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Title: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Mark on July 11, 2007, 03:30:53 PM
Please, Melodiya, if you're reading this, reissue that Sveshnikov/USSR State Choir Rachmaninov All-night Vigil. The transfer I have is almost certainly a fake, so I'd love to hear the original. Thank you. :)


Anyone else got a request?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Que on July 11, 2007, 09:33:08 PM
I've been quite lucky lately in finding several OOP items from the RCA Heifetz Collection.

Most of the times I'm able to find what I'm looking for, or the item is reissued - but it can take a year or two!  :)

Only thing I can think of right now are the recordings Nathan Milstein did in the 30's of the Tchaikovsky and Bruch concertos, as issued on Biddulph. I have these recordings on Naxos, and they're nice but I remember the Biddulph as being superiorly transferred.

Ah, and yes: volume 2 of the Schnabel/LvB sonatas cycle on Pearl! ;D

Q
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: sidoze on July 11, 2007, 11:39:49 PM

Only thing I can think of right now are the recordings Nathan Milstein did in the 30's of the Tchaikovsky and Bruch concertos, as issued on Biddulph. I have these recordings on Naxos, and they're nice but I remember the Biddulph as being superiorly transferred.

According to the Milstein discography, in addition to Biddulph and Naxos the Tchaikovsky VC is also on Pearl, available now for £10 if you wish to take a chance (just 1 in stock).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nathan-Milstein-Vol-2-Tchaikovsky-Beethoven/dp/B000000WRS/ref=sr_1_7/203-6050568-1831944?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1184229393&sr=1-7

In fact the Bruch is also on Pearl:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bruch-Concerto-Scottish-Fantasy-KoNidrei/dp/B00000JCEV/ref=sr_1_1/203-6050568-1831944?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1184229611&sr=1-1


Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Harry Collier on July 12, 2007, 12:45:42 AM
Only thing I can think of right now are the recordings Nathan Milstein did in the 30's of the Tchaikovsky and Bruch concertos, as issued on Biddulph. I have these recordings on Naxos, and they're nice but I remember the Biddulph as being superiorly transferred.

Yes, nice performances. I have both on Naxos, Biddulph and Arlecchino. Can't remember whether Naxos or Biddulph is the better transfer, however. If I remember, I'll give it a test this evening.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: 71 dB on July 12, 2007, 12:47:54 AM
Anyone else got a request?

Sure!

Bruhns - Complete Cantatas - Ricercar.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Holden on July 12, 2007, 01:00:54 AM
John Field - Nocturnes: Noel Lee
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on July 12, 2007, 02:12:08 AM
Well, my wishes are pretty obvious, and I'm sure I share them with the majority of GMGers. I wish there would be a rerelease of the following:

Moniuszko - The Haunted Manor, Poznan Opera under Bierdiajew (LP, released on CD by Tonpress in the early 1990s)

Moniuszko - Halka under Semkow (LP and MC, released on CD by Harmonia Mundi)

Moniuszko - Flis (Polskie Nagrania MC, probably an LP too; no CD release that I'm aware of)

Plus a ton of other stuff. (Of course... ::)).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Grazioso on July 12, 2007, 02:39:02 AM
* Ricercar's complete Deutsche Barock Kantaten series
* anything by the late, lamented countertenor Henri Ledroit
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Que on July 12, 2007, 02:52:28 AM
According to the Milstein discography, in addition to Biddulph and Naxos the Tchaikovsky VC is also on Pearl, available now for £10 if you wish to take a chance (just 1 in stock).

In fact the Bruch is also on Pearl:

I know Sidoze, and those are fine alternatives - but I'm dragging my feet to buy those, hoping that Biddulph will reissue!  :)


* Ricercar's complete Deutsche Barock Kantaten series
* anything by the late, lamented countertenor Henri Ledroit

We should organise a campaign to request reissue of the series by Ricercar (http://www.fugalibera.com/home.php)!

btw they did reissue some items which might originate from that series?

(http://www.fugalibera.com/data/cds/240/BIG.JPG) (http://www.fugalibera.com/data/cds/40/BIG.JPG)

Q
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Rabin_Fan on July 12, 2007, 04:02:50 AM
Amadeus in Vienna - a CD by Christophe Rousset on Decca. My friend had it in his hand & he let it pass. Too bad until Decca re-releases it!
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Que on July 12, 2007, 04:20:07 AM
I have another one.
I'm missing volume 4 with opus 33 & 42 from the complete Haydn SQ's by the Festetics Quartet (Arcana - A 414). Can't find a trace of it on the net - it seems to have vanished into thin air.
Now, that hurts... :-\

Q
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Mark on July 12, 2007, 04:26:09 AM
I'd just be happy if someone could find this (in stock and available to buy) for me:

(http://www.russiandvd.com/store/assets/product_images/imgs/front/34477.jpg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: dirkronk on July 12, 2007, 04:36:59 AM
Anything and everything done by the Beethoven String Quartet of Moscow. Retransfers of their Shostakovich quartet cycle (the Consonance CDs were WAY too shrill), their Beethoven quartet cycle (the vinyl is now costly and hard to find, at least in the US, and I don't think these were ever issued on CD), plus whatever else may be in Russian archives. Melodiya...please? Brilliant...a nice big collector box to go along with your other Russian performer sets?

The Frederick Stock double-CD set formerly but not now available from Biddulph...and others from this conductor (which would include the Milstein Tchaikovsky noted in other posts above...one of my favorite performances of the piece).

The Enescu-as-violinist recordings, including a CD's worth of solo work once available on Biddulph, and various pieces with Lipatti (last released on Philips but now OOP, I believe) and other accompanists. I do now own copies of these, thanks to very kind collectors out there who took pity on me after more than four years of searching...but I'd still like "legit" releases for any notes or additional items. Besides, I have been told that there are a number of private, radio broadcast and other performances that would easily fill one or more additional CDs, but have never been officially released.

Several items once released in limited number by the Chicago Symphony but now long out of print: LvB sym. 4 and several otherwise unreleased performances by Reiner, plus lots of things by other conductors with that orchestra. Based on posts by Heck on CMG and others over the years, I am given to understand that there are many treasures that deserve to see the light of day once more (or perhaps for the first time)--the two still-available multi-CD sets apparently being the tip of the iceberg. I actually contacted the symphony's representatives last week to urge reissue and broader marketing of some specific previously-released items, and was told basically that they would take this under advisement. I won't hold my breath, but will try to remain hopeful.

The Remington catalog. Yes, there were some pretty so-so items in it, but there were also some real gems. Finding near-mint vinyl copies is like finding hen's teeth, and very few of the recordings have EVER been issued on CD. The late-career Enescu Bach sonatas & partitas have seen issue on budget labels, and Appian has released the Barere Carnegie Hall recordings, but what about the rest of the catalog?

And this wouldn't be a reissue...BUT...does everyone remember the news announcement from about two or three years ago that one or more enormous radio archives had been "discovered" in Russia, and that these contained several decades of live performances by major and lesser-known Russian and other artists? Whatever happened to these fabled archives? What's in 'em? And how come the market hasn't been flooded with examples of their contents? Inquisitive (and acquisitive) people want to know!
 ;D

Dirk
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Que on July 12, 2007, 04:56:50 AM
Anything and everything done by the Beethoven String Quartet of Moscow. Retransfers of their Shostakovich quartet cycle (the Consonance CDs were WAY too shrill), their Beethoven quartet cycle (the vinyl is now costly and hard to find, at least in the US, and I don't think these were ever issued on CD), plus whatever else may be in Russian archives. Melodiya...please? Brilliant...a nice big collector box to go along with your other Russian performer sets?

