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Title: Anime
Post by: greg on September 05, 2008, 01:15:49 PM
what I'm currently watching:
http://kumby.com/category/chobits-episodes

the first episode of this is so wild.......  it's about this guy from a farm in Hokkaido who moves to Tokyo, and sees that everyone has these robots called "Persecons", which are all really just robots that look women, but have metal ears. One night, he finds a Persocon lying out in the trash and he brings her home, and she's a bit messed up- he has to figure out how to turn her on, and he ends up having to press a button in a certain area which makes him extremely nervous (he's always so nervous throughout, which makes it so funny. All she can say is "Chii".....
by the 4th episode, he teaches her how to talk a bit more, so he sends her to the store to buy panties since he's too embarassed to ask the lady to buy some. Along the way, she walks through the street saying, "Panties. Panties."  Then she's by two girls, whose skirts fly up because of the wind, so she goes and pulls up one of their skirts and says, "Panties. I want to buy panties."
anyways, it's ridiculous in a good way.....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 01:23:20 PM
no one is watching any good anime?
oh wellllllll  :(
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Szykneij on September 07, 2008, 01:37:58 PM
no one is watching any good anime?


No.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 01:46:41 PM
no one is watching any good anime?

Seven years ago I watched Sailormoon. 8) So embarrassing to say, but it was really sweeeet!! And also Candy, Candy. :-X :-[ :-[ Ah, those romantic-sentimental sweet anime series. And some other, too, but I forgot what they were, something about star wars and saving galaxies and traveling on a spaceship. :D ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 02:28:03 PM
Seven years ago I watched Sailormoon. 8) So embarrassing to say, but it was really sweeeet!! And also Candy, Candy. :-X :-[ :-[ Ah, those romantic-sentimental sweet anime series. And some other, too, but I forgot what they were, something about star wars and saving galaxies and traveling on a spaceship. :D ;D
hehe, Sailor Moon?  ;D
"romantic-sentimental sweet anime series".... that would be what i'm watching now, hehehe...... very very sentimental and sweet, but charming. Ever watch a story about a guy who falls in love with a robot (and teaches her how to talk)...
Mainly, though, I get into adventure-type stuff, where they typically have a group of several main characters who are on a mission to save the world, etc. it's like a symphony cycle- complete escape from the mundaneness of the world. 0:) 0:) 0:)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
hehe, Sailor Moon?  ;D
"romantic-sentimental sweet anime series".... that would be what i'm watching now, hehehe...... very very sentimental and sweet, but charming. Ever watch a story about a guy who falls in love with a robot (and teaches her how to talk)...

Well, robots are not really sweet. :o Though I watched an anime series about humanoids and how two super agents were trying to destroy them all...and something called "Helsing". And yes, it was about vampires, but I didn't like it too much. Sailormoon is much more sweet, pure, and innocent. 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Szykneij on September 07, 2008, 02:41:34 PM
I used to watch Astro Boy.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 02:45:29 PM
Well, robots are not really sweet. :o Though I watched an anime series about humanoids and how two super agents were trying to destroy them all...and something called "Helsing". And yes, it was about vampires, but I didn't like it too much. Sailormoon is much more sweet, pure, and innocent. 8) 8) 8) 8)
well, this is the robot....
(http://animedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/chobits.jpg)

 ;D

i think "Van Helsing" may be what you're talking about? I think the have both a book and movie to that, too......
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Szykneij on September 07, 2008, 02:46:46 PM
Astro Boy was a robot.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 02:48:08 PM
Astro Boy was a robot.
well, technically....

Quote from:  wikipedia
Etymology

In the series, the derivation of the name "chobits" is given as coming from their father, Ichiro Mihara, who used the word "chobi" to describe anything he thought was "small and hopelessly adorable". Two chobi become "chobits". The word "chobits" is an anagram of "Chitose Hibiya",[1] and is also the password given to Elda, Freya, Plum, and eventually Chi. The spelling of the title uses a mixture of hiragana (ちょびっ, Chobi[t]?) and katakana (ツ, tsu?). The mixed letters were chosen because a persocom's password requires a mixture of hiragana, katakana, and/or Latin alphanumeric characters for increased security. Similarly, the password Chobittsu (チょびっつ, Chobittsu?) for Plum, set by Hideki in episode 19 of the TV series, mixes katakana (チ, Ch?) and hiragana (ょびっつ, [y]obittsu?), although in Tokyopop's English translation of the manga, the password is "Chobits" (with a capital "C").

The word persocom (パソコン, pasocon?) is a Japanese contraction of personal computer (パーソナルコンピュータ, pāsonaru conpyūta?). In Japan, it is used to refer to personal computers in the same way as the initials PC are in English. In Chobits, it is used with no distinction between modern and humanoid computers. In the final chapter of the manga, Chitose Hibiya explains that persocoms were not named "robots" because Ichiro Mihara did not include Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics in them.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 02:56:34 PM
i think "Van Helsing" may be what you're talking about? I think the have both a book and movie to that, too......

No, Van Helsing is a movie...and Helsing is an anime series - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellsing_(TV_series)

Sweeeet, and human 8) And there was a nice song fir the third episode in Japanese :D

(http://sailorearth.freehomepages.com/PrincessSerenity-Prince-Endymion.gif)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: imperfection on September 07, 2008, 02:56:41 PM
Hmm...didn't think a forum with an average age of 40+ would be regularly watching kids cartoons either... :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:01:27 PM
Wow, I love google. Set ten discriminations.

(http://members.tripod.com/~babstar/Sailormoon_cast.gif)

(http://www.sailormoonavatars.com/moon/moonsync1.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:08:03 PM
No, Van Helsing is a movie...and Helsing is an anime series - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellsing_(TV_series)

Sweeeet, and human 8) And there was a nice song fir the third episode in Japanese :D

Only 13 episodes? That's short......


Wow, I love google. Set ten discriminations.

(http://members.tripod.com/~babstar/Sailormoon_cast.gif)

(http://www.sailormoonavatars.com/moon/moonsync1.jpg)
Ha........ that is nice. I wonder if we still have that cosplay thread, or if it died with the old forum...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:08:17 PM
Wow!!  :D


(http://img.blogcu.com/uploads/aysenurca_Sailor_Moon_6.jpg)

(http://www.sos-anime.org/images/otakon2005/anime2/images/SaliorMoon.jpg)

(http://static.flickr.com/61/181837222_b9d5cc7f35_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:10:07 PM
those are so silly...... i think i'm gonna have to go and search that on google myself.....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:11:58 PM
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1131/1116440017_5569995ce5.jpg?v=0)
ok, this one is good....... best so far.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:12:43 PM
Only 13 episodes? That's short......

Damn, not episode, but season. For the third season. I think there were only 5 seasons, but some 300 episodes.
Here is that opening :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6pHOOILIbA Appreciate it, Greg, i had to turn off Don Giovanni for that. ;)
And what about Helsing, it was short and very uninteresting... :(
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:13:08 PM
those are so silly...... i think i'm gonna have to go and search that on google myself.....

The last were boys. ::)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:16:38 PM
The last were boys. ::)
yeah, i see....... this one is  the hottest.
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h243/sibehsian/miu05.jpg)

Quote


Damn, not episode, but season. For the third season. I think there were only 5 seasons, but some 300 episodes.
man, that sounds like a lifetime of sitting down and watching tv......
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:19:46 PM
best group pic:

(http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/xacur/myblog/CosplaySailorMoon_D4AB/Sailor_Moon_05.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:22:27 PM
man, that sounds like a lifetime of sitting down and watching tv......

Or just 20 minutes a day. ;) For some time.

Anyway, there are some more sentimental openings I loved in the past. :D What a sentimental person I am! 8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Lethevich on September 07, 2008, 03:22:58 PM
best group pic:

(http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/xacur/myblog/CosplaySailorMoon_D4AB/Sailor_Moon_05.jpg)

They look like wax models ???
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:24:01 PM
They look like wax models ???
maybe they are.... or persecon......
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:27:09 PM
These don't 8)

(http://epii.info/anime/2008%20Katsucon/Sailor%20Moon-%201.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:29:32 PM
Looks like those anime-fans have annual expo's

(http://epii.info/anime/2006%20AX/Sailor%20Moon%20-%20Group%20Left.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:30:19 PM
Those don't 8)

(http://epii.info/anime/2008%20Katsucon/Sailor%20Moon-%201.jpg)
ewwwww most humans are funny-looking things, aren't they?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:31:01 PM
Looks like those anime-fans have annual expo's

(http://epii.info/anime/2006%20AX/Sailor%20Moon%20-%20Group%20Left.jpg)
i bet the guy in the shades feels like a pimp.

or maybe not.......
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Szykneij on September 07, 2008, 03:36:05 PM
Hmm...didn't think a forum with an average age of 40+ would be regularly watching kids cartoons either... :)

True. When I watched Astro Boy I was 8 years old. I'm 53 now.


Sweeeet, and human 8) And there was a nice song fir the third episode in Japanese :D

Astro Boy had the best song:

There you go Astro Boy.
On your flight into space.
Rocket high, through the sky
What adventures soon you will make.

Astro Boy bombs away
On your mission today
Here's the countdown, and a blast off
Everything is GO Astro boy.

Astro Boy as you fly,
Strange new worlds you will find
Atom sound jet propelled,
Fighting monsters high in the sky.
 



Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:36:26 PM
ewwwww most humans are funny-looking things, aren't they?
there's exceptions, though:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1M3o4eHc7rU/SEunDe6XyZI/AAAAAAAAC8M/ZBVMSdnUp6o/s1600/JIM_4783.jpg)


(http://bakaaaa.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/shana_-_kipi1.jpg)

more intelligent people wonder why they cosplay and put it on the internet, or allow it to get on the internet. I suppose these two are the more intelligent type?.......

just look at their pondering countenances.....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:39:02 PM
ewwwww most humans are funny-looking things, aren't they?

Well, I liked those. :D But for some reason all those fans are too thick-legged, no one from the  sailormoon series has such. :D

(http://www.geocities.com/dbovela/sailormoonsneocrystaltokyoring/sailormoon_logo1.jpg)

And what is that?

(http://epii.info/anime/2006%20AX/Dynasty%20Warriors%20-%2001.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:39:12 PM
this page is awesome.....

http://www.fananime.com/showthread.php?p=537847683#post537847683

i think one of them is a cosplay for Chobits.....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:40:03 PM
They look like wax models ???

The Japanese are actually light-skinned...like china.

And I think they like to seem light-skinned and use powder, too...just look at those geishas that are considered the beauty ideals.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:41:30 PM
Well, I liked those. :D But for some reason all those fans are too thick-legged, no one from the  sailormoon series has such. :D

(http://www.geocities.com/dbovela/sailormoonsneocrystaltokyoring/sailormoon_logo1.jpg)

And what is that?

(http://epii.info/anime/2006%20AX/Dynasty%20Warriors%20-%2001.jpg)
Hmmmm thick-legged? I don't see it.

Btw, that dude looks awesome. Good cosplay example there.  8)

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:43:13 PM
Hmmmm thick-legged? I don't see it.

I do. Just on the right.

(http://epii.info/anime/2006%20AX/Sailor%20Moon%20-%20Group%20Left.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:45:11 PM
I do. Just on the right.

(http://epii.info/anime/2006%20AX/Sailor%20Moon%20-%20Group%20Left.jpg)
hmm ok i guess i see what you mean now.
although it's beyond me how you notice something like a comparison of leg thickness above all....  :o ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
They are actually normal, but our society loves skinny models that die from hunger. Like this.

(http://forum.exler.ru/arc/uploads/116/post-1215594178.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sarastro on September 07, 2008, 03:52:00 PM
although it's beyond me how you notice something like a comparison of leg thickness above all....  :o ;D

It's hard not to.

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/CUP/G502-130~Sailor-Moon-Posters.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 07, 2008, 03:54:25 PM
They are actually normal, but our society loves skinny models that die from hunger. Like this.

(http://forum.exler.ru/arc/uploads/116/post-1215594178.jpg)
nah, probably just the media likes it.

It's hard not to.

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/CUP/G502-130~Sailor-Moon-Posters.jpg)
ok yeah, that looks a bit weird. So their feet is actually a part of their leg instead of something that connects to their leg....... i'll have to take a note- how not to draw  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 07, 2008, 09:59:27 PM
I'm nearly 40 and have watched a lot of anime in the last few years  8). There's a lot of junk (e.g. Speed Grapher, of which I could only stand to watch one episode), but a few shows definitely approach the level of high art. It helps if you understand the Japanese visual style and dramatic conventions, of course, which can be rather more sophisticated than those in Western animations.

Top recommendations:
1. Haibane Renmei
2. Azumanga Daioh
3. Boogiepop Phantom
4. Gunslinger Girl
5. Planetes
6. Fruits Basket
7. Genshiken
8. Niea_7
9. Gundam Seed

Of the anime shows I've seen, these should satisfy any intelligent adult who can overcome their preconceptions. Mushi-shi may also warrant a spot on this list, after I finally see the whole thing.

I liked Hellsing, though it didn't live up to its potential. Chobits is good too, but I didn't like the fudged mystical ending, too often seen in this genre.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 08, 2008, 10:21:55 AM
I'm nearly 40 and have watched a lot of anime in the last few years  8). There's a lot of junk (e.g. Speed Grapher, of which I could only stand to watch one episode), but a few shows definitely approach the level of high art. It helps if you understand the Japanese visual style and dramatic conventions, of course, which can be rather more sophisticated than those in Western animations.

Top recommendations:
1. Haibane Renmei
2. Azumanga Daioh
3. Boogiepop Phantom
4. Gunslinger Girl
5. Planetes
6. Fruits Basket
7. Genshiken
8. Niea_7
9. Gundam Seed

Awesome, thanks for the list. I'll have to check those out when I finish with Chobits.


Chobits is good too, but I didn't like the fudged mystical ending, too often seen in this genre.
 
Uh-oh, please don't elaborate any more.......
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 08, 2008, 05:22:32 PM
Awesome, thanks for the list. I'll have to check those out when I finish with Chobits.

Glad to help... Although I found that starting to view anime with the greats can lead to a sense of anticlimax later on :(

I should stress, however, that it's best to watch anime in the original Japanese with subtitles, as most English dubs are appallingly bad. Luckily for you, Chobits is one of the few acceptable dubs.


Uh-oh, please don't elaborate any more.......

Okay, I'll try to keep it spoiler-free! There's another fine series called Last Exile, which is like a Miyazaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki) film extended into an epic series, which has a much more fudged ending. Still worth watching, though.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 09, 2008, 10:57:34 AM

I should stress, however, that it's best to watch anime in the original Japanese with subtitles, as most English dubs are appallingly bad. Luckily for you, Chobits is one of the few acceptable dubs.


 
Oh yeah, that's exactly what I do. Just finished watching the new episodes of Naruto in Japanese, and the episodes I'm watching are also in Japanese. Of course, for me, that's half the point.  ;D


Okay, I'll try to keep it spoiler-free! There's another fine series called Last Exile, which is like a Miyazaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki) film extended into an epic series, which has a much more fudged ending. Still worth watching, though.
 
I actually watched a lot of that. They had a huge marathon on G3 TV a couple of years ago...... but I can't hardly remember any of it. In fact, (and i know this sounds so ridiculous), but the last time I even remembered about it was while listening to Rautavaara's 8th Symphony...... I had sort of a subconscious connection, somehow. I think it must've been the art style or something.......
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 10, 2008, 02:17:39 PM
In fact, (and i know this sounds so ridiculous), but the last time I even remembered about it was while listening to Rautavaara's 8th Symphony...... I had sort of a subconscious connection, somehow. I think it must've been the art style or something.......

Well, the opening music for Last Exile was called "Cloud Age Symphony", which sounds a bit like Rautavaara...
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 10, 2008, 02:45:45 PM
ummmm...... yeah. The resemblance is unmistakable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/SUjiXriGFbo
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 10, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
I was only talking about the title!  :D
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 10, 2008, 04:14:52 PM
I was only talking about the title!  :D
 
Hey, it does!  :o
He should rename them.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Kullervo on September 10, 2008, 05:59:54 PM
I liked Ninja Scroll.   :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 10, 2008, 07:32:06 PM
I liked Ninja Scroll.   :)
The TV series was good fun.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: toledobass on September 11, 2008, 05:27:56 AM
I've given anime a few tries here and there and I never really got into much of it.  Though, the one I absolutely loved was:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51bbu%2BPEVKL._SS500_.jpg)

Women assasins, conspiracy, search for identity.....good stuff.  Anyone have any good recs for something similar to that or some other 'starter' anime to check out.

Allan
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 11, 2008, 10:16:45 AM
hmmm...... ever watched Ghost in the Shell?
i haven't, just a movie, but that might be similar.....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 11, 2008, 02:16:18 PM
It's not just a movie - it's a series that's been through a couple of seasons! Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is the name. It's about a group of detectives in future Tokyo, and I guess it's in the cyberpunk genre, in terms of underlying themes about man's growing relationship with technology, but if you liked Noir you'll probably enjoy this too.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: toledobass on September 11, 2008, 02:25:51 PM
Thanks guys, I'll check it out sometime.


Allan
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 11, 2008, 07:16:35 PM
Boxsets arrived from Amazon today:

Rumbling Hearts
Fantastic Children
Baki the Grappler (Seasons 1 & 2)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XExNj6l5L._SL500_AA240_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Rumbling-Hearts-Box-Viridian-Collection/dp/B001AEF66S) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EidfMp4WL._SL500_AA240_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Fantastic-Children-Anime-Legends/dp/B00126809O) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51x%2BjePaAzL._SL500_AA240_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Baki-Grappler-Season-1-2/dp/B001C3O6Q8)

(If you follow the Amazon links, you'll find some good customer reviews.)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 23, 2008, 03:20:45 PM
Just finished Chobits, so now I should be able to watch the other stuff recommended here.


from a viewer comment:
Quote
Beautiful! Loved it!! I was so sad, on the verge of crying when I thought it would end without Chii being Chii and having her memory deleted. And I was ike, WHAT A SHITTY ENDING!! Then it happened :] Ahh, wonderful ending. Wish there was a second season though :]


Honestly, I thought that would've been a great ending. (i don't really understand what happened to make her regain her memory)  ???
It would be more....... i don't know, expressionistic? I don't like romances at all, but this one got me interested so I consider it special. I don't like it when they "finally unite" in the end, it seems to me there's more expressive power to leave an unresolved ending than something cushy and comfortable, like in most popular stuff.  ::)
Seriously, when Chii had her memory delted, I felt my heart stop for a few seconds...... but, that's what I like. It may explain my taste in music, partially- watching that was the equivalent of the ending of Mahler' 6th or Webern's op.1. You feel completely hopeless and depressed after listening to music like that, which goes through intense passions only to end up in a 'bad' ending. But the bad is good, the good is bad for me.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 04, 2008, 02:17:45 PM
Watching Azumang Daioh right now...... on episode 9. This is, simply, a really retarded show. I like it.


http://www.kumby.com/azumanga-daioh-episode-8/
14:00 - 15:10.

This is so ridiculous I couldn't stop laughing the whole day.


Title: Re: Anime
Post by: lisa needs braces on October 06, 2008, 09:14:44 PM
Hey Greg--since you are a fan of animation let me ask you something: Have you ever seen the American series "Gargoyles"?

Here is the wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gargoyles

Disney came out with the show in the mid 1990s to compete with, of all things, Power Rangers--but because Gargoyles was considerably mature and mainly appealed to teenagers and adults, it didn't get ratings as strong as Power Rangers. The show was canceled after 60 or so episodes, but it went out with a bang and had a satisfying conclusion.

The only anime show if I've seen is Cowboy BeBop. I liked it. But I would certainly appreciate more anime if the Japanese/Koreans favored storytelling of Gargoyles caliber.

Check out the first episode of Gargoyles if you have 21 free minutes. What happens in the final five minutes is heartbreaking and sets the tone for the whole series:

part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ0E3dEoP9E&feature=related

part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dupLpzyEqM&feature=related

part 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohqlp1vPd84&feature=related


 :)






Title: Re: Anime
Post by: lisa needs braces on October 06, 2008, 09:23:26 PM
By the way, one remarkable feature of Gargoyles was its dense storytelling--every episode in the series tended to have a lot of history behind it and events that occurred in it would have considerable repercussions down the road. It's a fairly mature show, and that's why it's great. =)

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 07, 2008, 02:21:33 PM
Hey Greg--since you are a fan of animation let me ask you something: Have you ever seen the American series "Gargoyles"?

Here is the wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gargoyles

Disney came out with the show in the mid 1990s to compete with, of all things, Power Rangers--but because Gargoyles was considerably mature and mainly appealed to teenagers and adults, it didn't get ratings as strong as Power Rangers. The show was canceled after 60 or so episodes, but it went out with a bang and had a satisfying conclusion.

The only anime show if I've seen is Cowboy BeBop. I liked it. But I would certainly appreciate more anime if the Japanese/Koreans favored storytelling of Gargoyles caliber.

Check out the first episode of Gargoyles if you have 21 free minutes. What happens in the final five minutes is heartbreaking and sets the tone for the whole series:

part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ0E3dEoP9E&feature=related

part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dupLpzyEqM&feature=related

part 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohqlp1vPd84&feature=related


 :)







I don't remember much at all about the show, though I'm sure I must've watched a little bit of it.......
So it was nice to watch that episode.  :)
Animation is very nice (it's Disney, after all), and the storytelling is very smooth.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 07, 2008, 03:03:10 PM
I just have to say, even though that was dark, it made me think of another show I liked very much..... Digimon- specifically, the 3rd season.

