls, but if so, they're much better at keeping it hidden. ;)
Funny, but in my life experience, the opposite holds true.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on November 03, 2012, 06:07:19 PM
Funny, but in my life experience, the opposite holds true.
Yeah, but that's face to face, where they can do serious damage. Aggression is minimized by distance. >:D
8)
Post by: Scarpia on November 06, 2012, 07:26:06 AM
Post by: DavidRoss on November 06, 2012, 08:16:13 AM
Still no Lethe. :(Hugs & kisses for her and best wishes for a fulfilling life away from GMG. There are many good reasons to take a break from the forum and I pray it's by her choice and not some forced necessity. Regardless of the reason, it may do her heart good if she ever returns and sees on this thread how much she is respected, loved, and missed. :-*
Post by: Elgarian on November 06, 2012, 02:10:21 PM
Hugs & kisses for her and best wishes for a fulfilling life away from GMG. There are many good reasons to take a break from the forum and I pray it's by her choice and not some forced necessity. Regardless of the reason, it may do her heart good if she ever returns and sees on this thread how much she is respected, loved, and missed. :-*
Yes. In case she passes by this way sometime, I'd like my agreement to be registered.
Post by: Corey on November 07, 2012, 09:04:38 AM
Post by: Scarpia on November 07, 2012, 09:16:38 AM
I have it on good authority that Lethe is fine, and seems to be doing better than ever. :)
We should then rejoice at missing members, as souls who disappear from purgatory, admitted to Paradiso.
I think I will try to summon the will power to go missing. Managed for a year or so, then relapsed.
Post by: Corey on November 07, 2012, 06:34:13 PM
We should then rejoice at missing members, as souls who disappear from purgatory, admitted to Paradiso.
I think I will try to summon the will power to go missing. Managed for a year or so, then relapsed.
My level of activity here seems to have a correlation with my job situation at any given time. If I don't have much to do, I usually listen to more classical music.
Post by: Cato on November 09, 2012, 07:33:30 AM
I wanted to send him a message, but that new name does not work!
Post by: Opus106 on November 09, 2012, 07:37:06 AM
Is Andre' now "Lilas Pastia" ?!
Was, unfortunately. I think the name change was the last thing he did before deleting his account. The cause was a fracture in the HIP. :(
Post by: Scarpia on November 09, 2012, 07:41:18 AM
Was, unfortunately. I think the name change was the last thing he did before deleting his account. The cause was a fracture in the HIP. :(
Your "name" can be different from your login ID and I think that if you delete your account your name defaults to the login ID. (A lot of people changed their name when an attack on the site was causing people to get logged out of the site some time ago).
Post by: Gurn Blanston on November 09, 2012, 07:47:40 AM
Was, unfortunately. I think the name change was the last thing he did before deleting his account. The cause was a fracture in the HIP. :(
Is Andre' now "Lilas Pastia" ?!
I wanted to send him a message, but that new name does not work!
Your "name" can be different from your login ID and I think that if you delete your account your name defaults to the login ID. (A lot of people changed their name when an attack on the site was causing people to get logged out of the site some time ago).
Yes, Scarpia is correct. Lilas Pastia is the name André used when he joined. André was a pseudonym that disappeared when he scarpered off.... :-\
8)
Post by: Opus106 on November 09, 2012, 07:48:22 AM
Quote
...and I think that if you delete your account your name defaults to the login ID.
But sites in general don't allow spaces within the login IDs.
EDIT: Okay, apparently this one does. ;D
Still, that was the last he did, but inadvertently. ;)
Post by: Cato on November 09, 2012, 07:59:27 AM
I do have Andre's address so I will send him an actual letter on paper! 8)
Post by: Opus106 on November 09, 2012, 08:00:49 AM
I do have Andre's address so I will send him an actual letter on paper! 8)
Send a what on the what, now?
Post by: springrite on November 09, 2012, 08:07:06 AM
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2012, 08:49:09 AM
Maybe send a telegram. On a TV program here, a TV actor told the story. On his anniversary, he was away shooting a TV series. So he went to the post office to ask if they can still send telegrams. They said they do have that service, although it hasn't been used in ages. So he decided to send his wife a telegram. It arrived a week later, just moments before he arrived back home.I received a telegram last December. It arrived in a FedEx envelope.
Post by: Gordo on November 14, 2012, 04:12:16 PM
Oh my! I do not follow that topic (HIP) and have not been able to visit much in general.
Although I suspect you have some pretty strong ideas about it. I mean I have seen some of your comments here and there. ;D ;)
Post by: Cato on November 19, 2012, 04:54:37 AM
Although I suspect you have some pretty strong ideas about it. I mean I have seen some of your comments here and there. ;D ;)
I have ideas about it, but whether they are "strong"... ;D
My letter is on its way to Andre': not long ago he sent me some CD's with the music of Goffredo Petrassi, which is most excellent and highly recommended. Specifically he sent the 8 Concerti for Orchestra, which begin in a Hindemithian style, but then evolve into something very personal and unusual.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on December 21, 2012, 08:23:27 AM
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Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 21, 2012, 08:34:22 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on December 21, 2012, 08:50:16 AM
Cato may have heard from him later than his recentest participation here . . . .
My hope, indeed. :)
8)
Post by: Brian on December 30, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on February 20, 2013, 10:45:22 AM
Sarge
Post by: Cato on February 20, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
Anyone heard from Drasko? Last active in mid-December.
Sarge
Oh my! Another MIA!
Well, let us hope for a positive explanation, when s/he returns!
Maybe Mozart-Denier Rob Newman ??? ??? ??? will make a comeback!
Post by: Florestan on February 21, 2013, 03:10:53 AM
Maybe Mozart-Denier Rob Newman ??? ??? ??? will make a comeback!
Yes, only this time it'll be Karl Henning, a fraud? making the case for the music being actually written by Luke Ottevanger. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 21, 2013, 03:51:27 AM
Post by: Opus106 on March 22, 2013, 09:06:06 AM
Post by: Cato on May 03, 2013, 02:33:38 AM
Was, unfortunately. I think the name change was the last thing he did before deleting his account. The cause was a fracture in the HIP. :(
I have mailed him a few notes with homemade CD's of rare items to both his home and business addresses, in an attempt to lure him out of his silence.
No response after a month! I tend to be persistent about things like this, so I will probably try one more time.
Post by: Henk on May 03, 2013, 03:50:34 AM
Her messages were always so positive, uplifting and funny.
Post by: springrite on May 03, 2013, 03:55:41 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 03, 2013, 04:04:05 AM
How are you doing, Paul?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 03, 2013, 04:14:41 AM
: )
Post by: Cato on May 03, 2013, 06:35:10 AM
Lethevich. Still feel quite bad and embarrassed about some stupid PMs I sent her.
Her messages were always so positive, uplifting and funny.
Well, good for you for writing that!
I receive e-mails here at school from meshuga parents, who should apologize for their screeds, but never do of course.
Like their children, they are always right and so never need to make amends!
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 03, 2013, 08:41:07 AM
I receive e-mails here at school from meshuga parents,This is a word that needs to be used more frequently.
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Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 03, 2013, 08:44:27 AM
Post by: Brian on May 03, 2013, 08:44:37 AM
If I go missing, no one will notice. Until... until someone thinks: Hey! Is Kimi in grad>:Deschool now?
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 03, 2013, 09:06:54 AM
Four young men in direst need of a laxative, eh?That would explain so much. :D
Post by: Beorn on May 03, 2013, 11:51:34 AM
Post by: kishnevi on May 03, 2013, 01:56:27 PM
This is a word that needs to be used more frequently.
8)
usage note: the adjectival form of the word is more properly meshugeneh; as a noun it should be mishegoss.
Most people think of it as being a Yiddish word, but it's actually one of many Hebrew words Yiddish took over whole and intact. Tochis is another, although the meaning has changed: it's the Ashkenazic pronounciation of the Hebrew word being "under" (and often transliterated according to its Sefardic pronounciation, tachat, in that context); the popular usage testifies to Jewish preference for euphemisms.
And I too miss Lethevich, who is one of those people who never inflicts mishegoss on other people.
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 03, 2013, 08:35:49 PM
(http://www.wall-online.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Immortal-Band-Image-Scream-Faces.jpg)Makeup wearing clowns! >:D
All black metal bands should watch Detroit Metal City...
That would explain so much. :DWell, the constant quest to find the brown note, for one.
Interestingly, because of Karl's "young men" remark, I looked up their ages, and they are younger than I thought- mid 40s. Surprising because I know they started the band the year I was born (1987), but didn't know they were so young (Thordendal was 17, for example).
It was good to see these guys a few months ago...
usage note: the adjectival form of the word is more properly meshugeneh;Funny... I think my brother mispronounced it like this- and it happens to be the real word. His innate Jewishness is coming out... :D
Post by: Brian on May 04, 2013, 04:29:22 AM
Did Mel Brooks say it?
- If yes, I know it.
- If no...
Post by: Christo on May 04, 2013, 08:38:06 AM
meshuga parents
I hadn't seen this word in English before, but it's more or less common in Dutch, spelled 'mesjogge' (pronounced as 'muhshoghuh'). A couple of hundreds of these loanwords entered Dutch via de Jewish community of Amsterdam, especially, and many of them are so common that no-one recognizes their Yiddish or Hebrew origin.
Post by: kishnevi on May 04, 2013, 12:24:20 PM
My criteria for knowing a Yiddish word:
Did Mel Brooks say it?
- If yes, I know it.
- If no...
An oldie (dating from when I was a kid), but a goodie is Leo Rosten's Joys of Yiddish, in which you'll find American Yiddish as it was spoken in the mid 20th century, the era when it had the most influence on American entertainment. Plus loads of jokes illustrating the American Jewish culture in the same era.
Post by: Mirror Image on May 04, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
Post by: The new erato on May 17, 2013, 12:30:59 AM
I'll say it again, I miss my buddy Sid. He was such a knowledgeable member and really absorbed the music he listened to. Not only this but he was always pleasant to talk with and didn't judge or belittle me like some members here tend to do.Well I wonder where you are? From posting each hour to being silent for a week without hints of a coming vacation makes me slightly curious.
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2013, 12:44:42 AM
Well I wonswe where you are? From posting each hour to being silent for a week without hints of a coming vacation makes me slightly curious.John's moved to Talk Classical, and doesn't plan returning here.
Post by: Opus106 on May 17, 2013, 12:49:09 AM
John's moved to Talk Classical, and doesn't plan returning here.
You mean the place he said he won't go back to, after joining GMG?
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2013, 01:05:22 AM
You mean the place he said he won't go back to, after joining GMG?Yes....
Post by: The new erato on May 17, 2013, 01:07:35 AM
John's moved to Talk Classical, and doesn't plan returning here.Anybody know why? No indication in his posts.....
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2013, 01:20:12 AM
Anybody know why? No indication in his posts.....
He felt that there are more folks with similar tastes, and his old friend Sid. And other stuff, too...
Post by: The new erato on May 17, 2013, 01:30:22 AM
He felt that there are more folks with similar tastes,Yes, why learn something new
Post by: Opus106 on May 17, 2013, 01:53:02 AM
John, if you're reading this: Hi! ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 17, 2013, 01:54:04 AM
Post by: Opus106 on May 17, 2013, 01:59:51 AM
Oh, was Sid a Mozart-hater, too? O0
Um, I don't think so. One of the few who used the Listening Thread to the fullest, IIRC.
Post by: (: premont :) on May 17, 2013, 02:09:06 AM
August 6th, 2013: "I felt that there were too many members with similar tastes; not many willing the open their eyes, ears and whatnot to listen to under-appreciated composers of the 20th century."
So you know, what he is going to write in the future?? :o ::) ;D
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2013, 02:10:38 AM
August 6th, 2013: "I felt that there were too many members with similar tastes; not many willing the open their eyes, ears and whatnot to listen to under-appreciated composers of the 20th century."
John, if you're reading this: Hi! ;)
Let's see if he reads this post before writing :D
Post by: Opus106 on May 17, 2013, 02:28:10 AM
So you know, what he is going to write in the future?? :o ::) ;D
Indeed. I was paraphrasing what he is going to say during his comeback speech. ;)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 17, 2013, 03:29:17 AM
1. Walton
2. Elgar
3. W. Schuman (although Honegger's "Liturgique," Roussel, or Casella's Sinfonia could have easily went here)
4. Ives (although Schmidt's could have went here)
5. RVW
6. Milhaud (although Sibelius could have easily went here)
7. Pettersson
8. Shostakovich
9. Bruckner
10. Villa-Lobos
Well, good luck to him there...and good luck to his forum mates :D
Sarge
Post by: North Star on May 17, 2013, 03:30:30 AM
MI must be Neo Romanza at Talk Classical. Someone with that username joined this month and already has posted 164 times! That sounds like our boy :D ...as does this list of favorite symphonies (http://www.talkclassical.com/3873-ten-favorite-symphonies-one-12.html):Yes.
1. Walton
2. Elgar
3. W. Schuman (although Honegger's "Liturgique," Roussel, or Casella's Sinfonia could have easily went here)
4. Ives (although Schmidt's could have went here)
5. RVW
6. Milhaud (although Sibelius could have easily went here)
7. Pettersson
8. Shostakovich
9. Bruckner
10. Villa-Lobos
Well, good luck to him there...and good luck to his forum mates :D
Sarge
Post by: Christo on May 17, 2013, 03:39:44 AM
August 6th, 2013:
We will have to wait a bit for his confession then. ::)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 17, 2013, 03:41:32 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 17, 2013, 04:00:00 AM
Could have went? And three times? Oof.
John boldly goes where no man has went before...
Sarge
Post by: Cato on May 17, 2013, 04:17:51 AM
John boldly goes where no man has went before...
Sarge
I should put this under the Grammar Grumble, but I just corrected a translation from Latin by an 8th Grader which has the following monster: "...the Roman army brang back a great victory." ??? ??? ??? ???
Mirror Image may have become too embarrassed by some of his ad hominem outbursts.
I noticed John of Scotland has last visited GMG on the 14th, but has not written anything since late in April.
Let's hope things are busy for him in the best sense.
Post by: Parsifal on May 17, 2013, 11:07:14 AM
MI must be Neo Romanza at Talk Classical. Someone with that username joined this month and already has posted 164 times! That sounds like our boy :D ...as does this list of favorite symphonies (http://www.talkclassical.com/3873-ten-favorite-symphonies-one-12.html):
1. Walton
2. Elgar
3. W. Schuman (although Honegger's "Liturgique," Roussel, or Casella's Sinfonia could have easily went here)
4. Ives (although Schmidt's could have went here)
5. RVW
6. Milhaud (although Sibelius could have easily went here)
7. Pettersson
8. Shostakovich
9. Bruckner
10. Villa-Lobos
Well, good luck to him there...and good luck to his forum mates :D
Sarge
He'll be back when he gets banned again.
Post by: OrchestralNut on May 18, 2013, 03:31:39 AM
He'll be back when he gets banned again.
Yes, Talk Classical has a habit of banning members more often than most people change their underwear. ;D
Post by: TheGSMoeller on May 18, 2013, 03:39:17 AM
Yes, Talk Classical has a habit of banning members more often than most people change their underwear. ;D
Speaking of missing members, been a while since I've seen you post, Ray. Welcome back. :)
Post by: Mirror Image on June 18, 2013, 08:30:27 PM
Post by: Opus106 on June 18, 2013, 08:31:51 PM
I'm back. Send in the clowns. :P
You will do just fine; thanks. >:D
Welcome back.
Post by: Que on June 18, 2013, 08:54:09 PM
I'm back. Send in the clowns. :P
Were you kicked out elsewhere ....or did you actually miss us? 8)
Q
Post by: CaughtintheGaze on June 18, 2013, 08:55:25 PM
Were you kicked out elsewhere ....or did you actually miss us? 8)
He claims he wasn't banned.
Post by: Octave on June 18, 2013, 09:32:26 PM
I'm back. Send in the clowns. :P
I'm glad you are back, more or less. It's problematic, because your old posts are still costing me lots of money! 8)
Post by: North Star on June 18, 2013, 10:15:20 PM
I'm back. Send in the clowns. :Ppffft
Post by: Papy Oli on June 18, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
I'm back. Send in the clowns. :P
Are you MN Dave ? :P
Post by: OrchestralNut on June 19, 2013, 03:06:41 AM
I'm back. Send in the clowns. :P
Welcome back, John! :)
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2013, 03:44:53 AM
Are you MN Dave ? :P;D ;D
Post by: Mirror Image on June 19, 2013, 04:35:06 AM
Post by: Lisztianwagner on June 19, 2013, 04:54:13 AM
Post by: kishnevi on June 19, 2013, 07:48:26 AM
Octave was making a valiant attempt at filling in for you on the purchases thread, but it just wasn't the same. Far fewer obscure modern composers.
Post by: madaboutmahler on June 19, 2013, 12:03:30 PM
Thanks for all the welcomes everyone. I'm not fully back as I'm not going to be posting as much as I used to here but I will peak in from time to time. All the best to all of you.
Glad you are back on GMG, John! And just the same time that I am as well, after having finally finished those exams!! Plenty of freedom now with plenty of excitement musical events coming up over the summer! :)
Post by: Gordo on June 19, 2013, 12:15:13 PM
... I'm not fully back as I'm not going to be posting as much as I used to here but I will peak in from time to time.
Translation for newbies: "The next few days I'll be posting here as often as I never did". :laugh: ;)
Post by: Beorn on June 27, 2013, 10:35:53 AM
Are you MN Dave ? :P
Lurker Dave to you.
Post by: vandermolen on July 21, 2013, 11:57:24 AM
Thanks for all the welcomes everyone. I'm not fully back as I'm not going to be posting as much as I used to here but I will peek in from time to time. All the best to all of you.
Yes, nice to see you posting again. :)
Post by: Mirror Image on July 21, 2013, 06:22:50 PM
Yes, nice to see you posting again. :)
Thanks, Jeffrey.
Post by: Parsifal on July 23, 2013, 04:59:38 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 23, 2013, 05:02:17 AM
What's become of Octave, I wonder.
He told me that he's taking a little break in order to listen to the dump truck full of disks he's gotten in the last 6 months. Once that's done and properly digested, I believe he will return.
8)
Post by: springrite on July 23, 2013, 05:13:28 AM
Post by: North Star on July 23, 2013, 08:05:59 AM
Let's make a list of missing members from western US. When I drive around western US in October, I will try to round them up and hand them over to The Sarge.The deserters, you mean?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 23, 2013, 08:25:54 AM
Post by: Brian on July 23, 2013, 08:31:34 AM
Hah!Reading your GMG posts has made me very hopeful that, if/when we do indeed meet in person, your actual real-life laughter consists of a single massive "Hah!"
Example:
[Karl watches "Rocky and Bullwinkle"]
KARL: HAH! [returns to silence]
Post by: springrite on July 23, 2013, 08:45:07 AM
Reading your GMG posts has made me very hopeful that, if/when we do indeed meet in person, your actual real-life laughter consists of a single massive "Hah!"
Example:
[Karl watches "Rocky and Bullwinkle"]
KARL: HAH! [returns to silence]
There may be no Hah!, nor silence, but instead, *pounds the table!!!*
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 23, 2013, 08:52:44 AM
Post by: North Star on July 23, 2013, 09:01:54 AM
Post by: Parsifal on July 23, 2013, 09:08:01 AM
The deserters, you mean?
AWOL members are rounded up and sent to the stockade?
Post by: Brian on July 23, 2013, 11:41:13 AM
There may be no Hah!, nor silence, but instead, *pounds the table!!!*That's the other thing, if I meet Karl over dinner, I'll say something he has to agree with, like "Stravinsky is good," just to see if he pounds the table.
Post by: North Star on July 23, 2013, 11:45:53 AM
That's the other thing, if I meet Karl over dinner, I'll say something he has to agree with, like "Stravinsky is good," just to see if he pounds the table.Hold your plate and glass, though!
Post by: Cato on August 14, 2013, 02:46:28 AM
What say ye? Will he return? Or is his work finished here?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 14, 2013, 02:58:31 AM
That's the other thing, if I meet Karl over dinner, I'll say something he has to agree with, like "Stravinsky is good," just to see if he pounds the table.
I may wear cautionary oven mitts . . . .
Post by: Sergeant Rock on August 14, 2013, 03:07:42 AM
I just noticed: Alexander Bystrow was last active on August 5th, with his last comment on August 2nd.
What say ye? Will he return? Or is his work finished here?
I predicted that once his own thread was locked--the only thread on which he posted--he would disappear. So far that seems to be the case. He had an agenda, one that didn't include actually participating in the broader forum. I suppose he could return and start another contentious thread. But I doubt we'll see him post anywhere else.
Sarge
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 14, 2013, 03:20:25 AM
Well, this is improper.
Post by: Szykneij on August 14, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
I predicted that once his own thread was locked--the only thread on which he posted--he would disappear. So far that seems to be the case. He had an agenda, one that didn't include actually participating in the broader forum. I suppose he could return and start another contentious thread. But I doubt we'll see him post anywhere else.
Sarge
On top of it, his initial post was simply a cut-and-paste of what he had already posted on his blog. Maybe we'll hear from him again when he updates his site.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 14, 2013, 04:22:52 AM
Post by: Cato on August 14, 2013, 04:30:44 AM
On top of it, his initial post was simply a cut-and-paste of what he had already posted on his blog. Maybe we'll hear from him again when he updates his site.
:o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ??? :o ???
Post by: The new erato on August 14, 2013, 04:42:22 AM
I resisted clicking on the Connect button.
Post by: Cato on August 14, 2013, 07:48:20 AM
This reminds me that LinkedIn a couple of days sent me an e-mail "Do you know Robert Newman, independent consultant and author?"
I resisted clicking on the Connect button.
Resistance is not futile in this case! ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 14, 2013, 07:58:14 AM
Post by: kishnevi on August 30, 2013, 05:14:42 PM
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Local Time: August 30, 2013, 06:31:07 PM
Last Active: June 22, 2013, 11:16:05 PM
Post by: Brian on August 30, 2013, 05:22:07 PM
Just noticed this regarding David Ross. Anyone in touch with him off-forum?As of earlier today he's still posting 3-5 very vocal political opinions on Facebook per day.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 31, 2013, 02:47:24 AM
Weird.
Post by: Szykneij on August 31, 2013, 08:47:59 AM
Just noticed this regarding David Ross. Anyone in touch with him off-forum?
Probably busy because he just came off the disabled list :)
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/08/26/david-ross-back-healthy-for-red-sox/76URGMwwehdmSNFHJ29TYM/story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/08/26/david-ross-back-healthy-for-red-sox/76URGMwwehdmSNFHJ29TYM/story.html)
>:D :D
Post by: kishnevi on August 31, 2013, 06:44:37 PM
I wound up posting about "Apollo Dave" in the Shed . . . I was sure there was a Missing Members thread, yet the search function couldn't turn it up.
Weird.
Perhaps because you did what I did on my initial foray, and looked for it in the apparently logical place:The Diner?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 01, 2013, 05:30:19 AM
Post by: Brian on September 27, 2013, 11:02:26 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 27, 2013, 11:03:39 AM
dyn left? I liked dyn!
I suspect he isn't too far off. 3 random lower case letters are 3 random lower case letters, after all.... :)
8)
Post by: springrite on September 27, 2013, 12:32:04 PM
I suspect he isn't too far off. 3 random lower case letters are 3 random lower case letters, after all.... :)
8)
Well, at least they are tree pronounceable lower case letters instead of the usual random ones.
Post by: Bogey on September 28, 2013, 04:04:59 PM
Post by: kyjo on September 28, 2013, 04:10:29 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on September 28, 2013, 06:27:33 PM
Where's pencils been? He and I share very similar tastes and I miss his posts. :(
Maybe....just maybe...he got tired of your polls. Okay, okay, just kidding. :D
Post by: kyjo on September 28, 2013, 07:07:59 PM
Maybe....just maybe...he got tired of your polls. Okay, okay, just kidding. :D
:P
Oh dear, John, what have I done, what have I done........
Post by: springrite on September 28, 2013, 07:30:21 PM
:P
Oh dear, John, what have I done, what have I done........
just as long as we don't become good-music-polls.com
Post by: OrchestralNut on September 29, 2013, 02:27:30 AM
Post by: (: premont :) on September 29, 2013, 02:23:19 PM
Has anyone heard from Stuart (Coopmv) lately? Haven't seen him on GMG it seems for quite some time.
He has not posted since long. The same can be said about Clever Hans, but fortunately both have been "active" in this month (september).
Post by: Christo on October 01, 2013, 09:44:54 PM
dyn left? I liked dyn!
He's active on the Art-Music Forum now.
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 02, 2013, 02:10:53 PM
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
Where did Annie go?
Is it me or have Annie's posts gone too?
I thought if you deleted your account, your posts did stay?
Post by: Parsifal on October 02, 2013, 02:37:01 PM
Where did Annie go?
Mea Culpa, I seem to have mortally offended her here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,21529.msg746131.html#msg746131
You are one of the main characters here not letting music lovers discuss anything valuable, attacking with your narrow information and view, which I'm sure not your intention
(the original post seems to have been deleted)
Then there's this (like and dislike thread)
Quote
I disagree. I don't think this qualifies as a classical forum...There are some very good information but they are buried in the past and hard to find. Recent ones are mostly baseless beliefs or prejudices, whose record beats who or I have been looking to the stars every night and now I consider myself a space engineer sort of people's "vast" knowledge of not only classical but all kind of music. It's easy to see why trained people of music left this forum in time. The moderators lack of classical music knowledge must have played the biggest role in this state of forum...
Another deleted post enshrined in someone's quotation.
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 02, 2013, 02:37:21 PM
Is it me or have Annie's posts gone too?
I thought if you deleted your account, your posts did stay?
Well, not if you delete your posts prior to leaving. :blank:
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 02, 2013, 02:39:07 PM
Mea Culpa, I seem to have mortally offended her here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,21529.msg746131.html#msg746131
Seems more to me like "she" was the one doing the offending, Scarpia.
Post by: North Star on October 02, 2013, 02:42:52 PM
Post by: Brian on October 02, 2013, 02:44:28 PM
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2013, 02:50:36 PM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 02, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
Hands up, come on hands up...how many of us actually thought Annie was a "She"?
You mean Bob? I wasn't sure what he/she was...and I'm not sure he/she knew either :D The mind gets foggy at his/her age :D
Sarge
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2013, 03:02:54 PM
You mean Bob? I wasn't sure what he/she was...and I'm not sure he/she knew either :D The mind gets foggy at his/her age :D
Sarge
I had heard the name Bob associated with Annie. I can never understand why people gender change by name on a music forum. Can't understand why Annie jumped ship, she gave and received as good as she got!
I thought at one stage M Forever had sneaked back on.
'Ere you were a Sergeant weren't you Sarge, that bits real? :D
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 02, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
'Ere you were a Sergeant weren't you Sarge, that bits real? :D
Yes, it is. Highest rank attained, Sergeant First Class (Platoon Sgt), E-7, U.S. Army. Served 22 years. 1969-1991.
Sarge
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on October 02, 2013, 03:22:40 PM
Yes, it is. Highest rank attained, Sergeant First Class (Platoon Sgt), E-7, U.S. Army. Served 22 years. 1969-1991.
Sarge
Excellent Sarge, I always new that for real.
Respects
Tony
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on October 02, 2013, 03:34:54 PM
Where did Annie go?
Don't worry, the sun will come up - tomorrow!
Post by: Cato on October 02, 2013, 03:36:48 PM
(http://schlockfootage.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/twinpeaks001.jpg)
Pleasant dreams, everyone! 0:)
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 02, 2013, 03:39:34 PM
Here is the proof! It struck me this morning who "Annie" really was!
(http://schlockfootage.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/twinpeaks001.jpg)
Pleasant dreams, everyone! 0:)
Oh no! I just recently watch Twin Peaks for the first time, about a year ago. I found the first season especially great, and creepy! ;D Bob!
Post by: Cato on October 02, 2013, 03:43:45 PM
Oh no! I just recently watch Twin Peaks for the first time, about a year ago. I found the first season especially great, and creepy! ;D Bob!
Place any quote from "Annie" under this picture and you will see how perfectly it fits! 8)
Post by: knight66 on October 02, 2013, 06:09:22 PM
So, I don't think anyone need blame themselves here, this ex-member showed every sign of not being a good fit for this or any other forum; and by deleting the account saved us wasting a deal of time deleting snide posts.
However.....it may be timely to point out that I have been having corr suggesting there is something of an exclusive boy's club feel here, where new people can feel excluded from involvement, so remember that we have a duty to try and integrate and welcome folk and not just by saying 'hi' on the intros thread. I am not addressing specifically anyone who is actively posting on this topic; just raising awareness generally of Rob's aim to have this be a congenial place for expanding ones taste and knowledge and having fun.
Knight
Post by: Mirror Image on October 02, 2013, 06:12:59 PM
Perhaps she realized the pointlessness of having all the other members on her ignore list.
This or her doctor finally put her on some medication that actually works. :P
Post by: The new erato on October 02, 2013, 07:25:34 PM
This or her doctor finally put her on some medication that actually works. :PHe, he. Looking for a table to pound.
Post by: milk on October 02, 2013, 10:07:11 PM
Hands up, come on hands up...how many of us actually thought Annie was a "She"?I was suspicious. But it's interesting. He burst on to the scene and insulted many of the members here while also extensively and passionately arguing for his point of view. How strange. Why be so rude? What does one get out of it? He obviously knows music. And the use of a feminine persona with which to throw around the diminutive "dear"...I guess that gave him a feeling of stature. Anyway, I'm relieved. But I'm really amazed at how patient people were when being the target of Annie's rudeness. As Captain Sensible said, "I'm glad it's all over."
Post by: mc ukrneal on October 02, 2013, 10:50:59 PM
However.....it may be timely to point out that I have been having corr suggesting there is something of an exclusive boy's club feel here, where new people can feel excluded from involvement, so remember that we have a duty to try and integrate and welcome folk and not just by saying 'hi' on the intros thread. I am not addressing specifically anyone who is actively posting on this topic; just raising awareness generally of Rob's aim to have this be a congenial place for expanding ones taste and knowledge and having fun.I fully support this. It was particularly apparent in a couple of relatively recent threads.
Knight
Post by: DavidW on October 03, 2013, 03:13:08 AM
Perhaps she realized the pointlessness of having all the other members on her ignore list.
Yes I think that she had nearly all active posters on her ignore list. :D
Post by: Christo on October 03, 2013, 03:34:36 AM
Post by: Brian on October 03, 2013, 03:40:03 AM
Silly question, but where's Harry? Haven't seen him in ages and I surely missed the news somewhwere.
He got angry and left after an argument with someone, I forget who. He keeps a blog where he posts all his listening, but it's always told me I'm blocked from commenting.
He does still post here once a week or so.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 03, 2013, 03:48:21 AM
Post by: Brian on October 03, 2013, 03:51:29 AM
Why would Harry block you from commenting? Perhaps he blocks all comment.
That's right. You're supposed to "follow" the blog in order to comment, but whenever I tried, the page crashed, and then I found another way to follow it but that didn't unblock me from replying. So I get an email every morning telling me what Harry listened to, but I can't really do anything with it.
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 03, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
That's right. You're supposed to "follow" the blog in order to comment, but whenever I tried, the page crashed, and then I found another way to follow it but that didn't unblock me from replying. So I get an email every morning telling me what Harry listened to, but I can't really do anything with it.
I have the same experience, Brian. I hope someday Harry will return full-time to GMG. :)
Post by: Mirror Image on October 03, 2013, 04:18:15 AM
He, he. Looking for a table to pound.
;D
Post by: Scots John on October 03, 2013, 06:04:39 AM
Post by: knight66 on October 03, 2013, 07:00:02 AM
Mike
Post by: The new erato on October 03, 2013, 08:21:58 AM
I am a woman called Clarissa...wait a minute, hang on, hang on, no I'm not... >:(Anything in skirt I'll say......
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 03, 2013, 01:32:35 PM
Yay! Welcome back, neighbour!
Post by: mn dave on October 03, 2013, 01:36:20 PM
Post by: Cato on October 03, 2013, 01:54:32 PM
I am a woman called Clarissa...wait a minute, hang on, hang on, no I'm not... >:(
Anything in skirt I'll say......
It isn't a skirt: it's called a kilt! 0:)
Post by: knight66 on October 03, 2013, 08:10:40 PM
Note: this post will not display until it's been approved by a moderator.
I have reported this post to a moderator.
Mike
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 04, 2013, 01:17:27 AM
Post by: Parsifal on October 07, 2013, 03:55:58 PM
Post by: springrite on October 07, 2013, 04:00:39 PM
Post by: Parsifal on October 07, 2013, 04:08:50 PM
I was going to be "missing" for a while and see if anyone noticed. But I came back after five days. How long does it take to be noticed, I wonder...
Until the deficit of posts is statistically significant. Assuming posting is a random process, it would have something to do with a Poisson distribution.