Looks as if some of it is coming Dirk! (pictures from jpc)

(http://www.jpc.de/image/cover/front/0/8383361.jpg) (http://www.jpc.de/image/cover/front/0/8382450.jpg)
(http://www.jpc.de/image/cover/front/0/3988736.jpg) (http://www.jpc.de/image/cover/front/0/3989018.jpg)

Q
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Harry Collier on July 12, 2007, 05:57:11 AM

The Bach A minor and E major concertos that Milstein recorded in 1967 (with "chamber orchestra"), together with the D minor double concerto with Erica Morini (1964). The EMI (France) CD also contained the Bach (Goldberg) sonata in C for two violins (Milstein and Morini). I bought the CD in FNAC for €6 many years ago. The performances are immaculate, and classical. I keep recommending it, since it's a very fine disc indeed, but it's probably now only available in Outer Mongolia.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: rubio on July 12, 2007, 06:50:53 AM
I'm desperately looking for:

Bruckner Symphony No. 6 conducted by Bongartz (Berlin Classics).
Nielsen Symphony No. 5 performed by Horenstein/New Philharmonia (Unicorn).
Haydn's Creation conducted by Hogwood (Decca).

It would also be nice to find:

Richter's Praga box set for an OK price.
Beethoven late String Quartets by Busch Quartet w/Op. 130 (on Biddulph).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: MISHUGINA on July 12, 2007, 06:59:07 AM
I'm desperately looking for:

Nielsen Symphony No. 5 performed by Horenstein/New Philharmonia (Unicorn).


The Nielsen has just been re-issued not long ago coupled with the equally elusive Mahler 6/Bournemouth SO on BBC Legends here:

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/Sept06/Mahler6_Horenstein_BBCL41912.htm


The only recording I want is Rite of Spring by Bernstein/NYPO. I repeat New York Philharmonic recording, not the later London Symphony or Israel Philharmonic recordings. Critics are raving it so much it
's becoming stuff of legends and I don't understand why Sony doesn't want to reissue it.  >:(
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Drasko on July 12, 2007, 06:59:41 AM
Les Introuvables d' Igor Markevitch (4 CD Emi France box)
Shostakovich 10th - NYPO/Mitropoulos (CBS)
Richter - Scriabin recital Warsaw '72 (Music & Arts)
Richter Edition vol.10 - Scriabin, Prokofiev, Miaskovsky (Melodiya)
Martinu Double Concerto, 3rd Symphony - CzPO/Sejna (Supraphon)
Rachmaninov Vespers (complete) - Sveshnikov (Melodiya)
Sibelius - Syms. 1, 2, 3, 5, Tapiola - LSO/Kajanus (Finlandia)
Samuil Feinberg vols.2 & 3 - Scriabin & Schumann (Arlecchino)
Weill - Seven Deadly Sins - Lemper/Mauceri (Decca)
Victor Ullmann - Der Kaiser von Atlantis - Leipzig/Zagorosek (Decca/Entartete Musik)
Stravinsky - Les Noces (two versions) - Eotvos (Hungaroton)
Lev Knipper - Symphony No.4 - Moscow SO/Dudarova (Melodiya)
BMG/Melodiya Musica Non Grata series (particularly Mosolov and 'Russian Music from the 20s' mixed disc)
Nelson Freire - '84 Miami Recital (Audiofon)
Mussorgsky - Complete songs - Christoff (EMI 3CDs)
Sibelius - 4th, Leminkainen - USSR something or other (Melodiya), 2nd & 5th - LSO (EMI), Tapiola, Violin Concerto/Spivakovsky (Everest) - all of the above conducted by Tauno Hannikainen

and I could go on like this....
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: rubio on July 12, 2007, 07:12:55 AM
The Nielsen has just been re-issued not long ago coupled with the equally elusive Mahler 6/Bournemouth SO on BBC Legends here:

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/Sept06/Mahler6_Horenstein_BBCL41912.htm


The only recording I want is Rite of Spring by Bernstein/NYPO. I repeat New York Philharmonic recording, not the later London Symphony or Israel Philharmonic recordings. Critics are raving it so much it
's becoming stuff of legends and I don't understand why Sony doesn't want to reissue it.  >:(

It's sadly enough not the same performance.

http://groups.google.de/group/rec.music.classical.recordings/browse_thread/thread/355d96e0bbce154/593b478ef456328c?lnk=gst&q=nielsen+horenstein+bbc+&rnum=4#593b478ef456328c

The Unicorn release is well-known for it's amazing and wild snare drum work.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: MishaK on July 12, 2007, 10:45:46 AM
Victor Ullmann - Der Kaiser von Atlantis - Leipzig/Zagorosek (Decca/Entartete Musik)

That entire series disappeared way too fast. There was some good stuff there.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bunny on July 12, 2007, 12:35:51 PM
I've got a list somewhere on my computer, but meanwhile off the top of my head these come to mind:

Hogwood's recording of Haydn's The Creation in English. 

Wyn Morris's Mahler 9th

Janos Starker playing Bach's Suites for Solo Cello, volume 1 (Suites 1,2,3) Sefel Label.   I had that and it was removed from my home by some one visiting (and I don't even have a suspicion of who did it).  I still have Volume 2 and the empty Vol. 1 jewel box. >:(

Andreas Staier's recording of the Schubert piano sonatas D. 958,959 and 960.  The 958 and 959 were re-released on the Elatus imprint, but the 960 is in OOP limbo. :(

Hogwood's incomplete Haydn symphonies cycle.  I keep picking up bits and pieces of that as they come on the market.

Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Brewski on July 12, 2007, 01:02:20 PM
I wish DG would release its Avant Garde series of LPs in a similar CD format, reproducing the original artwork.  (They originally appeared in the 1960s, if I recall.)  Some of the material has made it to CD elsewhere, but not all (I could be mistaken), and it would be nice to have some of the more obscure works.  Here is one that I particularly liked, with works for chorus:

David Bedford: Two Poems for Chorus
György Ligeti: Lux aeterna
Arne Mellnäs: Succsism
Marek Kopelent: Matka

OK, OK...so I love the covers!

--Bruce
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Mark on July 12, 2007, 01:07:54 PM
Hogwood's incomplete Haydn symphonies cycle.  I keep picking up bits and pieces of that as they come on the market.

Anyone know why he didn't finish this? I think I have his 76 and 77 somewhere.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: E d o on July 12, 2007, 02:04:45 PM
Gillesberger's reading of Bach's St. John Passion on Teldec which was somewhat controversially attributed to Harnoncourt.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bunny on July 13, 2007, 05:07:02 AM
Anyone know why he didn't finish this? I think I have his 76 and 77 somewhere.

Sorry, I have no idea what killed the project.  Perhaps Decca (L'Oiseau Lyre) pulled the plug the same way DG did on Gardiner's Cantatas?  I know Hogwood is no longer associated with the AAM, and records for different labels now.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bogey on July 13, 2007, 05:20:28 AM
I've got a list somewhere on my computer, but meanwhile off the top of my head these come to mind:

Hogwood's recording of Haydn's The Creation in English. 