And now I'm tempted to waste my time writing a big, long post about it :P...

First of all, Digimon shouldn't be compared to Pokemon at all. I'm very familiar with the former, and have watched the first 3 or so seasons of the latter back in the day. People might think, for example, that Bruckner and Mahler are the same, but in reality they're completely different. You'd have to watch both to understand. To put it simply, Pokemon was/is? a fun show with a very simple plot, while Digimon was much different, with too many plot twists for the writers to handle (they made an entire episode once that seemed to foreshadow something that never ended up happening), and some very dark themes.

The overall tone of the show, is of course, aimed at young kids- that's why it was rated Y7. But some of the themes weren't very kid-friendly. From every season, I can think of characters who in some way are/become seriously messed up, and have entire episodes dedicated about them trying to overcome some pretty heavy depression. A few scenarios:

- In the second season, it starts off with some kid called the "Digimon Emperor" enslaving and torturing all the Digimon. The main characters spend the whole beginning of the season fighting against him until he eventually realizes the Digital World is actually real, and Digimon can feel stuff. He spends an entire episode in his room trying to "find himself"....... he has memories of his brother, and how he was jealous of his attention until one day he dies and he ends up getting his Digivice, which sends him to the Digital World. He looks into the Black Ocean and eventually turns evil.
- At the end of the second season, this one character is really messed up- gothic-looking zombie dude. He used to be a close friend to one of the main character's dad, who was a cop that got killed on duty. They used to talk about going to the Digital World all the time, and he reminisces about the times he played the Digimon game with him. Then he finds out it's real, and wants to do anything to get there. He spends his whole life thinking about how he could go there with his friend, until he died and then his personality completely changed. He acts as a bad guy and recruits a group of kids in his effort to get there, but things don't go completely well. Eventually, he makes it, but is dying from battle. He reaches to touch the ground of the Digital World, when a Digivice and a Digimon pop up. Then this little, cute, happy-looking Digimon says, "Hi! I'm your Digimon! Nice to meet you".... but then the guy dies, as soon as he sees his dream finally starting to come into reality, and his soul fades away into magic that somehow healed the Digital World. (that part i didn't get)
- At the third season, one of the girls gets a Digimon- Leomon, a big, strong, heroic lion-looking thing. Near the end, one of the bad Digimon kills it by putting its sword through him. The girl is so devastated that she becomes so depressed that she can't even move or talk for the rest of the show (this is what i like to see in TV, which is rare in kids shows- not fancy, happy endings that are made just to please the audience). She gets into this giant red bubble at the end of the show, and stays there, sitting down and staring at the ground. Then she has this monster incarnation that goes out and attacks them- and man, it is seriously creepy!- about as creepy as Alien, Predator, and Chucky combined. Then the character who killed the girl's Digimon comes back to visit these little kids, and he has a change of heart and is nice- but I'm thinking, what if he told the kids that he was actually a serial killer? lol This part of the show can make you feel a bit sick when watching it, anyways......

for example......
ok, i'm done.  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: The Six on October 07, 2008, 07:42:42 PM
Ranma ½ could be the best
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: lisa needs braces on October 07, 2008, 09:28:39 PM
I don't remember much at all about the show, though I'm sure I must've watched a little bit of it.......
So it was nice to watch that episode.  :)
Animation is very nice (it's Disney, after all), and the storytelling is very smooth.

Whole series is on youtube...=)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 09, 2008, 02:56:12 PM
Ranma ½ could be the best
I've only read a couple of the manga. Same with Cowboy Bebop.

Just trying to get through Azumanga Daioh right now....... what a crazy show.
My favorite character has to be the girl "Osaka" and one of the teachers, Kimura-sensei.

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h236/mdjasrie1/AzumangaDiaoh3.jpg)
(http://www.animeforum.com/uploads/Kimura.jpeg)

This guy's crazy. He always wants to see the girls in bathing suits, so he ends up asking if they're going to do a swimming competition, and when he finds out they aren't, he asks for pool water that the girls have been in.
They always keep the same expressions all the time. I had a completely random thought once- both of them in the front row of a concert with Penderecki's Threnody being played- they keep the same expression throughout the whole thing and then clap at the end, with the same expression. If you can picture it, it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 27, 2008, 05:17:14 PM
I just finished watching Full Metal Panic! since my friend recommended it to me a few weeks ago. 24 episodes, and i think it has some sort of sequel.

This is possibly one of the best- if not, the i'm tempted to say the best anime series I've watched. The timing was good, since I was in the mood for something very serious and blood-filled after watching the anime I had been watching.

The overall shape of the drama during the 24 episodes is quite close to my ideal. Starts off slow, with the main character, Sousuke, who is new in school. He's working as a bodyguard for a girl (unbeknownst to her), and ends up following her all over the place. They get really funny with this- at one point, the meet in a train and she departs suddenly, so he ends up jumping out of the window while the train is taking off again and she asks why he did that and he says it's just a coincidence, and this is where he wanted to get off.

The first curve in the drama is where the main bad guy, Gauron makes his first appearance. They get on a plane, and he takes everyone hostage and forces it to land in some military area.  He kidnaps the girl Sousuke is bodyguarding and she's taken to a lab, where she discovers she has something in her that they're trying to get- something that could aid in development of some type of nuclear weapon. Sousuke comes to the rescue and they end up having to run through a field against all odds.

Eventually, they get back to daily life for awhile. Their relationship is complex because the girl, Chidori, overreacts all the time. Eventually, he invites her to some island, and the second curve in the drama starts.

They end up having to go to the Captain's submarine where Gauron again makes an appearance and takes control of the sub. This continues until the last episode. At the end, Sousuke and Chidori are fishing. That's about it.

The overall production is like watching a movie, all the way through. There's constant tension throughout, and just lets up a little when Gauron is not in action and they are in school. Anyways, I really recommend it. 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on November 28, 2008, 09:17:19 AM
I recently got back into anime again, in the past few months I watched--

Witchblade: poor start, but ends up being fantastic. ****
Hellsing: good start, but ending ends up too bombastic Akira style. **1/2

My favorite anime are Lain and Cowboy Bebop.  Anyway I'm about to start Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Diletante on November 28, 2008, 03:12:56 PM
When I was younger I used to watch Cardcaptor Sakura and Pokémon hehe.

I have the whole Cowboy Bebop series. I haven't watched it completely, but it is very good.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: mn dave on November 28, 2008, 07:43:45 PM
I dug Starblazers way back when.

(http://www.filmbuffonline.com/ReadingRoom/images/StarBlazers2.jpg)

Last I checked, it was damn expensive on DVD.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 28, 2008, 07:45:38 PM
When I was younger I used to watch Cardcaptor Sakura and Pokémon hehe.

I think I might still have the Cardcaptors movie on VHS somewhere.......
I used to watch it as much as I could until my mom argued that it was a bad show, because of all the magic  ::)
One of the shows that was pretty inspiring, in a mystical way. I even wrote a story a long time ago (unfinished, i guess), where they're in class and there's some type of storm and they try to escape, but both doors are out locked, although that's all I remember for now.

Well, today at work, my friend talked me into watching Fooly Cooly, since it's only 6 episodes. Just watched the first I don't know what to think, at all. But I also have to watch the rest of Naruto Shippuden- it's at 80+ episodes and i left off at 34.  :-\
So they're telling me to watch all these other anime, too, but I can't too much.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on November 29, 2008, 02:22:29 PM
Well, today at work, my friend talked me into watching Fooly Cooly, since it's only 6 episodes.

That's how I feel about the show as well!  It's very strange! :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 30, 2008, 08:11:08 PM
That's how I feel about the show as well!  It's very strange! :D
The most avant-garde anime I've seen yet. It's supposed to "loop back in on itself if you watch episode 6 and then 1", and "if you do watch the whole series over again, it doesn't seem like the same show you watched before." I'm not sure about that...... maybe if you weren't paying much attention, i could see.......
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 06, 2008, 04:01:43 PM
Just finished Welcome to the NHK this morning, which i watched (24 episodes) in a week. There's no words to describe this anime... the last few days it's all i could think about. I'll try to write to encourage someone, anyone to watch this.....

Here's the scenario, and my thoughts (don't read if you're not into spoilers).


The main character, Satou, is a guy who is a hikikomori in Tokyo. Hikikomoris are a special type of people who isolate themselves in an apartment and live off of their parent's income, but almost never go outside. The NHK in the title stands for "Nippon Hikikomori Kyoukai", which means "Japanese Hikikomori Society/Organization". One of the main themes that goes on in the show is the little devil characters that represent that and taunt him. This society is something that he has made up in his mind, believing that this society is a secret organization that is trying to turn the whole world into hikikomoris, and he is a victim- which explains why he dropped out.

One day, a girl named Misaki (my new avatar) and her aunt pass out fliers about hikikomori-related stuff. He reveals (in a crazy way) that he's a hikikomori, so the girl makes up a project for him and they have to see each other at night at the park for lessons on how to stop being one. Lessons seem to be random, almost, though mostly dealing with psychology. At one point, they talk about Freud and she tries to interpret one of his dreams. He already knows about Freud so he mentions in his dream, that there is a huge serpent in the ocean with a sword for a tale, being put into an apple. LOL!!!!

There's two more main characters- Yamazaki and Sempai. He meets Yamazaki when he gets irritated at the music being played next door, so he knocks on the door and yells for him to turn it off. It turns out that when Yamazaki answered, he had no idea it was him- he knew him from a time when he tried to help him out during a bullying situation. During the course of the show, they spend most of the time trying to develop an adult game- a "galge."

The other character, an insanely depressed pretty lady, Sempai, is a friend who used to go to school with Satou before he dropped out.... he had relations with her without "properly dating." She seems to be the one who is feeding his mind with the conspiracy stories.... she keeps on saying everything is a conspiracy, and that's why she's always miserable.

I have two favorite scenarios in the show. The first is when Sempai invites Satou to a getaway retreat (he has no idea what it really is and think it's some sort of date). They get on a yacht and there's several really depressed people on there. They stop at an island and Satou is out having fun. Eventually, he learns what the place "The Island Closest to Heaven" is really about. It's really a group suicide situation- they end up all walking to a cliff and plan to jump off. However, one of the guys can't because he is afraid of how his mom would react. Then, Misaki, Yamazaki, and Sempai's boyfriend ride up in a boat to tell them not to jump. Misaki says she needs Satou because he is the only person she knows that's worse than her. That makes him so mad he tries to jump off (but is of course stopped). He stays mad and skips lessons for awhile.

The second scenario is the thing that got me most. The final episodes are simply undescribable. Misaki gives little hints about her upcoming plan for suicide. She feels that since Satou has gotten better, and doesn't need her, so she is completely useless. Her last lecture is about famous last words. The next night, an ambulance drives up to her house, and she is taking to a hospital, because she passed out in the bathtub from cutting her wrists. Then she escapes from the hospital and heads toward the cape where her mother jumped off when she was a kid. Satou finds a note which says the same exact suicide note that she just lectured on. He rushes and eventually meets up with her. He tries to do anything to stop her, even saying he needed her, but she jumps off. He pulls her up. Then what's weird is he imagines the little monster things from the NHK society taunting him, and he says he's prepared for the final battle against them, so he jumps off but is caught by some construction work that was installed there. The next night, he ends up lecturing her- how to battle the her version of the NHK- Nippon Hikan Kyoukai ("Japanese Pessimism Society").  He signs the final contract which he rejected at first- saying that they would always be by each other's side and help each other out. Didn't end very romantic at all, but that's okay since it leaves stuff up to your imagination.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on May 05, 2009, 01:51:05 AM
Old thread. Here's some life:

Just watched:

Haibane Renmei
Now and Then, Here and There
Elfen Lied

The first two were completely astoundingly good, with HR prompting an online research frenzy for meaning and interpretation clues, which only led to greater appreciation for the subtlety. Elfen Lied was good, too, and seemed to mix 10 different genres.

Just started Last Exile...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on May 06, 2009, 05:07:51 PM
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Just started Last Exile...
Unique show with it's own sensible style, although I don't remember much of it besides that (i watched a marathon, and that was about it).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on May 07, 2009, 10:44:31 AM
Unique show with it's own sensible style, although I don't remember much of it besides that (i watched a marathon, and that was about it).
I've been watching Gantz lately. Fascinating, but mind-bendingly irritating pace, which wouldn't be a problem if the action wasn't always *just* around the corner.

Basic Plot:

Two friends die while saving a person's life. Instead of going to "Heaven," the find themselves in an apartment room seemingly in Tokyo which a bunch of other recently deceased. A large black ball (Gantz) is in the centre of the room. After time passes, a profile of an alien on earth comes up on the ball's surface, with instructions to kill it in a timed mission. They're all given futuristic weapons and extremely powerful augmentation suits (only some wear them). When the alien dies, they are transported back to the apartment room, where "points" are awarded to those participated in the killing. After this, the characters who survived can all go back to their "regular" lives, expecting a summon the next time Gantz has a mission.

So wierd...


Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on May 07, 2009, 01:52:50 PM
I got your pm. Wouldn't mind seeing your audition videos...

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I guess, in short, I'm looking for semi-spiritual (read: contemplative) anime that has a wonderful sense of abandonment and escapism. I love relationships to be developed throughout the series...etc...I want it all, I guess!
If you want action on top of that, and don't mind watching a couple hundred episodes, Naruto would probably be the best pick. When the characters die or join the other side, you don't like it.
Welcome to the NHK fits your description, too- very much in tune with relationship development, and philosophical, even if it's only 20 or so episodes long. I would say it lacks the escapism, though- but that's exactly what makes the series that series.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on June 01, 2009, 02:36:01 PM
I finished Haibane Renmei a few days ago...

Well, it was a different type of series, interesting, but I'm glad it wasn't any longer. I did like the part in the middle when she touches the wall, which gets pretty dramatic, but after that, I never made any type of connection with it. It's hard to when all of the characters are young girls that are angels...

If anyone wants to know what it feels like to watch this anime, just tell them it feels like listening to Debussy's Pelleas et Melisande. (I think Eric should watch this anime.)

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on June 01, 2009, 03:01:30 PM
So, right after I finished HR, I proceeded to watch The Melancholy of Haruhi Shizumiya. I've watched the first 6 or 7 episodes so far, in chronological order over the past few days.

I don't know what it is about this show, but even though it's only been a couple of days, I'm liking it so much that it's all I can think about, and it feels like I'm even losing my appetite over it.

To give a simple explanation of the plot...


DON'T READ IF YOU PLAN ON WATCHING IT AND DON'T WANT IT RUINED FOR YA

This girl, Haruhi, sits next to the main character, a guy named Kyon, in their high school class. Haruhi is extremely weird, and whenever she introduces herself, she says she is only interested in anyone who is an alien, time traveler, or esper. Eventually, Kyon and Haruhi form a club called the "SOS Brigade." They try to hunt for supernatural occurences. However, the 3 other members happen to be an alien, time traveler, and an esper, even though she doesn't know it. The esper is a normal guy, the alien is a really quiet girl who does nothing but read all the time, and the time traveler is the really cute one which is always violated by Haruhi and forced into costumes.
 
The esper shows Kyon another world which is possible to enter into when Haruhi is mentally unstable. That's where there are giant blue monsters that they have to stop, before they grow big and destroy the world. The cause of her mental instability was possibly because she had just finished telling Kyon the story of when she was little and went to a baseball game, and realized how many people there actually were in the world, and she stopped feeling significant, and everything became boring. Then she started craving for the supernatural. (this is something i can really understand).

But, they say she is possibly "God", and that the only reason why those 3 happened to be there was because she wished it so. Then there's that dream scene where Kyon and Haruhi are escaping from that blue monster to what's probably the best part of Mahler's 8th...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on June 01, 2009, 04:20:01 PM
I`m sorry you didn't appreciate HR as much as I did! I'm just over half-way through Fullmetal Alchemist. It's a whopping 51 episode series, and it's excellent! The essentials of the plot:

Ed and Al are two brothers who, through alchemy, try and revive their mother who died. Without delving too far into the plot details, the procedure is disastrous, resulting in Ed losing an arm and leg, and Al losing his entire body. Just in time, Ed fixes Al's soul to a large piece of armour; once Ed gets a metallic arm and leg, or "auto-mail," the two start searching for something called the Philosopher's Stone, which can, in some way, restore their bodies.

The characters are great, and the humour is always well placed. The story never drags, and, surprisingly, there are no filler episodes! It's got tons of action/fights and great character development.

I've also been watching NHK, but it stalled because I lost all the information on my HD. It certainly has a couple of pathetic characters...

I'll have to check out The Melancholy etc... soon, though.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on June 01, 2009, 06:47:43 PM
Full Metal Alchemist really is a popular series. I'm surprised it's only 51 episodes (i though it was Naruto-like, with IIRC 200 episodes before Shippuden), but I guess that's not counting what sequels of the show there might be.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Renfield on June 01, 2009, 08:31:06 PM
FMR FMA is a rather heartwarming anime with a very unconventional conclusion that strays far away from its (manga) source material.

But they're remaking it now, sticking to the source, with correspondingly conventional results.

(Though let me note that the original series was followed by a horrible movie that apparently 'explained' the plot, and provided closure to the series' open conclusion. But even setting the quality of the movie per se aside, I saw - and see - no reason for either explanation or closure for what was the rare 'unsimple' conclusion to a mainstream anime. Not recommended. :()
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on June 01, 2009, 10:53:39 PM
I looked everywhere for an anime series called FMR (seriously). Did you mean FMA? If so, I heard the movie was just OK, though I didn't know they were remaking the series.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Renfield on June 01, 2009, 11:04:31 PM
I looked everywhere for an anime series called FMR (seriously). Did you mean FMA? If so, I heard the movie was just OK, though I didn't know they were remaking the series.

Indeed I did. I amalgamated the Japanese title with the English one, as I just told you on Facebook, hence the garbled acronym.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on June 03, 2009, 01:33:22 PM
Done with The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.... i'm not sure if I've ever watched 13 episodes of anything in 4 or 5 days before. This time I couldn't help it, though.
Now, I have the sick feeling that you get when you're done with a really good TV series (or manga, video game, etc.). I'm lost. What to do now?...... I hear they released a new episode or something, but I'll have to research that more. Maybe I'll watch it again in broadcast order.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Renfield on June 04, 2009, 02:04:53 AM
How did you find the last episode?

Like the rest of the anime, it caught me off my guard: it was predictable. It should have been 'typical'. But somehow it still hit home.

I remember watching it another time after it finished, after I'd confirmed the exact lyrics of the 'Accende lumen sensibus'.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on June 04, 2009, 10:40:40 AM
Of course, I loved it! My favorite line was when he wakes up and gets embarassed in front of himself, and says, "What the hell was that dream? Freud would have a field day with this." Reeeeaaallllyyy? ;D ;D ;D
And they never say whether or not the new world was recreated by Haruhi or not. I guess it's just a mystery.

Another thing I liked about the show was the interactions between the characters- mainly Haruhi, Kyon, and Mikuru. Somehow she gets them to do anything for her- actually, she could get anyone to do anything for her, such as the extortion technique used against the Computer Club.

And the Shostakovich melody played with computer beeps was sweet! :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 07, 2009, 06:29:07 PM
Anyone ever watch Elfen Lied?
I'm on episode 4, and I don't know what to say... it's exactly what I'm looking for.

One thing that got me interested was that it was the only show rated a 10/10 by a reviewer on youtube called "Mr.Anime." (and he's obviously seen tons of anime). He also warns about the violence and nudity. Good move.

The show starts off with a completely naked lady killing tons of policemen in very brutal ways- stabbing them in the eyes with flying pencils, ripping them in half, tearing off their limbs, ripping out their heart, all with blood totally filling the screen.

It gets darker, and the characters tend to cry all the time, but it seems to be deep and some of the most depressing stuff you can possibly watch (like Welcome to the NHK), but mixed with playfulness because of the character Nyu, who is just like Chii from Chobits. Excellent combination. Can't wait to see more.  0:)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: henry on August 07, 2009, 08:41:56 PM
Anyone ever watch Elfen Lied?
I'm on episode 4, and I don't know what to say... it's exactly what I'm looking for.

One thing that got me interested was that it was the only show rated a 10/10 by a reviewer on youtube called "Mr.Anime." (and he's obviously seen tons of anime). He also warns about the violence and nudity. Good move.

The show starts off with a completely naked lady killing tons of policemen in very brutal ways- stabbing them in the eyes with flying pencils, ripping them in half, tearing off their limbs, ripping out their heart, all with blood totally filling the screen.

I have not watched Elfen Lied, but I have listened to and liked its theme song, Lilium.  I don't know what genre the song falls into, but it's a beautiful piece.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 08, 2009, 06:21:44 AM
I have not watched Elfen Lied, but I have listened to and liked its theme song, Lilium.  I don't know what genre the song falls into, but it's a beautiful piece.
Mmm... I don't know, either... J-Pop?  ???
(maybe not...)