Post by: kishnevi on October 07, 2013, 06:42:25 PM
I was going to be "missing" for a while and see if anyone noticed. But I came back after five days. How long does it take to be noticed, I wonder...
Depends on how often the individual posts, and if there are known reasons why the member would be offline. John (Mirror Image) would probably be noticed within one day. Your absence, on the other hand, would probably be attributed to a lecture trip you forget to mention, and therefore would not be remarked on until someone realized your "trip" was much longer than usual.
Post by: Parsifal on October 08, 2013, 11:54:16 AM
P(N,A) = (AN e-A)/(N!)
The symbol "!" means factorial and e is the base of the natural logarithm
Snyprrr seems as randome as it comes, so assuming that snyprrr makes 3.85 posts per day (according to his member profile) the probability that he fails to post on a given day is P(0,3.85) = 0.02, or 2%.
There is a 2% chance that snyprrr neglects to post on any given day, and the chance that he neglects to post for 7 days running is 0.027, or 2 x 10-12.
???
Either snyprrr is dead, or snyprrr is not random.
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 08, 2013, 12:02:31 PM
???
Either snyprrr is dead, or snyprrr is not random.
I certainly hope the former isn't the case, and I'm sure it isn't. As for the latter, the most reliable, constant, unwavering thing on GMG is snyprr's randomness. ;D
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 08, 2013, 12:21:26 PM
I certainly hope the former isn't the case, and I'm sure it isn't. As for the latter, the most reliable, constant, unwavering thing on GMG is snyprr's randomness. ;D
Indeed. Often when I reply to a snyprrr post it will be days, even weeks before he answers. The dude's middle name is random.
Sarge
Post by: springrite on October 08, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
Indeed. Often when I reply to a snyprrr post it will be days, even weeks before he answers. The dude's middle name is random.He waits till you have forgotten what you had posted, what you meant, and the context to reply so you'd be more confused and in no position to defend yourself.
Sarge
Now that he appears to be missing, he must be setting up a few posters! Just wait!
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 08, 2013, 04:40:03 PM
He waits till you have forgotten what you had posted, what you meant, and the context to reply so you'd be more confused and in no position to defend yourself.
Now that he appears to be missing, he must be setting up a few posters! Just wait!
Yes, the air has an aroma of an oncoming, impending Snyprrr Tsunami of randomness! :laugh:
Post by: Parsifal on October 08, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
Either snyprrr is dead, or snyprrr is not random.
I've come up with a third possibility. The snyprrr has a job.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 08, 2013, 05:17:27 PM
I've come up with a third possibility. The snyprrr has a job.
Mmmmmmm......... nah! :o
8)
Post by: The new erato on October 08, 2013, 10:31:27 PM
I've come up with a third possibility. The snyprrr has a job.If I were American, I would now exclaim "Aha; it's him that works at customer telephone support at "put in your favorite"!"
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 09, 2013, 03:44:15 AM
Mmmmmmm......... nah! :o
8)
Well . . . he might be a Congressman 0:) 8) ;D
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 09, 2013, 04:10:16 AM
I've come up with a third possibility. The snyprrr has a job.
Maybe he got on with an exterminator company? He mentioned that he was a starving artist, and he does say "Rat Poison is 99% good food". :laugh:
Post by: North Star on October 09, 2013, 04:14:16 AM
Post by: Cato on October 09, 2013, 04:18:11 AM
Or perhaps he's a member of a jury..
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :o :o :o :o :o I pity the defendant! 0:)
Post by: Scots John on October 09, 2013, 04:19:12 AM
Post by: mn dave on October 09, 2013, 04:22:23 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 09, 2013, 04:25:39 AM
Sarge
Post by: kishnevi on October 09, 2013, 06:33:17 AM
MASS MOSSAD RESIGNATION
Inside source; no one was willing to endure interrogating new detainee after initial interrogators were checked into psychiatric ward
Post by: springrite on October 09, 2013, 06:38:40 AM
Post by: Sammy on October 09, 2013, 09:13:32 AM
He got called back to his home planet.
That's a good one. :laugh:
Post by: Parsifal on October 11, 2013, 06:31:39 AM
Post by: AnthonyAthletic on October 11, 2013, 07:04:06 AM
Post by: Brian on October 11, 2013, 10:38:58 AM
And yet, no snyprrr. He disappeared just as the shutdown started. Coincidence? I think not. Snyprrr was a covert operative of the US government, and is now on furlough.(http://www.wnff.net/Smileys/default/lmao.gif)
Post by: knight66 on October 11, 2013, 01:02:09 PM
Mike
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 11, 2013, 01:12:38 PM
Is it not more likely that he was an advanced bot and like a lot of US Gov sites, he is presently deactivated?
Mike
Yes, that does give pause for reflection... ???
8)
Post by: Parsifal on October 11, 2013, 01:27:59 PM
Yes, that does give pause for reflection... ???
The former coopmv could easily have been a computer program. I think the program could be reduced to a very compact form.
subroutine 1:
"Now listening to CD <random integer> of this set for a first listen"
<random ASIN reference:year of composition before 1800>
subroutine 2:
"That CD has been part of my collection since <random date between 1/1/1990 and current date>"
But snyprrr? No computer program could duplicate the snyprrr.
Post by: kishnevi on October 14, 2013, 07:42:29 PM
He was last active on 10/7.
My knowledge of where the actual impact zone was is hazy, but I was under the impression that Chennai was not directly threatened by that enormous Bengal cyclone.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 15, 2013, 04:33:07 AM
Anyone heard from Navneeth (Opus 106) in the last week.
He was last active on 10/7.
My knowledge of where the actual impact zone was is hazy, but I was under the impression that Chennai was not directly threatened by that enormous Bengal cyclone.
No, Chennai (Madras) is about halfway down the east coast of India, well south of any but the most peripheral winds and surf. I would speculate a vacation, long overdue, although I don't know really. :-\
8)
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 15, 2013, 04:38:33 AM
Anyone heard from Navneeth (Opus 106) in the last week.
He was last active on 10/7.
My knowledge of where the actual impact zone was is hazy, but I was under the impression that Chennai was not directly threatened by that enormous Bengal cyclone.
My dear friend, Navneeth (in fact, my first true classical music friend!), does from time to time take extended breaks from GMG. I'm sure he will be back in the not so distant future.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 21, 2013, 10:13:25 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 21, 2013, 11:01:17 AM
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 21, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
Ah, Dr snypsss is back (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,22049.msg752435.html#msg752435), all is again in harmony.
Aha! Dr. Snyprrr. I see, is Dr. Snypsss thus a mohel by trade? :blank:
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 21, 2013, 11:34:16 AM
Post by: kyjo on October 21, 2013, 11:34:45 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 21, 2013, 11:49:28 AM
Aha! Dr. Snyprrr. I see, is Dr. Snypsss thus a mohel by trade? :blank:
And you know his slogan; I'm Snips, let me give you a tip....
8)
Post by: vandermolen on October 27, 2013, 04:19:03 AM
No further sightings of pencils :'(
Yes, I miss his input.
Post by: mc ukrneal on October 27, 2013, 04:30:12 AM
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 27, 2013, 04:30:44 AM
Yes, I miss his input.
Hmm, who is pencils? ???
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 27, 2013, 04:37:23 AM
I miss Lethe. She had a lot of interesting comments and interests.
Same here, Neal.
Post by: kyjo on October 27, 2013, 06:49:41 AM
Hmm, who is pencils? ???
A member who was only active for about a month or so. He, Jeffrey (vandermolen) and I share very similar tastes.
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 27, 2013, 07:49:59 AM
A member who was only active for about a month or so. He, Jeffrey (vandermolen) and I share very similar tastes.
Thanks Kyle, I might have missed his time on the board, as I was inactive for awhile on GMG.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 27, 2013, 08:15:59 AM
I miss Lethe. She had a lot of interesting comments and interests.
This. Also must add a genuinely nice person, I mean her avatar was Shostakovich laughing ;D
Post by: kyjo on October 27, 2013, 08:37:17 AM
Thanks Kyle, I might have missed his time on the board, as I was inactive for awhile on GMG.
Yes, it's highly probable. He was only active in July and August (around the time I joined).
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 28, 2013, 03:42:50 AM
I miss Lethe. She had a lot of interesting comments and interests.
Aye.
Post by: Parsifal on October 29, 2013, 11:48:51 AM
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 29, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
Three weeks, now, and no Opus106. When do we dispatch a search party?
Hmm, it is a bit long, even for Navneeth. Hope he's OK. He's my first 'classical music' buddy. :(
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 29, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
8)
Post by: North Star on October 29, 2013, 01:05:52 PM
He states that he is fine. I believe him. :)Something must be done about that, to make him return. ;)
8)
Post by: Christo on October 29, 2013, 02:11:10 PM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 30, 2013, 03:46:07 AM
Post by: North Star on October 30, 2013, 03:53:26 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 30, 2013, 03:54:32 AM
Post by: North Star on October 30, 2013, 04:00:40 AM
Post by: vandermolen on October 31, 2013, 09:18:03 AM
Same here, Neal.
Me too.
Post by: Marc on November 10, 2013, 12:02:01 PM
He hasn't logged in for about 10 days, which is quite unusual.
I hope he's OK.
I sent him an e-mail, but no response so far.
Post by: Mirror Image on November 11, 2013, 04:43:00 PM
I can imagine him all hunched over in a corner of a room mumbling to himself "John will return to late-Romanticism..." over and over again. :P
Post by: Brian on November 11, 2013, 05:39:40 PM
I haven't seen Kyle (Kyjo) for quite some time.
His profile says "Last Active: Today, 5:18 PM"
Post by: Mirror Image on November 11, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
His profile says "Last Active: Today, 5:18 PM"
Hmmm....I guess he's just lurking and not bothering to post. The poll station is quite empty without him. :)
Post by: petrarch on November 11, 2013, 06:21:16 PM
I'm listening to Xenakis, Scelsi, Cerha, etc.
You're into Cerha? Welcome to the klangkompositionen club! Better discuss this over in the proper thread.
Post by: Mirror Image on November 11, 2013, 07:15:05 PM
You're into Cerha? Welcome to the klangkompositionen club! Better discuss this over in the proper thread.
I am indeed! But, of course, I know so little of his music but I bought several recordings, so hopefully I'll have something half-way intelligent to say. :)
Post by: Marc on November 12, 2013, 08:48:43 AM
I miss my fellow organ lover and Bach admirer premont.
He hasn't logged in for about 10 days, which is quite unusual.
I hope he's OK.
I sent him an e-mail, but no response so far.
He's OK. :)
Internet conncection problems were/are the cause of his absence.
I think he will be back in about two weeks.
Post by: Gordo on November 12, 2013, 11:04:34 AM
He's OK. :)
Internet conncection problems were/are the cause of his absence.
I think he will be back in about two weeks.
Excellent! :)
That is really a great news.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 12, 2013, 11:06:24 AM
Post by: OrchestralNut on November 12, 2013, 12:54:08 PM
Post by: Octave on November 12, 2013, 01:27:01 PM
I can imagine him all hunched over in a corner of a room mumbling to himself "John will return to late-Romanticism..." over and over again. :P
I liked Kyjo and enjoyed his spirited posts and benefited from more than few of his recommendations. He seemed to have a good sense of humor about the rather execrable, pack-of-wolves, really pretty shameful treatment that he seemed to receive at GMG. I guess I read a small percentage of his prolific number of posts, though; I'm assuming I just didn't read the posts of his that cleared the way for this treatment? I admired the way he handled what really appeared to be widespread bullying and condescension....it usually seemed pretty gracious or at least affable, based on my random, unwilling sample of incidents.
I hope he sticks around.
I, too, hope Nav returns to us soon.
Post by: Mirror Image on November 12, 2013, 07:16:54 PM
I liked Kyjo and enjoyed his spirited posts and benefited from more than few of his recommendations. He seemed to have a good sense of humor about the rather execrable, pack-of-wolves, really pretty shameful treatment that he seemed to receive at GMG. I guess I read a small percentage of his prolific number of posts, though; I'm assuming I just didn't read the posts of his that cleared the way for this treatment? I admired the way he handled what really appeared to be widespread bullying and condescension....it usually seemed pretty gracious or at least affable, based on my random, unwilling sample of incidents.
I hope he sticks around.
I certainly didn't mind having Kyle around but one thing that did bug me about him was every time I made a post regarding a purchase I made with, and here's the important part, a composer he doesn't 'approve' of, then he would always leave a sad emoticon or some other thing indicating that he was unhappy with my purchase. I didn't mind the first couple of times, but it seemed like each time I posted a purchase in 'latest purchases' thread he would have some kind of reaction. Maybe he was just joking around around or was he being serious? Whatever the case may be, I got burned out of his constant replies with essentially the same kind of remark over and over again. I don't need anyone's approval about what I buy, but I always welcome comments regarding the music or the performances, but I don't need some broken record disapproving of my purchases every time I make a post. That's just not cool at all.
Other than this annoyance, I had no problems with him. I, too, hope he sticks around.
Post by: Gordo on November 12, 2013, 08:35:41 PM
I mean: It's not probably the best invitation to return, if that's the case.
I just wanted to say that. A comment in good faith, anyway. :)
Post by: Brian on November 12, 2013, 08:37:22 PM
I rather felt it was the other way around, Octave.
There was a lot of long-lasting fallout and distrust from the episode when he created the "Unsung Composers" thread and a few people, notably Sforzando and I (and someone else - was it Scarpia?), started a philosophical discussion about the whole concept of unsung-ness and underrated-ness, and how to determine it. Unfortunately the result was that kyjo began a "joke" campaign of censoring "Unsung" claiming it was verboten.
It was a bit like the whole issue with 71dB and Elgar, except if 71dB had gone around jokingly mocking his own fondness for Elgar without external prompting. Live and let live; Kyle can and should continue to be a valuable resource for obscure composers - like helping me build a Herman Koppel playlist - and folks like me can indulge in our Beethoven nights, and we can all live in peace.
Post by: Gordo on November 12, 2013, 08:47:08 PM
Gordo - more and more of your username is going missing! Soon you will just be "Go".I found it funny because Gordo is "fat" in Spanish. :)
Post by: Brian on November 12, 2013, 08:54:17 PM
I found it funny because Gordo is "fat" in Spanish. :)
Indeed. Here in Texas we have a doughnut shop called "Gourdough's" - for two reasons. One is gourmet + doughnut, but the other is because eating there makes you fat ;D
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 12, 2013, 09:06:55 PM
Live and let live; Kyle can and should continue to be a valuable resource for obscure composers - like helping me build a Herman Koppel playlist - and folks like me can indulge in our Beethoven nights, and we can all live in peace.
That would make for a more edifying GMG - and more fun, too! :)
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 12, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
I found it funny because Gordo is "fat" in Spanish. :)
By the way, err...fatty, that's one awesome avatar! :)
Post by: amw on November 12, 2013, 10:10:31 PM
I rather felt it was the other way around, Octave. It seemed to me he came on board with an attitude to spread the gospel of the "unknown composer" but not always benevolently. I'm not the overly sensitive type but more than once I felt the sting from him for daring to listen to "mainstream" classical.I've never really talked to Kyjo; there are definitely some things about his posts and personality that I find offputting and even grating, but that is my problem, not his. That said, I do enjoy reading his enthusiastic responses to music (like those of the other relative "newbies" with whom he's associated—madaboutmahler, Lisztianwagner, etc), which are a far cry from the more usual jaded GMG fare of comparing Mahler symphonies and Beethoven sonatas as though they were cars. If he were to start a blog with each entry showcasing a particular little-known work or composer, I for one would read it.
He also had a habit of shrouding his own condescension in that typical "I was only joking, dude, chill out" manner. Which got old fast.
(Aren't we a nice bunch of people, talking about someone behind their back???)
That said he hasn't been on AMF either so I imagine he's just been busy and is planning to return to his more regular 20-a-day posting schedule when possible :P
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 13, 2013, 03:01:26 AM
Indeed. Here in Texas we have a doughnut shop called "Gourdough's" - for two reasons. One is gourmet + doughnut, but the other is because eating there makes you fat ;D
Well done.
Post by: The new erato on November 13, 2013, 03:02:36 AM
Post by: kyjo on November 13, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
Post by: kyjo on November 13, 2013, 06:19:28 PM
I haven't seen Kyle (Kyjo) for quite some time. I guess he was so crushed that I'm listening to Xenakis, Scelsi, Cerha, etc. that he has entered into a deep depression. :)
I can imagine him all hunched over in a corner of a room mumbling to himself "John will return to late-Romanticism..." over and over again. :P
;D
I do hope that you will return to late-romanticism, but I didn't go so far as to hunch in a corner and mumble to myself. ;) I apologize for my disapproving attitude to you exploring more "avant-garde" composers. I have absolutely no right to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't listen to. Since we're buddies, my "disapprovals" were half-joking, but I'll admit to being disappointed when you are getting composers I don't like. But that's my problem, not yours. :)
Post by: Brian on November 13, 2013, 06:37:23 PM
Hi guys, I'm back! Thanks to those of you who had kind things to say about me. :) I don't went to get into an argument with those who didn't, though. I have been absent from GMG from no other reason than that I have been extremely busy lately.
Hooray! Now let's talk about how awesome orfeo's Holmboe order was.
Post by: Mirror Image on November 13, 2013, 06:37:47 PM
;D
I do hope that you will return to late-romanticism, but I didn't go so far as to hunch in a corner and mumble to myself. ;) I apologize for my disapproving attitude to you exploring more "avant-garde" composers. I have absolutely no right to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't listen to. Since we're buddies, my "disapprovals" were half-joking, but I'll admit to being disappointed when you are getting composers I don't like. But that's my problem, not yours. :)
All is forgiven and apology accepted, Kyle. Let's focus on composers we both like and want to talk about and forget about the ones that don't. I guess I shouldn't have said I'm 'leaving' late-Romanticism, because, for me, some of my favorite composers were late-Romantics, so I could never leave. My mind just gets into a different headspace sometimes and I tend to 'push aside' music that I love from time to time to focus on music that I've become intrigued by. Of course, my return is eminent and I'm about to change my avatar again! I'm going to go back to my Sibelius avatar. Goodness I LOVE his music. I own 18 cycles of his symphonies and I still feel this isn't 'enough'! ;) :D
Welcome back, BTW!
Post by: kyjo on November 13, 2013, 06:50:02 PM
Hooray! Now let's talk about how awesome orfeo's Holmboe order was.
Yeah, anyone who likes Holmboe can be considered a homie of mine! 8) What should we call ourselves? The Holmbonians? The Holmboites? The Holmboe Homies? ;D
Post by: kyjo on November 13, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
All is forgiven and apology accepted, Kyle. Let's focus on composers we both like and want to talk about and forget about the ones that don't. I guess I shouldn't have said I'm 'leaving' late-Romanticism, because, for me, some of my favorite composers were late-Romantics, so I could never leave. My mind just gets into a different headspace sometimes and I tend to 'push aside' music that I love from time to time to focus on music that I've become intrigued by. Of course, my return is eminent and I'm about to change my avatar again! I'm going to go back to my Sibelius avatar. Goodness I LOVE his music. I own 18 cycles of his symphonies and I still feel this isn't 'enough'! ;) :D
Welcome back, BTW!
Good to hear, my friend. :) Yeah, sometimes I just can't get over how awesome (must stop using this word ::)) a composer Sibelius was. I've always considered him to be a "late-romantic", but many insist that he's firmly a 20th century composer. His ideas are rather forward-looking in that they largely eschew late-romantic excess and use that organic development he is so famous for, but his musical language itself is late-romantic IMO. What do you think, John?
Post by: Brian on November 13, 2013, 07:01:07 PM
Yeah, anyone who likes Holmboe can be considered a homie of mine! 8) What should we call ourselves? The Holmbonians? The Holmboites? The Holmboe Homies? ;D
I like Holmboe Homies, but there's also the Sherlock Holmboes, the Holmboeheads, and my personal favorite, the Holmbovines.
Post by: Mirror Image on November 13, 2013, 07:03:15 PM
Good to hear, my friend. :) Yeah, sometimes I just can't get over how awesome (must stop using this word ::)) a composer Sibelius was. I've always considered him to be a "late-romantic", but many insist that he's firmly a 20th century composer. His ideas are rather forward-looking in that they largely eschew late-romantic excess and use that organic development he is so famous for, but his musical language itself is late-romantic IMO. What do you think, John?
I think Sibelius' musical language was more ahead of his time than people give him credit for. I think late-Romanticism was just too stifling for him so he had to find a way out of this style and his way was what you're talking about. He found a way to build some of the most remarkable textures by giving the music room to breathe. He also was one of the first composers (to my knowledge) to start favoring silence in his symphonies. This kind of approach predates so many composers and has inspired many others. I'm not sure how influential he is nowadays, but that's beside the point, for me, there was no greater symphonist than Sibelius. A bold statement for sure, but one I feel very strongly about. Nobody sounded like him and his voice was truly his own.
Post by: kyjo on November 13, 2013, 07:15:37 PM
I think Sibelius' musical language was more ahead of his time than people give him credit for. I think late-Romanticism was just too stifling for him so he had to find a way out of this style and his way was what you're talking about. He found a way to build some of the most remarkable textures by giving the music room to breathe. He also was one of the first composers (to my knowledge) to start favoring silence in his symphonies. This kind of approach predates so many composers and has inspired many others. I'm not sure how influential he is nowadays, but that's beside the point, for me, there was no greater symphonist than Sibelius. A bold statement for sure, but one I feel very strongly about. Nobody sounded like him and his voice was truly his own.
Interesting post! Bruckner utilized silence (pauses, rather) in his symphonies quite often. Saying Sibelius was the greatest symphonist ever really isn't such a bold statement. I consider Mahler to be the greatest symphonist ever, with Sibelius and Bruckner following close behind.
Post by: Mirror Image on November 13, 2013, 07:22:30 PM
Interesting post! Bruckner utilized silence (pauses, rather) in his symphonies quite often. Saying Sibelius was the greatest symphonist ever really isn't such a bold statement. I consider Mahler to be the greatest symphonist ever, with Sibelius and Bruckner following close behind.
Bruckner did, indeed, use silence in his symphonies, which is why I wrote that Sibelius was one of the first to use it in his symphonies. Silence was a huge part of Bruckner's sound-world, which gives Sibelius a closer linkage to Bruckner than say Mahler. I do like Mahler a lot, but I can't, for the life of me, figure out why I don't rank him too highly? I mean his music is robust, powerfully expressive, and completely personal, but, I still don't quite connect with it, the same way I do other composers say Sibelius or Bruckner. I don't listen to Bruckner that much these days either. My three favorite symphonists would definitely be Sibelius, Shostakovich, and Vaughan Williams. For me, it just doesn't get any better and each of them, while maybe not 'innovators,' had the most unique approach to the idiom and were completely their own persons. I do enjoy other symphonists, but these three are the ones I come back to the most and think the most highly of, but, of course, we're all different and no one will have a list exactly the same.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 14, 2013, 04:39:26 AM
Hi guys, I'm back! Thanks to those of you who had kind things to say about me. :) I don't went to get into an argument with those who didn't, though. I have been absent from GMG from no other reason than that I have been extremely busy lately.
The good kind of busy, I am sure we all hope!
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 14, 2013, 04:41:02 AM
;D
I do hope that you will return to late-romanticism, but I didn't go so far as to hunch in a corner and mumble to myself. ;) I apologize for my disapproving attitude to you exploring more "avant-garde" composers. I have absolutely no right to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't listen to. Since we're buddies, my "disapprovals" were half-joking, but I'll admit to being disappointed when you are getting composers I don't like. But that's my problem, not yours. :)
So you've spent this time coming 'round to liking Richard Strauss? Excellent! ;) 0:) 8)
Post by: North Star on November 14, 2013, 04:44:20 AM
The good kind of busy, I am sure we all hope!
So you've spent this time coming 'round to liking Richard Strauss? Excellent! ;) 0:) 8)That's roughly what I thought you meant with [t]he good kind of busy, Karl. 8)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 14, 2013, 04:48:50 AM
Post by: North Star on November 14, 2013, 05:19:03 AM
G'day, Karlo! :)Good morning, Karl! :)
Post by: OrchestralNut on November 14, 2013, 05:55:57 AM
Hi guys, I'm back! Thanks to those of you who had kind things to say about me. :) I don't went to get into an argument with those who didn't, though. I have been absent from GMG from no other reason than that I have been extremely busy lately.
Welcome back, Kyle! Very happy to see you return. :) Life very gets busy, so posting on GMG isn't always priority# uno! :D
Post by: Marc on November 15, 2013, 03:37:45 AM
Opus106 (Navneeth) has now been away since Oct. 7th. Miss him. :(
Yes, I share your feelings.
Let's hope for a comeback .... with Coopmv (Stuart) .... they both seemed to enjoy their 18th century music, which means they're good lads (contradiction prohibited :P).
Post by: kyjo on November 15, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
Post by: (: premont :) on November 16, 2013, 12:25:55 PM
He's OK. :)
Internet conncection problems were/are the cause of his absence.
I think he will be back in about two weeks.
Fortunately my internet connection works again. :) :) :)
A big cross-field had been crushed by falling wall-bricks from a condemned house in the neighbourhood, and I was told, that repair would take some time.
Post by: Bogey on November 16, 2013, 01:06:54 PM
Thanks very much, Karlo and Ray! :)
I missed your posts on the film music thread. Glad that you are back.
Post by: kyjo on November 16, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
I missed your posts on the film music thread. Glad that you are back.
Thank you! :)
By "missed" do you mean you didn't previously see my posts on the film music thread or that you would like me to post more on that thread? If the latter, then I would certainly be glad to add some more comments there!
Post by: Bogey on November 16, 2013, 02:50:15 PM
Thank you! :)
By "missed" do you mean you didn't previously see my posts on the film music thread or that you would like me to post more on that thread? If the latter, then I would certainly be glad to add some more comments there!
The latter. It is one of my favorite threads on the board.
Post by: kyjo on November 16, 2013, 03:05:45 PM
The latter. It is one of my favorite threads on the board.
Thanks for clarifying! I'll be sure to post there sometime.
Post by: Gordo on November 17, 2013, 03:01:22 PM
Fortunately my internet connection works again. :) :) :)
A big cross-field had been crushed by falling wall-bricks from a condemned house in the neighbourhood, and I was told, that repair would take some time.
It's great to see you online again, Premont! :)
Post by: Marc on November 17, 2013, 11:10:51 PM
Fortunately my internet connection works again. :) :) :)
A big cross-field had been crushed by falling wall-bricks from a condemned house in the neighbourhood, and I was told, that repair would take some time.
As long as them bricks didn't ruin the organ of the neighbourhood church, it's OK.
Welcome back!
Post by: (: premont :) on November 18, 2013, 03:03:34 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 18, 2013, 03:11:57 AM
Fortunately my internet connection works again. :) :) :)
A big cross-field had been crushed by falling wall-bricks from a condemned house in the neighbourhood, and I was told, that repair would take some time.
Welcome back!
Post by: (: premont :) on November 18, 2013, 03:29:04 AM
Welcome back!
Thanks. :)
Post by: OrchestralNut on November 19, 2013, 12:06:12 PM
He has one of my all-time favourite avatars. A cup of Keemun tea. :)
Post by: OrchestralNut on November 20, 2013, 06:26:21 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on November 20, 2013, 07:45:56 PM
Conor71 in Australia left? :'(
I think Conor is a frequent visitor of the Talk Classical forum and has been spending more time over there. He's such a cool guy and I miss him here, too, Ray.
Post by: OrchestralNut on November 21, 2013, 05:41:19 AM
I think Conor is a frequent visitor of the Talk Classical forum and has been spending more time over there. He's such a cool guy and I miss him here, too, Ray.
Oh, I see. Thanks, John. :)
Didn't realize that 'Talk Classical' was still breathing. I was on there as a member in its very early days.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 21, 2013, 05:59:37 AM
Didn't realize that 'Talk Classical' was still breathing.
Maybe, zombie-like, it's just shambling along . . . .
Bonjour, Ray!
Post by: TheGSMoeller on November 21, 2013, 11:05:15 AM
Oh, I see. Thanks, John. :)
Didn't realize that 'Talk Classical' was still breathing. I was on there as a member in its very early days.
I talk classical everyday...here in GMG that is. :)
Post by: Mirror Image on November 21, 2013, 09:38:52 PM
Oh, I see. Thanks, John. :)
Didn't realize that 'Talk Classical' was still breathing. I was on there as a member in its very early days.
Yep, Ray. Talk Classical is still going strong. I prefer GMG, but TC has some nice people there that are quite knowledgeable.
Post by: OrchestralNut on December 05, 2013, 05:02:38 PM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on December 05, 2013, 05:39:25 PM
Did another member leave?? I recall the total post count being in the 722,000 + range. Now it's in the 720,000 range. ???
Hard to use that as a gauge of anything though, Ray. Very few members delete all their posts when they go. I am unaware of anyone leaving, FWIW. :-\
8)
Post by: OrchestralNut on December 05, 2013, 05:41:32 PM
Hard to use that as a gauge of anything though, Ray. Very few members delete all their posts when they go. I am unaware of anyone leaving, FWIW. :-\
8)
Oh, ok Gurn. :) I was mistaken in that if anyone left and closed their account, the total post count was reduced (even though their posts still show up as guests).
Post by: springrite on December 05, 2013, 05:42:33 PM
Hard to use that as a gauge of anything though, Ray. Very few members delete all their posts when they go. I am unaware of anyone leaving, FWIW. :-\Other than M, I don't notice people leaving either. I communicate with the people who ARE here.
8)
Well, I did miss Uncle Harry when he left ( as my wife and Kimi kept reminding me).
Post by: Brian on December 06, 2013, 06:39:29 AM
Hard to use that as a gauge of anything though, Ray. Very few members delete all their posts when they go. I am unaware of anyone leaving, FWIW. :-\
We know you moved all of Sarge's pictures of babes to a secret moderators-only board...
Post by: OrchestralNut on December 06, 2013, 06:43:08 AM
We know you moved all of Sarge's pictures of babes to a secret moderators-only board...
:laugh:
Post by: Gurn Blanston on December 06, 2013, 06:55:54 AM
We know you moved all of Sarge's pictures of babes to a secret moderators-only board...
And your point...? ;)
8)
Post by: springrite on December 06, 2013, 06:56:57 AM
And your point...? ;)
8)
An advise to observe moderation?
Post by: North Star on December 06, 2013, 07:00:45 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on December 06, 2013, 08:44:41 AM
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Well, that's the best part, isn't it? >:D $:)
8)
Post by: Cato on December 06, 2013, 11:45:51 AM
Oh, I see. Thanks, John. :)
Didn't realize that 'Talk Classical' was still breathing. I was on there as a member in its very early days.
Never heard of the group: is it full of posers and poseurs? :o ;)
Of course, at least it isn't called Talque Classique! ???
Post by: Sammy on December 06, 2013, 11:49:36 AM
Never heard of the group: is it full of posers and poseurs? :o ;)
Talk Classical is full of the same type of folks who reside here. For all I know, they are the exact same people who have changed their names to protect their true identities.
Post by: Florestan on December 06, 2013, 12:01:03 PM
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Immanis pecoris custos, immanior ipse ;D
Post by: (: premont :) on December 07, 2013, 08:17:38 AM
Three weeks, now, and no Opus106. When do we dispatch a search party?
Two months, now, and still no Opus106.
Hope he is doing well.
Post by: toledobass on December 08, 2013, 08:29:15 AM
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Post by: Cato on December 08, 2013, 11:48:55 AM
I have been lurking on an off for the past year or two. Making an effort to participate again. Good to see a lot of old friends still here, hope to meet some new ones.
A
Hi Allan!
What is the Toledo Symphony up to for the rest of the year?
Post by: Mirror Image on December 08, 2013, 08:42:16 PM
Post by: OrchestralNut on December 26, 2013, 06:57:54 AM
Well Kyle (Kyjo) is missing again. :(
Yeah, I miss him too. Hopefully he will come back. :(
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, Kyle. (if you read this). :)
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on December 26, 2013, 07:15:11 AM
Gordo - more and more of your username is going missing! Soon you will just be "Go". Anyway, kyjo was here very recently, he just hasn't posted in a while. No need for worry, I think.
There was a lot of long-lasting fallout and distrust from the episode when he created the "Unsung Composers" thread and a few people, notably Sforzando and I (and someone else - was it Scarpia?), started a philosophical discussion about the whole concept of unsung-ness and underrated-ness, and how to determine it. Unfortunately the result was that kyjo began a "joke" campaign of censoring "Unsung" claiming it was verboten.
It was a bit like the whole issue with 71dB and Elgar, except if 71dB had gone around jokingly mocking his own fondness for Elgar without external prompting. Live and let live; Kyle can and should continue to be a valuable resource for obscure composers - like helping me build a Herman Koppel playlist - and folks like me can indulge in our Beethoven nights, and we can all live in peace.