Wyn Morris's Mahler 9th

Janos Starker playing Bach's Suites for Solo Cello, volume 1 (Suites 1,2,3) Sefel Label.   I had that and it was removed from my home by some one visiting (and I don't even have a suspicion of who did it).  I still have Volume 2 and the empty Vol. 1 jewel box. >:(

Andreas Staier's recording of the Schubert piano sonatas D. 958,959 and 960.  The 958 and 959 were re-released on the Elatus imprint, but the 960 is in OOP limbo. :(

Hogwood's incomplete Haydn symphonies cycle.  I keep picking up bits and pieces of that as they come on the market.



Sorry, I have no idea what killed the project.  Perhaps Decca (L'Oiseau Lyre) pulled the plug the same way DG did on Gardiner's Cantatas?  I know Hogwood is no longer associated with the AAM, and records for different labels now.

FWIW, I emailed the powers that be with this question last summer.....here was the respnse:

Dear Bill,

Decca have not informed us of any plans to re-release or finish these discs. As you suggest it would be lovely to be able to complete the set. At this stage in a volatile recording market it is not viable for Decca to do so but we hope, as you do, that it may be a future possibility.

Regards,
Laura Milner
Administrator AAM
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PSmith08 on July 13, 2007, 05:39:16 AM
I wish DG would release its Avant Garde series of LPs in a similar CD format, reproducing the original artwork.  (They originally appeared in the 1960s, if I recall.)  Some of the material has made it to CD elsewhere, but not all (I could be mistaken), and it would be nice to have some of the more obscure works.  Here is one that I particularly liked, with works for chorus:

David Bedford: Two Poems for Chorus
György Ligeti: Lux aeterna
Arne Mellnäs: Succsism
Marek Kopelent: Matka

OK, OK...so I love the covers!

--Bruce

I think that only the Ligeti Lux aeterna has received any real support from DGG, with its inclusion in the Clear or Cloudy box set. It's a fine performance, and - ultimately - a great box set (not too expensive, either); still, that looks like it would be a nice re-release.

As for me, I would like to see Harnoncourt's recording of Das Buch mit sieben Siegeln re-released in the States. I think, though, I am not sure, that it's still in print elsewhere.

Dohnányi's Wagner recordings in Cleveland on Decca wouldn't hurt, either. They re-released Haitink, Barenboim, Boulez, and Böhm: a couple more sets couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Todd on July 13, 2007, 05:51:08 AM
Anything and everything done by the Beethoven String Quartet of Moscow.

Well,

(http://www.arkivmusic.com/graphics/covers/full/94/947891.jpg)

Doremi has reissued the complete cycle in aything but shrill sound.  In fact, they went the other way, doing a bit too much high frequency filtering, but overall the sound is acceptable.  The performances are far, far more than that.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: sidoze on July 13, 2007, 06:42:24 AM
It would be nice to see M&A or Pristine Audio rerelease Richter's Leipzig recital containing the last 3 Beethoven sonatas.

A reverb-less transfer of Maryla Jonas's Chopin Mazurkas would also be wonderful (*mutters something about hell and cold temperatures*).

Ah okay, I recall one thing that I *really* would like to hear on CD: Fiorentino's Chopin. There's a huge chunk of recordings from the '50s and '60s which have never appeared (except for the complete Nocturnes, OOP naturally).

Any other recordings by Feinberg, Ginzburg and Yakov Fliere would be very welcome too.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: dirkronk on July 13, 2007, 07:22:36 AM
Ah okay, I recall one thing that I *really* would like to hear on CD: Fiorentino's Chopin. There's a huge chunk of recordings from the '50s and '60s which have never appeared (except for the complete Nocturnes, OOP naturally).

Any other recordings by Feinberg, Ginzburg and Yakov Fliere would be very welcome too.

Amen to all that.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on July 13, 2007, 07:50:31 AM
Dohnányi's Wagner recordings in Cleveland on Decca wouldn't hurt, either.

Do you mean Das Rheingold and Die Walküre from the aborted Decca cycle?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bogey on July 13, 2007, 07:54:56 AM
All of Pearl's catalogue that is OOP....not that I would buy all of these cds, but I do wish I had the option to easily purchase the ones that I want when I want.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PSmith08 on July 13, 2007, 08:01:28 AM
Do you mean Das Rheingold and Die Walküre from the aborted Decca cycle?

Yeah. The casts don't look particularly special, but that could just be my unfamiliarity with some of the singers, but getting Cleveland and Dohnányi in modern(ish) digital would be nice.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on July 13, 2007, 08:06:14 AM
I have those! It took me an eternity to find them, but now I have them.

Yeeeeaaaaahhh!

(http://www.altmanphoto.com/Yeah.jpeg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PSmith08 on July 13, 2007, 08:17:11 AM
I have those! It took me an eternity to find them, but now I have them.

Yeeeeaaaaahhh!

Sweet!

I'm kind of hoping that the UMG reissue mania will bring them around, just like EMI's mid-price reissue of the Haitink Ring, but I'm not holding my breath. There's also a weird choice, from what I read (I obviously don't know), with Peter Schreier as Mime - instead of Loge. Ah, well, there's always Janowski for that.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on July 13, 2007, 08:36:52 AM
I have that, too. Actually, I have that 3 times because I simply couldn't resist when it was on amazon for under $9 last year. Really nice, especially orchestrally. BTW, Schreier stars as both Loge and Mime (though not at the same time) in Janowski's Ring. I also recently bought Sawallisch's Ring, but haven't listened to it much yet, except for spotchecking some orchestral highlights. Yes, I am one of those people for whom the orchestra is just as important as the singers. In fact, I see the singers as just additional instruments in the overall fabric of sound, so to speak. I didn't even check which singers are in that Ring. I just saw, Sawallisch, good, Bayerisches Staatsorchester, very good, let's order that.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PSmith08 on July 13, 2007, 09:19:50 AM
I have that, too. Actually, I have that 3 times because I simply couldn't resist when it was on amazon for under $9 last year. Really nice, especially orchestrally. BTW, Schreier stars as both Loge and Mime (though not at the same time) in Janowski's Ring. I also recently bought Sawallisch's Ring, but haven't listened to it much yet, except for spotchecking some orchestral highlights. Yes, I am one of those people for whom the orchestra is just as important as the singers. In fact, I see the singers as just additional instruments in the overall fabric of sound, so to speak. I didn't even check which singers are in that Ring. I just saw, Sawallisch, good, Bayerisches Staatsorchester, very good, let's order that.

Schreier's Mime is up there with Graham Clark for Barenboim, though I prefer his Loge because I like the character. He doesn't get as out of control as Clark (or even Heinz Zednik) does in that last monologue of Loge's in Rheingold, but there is some quiet menace there. Schreier is probably my favorite tenor, so I am probably biased, though.

I've never checked out Sawallisch's Ring, but if the price came down on it, I'd consider it. My music library is pretty light on the Sawallisch.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on July 13, 2007, 09:47:40 AM
Schreier is probably my favorite tenor, so I am probably biased, though.

What? Not Pavarotti?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PSmith08 on July 13, 2007, 10:20:10 AM
What? Not Pavarotti?