So, in episode 4 you get to see a girl who gets into a fight and has all 4 of her limbs ripped off, one by one, until she's stuck on the ground with no arms or legs. Then her "Papa" comes to see her, and she tells him how much of a disappointment she must be to him. She's taken back to an operating room, and the guy has to stick a needle into her and put her to sleep (not an operation, but to die), while she smiles gently and says "Goodbye, Papa." Expressionist anime, perhaps?  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 09, 2009, 05:56:28 AM
So... finished Elfen Lied today (it's only 13 episodes, which ends up being ~4 1/2 hours long).
I don't want to be too hasty, but I've thought about it and I have to say it- this is the best show I've watched in my life.

Now, on to read the manga!  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 09, 2009, 05:03:52 PM
So... I did some research, and it turns out that   ' "Elfenlied" (lit. "elf song") is a poem written in German by Eduard Mörike that was adapted into a lied by Hugo Wolf.'
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich on August 09, 2009, 06:56:25 PM
Anime (and all other kind of plinky blinky blinky bing bing nervous beep purple hyperactive stuff) is the side of Japan, which anti attracts me.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 09, 2009, 07:50:31 PM
Anime (and all other kind of plinky blinky blinky bing bing nervous beep purple hyperactive stuff) is the side of Japan, which anti attracts me.
Then you'd love Elfen Lied, which is the opposite of that. (I just realized that almost all of the story goes on at night...)

Okay... a two more scenes that are incredible- and incredibly gory.

Seriously, watch these- not so "plinky blinky blinky bing bing nervous beep purple hyperactive" are they?  $:)

1-
The little kid is the protagonist when he's little. The girl with the pink hair is a girl he made friends with, and the other two are his sister and dad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/aO_kUms1L24&feature=PlayList&p=7FF58D06F93591A3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=35


2-
The dog and the other girl are the pink-haired girl's only friends in the world (just to explain).
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/heLjTX1VksE
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Diletante on August 09, 2009, 07:57:05 PM
Ah, Elfen Lied. I saw a few episodes, gory!

And I just learned the title comes from a Hugo Wolf lied, cool.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 09, 2009, 08:00:00 PM
Ah, Elfen Lied. I saw a few episodes, gory!

And I just learned the title comes from a Hugo Wolf lied, cool.
The only thing is, it sounds nothing like it!  :o
Maybe I'm missing something?...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich on August 10, 2009, 05:28:37 AM
The little kid is the protagonist when he's little. The girl with the pink hair is a girl he made friends with, and the other two are his sister and dad.
I do not see the point of attraction here.

In this case I'd prefer the original footage on teh interwebb (liveleak.net, formerly ogrish.com) - but these days I do not anymore feel like ;) My curiosity is now at zero after I've seen a couple of the most disgusting and terrible real things. No more need to see people quartered and whatever has ever happened around the world.

I prefer good classical music and a beer.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 10, 2009, 05:49:48 AM
I prefer good classical music
Hey, I like that stuff, too!  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on August 10, 2009, 04:11:58 PM
Then you'd love Elfen Lied, which is the opposite of that. (I just realized that almost all of the story goes on at night...)

Okay... a two more scenes that are incredible- and incredibly gory.

...
I remember those scenes! I kept thinking: why did he lie to her about his cousin?!!!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 10, 2009, 07:35:30 PM
I remember those scenes! I kept thinking: why did he lie to her about his cousin?!!!
To avoid making her feel jealous. (Obviously, in this show it's perfectly natural for cousins to be like that...)
She liked him, and didn't have any friends, so if she couldn't have him, I guess she felt like she would be back to nothing.
"I just don't know what I'd do if his cousin were a girl..."
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on August 10, 2009, 09:49:56 PM
Anime (and all other kind of plinky blinky blinky bing bing nervous beep purple hyperactive stuff) is the side of Japan, which anti attracts me.
There is anime you would enjoy, but you probably won't encounter it in this thread.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on August 11, 2009, 01:07:08 PM
To avoid making her feel jealous. (Obviously, in this show it's perfectly natural for cousins to be like that...)
She liked him, and didn't have any friends, so if she couldn't have him, I guess she felt like she would be back to nothing.
"I just don't know what I'd do if his cousin were a girl..."
Oh...I understood this perfectly. From what I gathered, though, he didn't at the time have a crush on his cousin, and he could have told Nyu his cousin was a girl and assured her it was platonic. Honesty, I say! It minimalizes blood shed!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 11, 2009, 05:18:00 PM
Oh...I understood this perfectly. From what I gathered, though, he didn't at the time have a crush on his cousin, and he could have told Nyu his cousin was a girl and assured her it was platonic. Honesty, I say! It minimalizes blood shed!
Probably would've been a better move.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: henry on August 27, 2009, 08:49:37 AM
I'm watching this anime called Soten Koro.  It is very remotely based on the Romance of Three Kingdoms of China, which probably is the only reason I'm watching it.  The animation is gory.  People die horrible deaths.  Characters are crazy and do stupid things.  I'm on Episode 3 right now.  So far the main character appears to be Cao Cao (So So), I'm sure there will be more as the story goes.  In Episode 2 Cao Cao has a girlfriend who I think is from the Mediterraneans (perhaps the Roman Empire, the Western counterpart to the Chinese Han Dynasty at the time).  She teaches Cao Cao some Italian word like "amore" and talks about Alexander and Cleopatra etc.  Later she is forced to become a comcubine to a high official serving in the imperial palace.  When Cao Cao finds out, he goes to see the guy and asks for the girl to be returned.  Naturally, the guy refuses, so Cao Cao goes on a killing spree but he ultimately fails to rescue the girl.  She is killed by imperial guards amid all this mess.  Cao Cao is seized and put in jail.  The whole thing is very anti-history, almost equivalent to bullsh!t.  But then this is typical of many Japanese anime out there.  The only historical anime I've truly enjoyed is the Juni Kokuki (Record of 12 Kingdoms), but unfortunately it wasn't complete.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 27, 2009, 10:05:25 AM
I would be surprised to see a historically accurate anime...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: henry on August 27, 2009, 10:40:52 AM
In fact, many years ago (more than 15) the Japanese made a three-part animation film on the Romance of Three Kingdoms, each an hour and a half long.  It followed historical events fairly accurately.  The style and everything was quite admirable.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 04, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
mmm kay...
You can see I'm done with Death Note by tonight or tomorrow morning...
I like it so much that I just have to establish this- my top 5 favorite anime.

1- Elfen Lied
2- Welcome to the NHK
3- Death Note
4- The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
5- Hunter X Hunter

I have to make a list of these things and tell everyone about it... just like the grand "composers" list...

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 05, 2009, 06:43:40 AM
I finished watching Death Note today.
Most intense ending of any show I've ever seen. Even slightly more so than Welcome to the NHK, which is saying A LOT.
While watching this show, you end up having to pick a side. Despite all that happened, I'm surprised which side I picked. I wish enough people watched this show, so we could get into a serious discussion about it. Now I wonder what kind of person I am?  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 29, 2009, 06:35:01 PM
So, I've tried a few new anime- watched a couple episodes each but could not really get into them.
Claymore is pretty decent- so is Clannad.
Just now, I finished watching the first episode of Gantz. I've found it- the series I know I want to watch until the end- the one I have a strong possibility of developing an obsession with.  ;D 0:)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on September 30, 2009, 03:54:34 AM
I wish you the best of luck with Gantz. I made my way (barely) through that series a while back, and while the premise is really interesting, everything takes FOREVER to unfold! I swear there could have been half as many episodes, and things would have made just as much (read: not much at all) sense!

Either way, lots of fanservice...if you're into it.  ;)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 30, 2009, 10:40:10 AM
I wish you the best of luck with Gantz. I made my way (barely) through that series a while back, and while the premise is really interesting, everything takes FOREVER to unfold! I swear there could have been half as many episodes, and things would have made just as much (read: not much at all) sense!

Either way, lots of fanservice...if you're into it.  ;)
It's 26 episodes, so that's not too bad to me (especially if you've ever tried to follow Naruto).
I have noticed the fanservice... ;D
i'm not complaining... just means i can't watch the show in the living room.

I have to say... there is a VERY obvious influence on this show: Yuyu Hakusho. The art style is the same, the show ends starts with the main character dying at the beginning, and there tends to be alien-like creatures and supernatural stuff- but more oriented towards adults given the constant language, nudity and gore.

Seems like it'll be fun!  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on September 30, 2009, 12:12:44 PM
Just you wait until you're pulling your hair out in frustration...I warned you! :)

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 06, 2009, 03:45:18 PM
I just finished watching Gantz today.

Ummm..... what can I say? Other than the ending, which is awful and should never done for a series which isn't continued, there's no words for this series. It had the same impact on me as Elfen Lied, Death Note, and Welcome to the NHK.

Well, ok... first, the bad things about the show. Like I said, the ending. Wtf?
Also, characters are so hesitant to shoot, that, because of that, tons of people end up dying. They just stand there, pointing a gun at the enemy for several minutes and talk while the enemy stands there and shoots them or someone else.
And... I hear the manga is much longer and actually explains stuff. In this case, it seems to be in the exact same situation as Elfen Lied. Both have very unsatisfying endings only because they are for some reason unable to make keep on making episodes and have to come to an ending very abruptly. I've actually read the manga Elfen Lied after watching this, so I understand what this is about. It might have to do with the fact that anime with constant adult content like this one tend to be short because they might not have enough money to do a show that's a million seasons long and 200 episodes...

So... what do I like about this anime? Everything else, I guess. Maybe what I like most about it is the similarity to Elfen Lied- I'd call it expressionistic. If you could describe it in music, the best example I could think of would be the part in Mahler's 10th Symphony where he pulls out that huge screaming dischord, and then follows it with a quiet, tender string passage. In other words- a more concrete explanation is how there are constant intense scenes of people who are valued dying and being ripped apart, and constant screaming. The show "takes you places," or, should I say, gets to you at a level that hardly anything can.

Ok, favorite parts... (next post)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 06, 2009, 04:00:17 PM
Death scenes are the best, especially when they involve characters you like and very much sympathize with.


Quote
Favorite scenes-
When Katou dies.
The guy is the most likeable character in the show, other than hesitating to defend himself and others. He and his little brother have to stay with his aunt? legal guardian? (forgot), who is a horrible lady that abuses them- whenever his little brother asks if he could have breakfast, she beats him because he isn't allowed to ask. That keeps on going on and one day he just loses it and shoves her into a cabinet, and they have to go away. They finally get to live by themselves in a new apartment, and that night, as they are sleeping in sleeping bags, he is transported back to the game of Gantz.
There, while he's being killed by an Buddha statue which is supposed to be an alien, they show his little brother waking up in the middle of the night in their apartment, and noticing Katou is gone. He runs out into rain, desperately trying to find him. Katou is thinking about him "i've gotta get back" and "it must be awful being all alone" and then he dies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/1nc4kyGTaSY&feature=related



Quote
When Kei Kishimoto dies.
It's dumb that she didn't push Katou out of the way, but, ignoring that...
she jumps into Katou's arms to block the Buddha statue's acid that it shoots out from hitting Katou. Then, she finally confesses to him, "I like you" as the acid tears her in half from the waist down. You see them kiss with her only having half of a body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/WoRo0zgovcg&feature=related



The special thing I see in this part of the show is the context- going back to the Gantz game, they keep on fighting and the more they do, the more hopeless everything seems- and the part of the show seems trancelike, with the rain and all. Then they start dying and realize there is no hope, no matter how much they struggle, and have to accept it.

Just like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/V52C_OBBQrE&feature=related

 8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 12, 2009, 08:46:49 AM
This morning, I watched the first episodes of:
Neon Genesis Evangelion
and
Now and Then, Here and There

Didn't care for the first, but the second seems intriguing. It's only 13 episodes, so I'll definitely watch the whole series.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on October 12, 2009, 09:02:28 AM
Neon Genesis Evangelion was boring to me, don't get what the hype is about.  The only recent anime for me is a few months back I watched Hellsing Ultimate, I liked the first so was expected to not like ultimate... but totally hooked, it's fantastic!  Only wish they would release faster.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on October 12, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
This morning, I watched the first episodes of:
Neon Genesis Evangelion
and
Now and Then, Here and There

Didn't care for the first, but the second seems intriguing. It's only 13 episodes, so I'll definitely watch the whole series.
Now and then, here and there is really good, and very mature. It's unfortunate the animation style isn't as realistic as some of the thematic elements, but it IS 1__________0 years in the future, so who knows what people will look like?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 12, 2009, 12:17:23 PM
Neon Genesis Evangelion was boring to me, don't get what the hype is about.  The only recent anime for me is a few months back I watched Hellsing Ultimate, I liked the first so was expected to not like ultimate... but totally hooked, it's fantastic!  Only wish they would release faster.
I've heard good things about that series...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 01, 2009, 08:28:28 PM
I just finished watching Now and Then, Here and There...

a relentlessly depressing series that turns out sorta good at the end.
The plot is actually pretty simple. This cheerful, optimistic boy gets teleported to a place called Hellywood, way in the future.
Hellywood is a place where children who were taken from villages are forced to serve in the army until the war is over (with the obviously false promise that they can go free later), all because of the mad King Hamdo's plan to conquer the world.

What's weird is when these children are forced to go into villages and shoot up other children. And also the scene where one of the girls who was imprisoned in Hellywood, raped, and later escaped tried to drown herself since she realized how she had no future (especially discovering that she was pregnant). So then she takes a stone and tries to beat on her stomach so she can kill her kid, but the boy kept on putting his hand in the way and wouldn't let her. He always kept on saying that everything will get better and there will be great things in the future.

In the end, he does somehow manage to completely destroy Hellywood...


anyways, I plan on watching the first episodes of a few more anime...
X
Ef
Scrapped Princess
Bakugan Battle Brawlers
Serial Experiments Lain

(and i have watched the first episode of Kino's Journey, which I plan to continue eventually)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on November 02, 2009, 09:14:14 PM
I think after Now and Then, Here and There, Scrapped Princess would be a nice "lighter" fantasy series for you! Lain is a trip!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 16, 2009, 07:49:37 AM
Just finished Lain.  :D

This is a series that does require reviewing, since it's very abstract and philosophical, and hard to wrap your mind around with just one viewing.

It grew on me the more I watched, and the last episode is possibly my favorite, since it explains a lot. What's "difficult" about this show is that half the time, it's unclear whether what is on-screen is a hallucination, reality, or what's in the Wired. Assuming not all of it is abstract, you have to really pay attention what's going on if you want to make sense of stuff (though it's just as fine if you leave it as something abstract).

So, next, I'll take a preview of Noir and Higurashi, then continue either one of those or Scrapped Princess or Baccano!...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 30, 2009, 09:19:51 PM
I have watched the first 8 or so episodes of Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni (lit. 'when the crickets cry'). I don't care much for how the girls are drawn, but the contrast between the simple, pleasant storyline and what ends up happening is interesting...

This one is another really gory show. The last 30 seconds of this clip is insane.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/rnMDWHvD2gU&feature=related

Though I might be taking a break from it to watch Elfen Lied again. While Higurashi is enjoyable, it still doesn't compare to the masterpiece of a show that Elfen Lied is- it's like one of those few things that is as close to perfection as things can get. But also, the most violent, traumatic and depressing 4 1/2 hours of anything I've watched... (maybe that's why I like it?)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 01, 2009, 06:07:31 PM
Well, at least I got someone to watch Elfen Lied. He told me he watched the whole series and it was "pretty badass."  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CD on December 01, 2009, 07:27:14 PM
Someone recommended Angel's Egg and Kino's Journey. The art style for both looks pretty. I might actually watch an entire anime!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 02, 2009, 01:08:26 PM
Someone recommended Angel's Egg and Kino's Journey. The art style for both looks pretty. I might actually watch an entire anime!
I have never heard of Angel's Egg, but Kino's Journey would be something I'd recommend.

To describe it simply, I'd say it's a mainly non-violent show with an indifferent, subjective character who travels the world to learn about other cultures. These cultures she learns about- I have to say, are so incredibly dumb that it's beyond belief. If you think people in the real world are dumb, just watch this show and compare and you'll feel a little bit better.

I also wonder if you'd like Serial Experiments Lain or Fooly Cooly... (these I'd consider avant-garde anime, the former having a very serious tone, and the latter being, I don't know, just "crazy" (almost like a youtube poop)  ;D).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 05, 2009, 09:29:34 AM
Anyone ever watch Full Metal Panic? I've watched the original and the Second Raid, but now I just finished watching the first episode of "Fumoffu" (which is technically the second season).

The whole show is basically a back and forth of the life of Sagara Sousuke- during the beginning of the series, he's just being his old military self, doing crazy stuff and getting into trouble at school, and then during the series it always goes to episodes where they are on a mission, which gets a bit more serious instead of lighthearted and comical (for example, the terrorist hijacking in the first series). I tend to prefer the more comical parts of the show, though.

This is what I was watching... I thought I was going to injure myself laughing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acBtQAh7lkk&feature=related
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 22, 2009, 09:19:12 PM
And here's an anime that turned out to be so great that I don't even feel worthy enough to talk about it...

I finished Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni ('When They Cry'). It's a 26 episode anime series, that has two more seasons which I haven't watched yet. I had started watching it a while ago, but stopped after a few episodes, because it felt like it was getting repetitive, but it turned out to just be my own impatience. Now, I can't possibly be more happy that I decided to finish it.

Initially, I watched it just because there were some scenes that were really violent and gory, but it turns out that horror is just a smaller element, and the whole show is more of a drama/psychological/mystery story.

The whole story line is NOT straightforward. It's based on question and answer arcs, which retell the story (or just parts of it) from a different perspective, or shows different events each time (each lasting about 4-6 episodes). The more you go through it, the more things make sense and you absolutely HAVE to watch it until the end to understand stuff somewhat (although I hear season 2 really explains everything).

Honestly, if you can get past the strangeness of this format, you'll be in for something else. Probably if I had to say the best aspects of the show I would say the development of the characters and how they all end up losing it (the way their insanity is portrayed with the expressions and voice is pure genius) due to fear for their friends, or themselves. Also, the atmosphere and the very intensely dramatic scenes involving dialogue between characters that goes deeper than you can imagine. And, basically, the whole show keeps you thinking constantly, so it's very entertaining intellectually, and it's great once you learn how to enjoy the "confusion". I can't say I've ever encountered a better overall storyline in any movie or TV series. Probably the only type of story that could top something like this would have to be a classic novel.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 22, 2009, 09:27:05 PM
Here's an example of the show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/dVcev_WJdJM&feature=related

I guess this clip would show off the acting and intensity of the characters (the best part being the end, when she pushes her twin sister down a well). That's just a small part of it, really.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 23, 2009, 08:06:38 PM
What would be awesome would be to do an opera based on this show.

I can just see it now:

instead of Act 1, Act 2, Act 3, etc.
it would be like "Question Arc 1", "Question Arc 2", "Answer Arc 1", etc.
The whole thing would be 9 hours long, since that's how long the show is in all. It would have it all- be the most disturbing opera since Wozzeck, the most atmospherically sensitive opera since Pelleas et Melisande, and the most passionate since Tristan und Isolde.

People would pay good money for something like this, though it'd have to be spread out to two or three evenings (or just make it abridged to 4 hours instead of 9). It'd be the greatest opera of the 21st century.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: drogulus on December 23, 2009, 09:17:32 PM

      Greg or someone,

      1) If you were to recommend a single instance of anime to convince a doubter that it's worth watching, what would that be?

      2) Could I acquire this on the (arrgghh!) Bay (arrgghh!)?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: MN Dave on December 23, 2009, 09:30:31 PM
      Greg or someone,

      1) If you were to recommend a single instance of anime to convince a doubter that it's worth watching, what would that be?

      2) Could I acquire this on the (arrgghh!) Bay (arrgghh!)?

Is this where we say AKIRA?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Renfield on December 23, 2009, 11:08:50 PM
Is this where we say AKIRA?

End of discussion. :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: drogulus on December 24, 2009, 12:14:39 AM


      Google is supposedly my friend, so I'll see what I can find out about it. Oh, "someone", that clip was interesting. I'm at work watching without sound. Maybe I'll check it out again when I get home.

      I don't know....it's not the cultural strangeness that bothers me, because I like samurai and other Japanese films. It really must be the animation. Also, what will my GF say? She likes samurai films (especially when they act "like doggies" as she puts it, when someone bows to a superior), but anime is a bridge too far. I put a Firefox anime girl on my desktop (high class....no tarts....that's right out) and she looked at it with a very dubious expression, as though I had dragged a dead animal into the house.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 24, 2009, 07:30:11 AM
      Greg or someone,

      1) If you were to recommend a single instance of anime to convince a doubter that it's worth watching, what would that be?

      2) Could I acquire this on the (arrgghh!) Bay (arrgghh!)?
1) I've never seen Akira... (yeah, go ahead and stone me, everyone).  ;D These guys have great taste in stuff, so I'd trust them... as for what I've seen so far, my top, safest recommendation for that would be Death Note- the reason being is that a lot of people like it and it's intelligent as hell at the same time.  8) Just ask Joe- when he started watching it, he became addicted for a while, though I don't know if he ever finished the series.

2) I don't know, I haven't looked. I watch all my anime from the huge, intimidating list:
http://www.kumby.com/anime-list

and if the video doesn't work there, I always go to youtube.



      Google is supposedly my friend, so I'll see what I can find out about it. Oh, "someone", that clip was interesting. I'm at work watching without sound. Maybe I'll check it out again when I get home.