Thank you for mentioning me, Brian. The whole concept of what constitutes "under" or "overratedness" seems to me difficult to assess at best. (I do from time to time buy CDs from this one or that one's "unsung" list, and the results are variable - thumbs up say for Weinberg and Pettersson, thumbs down for Terterian and Braga-Santos.) But I can be gone for months and no one ever seems to miss me in any case, one reason why I've more or less given up on trying to write anything serious here. It's just too much effort with no reward.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on December 26, 2013, 07:17:14 AM
Anyone heard from Navneeth (Opus 106) in the last week.
He was last active on 10/7.
My knowledge of where the actual impact zone was is hazy, but I was under the impression that Chennai was not directly threatened by that enormous Bengal cyclone.
Perhaps he's up to Opus 109.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on December 26, 2013, 09:01:45 AM
But I can be gone for months and no one ever seems to miss me in any case, one reason why I've more or less given up on trying to write anything serious here. It's just too much effort with no reward.
Well, you don't know that. You are one of the very few that I can say 'I always read your posts'. But the general feeling that you have, that's it's difficult to expect more than a modicum of serious posting is, unfortunately, true. Hard to see a way around that, there are so many different expectations and capabilities. :-\
8)
Post by: North Star on December 26, 2013, 09:27:11 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on December 26, 2013, 11:05:38 AM
The reward ought to be in the posting itself. No matter how much I enjoy reading posts from you two. I usually don't have anything worth adding so my appreciation tends to be silent.
I find many of your contributions valuable. Usually they are in areas with which I have no solid input to return, for I just file it away for future reference. No one knows everything (despite what they might think) so reading what someone else has written about is a good way to learn. My own scope is pretty limited, if somewhat in depth. :-\
8)
Post by: Cato on December 26, 2013, 11:45:22 AM
Thank you for mentioning me, Brian. The whole concept of what constitutes "under" or "overratedness" seems to me difficult to assess at best. (I do from time to time buy CDs from this one or that one's "unsung" list, and the results are variable - thumbs up say for Weinberg and Pettersson, thumbs down for Terterian and Braga-Santos.) But I can be gone for months and no one ever seems to miss me in any case, one reason why I've more or less given up on trying to write anything serious here. It's just too much effort with no reward.
Certainly I understand that, as do (probably) many others. It would be nice to have the time and money to follow (e.g. insert modern Scandinavian composer here) in depth, assuming that I liked (modern Scandinavian composer) to begin with. If I did, then I could follow a good number of topics here!
For the more general topics, e.g. on musical aesthetics, things which are of interest to me crash and burn more often than not.
But there are interesting comments on assorted items, and people have written that they do read a good number things, but just feel they have nothing to add to the conversation...or the monologue!
Post by: North Star on December 26, 2013, 02:39:07 PM
I find many of your contributions valuable. Usually they are in areas with which I have no solid input to return, for I just file it away for future reference. No one knows everything (despite what they might think) so reading what someone else has written about is a good way to learn. My own scope is pretty limited, if somewhat in depth. :-\Thanks!
8)
Yes, I think our areas of special interest are rather different - though of course I might be a militant Haydnian in a couple of years :D.
But in my opinion it's only a good thing that we're all interested in slightly different things. One can get something out of the posts concerning something that isn't really of too much interest to one - either finding new music to listen to, or just new things to appreciate in other music. The Brianites are a different subspecies, though - mostly lurking in their own cave. ;)
But, tempus fugit..
Post by: Mirror Image on December 26, 2013, 06:23:49 PM
Post by: Sean on December 26, 2013, 07:53:23 PM
Thank you for mentioning me, Brian. The whole concept of what constitutes "under" or "overratedness" seems to me difficult to assess at best. (I do from time to time buy CDs from this one or that one's "unsung" list, and the results are variable - thumbs up say for Weinberg and Pettersson, thumbs down for Terterian and Braga-Santos.) But I can be gone for months and no one ever seems to miss me in any case, one reason why I've more or less given up on trying to write anything serious here. It's just too much effort with no reward.
Hi. You're not quite alone in this understanding. The world has changed over the last decade, again for the worse. I came across this forum in 2002 and the quality and range of comment was far superior and most impressive. If I'd found it as it is today I'd certainly never have bothered with it.
Why the decline? It's all around us throughout life in the postmodern mush of disbelief in objective standards and instead mindless personal opinion. The management here could have promoted higher standards but I understand it's not easy.
People used to listen to a work and start a thread on it. Now hardly anybody here really listens to anything and instead it's in one ear, on the What are you listening to? thread, out the other, and onto the next work and the next superficial pink fluff experience.
Post by: OrchestralNut on December 26, 2013, 07:58:47 PM
Hi. You're not quite alone in this understanding. The world has changed over the last decade, again for the worse. I came across this forum in 2002 and the quality and range of comment was far superior and most impressive. If I'd found it as it is today I'd certainly never have bothered with it.
Why the decline? It's all around us throughout life in the postmodern mush of disbelief in objective standards and instead mindless personal opinion. The management here could have promoted higher standards but I understand it's not easy.
People used to listen to a work and start a thread on it. Now hardly anybody here really listens to anything and instead it's in one ear, on the What are you listening to? thread, out the other, and onto the next work and the next superficial pink fluff experience.
:D
Happy Holidays, Sean! :)
Post by: OrchestralNut on December 26, 2013, 08:00:36 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on December 26, 2013, 10:00:30 PM
Another GMG member I miss is Gold Knight. Hasn't been around for months. I liked his posts of "under the baton of....", or "lead by Maestro....".
Yeah, Gold Knight was cool. He's normally found on Talk Classical these days, but my absence from that forum has pretty much kept me 'out of the loop' with everyone there.
Post by: Que on December 27, 2013, 12:58:28 AM
I really miss them… :(
But I guess some have a life outside of GMG. :D Come back anyway, guys! :)
Q
Post by: Marc on December 27, 2013, 05:04:55 AM
Post by: Gordo on December 27, 2013, 05:15:20 AM
AFAIK, Antoine Marchand = Gordon Shumway = Gordo .... and he's still quite active. :)
Do you have any proof on that? ;) ;D
Post by: Marc on December 27, 2013, 05:18:51 AM
Do you have any proof on that? ;) ;D
Who's asking? :P
Post by: Gordo on December 27, 2013, 05:28:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV-fg
Post by: Marc on December 27, 2013, 05:48:03 AM
;D
Post by: Que on December 27, 2013, 07:54:48 AM
AFAIK, Antoine Marchand = Gordon Shumway = Gordo .... and he's still quite active. :)
Right. ;D Now you mention it, I should have known. Or rather, I sometimes do know but then keep forgetting again and being confused.
You guys keep changing those names and avatars to give me the illusion that the contingent of HIP and Early/ Baroque Music lovers is ever growing!! :laugh:
Q
Post by: Sean on December 27, 2013, 06:48:28 PM
:D
Happy Holidays, Sean! :)
Thanks. I have less than zero interest in Christmas I'm afraid, too much religious baggage for a Hindu and part of a culture that was often rather negative for me.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 27, 2013, 06:50:21 PM
Post by: Sean on December 28, 2013, 04:37:59 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 28, 2013, 05:45:38 AM
Post by: Florestan on December 29, 2013, 12:28:28 AM
Why the decline? It's all around us throughout life in the postmodern mush of disbelief in objective standards and instead mindless personal opinion.
You certainly know a thing or two about it.The irrefutable proof is below.
I have less than zero interest in Christmas I'm afraid, too much religious baggage for a Hindu and part of a culture that was often rather negative for me.
Post by: Sean on December 29, 2013, 02:39:38 AM
Come on guys, music is finished and over like so many aspects of humanity. Be honest, hang up the gloves and agree with me.
Post by: The new erato on December 29, 2013, 02:46:15 AM
You two pillars of the establishment, your disbelief in my great genius is futile I assure you. I am the forum's par excellence long suffering attendee. And reducing everything I and anyone else says to a relative view is but one more point to me...I appreciate the humour of this post. :D
Come on guys, music is finished and over like so many aspects of humanity. Be honest, hang up the gloves and agree with me.
But I don't think humanity is finished just yet.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 29, 2013, 07:33:23 AM
Post by: springrite on December 29, 2013, 07:42:37 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on December 29, 2013, 11:28:34 AM
You two pillars of the establishment, your disbelief in my great genius is futile I assure you. I am the forum's par excellence long suffering attendee. And reducing everything I and anyone else says to a relative view is but one more point to me...
Come on guys, music is finished and over like so many aspects of humanity. Be honest, hang up the gloves and agree with me.
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6d4s5AuHMZiH756lojv91w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTI5MztweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz02MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/dt131222.jpg)
Post by: Sammy on December 29, 2013, 11:39:23 AM
You two pillars of the establishment, your disbelief in my great genius is futile I assure you. I am the forum's par excellence long suffering attendee.
That's only because you insist on playing that role.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 29, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
The ignore function is lovely. :D
QFT
Post by: Sean on December 29, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on December 29, 2013, 05:27:59 PM
Certainly I understand that, as do (probably) many others. It would be nice to have the time and money to follow (e.g. insert modern Scandinavian composer here) in depth, assuming that I liked (modern Scandinavian composer) to begin with. If I did, then I could follow a good number of topics here!
For the more general topics, e.g. on musical aesthetics, things which are of interest to me crash and burn more often than not.
But there are interesting comments on assorted items, and people have written that they do read a good number things, but just feel they have nothing to add to the conversation...or the monologue!
I appreciate your comment and those from some others. I find musical aesthetics and history of interest, perhaps more than most, and I don't necessarily expect interesting replies, though they come at times from the likes of amw and Brian. What irritates me most, I suppose, is the thoughtless sniping from people who have nothing to contribute, but who simply want to take the opportunity to sneer at someone who takes a little more time than to toss off a few one-liners:
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I don't see the point of having this long drawn out pedantic discussion on the meaning of the word "underrated."
Yawn......don't feel like reading all this......
Listen Sforzando, I'm done arguing with you. Your posts make no sense to me.
Like my "underrated composers" thread... people can't just have fun and go with it, but have to philosophize and analyze the meaning of the word "underrated."
Post by: Szykneij on December 30, 2013, 05:10:44 AM
In the past, a "like" button has been suggested. Perhaps something like that would allow readers like me to acknowledge a post we find interesting or helpful while letting the posters know their contributions are appreciated.
Also, at any given moment, there are guests reading the forum in a number multiple times that of members on-line. Just because a post or thread isn't getting a lot of activity doesn't mean it's not valuable.
Finally, we've had missing members (and I'm not referring to any individuals posting or mentioned in this thread) who clearly participated with an air of self-importance and became bitter when their ego wasn't satisfied. It's best that these individuals remain among the missing. While I also don't care for a lot of the negative posts that are made, they do sometimes stimulate further discussion and it's a better situation than having a vanity board.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2013, 05:33:48 AM
Post by: Szykneij on December 30, 2013, 05:44:48 AM
Tony, I have read your post, and I like it.
What! You don't love it? >:(
Time to start my "Leaving GMG" thread!
:)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2013, 05:51:21 AM
Back to (poco) Sfz's post/citation:
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Like my "underrated composers" thread... people can't just have fun and go with it, but have to philosophize and analyze the meaning of the word "underrated."
Of course, for some of us, the philosophy and analysis are part of the fun.
Post by: Szykneij on December 30, 2013, 06:02:26 AM
"I no longer love the way you hold your pens and pencils . . . ."
I did get sweater for Christmas ...
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2013, 06:09:31 AM
Post by: Sean on December 30, 2013, 07:09:39 AM
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Post by: Sergeant Rock on December 30, 2013, 07:24:41 AM
Time to start my "Leaving GMG" thread!
Sean beat you to it. Our resident genius is gone! O tragic day :'(
Sarge
Post by: Brewski on December 30, 2013, 07:31:29 AM
Sean beat you to it. Our resident genius is gone! O tragic day :'(
Sarge
Probably in search of another galaxy. 8)
--Bruce
Post by: knight66 on December 30, 2013, 07:43:44 AM
Mike
Post by: Brewski on December 30, 2013, 07:46:20 AM
Yeah, like Fu Manchu and indigestion, he will be back.
Mike
:laugh: 8) ;D
--Bruce
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2013, 07:48:30 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2013, 07:48:58 AM
Yeah, like Fu Manchu and indigestion, he will be back.
Mike
Dude! Thanks for sharing (visually) your trip!
Post by: knight66 on December 30, 2013, 07:49:47 AM
Mike
Post by: Que on December 30, 2013, 08:50:38 AM
Yeah, like Fu Manchu and indigestion, he will be back.
Mike
;) :laugh:
Post by: The new erato on December 30, 2013, 08:52:59 AM
Yeah, like Fu Manchu and indigestion, he will be back.I thought that was The Terminator?
Mike
Post by: knight66 on December 30, 2013, 10:38:12 AM
Mike
Post by: Cato on December 30, 2013, 11:17:09 AM
Sincere best wishes folks...
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Here is what REALLY happened to Sean:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/08/article-2012695-0CEDA90600000578-713_306x423.jpg)
This is what happens when you don't check the dates on certain records!
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2013, 11:19:51 AM
Post by: Cato on December 30, 2013, 11:28:15 AM
Busted, again . . . .
For those interested in the reference above, send me a PM! ;)
Post by: mn dave on December 30, 2013, 01:32:00 PM
It was awful.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2013, 02:17:28 PM
Post by: The new erato on December 30, 2013, 02:32:56 PM
I missed a member once.Not THE member I hope? Though that certainly would go some way towards explaining some things....
It was awful.
Post by: mn dave on December 30, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
Not THE member I hope? Though that certainly would go some way towards explaining some things....
No, that one guy.
Post by: Mirror Image on December 30, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
Sincere best wishes folks...
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Didn't know you. I don't even think we spoke to each other but once or twice. In any event, good luck Obi-Wan.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 30, 2013, 04:21:29 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on December 30, 2013, 05:06:21 PM
He was the guy weeping in the corner while listening to Nixon in China.
Oh...how unfortunate. :D
Post by: Brian on December 31, 2013, 08:38:42 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 31, 2013, 08:51:28 AM
Backing up Tony, another board I visit has a like button, but no dislike button. Now, it uses different software, so that may not be applicable here. But a like button would be great because then I will finally have the validation I've always sought. 0:)
(* chortle *)
Post by: springrite on December 31, 2013, 08:55:10 AM
Backing up Tony, another board I visit has a like button, but no dislike button. Now, it uses different software, so that may not be applicable here. But a like button would be great because then I will finally have the validation I've always sought. 0:)
*Will press "like" button for CDs!*
Post by: Tom 1960 on March 16, 2014, 05:39:13 PM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 16, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
I don't get around these parts much these days but I was wondering if Andre or his former screenname "Lilas Pastia" still posts here on the boards? He resided in Quebec. He was a good egg. We used to keep in regular contact years back. Any info you guys can provide would be appreciated.
Andre is still a member, but he doesn't post anymore. His screen name now is [wait for it] Andre! If you drop him a PM it will still get to him by email and he may answer you. Last I heard, he was being transferred to a more rural area of Quebec and so isn't in Montreal any longer.
Cheers,
8)
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 16, 2014, 06:01:24 PM
Andre is still a member, but he doesn't post anymore. His screen name now is [wait for it] Andre! If you drop him a PM it will still get to him by email and he may answer you. Last I heard, he was being transferred to a more rural area of Quebec and so isn't in Montreal any longer.
Cheers,
8)
Hmm, well it seems he has deregistered. I hadn't noted that, it must be recent. *sigh*
8)
Post by: Tom 1960 on March 16, 2014, 06:05:49 PM
Hmm, well it seems he has deregistered. I hadn't noted that, it must be recent. *sigh*Well that was quick work, Gurn. Somehow I knew you would chime in. Thanks for the info my friend!
8)
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 16, 2014, 06:07:54 PM
Well that was quick work, Gurn. Somehow I knew you would chime in. Thanks for the info my friend!
You're welcome, Tom. Always a pleasure.
8)
Post by: Cato on March 16, 2014, 06:11:40 PM
I don't understand it: someone told me he became angry on one of the topics (about authentic performances on original instruments?) and left GMG. Certainly I was not connected to that argument in any way, but he stopped writing around that time.
Post by: Tom 1960 on March 16, 2014, 06:16:33 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on March 17, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
Andre' wrote to me also, and even sent homemade CD's, but suddenly stopped answering everything over a year ago.
I don't understand it: someone told me he became angry on one of the topics (about authentic performances on original instruments?) and left GMG. Certainly I was not connected to that argument in any way, but he stopped writing around that time.
Seems kind of silly for anyone to leave GMG based on some kind of argument. I mean I know I'm far from perfect and I have left GMG once (for a month I believe), but I did come back. You guys are my friends, so why would I want to leave now?
Post by: kishnevi on April 10, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Post by: André on April 26, 2014, 04:31:30 PM
Hi Tom ! Hi Mike(s) !! Give me some time to feel my way in again !
Post by: Sergeant Rock on April 27, 2014, 05:46:07 AM
Hello ! Just re-registered $:). I'm not quite reacquainted with GMG' s new lores and mores. This just happens to be the first thread I've been looking at today.
Welcome home. You've been sorely missed in the Abbey.
Sarge
Post by: OrchestralNut on April 27, 2014, 06:35:10 AM
Hello ! Just re-registered $:). I'm not quite reacquainted with GMG' s new lores and mores. This just happens to be the first thread I've been looking at today.
Hi Tom ! Hi Mike(s) !! Give me some time to feel my way in again !
Welcome back, Andre! :)
Post by: North Star on April 27, 2014, 07:36:17 AM
Post by: André on April 27, 2014, 07:40:02 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 27, 2014, 07:57:01 AM
Post by: André on April 27, 2014, 12:52:07 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on April 27, 2014, 06:10:19 PM
Post by: Que on April 27, 2014, 08:39:41 PM
Hello ! Just re-registered $:). I'm not quite reacquainted with GMG' s new lores and mores. This just happens to be the first thread I've been looking at today.
Hi Tom ! Hi Mike(s) !! Give me some time to feel my way in again !
Welcome back, André. You've been greatly missed here. :)
Q
Post by: EigenUser on April 28, 2014, 01:17:37 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 28, 2014, 02:48:17 AM
Hi Karl ! Where can I sample your latest opuses ? Any links ?
Cheers, André!
There are new works at my SoundCloud page (https://soundcloud.com/#karlhenning-1).
And at the 9th Ear's SoundCloud page (https://soundcloud.com/#9th-ear), as well.
And other new works, still on my YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/onlykarlhenning/videos).
Thank you for asking!
Post by: knight66 on April 28, 2014, 02:48:26 AM
Mike
Post by: SonicMan46 on April 28, 2014, 03:27:55 AM
Hello ! Just re-registered $:). I'm not quite reacquainted with GMG' s new lores and mores. This just happens to be the first thread I've been looking at today.
Hi André - welcome back & looking forward to your posting again! Dave :)
Post by: André on April 28, 2014, 03:51:32 AM
Thanks for the update, Karl ! I will definitely delve into your new works !
Post by: Brewski on April 28, 2014, 09:22:24 AM
--Bruce
Post by: André on April 28, 2014, 11:00:57 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 28, 2014, 11:02:35 AM
Post by: Cato on April 28, 2014, 02:29:42 PM
Last week I was wondering what had happened to Andre', but now we know he was trekking back to us, no doubt having escaped Mounties gone bad, reruns of Mr. Dress-up, and other strange anomalies to the North! 0:)
Post by: Bogey on April 28, 2014, 04:56:29 PM
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Post by: springrite on April 28, 2014, 05:08:48 PM
Welcome back!
Post by: André on April 29, 2014, 02:19:46 PM
:-*
Now, stop it ! ;D
Post by: Tom 1960 on April 29, 2014, 04:59:03 PM
Hello ! Just re-registered $:). I'm not quite reacquainted with GMG' s new lores and mores. This just happens to be the first thread I've been looking at today.Welcome back, Andre!!! 8)
Hi Tom ! Hi Mike(s) !! Give me some time to feel my way in again !
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on April 30, 2014, 02:26:06 PM
Post by: EigenUser on April 30, 2014, 02:56:46 PM
I don't even know André and I'm super glad he's back!Haha.
Speaking of missing members, I came across a member "Saul" in the composing/performing section one time and was intrigued. Too bad he's gone -- seems like an interesting person to have around here.
Post by: kishnevi on April 30, 2014, 04:57:01 PM
Haha.
Speaking of missing members, I came across a member "Saul" in the composing/performing section one time and was intrigued. Too bad he's gone -- seems like an interesting person to have around here.
Saul was interesting in a Chinese proverb sort of way.
Speaking of missing members, there's been a major absence of postings about 20th century composers in the last couple of weeks; the absence of John (Mirror Image) is deeply felt. (There are reports he's been seen hanging around the prog rock/jazz threads in the Diner, obviously a vicious rumor. >:D )
Post by: Ken B on April 30, 2014, 05:04:55 PM
Saul was interesting in a Chinese proverb sort of way.It seems John has forsaken classical for good. I saw this on craigslist:
Speaking of missing members, there's been a major absence of postings about 20th century composers in the last couple of weeks; the absence of John (Mirror Image) is deeply felt. (There are reports he's been seen hanging around the prog rock/jazz threads in the Diner, obviously a vicious rumor. >:D )
FOR SALE Excellent collection of 20th century classical music, all discs in pristine condition, many unopened. Includes huge selection of avatars and ranked lists of composers. Shostakovich half off!
There was an address in Georgia.
Post by: EigenUser on April 30, 2014, 05:10:41 PM
It seems John has forsaken classical for good. I saw this on craigslist:
FOR SALE Excellent collection of 20th century classical music, all discs in pristine condition, many unopened. Includes huge selection of avatars and ranked lists of composers. Shostakovich half off!
There was an address in Georgia.
You'd better hurry down fast! I bet he'll pay you to get any Nyman off of his hands!
Post by: Mirror Image on April 30, 2014, 06:20:37 PM
Haha.
Speaking of missing members, I came across a member "Saul" in the composing/performing section one time and was intrigued. Too bad he's gone -- seems like an interesting person to have around here.
No, trust me. You don't want Saul around. You really don't.
Post by: EigenUser on April 30, 2014, 06:23:07 PM
I know, you're probably right. But, I like the eccentrics. Keeps things interesting...
Post by: Mirror Image on April 30, 2014, 06:23:57 PM
Speaking of missing members, there's been a major absence of postings about 20th century composers in the last couple of weeks; the absence of John (Mirror Image) is deeply felt. (There are reports he's been seen hanging around the prog rock/jazz threads in the Diner, obviously a vicious rumor. >:D )
Thanks, Jeffrey. Yeah, I've been taking a break from classical for awhile. I also have been splitting time between GMG and the Prog Archives forum. I don't know when I will return to classical, but I don't see it happening anytime soon sorry to say. I'm just so hooked into prog rock at the moment.
Post by: Mirror Image on April 30, 2014, 06:25:03 PM
It seems John has forsaken classical for good. I saw this on craigslist:
FOR SALE Excellent collection of 20th century classical music, all discs in pristine condition, many unopened. Includes huge selection of avatars and ranked lists of composers. Shostakovich half off!
There was an address in Georgia.
:P Not quite, Ken! I still love classical music. Just taking a bit of a break. I have several other musical interests.
Post by: Mirror Image on April 30, 2014, 06:29:19 PM
:laugh:
I know, you're probably right. But, I like the eccentrics. Keeps things interesting...
Well, I'm certainly not keen on being called a failure and a nobody by someone who has failed to look into the mirror. I remember him being quite nasty to Karl as well. Saul really was a jerk.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 01, 2014, 02:07:28 AM
Post by: Cato on May 01, 2014, 02:41:26 AM
Well, but I am indebted to Saul for rejecting my Op.102 as the worst viola sonata in the world. As amusing things said by people who absolutely don't get your work go, that ranks mighty high 8)
Saul's music shows the dangers of $9.95 Music courses entitled "Learn These Three Simple Chords and YOU Can Be a COMPOSER!!!" 0:)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 01, 2014, 03:13:12 AM
Post by: EigenUser on May 01, 2014, 04:53:11 AM
Well, but I am indebted to Saul for rejecting my Op.102 as the worst viola sonata in the world. As amusing things said by people who absolutely don't get your work go, that ranks mighty high 8)But surely you must laugh at such a comment, right? I've been working on a viola sonata (on and off) for the past two years (surely a contestant for Saul's title, seriously) and I'd personally find that hilarious.
And some days, you don't even need that third chord . . . .Too dissonant!
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 01, 2014, 04:56:53 AM
But surely you must laugh at such a comment, right?
Absolutely!
Post by: Cato on May 01, 2014, 05:10:15 AM
For those who do not know Saul Dzorelashvili:
https://www.radiorivendell.com/music/Saul+Dzorelashvili/ (https://www.radiorivendell.com/music/Saul+Dzorelashvili/)
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Saul’s music can be described as Classical and Romantic and some of his music is Meditative and resembles Film music.
Aside from Composition, Saul is also a Fantasy digital Artist, and a Photographer.
"Film music" is pretty much all the same, so you now have a better idea of what "some" of his music sounds like! ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 01, 2014, 05:13:05 AM
Karl, what in the world was that? are you serious?
This was very tenacious, I wish it had some charm...
Post by: Mirror Image on May 01, 2014, 05:47:47 AM
Well, but I am indebted to Saul for rejecting my Op.102 as the worst viola sonata in the world. As amusing things said by people who absolutely don't get your work go, that ranks mighty high 8)
:P
Post by: The new erato on May 01, 2014, 07:21:17 AM
No, trust me. You don't want Saul around. You really don't.At least that has the advantage of us knowing where he is lurking. The thought of him slinking around - somewhere - without anybody really knowing where is pretty scary.
Post by: EigenUser on May 01, 2014, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: Saul
Let me explain to you why Stravinsky is not a Great composer.
His and the other composers’ mistake and miscalculation was based on the wrong assumption that their unique creativity and originality can’t be produced if they wrote their music within the traditional Baroque and Classical forms and styles. They began to venture to completely adventurous harmonies and forms thinking that this will boost their originality. Well there was no boost, what happen was that they created banal music which some people decided to call it ‘art’ and attach to it all their intellectual weight to support this almost delusional fantasy like ‘consensus’ much like the modernists of visual arts when they began throwing and spilling buckets of paint on empty canvases believing in their petty minds that this is ‘art’. [...]
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 01, 2014, 08:12:14 AM
Post by: springrite on May 01, 2014, 08:21:12 AM
Well, but I am indebted to Saul for rejecting my Op.102 as the worst viola sonata in the world. As amusing things said by people who absolutely don't get your work go, that ranks mighty high 8)
A badge of honour!
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on May 01, 2014, 08:27:22 AM
I once came across this before I joined this forum (searching for something Stravinsky-related on Google, I think). I just found it again. I love the first sentence -- made me laugh.
What's truly funny is his one-dimensional view of Igor, a composer of many dimensions, styles and forms. Count me as happily 'deluded' - he's in my Top Ten of greatest classical composers.
Post by: Cato on May 01, 2014, 08:35:05 AM
What's truly funny is his one-dimensional view of Igor, a composer of many dimensions, styles and forms. Count me as happily 'deluded' - he's in my Top Ten of greatest classical composers.
As I recall, Saul believed the highest heights of Music were reached by Mendelssohn.
"The rest is noise" after him, and anyone not following a Mendelssohnian path was dooooomed to be irrelevant!
Post by: Ken B on May 01, 2014, 11:20:38 AM
Well, but I am indebted to Saul for rejecting my Op.102 as the worst viola sonata in the world. As amusing things said by people who absolutely don't get your work go, that ranks mighty high 8)Meh. He just hasn't heard mine.
Post by: knight66 on May 01, 2014, 11:25:00 AM
Mike
Post by: Ken B on May 01, 2014, 01:48:01 PM
As I recall, Saul believed the highest heights of Music were reached by Mendelssohn."Any composer who doesn't understand the need for Mendelssohnism is USELESS USELESS USELESS!"
"The rest is noise" after him, and anyone not following a Mendelssohnian path was dooooomed to be irrelevant!
Yeah, I don't understand why people admire tools like that.
>:D
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on May 01, 2014, 07:04:29 PM
Post by: OrchestralNut on May 21, 2014, 03:33:05 AM
Of my 3 favorite loony-tunes posters (Sean, "Josquin" and snyprrr), only one still posts here.
I am not sure what happened to 'Josquin'. I hope he is ok, since I believe he wasn't in the best of health, if I recall correctly.
Snyprrr is active and binge posting. :D
Sean will be back, I'm sure. He always returns! ;D
Post by: Florestan on May 21, 2014, 04:36:13 AM
I am not sure what happened to 'Josquin'. I hope he is ok, since I believe he wasn't in the best of health, if I recall correctly.
I hope that, too. IIRC, he had depression and concentration / memory problems. And certainly he was better than his reputation.
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Snyprrr is active and binge posting. :D
I think he tries very hard to write at last his one intelligible post. ;D
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Sean will be back, I'm sure. He always returns! ;D
He'll return in glory with a lengthy essay on the defaults of Western civilization and lots of pictures of some Asian nymphette. ;D
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 21, 2014, 04:50:25 AM
I hope that, too. IIRC, he had depression and concentration / memory problems. And certainly he was better than his reputation.
I take your point, but my impression is, too, that he earned the reputation ;)
[ viz. snypsss ]
I think he tries very hard to write at last his one intelligible post. ;D
He does surprise one now and again . . . with quite reliable regularity, I think, if one reads about in the threads which he typically, erm, haunts . . . .
Post by: Florestan on May 21, 2014, 05:13:30 AM
[ viz. "Josquin" ]
I take your point, but my impression is, too, that he earned the reputation ;)
Don't we all? :D
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 21, 2014, 05:15:07 AM
Post by: EigenUser on May 21, 2014, 06:29:37 AM
I am not sure what happened to 'Josquin'. I hope he is ok, since I believe he wasn't in the best of health, if I recall correctly.I saw his post on the Stockhausen thread -- something like "how convenient, he has a spaceship, why don't we put him and his music in his spaceship and send it to the sun". While I respect Stockhausen, that made me laugh.
He'll return in glory with a lengthy essay on the defaults of Western civilization and lots of pictures of some Asian nymphette. ;DOh my god, I came across this one day while I was searching for "Turangalila-Symphonie". Did anyone take the time to read all of the text he wrote? I couldn't bring myself to do it -- it was too odd (and extremely difficult to understand, for that matter).
Post by: kishnevi on May 21, 2014, 02:01:46 PM
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,22639.msg798430.html#msg798430
speaking of Discobole, any news about him?
Post by: (: premont :) on May 21, 2014, 02:13:44 PM
speaking of Discobole, any news about him?
It looks as if he left the French forum in anger.
Post by: André on May 21, 2014, 02:27:43 PM
Post by: Marc on May 21, 2014, 02:27:49 PM
[....] IIRC, he had depression and concentration / memory problems. And certainly he was better than his reputation.
[....]
Yes, no memory problems for you here.
JdP sometimes suffered from depressions in a way that he even couldn't enjoy listening to music anymore.
So, his sudden disappearance from GMG in april 2012 was a bit worrying indeed.
OTOH, he got more and more interested in music from the Far East, so maybe he just switched to other music boards to talk about his (new) passions.
Who knows.
Anyway, in the last 2 years, when some new members showed up saying 'nasty' things (I remember a member named The Raven or something), sometimes other GMG members suspected The Return of Evil JdP. I never believed that. As you said, I think he was better (whatever that means) than his reputation.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 21, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
Post by: Ken B on May 21, 2014, 04:47:02 PM
Well, when someone is an ass to you, repeatedly, perhaps the ass is actually better than his behavior; but the crockery is still broken, even if the guy who broke it is better than his reputation.Wow. One crack about Mennin's Eigth and it's grudge-city!
;D
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 21, 2014, 04:56:29 PM
Well, when someone is an ass to you, repeatedly, perhaps the ass is actually better than his behavior; but the crockery is still broken, even if the guy who broke it is better than his reputation.
+1
Interesting how we all tend to miss the same people whom we reported over and over for having pathological character defects. I guess it's like long-term memory loss.... ::)
8)
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 21, 2014, 05:01:20 PM
Well, when someone is an ass to you, repeatedly, perhaps the ass is actually better than his behavior; but the crockery is still broken, even if the guy who broke it is better than his reputation.
+2
Post by: springrite on May 21, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
Well, when someone is an ass to you, repeatedly, perhaps the ass is actually better than his behavior; but the crockery is still broken, even if the guy who broke it is better than his reputation.
As a psychologist I do understand that, of course. But in non-clinical settings, it does not mean I have to take it on the chin. The convenience of the ignore button solved that problem brilliantly.