Not by a long shot.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bunny on July 13, 2007, 11:19:06 AM
FWIW, I emailed the powers that be with this question last summer.....here was the respnse:

Dear Bill,

Decca have not informed us of any plans to re-release or finish these discs. As you suggest it would be lovely to be able to complete the set. At this stage in a volatile recording market it is not viable for Decca to do so but we hope, as you do, that it may be a future possibility.

Regards,
Laura Milner
Administrator AAM


What an annoying letter!  Does no one check Ebay or Amazon to look at the prices used copies sell for?  I suppose we will have to wait for Eloquence to license them, and then mail order everything from Australia. ::)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on July 13, 2007, 12:28:05 PM
What do you expect? Do you think the AAM can just go and tell Decca "hey, release our old recordings again, and BTW, we want you to finance us completing the cycle?" And Decca will just say "right away, your wish is our command"? Huh?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on July 13, 2007, 12:45:39 PM
Oh, another one I forgot. This LP (I have it but I want it on CD! >:():

(http://www.winyle.rembertow.net/katalogi/kat062/okladki/6205.jpg)

Zimerman's 1977 sonatas recital (Beethoven, Prokofiev, Bacewicz). The Bacewicz was later included on a now oop Olympia disc.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: sidoze on July 13, 2007, 12:52:08 PM
whats the prokofiev?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on July 13, 2007, 12:54:38 PM
Sorry. Absent-minded, I guess (I was meaning to list them):

Beethoven Sonata in C Minor op. 13 (Pathétique)
Prokofiev Sonata No. 3 op. 28
Bacewicz Sonata No. 2
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: rubio on July 14, 2007, 02:07:34 PM
I would love to hear the Tchaikovsky Piano Trio by Kogan, Gilels and Rostropovich (live, Arlecchino). But I guess that one is pretty, pretty OOP...Any other performances close to it in quality?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on July 14, 2007, 04:38:35 PM
I'd like to see everything by (pianist) Youri Egorov come back in print and STAY in print...



Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Tancata on July 15, 2007, 01:51:34 PM
I wouldn't mind Joshua Rifkin's Bach - H-moll Messe.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Harry Collier on July 16, 2007, 12:33:06 AM
I would love to hear the Tchaikovsky Piano Trio by Kogan, Gilels and Rostropovich (live, Arlecchino). But I guess that one is pretty, pretty OOP...Any other performances close to it in quality?

I suspect that now Rostropovich has gone, and his feud with Kogan can be buried, someone might be able to re-issue this -- although being a 1952 recording, it is now well out of copyright. A good alternative, if it's still around, is the 1997 recording by Vadim Repin, Daniel Yablonsky and Boris Berezovsky (coupled with an excellent Shostakovich second piano trio).

Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on July 16, 2007, 01:09:04 AM
I suspect that now Rostropovich has gone, and his feud with Kogan can be buried, someone might be able to re-issue this -- although being a 1952 recording, it is now well out of copyright.

A question - I have no idea how copyright for recordings works, and would like to finally learn this: when does a recording go out of copyright? (I know that in the case of books only the copyright owner's death date counts.)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Que on July 16, 2007, 01:26:51 AM
A question - I have no idea how copyright for recordings works, and would like to finally learn this: when does a recording go out of copyright? (I know that in the case of books only the copyright owner's death date counts.)

The example you give is of an author's intellecual property right - 70 years after the author's death in the EU.
Rights to a recording/performance are called "related" or "neighbouring" rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Related_rights) - 50 years after the recording was made in the EU.
Sometimes longer in the US - the reason why, for instance, many Naxos Historical issues are not available in the US!

Q
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on July 16, 2007, 02:54:20 AM
The example you give is of an author's intellecual property right. Rights to a recording/performance are called "related" or "neighbouring" rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Related_rights).

 ::)

Funny how a performer is not considered the author of the recording... ::) ;D

So, if I understand this correctly - the recording is out of copyright 50 years after recording IF the composer has been dead for at least 70 years (or less, depending on country)? Which means that if today I record a piano improvisation, I will lose my "neighboring" rights (for the performance) in 50 years but I'll get to keep my "author's" rights as long as I live (which might be less but could also be more), and my heirs will be able to profit for another 70? Copyright law is amusing. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: 71 dB on July 16, 2007, 03:03:55 AM
Copyright laws do not make much sense. They are more about greed than justice. The time limits are too long. I read the first copyright law in UK (late 17th century?) was something like this:

Copyright is granted for 14 years and if after this period the author is still alive the copyright is extended by another 14 years. Now, this makes sense! The author had 28 years time to earn copyright fees and in less than 30 years the copyrighted material was free to be used by others (beneficial for the society).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Harry Collier on July 16, 2007, 03:56:36 AM
::)

Funny how a performer is not considered the author of the recording... ::) ;D

So, if I understand this correctly - the recording is out of copyright 50 years after recording IF the composer has been dead for at least 70 years (or less, depending on country)? Which means that if today I record a piano improvisation, I will lose my "neighboring" rights (for the performance) in 50 years but I'll get to keep my "author's" rights as long as I live (which might be less but could also be more), and my heirs will be able to profit for another 70? Copyright law is amusing. ;D ;D ;D

Not quite. There is a difference between performing, and creating. If you create a piece of music, the copyright lasts for 70 years -- ie, if others perform your piece of music, they have to pay you a royalty. But the copyright on your performance only lasts for 50 years. Which, in my view, is quite long enough; most recordings are recreations where after 50 years the composers are usually dead .. and the principal performers as well. In any case, the performers have all had 50 years of royalties.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on July 16, 2007, 04:49:34 AM
Not quite what? Did you get the impression I thought composing was the same as performing? Or that a performer's right should extend to as long as a composer's? I never said either of these things. I merely questioned the rather funny (IMO) use of the legal term "authorship".
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Harry Collier on July 16, 2007, 05:24:50 AM
Not quite what? Did you get the impression I thought composing was the same as performing?

"Not quite" true. You suggested that "the recording is out of copyright 50 years after recording IF the composer has been dead for at least 70 years". Composer being alive, half-alive or quite dead doesn't come into it. A recording is out of copyright after 50 years, even if the composer is still prancing around. That is all.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on July 16, 2007, 06:34:24 AM
OK, I get it. I missed your point. You mean the performance part of the recording, and I meant the recording as a whole...

Or am I wrong again here? ::) Could it be possible that a recording of a piece by a composer still alive lands in the public domain without the composer "donating" it?! :o Whew, I find this copyright stuff exasperating... I'm not sure if I even want to know the answers to these questions anymore. ;D Copyright issues in my field (books, translations) are complicated enough.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: gomro on July 16, 2007, 02:03:24 PM
Two RCA Red Seal releases I'd really like to have on CD:
 
Carlos Chavez's Piano Concerto, with Maria Teresa Rodriguez as pianist and Mata conducting.

Luciano Berio's Two-Piano Concerto, Canino/Ballista, pianists, Berio conducting.

I played these to death on LP, and would be first in line to grab a CD release.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: mjwal on July 23, 2007, 04:15:08 AM
I would love to hear the Tchaikovsky Piano Trio by Kogan, Gilels and Rostropovich (live, Arlecchino). But I guess that one is pretty, pretty OOP...Any other performances close to it in quality?
I have two performances, one being the old 1936 Menuhin (+ Hepzibah & Eisenberg) on a very cheap Past Perfect 2-CD with Szymanowski & Enesco, which I find very moving in an old-style way, and the recording that turned me on to this superb masterpiece, the Oleg Kagan edition XXII (on Live Classics), with Richter & Gutman - breathtaking music-making. I'd love to hear the performance you mention, too...
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: RebLem on July 26, 2007, 07:59:02 AM
Someone's talking about CSO records got me to thinking about things that have never been issued on CD or LP, but which I have heard as radio broadcast tapes, which I would like to see released.