      I don't know....it's not the cultural strangeness that bothers me, because I like samurai and other Japanese films. It really must be the animation. Also, what will my GF say? She likes samurai films (especially when they act "like doggies" as she puts it, when someone bows to a superior), but anime is a bridge too far. I put a Firefox anime girl on my desktop (high class....no tarts....that's right out) and she looked at it with a very dubious expression, as though I had dragged a dead animal into the house.
Haha, don't care what she thinks.  :D
What about the animation do you find hard to get used to? Is it the style, or does it just feel weird to watch a "cartoon" so seriously? If it's the first, then I guess it's just hit-and-miss depending on which anime you watch. If it's the second, then I can understand. Somehow, anime for kids and teens such as Bleach or Naruto tend to be lumped in with ones intended for adults. Must be a Japanese thing- I hear they have stuff next to each other, say, in book or video stores, that should never be that close together.  8)

(btw, i can't really say i care about the actual art style of the clip i posted, just sayin')
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: drogulus on December 24, 2009, 02:51:40 PM
     
      See, there's nothing objectionable about it.

      (http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2707/clipboardls.jpg)

      Yet she says it's an "awful thing". The eyes look like nostrils, so she thought it was a cow. Try squinting at it, maybe....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 24, 2009, 05:10:30 PM
Yeah, well, maybe she's just retarded.

I went to the bookstore and picked up like 5 different manga to read the beginning of for 5 or so minutes each. The first 4 weren't that interesting- too hyper, childish, flashy, etc.

Then I found this horror manga called "Uzumaki" that has an art style that doesn't even look very much like anime/manga. I just read the first chapter and WHOA!!!  :o This is genuinely creepy (yet sort of funny) stuff.


Here's the link to the chapter:
http://www.onemanga.com/Uzumaki/1/02/



What happens is...
in short, this guy develops an intense fascination with the spiral shape that he drops everything to study them. In the end, he...


(don't read if you don't want to be spoiled)
is found inside a large container, his body in the shape of a spiral because he killed himself by crushing his bones in order to form the shape. That is one disturbing image.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: drogulus on December 24, 2009, 09:03:36 PM
Yeah, well, maybe she's just retarded.


     Either that or nearsighted. But she did get me the Samurai Trilogy for Christmas!  (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/angel.gif)

     (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KSmXjU2RL._SS500_.jpg)

     
     

     
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 25, 2009, 05:35:43 AM
Cool gift!  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 02, 2010, 09:04:13 PM
So... I'm on episode 11 of Clannad now. The reason I've gone through this series is because I want to watch the sequel, Clannad : After Story, which is rated on Anime News Network as the 2nd best anime. (The best, Samurai X : Trust and Betrayal isn't really a full series since it's only 4 episodes long).

The plot is pretty simple, and overall it feels somewhat like watching a mixture between Haibane Renmei and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. The main character, Tomoya Okazaki, one day meets a strange girl (in the very first episode). Then on, his life changes. (i was expecting something supernatural at the beginning, but oh well).

During the first 10 episodes, they hang out after school with this girl, Nagisa, their age who happens to be a lot shorter and they try to take care of her as if they were her parents. This girl, Fuko-chan (no, it's not pronounced "Fucko", it's "Fooko"  ::) ) is a strange girl that carves wooden starfish and gives them out to random people at school and tries to get people to attend her sister's wedding.

The strange thing about her is that she's really in the hospital in a coma (this version of her is not completely explained, I assume she's a ghost or something), and people stop seeing her or start forgetting about her. Eventually, even Tomoya and Nagisa forget about her and the whole day are struggling to remember her. Then, all of a sudden they remember and they look right between each other and there she is! "You were here the whole time?" lol...

But I guess this is just the beginning of the bittersweet side of this show. In After Story, I hear he marries Nagisa, has a daughter, and Nagisa dies during childbirth and his daughter dies later or something. Interesting how a show as innocent and charming as this one can also end up in an "the main character loses everything he loves" thing at the end. I saw a youtube comment that said if you're suicidal, you should stay away from this anime... aw, shucks, can't listen to that now, can I?  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 02, 2010, 09:20:18 PM
Here's a clip from Clannad: After Story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/7Msu5_3yCXs

Holy shit, this hurts to watch (especially 3:00 on). I just ruined the show for myself...

Okay, I'm off to cry for 5 hours and jump off a cliff now...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 04, 2010, 08:28:56 PM
So, from another website, Clannad After Story ranked #1 as the top rated anime, with an average score of 9.01 (out of 10) out of 19,830 votes:

http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php

The one that came in second place is 8.96, then 8.95, etc.
There's something compelling about this anime, despite it being so simple (me not being the biggest fan of simplicity).

Here's a very nice review I found. I think in the last two sentences, this aspect is summed up- this show doesn't tell us anything new. It's about the presentation.

Quote

I felt like I was going into viewing this series as I would if I had a loaded gun pointed at the back of my head. The high expectations I had for Clannad were shattered and I was left wondering if I had seen the same show as everyone who loved it. I watched this mostly because I was setting out to prove to myself that I was one of the few people who saw nothing special at all in it. I vowed never to watch another show in the slice of life genre again - at least not without extreme precaution. Five episodes in and I still felt the same way except this time I was starting to get angry. So many things in this show were grating on me – the cliché moe girls, the cliché loud girl who is permanently in PMS, the straight man main character, and, most predictably, the unwelcome comic relief. Such simplified characterizations and it would be stupid of me to expect any depth whatsoever from a show that breeds off of cliché after cliché after cliché.

And here I watched a continuation of the story of these characters whose lives I deemed far less interesting than my own.

I loved Clannad ~After Story~.

No amount of effort could bring me to choose to stray from the crowd and say it sucked. Even though it had clichés. Even though it had stereotypes. Even though I was dangerously close to dropping it.

None of that matters now because this anime means much more to me than anything else I’ve ever seen or read. Despite my tendency to scrutinize, I was able to look past its faults and highlight and focus on its strengths instead. Does that mean I pretended that they never existed? Of course not. But they were such minute annoyances that I realized I would only sound whiny if I let them affect my overall opinion on this show.

I was able to see Clannad in a different light, even if I couldn't change my original opinion of it, as this follow-up finale series brought about twists and turns in the lives of the characters, changing them indefinitely (for better or for worse). These friends go to great lengths to guide one another and it’s inspirational. It’s the best kind of feel good show because it makes you wish you had this same effect on those around you. It makes you wonder why you don’t feel that same twinge in your heart when you spend time with your own friends or family. It makes you wonder why you take life for granted and it makes you realize why reality will rarely be preferable to fiction.

The main protagonist of Clannad is Tomoya, a certified delinquent (although he is the nicest and most rational delinquent you’ll probably ever see) who has an indifferent attitude towards school, his relationships, and life in general. That is, until he meets a soon-to-be special someone who turns out to be just what he needed to turn his life around.

Nagisa is the soft spoken girl whose inner strength and unrelenting optimism motivate Tomoya throughout all of his ordeals. As soon as he begins to feel exhaustion creeping up on him all he needs in order to keep going is to be reminded of the simple things which make him truly happy - like listening to Nagisa talk about the progress she made in school or being offhandedly, yet shockingly, praised by a coworker. Things most of us wouldn’t give a second thought to mean the world to him. And it’s not pathetic or farfetched; it feels so natural and heartwarming.

The beautiful thing about Tomoya and Nagisa’s relationship is that they aren’t lovey-dovey and they aren’t all over one another. I’m not sure if they even kissed once throughout the series (or at least if it was shown). What’s expressed here is that what matters is the notion that they will always be there for one another. And that nothing will come between them no matter what happens. Not even Nagisa’s dad.

This brings me to the supporting cast of Clannad ~After Story~. In high school, Tomoya was often seen hanging around with his unlikely best friend Sunohara. Sunohara provides a lot of the comic relief in the show. The show has many running gags, one of which is that Sunohara is the butt of jokes and is often at the receiving end of physical abuse. He gets beaten up almost every time he encounters the anger-prone Kyou. It’s hard not to sympathize with the guy after a while because he’s clearly misunderstood by all of his friends. It’s a relief to see that he gets some actual character development and more of his and Tomoya’s back story is revealed. Normally it’s hard to take comical characters seriously because seeing them placed in or replaced by an intense dramatic situation feels laughably absurd when compared to the exaggerations and outlandishness we’ve grown accustomed to. But that’s not the case here as comedy and drama are blended so well that it’s impossible to appreciate the show if it only had one or the other.

I loved when Tomoya would deadpan reactions to the people he surrounds himself with. At first I wondered to myself ‘Is this supposed to be funny?’ but soon I realized that the thoughts Tomoya voiced were often those of mine as well. And I couldn’t help but laugh soon after. It’s a shame that these lines and moments fly by so fast that it’s easy to forget even the funnier quotes. Although my personal favorite was when he stated something about Nagisa’s family being stupid.

Another running gag is that everyone hates Nagisa’s mom’s bread. It’s an incredibly simple joke but it actually gets more amusing as the series progresses. This is one of the few anime I’ve seen where the parents actually play a vital role in the main characters’ lives and they aren’t annoying in the least. In fact, they’re lovable and endearing. Nagisa’s dad is one of my top 3 favorite characters of the show. I found it amusing that his seiyuu also voiced the engrish-speaking Mr. K in Gravitation.

Now, family plays a major role in this series. Tomoya is often distanced from his father and their relationship is very strained. Over the course of the series, Tomoya’s seemingly concrete stubbornness is gradually whittled away to nothing and it becomes easier to see why this show moved many people even if it didn’t do the same for others. It feels so good to see the characters come to terms with their mistakes and mature into adulthood that all of the pain and misery they went through amidst all of that ends up feeling minuscule.

The art here is of higher than average quality. The colors are very easy on the eyes and pretty to say the least. The most distinguishing features of the characters are their eyes which are difficult for me to describe because, well, they’re eyes. If I had to make a comparison I’d say they appear almost gem-like. They’re shiny and detailed with very beautiful colors. The characters’ appearances clearly represent the purity and beauty of the show itself.

The soundtrack often switches between being either soothing or lighthearted. The fact that it is so easy to forget that there even is background music during some of the more involving scenes is a shame. Especially considering these tracks add so much while still being so subtle and low-key. I loved the show’s ending theme. It’s lively and enthusiastic and it always seems to promise that happier times are ahead even if I seriously doubt it. At times it seems unfitting due to the significant decline in mood towards the conclusion of the series, but at the same time it’s so much easier to appreciate it after being drained of emotion.

The voice acting is good all around although it does depend on the type of character and their significance to the plot. I guess it should be guaranteed that with a substantial increase in conflict and depth there will also be more chances for the seiyuu to really impress. Yuuichi Nakamura is perfectly assigned to the role of Tomoya. It can’t be too difficult to fall into the trap of unintentionally overacting in emotional scenes. However, he never does and he gives a stand out performance. Mai Nakahara does a wonderful job voicing Nagisa. Although I wasn’t a fan of how childlike her voice was (not that it’s entirely the actress’s fault) I don’t see any reason to disapprove since it does fit her character’s personality. Other performances I was impressed by were for the characters of Sunohara (he’s loud and over-the-top, but somehow not annoying) and, as I mentioned earlier, Nagisa’s dad. A very honorable mention goes to Ushio's seiyuu who produces one of the most adorable voices I've ever heard.

Did this show manipulate my emotions a bit? Yes. Was it cheaply and distastefully done? No. Every scene in this series is integral to the conclusion. Friends drifting apart, accepting and appreciating the company of others, reconstructing broken bonds. On the surface, these are mundane things that can only be expected from what lies ahead in our lives. But what matters is the process of getting there and the decisions we make that will make or break our futures. Clannad ~After Story~ tells us nothing new. It's about the presentation.

And it's truly moving and inspiring.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 06, 2010, 07:39:16 PM
Well... I finished with Clannad and now am on Clannad After Story, episode 6/25.
I watched the movie which has the scene where Nagisa dies, but overall (other than a few moments) it's not really that good.

I went to a site that showed the videos of After Story and consistently, through each episode the ratings were very impressive (the lowest was like 4.53 or something).

The most impressive was episode 21: (41 votes, average: 5.00 out of 5)  :o

How is it that if I never had the internet I'd never have heard of this show? I know popularity and quality are different things, but... so far, I'm still not convinced it's that good, but I can't wait to see for myself.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 07, 2010, 04:41:02 AM
I've heard Ninja Scroll is a classic. One of my friends has watched that one and a bunch of slightly older ones than the ones I normally watch- and since he's a few years older, I make fun of him for that.
I also hear it's extremely graphic...  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CD on January 07, 2010, 04:57:00 AM
Ninja Scroll is good.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 10, 2010, 05:18:46 PM
Here goes me gushing over another anime...
I finally finished Clannad After Story. The only reason I watched was because of the fact that it is the top rated anime out there (the only other one rated so highly is Samurai X: Trust and Betrayal, which is just a 2-hour long thing I'll watch tomorrow).

Ok, first of all- thing I didn't like about it:
1. A lot of the humor is pretty lame and repetitive.
2. While at the same time a strength, at times the whole daily life of the main character, Okazaki Tomoya, seems to be a bit of a drag when you're looking to escape in anime that's supposed to bring you out of reality.
3. The additional episodes at the end of both seasons are very much lame and pointless. They just seem like stories for lame shows that teenagers would watch (like teenage dramas, I suppose). I do see their point in making them, though- to satisfy the alternate story routes for fans of the original visual novel.
4. There is a LOT of J-Pop, kawaii, dumb, cute, cheap elements especially in the first season. While it's a turn-off, it seems only natural, though.
5. The plot itself, when explained in words, sounds awfully dumb.


What I did like about it:
1. One of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my life, if not the most- which is the ending.
2. The absolute profound depth and emotion.
3. It feels like you get to know the characters very intimately.
4. This show can make a piece of paper cry.
5. The characters are very much likeable.

Doesn't sound like the pros outweigh the cons, but they do... quite a bit.

Overall, I like it enough to alter my top 10 favorite anime list: it's at a solid #5 now.  8)

I'll post the whole plot from beginning to end in the next post.....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 10, 2010, 06:03:15 PM
In the very first episode of Clannad, a high school delinquent (though he's actually quite nice), Okazaki Tomoya, one day walks along a path to school with cherry blossoms flying all over the place. This girl, Furukawa Nagisa, starts talking to them and they become friends.

During the first season of the show, they make a lot of friends and form a Theater Club and a lot of stuff happens. At the end of the show, they finally decide to start dating.

Clannad After Story- Tomoya and all of their friends graduate while Nagisa is left behind because she got sick again with this mysterious fever that lasts for months and she has to repeat her last year for the 3rd time because of that. So, Tomoya moves in with her parents and works at the bakery with them, while waiting another year for Nagisa to graduate. Here, he finds something he isn't used to, since he was raised by just his dad after his mom died when he was little (his dad being a drunk that had to work all the time and never spent time with him)- a welcoming, fun, interesting family.

After Nagisa finally graduates, they end up living in another apartment and he's working as a telephone pole maintenance guy, and then they eventually get married and she gets pregnant. Then, while giving birth, she dies. (It's that mysterious illness thing being the cause).

Devastated, Tomoya spends the next 5 years drowning himself in work and going day to day just trying to distract his mind from reality. He doesn't even live with his daughter, but lets Nagisa's parents take care of her. So, one day, he goes on a trip with Ushio (his daughter) and realizes something that snaps him out of his depression- his reason for living wasn't Nagisa anymore, but Ushio.

Then, later, Ushio develops the same type of fever that lasts for months just like her mom did. One day, she insists Tomoya to take her outside for a walk. They go outside and it starts snowing, and then she just stops walking and dies.

Then, the scene shifts to an alternate reality where it shows the very opening scene of the show where Tomoya and Nagisa meet. He keeps on thinking, "If I never would've met her, none of this would have ever happened," and he walks past her at first. Then, he can't control himself and rushes back and him embraces her- despite all of the endless pain from her and their daughters' deaths, he chooses to still have that as his reality just because he loves her so much. Then she said, "I was worried you wished you'd never have met me."

And that scene was possibly the most profoundly deep and moving thing I've ever known.  8)


Here's part of the scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/xwlRyKhpf7Q

though of course, it's only possible to really get the impact when you've went through the series, experiencing what the guy had to go through- such as Ushio's death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/1IwN67M4UGQ
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 12, 2010, 12:57:20 PM
Watched Samurai X: Trust and Betrayal yesterday morning. It's just an OVA that lasts less than 2 hours total, but it's basically the second top-rated anime.

Months ago, my friend (who doesn't actually watch much anime) posted a link on my facebook to it, and I didn't feel like watching it at the time, but I finally did.  ;D

It's a really good one. I can't say it shocked me or anything, but it was really well made- a great prequel to the Rurouni Kenshin series.

For me, the dialogue was strange being so formal and almost poetic, and some lines just sounded silly. I watched the English dub, so it's probably just that.  :P Also, I didn't really get a feel for the characters, but it was still a good one anyways...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 13, 2010, 07:25:49 PM
Today I finished watching Spirited Away and watched all of Summer Wars.

Summer Wars is a new movie that seems to be critically acclaimed, so I was expecting a lot, but didn't really think it was that good. It really didn't have anything to offer, and the ending was just ridiculously cliched and cheesy.

Spirited Away really is a good movie. What can I say about it? Everything about it is good, and everyone likes it.  8)

I had a plan to stop watching anime except for a day or two each month- days in which I'd be completely free to do nothing all day, and I could watch a complete 24 episode series in 8 hours. I don't know how well I'll be able to stick to that, though... it seems like the experience of going through a series is such a rush that I don't know if I can quit.  :-\  The effect it has really is greater than anything in totally taking you away from everything and putting you in a different place. Honestly, it's the only thing that I really look forward to, so I'll give this plan a shot at least.  ::)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 19, 2010, 02:37:34 PM
Finished watching Baccano!, Akira, and Grave of the Fireflies- all of them were really good.

Baccano! is a pretty short series (16 episodes) full of tons of violence and humor. Akira was fun to watch, and Grave of the Fireflies was a really tragic one, being an anti-war film and all. Basically, the whole storyline in that one was this boy and his little sister fending for themselves after the air raids in Japan, and in the end, the little girl dies.

Next I guess I'll watch one of the ones recommended to me (out of Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, S-cry-ed, Ninja Scroll, and Rahxephon, to name a few)...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Ciel_Rouge on January 20, 2010, 09:52:24 AM
I heard of an anime where someone finds a magic piano in a forrest. Any info on that? :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 20, 2010, 02:13:30 PM
Well, I just googled "magic piano forest" and easily found it.  ;D

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7466

The ratings look so-so, so it's probably nothing special (and typically, I can trust the ratings on this site although there are exceptions- I thought Akira was a bit underrated, coming in at #380  and Summer Wars was way overrated) :-\.



Probably the only anime I'd consider (but don't really see myself) watching that involves something likes sports or music would be Nodame Cantabile:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7010

just because it's so highly rated (#11) and because it's all about classical music. I don't think I'd like that scenario- but of course, I do like it when they actually have classical music in the anime (last time I saw that was in Clannad where they turn on a Ravel orchestral work and one of them said the title, and I was ashamed I didn't know it!)  :D


On a side note, why does everyone from Poland here speak such good English? Is everyone in Poland so fluent in English and I just didn't know?  :o
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Ciel_Rouge on January 20, 2010, 04:54:01 PM
Greg, I saw some Nodame Cantabile clips on YT and I think it is worth a try.

I am not sure if there are any members from Poland besides Maciek (who is not IN Poland) and Aramis...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 20, 2010, 05:57:41 PM
Maybe... one day...  :D

Oh yeah, actually, I did have in mind just you and Maciek, even though I probably made it sound like there's some huge Polish community here. But, does everyone in Poland know how to speak perfect English? (just wondering)  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on January 20, 2010, 07:41:13 PM
Next I guess I'll watch one of the ones recommended to me (out of Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, S-cry-ed, Ninja Scroll, and Rahxephon, to name a few)...

S-Cry-Ed.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 22, 2010, 03:04:37 PM
I watched Ninja Scroll a few days ago. It was alright, though very, very nasty.

Just finished watching Princess Mononoke... at the beginning, I felt like this was going to be incredible, but I just lost interest as it continued. It wasn't bad at all, but it just left me a bit apathetic.

I also watch the first episode of S-CRY-ed yesterday, and plan on watching the whole series. To me, it looks like some silly kids show, but I'll give it a try anyways.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on January 23, 2010, 12:12:08 AM
Too bad you didn't like Mononoke - I think it's one of Miyazaki's best.

S-Cry-Ed is not one of those anime that pretends to be "adult" by being pretentious or featuring super-cool gun action. It's just one of the very best shows in the shonen genre, unpretentious, well-crafted in every production aspect, and a lot of fun to watch.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 23, 2010, 05:48:16 AM
Well, the next two episodes seemed a lot better. I'll just take it for what it is, and then form an opinion by the time I'm done with it.  8)

That speed guy.... and that scene where this guy asks for this woman's name, and her last name is "Kiryuu"(which sounds like "Kill you") LOL
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 26, 2010, 07:00:33 PM
I finished watching s-CRY-ed yesterday.

I don't plan on watching another series until the earliest at Monday after next Monday- and then, I'll be watching the second season of Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni- which is called "Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni Kai." It's 24 episodes, so that's 8 hours and I plan on going through it in a day.