Post by: Cato on May 21, 2014, 05:07:56 PM
(Sean) will return in glory with a lengthy essay on the defaults of Western civilization and lots of pictures of some Asian nymphette. ;D
Assuming he is not in a Shanghai or Bangkok jail for such activities! ;)
Oh my god, I came across this one day while I was searching for "Turangalila-Symphonie". Did anyone take the time to read all of the text he wrote? I couldn't bring myself to do it -- it was too odd (and extremely difficult to understand, for that matter).
Classic Sean, the master of the triple-tongued somersault of illogical logic and circumcognition! ;) Be Happy that you could not understand it, because if you could, that fact would be evidence against you at the sanity hearing! 0:)
Post by: Marc on May 21, 2014, 10:40:27 PM
+1
Interesting how we all tend to miss the same people whom we reported over and over for having pathological character defects. I guess it's like long-term memory loss.... ::)
8)
I don't miss JdP.
But I do hope he's OK.
I don't miss M Forever, either.
But I do hope he's OK.
I do miss Opus106, though.
And Coopmv.
And I hope that Madaboutmahler hasn't gone mad and that he's OK .... and will return.
:)
Post by: North Star on May 21, 2014, 10:48:16 PM
Has anyone heard from Madaboutmahler (Daniel)? He seems to have done a Discobole and disappeared in the middle of the Brahms 2 comparison.I've heard a little - he's been busy with his final exams, trying to get into OxBridge to study music.
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,22639.msg798430.html#msg798430
speaking of Discobole, any news about him?
Post by: amw on May 21, 2014, 10:55:41 PM
I don't miss JdP.
But I do hope he's OK.
I think JdP was in a very dark place at the time of his posts on GMG and needed psychiatric help. Hopefully he was able to find that and is now a calmer and more reasonable person.
Still though, it's strange how the people like that seem to get the most attention on here, negative or otherwise. It's like we need someone to hate (or have pity for)—it makes us feel better, we need Sean and the like around in order to feel like nicer, more enlightened people by comparison.
Post by: (: premont :) on May 21, 2014, 10:56:10 PM
I do miss Opus106, though.
And Coopmv.
I also do miss Opus 106 .... and Clever Hans and JWinter.
Post by: Que on May 21, 2014, 11:04:59 PM
+1
Interesting how we all tend to miss the same people whom we reported over and over for having pathological character defects. I guess it's like long-term memory loss.... ::)
8)
I suspect the enfants terribles are the more noticeable absentees, not necesarily the most missed. I for one won't miss our pseudo fascist "friend" JdP or one minute. I hope for his sake that one day he will find out that all that hate he cherishes and fosters is eating his humanity and moral and mental sanity.
M forever was quite another case - more of an socially impossible personality than detestable as a person. I hope is doing well.
Every time I see the Mahler mania thread I do wonder if Greta will ever drop by again. I hope so! :) More female members would be nice anyway.
Q
Post by: Marc on May 21, 2014, 11:09:05 PM
[....]
Every time I see the Mahler mania thread I do wonder if Greta will ever drop by again. I hope so! :) More female members would be nice anyway.
$:)
Naughty wishing by the groom.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 22, 2014, 01:03:03 AM
+1
Interesting how we all tend to miss the same people whom we reported over and over for having pathological character defects. I guess it's like long-term memory loss.... ::)
8)
Maybe it's a variant of The Stockholm Syndrome ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 22, 2014, 01:03:53 AM
As a psychologist I do understand that, of course. But in non-clinical settings, it does not mean I have to take it on the chin. The convenience of the ignore button solved that problem brilliantly.
Wisdom.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 22, 2014, 01:05:57 AM
Classic Sean, the master of the triple-tongued somersault of illogical logic and circumcognition! ;) Be Happy that you could not understand it, because if you could, that fact would be evidence against you at the sanity hearing! 0:)
If he had not been so incapable of humorous effect, he had reminded us of Dogberry.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 22, 2014, 03:25:25 AM
If he had not been so incapable of humorous effect, he had reminded us of Dogberry.
Dogbert?
8)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 22, 2014, 03:38:29 AM
Dogbert?
8)
Wicked!
Good morning, O Gurn!
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 22, 2014, 04:14:18 AM
Wicked!
Good morning, O Gurn!
Back at'cha, Dr. H.! :)
8)
Post by: Mirror Image on May 22, 2014, 05:34:44 AM
He's a very busy guy these days. Whether he's playing percussion in a school orchestra, conducting an orchestra that he assembled from a group of a friends, composing, scrambling to finish school work, etc., he's just been super busy. I can understand him not having time for the forum.
Post by: Florestan on May 22, 2014, 05:41:41 AM
our pseudo fascist "friend" JdP
He was not a fascist at all, not by a large stretch.
And this is going to be my last comment on JdP.
Post by: EigenUser on May 22, 2014, 05:52:00 AM
Snyprrr is active and binge posting. :DI never got the impression that snyprrr is a looney-tune poster. His posts make him seem more like he is always with a cup of espresso in one hand while typing. ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 22, 2014, 05:58:34 AM
He was not a fascist at all, not by a large stretch.
And this is going to be my last comment on JdP.
I appreciate your role as The Loyal Opposition here.
Post by: Florestan on May 22, 2014, 06:08:24 AM
I appreciate your role as The Loyal Opposition here.
Thank you, Sir!
My only loyalty is to my own conscience, and it tells me that "fascist" means nothing whatsoever, except "somebody one doesn't agree with"... For the left, I am a Fascist; for the right, I am a Socialist, or downright Communist --- I know it by my own experience. ;D
Post by: Gordo on May 22, 2014, 06:11:10 AM
He was not a fascist at all, not by a large stretch.
Besides "fascist" has become a very vague word, as historically communists used it to refer their enemies in general.
Post by: Florestan on May 22, 2014, 06:13:23 AM
Besides "fascist" has become a very vague word, as historically communists used it to refer their enemies in general.
Exactly. You as a Chilean are in a better position than others to judge. ;D
Post by: Gordo on May 22, 2014, 06:22:31 AM
Exactly. You as a Chilean are in a better position than others to judge. ;D
Absolutely! ;D
Here Pinochet's supporters were called "fachos" from the Italian "fascio" (approximately same pronunciation in both languages).
Post by: Florestan on May 22, 2014, 06:35:19 AM
Absolutely! ;D
Here Pinochet's supporters were called "fachos" from the Italian "fascio" (approximately same pronunciation in both languages).
Well, here is the Italian National Fascist Party program.
Politically, the Manifesto calls for:
Universal suffrage with a lowered voting age to 18 years, and voting and electoral office eligibility for all age 25 and up;
Proportional representation on a regional basis;
Voting for women (which was opposed by most other European nations);
Representation at government level of newly created national councils by economic sector;
The abolition of the Italian Senate (at the time, the Senate, as the upper house of parliament, was by process elected by the wealthier citizens, but were in reality direct appointments by the king. It has been described as a sort of extended council of the crown);
The formation of a national council of experts for labor, for industry, for transportation, for the public health, for communications, etc. Selections to be made of professionals or of tradesmen with legislative powers, and elected directly to a general commission with ministerial powers.
In labor and social policy, the Manifesto calls for:
The quick enactment of a law of the state that sanctions an eight-hour workday for all workers;
A minimum wage;
The participation of workers' representatives in the functions of industry commissions;
To show the same confidence in the labor unions (that prove to be technically and morally worthy) as is given to industry executives or public servants;
Reorganization of the railways and the transport sector;
Revision of the draft law on invalidity insurance;
Reduction of the retirement age from 65 to 55.
In military affairs, the Manifesto advocates:
Creation of a short-service national militia with specifically defensive responsibilities;
Armaments factories are to be nationalized;
A peaceful but competitive foreign policy.
In finance, the Manifesto advocates:
A strong progressive tax on capital (envisaging a “partial expropriation” of concentrated wealth);
The seizure of all the possessions of the religious congregations and the abolition of all the bishoprics, which constitute an enormous liability on the Nation and on the privileges of the poor;
Revision of all contracts for military provisions;
The revision of all military contracts and the seizure of 85 percent of the profits therein.
Let any leftist come to the front and say "I oppose it!" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Gordo on May 22, 2014, 06:48:14 AM
Let any leftist come to the front and say "I oppose it!" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yes, these poor guys were misunderstood. :P
This remember me some words by Chesterton:
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This is the arresting and dominant fact about modern social discussion; that the quarrel is not merely about the difficulties, but about the aim. We agree about the evil; it is about the good that we should tear each other's eyes out. We all admit that a lazy aristocracy is a bad thing. We should not by any means all admit that an active aristocracy would be a good thing. We all feel angry with an irreligious priesthood; but some of us would go mad with disgust at a really religious one. Everyone is indignant if our army is weak, including the people who would be even more indignant if it were strong. The social case is exactly the opposite of the medical case. We do not disagree, like doctors, about the precise nature of the illness, while agreeing about the nature of health. On the contrary, we all agree that England is unhealthy, but half of us would not look at her in what the other half would call blooming health. Public abuses are so prominent and pestilent that they sweep all generous people into a sort of fictitious unanimity. We forget that, while we agree about the abuses of things, we should differ very much about the uses of them. Mr. Cadbury and I would agree about the bad public house. It would be precisely in front of the good public-house that our painful personal fracas would occur.
:)
Post by: Florestan on May 22, 2014, 07:34:24 AM
Yes, these poor guys were misunderstood. :P
Oh, not at all. ;D The Swedish Social-Democratic Party followed not the Italian Fascists, who never advocated eugenics, but the National-Socialist Party of the German Workers, which did! ;D ;D ;D
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Chesterton
A beacon of (Catholic) Fascism. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Gordo on May 22, 2014, 08:40:31 AM
A beacon of (Catholic) Fascism. ;D ;D ;D
:D
Yes, a beacon, but more a skeptic preacher, a sort of intellectual stand-up comedian. A preacher of the common sense.
Today, after a long process and almost against his status as a Catholic writer, I'm convinced he is the greatest essayist I have ever read and with Jorge Luis Borges and Franz Kafka, one my favorite writers from the XX Century.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 22, 2014, 08:43:37 AM
Post by: OrchestralNut on May 22, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
I never got the impression that snyprrr is a looney-tune poster. His posts make him seem more like he is always with a cup of espresso in one hand while typing. ;)
:D Well, I challenge you to read back some of Snypp's post in recent years. You may arrive at a different conclusion. ;D
There have been days (or late nights) where you can see a string of 20 + consecutive posts in as many topics, and sometimes you think he's the only one on the forum, having a conversation with himself. :laugh:
Nevertheless, I like the dude, especially because he is a 'chamber music nut' like me. :)
Post by: North Star on May 22, 2014, 10:26:03 AM
:D Well, I challenge you to read back some of Snypp's post in recent years. You may arrive at a different conclusion. ;DHear, hear!
There have been days (or late nights) where you can see a string of 20 + consecutive posts in as many topics, and sometimes you think he's the only one on the forum, having a conversation with himself. :laugh:
Nevertheless, I like the dude, especially because he is a 'chamber music nut' like me. :)
BTW, did you watch the game, Ray? 8)
Post by: OrchestralNut on May 22, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
Hear, hear!
BTW, did you watch the game, Ray? 8)
Which game, Karlo?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 22, 2014, 10:34:40 AM
Which game, Karlo?
Must have been the Rangers kicking the Habs butts. That must have hurt with those skates on. :D
8)
Post by: North Star on May 22, 2014, 10:45:32 AM
Which game, Karlo?Ice Hockey.. Canada - Finland in World Championship games in Minsk. Obviously they're not that big an attraction in an Olympic year, with many of the NHL stars absent.
Post by: Florestan on May 22, 2014, 11:36:27 AM
A preacher of the common sense.
Poor common sense! it was a fascist eastward of Iron Curtain, and a communist westward of it. ;D
Aligning oneself with the left, as with the right, is only one of the numberless ways open to man of being an imbecile: both are forms of moral hemiplegia. --- Jose Ortega y Gasset
I am neither a rightist, nor a leftist --- I am a smart man. --- Henry de Montherlant
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Today, after a long process and almost against his status as a Catholic writer, I'm convinced he is the greatest essayist I have ever read and with Jorge Luis Borges and Franz Kafka, one my favorite writers from the XX Century.
Why against? Is a Catholic barred ipso facto from knowing and expressing the truth? I won't deny this right even to a Lutheran like Kierkegaard, or to an atheist like Schopenhauer --- so much less to a Catholic like Chesterton... ;D
Kafka --- yes, he is the one and only prophet of the brave new world we are living live in. ;D ;D ;D
(quoted from memory)
"Such a law, I am not aware of!", said Josef.
"You see, my friend, he isn't even aware of the existing laws, yet he pretends to be innocent!", said the police inspector to his colleague.
I ask you, my GMG fellows --- are you aware of all the laws enforceable in your country? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: OrchestralNut on May 22, 2014, 11:38:37 AM
Ice Hockey.. Canada - Finland in World Championship games in Minsk. Obviously they're not that big an attraction in an Olympic year, with many of the NHL stars absent.
No, I didn't watch it. For whatever the reason, I usually don't follow the World Championships. :-[
Post by: North Star on May 22, 2014, 12:11:55 PM
No, I didn't watch it. For whatever the reason, I usually don't follow the World Championships. :-[Yeah, I gather they're not of much interest in North America. In any case, Finland won, dropping Canada from the semifinals :laugh:
It's certainly not what I expected would happen, as Finland only barely made it into the top 8, losing to Latvia, Russia & USA, barely winning the Kazakhstan match 3-4, and winning Switzerland in the penalty shots. ::)
It would be cool to win silver, making a straight flush together with the Olympic bronze & Jr. gold. 8)
I guess this isn't too OT yet, since quite a few hockey players miss at least some teeth..
Post by: OrchestralNut on May 22, 2014, 12:25:33 PM
Yeah, I gather they're not of much interest in North America. In any case, Finland won, dropping Canada from the semifinals :laugh:
It's certainly not what I expected would happen, as Finland only barely made it into the top 8, losing to Latvia, Russia & USA, barely winning the Kazakhstan match 3-4, and winning Switzerland in the penalty shots. ::)
It would be cool to win silver, making a straight flush together with the Olympic bronze & Jr. gold. 8)
I guess this isn't too OT yet, since quite a few hockey players miss at least some teeth..
:D Well, I wish Finland the best of luck on the silver. I always cheer for Finland (except against Canada) ;D
Post by: North Star on May 22, 2014, 12:44:44 PM
:D Well, I wish Finland the best of luck on the silver. I always cheer for Finland (except against Canada) ;DCheers, here's hoping.. (I wouldn't be disappointed if they won gold, either, though 8) not that I really care enough to could have been disappointed even if they hadn't made it to the top 8 )
Post by: OrchestralNut on May 22, 2014, 12:46:39 PM
Cheers, here's hoping.. (I wouldn't be disappointed if they won gold, either, though 8) not that I really care enough to could have been disappointed even if they hadn't made it to the top 8 )
Oh, I misread! If they still play for Gold, then go for the Gold!! :)
Post by: North Star on May 22, 2014, 12:55:10 PM
Post by: Gordo on May 22, 2014, 02:06:14 PM
Why against? Is a Catholic barred ipso facto from knowing and expressing the truth? I won't deny this right even to a Lutheran like Kierkegaard, or to an atheist like Schopenhauer --- so much less to a Catholic like Chesterton... ;D
This off-topic has gone a bit too far, so my apologies to the community. :)
It's simple: I think secular affairs should be always discussed in non-religious terms.
A discussion about beliefs is always a failed discussion because, generally speaking, when you are in front of a true belief usually just one road is possible: respect.
I mean only it's possible to debate about ideas, not about beliefs and all of religious "ideas" are truly beliefs, not authentic ideas.
As Ortega y Gasset said: while we have (own) ideas; we are (upon) our beliefs.
Post by: springrite on May 22, 2014, 04:05:16 PM
:D Well, I wish Finland the best of luck on the silver. I always cheer for Finland (except against Canada) ;D
Me, too. But it won't be the same without Teemu. When will they produce the next Teemu?
Post by: EigenUser on May 22, 2014, 04:35:48 PM
:D Well, I challenge you to read back some of Snypp's post in recent years. You may arrive at a different conclusion. ;DI like him too. Anyone who describes the Luto cello concerto as "farty" and listens to it in his car (see Luto thread) has got to be a cool person!
There have been days (or late nights) where you can see a string of 20 + consecutive posts in as many topics, and sometimes you think he's the only one on the forum, having a conversation with himself. :laugh:
Nevertheless, I like the dude, especially because he is a 'chamber music nut' like me. :)
Post by: Que on May 22, 2014, 05:46:25 PM
$:)
Naughty wishing by the groom.
Let's say I value the presence of the female touch. 0:)
Q
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 23, 2014, 01:11:28 AM
(Just saying.)
Post by: TheGSMoeller on May 23, 2014, 01:13:14 AM
I am not missing!
(Just saying.)
I found Karl!
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 23, 2014, 01:14:09 AM
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2014, 05:41:26 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 23, 2014, 05:50:22 AM
Post by: Cato on May 23, 2014, 07:41:39 AM
I found Karl!
Thank heavens!
Nearly 6 months since the last log-in by Elgarian.
I should give him a jingle this weekend; I am sure I have spoken with him within that apparently looong interval :)
Yes, let's hope nothing is wrong! 0:)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 23, 2014, 07:42:44 AM
Post by: Cato on May 23, 2014, 08:45:25 AM
Hoy, Cato!
Ahoy, Cap'n! ;) 8)
Ye ought t' be havin' a look-see in yer other mailbox! 0:)
Post by: Cato on May 24, 2014, 12:03:45 PM
He has not been around since before Christmas. Anybody know why?
Post by: OrchestralNut on May 24, 2014, 12:22:42 PM
I noticed that "Kyjo" started the Favorite Bruckner Symphony topic.
He has not been around since before Christmas. Anybody know why?
Don't know, Cato. I miss the guy, even though he poo-pood on Richard Strauss' music frequently. :D
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 24, 2014, 12:30:30 PM
I noticed that "Kyjo" started the Favorite Bruckner Symphony topic.
He has not been around since before Christmas. Anybody know why?
He couldn't take the heat. He had strong opinions that created strong counter-opinions. He left when he found a more congenial forum, one more in tune with his beliefs about music. I'm not happy he left. He created many interesting threads; introduced me to music I'd not known about.
Sarge
Post by: TheGSMoeller on May 24, 2014, 12:40:33 PM
He couldn't take the heat. He had strong opinions that created strong counter-opinions. He left when he found a more congenial forum, one more in tune with his beliefs about music. I'm not happy he left. He created many interesting threads; introduced me to music I'd not known about.
Sarge
Like his thoughts or not he created discussion, which is key for a forum. We need more polls, bring him back! And if he's a Bruckner fan he should join the Bruckner 6 BC.
Post by: amw on May 24, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
He couldn't take the heat. He had strong opinions that created strong counter-opinions. He left when he found a more congenial forum, one more in tune with his beliefs about music.
He's also disappeared from that forum though. I think his absence has more to do with being busy in real life, and he's likely to return eventually.
Post by: Pat B on May 25, 2014, 08:23:45 PM
He couldn't take the heat. He had strong opinions that created strong counter-opinions. He left when he found a more congenial forum, one more in tune with his beliefs about music. I'm not happy he left. He created many interesting threads; introduced me to music I'd not known about.
I had the distinct impression of someone who likes to talk and does not like to listen.
Post by: Mirror Image on May 26, 2014, 05:48:53 AM
I had the distinct impression of someone who likes to talk and does not like to listen.
+1
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 27, 2014, 05:30:01 AM
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on May 27, 2014, 08:41:45 AM
I do miss Opus106, though.
And Coopmv.
Coopmv is probably listening to disc no. 253 from his extensive Vivaldi collection. Maybe someday he'll come back.
Post by: Henk on May 29, 2014, 02:48:34 AM
Why would she have left? Busy with study / work? Annoyed? Ill?
Henk
Post by: Henk on May 29, 2014, 02:50:51 AM
I don't miss JdP.
But I do hope he's OK.
I don't miss M Forever, either.
But I do hope he's OK.
I do miss Opus106, though.
And Coopmv.
And I hope that Madaboutmahler hasn't gone mad and that he's OK .... and will return.
:)
I don't miss Coopmv. I think Madaboutmahler is still present.
Post by: 71 dB on May 29, 2014, 03:48:47 AM
Nearly 6 months since the last log-in by Elgarian.
Yeah. I miss his superb Elgar posts. :-\
Post by: NorthNYMark on May 29, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
Coopmv is probably listening to disc no. 253 from his extensive Vivaldi collection. Maybe someday he'll come back.
He posts very regularly in the "Classical Corner" thread on the Steve Hoffman forum. My guess is that he likes having just one single thread for all classical discussion.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 02, 2014, 10:33:55 AM
He posts very regularly in the "Classical Corner" thread on the Steve Hoffman forum. My guess is that he likes having just one single thread for all classical discussion.
I went and checked that out, I had never heard of it before. One thread for all classical discussion is hard to like, for me anyway. Reminds me of the old days on rec.classical, if you took a nap you were ten pages behind! ???
8)
Post by: Moonfish on June 02, 2014, 11:50:51 AM
I went and checked that out, I had never heard of it before. One thread for all classical discussion is hard to like, for me anyway. Reminds me of the old days on rec.classical, if you took a nap you were ten pages behind! ???
8)
Yes, I agree completely. I like how you at GMG are running different topics in an organized fashion. Besides, it obviously becomes a great resource over time. The drawback is if one is a compulsive buyer of music.... ???
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 02, 2014, 11:56:42 AM
Yes, I agree completely. I like how you at GMG are running different topics in an organized fashion. Besides, it obviously becomes a great resource over time. The drawback is if one is a compulsive buyer of music.... ???
Thanks. Many of the originals here came from a forum called CMG, and there they are all in one thread too, or at least all of the threads are in one big room. If you post in an obscure thread, like Dave's Fux thread, then come back tomorrow to check replies, it might be already on the next page! So Rob broke it down into rooms, it has been like this since the beginning. Surprisingly a lot of people hated the concept and left because of it, but I think a lot of people stayed because of it too. We used to be anal about posting in 'the right room', but now, not so much. Close is good. :)
8)
Post by: Ken B on June 02, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
Yes, I agree completely. I like how you at GMG are running different topics in an organized fashion. Besides, it obviously becomes a great resource over time. The drawback is if one is a compulsive buyer of music.... ???It's frickin' dangerous. I watch you and Bak and Ubu and it starts to seem normal that I can't see the other side of the room for discs and boxes. BTW, have you seen that new 100 Symphony box on Amazon yet .....
Post by: North Star on June 02, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
Yes, I agree completely. I like how you at GMG are running different topics in an organized fashion. Besides, it obviously becomes a great resource over time. The drawback is if one is a compulsive buyer of music.... ???I'd say it's a rather great resource already. :)
Separating different topics is essential, both for following the discussions as they take place and for when one searches for information later. Rooms is another thing that is a huge benefit. Moderation is of course needed sometimes, but very little need for it here, especially these days. Perhaps the moderators should start moderating the big box purchases.. 8)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 02, 2014, 12:01:58 PM
It's frickin' dangerous.
My collection exploded shortly after joining this forum...and my bank balance imploded...but hey, it's only money ;)
Sarge
Post by: Moonfish on June 02, 2014, 12:04:28 PM
I'd say it's a rather great resource already. :)
Separating different topics is essential, both for following the discussions as they take place and for when one searches for information later. Rooms is another thing that is a huge benefit. Moderation is of course needed sometimes, but very little need for it here, especially these days. Perhaps the moderators should start moderating the big box purchases.. 8)
Well, I did mean that it is a resource (yes, right now) and it will be even better ten years from now (just like a good wine)!
I think all posts from Finland should be moderated! >:D
Post by: Moonfish on June 02, 2014, 12:05:27 PM
My collection exploded shortly after joining this forum...and my bank balance imploded...but hey, it's only money ;)
Sarge
Yes. I am thinking about making no purchases this month! *gulp* >:( :( :( :( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: Moonfish on June 02, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
It's frickin' dangerous. I watch you and Bak and Ubu and it starts to seem normal that I can't see the other side of the room for discs and boxes. BTW, have you seen that new 100 Symphony box on Amazon yet .....
Hmm, yes, I am considering a new shelf to remove the piles from the floor. It is getting difficult to vacuum! And, yes, I have seen it but it somehow does not pull me in. Now, historical recordings is a very different matter (thanks for that timely trigger King Ubu! ???). Maybe we should move to the cdcdcd thread? $:)
Post by: Ken B on June 02, 2014, 12:10:16 PM
Yes. I am thinking about making no purchases this month! *gulp* >:( :( :( :( :'( :'( :'(:'( I was hoping for Moonfish Proxy Month, where you buy things and I just enjoy it vicariously. All that lovely Graupner, all those bork-bork-borking Swedes ....
Post by: North Star on June 02, 2014, 12:13:34 PM
Well, I did mean that it is a resource (yes, right now) and it will be even better ten years from now (just like a good wine)!Sure.
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I think all posts from Finland should be moderated! >:DAt least when Elgar (or Wagner..) is mentioned unnecessarily. 8)
Post by: Ken B on June 02, 2014, 12:16:03 PM
Sure.You can always safely substitute "Brahms and water" for that.
At least when Elgar is mentioned unnecessarily. 8)
>:D :laugh:
Post by: Moonfish on June 02, 2014, 01:17:37 PM
You can always safely substitute "Brahms and water" for that.
>:D :laugh:
Is that with or without lemon?
Post by: Moonfish on June 02, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
:'( I was hoping for Moonfish Proxy Month, where you buy things and I just enjoy it vicariously. All that lovely Graupner, all those bork-bork-borking Swedes ....
Now when I think about it you kind of remind me of Kermit.... ;)
Post by: Cato on July 08, 2014, 04:18:42 AM
Assorted trips, traps, and even tropes have been endured, and I believe I will have some time to visit GMG again!
And so, I need to grumble over at Cato's Grammar Grumble right now! 0:)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 08, 2014, 04:21:10 AM
Post by: Cato on July 08, 2014, 04:54:56 AM
Huzzah for our Cato!
I have not been huzzahed for some time! Feels good! 0:)
Post by: OrchestralNut on July 08, 2014, 04:56:21 AM
I have not been huzzahed for some time! Feels good! 0:)
A Cato sighting!! Welcome back, lad! :)
Post by: Henk on July 08, 2014, 06:39:02 AM
Post by: North Star on July 08, 2014, 07:32:12 AM
MI?In the Diner.
Post by: Szykneij on July 08, 2014, 06:15:40 PM
MI?
... a name, I call myself?
Post by: kishnevi on July 08, 2014, 06:30:20 PM
In the Diner.
He did pop into the main listening thread to report an outbreak of Barber, so there's hope for him yet. >:D
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 09, 2014, 03:43:18 AM
Post by: North Star on July 09, 2014, 07:09:15 AM
I once had an outbreak like that, but mild enough a case that I did not need to resort to antibiotics . . . .Judging by your avatar the Barber was very mild indeed, Karl! 8)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 09, 2014, 07:54:15 AM
Post by: Ken B on July 09, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
On the phone with my brother earlier, he joked (on another topic entirely) with the noun razor. "What's that?" I asked.I have a beard too but shave part of my neck. My electric is dying, and is awkward with a beard anyhoo, so I bought a good quality safety razor last week.
Post by: Henk on July 10, 2014, 05:16:25 AM
You wish.
Wishing he left? No, I have always appreciated him. I want him to be back, but is he already really missing? Maybe he just takes a little pause?
Post by: OrchestralNut on July 10, 2014, 05:50:22 AM
Wishing he left? No, I have always appreciated him. I want him to be back, but is he already really missing? Maybe he just takes a little pause?
No Henk, John (MI) is still around. He is in the diner (headphones and non-classical music threads) :)
Post by: Henk on July 10, 2014, 05:55:44 AM
No Henk, John (MI) is still around. He is in the diner (headphones and non-classical music threads) :)
Yes, I noticed. Now only when he will join the "What are you listening thread" we can welcome him there also, because as another member wrote, has join turn his back towards classical music??
Post by: OrchestralNut on July 10, 2014, 06:13:09 AM
Yes, I noticed. Now only when he will join the "What are you listening thread" we can welcome him there also, because as another member wrote, has join turn his back towards classical music??
Don't think he has turned his back on classical music, at least not permanently. I hope. ;D
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:25:39 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 22, 2014, 09:35:19 AM
Anyone seen Knight? Can't remember his real name..
Which of them? Gold Knight or Knight66?
Gold Knight has gone to greener pastures, he hasn't logged on since September last. Knight 66 and I had conversation just this morning. :)
8)
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
Which of them? Gold Knight or Knight66?
Gold Knight has gone to greener pastures, he hasn't logged on since September last. Knight 66 and I had conversation just this morning. :)
8)
Knight66, the moderator. I remember Gold Knight only slightly, would be nice to have him back as well.
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2014, 10:03:58 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 22, 2014, 11:15:40 AM
Knight66, the moderator. I remember Gold Knight only slightly, would be nice to have him back as well.
Knight66 is always around, although he travels a lot. He's just quiet, not gone. :)
Maciej? Also a moderator.
He took a graduate degree from university and is now planning on taking a degree in musicology. Splendid thng for him, but with young family, too busy to spend much time here now. :-\
8)
Post by: Ken B on July 22, 2014, 11:59:08 AM
Knight66 is always around, although he travels a lot. He's just quiet, not gone. :)Maybe the parrot is just resting.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on July 22, 2014, 02:00:20 PM
Maybe the parrot is just resting.
Odd bird, the Norwegian Blue... :)
8)
Post by: OrchestralNut on July 25, 2014, 05:35:40 AM
Gold Knight has gone to greener pastures, he hasn't logged on since September last.
8)
I miss Gold Knight and his listening posts (conducted under the baton of "insert composer name"). :)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on August 01, 2014, 07:02:23 AM
Sarge
Post by: kishnevi on August 01, 2014, 07:59:18 AM
sanantonio has gone missing.
Sarge
Been gone for a while. He did go off for an extended period once before, so I assume this is a similar situation.
I do particularly miss his posts to the 20th/21st century threads.
Post by: EigenUser on August 01, 2014, 09:14:41 AM
Been gone for a while. He did go off for an extended period once before, so I assume this is a similar situation.What a coincidence! I'm listening to Ohana's Cello Concerto "In Dark and Blue" right now, which I discovered thanks to a post by sanantonio.
I do particularly miss his posts to the 20th/21st century threads.
Post by: mn dave on August 27, 2014, 09:40:23 AM
Post by: The new erato on August 27, 2014, 09:42:38 AM
Post by: mn dave on August 27, 2014, 09:45:40 AM
Johnny Winter is no more.
You're a bit confused, old man. :D
Post by: Henk on August 27, 2014, 09:48:44 AM
Post by: The new erato on August 27, 2014, 09:49:48 AM
You're a bit confused, old man. :DConfusion is my middle name. :-\
Post by: Ken B on August 27, 2014, 11:21:45 AM
Confusion is my middle name. :-\Huh? I thought "New" was your middle name?
Post by: The new erato on August 27, 2014, 12:05:00 PM
Huh? I thought "New" was your middle name?You see? You are confused already.
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on August 27, 2014, 01:04:04 PM
Post by: North Star on August 30, 2014, 03:56:20 AM
Post by: OrchestralNut on August 30, 2014, 04:56:05 AM
Daniel (aka madaboutmahler) asked to tell he'll be visiting the forum shortly.
Thumbs up! :)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 30, 2014, 06:55:27 AM
Post by: TheGSMoeller on August 30, 2014, 07:08:52 AM
I'm sure he still likes Mahler! 8)
Likesmahleralot? Nah, doesn't have the edge that Madaboutmahler has. 8)
And it will be nice to have that extra Strauss enthusiasm into the forum!
Post by: North Star on August 30, 2014, 07:20:31 AM
I'm sure he still likes Mahler! 8)Indeed, and has heard nos. 2 (with Harding) and no. 9 (Runnicles) live in the Proms this year.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on August 30, 2014, 07:38:45 AM
Indeed, and has heard nos. 2 (with Harding) and no. 9 (Runnicles) live in the Proms this year.
Ooo, I would love to watch Runnicles conduct anything, the three times I've seen him have been electrifying concerts.
Post by: Brian on September 12, 2014, 06:47:11 PM
Post by: Que on September 13, 2014, 12:04:35 AM
Octave
Indeed.... :(
His absence occurred to me too a while ago. Hope he returns soon.
Q
Post by: edith1 on September 16, 2014, 06:18:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a98uNYeRtj4
Post by: The new erato on September 16, 2014, 09:46:34 AM
OctaveA real, real pity.
Post by: kishnevi on September 18, 2014, 12:19:57 PM
Post by: EigenUser on September 18, 2014, 03:52:34 PM
ZD7 has not checked in since 9/9.I noticed this earlier today, too. I like(d) him! (Hopefully the past tense isn't necessary and he'll come back.) Another Messiaen fan. And I still do need to try making those tofu burgers!