One is an absolutely incredible performance--the best I have ever heard--by the CSO of the Beethoven Emperor Concerto cond by Andre Previn with Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli.  Believe it or not, Martinon taped about 30 or so Bach Cantatas in his brief tenure as MD which deserve to be released.

Then there is a wonderful Schubert Symphony cycle by the Cleveland Orch conducted by Pierre Boulez, of all people.

I also heard a magnificent Beethoven Symphony cycle with the Boston Sym conducted by Ferdinand Leitner which deserves to be released, from the 1980's, I believe.

OK, moving on to reissues.  First, a few things that were on LP, but as far as I know have never been released on CD.

A Melodiya issue of the Haydn Trumpet Concerto cond by Rudolf Barshai with trumpeter Timofey Dokschitzer.

The Bartok Violin Concerto 2 with Perlman/Previn/LSO.

The Dorati set of the Beethoven Symphonies with the Royal Phil.

OK, now for a few OOP CDs--

The Caprice label's 3 CD set of the 6 Stenhammar String Quartets.  I have them, but everyone deserves to have them available.

The complete cycle of the Beethoven Symphonies under Mengelberg from 1940 from a reputable label.  It is available as a pirate issue from the disreputable Archipel label.



Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on July 26, 2007, 08:26:06 AM
Speaking of Melodiya, the first ever complete recording of Moniuszko's Halka was done at the Bolshoi - conducted by Kondrashin (recorded 1952, though the production was from 1949). This was issued by Melodiya on 3 LPs in 1954, and never reissued in any form. I would really, really, really love to see that put on CD!!! ::)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Steve on July 26, 2007, 08:30:09 AM
E. Power Biggs, The Festival Sonatas... can't find them anywhere...  :-\
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: The new erato on July 26, 2007, 11:22:12 AM
Weills's "Street Scene" on Decca.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: George on July 28, 2007, 01:56:33 AM
I would like Serkin's recording of Beethoven's second piano concerto reissued, or at least a PM from the owner of an older issue of this performance.  :)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: hautbois on August 02, 2007, 05:05:13 AM
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/de/1b/9ae3729fd7a02f5f4552f010._AA240_.L.jpg)

I will pray tonight so that someone reissues this!

Howard
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Iago on August 02, 2007, 06:47:22 AM


I also heard a magnificent Beethoven Symphony cycle with the Boston Sym conducted by Ferdinand Leitner which deserves to be released, from the 1980's, I believe.


Either you have the wrong orchestra or the wrong conductor, but Ferdinand Leitner NEVER conducted the Boston Symphony, ANYWHERE at ANYTIME. Check your facts. I await your response.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: BorisG on August 02, 2007, 05:58:26 PM
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/de/1b/9ae3729fd7a02f5f4552f010._AA240_.L.jpg)

I will pray tonight so that someone reissues this!

Howard

They may be reissued in a Warner Classics Mozart 250th Anniversary Edition 15 CD box set. If interested, check Amazon UK's marketplace for possible best price, and maybe somewhere else for the track listings.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on August 06, 2007, 10:59:10 PM
I have that, phenomenal.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on August 06, 2007, 11:11:29 PM
Either you have the wrong orchestra or the wrong conductor, but Ferdinand Leitner NEVER conducted the Boston Symphony, ANYWHERE at ANYTIME. Check your facts. I await your response.

Georg Henschel, Wilhelm Gericke, Arthur Nikisch, Emil Paur, Karl Muck, Max Fiedler, Henri Rabaud, Pierre Monteux, Serge Koussevitsky, Richard Burgin, Bruno Walter, Charles Munch, Lorin Maazel, Erich Leinsdorf, Joseph Krips, William Steinberg, Leonard Bernstein, Ferdinand Leitner, Klaus Tennstedt, Seiji Ozawa, Michael Tilson Thomas, Bernard Haitink, Kurt Sanderling, Simon Rattle, Hugh Wolff, Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos.

This is the list (included in this concert's program booklet) of conductors before Sir Colin Davis who have led the BSO in the Pastoral Symphony, Beethoven's Opus 68


That is from an article by a guy called "Karl Henning". Maybe it is even the same "Karl Henning" who posts in this very forum? In that case, he could maybe verify this.

In the meantime, we await your response.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: karlhenning on August 07, 2007, 10:17:05 AM
I may or may not still have hard copy of that program in my possession, but I copied that list of conductors verbatim from the program notes furnished by the Boston Symphony.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Justin Ignaz Franz Bieber on August 07, 2007, 01:03:39 PM
Please, Melodiya, if you're reading this, reissue that Sveshnikov/USSR State Choir Rachmaninov All-night Vigil. The transfer I have is almost certainly a fake, so I'd love to hear the original. Thank you. :)
Anyone else got a request?

I emailed them about that one. I hope someone got the msg. :P

Off the top of my head:
-- Palestrina's Pope Marcellus Mass (etc) by the Regensburger Domspatzen (aka Regensburg Cathedral boys choir). The current pope happens to be the brother of the conductor, not that it makes much difference for the music.
-- a bunch of the cds on this list are only available on vinyl: http://www.bluntinstrument.org.uk/biber/discography/index.htm
-- Harnoncourt's recording (& probably a few others) of Bach's cello suites
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: rubio on December 30, 2007, 06:15:32 AM
I would love to hear the Tchaikovsky Piano Trio by Kogan, Gilels and Rostropovich (live, Arlecchino). But I guess that one is pretty, pretty OOP...Any other performances close to it in quality?

It seems like this recording has been reissued as part of this EMIL GILELS Piano Trios & Quartet recordings 5CD set on Doremi. This I will probably go for even if it is expensive. I wonder how the transfers are, though.

http://classicalmusicstore.co.uk/showdetails.asp?id=5163&name=Piano+Trios%2FPiano+Quartet%2FHorn+Trio+(5CD)

(http://classicalmusicstore.co.uk/asps/uploads/big/5163-1.jpg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: The new erato on December 30, 2007, 06:26:51 AM
The Caprice label's 3 CD set of the 6 Stenhammar String Quartets.  I have them, but everyone deserves to have them available.

Seconded (I have them as well). The cycle may turn up on Naxos in 2008 (I seem to remember having heard that they are to be recorded by the Oslo (or Norwegian) string quartet.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: carlos on December 30, 2007, 12:13:36 PM
I beg DGG to reissued Haydn's 6 SQ op.50 by
the old Tokyo SQ. Never heard a better Haydn
in my life. :D :D
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Drasko on January 05, 2008, 05:41:53 AM
Looking for this CD, but it seems to be thoroughly out of print, any info would be appreciated.

thanks!
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: sidoze on January 05, 2008, 06:21:44 AM
Looking for this CD, but it seems to be thoroughly out of print, any info would be appreciated.

thanks!

i saw this cd once. I remember it because at the time I was deep into Akhmatova and as they had had a brief affair I was rather amused to see it. Didn't buy it though. I'll watch out for it.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: rubio on January 06, 2008, 11:39:46 PM
This one I would like to find. But I guess it will be very difficult. It seems like almost nothing exists on CD with Igor Zhukov. Maybe I will have to put up my record player again, and start looking for LP's...