So, s-CRY-ed was good for what it was (though I'm not so sure about the English voice acting). It was an enjoyable show that would have been nice to find on TV. Of course, it's not in the same league as a sophisticated show like Higurashi or Clannad After Story, but it was still an enjoyable one.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on January 29, 2010, 02:02:34 PM
Watched My Neighbor Totoro a few days ago and Howl's Moving Castle just now.
I MUCH preferred Howl.

My Neighbor Totoro was charming at times (such as the crazy cat bus), but it just didn't have enough content to keep me interested. Looking at the pictures and the title (for some reason, i don't know why) for this movie, I thought I would love it, but most of it just bored me.

Howl's Moving Castle, on the other hand, was probably my favorite anime movie I've seen yet (if not my favorite, a tie with Akira and Grave of the Fireflies). It's just like Spirited Away but better (screw consensus).  8) The artwork is probably the best I've ever seen- the whole thing is like magic.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CD on February 02, 2010, 08:09:56 AM
I started last night this anime series called Mushi-shi. "Mushi" are these tiny sentient blobs that are below even microbes on the evolutionary scale that take on different forms (some impersonate humans) and can only be seen by certain people, such as the lead character Ginko, who is a mushi-shi (which is like a ghost hunter or exorcist for mushi). The show follows Ginko as he travels to different locations to solve problems people are experiencing through encounters with mushi.

I've watched three episodes so far and really enjoy the "stillness" of it (it's very slow and there's almost no music), and the art style is painterly and beautiful.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 02, 2010, 12:56:34 PM
I've heard that is a really good one- another one I plan to watch one day.
Based on what I've read, it seems similar to Kino's Journey. Both are about a main character who travels the world, and the episodes of both series aren't connected to one another- more like individual tales each episode.

and:
Quote
Staying in one place too long will gather a potentially dangerous amount of mushi. He also smokes constantly in order to keep mushi away. In terms of personality, Ginko is rather laid back.
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Kino only spends three days and two nights in every town, without exception, on the principle that three days is enough time to learn almost everything important about a place, while leaving time to explore new lands. Kino says in The Land of Visible Pain that this principle is probably a lie, specifically noting "if I stay any longer, I'm afraid I will settle down."

(not to mention that Kino has absolutely no personality)

Although there is no direct influence (Kino's Journey coming out slightly later but being influenced by something else). Weird...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 04, 2010, 02:34:46 PM
I watched both Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni Kai and it's sequel "Rei." I said I'd watch them in one day, but I couldn't put it off any longer, since I was too desperate to watch the show.

And, to put it briefly, as expected, it was satisfying beyond my wildest dreams... 8) Watching anime like this is probably the only experience in life that is comparable to the awesomeness of Mahler symphonies. Now, for me, that's saying a lot.  :-*
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 07, 2010, 06:44:28 PM
Watched a few first episodes of a few other anime- Sayonara Zetsubou-Sensei, Mushishi, Gurren Lagann, and Kanon 2006.

The first I just wouldn't watch because I don't like the art style- way too childish and didn't have a good feel to it (though it's pretty funny).

The second just seems like the type that is, like I said, comparable to Kino's Journey- lovely stuff, but probably nothing that would affect me deeply.

The third seems impossible to tell whether I'd like it after the first episode, though I'd imagine it's likely.

Now, the fourth- Kanon 2006, is basically like the blueprints for Clannad After Story... so, that WILL be the next one I watch.  :D I've read that, despite its start it even goes into some deep, cathartic stuff eventually (as Clannad After Story did). I'm ready to fall in love once again.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 11, 2010, 07:28:12 PM
Okay, I finished watching Kanon 2006.

This is a show that is an adaptation of a visual novel, and was made twice- the first series, in 2002 was made by Toei Animation, and the second (2006) by Kyouto Animation (the same studio which made Haruhi Suzumiya, Full Metal Panic ? Fumoffu, Clannad, and a few others.

Although I did very much enjoy it, I can't say it would be something I'd actually recommend to someone. This is not a show that stretches your mind at all (like Higurashi does), BUT this is the perfect show if you want something with a... (how should I say it?) good vibe. The artwork and presentation is so gorgeous, after watching it, real life seems incredibly ugly in comparison.

What contributes to this? Um.... the setting being a suburban part of Japan in a nice town with vast fields of snow, a clean, nice looking school, and the male lead character having tons of friends that are cute, nice, girls. Of course, this is typical in anime...  :D, but again, if I contrast that all of this with something like my old, near-ghetto middle school, it's really sad.

But, anyways... on to the actual content. Pretty weak. Though it does get really sad and melancholy, it kinda loses its deepness when so many girls are involved and they have their different stories. ??? Also, sometimes I'm wondering what I'm even doing watching it, when there are scenes where one girls gives another girl food and then she says she likes it and they laugh while some ear-splitting bubble gum J-Pop comes on, and that's the end of the scene.  :-\ (at least it was hilarious at times)

The last few episodes were indeed really deep, too... if there were an anime that was like that from beginning to end, I think God would try to kill himself just to escape from an eternity of having it in mind. Not that it's bad- but it's just how the presentation is so good- watching it is like having an out of body experience- very sad, slow and intense while as if in a dream, all at the same time, although all of this being very pleasurable.

Also... the only real reference to classical music in this one was Pachelbel's Canon (hence the name "Kanon"), which plays in the diner at times.  :(

As for the others, they have every single episode with some type of classical form in the title. My favorites are "Symphony of Recollections", "The Hilltop Requiem", "The Farewell Nocturne", and especially the title of the last episode, "The Kanon at the End of Dreams." I've never known a show with such awesome episode titles before.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on February 11, 2010, 08:24:41 PM
I have the slimpak of Kanon 2006 on order (plus Higurashi, Kujibiki Unbalance, and Sakura Wars), though it won't be released until the end of March :(

I have to see Nodame Cantabile some day - set in a classical music conservatory! (Apparently the sequel series are less concerned with the music.)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 12, 2010, 05:58:05 AM
Nice!   8)
I'll be interested in hearing what you think, as long as it might be until you can watch them (also glad i didn't get carried away and write spoilers about Kanon).  ::)

As for Higurashi, is this the one you're ordering?

http://www.amazon.com/When-They-Cry-Complete-Box/dp/B002BWD75U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1265982563&sr=8-1

That one looks like it only has the original When They Cry, and you really have to watch the sequel to understand everything...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on February 14, 2010, 05:58:28 PM
I'll just have to wait until the sequel(s) are officially releaed in the West, then :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 14, 2010, 06:09:18 PM
I'll just have to wait until the sequel(s) are officially releaed in the West, then :)
Cool.  8)
Well, I kinda found that out after my last post (that the sequels aren't out yet)- didn't even realize how new the series really is, I guess.

They have Kai and Rei on youtube (Kai being, of course, the "mandatory watch" sequel and Rei being just completely optional, short and seperate story (IMO one with really funny moments))...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRvlA9TSY6Y&feature=related (subbed, obviously)
I doubt it'll be on here long, though (they had the whole first season up, but took down the one I found).  :'(

As for the DVDs, if dubs are you're thing, have fun!
(as for me, i just have to say that I admire your bravery...)  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on February 14, 2010, 08:28:45 PM
As for the DVDs, if dubs are you're thing, have fun!
(as for me, i just have to say that I admire your bravery...)  :D

Not sure what I'm being brave about....
I much prefer subs, but I also prefer DVDs.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Ciel_Rouge on February 16, 2010, 09:02:48 AM
It has been a long time since I watched anime. I recently started Nodame Cantabile. It is one of those which actually make sense and it's rather funny. But first and foremoest, in each episode the characters try to learn how to play a new piece. The first one featured a piece by Mozart. The second one includes Beethoven's Spring illustrated in an interesting way.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 16, 2010, 12:07:49 PM
Hmm... interesting to see someone watching that show. I might get it to it, eventually.

Yesterday, I actually watched REC (the show your avatar is from). The whole series is less than 2 hours long, so I thought "why not?"  ;D
Overall, for what it was, it was pretty good. It's just a simple romance (nothing fancy), but it turned out to be an enjoyable one.

For now, I'm just planning on continuing Scrapped Princess from where I left off.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on February 16, 2010, 06:33:20 PM
For now, I'm just planning on continuing Scrapped Princess from where I left off.
Good!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 27, 2010, 07:10:22 PM
I think I've worked out somewhat of a schedule for anime viewing. I'll keep it to 3 episodes or 1 movie a day. So, I should be able to watch 4 regular (24 ep.) series a month.

With that in mind, my schedule looks like this:
Sunday: Scrapped Princess 19-21
Monday: Scrapped Princess 22-24
Tuesday: Afro Samurai
Wednesday- next Wednesday: Kara No Kyoukai (which is 7 OVAs, and I'll watch one each day)  8)

after that, I don't know what I'll watch... there's too many to choose from.  :-[
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: John Copeland on February 27, 2010, 10:58:32 PM
Greg.  All this is nuts.  And so are the big eyed little people in the pictures and your avatar.  But do you know what?  I am beginning to like these characters, and wonder at their creators.  Am I right in saying that Anime is usually in the mould of an epic, one storyline (mission) after another or one great big mission / storyline that goes on episode after episode?  Have you created your own anime character?
I really do wonder at the Anime writers and where they get their stories from.
Quite amazing stuff, really, so...

 :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on February 28, 2010, 05:03:58 AM
Greg.  All this is nuts.  And so are the big eyed little people in the pictures and your avatar. 
Yeah, they usually tend to be.  :D



Am I right in saying that Anime is usually in the mould of an epic, one storyline (mission) after another or one great big mission / storyline that goes on episode after episode? 
The vast majority of anime is in one continuous storyline- and I'd say more than half of those are series that are 24 or 26 episodes long, so yeah, you're right.  8)


Have you created your own anime character?
I used to attempt drawing and would make up my own, but I wasn't that great at it.  ::) If I had enough time and didn't have so many other interests, of course I could get good at it...


I really do wonder at the Anime writers and where they get their stories from.
Quite amazing stuff, really, so...

 :D
I wonder, too... I still don't even quite understand why (the vast majority of) anime has those huge eyes, pointed chins, etc. They say Osamu Tezuka was the main reason for this, but when I look at something like Astro Boy, to me it seems more American.  ??? 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: zamyrabyrd on February 28, 2010, 10:56:54 PM
There was an extraordinary program (that is, by Western standards) about the cult of anime in Japan. This was on NHK International, Japan National Broadcasting, Feb 28.

I am not an insider about anime itself but I have more than first hand knowledge about Japanese culture.  Given all the expected idiosyncrasies that one can apply more than a few grains of salt, I still found it shocking.

It was surprising back in 1994 when I brought my kids to Tokyo Disneyland that adults and even elderly people were the sizable joyful majority there, enthusiastically taking pictures of inflated Mickey Mouse and Snow White figures. One woman highly recommended before to me a ride she went on several times herself, Peter Pan, I think. You wait in line for an hour and a half and then go on creaking carts for 2 minutes or so though painted pasteboard. This may be OK for kids but my older son, aged 10, was even bored.

But this anime business, (or is it better termed a racket?) is exponentially more bizarre. At the end of the film they were showing at least one temple dedicated to it and sweating guys heaving the temple with pictures of the cartoon characters though the streets. This would be like a church dedicated to Batman. The Elvis cult comes close to it, but heck, he was a real person!!!

Japanese TV on the whole is very annoying in the way they use foreigners. But as one admitted, it doesn't matter if he is asked to do ridiculous things like dancing with French poodles, he gets paid handsomely for it.  This program was in English, so the foreign mascot was peregrinating with his Japanese companion to various "shrines" proclaiming all the while, "wow, fantastic (sugoi)" with a silly yellow wig on his head.

He and his Japanese girl companion went to a restaurant where young women with rabbit ears on their head asked "what do you want, MASTER"? One of these maids was a foreign girl who by her accent could not be a native English speaker. You can make a film of yourself voicing over the parts karaoke style and they give you the DVD at the end.

NHK followed them to the actual house that one of the characters "inhabited". This is so bizarre. The caretakers rearrange the clothes and furniture as though a real person were living there.

They showed the  gaijin (foreigner) in ecstasy walking down the street saying "Wow, this is the actual place where X was standing, fantastic!"

OK, I'll say what bugs me about this. First of all, they present a token Westerner to show as though this is normal behavior outside the Japanese islands. This is supposed to lend credibility or respectability to indulging one's urges to escape reality into a cartoon world, that is, if NORMAL, adult, mature people have such desires.

Also, something else, I found that the Japanese public is dependent on their own "experts" to translate the outside world to them. They don't have much of a choice to discern independently unless they live abroad for long periods of time and even then they don't necessarily shed their mindset. A society on the whole that is programmed from early education onwards to accept the dictates of authority could not but be the forcefed recipients of whatever the powerful conglomerates of mass communication and marketing want to shove down their throats.

This kind of escape from reality I believe is more sinister, the dream factories replacing nature and religion as the means to cope with reality. Going into a moviehouse for an hour or two might be nice but blurring the lines between reality and fantasy is not.  This behavior used to be thought of as pathological. I said to my son while we were watching the program, if such people are in need, do they pray to their cartoon characters and expect to get a response?

A proof to me back then that all of this fantasy business was not benign was my getting stuck with my younger son who wanted out in going through "Snow White's Castle". He was afraid but we were not permitted to escape. Instead we were cut off from the group and there were some frightening minutes, a door closing suddenly at us, until we were lucky to get out. (I thought at the time, if someone were ill or had a heart attack, what would those smiling escorts do?)

I wrote a letter to Tokyo Disneyland that was never acknowledged by them, saying they treated us really badly.  In the TV film they had also frightening characters that come out of closets and rooms.

If one really wanted to start a new religion, everything would already be there--angels and demons!!!

ZB
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 01, 2010, 05:35:36 AM
Wish I coulda seen that- sounds interesting!  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: John Copeland on March 01, 2010, 11:56:41 AM
There was an extraordinary program (that is, by Western standards) about the cult of anime in Japan. This was on NHK International, Japan National Broadcasting, Feb 28.a ride she went on several times herself, Peter Pan, I think. You wait in line for an hour and a half and then go on creaking carts for 2 minutes or so though painted pasteboard. This may be OK for kids but my older son, aged 10, was even bored.
But this anime business, (or is it better termed a racket?)...
If one really wanted to start a new religion, everything would already be there--angels and demons!!!

ZB

Well, looks like my fears regarding the huge eyed horrors was right.
Stay away from them.
Creepy little horrors they are.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on March 01, 2010, 04:49:21 PM
So this is basically just one of those "Japanese people are weird" posts?

It was surprising back in 1994 when I brought my kids to Tokyo Disneyland that adults and even elderly people were the sizable joyful majority there, enthusiastically taking pictures of inflated Mickey Mouse and Snow White figures. One woman highly recommended before to me a ride she went on several times herself, Peter Pan, I think. You wait in line for an hour and a half and then go on creaking carts for 2 minutes or so though painted pasteboard. This may be OK for kids but my older son, aged 10, was even bored.
Well, that's obviously just a matter of expectations. I remember years ago visiting some cousins in a small city, and they took me to view some sort of Xmas exhibition, which turned out to be some plywood cutouts on a hillside. The memory still bemuses me, makes me wonder if I'm some sort of seen-it-all city slicker to react so blase. Regarding adults enjoying Disneyland (which would NEVER happen in the States, obviously [/sarcasm]), it's partly to do with the importance of sentimentality in Japanese culture - life is harsh, so happy memories are to be revered.

At the end of the film they were showing at least one temple dedicated to it and sweating guys heaving the temple with pictures of the cartoon characters though the streets. This would be like a church dedicated to Batman. The Elvis cult comes close to it, but heck, he was a real person!!!
But if you know Japanese culture, as you say you do, you should know that their religious outlook is generally animistic, which makes the spiritual dimension of life all-pervasive, and at the same time (perhaps because of this) to be taken less seriously. As one person said, "In Japan, anything can be a god." Any object or phenomenon you feel strongly about can be addressed as a spiritual entity from which energy and inspiration can be drawn. And the anime fans know it's a bit silly to worship a cartoon figure, but heck, it's fun!

He and his Japanese girl companion went to a restaurant where young women with rabbit ears on their head asked "what do you want, MASTER"?
Yes, that's a "maid cafe". It just seems weird to you because you find it unfamiliar and don't understand the concept. It's just a bit of roleplaying fun, like a medieval-themed pub in the West.

OK, I'll say what bugs me about this. First of all, they present a token Westerner to show as though this is normal behavior outside the Japanese islands. This is supposed to lend credibility or respectability to indulging one's urges to escape reality into a cartoon world, that is, if NORMAL, adult, mature people have such desires.

Also, something else, I found that the Japanese public is dependent on their own "experts" to translate the outside world to them. They don't have much of a choice to discern independently unless they live abroad for long periods of time and even then they don't necessarily shed their mindset. A society on the whole that is programmed from early education onwards to accept the dictates of authority could not but be the forcefed recipients of whatever the powerful conglomerates of mass communication and marketing want to shove down their throats.

This kind of escape from reality I believe is more sinister, the dream factories replacing nature and religion as the means to cope with reality. Going into a moviehouse for an hour or two might be nice but blurring the lines between reality and fantasy is not.  This behavior used to be thought of as pathological. I said to my son while we were watching the program, if such people are in need, do they pray to their cartoon characters and expect to get a response?
Again, you're reading too much into this. And your comment about praying leads me to believe a lot of your objections arise from a fundamentalist Christian aversion to "pagan" culture. So much for cultural understanding.

I wrote a letter to Tokyo Disneyland that was never acknowledged by them, saying they treated us really badly.  In the TV film they had also frightening characters that come out of closets and rooms.
Ohnoes scary cartoons! You know we have spookhouses in the West, right?

If one really wanted to start a new religion, everything would already be there--angels and demons!!!
There's that fundamentalism again. Do you really have "more than first hand knowledge about Japanese culture"?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 01, 2010, 05:35:28 PM
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do they pray to their cartoon characters and expect to get a response?
That'd be about as effective as praying to any other "god"...  :D


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At the end of the film they were showing at least one temple dedicated to it and sweating guys heaving the temple with pictures of the cartoon characters though the streets. This would be like a church dedicated to Batman
Sounds like the documentary tended to show extreme cases of otaku-ism... but, I guess that's what makes documentaries interesting.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 01, 2010, 07:02:13 PM
lol, John, your avatar looks just like you...

though my favorite was one where you had the caption "My features after listening to Messiaen" (or Rautavaara?) and had a picture of you in a sky setting with bunch of thunder bolts and stuff... you don't have all those pics saved on your computer, do you?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: zamyrabyrd on March 01, 2010, 07:09:08 PM
So this is basically just one of those "Japanese people are weird" posts?
... Do you really have "more than first hand knowledge about Japanese culture"?

I am married to one.

ZB
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 04, 2010, 07:52:34 AM
So... I lied. I decided to get it all over with.  ;D
I finished all of them- Scrapped Princess, Afro Samurai, and Kara no Kyoukai.

Scrapped Princess was a pretty decent fantasy series, though I had trouble "getting into" it. None of the characters interested me much, though there were some interesting scenes at times.

Afro Samurai didn't even seem like an anime at all. The style is just... different. Storywise, there's not much to it, but there's a lot of crazy fighting. It did catch my attention in the beginning, but over the course of the thing, I can only take so many fight scenes until it becomes... yawn.

Kara no Kyoukai was the best one out of the 3. This series is divided into 7 different movies/episodes, which add up to be as long as the typical anime series (~8 hours). All of the movies are 50 minutes each, except for 5 and 7, which happen to be 2 hours long each (and also are the ones which are very highly rated (#9 and #17 in the top anime positions at myanimelist.net)).

To describe this series... in one word, dark. The whole art style is dark. Blue and black, my favorite colors, are used throughout the whole series, and you wonder if the setting is Gotham City, since nearly every scene takes place at night in the city. The story line basically involves the protagonist, who is a girl, and a serial killer- the details just go over my head, being really hard to follow.

My favorite out of all of the movies was 7. It seems to be the most contemplative and deep out of all of them, although it's very, very easy to fall asleep to if you're not careful. The series has everything I'm looking for in an anime, and I really liked it, though I'm surprised I don't feel as if it's one of my favorites. But, I think if I came back to it a year from now, it just might be. Probably more than one viewing would be needed to get a grasp of something like this.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 04, 2010, 07:58:32 AM
I think I'll have to take a break from these show for awhile. This time, I'll succeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and not think about interesting-sounding shows like Monster:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/19/Monster

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Kenzou Tenma, a brilliant Japanese brain surgeon working in Germany, saves the life of a small boy who has been shot in the head. Little does he know that doing so would destroy his entire career at the hospital and that his fiancé would leave him. When the hospital director and doctors of the hospital staff are suddenly murdered, he gets a second chance but also renders him as the main suspect to the murders. Life goes on for Tenma as he saves people at the hospital, and he goes back to the joy of being a surgeon again.

Years later, an injured thief gets brought to the hospital. After Tenma saves his life, he finds out that the thief is involved with the rising count of serial murders happening in Germany. Suddenly Tenma is involved in it all when the little boy, who is now a young man, turns up and kills the thief in cold blood right in front of Tenma. Now Tenma must clear his name, find out more about the boy he saved in the past, and reevaluate what the value of life is.
:(
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 18, 2010, 06:14:36 PM
http://www.kumby.com/monster-episode-1/

I watched the first episode of Monster, and whoa! Great stuff!  :o
I can tell this is going to be one psychological roller coaster... definitely not "enjoyable" or "entertaining" series, but more like a philosophical one.