Post by: Ken B on September 18, 2014, 04:00:16 PM
Post by: EigenUser on September 18, 2014, 04:45:36 PM
Zauberdrachen7 is alive and not quite well. He has had a painful ear infection. He will return, he says hi.Oh, that's a shame. Feel better! Ear infections are probably the most painful things I have ever experienced, at least as far as a minor illness is concerned.
Post by: kishnevi on September 18, 2014, 05:04:11 PM
Oh, that's a shame. Feel better! Ear infections are probably the most painful things I have ever experienced, at least as far as a minor illness is concerned.And terribly inconvenient for musical purposes....hope he gets better quickly!
Post by: Ken B on September 18, 2014, 06:12:02 PM
Oh, that's a shame. Feel better! Ear infections are probably the most painful things I have ever experienced, at least as far as a minor illness is concerned.Unpleasant. His exact words were "it all sounds like Stockhausen".
Post by: North Star on September 18, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Unpleasant. His exact words were "it all sounds like Stockhausen".A terrible fate indeed. I hope he gets well soon.
Post by: EigenUser on September 19, 2014, 12:10:59 AM
Unpleasant. His exact words were "it all sounds like Stockhausen".:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 19, 2014, 02:56:05 AM
Unpleasant. His exact words were "it all sounds like Stockhausen".
And this is The Night Gallery.
Post by: listener on September 19, 2014, 07:05:28 PM
Unpleasant. His exact words were "it all sounds like Stockhausen".
Does the corollary hold? (viz. Stockhausen sounds like an ear infection.)
Post by: Ken B on September 19, 2014, 07:11:52 PM
"...Ear infections are probably the most painful things I have ever experienced, at least as far as a minor illness is concerned...Stockhausen is an ear infection.
Unpleasant. His exact words were "it all sounds like Stockhausen".
Does the corollary hold? (viz. Stockhausen sounds like an ear infection.)
:laugh:
Post by: Mirror Image on September 19, 2014, 07:51:25 PM
Stockhausen is an ear infection.
:laugh:
:P
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 21, 2014, 04:12:05 AM
Indeed, and has heard nos. 2 (with Harding) and no. 9 (Runnicles) live in the Proms this year.
And Gewandhaus/Gilbert for 3!
I am back! Thank you all for the comments, glad to know I was missed ;)
My attendance here may be quite sporadic (life has never been this busy - music mixed with uni applications and so forth!) but I have missed the forum so intend to contribute when I can!
Post by: Lisztianwagner on September 21, 2014, 05:41:55 AM
Post by: Mirror Image on September 21, 2014, 05:44:57 AM
And Gewandhaus/Gilbert for 3!
I am back! Thank you all for the comments, glad to know I was missed ;)
My attendance here may be quite sporadic (life has never been this busy - music mixed with uni applications and so forth!) but I have missed the forum so intend to contribute when I can!
Ahoy! The prodigal son returns! 8)
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 21, 2014, 06:27:34 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on September 21, 2014, 06:38:07 AM
Sarge
Post by: kishnevi on September 21, 2014, 06:56:08 AM
Two of the missing return! It's a good day in forum land 8)+1
Sarge
Post by: OrchestralNut on September 21, 2014, 06:57:47 AM
Post by: madaboutmahler on September 21, 2014, 07:53:06 AM
Post by: Mirror Image on September 21, 2014, 09:46:35 AM
Gentlemen, I've returned from the Isle of the Deaf (yes, it's the same place). I've had ear infects before but nothing like this. I admit it was frightening - tough to be John Wayne of the Ears. Thought it was a cholesteatoma at first in one ear. But thankfully not. I learned lots - among which: 1.) Z-Pak = Zero pack (for me, at least); 2.) my ENT told me that ears are - second only to the rectum - the most unclean part of the human body. No, he wasn't referring to mine, but everyone's generally. (Blame Stockhausen, almost everyone does); 3.) Living w/o music is very hard and very sad :( ; and 4.) I missed you guys - thanks :-* for the sense of community here.
Welcome back, Zauber! Good to hear your enjoying music once again.
Post by: Moonfish on September 21, 2014, 09:49:38 AM
Gentlemen, I've returned from the Isle of the Deaf (yes, it's the same place). I've had ear infects before but nothing like this. I admit it was frightening - tough to be John Wayne of the Ears. Thought it was a cholesteatoma at first in one ear. But thankfully not. I learned lots - among which: 1.) Z-Pak = Zero pack (for me, at least); 2.) my ENT told me that ears are - second only to the rectum - the most unclean part of the human body. No, he wasn't referring to mine, but everyone's generally. (Blame Stockhausen, almost everyone does); 3.) Living w/o music is very hard and very sad :( ; and 4.) I missed you guys - thanks :-* for the sense of community here.
Ouch! I am not sure if I could handle not being able to listen to music. Glad things got resolved for you Zauberdrachen! Are you celebrating with a listening marathon? :D
Post by: Cato on September 21, 2014, 10:02:10 AM
Gentlemen, I've returned from the Isle of the Deaf (yes, it's the same place). I've had ear infects before but nothing like this. I admit it was frightening - tough to be John Wayne of the Ears. Thought it was a cholesteatoma at first in one ear. But thankfully not. I learned lots - among which: 1.) Z-Pak = Zero pack (for me, at least); 2.) my ENT told me that ears are - second only to the rectum - the most unclean part of the human body. No, he wasn't referring to mine, but everyone's generally. (Blame Stockhausen, almost everyone does); 3.) Living w/o music is very hard and very sad :( ; and 4.) I missed you guys - thanks :-* for the sense of community here.
DUDE! I can sympathize!
Since early August I have had an off-and-on tinnitus in the left ear, a low bass (and LOUD) Bb ! Antibiotics chased it away for a while, but it returned! Stronger antibiotics chased it away a second time, but it returned. Finally, a ten-day regimen of Prednisone (a steroid) seems to have worked.
Yes, one fears a permanent condition: some people have a debilitating tinnitus for years and years: very depressing! My hearing in the left ear was considerably weakened by the volume of the tinnitus (pronounced tin'-ni-toos in Latin, incorrectly pronounced ti-NITE-iss by our unenlightened types). I recall being in the hallway and not understanding much of anything spoken loudly by several people.
Right now, everything is great!
We need more magic dragons here! 8) So stay with us!
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 21, 2014, 10:34:54 AM
Ouch! I am not sure if I could handle not being able to listen to music. Glad things got resolved for you Zauberdrachen! Are you celebrating with a listening marathon? :D
Yes, thanks, it's been non-stop listening since I've improved. Craved certain things : Saint-Saëns' 3rd VC, Berlioz's Nuits among 'em and curiously an old Zombies song "Whenever You're Ready" (always liked their harmonies). Have to go for a hearing test next week but think I'm ok.
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 21, 2014, 10:49:36 AM
DUDE! I can sympathize!
Right now, everything is great!
We need more magic dragons here! 8) So stay with us!
Thanks, Cato, sure hope it stays that way!! Best to see a specialist - ENT - if it reappears; it pays to id the cause, if possible (sinus trouble, eardrum configuration, too forceful nose-blowing can force fluids up against it, etc) yes, I hit the books! Hearing's too precious a gift to take for granted. Don't forget ear protection when mowing, using the blender, power tools, and always good to take a decongestant before boarding planes if you've had in-flight agonies. The latter have cost me more hearing than anything else.
Post by: Brian on September 21, 2014, 10:51:01 AM
I can relate to your story about ears being the second-most unclean part of my body. For the first 19 years of life, I (and my parents, initially) cleaned them the worst way you can, Q-Tips, which just pushes stuff back farther into the ear. There was eventually so much gunk that one night with a "whumf" noise my left ear became completely deaf. Hearing returned in it an hour or so later, but I went to the clinic and got a professional cleaning. It's one of those things nobody really thinks about.
Post by: Moonfish on September 21, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
Welcome back party!!
I can relate to your story about ears being the second-most unclean part of my body. For the first 19 years of life, I (and my parents, initially) cleaned them the worst way you can, Q-Tips, which just pushes stuff back farther into the ear. There was eventually so much gunk that one night with a "whumf" noise my left ear became completely deaf. Hearing returned in it an hour or so later, but I went to the clinic and got a professional cleaning. It's one of those things nobody really thinks about.
Hm, I wonder about the state of human ears during the middle ages.....
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 21, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
Hm, I wonder about the state of human ears during the middle ages.....
What?
Post by: Moonfish on September 21, 2014, 04:05:13 PM
What?
Brian got a professional cleaning. I wonder how people took care of these issues in the past...
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 21, 2014, 04:34:20 PM
Brian got a professional cleaning. I wonder how people took care of these issues in the past...
Sorry, that was supposed to be funny!!
Q-tips = bad, when used for jousting in the ear canal. Ears are supposed to be self-cleaning, but people differ in their production of earwax which, though designed to be anti-bacterial, anti-insect and vital lubricant, can be the source of trouble in itself.
Post by: Moonfish on September 21, 2014, 04:41:03 PM
(https://lh3.ggpht.com/-GMAfxQMIVyA/TspZ8RnEZWI/AAAAAAAAAUc/2Hij7IHo5h4/s1600/cats_hear-color.gif)
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 21, 2014, 05:44:06 PM
.
(https://lh3.ggpht.com/-GMAfxQMIVyA/TspZ8RnEZWI/AAAAAAAAAUc/2Hij7IHo5h4/s1600/cats_hear-color.gif)
:D Larson also did a dog version of that cartoon. In it 'Ginger' is being scolded by its master, but the dog at least hears its name : "Ginger...blah,blah, blah, Ginger, blah, blah..."
Post by: André on September 22, 2014, 04:46:17 AM
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 22, 2014, 04:58:40 AM
Welcome back to health Zauber ! :-* I can empathize. I have always had a lower level of hearing from the right ear -esp. noticeable when switching the telephone from one ear to another. But never have I feared becoming really impaired. Must be quite frightening. :o
Thanks, André - I admit to being scared. Had 'em before but these hurt the worst and my first rounds of antibiotics did not touch 'em. The time o' year for them was peculiar as well and a first. We should prob. have an ear care thread on GMG.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 22, 2014, 05:03:57 AM
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on September 22, 2014, 07:24:12 AM
Good to have you back!
Thanks, Karl, happy to be!
Post by: Ken B on September 22, 2014, 07:54:19 AM
Thanks, Karl, happy to be!That's three lost lambs returned:Mad, Z, Mirror Image.
>:D
Post by: Mirror Image on September 22, 2014, 01:12:05 PM
That's three lost lambs returned:Mad, Z, Mirror Image.
>:D
:P
Post by: Mirror Image on September 22, 2014, 06:03:16 PM
Post by: Ken B on December 03, 2014, 06:00:30 PM
I see his avatar in use but I got a pm
Ken, I am being held hostage. Send honey, walnuts, and philo pastry.
Post by: EigenUser on December 04, 2014, 01:20:18 AM
Baklavaboy.He's been talking about dieting recently, so I figured that he just changed his name to something else.
I see his avatar in use but I got a pm
Ken, I am being held hostage. Send honey, walnuts, and philo pastry.
Post by: Moonfish on December 05, 2014, 09:14:31 AM
(http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=34518;type=avatar)
Post by: Jay F on December 05, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
Yes, one fears a permanent condition: some people have a debilitating tinnitus for years and years: very depressing! My hearing in the left ear was considerably weakened by the volume of the tinnitus (pronounced tin'-ni-toos in Latin, incorrectly pronounced ti-NITE-iss by our unenlightened types). I recall being in the hallway and not understanding much of anything spoken loudly by several people.
I've had it since December 1998. It's high-pitched and hissy, and is exacerbated by eating white food. Nothing turns up the volume like eating rice. Pasta and anything made with flour and sugar are almost as bad, but seem like less obvious triggers the longer I have tinnitus. I usually pronounce it with the unenlightened emphasis on the second syllable. Saying it the Latin way sounds prissy, and I try to avoid sibilants when I can.
I miss hearing things people are saying. I keep closed captioning going on my TV at all times. I have a friend who mutters, perhaps passive-aggressively, and I wish I could turn his CC on.
As far as music goes, I'm much happier when the speakers are close to my head now instead of the typical speakers-across-the-room positioning. I've bought a couple of wireless speaker sets from Bowers & Wilkins, and they have made such a difference. I don't know whether I just like listening to audio files (not MP3s) more than CDs, or if it's just that the music has never been this close to my head before (other than on headphones, which will never be more than a compromise for me), but I have not enjoyed listening to music this much in many years.
I hope your TIN-nih-tuus is not making you crazy, Cato.
Post by: Mirror Image on December 28, 2014, 07:50:27 AM
Post by: EigenUser on December 28, 2014, 06:54:01 PM
I haven't seen Monkey Greg on here in awhile. I hope he's okay. He might be on vacation.I know. And he's the one mostly responsible for my Bruckner phase right now! I don't know how long it would have taken me to hear the 6th if it wasn't for his praise of the work.
Post by: Moonfish on December 28, 2014, 07:13:11 PM
I know. And he's the one mostly responsible for my Bruckner phase right now! I don't know how long it would have taken me to hear the 6th if it wasn't for his praise of the work.
I agree with you Eigenuser! Greig certainly made me (us) pay more attention to Bruckner's 6th and it has been a great experience! :)
Post by: Brian on January 05, 2015, 08:04:13 PM
I haven't seen Monkey Greg on here in awhile. I hope he's okay. He might be on vacation.Just checked his Twitter, he posted something there on New Year's Eve. Hasn't been active here since Dec. 17. Probably having some holiday-themed family time.
Post by: Mirror Image on January 05, 2015, 09:30:42 PM
Just checked his Twitter, he posted something there on New Year's Eve. Hasn't been active here since Dec. 17. Probably having some holiday-themed family time.
It's quite possible. I hope he returns soon.
Post by: Moonfish on January 05, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
It's quite possible. I hope he returns soon.
For Bruckner's 7th.... :D
Post by: Mirror Image on January 05, 2015, 10:42:14 PM
For Bruckner's 7th.... :D
Yes, and also for his contributions to the Elgar thread. (like you, me, 71 dB, Elgarian, and several others here --- he's a huge fan)
Post by: Cosi bel do on January 16, 2015, 03:20:06 AM
In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks performed last week, a few minutes from my home, on a journal I read and journalists and cartoonists I deeply admire, I had adopted this cover as an avatar :
(http://www.contrepoints.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Charlie-Hebdo-aux-chiottes-toutes-les-religions-Credit-Mona-Eberhardt-Creative-Commons.jpg)
Cabu, its author, had responded to the ridiculous "Piss Christ" exhibited in Avignon with an interesting and provocative proposal, that was reflecting a whole section of the journal on the theme of blasphemy, and how blasphemy cannot be forbidden in a true democracy, and even has to be encouraged.
This was a wretched but honest homage to Cabu, and the other murdered cartoonists (Charb, Wolinski, Tignous, Honoré) and journalists (among which the economist Bernard Maris), to their friends, and to other victims of fundamentalists last week, who had specifically targeted journalists, policemen and women, and jews. I intended to keep it a few days, at least after all of them were buried, all the homages were finished, and after the phase of collective mourning would have ended, probably too early anyway. I have explained that to the moderators, and refrained from posting on other topics that the one opened for CHarlie Hebdo, so that this image wouldn't be off topic (even if I don't think everyone has a musical avatar anyway).
At least one person on the forum decided that this image was unacceptable, offensive, and that it should be taken down. Of course, several persons had already turned the homage to Charlie into a debate in which they were simply, and not very cleverly, turning the whole thing into a war against all muslims and all the rest of humanity (when it seems, after his declarations yesterday, even the pope is much more closer from the terrorists in his arguments than from Charlie Hebdo, when he defends the right to "throw a fist in the face of someone who would insult my mother", one of the most frequent "parables" of islamists). One of them even adopted as an avatar the T-shirt inspired by a quote made by Jean-Marie Le Pen after the attacks, when he said "Je suis Charlie Martel", in reference to Charles Martel, the Frank king who, because he had defeated the Umeyyad califate in Poitiers (and despite these Umeyyad attacks were looting expeditions, and not aimed at conquest) became a distorted symbol of a millenial "clash of civilizations", for xenophobic movements in France. In this context, saying "Je suis Charlie Martel" is an incitation to declare war on all muslims and arabs in France, it has been immediately publicized as just this by the youth neonazi movement "Génération identitaire", and it is one of their shirts that was used as an avatar by Florestan. I asked uite gently for this image to be removed, as it is an incitation on racial hatred and violence, which are not legal activities and not protecting by the concept of free speech (just as djihadist appeals to join war against Western countries are also illegal and heavily punished). Jean-Marie Le Pen has been condemned multiple times for this kind of declarations (and for denying the existence of the Holocaust).
I did not come here for a couple days in order for the moderators to treat this issue calmly. The result is that both avatars have been suppressed as equivalently offensive and because they took "politics outside of the restricted area of the Diner" according to Que (when I have, as I already said, avoided other sections in order to avoid that).
Therefore, at the same time:
a) both images are deemed unacceptable because politically too engaged, when mine is a simple homage made to victims of religious bigotry and terrorist violence;
b) both images are suppressed only as "off-topic", when one is not more than "blasphemy" (and therefore legal in the country where my messages are posted, and where they are hosted, which is all that counts), and the other a call to xenophobic violence (and therefore illegal in the countries where Florestan writes and where the board is hosted).
I therefore leave because:
a) I can't accept to stay here when the official line is to consider blasphemy as an equivalent to xenophobic violence, because it is exactly the argument behind the killings, and it is exactly the reason why so many people have switched from "Je suis Charlie" last week to "wait, stop that now, you were supposed to be dead" in the past couple of days.
b) In addition, of course, freedom of speech doesn't apply here (we are on a forum, privately owned and managed) and there is an editorial line. This case simply proves that this editorial line is very lenient on far-right ideas, up to the point of hesitating in the censoring of hate speech and other illegal discourses against racial or religious categories, and jumping on blasphemy when it concerns Catholicism (at the same time, the recent cover aimed at Islam only was posted on the Charlie thread without any hesitation).
I thank all members who have engaged in musical discussions with me, and those who have suggested that I should remain calm and ignore the few morons here. I don't consider anyone a moron, I sufficiently respect every single person here to consider that the expression of an opinion, even a racist and violent one, should be considered as nothing else than what he truly believes in (and, therefore, considered as dangerous and legally condemned as such). And that the equivalency proposed by moderators between "blasphemy against other religions than muslim" and "incitation to violent actions against all muslims and arabs" is the result of a very coherent, deeply debated and truly shared editorial line here.
My interest in music, and my wish to kill a few hours discussing it online, is not so strong that I would renounce to a few personal basic principles, and endorse what this forum endorses as its editorial line. It is with great joy that I realized this is not at all where I belong, and leave your company.
Discobolus.
Post by: The new erato on January 16, 2015, 04:12:07 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 04:23:19 AM
Cabu, its author, had responded to the ridiculous "Piss Christ" exhibited in Avignon with an interesting and provocative proposal, that was reflecting a whole section of the journal on the theme of blasphemy, and how blasphemy cannot be forbidden in a true democracy, and even has to be encouraged.
"Cannot be forbidden," agreed.
Okay: Why, exactly, "has to be encouraged"?
And I agree: Piss Christ was perfectly ridiculous. My objection is no matter of blasphemy, but of appallingly poor taste. IOW, an artistic and not a religious objection.
Post by: Florestan on January 16, 2015, 04:34:17 AM
Discobolus is wrong. In Romania it is not illegal to wear a T-shirt stating "Je suis Charlie Martel"; it is not illegal to think, say and print that Charles Martel, or rather Karl Martell, did indeed save Western Europe from islamization (which is not even a matter of legal vs illegal, but of historical facts, geographical data and logic); it is not illegal to discuss Islam and to point out that it is not islamophobia that paints it as the harshest, bloodiest, most violent and intolerant religion on Earth, but the Quran, the Sirat and the Hadith themselves; much to his chagrin, it is not even illegal to quote Jean Marie Le Pen.
What is indeed illegal is slander, such as calling someone racist and xenophobic and implying he supports and promotes indiscriminate violence against muslims and arabs, without offering the slightest proof for such allegations.
As for abruptly leaving an environment just because some people happen not to agree with one's own views, it's up to anyone's maturity and sense of proportions to take or not to take the step. As far as I'm concerned, j'y suis, j'y reste. :D
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 04:38:12 AM
Not that it matters anymore for him, but...
Discobolus is wrong.
Indeed. He doesn't get how reacting to the violence of some extremists, by characterizing all religions' sacred texts as toilet tissue, is bigotry. Or, like many, he feels that bigotry is a very, very bad thing — unless the object of your bigotry is people of faith. Then bigotry becomes a virtue, nay — a social imperative! "Blasphemy has to be encouraged." Rubbish.
Post by: North Star on January 16, 2015, 04:48:07 AM
Post by: Mirror Image on January 16, 2015, 05:29:00 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 05:32:23 AM
[...] I have no interest in political or religious discussions.
Very sensible!
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 05:35:13 AM
There's a reason why I don't partake in political discussions here: they don't lead to anything fulfilling. Music is my one true love in this life, so in joining this forum, I came here to discuss music and only music. I will reply in threads like Greg's Failed Experiment thread because I like reading about other people's love lives and the encouragement I get from other members, but, alas, I'm here for the music. I have no interest in political or religious discussions.
+1
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 05:47:31 AM
Post by: kishnevi on January 16, 2015, 06:05:41 AM
The Hebdo cover was offensive to me, and it troubles me that Discobolus can not see why using it as his avatar was itself needlessly offensive.
My current avatar, btw, is one of the four men martyred last Friday in Paris..
http://972mag.com/yoav-hattab-son-of-chief-rabbi-of-tunis-died-a-hero-and-tunisian-patriot/101249/
Post by: The new erato on January 16, 2015, 06:16:49 AM
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 06:18:19 AM
Indeed. He doesn't get how reacting to the violence of some extremists, by characterizing all religions' sacred texts as toilet tissue, is bigotry. Or, like many, he feels that bigotry is a very, very bad thing — unless the object of your bigotry is people of faith. Then bigotry becomes a virtue, nay — a social imperative! "Blasphemy has to be encouraged." Rubbish.
I agree, except for the last bit as I explain in point 4 below, and want to add a few random observations.
1. It was not Florestan who first objected to an avatar, nor was it Florestan who demanded an avatar be removed. That was Discobolus in both cases.
2. In no way is the T shirt an incitement to anything. Even if, and I do not grant this, it were an expression of xenophobia or bigotry that would still not make it an incitement. Not even close.
3. I support Discobolus's right to blaspheme and partly approve of his having done so (I will explain why in a moment). I do though think it sad that rather than defying the terrorists and bullies by attacking only their symbols he decided to treat exactly the same way those religions which can be safely mocked already, and whose adherents do not kill you for mocking. It's a false equivalence that misses the point. Nonetheless I would not have demanded he change his avatar.
4 As for when blasphemy is a good thing. When it is a gesture of defiance and the assertion of freedom against violent attacks. I think that when a right is under attack it must be defended and prohibitions defied. The de facto prohibition here is on depictions of Mohammed. So that is the blaphemous act which answers the terrorists. Charlie Hebdo did that on its latest cover. Discobolus did not do that. Posting a caricature of Jews when the terrorists killed Jews is not really what is called for.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 06:22:17 AM
I agree, except for the last bit as I explain in point 4 below, and want to add a few random observations.
1. It was not Florestan who first objected to an avatar, nor was it Florestan who demanded an avatar be removed. That was Discobolus in both cases.
2. In no way is the T shirt an incitement to anything. Even if, and I do not grant this, it were an expression of xenophobia or bigotry that would still not make it an incitement. Not even close.
3. I support Discobolus's right to blaspheme and partly approve of his having done so (I will explain why in a moment). I do though think it sad that rather than defying the terrorists and bullies by attacking only their symbols he decided to treat exactly the same way those religions which can be safely mocked already, and whose adherents do not kill you for mocking. It's a false equivalence that misses the point. Nonetheless I would not have demanded he change his avatar.
4 As for when blasphemy is a good thing. When it is a gesture of defiance and the assertion of freedom against violent attacks. I think that when a right is under attack it must be defended and prohibitions defied. The de facto prohibition here is on depictions of Mohammed. So that is the blaphemous act which answers the terrorists. Charlie Hebdo did that on its latest cover. Discobolus did not do that. Posting a caricature of Jews when the terrorists killed Jews is not really what is called for.
Excellent points, thank you.
Post by: EigenUser on January 16, 2015, 06:28:08 AM
There's a reason why I don't partake in political discussions here: they don't lead to anything fulfilling. Music is my one true love in this life, so in joining this forum, I came here to discuss music and only music. I will reply in threads like Greg's Failed Experiment thread because I like reading about other people's love lives and the encouragement I get from other members, but, alas, I'm here for the music. I have no interest in political or religious discussions.My view exactly. I have no problem in giving a political view of mine, but I'm not going to argue it. I figure that if someone already has a differing opinion (regardless of how 'incorrect' I might find it), I'm not going to change their mind. Even if I did, it isn't like they'd ever admit it.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
A classic xkcd cartoon, and something I try and avoid. Of course, if they are wrong about music, well, that's a different story...
:D :laugh: ;)
BTW, I'll miss the photoshopped Boulez avatar...
Also, what happened to Monkey Greg?!
Post by: The new erato on January 16, 2015, 06:34:18 AM
I have no problem in giving a political view of mine, but I'm not going to argue it.Me too, and I've already given my opinion. Letting the terrorists make this a less useful and enjoyable site by quarrelling about it, will only give them one more (albeit exremely minor) victory. Everybody would be well advised to consider that. Nuff' said.
Post by: North Star on January 16, 2015, 06:34:58 AM
My view exactly. I have no problem in giving a political view of mine, but I'm not going to argue it. I figure that if someone already has a differing opinion (regardless of how 'incorrect' I might find it), I'm not going to change their mind. Even if I did, it isn't like they'd ever admit it.Agreed with everything. Oh, and if someone is wrong about photography! :P
A classic xkcd cartoon, and something I try and avoid. Of course, if they are wrong about music, well, that's a different story...
:D :laugh: ;)
BTW, I'll miss the photoshopped Boulez avatar...
Also, what happened to Monkey Greg?!
Perhaps Greg is still on holiday?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 16, 2015, 06:40:14 AM
I find the Charlie Martell avatar far more offensive than Discobolus avatarm, for what it's worth. I think this site anyway has much to loose by such posturing . I strongly support MIs view, and would prefer such discussions to be kept away from this site.
I would like nothing better than to delete every political and religious thread which anyone starts. Shall we get a mandate for that?
Our philosophy here, quite unlike how it was recently portrayed, is to let discussion happen. I can't imagine I am the only one here who sees the irony in having an advocate for free speech demand that anyone who doesn't agree with him should be censored? Am I?
In any case, anyone here is free to come and go as they choose. It is completely irrational to suggest that an inanimate establishment, that is, a forum, maintains a political stance. The variety of beliefs of the people here is staggering, and no one of them holds sway. I look at attempts to gain advantage by challenging the system as being corrupt are nothing more than bullying, and it won't be tolerated.
This discussion doesn't need to continue in this thread, which has a purpose of its own.
Gurn
8)
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 06:42:44 AM
I find the Charlie Martell avatar far more offensive than Discobolus avatarm, for what it's worth. I think this site anyway has much to loose by such posturing . I strongly support MIs view, and would prefer such discussions to be kept away from this site.
I agree with your Erato! I am simply sad that we now have lost Discobolus' voice in the music forum. :(
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 06:45:43 AM
My view exactly. I have no problem in giving a political view of mine, but I'm not going to argue it. I figure that if someone already has a differing opinion (regardless of how 'incorrect' I might find it), I'm not going to change their mind. Even if I did, it isn't like they'd ever admit it.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
A classic xkcd cartoon, and something I try and avoid. Of course, if they are wrong about music, well, that's a different story...
:D :laugh: ;)
BTW, I'll miss the photoshopped Boulez avatar...
Also, what happened to Monkey Greg?!
Great cartoon Eigenuser! Unfortunately, one that comes close to the truth......
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 16, 2015, 06:50:31 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)There is something perfect about this cartoon. It somehow releases the anger one has when acting this way. Thank you.
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 06:50:36 AM
I would like nothing better than to delete every political and religious thread which anyone starts. Shall we get a mandate for that?
I vote No. I especially vote No in the wake of Discobolus's petulant and intellectually bankrupt attacks on another member, because it will be hard to see this as anything else but endorsing them. Further I think the remaining posters here are mature enough to keep even heated disagreements from escalating to bogus charges of racism or incitement to violence.
Besides no political or religious argument can be half as odious to me as praise of La Mer >:D :laugh: :laugh:
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 06:52:35 AM
Besides no political or religious argument can be half as odious to me as praise of La Mer >:D :laugh: :laugh:
I strongly disagree, but I stand by your right to opine.
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 06:53:54 AM
I vote No. I especially vote No in the wake of Discobolus's petulant and intellectually bankrupt attacks on another member, because it will be hard to see this as anything else but endorsing them. Further I think the remaining posters here are mature enough to keep even heated disagreements from escalating to bogus charges of racism or incitement to violence.
Besides no political or religious argument can be half as odious to me as praise of La Mer >:D :laugh: :laugh:
Why is it that people don't go nuts in the music discussions (apart from Ken of course), while the diner creates firestorms of stupidity?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 06:55:11 AM
Post by: springrite on January 16, 2015, 06:59:34 AM
I strongly disagree, but I stand by your right to opine.
I stand by his right to opine but not your right to strongly disagree… :P
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 16, 2015, 06:59:56 AM
Why is it that people don't go nuts in the music discussions (apart from Ken of course), while the diner creates fire storms of stupidity?
Once upon a time people here did go nuts discussing music (M forever was usually at the center of the storms). His first banishment caused a mass exodus. We lost many valuable members.
Sarge
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 07:01:47 AM
I stand by his right to opine but not your right to strongly disagree… :P
I shall disagree, even if you do not stand by me!
Post by: springrite on January 16, 2015, 07:03:01 AM
Once upon a time people here did go nuts discussing music (M forever was usually at the center of the storms). His first banishment caused a mass exodus. We lost many valuable members.
Sarge
Correct. And his presence also caused a mass exodus and some of whom returned upon his banishment. I hold no opinion on this and have no figure to show which number is bigger. But there is no doubt that those who left after M's banishment are some of our more valuable members.
Post by: North Star on January 16, 2015, 07:04:35 AM
Once upon a time people here did go nuts discussing music (M forever was usually at the center of the storms). His first banishment caused a mass exodus. We lost many valuable members.Did that loss have a negative effect, then?
Sarge
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 07:05:11 AM
Post by: Henk on January 16, 2015, 07:05:30 AM
Further I think the remaining posters here are mature enough to keep even heated disagreements from escalating to bogus charges of racism or incitement to violence.
+1
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 16, 2015, 07:07:19 AM
Once upon a time people here did go nuts discussing music (M forever was usually at the center of the storms). His first banishment caused a mass exodus. We lost many valuable members.
Sarge
But he was not banned for his opinions on music. He was banned because of his absolutely deplorable abuse of people who didn't agree with him, or who weren't as knowledgeable as him. His 3 year grace period came to an end with no sign of any sort of rehabilitation.
Lest we forget and go on a Poor M crusade... 0:)
8)
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 07:07:33 AM
Maybe the idea is that firestorms of stupidity are perhaps unavoidable on the InterTubes, so let's at least contain them in the Diner . . . .
You have a point there Karl! Still, I think it stinks that such volatile threads lead to the departure of members that actually contribute to the music discussions elsewhere in the forum. Isn't that the purpose of the forum? Some members literally "live" in the GMG diner happily trolling away. Like MI I tend to read these posts rather than engage as I prefer to not become the stick figure in Eigenuser's cartoon. After all, arguments about religion and politics will never change anybody's views about anything. It just becomes an endless argument. I pity the moderators. We should all pool some money and buy them some chocolates..... ::)
Post by: springrite on January 16, 2015, 07:09:30 AM
We should all pool some money and buy them some chocolates..... ::)
I'd go for alcohol
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 07:11:48 AM
I'd go for alcohol
We will get a discount if we buy in bulk....
Post by: Henk on January 16, 2015, 07:14:42 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 16, 2015, 07:15:06 AM
We will get a discount if we buy in bulk....
(http://www.lvmh.com/uploads/assets/Fiches-societes/Visuels-gauche/2008Glenmorangie2.jpg)
Not bulk, please! >:D
8)
Post by: North Star on January 16, 2015, 07:17:08 AM
Not bulk, please! >:DDammit, I was about order a case of Glenmorangie for you guys. Thank goodness you managed to persuade me to not do so. ::)
8)
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 16, 2015, 07:18:32 AM
Dammit, I was about order a case of Glenmorangie for you guys. Thank goodness you managed to persuade me to not do so. ::)You still bought it though, right?! :)
Post by: North Star on January 16, 2015, 07:20:28 AM
You still bought it though, right?! :)You mean, for myself? No. . .