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61SPW6804VL._AA240_.gif)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Tsaraslondon on January 07, 2008, 02:53:50 AM
I wish EMI would resissue the Elisabeth Schwarzkopf Songbook series of LPs, in their original order. I know much of the material has been reissued, but, in their original format, each was a mini recital in itself. They did bring out a box set, some time ago, and called it The Elisabeth Schwarzkopf Songbook, but this turned out to be just a collection of songs from various different recitals, not the LPs I was thinking of. I'd like to see the original LPs on CD, with a booklet containing the original notes, texts and translations. Given EMI's current situation, though, I'll assume it'll be a cry in the wilderness.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: sidoze on February 15, 2008, 11:05:40 AM
This one I would like to find. But I guess it will be very difficult. It seems like almost nothing exists on CD with Igor Zhukov. Maybe I will have to put up my record player again, and start looking for LP's...

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61SPW6804VL._AA240_.gif)

It's being released in Japan

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2678680
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: rubio on February 15, 2008, 12:34:04 PM
It's being released in Japan

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2678680

Thank you a lot for this information!
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Benji on February 15, 2008, 06:30:39 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419FSCCJ05L._AA240_.jpg)

The EMI recording of Riders to the Sea. I want it, I want it, I want it! But i've learnt my lesson paying big bucks for cds (i'm looking at you, Decca).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: The new erato on February 16, 2008, 05:28:39 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419FSCCJ05L._AA240_.jpg)

The EMI recording of Riders to the Sea. I want it, I want it, I want it! But i've learnt my lesson paying big bucks for cds (i'm looking at you, Decca).
I have this disc, but EMI should do a Vaughan Williams box like the 30 CD Elgar Collectors Edition.


Generally arkivmusic is full of stuff I want, but I balk at paying 15 USD for a nondocumented CDR.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Grazioso on February 16, 2008, 05:50:30 AM
I have this disc, but EMI should do a Vaughan Williams box like the 30 CD Elgar Collectors Edition.


Generally arkivmusic is full of stuff I want, but I balk at paying 15 USD for a nondocumented CDR.

Ditto on both counts.

I don't know if they've ever been recorded by I'd sure like to find Vitezslav Novak's symphonies on disc. He's woefully under-recorded in general.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: rubio on February 19, 2008, 11:35:12 PM
2 items of the Rachmaninov Vespers by Sveshnikov available here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/S-Rachmaninov-All-night-vigil-op-37-A-Sveshnikov-CD_W0QQitemZ330206681553QQihZ014QQcategoryZ307QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

I ordered my copy from this seller earlier, and I am satisfied with the transaction and above all the CD itself.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Sergeant Rock on February 22, 2008, 03:48:49 AM
I'd like to see the Herrmann cantata and opera on CD:

(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/new/HerrMoby.jpg)

(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/new/HerWuth.jpg)


Sarge
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Benji on February 22, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
I'd like to see the Herrmann cantata and opera on CD:

(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/new/HerrMoby.jpg)

Sarge

It is on CD, Sarge. I was lucky to find my copy brand new for a steal a few years back. A quick look at the various amazons reveal nothing sorry, but it is definitely out there, on a Unicorn cd coupled with For the Fallen.

Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: The new erato on February 23, 2008, 02:07:21 AM
Haven't Unicorn been defunct as a label for several years?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Sergeant Rock on February 23, 2008, 06:57:52 AM
It is on CD, Sarge.... A quick look at the various amazons reveal nothing sorry...

ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!! Then I missed it. I'll just have to hope it shows up used somewhere, and at a reasonable price (yeah, as if...)

Sarge
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: The new erato on March 04, 2008, 10:27:13 AM
I have this disc, but EMI should do a Vaughan Williams box like the 30 CD Elgar Collectors Edition.


Which is exactly what they have done!!!!

(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/2066362.jpg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Benji on March 15, 2008, 06:02:52 AM
Which is exactly what they have done!!!!

(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/2066362.jpg)

Wonderful! That's very exciting news, definitely worth will duplicating at least 1/3 of the set.  :)

Oh, and seriously EMI, that cover art! Vaughan Williams looking over a gate... I hope their tongue is firmly in-cheek!  :P
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Lethevich on March 15, 2008, 08:05:20 PM
Wonderful! That's very exciting news, definitely worth will duplicating at least 1/3 of the set.  :)

Oh, and seriously EMI, that cover art! Vaughan Williams looking over a gate... I hope their tongue is firmly in-cheek!  :P

;D ;D ;D I didn't notice the connection until you pointed it out! :D

I am also buying this the SECOND it hits the shops.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: dirkronk on March 17, 2008, 09:22:50 AM
In posting on the Brahms Chamber thread, I was reminded that the Hollywood String Quartet recordings have drifted out of availability again, and the Testament CDs--especially of their Brahms piano quartets w/ Aller and the Beethoven late quartets--are going for rather silly prices on Amazon.

Maybe someone should drop a hint into the ears of the folks at Brilliant, who seem to be accessing some rather nice older performances from EMI and Melodiya for budget release boxes.

Hmmm...

Dirk
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: marvinbrown on April 11, 2008, 12:56:24 AM


  It has come to my attention that the following GREAT recordings are now OOP  >:( >:(.  Somebody give me a broomstick as I believe a few managers at those record companies deserve...I better not continue for fear of being arrested for assault  $:):

  (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZT5XTVZGL._SS500_.jpg)   >:(

  (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416BG40Z3TL._SS500_.jpg)     >:(

  marvin
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Marc on April 11, 2008, 01:49:17 AM
Are you sure about Shostakovich/Barshai?

http://www.amazon.com/Dmitry-Shostakovich-Complete-Symphonies-Orchestra/dp/B000067F6C

Still in the Brilliant Catalogue, too:

http://records.joanrecords.com/epages/joan.storefront/47ff40100017b5ec271ed5d385f406c9/Product/View/6324

P.S.: Please note the Joan Records site is for business-to-business only. But I think it proves that this box-set is still in print.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Renfield on April 11, 2008, 02:12:43 AM
  (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416BG40Z3TL._SS500_.jpg)     >:(

I bought this two weeks ago: www.amazon.de ;)


And that Vaughan-Williams box looks sexy indeed! Well, not Ralph himself, obviously. ;D
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: marvinbrown on April 11, 2008, 02:47:57 AM
Are you sure about Shostakovich/Barshai?

http://www.amazon.com/Dmitry-Shostakovich-Complete-Symphonies-Orchestra/dp/B000067F6C

Still in the Brilliant Catalogue, too:

http://records.joanrecords.com/epages/joan.storefront/47ff40100017b5ec271ed5d385f406c9/Product/View/6324

P.S.: Please note the Joan Records site is for business-to-business only. But I think it proves that this box-set is still in print.