The way they portray the characters itself is very realistic, and the situation in that first episode I just saw was very thought-provoking. I really recommend anyone reading this to check it out and tell me what you think- it's only 20 minutes long...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 19, 2010, 03:15:21 PM
As for what the complete opposite of what that show is...

I watched the first episode of K-On! just because I need a break to watch some entertaining, light, fluffy, stupid, pointless, bippity boppity ping ping poing poing pong pong splash random baboppers anime after having gone through:

-reading Crime and Punishment
-reading The Stranger
-watching Kara no Kyoukai
-playing/watching Xenogears
-watching both live-action Higurashi movies
-having watched a few episodes of Monster

Going through all of that type of stuff in such a short timespan as I did couldn't possibly be healthy for anyone. Out of all of those, I'd say the "lightest" thing to go through was reading The Stranger. So, yes, everyone one of those is some HEAVY SHIT. Xenogears, for one, happens to be possibly the most epic, over-the-top storyline I've encountered anywhere (though not necessarily my favorite).

Monster, after watching 3 episodes, is making me feel a bit depressed. I'm not sure I want to enter the dark, 70-something episode world of a brain surgeon that has to make challenging ethical choices and be a prime suspect in a grisly murder.

I think I might just eat cotton candy for a few days, watch K-On (maybe even Spongebob), play Twister, and listen to Prokofiev scherzos...  ???
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on March 22, 2010, 05:13:51 PM
I didn't even know there were any Higurashi movies. What are they like? I find Japanese live-action sf/fantasy tends to be weaker than the animated alternative.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 23, 2010, 05:54:37 AM
In my opinion, they're surprisingly good. You might find a few disappointing things here and there, but overall, the story arcs (1 each movie) flow very well, and the actors are pretty good (especially Rena).

It stays pretty close to the original, overall. They did the first movie as the first story arc and the second movie as the last story arc (both of the first season). So, they basically skip the whole middle of the first season, which means skipping a lot of gruesome (and psychologically fascinating) content. However, they almost make up for it with a killer nail-in-food scene which outdoes the original.  :D

I hope they do the second season some justice. Even though there's hardly any gore and all, the 2nd season is possibly even better. The mind games it does to the viewer aren't quite as crazy as the 1st, but it's more straightforward, clever, and has more spirit than the 1st. I think they'd do good with that if they make 2nd season movies.  8)


As a side note... I didn't want to sit through 12 more episodes (plus specials) of K-On. Looks kinda funny at times, but overall, seems like a really dumb show. Resuming Monster.  8)
(9/72)  :-X
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Lethevich on March 25, 2010, 01:19:17 AM
http://www.kumby.com/monster-episode-1/

I watched the first episode of Monster, and whoa! Great stuff!  :o
I can tell this is going to be one psychological roller coaster... definitely not "enjoyable" or "entertaining" series, but more like a philosophical one.

The way they portray the characters itself is very realistic, and the situation in that first episode I just saw was very thought-provoking. I really recommend anyone reading this to check it out and tell me what you think- it's only 20 minutes long...
Monster is pretty much the only anime I have ever liked. It's rarely recommended, but I like the realism of it.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 25, 2010, 03:33:42 AM
Monster is pretty much the only anime I have ever liked. It's rarely recommended, but I like the realism of it.
Cool.  8) I'm only on episode 17 now, but I can't help but feel that every single episode is very well done and thought out...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 26, 2010, 07:09:38 PM
25/74...


I just had to look up who the mastermind behind this story is. Originally, Monster was, of course, a manga- and the mangaka of it is Naoki Urasawa. It turns out he's also the mangaka of 20th Century Boys, which is also one of the top rated manga out there.

Found a video of what it's like to be him, working on his stuff... (part 1/5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/tCF9dliGIqA&feature=related
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 31, 2010, 05:39:58 PM
Greatest children's story ever:

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The nameless Monster
Once upon a time, there lived a nameless monster.
The monster was dying to have a name so badly.
So the monster decided to set out on a journey to find itself a name.
But the world was such a large place.So the monster split into two and went on to two seperate journeys.One went to the East and the other went to the west.
The monster that went to the east found a village.
There was a blacksmith at the village entrance.
"Mr.Blacksmith, please give me your name" said the monster.
"I can't give you my name" replied the blacksmith."If you give me your name I will jump inside you and make you stronger in return." said the monster.
"Really? I'll give you my name if you can make me stronger.", the blacksmith told the monster.
The monster jumped inside the blacksmith.The monster became Otto the blacksmith.Otto the blacksmith was the strongest man in the village.
But one day he said:"Look at me! Look at me!""The monster inside of me has grown this big!"*Chomp, chomp, munch, munch, gobble, gobble, gulp*
The hungry monster ate Otto from the inside out.The monster then went back to become a monster without a name.
Even though he jumped inside Hans the shoemaker....*Chomp, chomp, munch, munch, gobble, gobble, gulp*
He went back to being a monster without a name again.Even though he jumped inside Thomas the hunter.....*Chomp, chomp, munch, munch, gobble, gobble, gulp*
He still went back to being a monster without a name.The monster then went to a castle to find a wonderful name.Inside the castle, there was a very sick boy.
"I'll make you stronger if you give me your name" said the monsterIn reply, the boy told him "I'll give you my name if you can cure my illness and make me stronger."
So the monster jumped inside the boy.The boy became very healthy.The King was delighted."The prince is well! The prince is well!" said the King.
The monster became fond of the boy's name.He also grew fond of his life inside the castle.That's why he endured even when he became hungry.
Every day, even when his stomach became very empty, he endured.But then he became so hungry....
"Look at me! Look at me!" said the boy."The monster inside of me has grown this big!"The boy then ate his father, servants, and everyone.*Chomp, chomp, munch, munch, gobble, gobble, gulp*
Because everyone was gone....The boy left on a journey. He walked and walked for days.....One day the boy met the monster that went west.
"I have a name" said the boy."It's a wonderful name."
And then the monster that went west said..."I don't need a name.""I'm happy even if I don't have a name."
"Because we're monsters without names." The boy ate the monster that went west.Even though he now had a name....There was no one left to call him by his name.
Johan.It is a wonderful name.
:D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 02, 2010, 08:48:22 AM
Finished watching Monster today. Very intense ending... one of the best shows I've ever watched, for sure.


Also, I watched a short, hour-long movie anime movie, "5 Centimeters per Second."
In terms of story, there's really nothing at all interesting to say. BUT I do think it is worth a watch- very unique. The presentation itself is simply beautiful, the dialogue is poetic, and the ending is just pure infinite melancholy.


I swear, Russian writers, German composers, Japanese anime/manga script writers must all be alcoholics...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 03, 2010, 03:26:18 PM
Currently watching: Cowboy Bebop (on episode 9/26). I expect to be done by tomorrow night (also planning on watching the movie).

Yeah, that's right. I still haven't watched Cowboy Bebop, as popular as it is. The strange thing is, I do remember reading a little bit of the manga (4, 5?) years ago in high school, and even though the memory of it is extremely vague, some things are coming back to me now that I watch it. The whole capsule thing seems familiar, for one. Spike and Jet are vaguely familiar. Faye Valentine is, very strangely, very familiar- the second I saw her for the first time, I thought, "that's Faye Valentine," even though I don't even know where that thought came from.

I like this series. It's just so... likeable.  :) And fun. And charming.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 05, 2010, 05:46:56 PM
Finished Cowboy Bebop today... I didn't think the movie was that great. The series, though, is awesome!  :o I'm surprised I even enjoyed it that much, and actually hate to leave it.

Right now, I'm finishing up a short, 12 episode series called "Mononoke." It's, um... different. Even though it's a very highly regarded show, I don't like it. The art style is basically the same art style of old Japanese paintings, but animated. The animation is very strange, too- intentionally jerky, and most of the time I found it disorienting, and not in a good way. The score uses traditional Japanese instruments. Also, I guess it's based off of some several different Japanese ghost stories or something... so, if you want to know what anime centuries ago would have been like if they had TV, watch this show.

Next up, tomorrow, I will start Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. I had already seen the first episode- looks super-fast paced, but I could probably grow to like it. It's 27 episodes, plus a two-part movie which is supposed to really good, so I'll probably finish by Thursday...

Meanwhile, I'll be entertaining myself by trying to figure out what next to watch.
Among the candidates:
Code Geass
Claymore (got to episode 5/26 a long time ago... show was good but lacked charm)
Full Metal Alchemist
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Mushishi
Great Teacher Onizuka
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (at 110 episodes, I might put this one off for a while)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on April 05, 2010, 05:52:02 PM
Loved the series to death, you know as soon as I saw your new avatar Greg the theme immediately popped in my head!!  Golly I miss that show. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 06, 2010, 07:24:48 AM
 ;D
Well, if you ever feel like revisiting the space cowboys, you can do it here (with each episode having an option of subbed or dubbed)
http://www.kumby.com/category/cowboy-bebop-episodes


I never thought you'd have a Dream Theater avatar, David... what album is that?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on April 06, 2010, 07:27:50 AM
Oh it's Metropolis 2.  A couple of years ago one of my students got me hooked on the band, they are wicked cool. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 06, 2010, 08:02:45 AM
Looks like I've never listened to that album. John Petrucci is a pretty good guitarist.  8)


I've been wanting to redo my top 10 list... now, here it is, currently- Greg's official top 10 anime:  :D
(the names take the series as a whole, meaning all seasons and sequels)

1. Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni
2. Elfen Lied
3. Clannad
4. Monster
5. Gantz
6. Death Note
7. Welcome to the NHK
8. Full Metal Panic
9. Now and Then, Here and There
10. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

and if it went to 12...
(11). Cowboy Bebop
(12). Baccano!

(i don't know why i like doing that...)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on April 06, 2010, 08:11:20 AM
I might randomly add one of those to my queue, it's getting light since I've decided to just go to Hastings and rent all of the new releases I wanted to see. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 06, 2010, 08:18:00 AM
Well, David, if you do, good knowing ya, man.
Half of them happen to be depressing enough to make you wanna blow your brains out- just wanna warn you.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on April 07, 2010, 04:28:03 PM
My box from RightStuf finally arrived. I started by watching the Genshiken bonus episodes in the Kujibiki Unbalance set. Not on the same level as the first series but still make me eager to get the second series. Now starting Kujibiki Unbalance ("kujiun"), which is sadly not the same as the episodes created for Genshiken 1 (I miss the mushrooms).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 07, 2010, 06:12:45 PM
What led you to this anime? I have never heard of it- what a strange name!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 09, 2010, 11:16:39 AM
Speaking of strange names, I just finished Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. I didn't watch the two movies, though... maybe later, though.

Maybe if I were 12 again I could enjoy this show better. It's about these people who live underground, and break through the ground to become surface dwellers. The main characters uses a drill which is supposed to "pierce through the heavens." The whole series is divided into two parts- ep.1-15 the first part, 16 being a recap, and 17-27 the second part.

Now, I didn't completely dislike it- there's something I do like about it, after finishing it, though I couldn't explain what- but I can't say I'd recommend it, unless you like this type of show. It's hyperactive, battle after battle, and not much of a storyline. The animation, technically, is pretty amazing- I couldn't fathom the skill needed to animate the battle scenes in this show. Also, I watched a bit of the English dub for the last few episodes, and man, could the dialogue possibly get any cornier?  ???

The whole mood if this show can be summed up like this- Battle! Fight! Us allies believe in you- now believe in yourself! You can do it! Pierce the heavens with your drill! (and they proceed to take down some opponent as big as an aircraft carrier).  ???

So, next... (and hopefully by the time the weekend is over, I'll be done with this)- Neon Genesis Evangelion.  8)

It's supposed to be a similar style show, except that it's very pessimistic all of the characters break down and go crazy, so I've heard. I watched the first episode and thought it was a kids show, but supposedly it gets to be intense later on. It's a show that people usually either love or hate. My friend once watched the whole series in one day, and said it was torturous, though I'm not sure if he meant just making himself sit there for 8 hours was, or if the show had anything to do with it.

Oh, well... next stop: Evangelion!  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on April 09, 2010, 11:48:47 AM
Yeah Greg it's a good show (Neon Genesis Evangelion) but I had trouble finding the patience to stay committed because too many episodes felt the same.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 09, 2010, 01:45:09 PM
Hmm... then I can see how my friend had a bad experience watching it all at once, even if he liked the show. (Watched episode 2 and it doesn't seem like a "kids show" like my impression long ago of episode 1...). Anyways, over the course of 3 or so days I should be fine.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 11, 2010, 05:47:50 PM
Finished!
(will watch "End of Evangelion" tomorrow)

Well, it was pretty much how everyone said it was. The last few episodes are filled with trippy hallucinations and constant questioning of the worth of the characters' existence. It's like taking a view into the characters' soul and elevating it into a profound level, although I'm not sure it's supposed to make sense, but I like it anyways.

(Also, I found Asuka to be exactly like a female version of M Forever. Not only in terms of personality disorder, but she happens to be German, as well!  :D )


There's also a study on this, and all of the symbolism used in the show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_(anime)#Inspiration_and_symbolism

Looks like it'd be a good idea to brush up on some Satre before watching the last episodes- some things I probably would have understood better if I was familiar with his, and others', work (so many other influences here).


Probably out of all of the hallucinations, this might be my favorite:


(from 8:00 in this video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/HwFbhWnq3qw&feature=related


(to 2:00 in this video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ejWj6H03v_I&feature=related

but you really have to click on the video and make it full screen- the flashing words- "Sex" "Death" "No" are pretty intense, too  :o
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 12, 2010, 08:24:19 AM
End of Evangelion...
I had expected it to be somewhat of an explanation of the ending, but I still don't really understand the ending of the series after this (I don't think anyone does).

BUT I have to add: the last minute or so of this is the most hopeless ending I've ever seen in anything. It feels even worse than the first time I listened to Mahler's 6th...  :-\ The last line of the movie is, "This is disgusting." I wish I could describe what happens, too, but this forum doesn't have a "spoiler" option that you can hide or show.

So, as much as I enjoyed it, it's not going to be a top 5 favorite because I found that the story itself wasn't very interesting, and I didn't feel hooked.

Next:
-Evangelion 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone
-Evangelion 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance
-The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya (new movie that came out 2 months ago which just jumped to the top of the ratings list at myanimelist.net, but since it's new, it probably won't stay there).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 18, 2010, 12:42:23 PM
I just watched the first episode of Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

(One thing that made me interested in the series was the jump in user ratings on myanimelist.net. Right now, it's ranked as the #2 best anime, at an average score of 9.10).

It's a 110 episode series, which is based on a series of sci-fi novels- both are in Japanese, and have never been translated into English, so the only option for an English viewer would be to watch the original Japanese with fansubs (no English dub or "official" subs are available, meaning you can't buy the DVDs either, since they don't exist for English speakers). So, needless to say, it's not the most popular show in the world, but those who have watched it seem to love it.

The cool thing is, the whole show starts off with the beginning of the Mahler 3rd as the background music. That, itself, means this show has to be EPIC.  8) It also uses bits of that symphony and bits of the Resurrection Symphony throughout the episode.

To describe the show- one reviewer put it this way: "This is Star Wars. Lucas' franchise should be named to something else." They discuss war strategy for battles coming up for fighting in space.

As for the art... ehhh, outdated and not to my taste, but I could overlook that.

Here's the first part of the 1st episode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7zRSMbA1_8
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on April 18, 2010, 09:18:07 PM
What led you to this anime? I have never heard of it- what a strange name!

I think I originally picked up Genshiken because it was cheap. It's an acronym of the Japanese title "Society for the Study of Visual Culture" - the society in question being a university anime/manga/game club. The comedy is character-based and much more sophisticated than most anime comedy. I highly recommend it.

I watched When They Cry and was so impressed I immediately began rewatching it (I don't think I've ever done that before). It's not so great on the second watch, I have to admit. The pace is generally pretty slow, especially the scenes where characters deliver long exposition speeches about stuff we already know. I gave up during the last arc. To be honest, I think the horrible violence is the most entertaining part of the show.

Regarding the symbolism of Eva, I don't think you should take the stuff spouted by American "experts" as gospel. Apparently the show's creators have admited that most of the symbolism was used just because "it looks cool". The fundamental story is about Shinji's relationship with his father, and feelings of inadequacy. This is the stuff that has survived into the Rebuild movies, whereas the more obscure elements have not. I liked Rebuild 1.0 a lot, BTW, and I hope this time they actually get the ending right!

Let us know how LotGH goes. This has been on my peripheral radar for a while...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 19, 2010, 03:01:08 PM
I think I originally picked up Genshiken because it was cheap. It's an acronym of the Japanese title "Society for the Study of Visual Culture" - the society in question being a university anime/manga/game club. The comedy is character-based and much more sophisticated than most anime comedy. I highly recommend it.
Cool! I just now looked it up and read that it's an "anime about anime fans..." interesting.  :D


I watched When They Cry and was so impressed I immediately began rewatching it (I don't think I've ever done that before). It's not so great on the second watch, I have to admit. The pace is generally pretty slow, especially the scenes where characters deliver long exposition speeches about stuff we already know. I gave up during the last arc. To be honest, I think the horrible violence is the most entertaining part of the show.
Well, I have to say you're pretty brave to pick that one up and watch it again right away. I had a hard time getting through the first 10 or so episodes because of the exact same reasons you listed.

The second season "Kai"- I wonder what you would think of that. The over the top violence  (which I also enjoyed) is gone in it, and so is the tedious retelling of stories. The whole story narrows down, gets more refined and has more spirit overall. I actually slightly prefer the second season.



Regarding the symbolism of Eva, I don't think you should take the stuff spouted by American "experts" as gospel. Apparently the show's creators have admited that most of the symbolism was used just because "it looks cool". The fundamental story is about Shinji's relationship with his father, and feelings of inadequacy. This is the stuff that has survived into the Rebuild movies, whereas the more obscure elements have not. I liked Rebuild 1.0 a lot, BTW, and I hope this time they actually get the ending right!
Ah, I see.
Well, unfortunately, it might be a while until 3.0 and 4.0 come out... probably tons of people are waiting for a "proper" ending.


Let us know how LotGH goes. This has been on my peripheral radar for a while...
I'm not sure when I'm actually going to start watching the series. Could be soon, could be later. 110 episodes is pretty intimidating... but, of course- I'll gladly tell ya how the show is.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 19, 2010, 03:20:09 PM
Interesting to see composer profiles on here:

http://myanimelist.net/people/9097/Gustav_Mahler
http://myanimelist.net/people/9370/Dmitri_Shostakovich
http://myanimelist.net/people/9180/Schumann_Robert
http://myanimelist.net/people/9162/Rachmaninoff_Sergei
http://myanimelist.net/people/9350/Mozart_Wolfgang_Amadeus
http://myanimelist.net/people/9160/Beethoven_Ludwig_van
http://myanimelist.net/people/9878/Chopin_Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric
http://myanimelist.net/people/9159/Bach_Johann_Sebastian
http://myanimelist.net/people/9618/Richard_Wagner

The only bummer part is that most of them have music only on a few certain shows- The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Nodame Cantabile, and Gankutsuo. Not much more than that. :-\



Okay, so as I said I would, I watched The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya today (a long, 2 hour 40 minute movie). Even though the only available video to watch is a camrip with fansubs, I don't know why, but I LOVED it!  :D

I wasn't a big fan of the 2009 Haruhi season (most people hated it), but this one really made up for it. The whole story is basically what the title says, and Kyon is trying to get back his former life. One line that I've been thinking about over and over again the whole day was when the future Mikuru told Kyon, "one day, you'll look at your current life as if it were a beautiful dream that passed you by." I could just imagine- I would happily trade places with him, without even thinking. 


Here's where I watched it, anyways:
http://www.cipherninja.net/video/suzumiya-haruhi-no-shoushitsu/423/Episode-01
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on April 19, 2010, 06:06:29 PM
I saw a few episodes from first season of Haruhi and wasn't impressed, didn't much like the characters and didn't find it funny. Felt kinda overhyped. I might give it another go in a few years!

If you want classical music in anime, I have to ask, have you seen Princess Tutu? That has a lot of music in it, ballet and otherwise. The title is a bit of a turn-off, obviously, but those who've seen it rate it highly.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 20, 2010, 05:11:37 AM
Haha, Princess Tutu... never even heard of that one. And if I did watch it, because of the title, I'd never tell my friends.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 20, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
Ah... decided to watch the hugest failure of an anime, ever (it was only 20 min., so why not?).
Hametsu no Mars (Mars of Destruction).

Let's just say that on MAL, it was rated a 2.73 average, and I doubt the 51 10-point votes it got were honest. This one comes in at last place (#3969) for anime which have enough votes to be given an average score in the first place. Second to last place has an average of 4.49, if that gives anyone an idea.

So, yeah, it's bad... I think through the whole show, I was like, "whaaaaaaaaat...." and then, at the end, I just started laughing.

Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hUW5NI6SL8

 >:D :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 25, 2010, 03:41:44 PM
Just finished watching K-On! (14 episodes + the specials)

I don't know why, but I ended up enjoying it (usually I hate stuff like this)...
it's just about a group of high school girls that form a music club at their school, which happens to be a rock band.
The whole show is as light-hearted as it gets, and the humor is really exaggerated stuff. More than anything, that's what I appreciate it for- it's the best thing in the world to think about when you're in the lumber department of a hardware store you hate, pushing rusty blue carts by some old guy and a manager who is so uptight you wonder if he's chronically constipated. Like having a small match of light in a cave of never-ending pitch black darkness. 8)



As for what I'll watch next...
I can't seem to find the full series of LotGH online, other than a torrent (being 22 GB, my computer can't handle that right now), so I don't know when I'll get to that.
Kaiji sounds good, and Mr.Anime strongly recommends it (anything he recommends I like):

Quote
Itou Kaiji is a bum who steals car emblems and slashes tires on what seems to be a regular basis. This routine changes one day when he is paid a visit by a man in a trench-coat. Once the two get talking, it seems that the visitor (Calling himself Endou) is a debt collector. The reason for his visit is an unpaid loan which Kaiji had previously co-signed for a work-mate (Furuhata Takeshi). The original loan was 300,000 yen and once Takeshi had disappeared, the loan then fell on Kaiji.

Kaiji is then told of a way to clear the interest compounded debt (which stood at 3,850,000 yen), which involved getting on a boat with others in his position. Once on the boat the debtors would then have to gamble with loaned money, which would end with a few winning, and others getting into deeper debt and having to work to pay of their debts. After some coercion Kaiji accepts a position on the boat, in order to clear his dept and make a bit of money as well...

though I should watch FullMetal Alchemist, Claymore, Code Geass or Mushishi soon...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on April 26, 2010, 09:32:54 PM
LOGH was never released in the West, so there's no legal way to obtain a localised release, so don't know what you'll do there...  (coughsundevilcough) ...

I've heard that K-ON is what all the cool kids are watching, but as usual I'm thinking "it'll be a cheap slimpack, five years down the track". That's just how my mind works.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 27, 2010, 04:16:21 AM
Of course, all the anime I watch is illegal fansubs.  8)

I actually found a site which has the whole series:
http://www.gogoanime.com/category/legend-of-the-galactic-heroes/page/4

checked a few of the episodes, and they work, though I don't know if every single one works.

As for K-On, (if i understand your expression right), yeah, might be something like that. It isn't a great show- just mindless entertainment that I happened to really enjoy. I wouldn't recommend it.


Currently:
Claymore 10/26
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on April 27, 2010, 06:34:29 PM
As for K-On, (if i understand your expression right), yeah, might be something like that. It isn't a great show- just mindless entertainment that I happened to really enjoy. I wouldn't recommend it.
I wasn't trying to put K-On down! Rather, I was just saying that I know the show is reasonably popular, but I haven't watched it, because I'm not cool. I tend to wait for the official Western release. What is this interweb everyone keeps talking about?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 28, 2010, 05:21:05 AM
Ah, I see.
Well, that is a strange idea people have ("only 'cool' people watch K-On").  :D This is a show about a group of goofy girls that, as a rock band, don't have a drug addiction- they have a sweets addiction. Instead of hanging out, stoned, smoking dope and shooting cocaine, they have tea parties and go crazy for pieces of cake, dress up in cat costumes, and go to their rich friend's beach resort.  But, hey... in reality, it is better than showing a stereotypical drug-addicted rock band. So, I guess it is cooler, but in a different way.  :D


Interweb?
I have no idea... looked it up.

Quote
A sarcastic term for the internet. Often used in the context of parody regarding an inexperience, unskilled, or incoherent user.
Hay guys, I'm using teh interweb!!!
I guess...?  ???
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on April 28, 2010, 05:27:23 AM
Interweb?
I have no idea... looked it up.
I guess...?  ???

Xkcd might have coined it when it parodied joe six pack (or congress) misunderstanding of what the internet is by using different wrong names for it.  Too lazy to dig the comic out, but my favorite is the interblarg, a word I now use more than the internet! :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 28, 2010, 05:30:19 AM
Quote
interblarg
Now that's a word I wouldn't mind seeing in standard use!  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on April 28, 2010, 05:24:44 PM
Interweb?
I have no idea... looked it up.

I know what it means. Obviously my irony was TOO ironic in this case. :?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 29, 2010, 04:31:21 AM
I know what it means. Obviously my irony was TOO ironic in this case. :?
Yeah, probably.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on May 07, 2010, 06:00:39 PM
Finished Claymore......... not. Got to episode 21 (out of 26) and just couldn't bear the thought of 6 more episodes.

I've never seen a show with such a lack of charm quite like this one. One of the grayeset, most drab things I've ever watched. It never tries to have any moments of charm at all (maybe that's not a bad thing- I remember watching GI Joe in theaters, and the attempted charm/charisma in the movie was beyond a spectacular failure) but instead just goes from one messed up storyline to the next with constant gory battles.

Let's just say that the monsters (the "Yoma") attack villages, and there's scenes where, for example, Yoma attack a household- a little girl hides under the bed while she watches her sister sacrifice herself and get ripped open, guts torn out and eaten alive. ???

Overall, I wouldn't say it's "bad", but the "lack of charm" aspect really bothered me. Even in the most serious of anime, you feel different things throughout the show other than "man, that's harsh." It just didn't feel like there were that many contrasting elements to ponder.


But, I don't think I'll be watching anything for a while, since I've lost interest lately. Full Metal Alchemist and LOGH are the ones I want to focus on eventually, but they're so long...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on June 20, 2010, 07:04:04 AM
Hmm... I guess I didn't mention that I've been watching the second season of K-On! (titled "K-On!!"). A new episode comes out every week, and it's up to 10 so far- though I suspect there will only be a few more.


Just wanted to share my favorite episode of Kino's Journey:
http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/drama/watch/v18277173PjX6QanH

The best word I've heard to describe this show- "cerebral." The concepts are just unbelievably strange, and told in the most detached, unopinionated way possible.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: drogulus on June 20, 2010, 07:50:16 AM
Hmm... I guess I didn't mention that I've been watching the second season of K-On! (titled "K-On!!"). A new episode comes out every week, and it's up to 10 so far- though I suspect there will only be a few more.


Just wanted to share my favorite episode of Kino's Journey:
http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/drama/watch/v18277173PjX6QanH

The best word I've heard to describe this show- "cerebral." The concepts are just unbelievably strange, and told in the most detached, unopinionated way possible.

     Train tracks turning abruptly at a 90 degree angle are very cerebral.  (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on June 20, 2010, 01:40:53 PM
     Train tracks turning abruptly at a 90 degree angle are very cerebral.  (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
Lol, I didn't even notice that.  :D
Probably my favorite part of the episode was the ending story. These are like tragicomedy fables or something- democracy taking a turn for the ABSOLUTE worst.  :D I remember one day at lunch I had everyone laughing as I told the stories of this episode (and a couple others).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on July 05, 2010, 04:58:34 PM
Just finished watching the movie Paprika.
Very trippy, well done, and just all around excellent!  :o
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on July 07, 2010, 01:23:41 AM
Just finished watching the movie Paprika.
Very trippy, well done, and just all around excellent!  :o
I can't believe you just saw that! Wasn't it amazing? A great prep for Inception, I say.

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Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on July 07, 2010, 05:35:14 AM
I can't believe you just/i] saw that! Wasn't it amazing? A great prep for Inception, I say.
No, it's not a coincidence. I saw you mention it on facebook, and had an uncontrollable urge to watch it.

And I'm glad I did!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Joe_Campbell on July 07, 2010, 04:07:02 PM
So awesome :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 16, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Man, they have a manga for everything...
such as Shakespeare:
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/Section/CliffsNotes-The-Manga-Editions.id-310791.html

(i just can't imagine that turning out good for some reason), and I've seen a series of manga that teaches calculus, accounting, and physics among other subjects.

Currently just following the second season of K-On (called "K-On!!")... they come out with a new episode each week, so the next one will be 20. Such a pointless show (every episode they just mess around doing random stuff, neglecting practice), but a good place to put the mind, anyways.

Also on episode 7/24 of a new series I've been watching called "Durarara." It's about a kid that moves to a part of Tokyo, "Ikebukuro," and there are motorcycle gangs and a mysterious "Headless Rider" who is in search of her lost head. It's really funny at moments (though not a comedy) and all around a good show, but I haven't been hooked- after all, I started the first episode probably 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Philoctetes on August 16, 2010, 01:37:48 PM
This is so adorable. I love how they depict 9-11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanis-tan
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CD on August 16, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
*awaits shitstorm*
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Philoctetes on August 16, 2010, 03:57:39 PM
*awaits shitstorm*

It's actually historically accurate as well.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CD on August 16, 2010, 08:47:37 PM
I meant more about the "Cat named Al-Qaeda biting America", but I guess T3r354 nor Sa_l read this thread, so no worries.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 17, 2010, 01:21:56 PM
I meant more about the "Cat named Al-Qaeda biting America", but I guess T3r354 nor Sa_l read this thread, so no worries.
Yeah, probably a good thing. This is a special, magical thread- no need for it to degenerate into a political flamewar.  8)

Speaking of Inception, it's already ranked #3 on the IMDB top 250:
http://www.imdb.com/chart/top

 :o
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Philoctetes on August 17, 2010, 01:35:32 PM
Yeah, probably a good thing. This is a special, magical thread- no need for it to degenerate into a political flamewar.  8)

Speaking of Inception, it's already ranked #3 on the IMDB top 250:
http://www.imdb.com/chart/top

 :o

That list is pretty depressing.

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 17, 2010, 03:18:02 PM
Why? What do you think should be in the top 10?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CD on August 17, 2010, 04:29:11 PM
The Dark Knight ain't even in the top 1000 for me.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Philoctetes on August 17, 2010, 05:24:45 PM
Why? What do you think should be in the top 10?

I could create a list if you wanted, but I had to get number 36 before I even considered a film for my top ten.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 18, 2010, 04:12:40 PM
I could create a list if you wanted, but I had to get number 36 before I even considered a film for my top ten.
Interesting. Sure, make a quick little list.  :D
I'm not sure what to think of the list. It's just what it is, I guess. Personally, out of what is on the list, I would have put included in the top 10: Life Is Beautiful, The Truman Show, Saving Private Ryan, Forrest Gump, Se7en, Monty Python, and District 9, maybe even Grave of the Fireflies...

12 Angry Men is interesting to see up there. It's pretty good, but #8?  :o (and I could say the same for many of the others)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Philoctetes on August 18, 2010, 04:54:57 PM
This is just a quick list, so it won't be my official one, but here it goes....

1a. Cries and Whispers
1b. Breaking the Waves

The Dreamers
Three Times
The Secret of the Grain
Spy Game
The Bourne Series
Blame it on Fidel
Germany Year Zero

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 19, 2010, 04:12:02 AM
I've never seen any of those except The Bourne Ultimatum... can't even remember if I've seen that one or not for sure.  :D (if it's the one where he comes out of the sea with amnesia, I have seen it- and it was pretty good)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Philoctetes on August 19, 2010, 04:36:32 AM
I've never seen any of those except The Bourne Ultimatum... can't even remember if I've seen that one or not for sure.  :D (if it's the one where he comes out of the sea with amnesia, I have seen it- and it was pretty good)

That was The Bourne Identity, and I agree, it was good.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on August 22, 2010, 05:59:41 PM
I found a site which has anime transcripts in both Japanese and English:
http://www1.atwiki.com/animetranscripts/

Just watched part of Haruhi Suzumiya today- the whole episode range from when they start filming their own movie up to "The Adventures of Asahina Mikuru episode 00," which is where they actually show the movie they worked so hard to make.
The result is a hilariously awful film. My throat hurts from laughing so much... now I remember why I like this show- it has its own unique sense of humor.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 25, 2010, 08:34:15 AM
I found a site which has anime transcripts in both Japanese and English:
http://www1.atwiki.com/animetranscripts/
This is almost all I've been doing for the last month. The funnest way to learn a language I've ever come across... watching Haruhi Suzumiya endlessly, and the more I watch it, the more I appreciate some of the witty details and how it's a really great show if you look at it a certain way.

Also, I just realized while watching the episode "The Day of Sagittarius" that the opening music sounded familiar. Wait... I look it up and see that it was from Daphnis et Chloe, which I had been getting into recently. Shosty's 7th, Tchaikovsky's 4th AND Daphnis et Chloe (and Mahler's 8th in another episode)... wow, the director just might have great taste in music, maybe?  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Guido on September 26, 2010, 12:49:16 AM
This is almost all I've been doing for the last month. The funnest way to learn a language I've ever come across... watching Haruhi Suzumiya endlessly, and the more I watch it, the more I appreciate some of the witty details and how it's a really great show if you look at it a certain way.

Also, I just realized while watching the episode "The Day of Sagittarius" that the opening music sounded familiar. Wait... I look it up and see that it was from Daphnis et Chloe, which I had been getting into recently. Shosty's 7th, Tchaikovsky's 4th AND Daphnis et Chloe (and Mahler's 8th in another episode)... wow, the director just might have great taste in music, maybe?  ;D

I remember someone telling me that often the English dubbed versions have very little in common with the originals.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on September 27, 2010, 09:53:05 AM
I remember someone telling me that often the English dubbed versions have very little in common with the originals.
I've never watched the dubs, so that might be interesting to check out. There are only two anime with dubs that actually sounded good to me that I can think of right now: Cowboy Bebop and Afro Samurai (w/ Samuel L. Jackson doing the voices). (When I watch some of them with dubs, I can't believe how awful they sound)!  :o :D

I also want to read the series of light novels that started the whole series. The first few pages of the English version seemed promising, though if I could get a hold of the original Japanese....  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Ciel_Rouge on October 22, 2010, 12:56:10 PM
Hi Greg, totally agree on the dubs sounding bad - to me they can make even a good anime seem dull and dumbed down. It's been a while since I last visited the forum - meanwhile, anime-wise, I still intend to resume watching Nodame Cantabile - it was very strange to hear a Brahms symphony going in with full power all of a sudden in one of the episodes. Strange how many magnificent pieces they used - I suppose watching the series is a good way to get acqainted with the classical :) On a side not - Greg, what do you think about cosplay and cosplayers? I have seen cosplayers doing the Polka character from the Eternal Sonata (the game featuring Chopin as the main character). I wonder whether there was an anime series based on the game, any news about that?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on October 26, 2010, 04:42:04 AM
Hi Greg, totally agree on the dubs sounding bad - to me they can make even a good anime seem dull and dumbed down. It's been a while since I last visited the forum - meanwhile, anime-wise, I still intend to resume watching Nodame Cantabile - it was very strange to hear a Brahms symphony going in with full power all of a sudden in one of the episodes. Strange how many magnificent pieces they used - I suppose watching the series is a good way to get acqainted with the classical :) On a side not - Greg, what do you think about cosplay and cosplayers? I have seen cosplayers doing the Polka character from the Eternal Sonata (the game featuring Chopin as the main character). I wonder whether there was an anime series based on the game, any news about that?
Did you get to read my post before it was erased?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Ciel_Rouge on October 27, 2010, 12:51:51 PM
Nope. Please PM it to me or something :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 04, 2010, 06:47:30 PM
Nope. Please PM it to me or something :)
(hoping you got the pm)

I just finished watching Eve no Jikan. It's an OVA of 6 episodes at 15 min. each, so it's only ~2 hours long.

The show is basically about a robots and their relationship with humans. The main characters make some discoveries that take place in a cafe, where robots and humans are meant to be treated equally.

It has a very straightforward, modern tone to it. There's no action at all- just dialogue between normal people. I'm not sure I like the style, since to me it just seems a bit too plain. It is very highly regardly, and I can understand why, though.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 05, 2010, 04:23:14 PM
I'm not sure if I should keep on watching Durarara... it's a fine show, but not very interesting. I don't feel compelled. However, I would like to say that I watched the whole thing.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Ciel_Rouge on November 06, 2010, 06:19:08 AM
Hi Greg, yes I got the PM, tnx. By the way - I once stumbled upon some information about an anime that is themed around cooking with a chef as a main character. As I recently got a bit more into cooking as well, it might be interested to watch but I have no idea what the title was.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 06, 2010, 09:45:41 AM
Hi Greg, yes I got the PM, tnx. By the way - I once stumbled upon some information about an anime that is themed around cooking with a chef as a main character. As I recently got a bit more into cooking as well, it might be interested to watch but I have no idea what the title was.
I remember one, but it was a kids' show that used to come on Saturday mornings.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on November 29, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
I'm not going to finish Durarara. Just hasn't captured my attention enough.

I was rewatching some Evangelion clips... truly a disturbing experience.  :D


Asuka's Mind Rape:
http://www.youtube.com/v/YxQKRRs83ko
Pure insanity...


The Ending:
http://www.youtube.com/v/KEDI7SaEW6Y
Incredibly ethereal atmosphere here...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 06, 2010, 04:52:08 PM
School Days

(I'll just go ahead and say what happens in this because no one will watch it anyways)
This is a short, 12 episode romance series, but with a twist.

The main character, a guy named Makoto, starts dating a girl. Blah, blah, blah... seems like a boring high school romance drama during the first half of the series. However, things start to slowly spiral out of control. He starts cheating on his first girlfriend- but then, later, he just ends up moving from one to the next until he ends up doing too many of them, all the while the girls getting jealous.

The anime ending:
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In the anime version, Sekai believes she is pregnant with Makoto's child, but is asked to get an abortion by Makoto; however, she is told to go to the hospital to confirm her pregnancy only to find it to be a misunderstanding. Under the emotional stress induced by Makoto's request, she stabs him in the stomach to death with a kitchen knife. Soon after, Kotonoha discovers Makoto's dead body and calls Sekai to the roof of the school using Makoto's cellphone. After a brief exchange, where Kotonoha shows Sekai the school bag with Makoto's severed head inside, Kotonoha attacks and kills Sekai with the backsaw that she cut off Makoto's head with, then cuts her womb open in search of the fetus. Finding nothing, she concludes that Sekai lied about her pregnancy. The ending scene shows Kotonoha on her family yacht clinging to Makoto's severed head.

In the visual novel:
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The final three endings featured in the game are the three bad endings which involve the death of one of the three main characters (either Makoto, Sekai, or Kotonoha) in violent circumstances. In one of these endings, Kotonoha kills Sekai in broad daylight with a saw to the neck; in another, Sekai stabs Makoto for leaving her for Kotonoha; and in the last bad end, Kotonoha kills herself by jumping off Makoto's apartment building after he chooses Sekai

After watching this, I feel a bit sick. Very disturbing... it also doesn't mention that, after they show Kotonoha with Makoto's severed head in her arms at the end, after the credits scroll, it shows a minute or two from the very beginning of the show. "There's this girl I see on the train... I don't know her name, but just seeing her lightens up my day." The contrast between pure insanity and that just makes my head want to explode.

This show was so f****ed up. Excuse me while I go throw up... and then smile afterwards, admiring how it can make a person feel that way.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 12, 2011, 10:18:29 AM
An average rating of 9.48/10 after 1613 votes?

http://myanimelist.net/anime/9969/Gintama

That's a pretty high rating...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Philoctetes on April 13, 2011, 06:03:22 PM
(http://anime.osiristeam.net/images/others/kenichi_d.jpg)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TrainingFromHell

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=37037
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CD on April 17, 2011, 05:27:04 AM
Strangely hypnotic :3

http://www.youtube.com/v/QH2-TGUlwu4
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 17, 2011, 11:45:45 AM
Pure evil...

I like the top comments:

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I want this song to play at my funeral.
THIS SONG DESCRIBES MY ENTIRE LIFE.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on April 17, 2011, 10:52:02 PM
Although I usually hate anime dubbing in english and I'm always watching them in japanese, I have to give Pokémon dub this: They made Lugia's song even better!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG57tjQTtBY

And it's about the only anime dub I sincerely like, even if japanese version is still far superior.

4kids ruined Sonic X - changed it into a kid's show. When comparing original and dub, I can't  believe they are the same anime. And they censored like 50 % of it.

I get shivers when thinking what they could have done with Death Note, Hagaren or One Piece... no, wait. They did ruin One Piece! Aaaaagh!

Light: I am just randomly writing in this notebook and those guys just faint. No dying, no sir.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 18, 2011, 04:59:00 AM
Yeah, 4Kids shouldn't be allowed to touch certain ones.

I could just imagine them getting a hold of Elfen Lied. How would you even be able to show the first episode? Is it possible to censor out an episode involving a naked lady mutilating people for most of the episode? How about Mayu's subplot, where she runs away because she is forced to be a prostitute? (Hmm... what could they change for that?) Or all of the scenes where Lucy rips people apart when she is a kid? Or what about the overall dark tone of the show? Or the questionable relationship of the two cousins who are the main characters? Or Nyuu's inappropriate behavior (of which she doesn't know any better)? What American names would they change them to?

Thankfully, they will never touch it because it wouldn't even be a show if they tried to.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 06, 2011, 06:43:11 PM
Just finished watching an 11-episode series, "Higashi no Eden" (Eng.: Eden of the East). It can be viewed on Funimation's youtube channel, either the English or subbed Japanese version. I watched the English version, and the voice acting is actually pretty good.

The feel of the show is very, very straightforward and realistic, but it mixes it up with some very awkward moments "wtf" moments (best example- in the first episode, the main character makes his first appearance naked, in front of the White House, holding a gun and a cell phone. He doesn't remember anything because he erased his memory). Throughout the show, you learn more about him and the plot reveals itself over time. The realistic side of it being, for example, how they go through NYC and talk about Sep.11 and terrorism, which is a big theme.