Post by: The new erato on January 16, 2015, 07:21:41 AM
We will get a discount if we buy in bulk....I already buy in bulk.
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 07:25:24 AM
I already buy in bulk.
:D :D
Your basement?
(http://media.tumblr.com/851a6ece68058634b082b163a6d139b7/tumblr_inline_msuhy6BTNY1rf20z5.jpg)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 07:27:47 AM
(http://www.lvmh.com/uploads/assets/Fiches-societes/Visuels-gauche/2008Glenmorangie2.jpg)
Not bulk, please! >:D
8)
I've much enjoyed the La Santa . . . you would recommend the original, then? (Not that I should be at all surprised, at its worthiness, I mean.)
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 16, 2015, 07:28:53 AM
But he was not banned for his opinions on music. He was banned because of his absolutely deplorable abuse of people who didn't agree with him, or who weren't as knowledgeable as him. His 3 year grace period came to an end with no sign of any sort of rehabilitation.
Lest we forget and go on a Poor M crusade... 0:)
8)
Good heavens, no...that's not what I meant at all. I know he wasn't banned for his musical opinions. I was happy to see him go. What saddened me was seeing who voluntarily left with him.
Did that loss have a negative effect, then?
In terms of musical dialogue, I think it did...but I still prefer the forum's current pleasant atmosphere to the dread I sometimes used to experience here. I no longer fear clicking on a thread...unless, of course, Florestan is active in it ;D ;)
Sarge
Post by: The new erato on January 16, 2015, 07:30:55 AM
:D :DI wish. 900 bottles though.....and while CDs can be unplayed, bottles must be drunk. CDCDCD obsession in the wine department takes its toll.
Your basement?
(http://media.tumblr.com/851a6ece68058634b082b163a6d139b7/tumblr_inline_msuhy6BTNY1rf20z5.jpg)
Post by: The new erato on January 16, 2015, 07:32:17 AM
I share the sentiment, smileys and all.
In terms of musical dialogue, I think it did...but I still prefer the forum's current pleasant atmosphere to the dread I sometimes used to experience here. I no longer fear clicking on a thread...unless, of course, Florestan is active in it ;D ;)
Sarge
Post by: Gordo on January 16, 2015, 07:32:59 AM
1.- The avatar of Discobolus is, as a matter of fact, offensive to many people, not just on this board, but in the real world. Therefore, the moderators have decided in a wise way banning it.
2.- What is acceptable as a "joke" (essentially ephemeral) isn't always acceptable as an avatar and permanent declaration of principles.
3.- The output of the members of "Charlie Hebdo" (meanly murdered in Paris) hasn't been automatically sacralized because of their tragic and absurdly unjustified homicides.
4.- The Charlie Martel avatar is, as a matter of fact too, offensive, but I think it was precisely the point of Andrei. Nobody here doubts that it has been rightly banned.
5.- I will be totally unfair and subjective here, but while I was reading the last message by Discobolus, I couldn't avoid to perceive his own satisfaction and "pride" because of being a martyr in the cause of free speech.
I'm not saying that he is acting as a "drama queen", but...
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 07:37:00 AM
4.- The Charlie Martel avatar... Nobody here doubts that it has been rightly banned.
I do. :blank:
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5.- Discobolus,... I'm not saying that he is acting as a "drama queen", but...
I do. :D
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 07:40:24 AM
Good heavens, no...that's not what I meant at all. I know he wasn't banned for his musical opinions. I was happy to see him go. What saddened me was seeing who voluntarily left with him.
In terms of musical dialogue, I think it did...but I still prefer the forum's current pleasant atmosphere to the dread I sometimes used to experience here. I no longer fear clicking on a thread...unless, of course, Florestan is active in it ;D ;)
Sarge
(* chortle *)
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 07:42:38 AM
I do. :blank:
I do. :D
Are you feeling a kinship, Ken? ;)
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 07:45:06 AM
Are you feeling a kinship, Ken? ;)
It's a flashback: reliving two great errors of my past ...
:laugh: 8)
Post by: springrite on January 16, 2015, 07:46:23 AM
It's a flashback: reliving two great errors of my past ...
:laugh: 8)
You get to relive them faster when you do them two at a time. ;)
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on January 16, 2015, 08:26:39 AM
Post by: springrite on January 16, 2015, 08:28:53 AM
("You’re gonna miss me by my walk; You’re gonna miss me by my talk; You’re gonna miss me when I’m gone...")
…and you will be talking about me for ages!
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 08:33:06 AM
The saddest part, for me, is realizing that Discobolus's deliberate and self-conscious exiting is more or less symbolic aggression.(my bold)
Well put. I would have sympathy for him had Que simply zapped his avatar out of the blue. But Discobolus had already demanded that an avatar he disliked be zapped. Then he complained when his own avatar, which had been cited by others as obnoxious, was zapped. That to me counts as hypocrisy not martyrdom.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 08:34:26 AM
…and you will be talking about me for ages!
http://www.youtube.com/v/0HND8ywYcC0
Post by: springrite on January 16, 2015, 08:36:00 AM
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 08:38:54 AM
That one episode aside, I do hope he comes back though. I was against having the diner when the idea was first put up for discussion and this is the reason why.
Having read some of the old threads, I'd prefer to have Josquin back. Just sayin'!
(I know he pissed off a lot of folks but his comments on art and music were interesting, and had more merit than many credit.)
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 16, 2015, 08:50:07 AM
That one episode aside, I do hope he comes back though. I was against having the diner when the idea was first put up for discussion and this is the reason why.
+1
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 16, 2015, 08:52:55 AM
Having read some of the old threads, I'd prefer to have Josquin back. Just sayin'!
(I know he pissed off a lot of folks but his comments on art and music were interesting, and had more merit than many credit.)
Of course, reading the old threads doesn't give you the full flavor, since much of the crappy stuff was deleted. Same with M and some others who are gone. What you see, even if it is objectionable, is only the tip of the original iceberg... $:)
8)
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 08:55:15 AM
That one episode aside, I do hope he comes back though. I was against having the diner when the idea was first put up for discussion and this is the reason why.+2
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 09:00:04 AM
Of course, reading the old threads doesn't give you the full flavor, since much of the crappy stuff was deleted. Same with M and some others who are gone. What you see, even if it is objectionable, is only the tip of the original iceberg... $:)
8)
??? ??? ???
:o :o :o
??? ???
There was even more praise for La Mer in the past???
>:D :laugh:
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 09:01:27 AM
??? ??? ???
:o :o :o
??? ???
There was even more praise for La Mer in the past???
>:D :laugh:
Of course! It has been around for almost 4 billion years!! ;)
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on January 16, 2015, 09:11:52 AM
Having read some of the old threads, I'd prefer to have Josquin back. Just sayin'!
Hmmm...something tells me you might have gotten your wish already.
Meanwhile, I'm hoping Sean will come back. He was a narcissistic spectacle to behold, but this place is poorer without him.
Post by: The new erato on January 16, 2015, 09:15:49 AM
Hmmm...something tells me you might have gotten your wish already.Or, at least the world were a better place for others when we were able to keep an eye on his activities.
Meanwhile, I'm hoping Sean will come back. He was a narcissistic spectacle to behold, but this place is poorer without him.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 16, 2015, 09:15:52 AM
??? ??? ???
:o :o :o
??? ???
There was even more praise for La Mer in the past???
>:D :laugh:
Well, there was Pinky... :)
8)
Post by: Henk on January 16, 2015, 09:29:55 AM
Hmmm...something tells me you might have gotten your wish already.
Meanwhile, I'm hoping Sean will come back. He was a narcissistic spectacle to behold, but this place is poorer without him.
+1 He liked and had interesting comments about Rossini operas. That's a big +.
Post by: Henk on January 16, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
Many good things in the Diner. Discussing non-classical music. Art. Photography. Books. Many interesting and fun topics.
And the classical music discussion really doesn't suffer from it..
Post by: kishnevi on January 16, 2015, 09:36:06 AM
Post by: (: premont :) on January 16, 2015, 09:39:02 AM
I wonder, if he ever will find a forum, where he likes to participate.
Post by: Sammy on January 16, 2015, 09:41:32 AM
(my bold)
Well put. I would have sympathy for him had Que simply zapped his avatar out of the blue. But Discobolus had already demanded that an avatar he disliked be zapped. Then he complained when his own avatar, which had been cited by others as obnoxious, was zapped. That to me counts as hypocrisy not martyrdom.
To me, Discobolus was indeed a drama queen and a bit of a control freak. People come, people go - it's all fine. Honestly, I can't recall any time when a person's departure had any negative impact on the board.
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 09:44:48 AM
Has anyone heard from Chamber Nut? I know he logs on here regularly.
I found his Brahms avatar offensive.
;)
Post by: Henk on January 16, 2015, 09:45:43 AM
Post by: Moonfish on January 16, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
I found his Brahms avatar offensive.
;)
Was it the beard?
Go Brahms (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C9lfgGPgthg/TcLd-PxnapI/AAAAAAAAAA4/PmQP05DBM7g/s1600/symphonies.jpg)!!
Post by: knight66 on January 16, 2015, 09:59:48 AM
Why is it that people don't go nuts in the music discussions (apart from Ken of course), while the diner creates firestorms of stupidity?
In all my years here as member and mod, one of the worst firestorms was on a Haydn thread, it made my hair stand on end.
Sad to lose a valuable member, but it was his own choice. Although I attempted it, ultimately is is not my function here to reconcile two very polarised posters. I am not interested in saying anything negative about someone who is no longer around to defend himself, he will be welcome to return any time he feels like it.
Mike (Knight)
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 16, 2015, 10:48:30 AM
I am not interested in saying anything negative about someone who is no longer around to defend himselfThank you. I hope others will take your lead...
Mike (Knight)
Post by: Brewski on January 16, 2015, 01:08:49 PM
I am not interested in saying anything negative about someone who is no longer around to defend himself, he will be welcome to return any time he feels like it.
Mike (Knight)
Just want to say that I agree with Mike's comment above, Gurn's assessment of the situation, and Que's original action - all very reasonable under the circumstances. And just a reminder: though any of us can - and does - take action independently on an issue, we discuss these things extensively as a team, and we each bring different skills and viewpoints. (I only wish we had a female moderator for yet another point of view.)
Personally, I also usually decline to discuss religion or politics here, mostly because: I'm here to read about classical music and opinions on recordings, concerts, and other issues related to the field. There are plenty of boards elsewhere to discuss other things.
Anyway, carry on. 8)
--Bruce
Post by: Que on January 16, 2015, 01:36:48 PM
I suppose it is better if I explain why I will now leave the forum and, contrary to previous times, not be back in the future.
Although not unexpected, this is a pity and I hope you'll rejoin us some time in the future. :)
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I did not come here for a couple days in order for the moderators to treat this issue calmly. The result is that both avatars have been suppressed as equivalently offensive and because they took "politics outside of the restricted area of the Diner" according to Que (when I have, as I already said, avoided other sections in order to avoid that).
Therefore, at the same time:
a) both images are deemed unacceptable because politically too engaged, when mine is a simple homage made to victims of religious bigotry and terrorist violence;
b) both images are suppressed only as "off-topic", when one is not more than "blasphemy" (and therefore legal in the country where my messages are posted, and where they are hosted, which is all that counts), and the other a call to xenophobic violence (and therefore illegal in the countries where Florestan writes and where the board is hosted).
I therefore leave because:
a) I can't accept to stay here when the official line is to consider blasphemy as an equivalent to xenophobic violence, because it is exactly the argument behind the killings, and it is exactly the reason why so many people have switched from "Je suis Charlie" last week to "wait, stop that now, you were supposed to be dead" in the past couple of days.
b) In addition, of course, freedom of speech doesn't apply here (we are on a forum, privately owned and managed) and there is an editorial line. This case simply proves that this editorial line is very lenient on far-right ideas, up to the point of hesitating in the censoring of hate speech and other illegal discourses against racial or religious categories, and jumping on blasphemy when it concerns Catholicism (at the same time, the recent cover aimed at Islam only was posted on the Charlie thread without any hesitation).
[…]
And that the equivalency proposed by moderators between "blasphemy against other religions than muslim" and "incitation to violent actions against all muslims and arabs" is the result of a very coherent, deeply debated and truly shared editorial line here.
My interest in music, and my wish to kill a few hours discussing it online, is not so strong that I would renounce to a few personal basic principles, and endorse what this forum endorses as its editorial line. It is with great joy that I realized this is not at all where I belong, and leave your company.
Discobolus.
I am surprised that you can't accept that both avatars were considered equivalent only in the way they were both center point of a undesirable clash between two members and took a political feud outside of the Diner. We did not take sides and did not take a position on the respective political/ideological motives behind using the avatars or the obviously different points of view on the desirable relation between blasphemy and free speech. Objectively, both images were offensive to some degree - leaving aside any comparative qualification or appraisal. But frankly that was not a primary concern (yet). Our primary duty is to keep the peace around here, not to arbitrate in political disputes.
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This case simply proves that this editorial line is very lenient on far-right ideas, up to the point of hesitating in the censoring of hate speech and other illegal discourses against racial or religious categories, and jumping on blasphemy when it concerns Catholicism
"very lenient on far-right ideas"… Well, well, as it happens another poster accused us of a left-wing bias in this matter - taking your side. What do you know? ::) :D So it goes... :laugh:
As far as hate-speech is concerned - we have intervened plenty of times in the past against that.
Hate speech against muslims and anti-semitism was actually kind of a speciality of the mentioned Josquin - one of the two members ever banned on my watch so far.
But unfortunately (or rather: fortunately) you were not around at that time…
Best, Que
Post by: Christo on January 16, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Post by: knight66 on January 16, 2015, 02:11:29 PM
It is often the case that I am taking the part of someone with whom I fundamentally disagree, we all do this and there are many assumptions made of what our leanings are. As has been suggested, we are often accused of bias by both sides of an argument. (Rolls eyes.)
Those reading the leaving statement closely may be amused that one reason for leaving was due to the posting of this week's front cover by the magazine. However, D had specifically asked me to post It. My counter suggestion was, that as he had said he would change his avatar, he change it to that cover as a gesture of reconciliation. Without being aware of that exchange Gurn then posted it......but, water under the bridge. On with the motley.
Knight
Post by: Ken B on January 16, 2015, 02:17:13 PM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 16, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Post by: Henk on January 16, 2015, 02:55:27 PM
Post by: Florestan on January 17, 2015, 06:55:00 AM
I had private communication with three moderators and I did not detect the slightest bias in any of them, nor did I object in any way when one of them erased both avatars.
Just to be clear: I did not want this conflict, I did not start it and I am not glad at its outcome.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 17, 2015, 08:10:27 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 17, 2015, 08:16:28 AM
Greg is settling into a new job, pops in a-lurking from time to time, and looks forward to coming back in more participatory wise.
Thanks for the info, Karl.
Sarge
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 17, 2015, 08:20:08 AM
Post by: Cato on January 17, 2015, 08:27:54 AM
Post by: Mirror Image on January 17, 2015, 08:18:19 PM
Greg is settling into a new job, pops in a-lurking from time to time, and looks forward to coming back in more participatory wise.
That's good to hear, Karl. I miss my sock monkey friend. :)
Post by: Moonfish on January 17, 2015, 08:31:20 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on January 17, 2015, 08:41:55 PM
We should all listen to Bruckner 6 in honor of his imminent return to GMG!! :P
Or Elgar or R. Strauss or Britten or....Greg likes so many composers. :)
Post by: EigenUser on January 18, 2015, 03:23:35 AM
We should all listen to Bruckner 6 in honor of his imminent return to GMG!! :PIf I temporarily left, would you all listen to Ligeti? :laugh: :P ;)
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 18, 2015, 04:08:11 AM
If I temporarily left, would you all listen to Ligeti? :laugh: :P ;)I would temporarlily think about it. That's the best I can do! :)
Post by: Marc on January 18, 2015, 01:07:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/0HND8ywYcC0
Oh my!
I could never forget about Molly Ringwald, that's for sure.
Pity that the Disco Man left, though.
I was part of that Charlie et al discussion, getting a bit (?) too emotional :-[, but ... I'm only human, born to make mistakes.
As Charlie says: tout est pardonné.
But I still miss Navneeth (Opus 106).
Post by: kishnevi on January 18, 2015, 03:06:42 PM
Oh my!
I could never forget about Molly Ringwald, that's for sure.
Pity that the Disco Man left, though.
I was part of that Charlie et al discussion, getting a bit (?) too emotional :-[, but ... I'm only human, born to make mistakes.
As Charlie says: tout est pardonné.
But I still miss Navneeth (Opus 106).
She released a jazz album in 2013
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WC5e6D3VL.jpg).
Navneeth pops up from time at Symphonyshare. So I presume he is doing well.
Post by: Marc on January 19, 2015, 01:27:49 AM
She released a jazz album in 2013
(http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/38280/0c24fc382795633.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0c24fc382795633).
Navneeth pops up from time at Symphonyshare. So I presume he is doing well.
He's still around then. That's good news! :)
I.c. unforgettable Molly:
(http://111.imagebam.com/download/u6rTciVS9j9WUCPZ_FyPsQ/38280/382791772/mr-g1.gif)
She's got a sweet singing voice, but if I'd buy that disc and listen to her Don't you forget about me every evening before bedtime, I'm afraid I wouldn't get much sleep.
(http://111.imagebam.com/download/9e675Z-lIjHaFNvXPCMAFg/38280/382791819/mr-p1.jpg)
;D
Post by: Cato on January 19, 2015, 04:41:24 AM
We should all listen to Bruckner 6 in honor of his imminent return to GMG!!
GREAT IDEA!!! 0:)
Concering Mollly Ringwald:
I am having trouble persuading my belligerent neurons that 1985 was 30 years ago.
Because I can do a comparison, you see, and recall that when I was younger in the 1950's and 1960's, "30 years ago" meant the strange and faraway days of the Roaring Twenties and the Depression. Now, "30 years ago" does not seem all that distant at all...but it is! ;)
Post by: Jo498 on January 19, 2015, 05:24:36 AM
So do I... It struck me already a few years ago that when I was in primary school around 1980 and my Grandma recounted stuff from WW 2 or the immediate time afterwards around 1950 this was as distant as my primary school days are from today. To me this does explain some differences between people my age (born late 60s to mid/late 70s) and the ones only a few years younger. I actually had older teachers as well as classmates with elderly fathers who had served in WW2, in any case most of our parents had been born during the war and grown up in the aftermath, so both this recent past as well as certain mores were usually clearly conveyed to my generation. Whereas people born in the 1980s have usually parents having grown up in the late 60s/70s, in comparably well-off situations and also on "our side" of the social changes of the late 60s.
I am having trouble persuading my belligerent neurons that 1985 was 30 years ago.
Post by: Cato on January 19, 2015, 10:47:11 AM
So do I... It struck me already a few years ago that when I was in primary school around 1980 and my Grandma recounted stuff from WW 2 or the immediate time afterwards around 1950 this was as distant as my primary school days are from today. To me this does explain some differences between people my age (born late 60s to mid/late 70s) and the ones only a few years younger. I actually had older teachers as well as classmates with elderly fathers who had served in WW2, in any case most of our parents had been born during the war and grown up in the aftermath, so both this recent past as well as certain mores were usually clearly conveyed to my generation. Whereas people born in the 1980s have usually parents having grown up in the late 60s/70s, in comparably well-off situations and also on "our side" of the social changes of the late 60s.
Here is something of interest musically: I have a good number of students who can tell me about rock groups from 30 years ago and beyond (one girl is a Beatles fanatic), the equivalent of hearing a discussion of Bix Beiderbecke, Rudy Vallee, Alice Faye, or Bing Crosby among teenagers in the 1960's or 1970's, discussions which, I can assure you, did not take place (a handful of exceptions).
Post by: listener on January 19, 2015, 11:24:56 AM
Post by: Moonfish on January 19, 2015, 12:12:18 PM
Here is something of interest musically: I have a good number of students who can tell me about rock groups from 30 years ago and beyond (one girl is a Beatles fanatic), the equivalent of hearing a discussion of Bix Beiderbecke, Rudy Vallee, Alice Faye, or Bing Crosby among teenagers in the 1960's or 1970's, discussions which, I can assure you, did not take place (a handful of exceptions).
I suspect that the reason is partially linked to the powerful access we now have in terms of watching and listening to music/film from the past. Perhaps the 60/70s teenagers would have had those discussion with a similar access to the music?
Post by: Cato on January 19, 2015, 02:21:23 PM
I suspect that the reason is partially linked to the powerful access we now have in terms of watching and listening to music/film from the past. Perhaps the 60/70s teenagers would have had those discussion with a similar access to the music?
Well, maybe.
In fact, there was a 1930's '40's pop-kulcher revival of sorts in the later 1960's and early '70's: some movie theaters had W.C. Fields and Marx Brothers festivals. Records with old radio shows came out (again with Fields, Jack Benny, Burns and Allen, etc. ). Big Band music was also reissued, but this latter phenomenon was more for the grandparents than the teenagers.
Similar reaction to movie discussions, as much has happened since I started watching as there had been up to that time. Film historians have twice as much to learn now!
Yes: I recall a prediction about VCR's, when they first became popular and had been bought by a majority of the population in the 1980's. "Everybody can now become a film historian!"
Except the most popular genre for many years was (yes) Contemporary Pornography, ??? not "Silent CLassics" or "1930's Academy Award Winners."
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 19, 2015, 03:22:41 PM
Well, maybe.
In fact, there was a 1930's '40's pop-kulcher revival of sorts in the later 1960's and early '70's: some movie theaters had W.C. Fields and Marx Brothers festivals. Records with old radio shows came out (again with Fields, Jack Benny, Burns and Allen, etc. ). Big Band music was also reissued, but this latter phenomenon was more for the grandparents than the teenagers.
I went to all of those; liked them as much as I did the current movies. And now, the 'current' movies are classics. I remember seeing things like 'Midnight Cowboy' (Rated X! :o ) and then 'The Godfather', 'Jaws' etc when they were brand new movies. I saw 'Alien' at the World Premiere in San Francisco. That's all 'old shit' now, just like the W.C. Fields I was seeing concurrently with it. This was back in my 'going to the movies' days.
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Yes: I recall a prediction about VCR's, when they first became popular and had been bought by a majority of the population in the 1980's. "Everybody can now become a film historian!"
Except the most popular genre for many years was (yes) Contemporary Pornography, ??? not "Silent Classics" or "1930's Academy Award Winners."
I think good porn is timeless, doesn't need to be contemporary, although I know it is. Fresh, baby, gotta be fresh... :D
8)
Post by: Cato on January 19, 2015, 03:38:36 PM
I went to all of those; liked them as much as I did the current movies. And now, the 'current' movies are classics. I remember seeing things like 'Midnight Cowboy' (Rated X! :o ) and then 'The Godfather', 'Jaws' etc when they were brand new movies. I saw 'Alien' at the World Premiere in San Francisco. That's all 'old shit' now, just like the W.C. Fields I was seeing concurrently with it. This was back in my 'going to the movies' days.
I think good porn is timeless, doesn't need to be contemporary, although I know it is. Fresh, baby, gotta be fresh... :D
8)
Heh-heh! Well, I will NOT ask for a definition of "good pornography." ;)
I recall reading that at least some of those "actresses" were borderline retarded and/or drug addicts and/or beaten by abusive boyfriends or husbands to force them to appear. So what one sees is a rape on screen. Others, of course, did like the money.
Post by: Henk on January 24, 2015, 04:39:06 AM
Post by: Mirror Image on January 24, 2015, 08:08:52 AM
Chambernut, last post a month ago. Still lurking. :)
I imagine he's just busy. He's got a girlfriend and I'm happy for him. He deserves all the happiness that life can bring him.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2015, 05:43:58 AM
New job, long drives, holidays, 5 year old son, yada yada yada. :)
One word posts is the worst thread. It takes away too much attention. Monkey Greg left the house with not a great heritage.
Thanks. (my one word reply) ;)
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2015, 06:00:08 AM
I got Dohnanyi's Brucker 6 and it rocks. Simone Young's uses very similar tempos but the orchestra isn't as Brucknerish.
And welcome back and stuff.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2015, 06:06:24 AM
The Gregster!!!!!!
I got Dohnanyi's Brucker 6 and it rocks. Simone Young's uses very similar tempos but the orchestra isn't as Brucknerish.
And welcome back and stuff.
Thanks, Brian.
Anything with Dohnanyi and Bruckner on the same cover rocks!
I've had Young's 6th on the radar, and I see the worlds most handsome conductor (Mr. Paavo to you) has a new 6th arriving soon.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 29, 2015, 06:30:42 AM
Anything with Dohnanyi and Bruckner on the same cover rocks!
Everyone's waiting for Paavo to shove in . . . .
Post by: Moonfish on January 29, 2015, 07:08:16 AM
I never thought I would make the Missing Members thread ???.
New job, long drives, holidays, 5 year old son, yada yada yada. :)
Thanks. (my one word reply) ;)
Welcome back!!!
Time for Bruckner 7? >:D :D
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2015, 07:20:20 AM
Welcome back!!!
Time for Bruckner 7? >:D :D
Hey, Peter.
It's possible!
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2015, 07:26:04 AM
Thanks, Brian.Young's 6th is good but not essential.
Anything with Dohnanyi and Bruckner on the same cover rocks!
I've had Young's 6th on the radar, and I see the worlds most handsome conductor (Mr. Paavo to you) has a new 6th arriving soon.
Hey! What's the best 4th on NML? I've been storing up all these things to tell/ask you.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2015, 07:29:01 AM
Young's 6th is good but not essential.
Hey! What's the best 4th on NML? I've been storing up all these things to tell/ask you.
Young's cycle is good, and worth a listen for the original 2nd, 3rd and 8th. But better performances of them all are out there. Not essential, I agree with.
I'll have to look at the NML to see what's available. Any good 4th's you've listened to lately? And has Honeck's become available yet?
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2015, 07:45:04 AM
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2015, 07:46:31 AM
Greg, welcome back! I've missed your commentary. Do you still live in Georgia?
Thanks, John. I'm still here in Georgia.
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2015, 07:49:23 AM
Thanks, John. I'm still here in Georgia.
Excellent, so shipping you something will be quite easy. ;)
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2015, 07:50:09 AM
Young's cycle is good, and worth a listen for the original 2nd, 3rd and 8th. But better performances of them all are out there. Not essential, I agree with.I'm still trying to learn to like the 4th. :( Anything from Teldec, EMI, Virgin, Naxos type labels, most of Sony would be available.
I'll have to look at the NML to see what's available. Any good 4th's you've listened to lately? And has Honeck's become available yet?
Honeck's comes out in February (but here's a long excerpt! (https://soundcloud.com/reference-recordings)), as does a live double album of Jansons/Concertgebouw in B6/7!
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2015, 07:57:11 AM
Excellent, so shipping you something will be quite easy. ;)
Yes! Send me stuff! ;D
In fact, I'm collecting a large amount of CDs I'm either going to sell or trade, need to reduce some clutter.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 29, 2015, 08:01:49 AM
I'm still trying to learn to like the 4th. :( Anything from Teldec, EMI, Virgin, Naxos type labels, most of Sony would be available.
Honeck's comes out in February (but here's a long excerpt! (https://soundcloud.com/reference-recordings)), as does a live double album of Jansons/Concertgebouw in B6/7!
Perhaps you should try a more subjective approach to the 4th, like that of Venzago's. Which is on Spotify.
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2015, 08:14:36 AM
Perhaps you should try a more subjective approach to the 4th, like that of Venzago's. Which is on Spotify.I'm going with Heinz Rogner's because I know he's a fairly fast classicist. Venzago will be my next attempt, but so far wow is Rogner working for me.
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2015, 08:24:17 AM
Yes! Send me stuff! ;D
In fact, I'm collecting a large amount of CDs I'm either going to sell or trade, need to reduce some clutter.
I hear you, Greg. I need to start culling my collection as well. Of course, I won't get rid of anything by favorite composers or composers in my top 20.
Post by: The new erato on January 29, 2015, 08:25:17 AM
I hear you, Greg. I need to start culling my collection as well. Of course, I won't get rid of anything by favorite composers or composers in my top 20.Which really is the top 100 since it changes all the time.
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2015, 08:26:58 AM
Which really is the top 100 since it changes all the time.
:P
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 29, 2015, 08:28:14 AM
I need to start culling my collection as well.
Think, lad. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Think Schnittke ;D ;)
Sarge
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 29, 2015, 08:31:26 AM
Post by: Wanderer on January 29, 2015, 08:51:23 AM
I'm still trying to learn to like the 4th. :(
Alas, these things rarely happen via willpower. When it clicks, it clicks. Have you tried Wand, Böhm or Harnoncourt?
Honeck's comes out in February (but here's a long excerpt! (https://soundcloud.com/reference-recordings))l
Thankfully for my wallet, this doesn't sound remotely as good as his previous releases.
Post by: Ken B on January 29, 2015, 02:12:48 PM
I hear you, Greg. I need to start culling my collection as well. Of course, I won't get rid of anything by ... composers in my top 20.That eliminates 200 composers. What's left?
Post by: Mirror Image on January 29, 2015, 06:31:10 PM
Think, lad. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Think Schnittke ;D ;)
Sarge
:P Very wise words, Mr. Sarge. I hope I don't make that same error twice! ;D
Post by: André on January 30, 2015, 04:49:57 PM
Alas, these things rarely happen via willpower. When it clicks, it clicks. Have you tried Wand, Böhm or Harnoncourt?
Is that a question or a suggestion ? ;)
Post by: Wanderer on January 31, 2015, 12:08:33 AM
Is that a question or a suggestion ? ;)
Both. ;)
Post by: EigenUser on January 31, 2015, 03:34:11 AM
:P Very wise words, Mr. Sarge. I hope I don't make that same error twice! ;DDo tell what happened with Schnittke...
You have such a scandalous, precarious relationship with favorite composers... >:D ;D ;)
Post by: North Star on January 31, 2015, 03:40:26 AM
Do tell what happened with Schnittke...The greatest purge since Stalin. :laugh:
John got rid of most (if not all, I don't remember) of his Schnittke recordings, and later gave his music another shot, along with his bank account. ::)
Post by: EigenUser on January 31, 2015, 03:41:52 AM
The greatest purge since Stalin. :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
John got rid of most (if not all, I don't remember) of his Schnittke recordings, and later gave his music another shot, along with his bank account. ::)
That's hilarious.
Post by: Mirror Image on January 31, 2015, 07:44:17 AM
Do tell what happened with Schnittke...
You have such a scandalous, precarious relationship with favorite composers... >:D ;D ;)
:) As Karlo rightfully pointed out, I gave 'most,' not all, of my Schnittke recordings away, which was foolish, but the recordings I kept gave me a new appreciation for the composer once I decided to take on his music again. Yes, my bank account got pummeled, but you live, you learn. :)
Post by: Jo498 on January 31, 2015, 07:53:55 AM
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 31, 2015, 09:56:27 AM
:) As Karlo rightfully pointed out, I gave 'most,' not all, of my Schnittke recordings away, which was foolish, but the recordings I kept gave me a new appreciation for the composer once I decided to take on his music again. Yes, my bank account got pummeled, but you live, you learn. :)
However, credit must be given to John for creating a new Schnittke fan. ;D
Post by: Ken B on January 31, 2015, 12:40:13 PM
:) As Karlo rightfully pointed out, I gave 'most,' not all, of my Schnittke recordings away, which was foolish, but the recordings I kept gave me a new appreciation for the composer once I decided to take on his music again. Yes, my bank account got pummeled, but you live, you learn. :)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
That's hilarious.
John learned from his mistake, Nate though continues to buy Boulez ...
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 31, 2015, 12:44:42 PM
John learned from his mistake, Nate though continues to buy Boulez ...
We can't laugh at him, though, not now, not until he gives away all his Boulez to charity ;D
Sarge
Post by: Florestan on January 31, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
We can't laugh at him, though, not now, not until he gives away all his Boulez to charity ;D
Giving away Boulez is not charity, but cruelty. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Ken B on January 31, 2015, 01:17:39 PM
We can't laugh at him, though, not now, not until he gives away all his Boulez to charity ;D
Sarge
Nate is not so cruel.
Post by: Ken B on January 31, 2015, 01:18:09 PM
Giving away Boulez is not charity, but cruelty. ;D ;D ;D
Ha! Great minds.
Post by: Henk on February 01, 2015, 10:59:37 AM
Post by: Bogey on February 01, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
Where is Mn Dave? He cancelled his account..
He posted on his Facebook about three hours ago. Seems to be just taking a break as he usually does.
Post by: Henk on February 03, 2015, 07:16:35 AM
Will keep on lurking a bit. Maybe keep on posting in the Jazz new releases thread.