  Yes the Barshai Shostakovich just (only recently  :o) went OOP.  Whatever versions are out there are for the taking. amazon.co.uk lists that item as currently unavailable.  I checked with record store HMV, Zavvi and they tell me that it has just gone OOP- discontinued.   

  marvin
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Papy Oli on April 11, 2008, 11:39:56 AM
The Barshai boxset is still listed at JPC at € 19.99 albeit with the comment  "deliverable within a week (if available from supplier)".
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: flyingdutchman on April 11, 2008, 07:38:06 PM
  Yes the Barshai Shostakovich just (only recently  :o) went OOP.  Whatever versions are out there are for the taking. amazon.co.uk lists that item as currently unavailable.  I checked with record store HMV, Zavvi and they tell me that it has just gone OOP- discontinued.   

  marvin

It's become part of a bigger box set.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Drasko on April 12, 2008, 09:20:26 AM
  Yes the Barshai Shostakovich just (only recently  :o) went OOP.  Whatever versions are out there are for the taking. amazon.co.uk lists that item as currently unavailable.  I checked with record store HMV, Zavvi and they tell me that it has just gone OOP- discontinued.   

  marvin

It's readily available from Germany:
http://www.amazon.de/Shostakovich-Symphonies-Barshai-Wdr-Sinfonieorchester/dp/B00005UW2B

Read somewhere that Brilliant is changing distributors for UK and that being reason for current unavailability of many of their releases from uk vendors. Not 100 % sure on this, though.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bogey on April 12, 2008, 09:25:59 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Z%2BUUSZqPL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)

Vol. I and II
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: The new erato on April 12, 2008, 09:27:35 AM
It's readily available from Germany:
http://www.amazon.de/Shostakovich-Symphonies-Barshai-Wdr-Sinfonieorchester/dp/B00005UW2B

Read somewhere that Brilliant is changing distributors for UK and that being reason for current unavailability of many of their releases from uk vendors. Not 100 % sure on this, though.
The Brilliant offer on mdt DID terminate rather abruptly "Due to circumstances beyond our control" to quote the site.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: marvinbrown on April 12, 2008, 01:32:06 PM
It's readily available from Germany:
http://www.amazon.de/Shostakovich-Symphonies-Barshai-Wdr-Sinfonieorchester/dp/B00005UW2B

Read somewhere that Brilliant is changing distributors for UK and that being reason for current unavailability of many of their releases from uk vendors. Not 100 % sure on this, though.


The Brilliant offer on mdt DID terminate rather abruptly "Due to circumstances beyond our control" to quote the site.

  hmmm...and the plot thickens   $:) !......What is really going on here I am not sure, maybe it is a British thing??, maybe not?   ???  All I can say is I went ahead and bought the Jansons set instead and am very happy with it!!  I really do hope that there is no problem with the Brilliant label in general as far as distribution in the UK is concerned.  I'd really hate to loose the option of having them compete for my money (ie future purchases). 

  marvin
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Que on April 12, 2008, 09:12:23 PM
I really do hope that there is no problem with the Brilliant label in general as far as distribution in the UK is concerned.  I'd really hate to loose the option of having them compete for my money (ie future purchases). 

  marvin

Shouldn't be any problem, marvin.
You could order at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/home), who carry the entire Brilliant catalogue at good prices and they deliver to the UK at a flat rate per order of €6.

Q
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: marvinbrown on April 13, 2008, 12:38:14 PM
Shouldn't be any problem, marvin.
You could order at jpc (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/home), who carry the entire Brilliant catalogue at good prices and they deliver to the UK at a flat rate per order of €6.

Q

  Thanks for the link Que  :).  I usually do 90% of my CD/DVD purchases from the internet, so JPC should come in handy!!

  marvin
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Drasko on June 19, 2008, 01:11:40 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515FG5MXCEL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)

If anyone runs across this one at some decent price please let me know (lowest price tag I could find is 25 euros used at amazon.de).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2008, 01:45:48 PM
Constance Keene playing Chopin. It's so out of print, I can't even remember what she plays (and have never found it anywhere on the internet, except, oddly, a bunch of illegal torrent sites I don't know how to use).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Renfield on June 19, 2008, 01:50:55 PM
Constance Keene playing Chopin. It's so out of print, I can't even remember what she plays

Hopefully not Liszt, or Scarlatti? :P


What's so special about it, pray tell? :)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
Hopefully not Liszt, or Scarlatti? :P


What's so special about it, pray tell? :)
I think it's the Etudes. J Scott Morrison is the lead voice in a chorus of praise for the disc; apparently she's just the most wondrous interpreter of the music he's ever heard.

Oh, and I just remembered what's on the CD. It's the Preludes...

...by Rachmaninov  ;D
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
Incidentally, Constance Keene served as piano teacher to Artur Rubinstein's children, because he said he had never heard anyone (even Rachmaninov) who played as beautifully as she. Amazon now has a used copy of her Rachmaninov disc for $90.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on June 19, 2008, 05:15:57 PM
It's Rachmaninoff  ::)


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515FG5MXCEL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)

If anyone runs across this one at some decent price please let me know (lowest price tag I could find is 25 euros used at amazon.de).

I have that. It may be a while before I find it, but I will let you know when I do. Pretty good CD but not so mega-essential though. There was something else that Ashkenazy recorded in St.P. I think it was DSCH7. Whatever it is, I have it, too!
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on June 19, 2008, 11:24:18 PM
Please stand by while I split this discussion into a separate topic. $:)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Maciek on June 19, 2008, 11:27:50 PM
Done (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,8119.0.html).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Drasko on June 20, 2008, 02:00:10 PM
I have that. It may be a while before I find it, but I will let you know when I do. Pretty good CD but not so mega-essential though. There was something else that Ashkenazy recorded in St.P. I think it was DSCH7. Whatever it is, I have it, too!

That would be nice, thanks. Probably not mega-essential for Firebird but there are so few recordings of Symphony in E-flat and even less in print.
Ashkenazy recorded Shostakovich's 7th and 11th in St.Petersburg, haven't heard neither but am curious about 11th in particular since he delivers what I think is possibly fastest adagio ever. I like adagio at brisker pace, but that is very fast at around nine and a half minutes (according to decca website tracklisting)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Tsaraslondon on June 21, 2008, 01:21:59 AM
Cesare Valletti once recorded a disc of Duparc and Faure, which, as far as I know, has never been reissued on LP or CD. I would love to hear it. It is highly praised in Alan Blyth's Song on Record 2. I don't suppose anyone has it?



Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Drasko on July 13, 2008, 03:35:06 AM
Please, Melodiya, if you're reading this, reissue that Sveshnikov/USSR State Choir Rachmaninov All-night Vigil. The transfer I have is almost certainly a fake, so I'd love to hear the original. Thank you. :)

If anyone is in contact with Mark do tell him that his white whale has surfaced. Melodiya has just released Sveshnikov's recording of Rachmaninov All-Night-Vigil. Now it's just matter of time when it'll show up at mdt, amazon or wherever.

(http://www.melody.su/eng/fotos/picture1347.jpg)
http://www.melody.su/eng/work/catalog/classic/566/567/568 (http://www.melody.su/eng/work/catalog/classic/566/567/568)

btw the transfer he mentions as almost certainly a fake isn't, it's perfectly legit licensed from Melodiya to certain Russian monastery who did the release.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: ezodisy on July 13, 2008, 09:14:13 AM
If anyone is in contact with Mark do tell him that his white whale has surfaced. Melodiya has just released Sveshnikov's recording of Rachmaninov All-Night-Vigil. Now it's just matter of time when it'll show up at mdt, amazon or wherever.