Post by: Cato on February 03, 2015, 07:35:49 AM
I have nothing to say. :D
That has not stopped me! ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 03, 2015, 08:00:48 AM
Post by: Mirror Image on February 03, 2015, 09:53:16 AM
That has not stopped me! ;)
:P +1
Post by: Ken B on February 03, 2015, 10:07:28 AM
I'm gonna leave this forum for a while. I have nothing to say. :D And only posting about what I'm listening I think is a bit stupid.
Will keep on lurking a bit. Maybe keep on posting in the Jazz new releases thread.
Don't go! I was counting on you to bring the anti-Gurrelieder faction up to 2! I know you're an Elgar skeptic, and we can ill afford to lose any of those either.
(I suppose it's too much to hope you're a La Mer doubter?)
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on February 03, 2015, 11:14:41 AM
(I suppose it's too much to hope you're a La Mer doubter?)
Hey! I'm not gonna take that sitting down! It's time for my nap anyway.
Post by: Henk on February 03, 2015, 11:23:52 AM
Don't go! I was counting on you to bring the anti-Gurrelieder faction up to 2! I know you're an Elgar skeptic, and we can ill afford to lose any of those either.
(I suppose it's too much to hope you're a La Mer doubter?)
Ok, so true. I avoid anything by Debussy and Ravel. :) Elgar, never heard but he's an late-romantic composer and I have bad experiences with anything late-romantic.
A video to please Karl :):
https://www.youtube.com/v/qNdirDqjpgk&list=PLgipZmrFdCvL29xshFngjhMrjOiSHZqAo
"You talk an awful lot for having nothing to say"
Post by: Gurn Blanston on February 03, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
Don't go! I was counting on you to bring the anti-Gurrelieder faction up to 2! I know you're an Elgar skeptic, and we can ill afford to lose any of those either.
(I suppose it's too much to hope you're a La Mer doubter?)
Ken, you should have assumed that I can always be counted on for the important stuff... 0:)
8)
Post by: Ken B on February 03, 2015, 12:12:26 PM
Ken, you should have assumed that I can always be counted on for the important stuff... 0:)
8)
I didn't want to presume. :D
Post by: Ken B on February 03, 2015, 12:13:59 PM
Hey! I'm not gonna take that sitting down! It's time for my nap anyway.
I knew it! Even Z7, EVEN Z7, you say "La Mer" and he needs a nap.
Post by: The new erato on February 03, 2015, 12:16:52 PM
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on February 03, 2015, 04:33:21 PM
....or a nappie.....
Nappy or nappie
Just make it snappy.
The puns 'round here
Are getting crappy.
And so's the poesy.
Post by: Cato on February 03, 2015, 04:56:24 PM
Nappy or nappie
Just make it snappy.
The puns 'round here
Are getting crappy.
And so's the poesy.
Our posies are poetic,
And not really too pathetic,
But maybe apathetic,
Since they cannot be kinetic,
And yet not anesthetic,
Because they aren't poppies!
And wait a few weeks if you want some poppies: our Labrador Retriever is pregnant! ???
Post by: Ken B on February 03, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
Nappy or nappie
Just make it snappy.
The puns 'round here
Are getting crappy.
And so's the poesy.
The flagon with the dragon
Has the brew that is true
http://youtu.be/TJ9f2rnjB84
The flagon with the dragon comes later
http://www.filmsite.org/cour.html (http://www.filmsite.org/cour.html)
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on February 04, 2015, 10:08:31 AM
The flagon with the dragon
Has the brew that is true
http://youtu.be/TJ9f2rnjB84
The flagon with the dragon comes later
http://www.filmsite.org/cour.html (http://www.filmsite.org/cour.html)
and from Cato : Our posies are poetic,
And not really too pathetic...
Now that's lyric poetry at its finest! :)
Post by: Cato on February 04, 2015, 10:26:08 AM
and from Cato : Our posies are poetic,
And not really too pathetic...
Now that's lyric poetry at its finest! :)
Heh-heh!
The flagon with the dragon
Has the brew that is true
Don't forget the chalice with the palace or the vessel with the pestle! ???
Post by: Ken B on February 04, 2015, 10:38:13 AM
Heh-heh!
Don't forget the chalice with the palace or the vessel with the pestle! ???
Don't forget the pellet with the poison!!!
Post by: aukhawk on February 06, 2015, 01:49:52 AM
The Gateau from the Chateau (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Q83AeyYxs)
Post by: Beaumarchais on February 08, 2015, 11:35:04 AM
It's most noticeable when long-standing members disappear of course but I imagine it's something that affects forums in general. l'm hoping to be around for a long time.'
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 08, 2015, 03:48:38 PM
Post by: Ken B on February 21, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 21, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
Don't forget the chalice with the palace or the vessel with the pestle! ???I memorized this when I was a kid. I first watched it with my brother as kids. I was laughing so hard at this movie (and this part in particular) that I must have been crying in hysterics. Of course the question of the Doge, the Duke and the Dutchess and the matter of the dirk is a close second.
The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle while the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true.
But they broke the chalice from the palace.
So now the pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon, while the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true.
Of course, that doesn't make sense, because if the vessel has the poison, it doesn't matter that the chalice broke. Nonetheless, hilarious.
Post by: Mirror Image on February 21, 2015, 09:33:08 PM
Z7
Yes, I wonder where Zauber has been? Most curious.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on February 22, 2015, 08:09:18 AM
Yes, I wonder where Zauber has been? Most curious.
Well, it's only been 2 weeks (2/8). and his last post didn't indicate being pissed, so I figure either vacation or else sobering up after a prolonged buying spree. I learned that second one from watching you, John. :D :D
8)
Post by: Moonfish on February 22, 2015, 08:44:35 AM
Well, it's only been 2 weeks (2/8). and his last post didn't indicate being pissed, so I figure either vacation or else sobering up after a prolonged buying spree. I learned that second one from watching you, John. :D :D
8)
He was doing a month long Wagner marathon (Sony box). No wonder he needs a break!!!! ;) ;) ;)
Alternatively, he is still listening to Lohengrin! :P
Post by: Ken B on February 22, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
He was doing a month long Wagner marathon (Sony box). No wonder he needs a break!!!! ;) ;) ;)I fear he added both La Mer and Elgar's 1st to his playlist and is now comatose. >:D
Alternatively, he is still listening to Lohengrin! :P
Post by: Mirror Image on February 22, 2015, 07:40:08 PM
Well, it's only been 2 weeks (2/8). and his last post didn't indicate being pissed, so I figure either vacation or else sobering up after a prolonged buying spree. I learned that second one from watching you, John. :D :D
8)
Hah! :P
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 23, 2015, 03:59:40 AM
He was doing a month long Wagner marathon (Sony box).
I fear the worst . . . .
Post by: Wanderer on February 23, 2015, 04:27:30 AM
I fear the worst . . . .
Standing in line for Bayreuth tickets?! :o
Post by: Cato on February 23, 2015, 05:03:32 AM
He was doing a month long Wagner marathon (Sony box). No wonder he needs a break!!!! ;) ;) ;)
Alternatively, he is still listening to Lohengrin! :P
I fear the worst . . . .
Did no one dial 9-11?! ;)
I do recall spending long, long afternoons listening to e.g. Goetterdaemmerung with the score: both the Solti and the von Karajan performances. And yet, here I am, healthy and happy! ;)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 23, 2015, 05:36:06 AM
Post by: Ken B on February 24, 2015, 06:05:20 AM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 24, 2015, 06:09:21 AM
Post by: NJ Joe on March 15, 2015, 08:54:01 AM
Not that anyone missed me, but I have returned after about a 5 month layoff. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in September, 2014, which significantly curtailed my activity in many things, forum posting included. I began having problems mid-July, which culminated in a biopsy in early September. By the time of the actual diagnosis two weeks later, I was prepared for the worst. Strange as it may sound, I actually felt relieved in finally knowing where I stood. The month or so leading up to the diagnosis (not knowing) was awful.
Anyway, I underwent surgery on December 1, (a radical prostatectomy), and having been recovering since. The entire process was rougher than I expected, but I'm progressing slowly but steadily. I returned to work after a 5 week layoff, but could have easily taken more time. Unfortunately, disability insurance SUCKS, and I have a family to support. The biggest challenge has been to regain my stamina.
On Tuesday March 17, I go for my first 3 month follow-up, and I'm being cautiously confident.
Yours truly,
NJ Joe
Post by: The new erato on March 15, 2015, 10:25:21 AM
Hello,Good luck to you and thanks for being so candid.
Not that anyone missed me, but I have returned after about a 5 month layoff. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in September, 2014, which significantly curtailed my activity in many things, forum posting included. I began having problems mid-July, which culminated in a biopsy in early September. By the time of the actual diagnosis two weeks later, I was prepared for the worst. Strange as it may sound, I actually felt relieved in finally knowing where I stood. The month or so leading up to the diagnosis (not knowing) was awful.
Anyway, I underwent surgery on December 1, (a radical prostatectomy), and having been recovering since. The entire process was rougher than I expected, but I'm progressing slowly but steadily. I returned to work after a 5 week layoff, but could have easily taken more time. Unfortunately, disability insurance SUCKS, and I have a family to support. The biggest challenge has been to regain my stamina.
On Tuesday March 17, I go for my first 3 month follow-up, and I'm being cautiously confident.
Yours truly,
NJ Joe
Post by: Gurn Blanston on March 15, 2015, 10:28:33 AM
Music helps to maintain a good attitude, which is crucial to your efforts. Hope you have time to relax and listen now and then...
Regards,
GB 8)
Post by: Cato on March 15, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
Anyway, I underwent surgery on December 1, (a radical prostatectomy), and having been recovering since...
Ouch! As part of your therapy, the complete symphonies of Anton Bruckner are prescribed! ;)
Post by: North Star on March 15, 2015, 11:01:19 AM
Ouch! As part of your therapy, the complete symphonies of Anton Bruckner are prescribed! ;)An aesthetic anaesthetic?
Post by: Cato on March 15, 2015, 11:54:49 AM
An aesthetic anaesthetic?
An aesthetic energetic! 0:)
Post by: NJ Joe on March 15, 2015, 12:04:00 PM
Good luck to you and thanks for being so candid.
Thank you and you're welcome! It's therapeutic for me to talk about it, now that the surgery's done.
It was very difficult to talk about in the time leading up to the surgery.
Post by: NJ Joe on March 15, 2015, 12:11:18 PM
Best wishes, Joe. I know several people who have had this condition to deal with, with varying degrees of success in recovery. I'm hoping you will be one of the success stories, we need more of those.
Music helps to maintain a good attitude, which is crucial to your efforts. Hope you have time to relax and listen now and then...
Regards,
GB 8)
Thank you, sir. I totally agree with you. A positive attitude is essential, and music helps in a way that is beyond description. My doc says my prognosis is excellent. Let's hope he's right!
Post by: NJ Joe on March 15, 2015, 12:13:16 PM
Ouch! As part of your therapy, the complete symphonies of Anton Bruckner are prescribed! ;)
Yes, thank you! I'm on it!
Post by: NJ Joe on March 15, 2015, 12:14:12 PM
Good luck with the cancer, Joe.
An aesthetic anaesthetic?
Thank you!
Post by: Mirror Image on March 15, 2015, 02:37:31 PM
Hello,
Not that anyone missed me, but I have returned after about a 5 month layoff. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in September, 2014, which significantly curtailed my activity in many things, forum posting included. I began having problems mid-July, which culminated in a biopsy in early September. By the time of the actual diagnosis two weeks later, I was prepared for the worst. Strange as it may sound, I actually felt relieved in finally knowing where I stood. The month or so leading up to the diagnosis (not knowing) was awful.
Anyway, I underwent surgery on December 1, (a radical prostatectomy), and having been recovering since. The entire process was rougher than I expected, but I'm progressing slowly but steadily. I returned to work after a 5 week layoff, but could have easily taken more time. Unfortunately, disability insurance SUCKS, and I have a family to support. The biggest challenge has been to regain my stamina.
On Tuesday March 17, I go for my first 3 month follow-up, and I'm being cautiously confident.
Yours truly,
NJ Joe
I'm terribly sorry to learn of this, Joe. I hope for a speedy recovery. Take care of yourself.
Post by: NJ Joe on March 15, 2015, 03:56:34 PM
I'm terribly sorry to learn of this, Joe. I hope for a speedy recovery. Take care of yourself.
Thank you MI, much appreciated!
Post by: Sammy on March 15, 2015, 04:54:12 PM
Thank you and you're welcome! It's therapeutic for me to talk about it, now that the surgery's done.
It was very difficult to talk about in the time leading up to the surgery.
The same thing happened with me. I didn't want to talk to anyone about it. Just wanted to concentrate on getting myself into the right frame of mind - be strong and beat it. All is fine now, and I hope the same for you.
Post by: NJ Joe on March 15, 2015, 05:50:06 PM
The same thing happened with me. I didn't want to talk to anyone about it. Just wanted to concentrate on getting myself into the right frame of mind - be strong and beat it. All is fine now, and I hope the same for you.
Thank you Sammy, glad to hear all is fine with you!
Post by: Cato on April 25, 2015, 01:11:00 PM
I have written to her by e-mail now and then, since she joined: right now she is in Vienna. Recent e-mails have returned, as if her account is gone. The account here also seems to be defunct.
Sad: we need more women here, especially for Snyppr! 0:)
Post by: North Star on April 25, 2015, 01:20:33 PM
Post by: kishnevi on April 25, 2015, 01:21:59 PM
Phrygian, a lady from Australia, seems to have disappeared.
I have written to her by e-mail now and then, since she joined: right now she is in Vienna. Recent e-mails have returned, as if her account is gone. The account here also seems to be defunct.
Sad: we need more women here, especially for Snyppr! 0:)
She apparently took umbrage over this thread
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,24190.msg886053.html#msg886053
Post by: Que on April 25, 2015, 01:40:05 PM
Phrygian, a lady from Australia, seems to have disappeared.
I have written to her by e-mail now and then, since she joined: right now she is in Vienna. Recent e-mails have returned, as if her account is gone. The account here also seems to be defunct.
Sad: we need more women here, especially for Snyppr! 0:)
Well, just a quick glance at threads like The Men's Rights Movement, The Dating Thread and More Girl Problems should be more than sufficient to make any sane woman run for the exit.... ::) :laugh:
But as pointed out, there were different circumstances at play....
Q
Post by: Moonfish on April 25, 2015, 01:46:43 PM
She apparently took umbrage over this thread
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,24190.msg886053.html#msg886053
It is common sense to stay off the topic of politics here at GMG.....
I'm sorry to see that Phrygian decided to leave after experiencing the ridiculous heat of a meaningless virtual debate. It reminds me of Discobolus leaving for a similar reason. Moderators: It think it is a disgrace that these types of topics trigger a loss of valuable members here at GMG.
Post by: Cato on April 25, 2015, 02:25:35 PM
It is common sense to stay off the topic of politics here at GMG.....
I'm sorry to see that Phrygian decided to leave after experiencing the ridiculous heat of a meaningless virtual debate. It reminds me of Discobolus leaving for a similar reason. Moderators: It think it is a disgrace that these types of topics trigger a loss of valuable members here at GMG.
What I find regrettable is that she seems to have deleted her contact with me on regular e-mail.
Of course, I did send her some of my writings...in some cases, after doing that, I never heard from the other person ever again! :D
Post by: Moonfish on April 25, 2015, 02:31:34 PM
What I find regrettable is that she seems to have deleted her contact with me on regular e-mail.
Of course, I did send her some of my writings...in some cases, after doing that, I never heard from the other person ever again! :D
;)
Post by: North Star on April 25, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
It is common sense to stay off the topic of politics here at GMG.....I don't know what you mean by disgrace, Peter? These two members have a history of intolerance here, and Discobolus himself drove members away from GMG (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=20101.0). They are the ones that should have kept away from those subjects, and I don't think the Diner discussions should be more strictly controlled just to avoid a few broken nuts.
I'm sorry to see that Phrygian decided to leave after experiencing the ridiculous heat of a meaningless virtual debate. It reminds me of Discobolus leaving for a similar reason. Moderators: It think it is a disgrace that these types of topics trigger a loss of valuable members here at GMG.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 25, 2015, 03:05:45 PM
It is common sense to stay off the topic of politics here at GMG.....
I'm sorry to see that Phrygian decided to leave after experiencing the ridiculous heat of a meaningless virtual debate. It reminds me of Discobolus leaving for a similar reason. Moderators: It think it is a disgrace that these types of topics trigger a loss of valuable members here at GMG.
Moon,
So do I, but look at the subject of the topic: Who will replace Rattle at the BPO? If we disallow that, what is the future of any discussion at all? ???
8)
Post by: Moonfish on April 25, 2015, 03:48:14 PM
I don't know what you mean by disgrace, Peter? These two members have a history of intolerance here, and Discobolus himself drove members away from GMG (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=20101.0). They are the ones that should have kept away from those subjects, and I don't think the Diner discussions should be more strictly controlled just to avoid a few broken nuts.
I just find it sad, since these members had wonderful things to say about music. I do miss Discobolus's posts.
Post by: Ken B on April 25, 2015, 03:49:31 PM
Post by: Moonfish on April 25, 2015, 03:50:14 PM
Moon,
So do I, but look at the subject of the topic: Who will replace Rattle at the BPO? If we disallow that, what is the future of any discussion at all? ???
8)
You are right! I was also wondering how the original topic took such a sinister turn! :o
It is always a good idea to turn away from the feeding frenzy of the virtual boards. 0:)
Post by: mc ukrneal on April 25, 2015, 04:04:57 PM
Might as well piss everyone off. I think Phrygian was treated badly, and I think several here, whom I mentioned before so won't name again, endorsed rather low tactics simply because her opinions are unfashionable and unPC. I don't mean to imply she was guiltless in the exchanges, as she most certainly wasn't, or that her arguments were good, only that she was swarmed. And there are few things I admire less than a swarm.You may be right, but you have been part of a swarm (albeit a smaller one). So I am slightly confused.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 25, 2015, 04:11:51 PM
Sorry for our Cato, though 8)
Post by: Ken B on April 25, 2015, 04:12:12 PM
You may be right, but you have been part of a swarm (albeit a smaller one). So I am slightly confused.
I don't think you were swarmed, and I don't think the criticisms of what you said -- which might differ from what you meant I acknowledge -- were personal. Certainly no-one called you a racist or hinted about nazi sympathies expressed in code.
Post by: Jo498 on April 25, 2015, 10:52:11 PM
But in the Berlin Philharmonic thread she repeatedly ignored not only the main thread topic but told people off who had lived (or were still living) in Germany/Europe for decades because she thought she knew everything better after spending a few months on holiday there.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Post by: Pat B on April 28, 2015, 10:26:37 AM
I am sorry that she left but Phrygian was clearly de-railing that thread. There are other threads (as mentioned "Men's rights" etc.) where "non-PC" opinions are freely expressed and discussed.
But in the Berlin Philharmonic thread she repeatedly ignored not only the main thread topic but told people off who had lived (or were still living) in Germany/Europe for decades because she thought she knew everything better after spending a few months on holiday there.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
The original post in that topic gives the distinct impression that for her, the BPO search was largely a pretext for another one of her political rants. Some of the responders eventually weren't very polite, but neither was she.
So I would say that she wasn't just in the kitchen; she built the fire and then poured gasoline on it. I don't have much sympathy for that. That goes for Discobole too, as much as I appreciated his music-related posts. (Just to be clear, I would welcome both of them back. I'm just not sympathetic over their departures.)
Post by: Mirror Image on April 30, 2015, 07:36:03 AM
Post by: Moonfish on April 30, 2015, 02:53:49 PM
Haven't seen him here for a long time!
Post by: kishnevi on April 30, 2015, 06:23:26 PM
And where is Octave...? :(
Haven't seen him here for a long time!
As I understand it, a combination of other interests and the need to keep to his CD buying budget made it prudent to stay away from the temptations on offer here.
Post by: (: premont :) on May 01, 2015, 11:08:50 AM
Well, just a quick glance at threads like The Men's Rights Movement, The Dating Thread and More Girl Problems should be more than sufficient to make any sane woman run for the exit.... ::) :laugh:
Yes, I certainly do not envy you (moderators), who - dutifully - have to read those threads. :)
Post by: EigenUser on May 02, 2015, 12:55:38 AM
A shame he couldn't be nicer to people. We seemed to have very similar musical tastes, apart from most of the Stockhausen stuff. He fueled my recent fascination with the Tippett PC, too.
Post by: North Star on May 02, 2015, 02:06:16 AM
I don't think it's a matter of niceness, having seen James respond with courtesy even when being abused in an apparently ritual fashion i.e. because it's James. The problem is the need to be right all the time, which is in most cases a worthless pursuit, no more so than in matters of individual taste. Hence all the threads dealing with whether this or that work or composer is or is not "the greatest", "a masterpiece", or whatever. As if it were not enough just to like something. It's a fragile perception that depends on the agreement of others.
Yes, we all remember James' courtesy. :)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/6035526169_6493c23b91_z.jpg)
Post by: Cato on May 02, 2015, 02:19:20 AM
Did James leave?
Incredible! He just wrote all kinds of things a few days ago, I thought. He was such a disciple for Stockhausen and other experimental types.
Post by: chadfeldheimer on May 02, 2015, 02:37:36 AM
Yes, we all remember James' courtesy. :)Yes he could be quite confrontational some times (some reactions to his posts weren't either the most polite), but I also agree with Soapy Molly that he could also be quite courteous, depending on his mood I think.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/6035526169_6493c23b91_z.jpg)
Post by: The new erato on May 02, 2015, 02:41:34 AM
I don't think it's a matter of niceness, having seen James respond with courtesy even when being abused in an apparently ritual fashion i.e. because it's James. The problem is the need to be right all the time, which is in most cases a worthless pursuit, no more so than in matters of individual taste. Hence all the threads dealing with whether this or that work or composer is or is not "the greatest", "a masterpiece", or whatever. As if it were not enough just to like something. It's a fragile perception that depends on the agreement of others.I agree, and I will miss his posts. He was arrogant (as in always right) but when you got past that also insightful and corteous.
Post by: mc ukrneal on May 02, 2015, 03:49:41 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 02, 2015, 04:10:36 AM
We deal with James far more than any of you do, and the constant barrage of needling, like picadors with a bull, doesn't make it any simpler, since he is right to be irritated.
Why don't we call a moratorium on all that? If you want to interact in a positive manner on the level of music, then by all means do so. Otherwise, take the high road and if you are piqued by something he writes, then get over it and move on.
Thanks,
GB 8)
Post by: Brewski on May 02, 2015, 04:37:49 AM
Yes, I certainly do not envy you (moderators), who - dutifully - have to read those threads. :)
Thanks for this (also speaking as a moderator). Though I confess that sometimes - mostly for time reasons lately - I'm doing no more than skimming them, making sure the participants haven't annihilated each other. 8)
And re: James, I don't have much to add to what Gurn wrote. No, I'm not the biggest fan of James's style, but - as with a few others here - it's less annoying (not to mention, less time-consuming) just to ignore, rather than incite. GMG has become a rather large (!) community, not to mention, a rather diverse one, and just like any small city, there's no guarantee that all its citizens will get along.
In any case, it's good to pause now and then, and realize that - for better or worse - people who love classical music are a pretty small subset of the population at large. The other night on Jeopardy, contestants were avoiding the "Czech Composers" category like the plague, since I'm pretty sure they didn't know much about them. ;D (And those of us who like Stockhausen - or contemporary music in general - are an even smaller club. ;D)
But it's that love of the art form that makes people want to discuss it - most of the time very passionately - and the thing many of us have in common.
--Bruce
Post by: Ken B on May 02, 2015, 04:38:27 AM
Did James leave?
A shame he couldn't be nicer to people. We seemed to have very similar musical tastes, apart from most of the Stockhausen stuff. He fueled my recent fascination with the Tippett PC, too.
Did Eigenuser leave? I ask because James was last active today, and so was Nate.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on May 02, 2015, 04:40:16 AM
Post by: Ken B on May 02, 2015, 04:44:21 AM
James got the most grief not for his taste but for his principled position that some stuff is shit and some is not.
People who would pillory him for stating this explicitly would then go on in other contexts to evince the same belief.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2015, 04:46:47 AM
Post by: Ken B on May 02, 2015, 04:55:39 AM
Well, one makes oneself amusing by staking that claim, and pointing to a steaming musical artifact and claiming Ceci n'est pas la merde. 8)
Oh, I agree with you about that! But you can be right about a principle and wrong about a composition.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 04:59:43 AM
My 2c
James got the most grief not for his taste but for his principled position that some stuff is shit and some is not.
People who would pillory him for stating this explicitly would then go on in other contexts to evince the same belief.
Well, exactly. As Schumann once wrote, the critic who is afraid to attack something bad is only a half-hearted supporter of something good.
I've always felt this stance we take here of "discuss your favorites, but don't say if it's great or not, because that might offend someone (and we can't have that)" is totally phony. Who's going to actually admit to liking music they think is crap?
If good old James is gone, I for one am going to miss him. Despite his deaf spots towards Mozart and Beethoven, and his excessive devotion to the later Stockhausen, he was never namby-pamby about his beliefs, and in my opinion he was fundamentally right most of the time about contemporary music. And yes, some stuff people like here is shit.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 02, 2015, 05:15:26 AM
James got the most grief not for his taste but for his principled position that some stuff is shit and some is not.
And yet I found that amusing rather than provocative. Everyone here has some variation of the same behavior. James is just shamelessly blatant about it. Knowing this, and knowing its object, most people should be able to have a grin and move on. We art music lovers are superior beings, remember? :D
8)
(PS - Ken, I know you aren't picking, you just phrased it conveninetly for me)
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 05:24:20 AM
Everyone here has some variation of the same behavior. James is just shamelessly blatant about it.
Precisely, and people should not hide behind cloaks of self-righteousness by blaming James for what they do just as shamelessly themselves. If you're so weak that you can't take a little criticism of work you hold dear, then step aside and let the adults play. Perhaps the stuff you consider so "great" is not as good as you think it is, and perhaps you can learn from listening to others' comments.
After all, professional critics don't hesitate to say they think a work is worthy or not, and the world doesn't come to an end if a few sacred cows get poked here and there.
Post by: Mirror Image on May 02, 2015, 05:31:29 AM
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 05:34:09 AM
People are talking about James like he's gone. He's still registered. I'll keep my personal opinion on him short: he was fun to pick on, but I think he crossed the line whenever he personally insulted me in a truly disrespectful manner. I'm far from perfect and I have made mistakes on this forum (many times), but I've always apologized for my actions and, if I haven't, it's because I didn't know I offended someone or someone didn't let me know otherwise. If he wants to post, if doesn't wants to post makes no difference to me. He must have a heart of stone. You simply can't treat people however you want and not expect some kind of resistance.
And when did he insult you, John? Seriously, are you that thin of skin that an occasional criticism over the Internet from a total stranger is going to affect you so strongly?
Post by: Ken B on May 02, 2015, 05:35:07 AM
People are talking about James like he's gone. He's still registered. I'll keep my personal opinion on him short: he was fun to pick on, but I think he crossed the line whenever he personally insulted me in a truly disrespectful manner. I'm far from perfect and I have made mistakes on this forum (many times), but I've always apologized for my actions and, if I haven't, it's because I didn't know I offended someone or someone didn't let me know otherwise. If he wants to post, if doesn't wants to post makes no difference to me. He must have a heart of stone. You simply can't treat people however you want and not expect some kind of resistance.
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Post by: Mirror Image on May 02, 2015, 05:36:33 AM
And when did he insult you, John? Seriously, are you that thin of skin that an occasional criticism over the Internet from a total stranger is going to affect you so strongly?
You don't remember when he called me a cunt on the 'Greatest 20th Composer' poll/thread? Oh, I do have a thick skin and I can overlook almost all his 'attacks' if you want to call them that, but I thought this was out-of-line (even for him).
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 02, 2015, 05:39:25 AM
Post by: Rinaldo on May 02, 2015, 05:40:54 AM
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If good old James is gone, I for one am going to miss him. Despite his deaf spots towards Mozart and Beethoven, and his excessive devotion to the later Stockhausen, he was never namby-pamby about his beliefs
Agreed.
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and in my opinion he was fundamentally right most of the time about contemporary music.
Not agreed. That's what I find genuinely sad - when someone who's been so open minded and enthusiastic about music that was angrily dismissed by cranky elitist geezers back when it was new.. becomes one himself.
Post by: Cato on May 02, 2015, 05:45:06 AM
You don't remember when he called me...
Ouch! I never saw that: after such an insult, I would have banned him or demanded an apology. I take no prisoners on idiocies like that: such contumely shows a severe lack of imagination, as do all such cacologies.
Post by: Ken B on May 02, 2015, 05:45:19 AM
James is cool, the Walt Kowalski of this board.
Agreed.
Not agreed. That's what I find genuinely sad - when someone who's been so open minded and enthusiastic about music that was angrily dismissed by cranky elitist geezers back when it was new.. becomes one himself.
What's a Walt Kowalski?
Post by: Cato on May 02, 2015, 05:47:23 AM
What's a Walt Kowalski?
(http://s3.media.squarespace.com/production/465215/5307878/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gran-1.png)
Clint Eastwood's character in Gran Torino.
Post by: Mirror Image on May 02, 2015, 05:50:02 AM
Ouch! I never saw that: after such an insult, I would have banned him or demanded an apology. I take no prisoners on idiocies like that: such contumely shows a severe lack of imagination, as do all such cacologies.
I've seemed to have taken on this philosophy for the past year or so: whenever a person puts you down in a nasty manner, it's merely a reflection of their own character and nothing else. I wouldn't expect James to apologize for anything he's said, but the fact that he didn't exercise restraint, and disregarded my own feelings, demonstrates his lack of character and humility.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 06:24:54 AM
You don't remember when he called me a cunt on the 'Greatest 20th Composer' poll/thread? Oh, I do have a thick skin and I can overlook almost all his 'attacks' if you want to call them that, but I thought this was out-of-line (even for him).
Actually, I don't.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 06:36:04 AM
Not agreed. That's what I find genuinely sad - when someone who's been so open minded and enthusiastic about music that was angrily dismissed by cranky elitist geezers back when it was new.. becomes one himself.
So maybe he just doesn't like some of the music you like. I don't like that Ixion thing you posted by Langguard either. So what. My disliking it is not going to change your mind, nor are you going to change mine.
But what I don't get is why James, who just days ago had a post count of 9000+, now is down to just under 2000. Did he go on a mass delete binge?
Post by: chadfeldheimer on May 02, 2015, 06:39:40 AM
Why don't we call a moratorium on all that? If you want to interact in a positive manner on the level of music, then by all means do so. Otherwise, take the high road and if you are piqued by something he writes, then get over it and move on.I like that. This forum and the whole internet would be a nicer place if more people would follow these suggestions.
Post by: The new erato on May 02, 2015, 06:43:33 AM
Ouch! I never saw that.neither did I. Clearly unacceptable.
Post by: (: premont :) on May 02, 2015, 06:45:40 AM
But what I don't get is why James, who just days ago had a post count of 9000+, now is down to just under 2000. Did he go on a mass delete binge?
I suppose he has deleted the larger part of his offensive posts. ;D
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 06:45:50 AM
He's a dick.
Is that any better than being a cunt, and should you not apologize for calling James a - what was it? - "contumely that shows a severe lack of imagination, as do all such cacologies"? Or is it only reprehensible when James does it?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2015, 06:46:32 AM
Oh, I agree with you about that! But you can be right about a principle and wrong about a composition.
Bien sûr.
Precisely, and people should not hide behind cloaks of self-righteousness by blaming James for what they do just as shamelessly themselves. If you're so weak that you can't take a little criticism of work you hold dear, then step aside and let the adults play. Perhaps the stuff you consider so "great" is not as good as you think it is, and perhaps you can learn from listening to others' comments.
After all, professional critics don't hesitate to say they think a work is worthy or not, and the world doesn't come to an end if a few sacred cows get poked here and there.
Exactly! Isn't as if the professional critics were always right.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2015, 06:47:46 AM
People are talking about James like he's gone.
He'll always be gone to me 8)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2015, 06:48:47 AM
Not agreed. That's what I find genuinely sad - when someone who's been so open minded and enthusiastic about music that was angrily dismissed by cranky elitist geezers back when it was new.. becomes one himself.
Well, and part of why he was amusing is, how utterly tone-deaf he was to this.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2015, 06:49:46 AM
I wouldn't expect James to apologize for anything he's said [...]
No, his character is far too small for that.
Post by: chadfeldheimer on May 02, 2015, 06:52:58 AM
Otherwise, take the high road and if you are piqued by something he writes, then get over it and move on.
He'll always be gone to me 8)Well, that would be taking the high road I presume. ;-)
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 02, 2015, 07:01:24 AM
Is that any better than being a cunt...
A bit better, but not much.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2015, 07:05:15 AM
Well, that would be taking the high road I presume. ;-)
"We'll always have Pffffft!"
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 07:16:47 AM
A bit better, but not much.
I just find it amusing (and instructive) that when James does certain things, the membership is up in arms, his posts are deleted, it's a capital crime, I'm insulted, etc., etc.; but when something similar is done to James, no one raises an eyebrow.
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 02, 2015, 07:18:36 AM
I just find it amusing (and instructive) that when James does certain things, the membership is up in arms, his posts are deleted, it's a capital crime, I'm insulted, etc., etc.; but when something similar is done to James, no one raises an eyebrow.
No, you don't get it. He's earned all this for his years of trolling. Mostly, I just ignore him.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 07:20:20 AM
Exactly! Isn't as if the professional critics were always right.
There's no "right" or "wrong." Judgment of the value of a work or art is not provable like a theorem in math. What matters is the level of argument the critic provides. I don't, for example, agree with John Simon's opinion that Cries and Whispers is one of Ingmar Bergman's "weakest" films, but he provides a detailed review where he describes what he considers the film's problems. I think he misses the mark, but at least he's being responsible, and not just offering an offhand remark.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 07:21:57 AM
No, you don't get it. He's earned all this for his years of trolling. Mostly, I just ignore him.
No, it's you who don't get it. See Cato's #1126 above.
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 02, 2015, 07:26:01 AM
No, it's you who don't get it. See Cato's #1126 above.
I saw it.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2015, 07:40:23 AM
There's no "right" or "wrong." Judgment of the value of a work or art is not provable like a theorem in math. What matters is the level of argument the critic provides. I don't, for example, agree with John Simon's opinion that Cries and Whispers is one of Ingmar Bergman's "weakest" films, but he provides a detailed review where he describes what he considers the film's problems. I think he misses the mark, but at least he's being responsible, and not just offering an offhand remark.
Again, that's it exactly. And part of James's amusement value has been, how he feels that his opinion on a work of art or on an artist, can be taken to the bank; and how the average level of his argument is on the order of "Glenn Gould sneers at Mozart, so we know that Mozart isn't worth much."
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 07:42:20 AM
I saw it.
If standards of conduct are to be applied, then they have to be applied dispassionately, and without concern for anyone's personal feelings about a member or for that matter the member's own conduct. Otherwise they are meaningless.
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 02, 2015, 07:42:38 AM
Hellooo, James.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 02, 2015, 07:43:14 AM
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 02, 2015, 07:44:24 AM
If standards of conduct are to be applied, then they have to be applied dispassionately, and without concern for anyone's personal feelings about a member or for that matter the member's own conduct. Otherwise they are meaningless.
Sure.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 07:45:07 AM
I'm certain he loves all this attention. He's probably laughing his head off.
Hellooo, James.
That may or may not be the case. Every one of us who has participated in this discussion bears some responsibility for keeping it up, not least yourself or myself.
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 02, 2015, 05:17:47 PM
No, you don't get it. He's earned all this for his years of trolling. Mostly, I just ignore him.
Exact-a-mundo.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 02, 2015, 05:29:23 PM
Exact-a-mundo.
My response to you is the same as to MNDave earlier today.
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 02, 2015, 06:01:26 PM
My response to you is the same as to MNDave earlier today.
And I'm just as unconvinced as Dave, et al... :D
Post by: Brian on May 02, 2015, 06:46:14 PM
So long as James makes non-abusive posts, he should be welcome to the community. Period. And if he steps over those lines, there's no reason for us to abuse him back.
Post by: Mirror Image on May 02, 2015, 07:29:59 PM
I don't understand why James's past transgressions "deserve" to be punished by people abusing him with insults. Are we all going Old Testament here, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth? What happened to trying to stand above a conflict? Or trying to resolve it?
So long as James makes non-abusive posts, he should be welcome to the community. Period. And if he steps over those lines, there's no reason for us to abuse him back.
Oh dear....apparently you've never been on the receiving end of his personal attacks. Trying to stand above a conflict? Trying to resolve it? Have you ever even dealt with James before, Brian? It was his opinion or no opinion at all. You can't reason with a brick wall.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 01:50:51 AM
Oh dear....apparently you've never been on the receiving end of his personal attacks. Trying to stand above a conflict? Trying to resolve it? Have you ever even dealt with James before, Brian? It was his opinion or no opinion at all. You can't reason with a brick wall.
Rise above it. You're granting him far too much power.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 01:52:43 AM
I don't understand why James's past transgressions "deserve" to be punished by people abusing him with insults. Are we all going Old Testament here, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth? What happened to trying to stand above a conflict? Or trying to resolve it?
So long as James makes non-abusive posts, he should be welcome to the community. Period. And if he steps over those lines, there's no reason for us to abuse him back.
Well, that's basically what I said. But MN Dave and Dancing are "unconvinced."
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 03, 2015, 03:44:18 AM
Post by: Ken B on May 03, 2015, 04:40:32 AM
He's delivered HUNDREDS of insults. He can take one back. :) Man, get over it.
I am, as can be seen above, with poco on this topic, but Dave is right about this. First thing James said to me was to call me an idiot.
Possibly in reply to my post saying "Hello." ;)
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 04:41:30 AM
He's delivered HUNDREDS of insults. He can take one back. :) Man, get over it.
I assure you I am "over it," whatever that means, and that l'affaire James is of no importance to me one way or the other. But it's amusing to point out how some people have no hesitation in employing the same tactics towards James that they complain of in him.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 04:42:13 AM
I am, as can be seen above, with poco on this topic, but Dave is right about this. First thing James said to me was to call me an idiot.
Possibly in reply to my post saying "Hello." ;)
QED; you can hardly blame him.
(And I hope a smiley is not necessary, but you never know with this crowd.) ;D
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 03, 2015, 04:46:11 AM
I assure you I am "over it," whatever that means, and that l'affaire James is of no importance to me one way or the other. But it's amusing to point out how some people have no hesitation in employing the same tactics towards James that they complain of in him.
If you see me using this tactic repeatedly (like James did), please let me know.
"...whatever that means..." See, you do the same thing, only more subtly. :D
Post by: Ken B on May 03, 2015, 04:50:01 AM
QED; you can hardly blame him.
(And I hope a smiley is not necessary, but you never know with this crowd.) ;D
A smiley would hurt the joke. I always place the joke first. (And if that means James gets a seat ahead of me I can live with it. ;D )
Post by: Que on May 03, 2015, 04:54:10 AM
I am, as can be seen above, with poco on this topic, but Dave is right about this. First thing James said to me was to call me an idiot.
Possibly in reply to my post saying "Hello." ;)
Some men of a certain age, have issues…. ::)
As a member, I just avoid anyone that generates unpleasantness. No matter how interesting their posts sometimes are.
Of course in my role as a moderator things are different….
Q
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 04:56:08 AM
If you see me using this tactic repeatedly (like James did), please let me know.
"...whatever that means..." See, you do the same thing, only more subtly. :D
Of course. But subtlety is everything.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 04:56:38 AM
A smiley would hurt the joke. I always place the joke first. (And if that means James gets a seat ahead of me I can live with it. ;D )
Quite right. Forgive me for not trusting you.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 05:31:36 AM
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 03, 2015, 05:52:12 AM
We all have our shortcomings, and no one should ever mind being insulted so long as it's done with style.
Oh, I don't agree with this at all. Either you allow insults or you don't.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 06:03:45 AM
Oh, I don't agree with this at all. Either you allow insults or you don't.
Such as saying James is a dick? ;)
Post by: Mirror Image on May 03, 2015, 06:04:25 AM
I don't mind someone joking around with me and calling me 'idiot' or whatever as long as I know it's all in good fun, but the vindictiveness of his last post to me indicates he had no tact and, most of all, no class whatsoever. I'm frankly surprised that some people here are actually defending him. He trolled on this board all the time and I ignored him (most of the time) but any kind of reason I brought to the table when we did interact was pointless. I certainly will not miss him and I'm happy he 'left' (even though he's still registered).
Post by: Jubal Slate on May 03, 2015, 06:06:49 AM
Such as saying James is a dick? ;)
Exactly.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on May 03, 2015, 06:08:18 AM
One final post about James:
I don't mind someone joking around with me and calling me 'idiot' or whatever as long as I know it's all in good fun, but the vindictiveness of his last post to me indicates he had no tact and, most of all, no class whatsoever. I'm frankly surprised that some people here are actually defending him. He trolled on this board all the time and I ignored him (most of the time) but any kind of reason I brought to the table when we did interact was pointless. I certainly will not miss him and I'm happy he 'left' (even though he's still registered).
Not defending him. Kidding around with a sense of style is one thing, heavy-handed vindictiveness another. He never really bothered me personally, but then I generally stood up to him on the few occasions we clashed.
Oh, I am so over this.
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 03, 2015, 07:31:03 AM
Well, that's basically what I said. But MN Dave and Dancing are "unconvinced."
If it's your contention that I must be convinced then.....wait, what were we talking about?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 04, 2015, 04:13:46 AM
Am I the only one here who can think for himself?
Post by: Ken B on May 04, 2015, 07:29:14 AM
What. Ever.No. You're also in charge of thinking for me.
Am I the only one here who can think for himself?
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 04, 2015, 07:34:44 AM
Post by: Ken B on May 04, 2015, 07:40:14 AM
If you read what I said . . . .Bzzt. You're in charge of reading for me too.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 04, 2015, 07:45:59 AM
Post by: EigenUser on May 04, 2015, 12:46:54 PM
You need to get a life.Fixed that for you.
pfffft
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on June 30, 2015, 05:50:28 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on June 30, 2015, 06:36:50 PM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 01, 2015, 02:29:52 AM
Dudes, my humblest apologies; I set out for the 14th Annual Rochester International Jazz Festival fully intending to report daily, but sadly, without my confoundedly complicated GMG and email passwords. Since I don't own a blackberry or a strawberry or elderberry nor any other similarly fruitful device - nor do my parents, my hoteliers in Rochester, I was a Man With No Computer (this is the modern equivalent of a Man Without a Country or perhaps more aptly, this digital age is No Country for Old Men. Will report on the Jazz Fest and CD purchases mañana .
Hope you made the best of a tech-less situation! Welcome back!
Post by: Cato on July 01, 2015, 02:38:17 AM
Dudes, my humblest apologies; I set out for the 14th Annual Rochester International Jazz Festival fully intending to report daily, but sadly, without my confoundedly complicated GMG and email passwords. Since I don't own a blackberry or a strawberry or elderberry nor any other similarly fruitful device - nor do my parents, my hoteliers in Rochester, I was a Man With No Computer (this is the modern equivalent of a Man Without a Country or perhaps more aptly, this digital age is No Country for Old Men. Will report on the Jazz Fest and CD purchases mañana .
Great to know that you are back in action! "Man With No Computer" sounds like it could be Karl's next work! I can hear it now: a drone bass with a high wavering clarinet on Eb/E, and in the middle a lonely cor anglais singing a "beautiful melody" ??? of lamentation...with a few mocking beeps and clicks muted trumpets. ;)
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on July 01, 2015, 03:25:14 AM
Welcome back, Zauber! I know what it's like to be 'a man without a computer' and it's certainly no fun! :)
Thanks, John, some Stenhammer was purchased there, as below. My first and of course, "all your fault." :) Looking forward to spinning this today.
Post by: Mirror Image on July 01, 2015, 03:27:44 AM
Thanks, John, some Stenhammer was purchased there, as below. My first and of course, "all your fault." :) Looking forward to spinning this today.
Hah! Let me know what you think of those recordings as this was Jarvi's 'remake' of these works, which I don't own.
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on July 01, 2015, 03:29:24 AM
Hope you made the best of a tech-less situation! Welcome back!
The jazz filled in the interstices quite nicely, but missed you guys. Karl, you need to be perform some of your work here. Have you seen the (comparatively) new and acoustically perfect Hatch Hall?
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on July 01, 2015, 03:32:12 AM
Great to know that you are back in action! "Man With No Computer" sounds like it could be Karl's next work! I can hear it now: a drone bass with a high wavering clarinet on Eb/E, and in the middle a lonely cor anglais singing a "beautiful melody" ??? of lamentation...with a few mocking beeps and clicks muted trumpets. ;)
I like your idea! Karl, go for it!!!!
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 01, 2015, 03:36:53 AM
The jazz filled in the interstices quite nicely, but missed you guys. Karl, you need to be perform some of your work here. Have you seen the (comparatively) new and acoustically perfect Hatch Hall?
I don't believe I have. Well, a visit or two to Rochester is not at all an outrageous thought . . . .
Post by: Gordo on August 09, 2015, 07:53:37 PM
I hope he will come back soon! :)
Post by: Que on August 09, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
Don (a.k.a. "Bulldog" and "Sammy") was online for the last time on June 22, 2015.
I hope he will come back soon! :)
Since he tends to take a break now and then, I trust he will be back. :)
I just hope he does change his username again, I can't keep up with your guys! ???
:D
Q
Post by: Brian on August 17, 2015, 02:02:20 PM
Since he tends to take a break now and then, I trust he will be back. :)
I just hope he does change his username again, I can't keep up with your guys! ???
:D
Q
I seem to recall an incident 2-3 years ago where somebody made the same complaint and everyone on GMG changed their username 4-5 times in the next 12 hours! George was Sheriff Buford T. Justice...not sure about everyone else...
Post by: Mirror Image on August 18, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
Post by: Mirror Image on August 25, 2015, 05:36:55 PM
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 26, 2015, 01:54:27 AM
Post by: Mirror Image on August 26, 2015, 01:50:15 PM
It is August 8)
True, the summer months do show a decline in forum activity, which is understandable. :) I wish I had a life.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on August 26, 2015, 03:21:19 PM
True, the summer months do show a decline in forum activity, which is understandable. :) I wish I had a life.
I've heard it's overrated... :-\
8)
Post by: Bogey on August 26, 2015, 04:38:55 PM
jwinter (Bill)
DavidW (The Doctor!)
David Ross
Chambernut (Ray)...but just saw him back! :)
toledobass (Allan)....he pops up now and then.
If any of the above are using a new handle, I missed it and apologize.
Miss 'em all.
Post by: kishnevi on September 02, 2015, 06:26:57 PM
(He did check in three days ago.)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 03, 2015, 02:38:57 AM
Post by: Florestan on September 06, 2015, 04:56:59 AM
I suspect it is mostly a matter of summer & family, but Andrei has been quiet some little while.
Nice to see that I am missed. :)
Summer, family and a recurrent lack of interest. Don't worry, though, I'll be back soon.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 06, 2015, 05:42:28 AM
Post by: Ken B on September 06, 2015, 11:02:57 AM
Nice to see that I am missed. :)
Summer, family and a recurrent lack of interest. Don't worry, though, I'll be back soon.
Lack of interest? In moi??
Post by: Florestan on September 07, 2015, 04:07:48 AM
Lack of interest? In moi??
En fait, tu es qui? ;D :P >:D
Post by: Ken B on October 15, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
I have decided there are too many here who willfully distort and misrepresent. SO after this post I am deleting my account.
Farewell to most of you, in particular Andrei, Karl, Al, Leo, and both Gregs, whom I have enjoyed discussions with.
Post by: kishnevi on October 15, 2015, 12:41:23 PM
Me.??? :'(
I have decided there are too many here who willfully distort and misrepresent. SO after this post I am deleting my account.
Farewell to most of you, in particular Andrei, Karl, Al, Leo, and both Gregs, whom I have enjoyed discussions with.
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2015, 12:55:37 PM
Too bad, he was a fun poster when he talked about music, and was a source of some great recommendations for me. And, of course, I'll never be able to listen to La mer without dedicating the listen to him. ;)
EDIT: Just want to say I also hope he comes back.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 15, 2015, 12:58:35 PM
Me.
I have decided there are too many here who willfully distort and misrepresent. SO after this post I am deleting my account.
Farewell to most of you, in particular Andrei, Karl, Al, Leo, and both Gregs, whom I have enjoyed discussions with.
This is a -1.
Hope Ken keeps in touch or returns soon.
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
I remember the first time I ventured beyond reading the SDCBT I saw table pounding, popcorn munching, pfffting, men named after pastries, and a rapidly changing picture labeled as a "mirror image." I feared I had wandered into a den of loons. But at least, I told myself, no sign yet that they are La Mer aficionados.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on October 15, 2015, 02:45:42 PM
Me.
I have decided there are too many here who willfully distort and misrepresent. SO after this post I am deleting my account.
Farewell to most of you, in particular Andrei, Karl, Al, Leo, and both Gregs, whom I have enjoyed discussions with.
Does that mean I shouldn't post a review of the Cumberbatch Hamlet?
Post by: Sammy on October 15, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
Don (a.k.a. "Bulldog" and "Sammy") was online for the last time on June 22, 2015.
I hope he will come back soon! :)
And I have now returned. I had a password problem and didn't get around to fixing it until just a couple of minutes ago. In tribute to my older dog Sammy, I'll remain a Sammy.
Post by: North Star on October 15, 2015, 03:06:24 PM
Does that mean I shouldn't post a review of the Cumberbatch Hamlet?There are plenty of folks interested in reading it, (poco).
And I have now returned. I had a password problem and didn't get around to fixing it until just a couple of minutes ago. In tribute to my older dog Sammy, I'll remain a Sammy.Hooray!
Post by: Mirror Image on October 15, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
And I have now returned. I had a password problem and didn't get around to fixing it until just a couple of minutes ago. In tribute to my older dog Sammy, I'll remain a Sammy.
Welcome back, Sammy. 8)
Post by: Mirror Image on October 15, 2015, 03:20:39 PM
Me.
I have decided there are too many here who willfully distort and misrepresent. SO after this post I am deleting my account.
Farewell to most of you, in particular Andrei, Karl, Al, Leo, and both Gregs, whom I have enjoyed discussions with.
I think leaving because of some political disagreement, or whatever is was, is completely ridiculous. Everyone has a different POV, why you couldn't just deal with it, I simply won't understand, but if you feel you'll better serve another music forum or whatever, then best of luck to you. These are the very reasons why I avoid political and religious discussions --- they end up leaving a bad taste in people's mouth. You should have saved your energies and posted on a political forum and just posted about music here.
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2015, 03:29:04 PM
And I have now returned. I had a password problem and didn't get around to fixing it until just a couple of minutes ago. In tribute to my older dog Sammy, I'll remain a Sammy.Hooray indeed!
And I for one (or rather, for another) eagerly await (p)Sfz's report.
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on October 15, 2015, 03:49:28 PM
There are plenty of folks interested in reading it, (poco).
Soon. While all you guys were sitting around insulting each other, I was watching some overzealous director insult Shakespeare.
Post by: kishnevi on October 15, 2015, 07:12:06 PM
Soon. While all you guys were sitting around insulting each other, I was watching some overzealous director insult Shakespeare.
Sounds like a interesting review is in the offing, even if the play was not interesting.
Welcome back, Sammy.
Post by: The new erato on October 15, 2015, 09:54:46 PM
And leaving a classical music board on account of political discussions, seems strange. Stay away from them, I say, and remember that is not why you joined the board.
Post by: Jo498 on October 15, 2015, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: Sammy on October 15, 2015, 10:54:47 PM
Post by: Camphy on October 15, 2015, 11:00:01 PM
While I did not follow the thread(s) that apparently caused Ken to leave in anger, I am surprised. I had the impression that he was more likely to cause someone else to leave because he usually did not hold back his opinion on about everything and sometimes in pungent words (and those snide remarks on La Mer got old rather quickly), but he seemed also to be able to "take some fire".
Agreed, and although the reactions above concerning political discussions are perfectly reasonable, KenB didn't mention anything other than wilful misrepresentation and distortion. Perhaps he meant something else too.
Speaking about missing members: I missed RebLem's extensive posts in the Listening thread. Apparently he hasn't checked in for over two months.
Welcome back, Sammy. Always a pleasure to see someone join or return.
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 16, 2015, 04:27:21 AM
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on October 16, 2015, 04:49:25 AM
Sounds like a interesting review is in the offing, even if the play was not interesting.
The play is interesting. The direction was appalling.
I love La Mer.
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 16, 2015, 04:50:23 AM
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on October 16, 2015, 04:52:41 AM
And who will defend Philip Glass, besides myself?
Sean.
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 16, 2015, 04:56:03 AM
Post by: OrchestralNut on October 16, 2015, 04:57:31 AM
I'll be glad for the company of one. :)
And Greg (Monkey Greg). Also a Philip Glass fan. :)
Post by: Florestan on October 16, 2015, 05:00:56 AM
Sammy, welcome back, glad to see you again!
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 16, 2015, 05:12:48 AM
As for Ken, he will come or go as he sees fit, as have thousands before him and thousands more hence. As I would have counseled him if he had asked: keep your ass out of political discussions and you won't get it bitten. Same to all of y'all. $:)
8)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 16, 2015, 05:25:22 AM
Glad Sammy-Don is back; one of my long-time favorites.
As for Ken, he will come or go as he sees fit, as have thousands before him and thousands more hence. As I would have counseled him if he had asked: keep your ass out of political discussions and you won't get it bitten. Same to all of y'all. $:)
8)
Discuss you ne'er so wisely, there's some teeth, somewhere, ready to latch onto yer hind quarters.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 16, 2015, 05:48:02 AM
Discuss you ne'er so wisely, there's some teeth, somewhere, ready to latch onto yer hind quarters.
+1 - Roger that. Brings us back to Poco's Hamlet, I reckon... :)
8)
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2015, 07:25:48 AM
And who will defend Philip Glass, besides myself?GS Moeller, ComposerOfAvantGarde, and me. :)
Post by: Mr. Three Putt on October 16, 2015, 09:45:29 AM
GS Moeller, ComposerOfAvantGarde, and me. :)
I refuse to defend Glass. As my favorite living composer, I'm happy to promote him and ignore those who slight him.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 16, 2015, 09:46:22 AM
I refuse to defend Glass. As my favorite living composer [....]
This is only because you need to hear more Henning. No, but I mean it 8)
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 16, 2015, 09:47:20 AM
. . . I'm happy to promote him and ignore those who slight him.
This is the right idea, absolutely.
Post by: Mr. Three Putt on October 16, 2015, 09:57:07 AM
This is only because you need to hear more Henning. No, but I mean it 8)
I intend to, and you seem perfectly capable of defending yourself. For the record, I've already promoted you in my own circles, small as they may be.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 16, 2015, 09:59:42 AM
I intend to, and you seem perfectly capable of defending yourself. For the record, I've already promoted you in my own circles, small as they may be.
I am touched, and I thank you.
Post by: zamyrabyrd on October 19, 2015, 10:23:23 PM
"Tempus fugit, better to fill it with music!"
(trying to think of something witty to say...)
ZB
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 20, 2015, 01:35:37 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on October 20, 2015, 02:47:55 AM
Dear GMG, Thanks for the birthday greeting!
"Tempus fugit, better to fill it with music!"
(trying to think of something witty to say...)
ZB
Woo-hoo! Hi, ZB!
The byrd, byrd, byrd is the word.
Sarge
Post by: Camphy on October 20, 2015, 02:50:39 AM
Speaking about missing members: I missed RebLem's extensive posts in the Listening thread. Apparently he hasn't checked in for over two months.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 07, 2015, 09:21:43 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 07, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
Say, where's our Bill (Bogey)?
Two months since last active. That is disturbing.
Sarge
Post by: (: premont :) on November 07, 2015, 11:17:05 AM
Speaking about missing members: I missed RebLem's extensive posts in the Listening thread. Apparently he hasn't checked in for over two months.
His latest post in CMG was sent 25.10.15.
Post by: Camphy on November 07, 2015, 12:39:40 PM
His latest post in CMG was sent 25.10.15.
Sorry, what is CMG? Or do you mean GMG? RebLem's profile indicates that he hasn't checked in since August 4th.
Post by: Brian on November 07, 2015, 01:02:19 PM
Sorry, what is CMG? Or do you mean GMG? RebLem's profile indicates that he hasn't checked in since August 4th.CMG is another forum with a different crowd of visitors.
Post by: Camphy on November 07, 2015, 01:12:02 PM
CMG is another forum with a different crowd of visitors.
Ah, thanks for the clarification, Brian.
Post by: Bogey on November 07, 2015, 03:35:25 PM
Say, where's our Bill (Bogey)?
All is well in Colorado, Karl and Sarge and saw your calls from the Pulse, Karl. Just a break from posting here.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 07, 2015, 03:38:10 PM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 07, 2015, 03:48:38 PM
Sarge
Post by: Brian on November 07, 2015, 07:21:01 PM
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on November 07, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
CMG is another forum with a different crowd of visitors.
And some overlaps. I always refer to it as "That Other Board."
Post by: (: premont :) on November 08, 2015, 03:11:23 AM
Sorry, what is CMG? Or do you mean GMG? RebLem's profile indicates that he hasn't checked in since August 4th.
This:
http://classicalmusicguide.com/viewforum.php?f=10
Post by: Bogey on November 08, 2015, 05:49:38 AM
Hooray, Bill is back! At least for the moment. :)
Well, thanks for the Hooray, Brian. :) Another reason I stopped posting a bit is that I let the classical collection collect some dust for a couple months. I really hit the lounge and exotica stuff and a bit of jazz, though this was through a local jazz radio station here. Great for sampling and discovering new music.
Post by: jochanaan on November 08, 2015, 08:11:20 AM
Well, thanks for the Hooray, Brian. :) Another reason I stopped posting a bit is that I let the classical collection collect some dust for a couple months. I really hit the lounge and exotica stuff and a bit of jazz, though this was through a local jazz radio station here. Great for sampling and discovering new music.Have you found our new jazz forum yet? 8) Never mind; it seems you have. :laugh:
Post by: Camphy on November 10, 2015, 02:38:04 AM
This:
http://classicalmusicguide.com/viewforum.php?f=10
Thanks.
Post by: (: premont :) on November 10, 2015, 03:46:10 AM
Thanks.
There is a new post (about opera) from RebLem in CMG yesterday.
So I think we do not need to worry.
Post by: mc ukrneal on November 10, 2015, 03:56:39 AM
There is a new post (about opera) from RebLem in CMG yesterday.He posted here as well. Long one on Rossini.
So I think we do not need to worry.
Post by: Camphy on November 10, 2015, 04:01:22 AM
There is a new post (about opera) from RebLem in CMG yesterday.
So I think we do not need to worry.
He posted here as well. Long one on Rossini.
Good to know.
Post by: Cato on December 10, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
The profile statistics say he was last here in late July.
I hope he is doing well, but usually an absence like this means he is suffering after-effects from his accident.
Post by: Mirror Image on December 10, 2015, 07:50:21 PM
Post by: Cato on December 11, 2015, 04:57:06 AM
I do hope Scots John returns. Really like that guy and he's been nothing but nice to me.
I will send him an e-mail today: he also has a FaceBook page, but no activity there either.
Post by: Mirror Image on December 11, 2015, 07:08:15 PM
I will send him an e-mail today: he also has a FaceBook page, but no activity there either.
I, too, am friends with him on Facebook.
Post by: Mirror Image on December 13, 2015, 06:26:59 PM
Post by: vandermolen on December 15, 2015, 01:19:57 PM
I, too, am friends with him on Facebook.Me too - a great guy.
Post by: Parsifal on December 18, 2015, 09:01:27 AM
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on December 18, 2015, 09:36:40 AM
Where in the world has Nate (EigenUser) been? It's not like him to not post and I don't buy for a second that he's run out of things say about music.
Very concerned about him myself. Someone posted recently how "GMGers come and go" (or words to that effect) and not to be disappointed when they disappear, but damn', I gets used to folks and accustomed to their ways, however peculiar, and well, grows to like 'em.
Post by: Brian on December 18, 2015, 10:33:22 AM
What's this, "Greg" has resigned from GMG and no one even seems to notice this momentous event? He was the dean of the board, the epitome of GMG and now he is gone. What's left? A bunch of vainglorious posts about how someone who was music director of the Vienna Philharmonic doesn't know how to play Mozart?They say that when you don't have something nice to say about someone...
Post by: kishnevi on December 18, 2015, 10:34:01 AM
What's this, "Greg" has resigned from GMG and no one even seems to notice this momentous event? He was the dean of the board, the epitome of GMG and now he is gone. What's left? A bunch of vainglorious posts about how someone who was music director of the Vienna Philharmonic doesn't know how to play Mozart?
If it is Greg the anime and hard metal lover...he himself announced it, on the grounds that classical music had taken a back seat in his listening habits for now....
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 18, 2015, 10:36:11 AM
Post by: Parsifal on December 18, 2015, 12:10:57 PM
They say that when you don't have something nice to say about someone...
Absolutely right, mum's the word.
Post by: Mirror Image on December 18, 2015, 05:04:22 PM
Very concerned about him myself. Someone posted recently how "GMGers come and go" (or words to that effect) and not to be disappointed when they disappear, but damn', I gets used to folks and accustomed to their ways, however peculiar, and well, grows to like 'em.
If I like a member and have conversed with them a good bit, then, naturally, I'm going to feel some kind of void I think. He was posting at a rapid pace at one time, but I just hope everything is okay with him.
Post by: Henk on December 19, 2015, 03:41:22 AM
Post by: Cato on December 19, 2015, 05:09:08 AM
I tried to contact John some days ago on Facebook, but he didn't respond. Hope he's well.
Same here: I also sent a letter via e-mail, but nothing yet.
John has gone through phases, where there are bursts of energy, and then nothing for months. One of his longest bursts was during the writing of a script about Hans Rott, for which I translated a good number of German documents about Rott for him, and advised him on the construction of the script.
But that was more than several years ago.
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on December 19, 2015, 07:04:43 AM
If I like a member and have conversed with them a good bit, then, naturally, I'm going to feel some kind of void I think. He was posting at a rapid pace at one time, but I just hope everything is okay with him.
I've decided to fill that void with imaginary (but still remotely possible) dénouements for missing members. In Nate's case, I'm convinced that Boulez discovered him and has hired him as an assistant (he likes to carry around scores with him wherever he goes and has gotten too old for that and Nate's perfect for the job). Though it does gnaw somewhat that now he has made the grade he hasn't time for his old friends...
Post by: Mirror Image on December 19, 2015, 07:24:18 AM
I've decided to fill that void with imaginary (but still remotely possible) dénouements for missing members. In Nate's case, I'm convinced that Boulez discovered him and has hired him as an assistant (he likes to carry around scores with him wherever he goes and has gotten too old for that and Nate's perfect for the job). Though it does gnaw somewhat that now he has made the grade he hasn't time for his old friends...
:D Hah!
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 19, 2015, 07:25:53 AM
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on December 19, 2015, 07:38:48 AM
As long as, when Boulez calls for a score, Nate teases him by handing over some other score . . . .
:) ;D :laugh:
That's ok, the master has an explosive temper, Nate gets fired and has time to post again and resume his engineering career. Everything works out in the wash.
Post by: Florestan on December 19, 2015, 07:42:58 AM
As long as, when Boulez calls for a score, Nate teases him by handing over some other score . . . .
I don´t think that Boulez would actually be able to notice that... >:D >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D :P :P :P
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 19, 2015, 07:48:26 AM
Post by: EigenUser on January 08, 2016, 01:09:55 PM
Where in the world has Nate (EigenUser) been?Right here! :)
I've decided to fill that void with imaginary (but still remotely possible) dénouements for missing members. In Nate's case, I'm convinced that Boulez discovered him and has hired him as an assistant (he likes to carry around scores with him wherever he goes and has gotten too old for that and Nate's perfect for the job). Though it does gnaw somewhat that now he has made the grade he hasn't time for his old friends...:laugh: HAHAHAHA this is the best story ever (but RIP Boulez... :().
I'm not at all happy about the Ken B. and Greg situations, though. That really is disappointing. I always wished Greg posted more about classical music, but people move on -- I get it. Ken, on the other hand, made so many good recommendations. We disagreed on a lot, but I enjoyed reading what he wrote. Plus, he got all of my annoying math jokes.
In memory of Ken:
https://www.youtube.com/v/FOCucJw7iT8
>:D >:D
Post by: Super Blood Moon on January 08, 2016, 01:29:27 PM
I always wished Greg posted more about classical music, but people move on -- I get it.
Greg moved on? Why?
Post by: Super Blood Moon on January 08, 2016, 01:30:33 PM
If it is Greg the anime and hard metal lover...he himself announced it, on the grounds that classical music had taken a back seat in his listening habits for now....
Never mind. Greg's gone metal. Sensible enough. ;)
Post by: OrchestralNut on January 08, 2016, 01:56:21 PM
Never mind. Greg's gone metal. Sensible enough. ;)
;D Honestly, I read this as Greg's gone mental, first go around. :laugh:
Post by: Super Blood Moon on January 08, 2016, 01:56:54 PM
;D Honestly, I read this as Greg's gone mental, first go around. :laugh:
Same thing. ;)
Post by: Florestan on January 08, 2016, 01:57:36 PM
Same thing. ;)
;D ;D ;D
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on January 08, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
Right here! :)
Voyez, tous! Son maître mort, il est revenu! And welcome back, Nate!
Post by: Mirror Image on January 08, 2016, 05:46:41 PM
Voyez, tous! Son maître mort, il est revenu!&