(http://www.melody.su/eng/fotos/picture1347.jpg)
http://www.melody.su/eng/work/catalog/classic/566/567/568 (http://www.melody.su/eng/work/catalog/classic/566/567/568)

btw the transfer he mentions as almost certainly a fake isn't, it's perfectly legit licensed from Melodiya to certain Russian monastery who did the release.

thanks. I might buy that. Haven't heard the piece before. I like the simple cover art. Would make a good coaster (seriously).

edit: they spelled his name wrong  ::)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Don on July 13, 2008, 10:21:47 AM
thanks. I might buy that. Haven't heard the piece before. I like the simple cover art. Would make a good coaster (seriously).

edit: they spelled his name wrong  ::)

In that case, the disc is totally unacceptable - content means nothing compared to formalities. :D
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Sorin Eushayson on July 13, 2008, 11:25:08 AM
My concerns in this department are much more conservative than most:

-Beethoven: Triple Concerto & Piano Concerto No. 4 by Paul Badura-Skoda and the Collegium Aureum
-Beethoven: Christus am Ölberge by Christoph Spering, Das Neue Orchester, and the Chorus Musicus
-Beethoven (again): Symphony No. 3 by Jordi Savall and Le Concert des Nations

Also wish more people would record Handel's Joseph and His Brethren...
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on July 17, 2008, 12:20:50 PM
I just need Sinopoli's DG Bruckner 9th to complete this composer/conductor/label partnership. Maybe I'll run into it one of these days at the second-hand shop.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on July 17, 2008, 08:10:53 PM
Or here:

http://www.amazon.de/Sinfonie-9/dp/B000023Y1G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1216357544&sr=8-1

Do you also have the (unpublished) live recording of the 6th with the Philharmonia?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on July 18, 2008, 06:24:47 AM
Or here:

http://www.amazon.de/Sinfonie-9/dp/B000023Y1G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1216357544&sr=8-1

Do you also have the (unpublished) live recording of the 6th with the Philharmonia?
I tried that already but neither seller ships to the US >:(

No I don't have the Philharmonia 6th.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Drasko on July 18, 2008, 06:33:14 AM
It would be nice to see M&A or Pristine Audio rerelease Richter's Leipzig recital containing the last 3 Beethoven sonatas.

Richter's Leipzig recital is coming out on Parnassus

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//PACD96032.htm (http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//PACD96032.htm)

(http://www.mdt.co.uk/public/pictures/products/standard/PACD96032.jpg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: ezodisy on July 18, 2008, 09:03:25 AM
yeah but did they license it from Richter's family/foundation or is it a CDR thing like Nimbus have been doing?

You sure have a way of searching for stuff Drasko
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: not edward on July 25, 2008, 06:04:21 AM
I want Tahra to reissue the Hessian Radio/Scherchen recording of Hartmann's 6th symphony. I am enormously impressed by Fricsay in this work but I'd be really interested to hear Scherchen, who was Hartmann's teacher, after all. I'm a bit scared by the sub-22-minute timing on it, though.

It might be nice if Tahra could release a boxed set of Scherchen's "new music" recordings, given his considerable and lifelong commitment to the music of his time.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on August 09, 2008, 10:18:45 AM
Anyone know of a recording on ERATO with James Conlon conducting Dvorak's "New World" Symphony? I don't remember the orchestra, might have been the London Philharmonic but maybe not. It was one of the first cds I had and I lost it about 10 years ago. Now I can't even find an image anywhere.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on August 09, 2008, 04:39:52 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41N2Q62WTXL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on August 10, 2008, 03:50:47 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41N2Q62WTXL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
My copy has a different cover art - with a picture of Conlon waving a baton.  Looks like the picture you posted is the same recording though. Where can I get a copy?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on August 10, 2008, 03:36:11 PM
Here (http://www.amazon.fr/Col-nouveau-Monde/dp/B00004UQ6H/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1218414311&sr=1-4) and here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dvorák-Symphony-No-9-Carnival-Overture/dp/B000024GUY/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1218414421&sr=11-1)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on August 10, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
My copy has a different cover art - with a picture of Conlon waving a baton. 

(http://vancootenshop.com/osshop/images/dvorak-9.jpg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on August 10, 2008, 03:55:11 PM
(http://vancootenshop.com/osshop/images/dvorak-9.jpg)
YES that's the one !
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: DavidRoss on August 30, 2008, 03:20:04 AM
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/30/77/20e8b2c008a0ee1aaf0f3010._AA240_.L.jpg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bogey on September 23, 2008, 05:59:02 PM
Would absolutely LOVE to get my mitts on these two:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Z%2BUUSZqPL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)  (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Idktct81L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bogey on September 23, 2008, 06:14:37 PM
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/30/77/20e8b2c008a0ee1aaf0f3010._AA240_.L.jpg)

100 bones on Ebay, David.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Defining-Dahl-The-Music-of-Ingolf-Dahl-thomas-cd-new_W0QQitemZ170190533064QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

$30 on Amazon, but Arkiv Music has it on cd-r for half that, but then it's a cd-r. :-\  I'll keep an eye out for this one for you as MMT works seem to surfce quite a bit out this way.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Novi on September 24, 2008, 03:24:14 AM
The various Casadesus/Francescatti recordings on Sony.

Incidentally, does anyone know if the Feinberg WTC are available anywhere?
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: ezodisy on September 26, 2008, 11:39:03 PM
Incidentally, does anyone know if the Feinberg WTC are available anywhere?

It's just been rereleased by Venezia as part of a 6 or 8 disc set (WTC & S&Ps for solo violin). You can order it from HMV Japan.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: otterhouse on September 29, 2008, 12:27:40 PM
Is the 1966 version of Berwald's Sinfonia Singuliere by Sixten Ehrling available somewhere? The Bluebell cd seems to be oop.

Rolf
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: flyingdutchman on October 01, 2008, 07:24:30 PM
Chalabala's Dvorak Symphonic Poems.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: otterhouse on October 04, 2008, 10:12:41 AM
Chalabala's Dvorak Symphonic Poems.

I have those on lp, would you like a rapidsharelink?

Rolf
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: ezodisy on October 04, 2008, 10:20:27 AM
I have those on lp, would you like a rapidsharelink?

Rolf

It's great to see you posting here Rolf (yes please).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: M forever on October 04, 2008, 11:01:38 AM
I ordered those from don't remember which online seller, the order was pending for several months, then cancelled because the CD is no longer available (but it looked like it was from the way it was listed on the site). I would like to have that, too, especially since Neumann's disc of these tone poems with the CP is among my all-time favorite albums.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Lilas Pastia on October 04, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Chalabala's Dvorak Symphonic Poems.

I bought them a few months ago, so they can't be far. If not readily available, a reissue should be around.
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Novi on October 20, 2008, 06:55:37 AM
It's just been rereleased by Venezia as part of a 6 or 8 disc set (WTC & S&Ps for solo violin). You can order it from HMV Japan.

Sorry, ezodisy, I somehow missed your response. Thanks for the tip :).
Title: Re: GMG Wishlist: OOP or rare recordings you want reissued
Post by: Bulldog on October 20, 2008, 01:16:46 PM
The various Casadesus/Francescatti recordings on Sony.

Incidentally, does anyone know if the Feinberg WTC are available anywhere?

It's available on the Classical Records label - saw it at ArkivMusic.  I have it on a different label, so I have no idea of sound quality.