I highly recommend this one... it's just easy to like, for some reason. It doesn't show off or try to be clever, but is just simply fun to watch.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 07, 2011, 06:29:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/xwlRyKhpf7Q

Arrgghh... listening to Arvo Part got me thinking about Clannad After Story. Revisiting the ending scene of the show... to put this scene in context, the girl (Nagisa) had died when giving birth to their daughter, and his daughter died near the end of the show. He carries his daughter through the snow, and then (the details connecting these scenes elude my memory) this scene happens. It was all like a bad dream or something. This scene imitates the beginning of the show when they first meet. He considers not talking to her, knowing what will happen if he does. That's why she says, "I was starting to think you wished you would have never met me."

It has to be seen to be understood, but if you go through the show, it packs some of the most potent emotional impact of anything. If you are smart enough to absorb the details of what happens, at least.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 12, 2011, 08:29:53 AM
I tried watching the second episode of Mushishi (saw the 1st episode already). I couldn't last for more than a few minutes- so boring...

I watched the first episode of Great Teacher Onizuka. It was okay...
I watched the first episode of Nana. It was okay, though I slightly preferred this one the most...

Not sure if I'll try new ones or get into these more next...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 12, 2011, 04:41:56 PM
I loved the first ep of Mushishi, so got the set, and - it's really not one to marathon. But good if you're in the mood, sort of a cross between spooky horror and "healing".

Loved GTO the first time I saw it. Second time, I had seen a bit more anime, and found the humour weak and repetitive.

Nana seems like a chick-oriented soap opera, so I haven't bothered (I hated Rumbling Hearts).

BTW, I have a list of anime ratings and short reviews over at animenewsnetwork.com -
 http://www.animenewsnetwork.com.au/MyAnime/?user=eyeresist&categ=3
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 12, 2011, 05:45:57 PM
That's one long list and way more than I've seen!

Judging by the first episode is unfair most of the time, so I'm not sure what I'll do. If I would have discarded some shows based on the first episode not pulling me in, I would have missed some of my favorites.

Interesting to see the few that you marked "masterpiece." Fruits Basket is one that I, um.... saw a youtube parody of the first episode a long time ago. Still, though, something about it captivated me... I should probably try watching that one for real.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 12, 2011, 06:15:09 PM
It's a sentimental favourite of mine, I admit.  :-[

Generally, parodies are a sign that there is something interesting there in the first place, IMO.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sylph on May 13, 2011, 12:39:14 AM
So how do you find out which anime TV series are currently popular in Japan and which ones are in development?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 14, 2011, 04:22:15 PM
I don't know why it's taken me so long to realize this link I saved is like a gold mine:

http://www.youtube.com/shows/animation-cartoons?b=2&p=4

Sure, there are link lists many places which are far more comprehensive, but the pictures above the show titles help enormously, and youtube is much more reliable than linked videos to sites.




Two more first episodes of series I've watched:

Nichijou
This is a new show by KyoAni (makers of K-On, Clannad, Lucky Star, Kanon, Air, Haruhi Suzumiya, and two of the Full Metal Panic seasons). Needless to say, I have high expectations.

This is a slice of life comedy with high school girls in normal situations. But they dramatize it to make it crazy and funny.

The music stands out quite a bit. Just think of the whole vibe of Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf- the playful music and playful story, and you might get an idea of what watching this show feels like. I will definitely have to follow this one...




Fractale
I liked the first episode. Reading the reviews, for the remaining ten episodes, it's like the creators didn't know what they were aiming for, and it's all just a jumble of ideas with no coherence. Not encouraging, but being only 10 more episodes, I'll consider watching it.

It's about a boy that lives in a futuristic world where you don't have to work, and you can make these things called "doppels," which I guess are just robotic-like holograms that supposedly substitute for people. He lives in the countryside, and one day, these crazy people (that seem like a parody on Team Rocket) are chasing some girl. She gets injured and has to take her home to heal her, leading to awkward situations. (Yes, high pitched voice blond boy who is scared to touch this girl is a bit cliche  ::) )...

Supposedly they don't exploit their idea of the futuristic world in later episodes, which would hold some serious potential.  :-\
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 15, 2011, 04:54:51 PM
So how do you find out which anime TV series are currently popular in Japan and which ones are in development?

Learning Japanese would probably help.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 15, 2011, 05:39:09 PM
Learning Japanese would probably help.
I'm sure famitsu.com mentions new anime, but I can't say where since I hardly visit the site anymore.

Here's a list of new anime (in English):
http://www.animeph.com/spring-2011-new-anime-season-preview-list

The ones to watch out for are:
Kaiji 2
[C] – The Money of Soul and Possibility Control
Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai
Nichijou
Gintama 2




Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai
Watched the first episode of this. Strangely, even though it's only 5 or 6 episodes into the series, it is already voted into the #45 spot on MAL.
Not a ton of stuff happens in the first episode, but this is the basic summary: a guy lives with a ghost of girl (that only he can say) that died when they were both children.
Sounds corny, but in fact it is very intriguing the way everything is presented. It would be fun to learn more about the details- it hooks you in.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on May 15, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
Whenever I see anime on the new to netflix watch instantly! list it was always looks like borderline porn... weird stuff out there...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 15, 2011, 06:36:57 PM
Whenever I see anime on the new to netflix watch instantly! list it was always looks like borderline porn... weird stuff out there...

Well, some anime contains what is called "fan service", generally meaning panty shots, jiggling boobs, etc. To a certain extent you just have to accept it as part of the medium, as its presence does not necessarily contraindicate the presence of worthwhile drama, visual art, etc. There are plenty of boobies in neo-Classical art!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 16, 2011, 05:44:35 AM
Well, some anime contains what is called "fan service", generally meaning panty shots, jiggling boobs, etc. To a certain extent you just have to accept it as part of the medium, as it's presence does not necessarily contraindicate the presence of worthwhile drama, visual art, etc. There are plenty of boobies in neo-Classical art!
Lol, good point.



[C] - Control
This one is about a guy who needs money. One day, this clown-like guy shows up and offers him a way to make money, so he wouldn't have to have two part-time jobs while going to college and never having money at the same time. He takes him to the "Financial District."
Not sure what to think about this one...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 16, 2011, 11:06:50 AM
Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai (aka "Ano Hana")... watched the first 5 episodes (all that are out), and it will air up until late next month, where all 11 episodes will be released.

It's pretty good... it slowly reveals stuff in a way that makes you keep on asking questions.
A couple of weird things...

1) when the main group of friends are in places that are normally supposed to be crowded (like a cafeteria or subway station), for some reason it is only them, and no crowds.
2) replacing brand names with just one letter... McDonalds = WcDonald, Pokemon = Nokemon, etc.

It's a really nostalgic, kind of sad show. I've seen the scenario of someone as a ghost showing up after dying and only being visible to a couple of people in anime before. I think it's more of a Japanese thing in general, probably because it's the idea of being stuck in limbo, and not being able to go to heaven. I'm not sure if that explains this show or not at this point, though.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 16, 2011, 06:37:44 PM
The WcDonalds thing is extremely common in anime. I don't think I've ever seen an anime refer to a commercial trademark by its proper name.

Western ideas of limbo and heaven are largely irrelevant to the Japanese, as they are predominantly Shinto and Buddhist. By these beliefs, dead people either pass on to a different spiritual realm, or are reincarnated. The practice of ancestor worship suggests they believe that family and friends who die stay to watch over them. The dark side of that belief is the notion of ghosts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ano_Hi_Mita_Hana_no_Namae_o_Bokutachi_wa_Mada_Shiranai

Title apparently means "We still don't know the name of the flower we saw that day." Poetry!

This sounds like a good show, and I hope it gets picked up for Western distribution.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 23, 2011, 03:18:01 PM
(wrote this on facebook):

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Today finished watching a short (11 episode) anime series, "Fractale." A masterpiece- it's like an explosion of imagination, and it has pretty much everything- comedy, tragedy, adventure, etc. all mixed in together. All of the elements and ideas work together to create something very original. And the ending is very bittersweet. Highly recommended.

This is likely going in my top-ten list. I won't be able to stop thinking about this show for days.  (http://emoticonhq.com/images/ICQ/ICQ6.0/angel.gif)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on May 23, 2011, 03:33:18 PM
Oh no!  Cross posting facebook on gmg!!  It really is the end of days! :o ::) :'( >:D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 23, 2011, 05:31:05 PM
Oh no!  Cross posting facebook on gmg!!  It really is the end of days! :o ::) :'( >:D
Well, it saves time for typing.  :)

Here's where I watched the show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDwcYIIX_eM

This and a couple of other shows I watched recently air in Japan on a timeslot devoted for new anime, (Friday 12:45-1:45pm there and Thursday 11:45-12:45pm in my time zone (Eastern Time Zone)).  It's called noitaminA ("Animation" spelled backwards), and it's on Fuji TV. I might just turn on my KeyHole TV program and watch it live for a while.  :D It's just too bad that my Japanese isn't fluent and I have to wait for fan subs to be uploaded to understand the shows.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sylph on May 24, 2011, 02:03:49 AM
Learning Japanese would probably help.

Bitchiness to the left.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 30, 2011, 10:04:34 PM
Greg, I don't know if you go to animenewsnetwork much (I used to, but don't bother much anymore). I posted this regarding a critical review of old series Chobits:

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Erin's verdict in this case seems founded on an instant dislike, which then twisted every part of the show into an instance of "bad". The dislike seems founded on the sexual politics of the show, but really, sex exists, sexual relationships exist, and very few of us are comfortable with every existing parameter. In this case, what Erin perceived as nothing better than sexual slavery CAN also be seen as the growth of a loving relationship. There are plenty of real-life relationships in which one partner is mentor to the other, and arguably this is not necessarily unwholesome.

For myself, I find the show charming. The two main characters are both complete innocents (porn collection not withstanding), which is important in making the story palettable and frequently comic. The people around them guide and protect them in their guilelessness, which is also a nice element.

The fanservice elements have to be taken as a ubiquitous but not essential anime element (just as collectors of neo-classical art have to accept that their paintings are full of T & A). The harem fantasies definitely seem kluged onto the show artificially, but are funny in their deliberate disparity from the girls' coy real-life personalities, and of course the remorseless mocking of Hideki's countrified innocence (which is more personality than most harem protagonists are granted). There is nothing nasty in the tone of all this.

The chief problem with the show (apart from the ending) is the notion that Chi could acquire a complete personality in such a short time, or else have a definite personality despite being devoid of memories.
There is also the existential dilemma which Futurama best summed up as "Don't date robots!" - i.e. the legitimacy of emotionally bonding to an artificially created personality.
But these are not insurmountable obstacles - this is, after all, a fantasy.

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 31, 2011, 07:42:52 AM
Yeah, nowadays I pretty much just visit MAL.
Do you have a link to "Erin's" review? It's been a while since I've watched that show, but I remember it was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 31, 2011, 04:25:44 PM
Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan- The most nonsensical, messed up show you'll ever watch. There is season 1 and season 2, and it all adds up to just under 3 hours, so it's watchable in one sitting.

It's about an angel who suddenly comes into this 8th grade guy's life and lives with him. She has to protect him from other angels in the future who want to kill him because he supposedly grows up and invents a machine that keeps all the girls in the world at the age of 12 (he can't imagine he'd do such a thing). She beats him to death with her spiked club several times an episode (with the most dramatic blood spurting ever) and revives him many times. And she does this while smiling in an innocent way. It's practically part ecchi, but in a good way, because it can be extremely funny.

Recommended.  8)

This sums it up right here:
http://www.youtube.com/v/485h0Sg4BuY&feature=related


Sensitive Salaryman (Binkan Salaryman)
http://www.youtube.com/v/fNHGpVSU0ww


The demented theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/v/9ELRZ08hNaU

Kikumana, Mizu no Kotoba, Noisy Birth, Pale Cocoon- These are all shorts by Yasuhiro Yoshiura and Studio Rikka. Kikumana and Noisy Birth are completely avant-garde, and Noisy Birth has music in it. (Out of these 4, Kikumana is my favorite).
Pale Cocoon is a bunch of people dealing with "archives" in the future. Didn't interest me much, and felt too blatantly serious.
Mizu no Kotoba seems like a precursor to Eve no Jikan, with its cafe setting. Just a bunch of people talking, to sum it up.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 01, 2011, 05:11:55 PM
Yeah, nowadays I pretty much just visit MAL.
Do you have a link to "Erin's" review? It's been a while since I've watched that show, but I remember it was pretty funny.

Review at this address (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com.au/shelf-life/2011-05-30).

I wasn't aware of MAL. I will check it out, but as I only watch on DVD I will probably be out of the loop on most discussions.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 01, 2011, 05:53:48 PM
Hm, her observation of a parent-child relationship is not something I thought of. Not sure they intended that...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 01, 2011, 07:36:56 PM
That reviewer has a bee in her bonnet about pedophilic connotations in some anime, which might be fair enough in some contexts, but surely doesn't apply to human-robot relationships.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 08, 2011, 11:32:59 PM
I received a box of anime DVDs in the mail yesterday (from the UK):

Death Note
Code Geass (season 1)
Shigurui Death Frenzy

So that's what I'll be watching over the next few months :)
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 09, 2011, 01:29:35 AM
If you've never watched Death Note before, you're in for a ride!  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 09, 2011, 02:54:15 PM
Well, I've seen the first two movies, so I get the gist of it. I'm looking forward to the series getting much more complex than that.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 09, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Well, if you try to wrap your head around the details of the show, don't, because it'll explode!  :D

And the ending... wow! I remember Joe Campbell going through the series and being satisfied about 20-something episodes through (it really should have only been this long, honestly), but I don't think he ever watched the ending. It is something very, very, intense- one of the best anime endings, for sure.

I'm assuming you watched the live action movies. I don't think I've seen the second one, but the first one was pretty cool. Now, if they actually had shows/movies like that on TV over here, I'd actually watch TV!  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 09, 2011, 04:28:32 PM
I'm assuming you watched the live action movies. I don't think I've seen the second one, but the first one was pretty cool.

Yeah, I meant the live action. It was a while ago now, but I think they were basically a two-parter, meaning if you only watched the first one you didn't get the whole story (which I understand was a different ending to both the manga and anime).

Looking forward to Light EATING ANOTHER POTATO CHIP!
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 09, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Lol, nothing compared to L's eating habits...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 09, 2011, 06:53:42 PM
How to lose weight:

Step 1. Become a hero in an anime
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 11, 2011, 10:31:16 AM
How to lose weight:

Step 1. Become a hero in an anime
LOL yep...
I bet if you could compare a typical hero in an anime and the women that surround him, he is probably like a foot taller and 10 pounds heavier.  :D
I just started watching Air, and it's the same way... also, in this show, apparently there is only one male character in the whole city, and the rest are either beautiful women or little girls.  ::) :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 13, 2011, 08:46:30 AM
Gintama: Shinyaku Benizakura-hen (movie)
A remake of one of the story arcs of the original Gintama series.
I just found this one mainly to be boring. Gintama is the most critically acclaimed anime series right now, and I don't really see why. There were some funny parts in the movie, but the rest was just boring action to me.

Air
This was an enjoyable series that I've been wanting to watch for a long time.
13 episodes + 2 episodes that tell a certain story arc in more detail (episode 13 was a recap, so I didn't need to watch that one).

It follows the same formula as Kanon and Clannad- a guy gets surrounded by beautiful ladies, and it starts off like a lighthearted romantic comedy, but progresses through really bittersweet moments and then onto stuff so bittersweet that it just ends up very tragic.

Air + Kanon + Clannad/Clannad After Story... all the same story, and a very similar formula for the story. They start off as somewhat adult games produced by Key, and then get adapted by KyoAni and made into an anime. Then the anime pretty much turns it into something that involves practically no romance, but involves lots of death and despair, and a real sense of bittersweet melancholy and transcendence. A very interesting formula for all three of these- and it can even be easy to think of these as a progression, each time getting better- Air was good, Kanon was very good, and Clannad After Story a masterpiece. Or something like that- depends on opinion, but that's consensus, anyways.  ;)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 15, 2011, 11:54:04 PM
Hmm, I thought Air was better than Kanon, but all I really remember about Kanon was they ran the arcs one after the other without any real connection, and I think I was disappointed by the ending. I'm still planning to see Clannad sometime.

I'm currently on holiday, which involves trying to finish my novel, watching Code Geass, and being woken up by the cleaning staff early every morning. One of these is pleasurable! I like Geass, but I think I'd like it much more if the style was a bit more realistic, and if there weren't so many "anime" elements. Mao's resurrection was very unlikely and fairly pointless, and I'm just at the bit where Euphy has declared the "Nippon" administrative district, which comes from nowhere and is completely out of character. In the first audio commentary, the director talked about the mecha being influenced by Gasaraki, but it's really nowhere near as realistic. The pilot modules sticking out the back are just stupidly vulnerable.

Back to the grind.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 16, 2011, 12:10:01 PM
I probably enjoyed Air and Kanon equally.
Code Geass- that's the one I have my eye on next. Last weekend, I was thinking of just watching it within a day or two, but changed my mind. I probably will do that on my vacation next month if I don't any earlier. Kinda funny that you happened to mention that one.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 17, 2011, 05:31:54 PM
Almost done with Ano Hana... next week, the next episode is the finale (12/12)!
This last episode turned the show from an elegy into an intense catharsis. They build a rocket to send away the spirit of their dead friend into heaven- however, it leaves off at the end that she is still there. Before that leads a series of heartbreaking and intense moments.

Overall, it's a very good show. The characters have a ton of depth (and wtf surprises) and it maintains a clear direction. The only thing that gets tiresome is being a little too focused on Menma's death- just wish it had some more subplots or something- just anything to make it feel a little less claustrophobic.

Watch this and prepare to be miserable...  8)

If the finale is good, I might not be able to hold back from writing my thoughts (not like anyone cares, but it's just nice to write them anyways)... ::)

(this show is already #32 on MAL- if the finale is brilliant, it might even move up!)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: snyprrr on June 18, 2011, 12:22:27 PM
Isn't Anime really just Japanese porn?

Anime = cute schoolgirls raped by tentacle monster

Never went back to anime after Legend of the Overfiend.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 18, 2011, 06:00:50 PM
"Legend of the Overfiend"- had to look that one up.
http://myanimelist.net/anime/2359/Choujin_Densetsu_Urotsukidouji_Movie

What are you doing watching obscure, poorly rated hentai?  ??? ::)

I think if I had to recommend an anime for you, it would be different from everyone else (for most people, I'd recommend Monster or Death Note)- I would choose something avant-garde, like Serial Experiments Lain.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 20, 2011, 03:31:02 PM
Does anyone know if this is actually a real piece of music?

http://www.animeseason.com/mahou-shoujo-madoka-magika-episode-3/

If you go to Flash Player, part 1-    :57 in the video, the characters listen to an Oistrakh CD of some violin sonata. It's nothing I know, but it would be interesting if it were a real piece.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on June 20, 2011, 05:44:44 PM
I haven't seen an anime in a year or two, will watch Death Note soon on netflix watch instantly. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 21, 2011, 04:06:16 AM
I haven't seen an anime in a year or two, will watch Death Note soon on netflix watch instantly. :)
Yeah!  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 21, 2011, 04:48:26 AM
I would choose something avant-garde, like Serial Experiments Lain.  :D

To watch Lain was like reading The Stranger of Albert Camus. It conveys an incredible sense of loneliness and isolation.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 21, 2011, 07:20:19 AM
To watch Lain was like reading The Stranger of Albert Camus. It conveys an incredible sense of loneliness and isolation.
I never thought of that, but you're right!  :)
If you overlook the completely different plots, they both do share a completely detached view of the world that can be uneasy to experience. There is very little human "warmth" in these two, and emotions that should be expressed aren't held back- they just aren't there.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 21, 2011, 11:23:58 AM
I never thought of that, but you're right!  :)
If you overlook the completely different plots, they both do share a completely detached view of the world that can be uneasy to experience. There is very little human "warmth" in these two, and emotions that should be expressed aren't held back- they just aren't there.

That's exactly what I think, Greg. Japaneses have a great talent to show existential dramas; maybe because they are very existentialist people, indeed. Now I recall, for instance, a wonderful episode of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex that I watched the last week, titled "SA: Runaway Evidence – TESTATION" -  "Bōsō no Shōmei TESTATION" (暴走の証明 TESTATION). Warmly recommended! 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 21, 2011, 02:55:58 PM
Ah, yes, I have seen one Ghost in the Shell movie before years ago, but that's about it for that series. Actually, my family rented it for themselves (or borrowed it or something), and I watched it. There are so many Ghost in the Shell movies and my memory only remembers vague things like scenery that I couldn't possibly tell you which movie it was. I just remember a big, open area with some guy sitting in a chair and another area with a bridge to the big house/warehouse/whatever it was.

At the time, I knew it was something great, but was too over my head to really understand it. I'll check out that episode you recommended!  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 22, 2011, 07:22:17 PM
Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica

I only watched this because it was a new series that ended up #13 on MAL, and was only 12 episodes.

I looked at the picture and thought the show was going to be like this:

(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/8/28483.jpg)

Instead, the whole show was like this:

(http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=https://blogs.emory.edu/animec/files/2011/01/mahou-shoujo-madoka-01-38.jpg&sa=X&ei=HrwCToy3C8m00AG28vXFDg&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNEvSw_RI_DBL6UnWBbUfcV76RPe8A)


Another 10/10 for me. Another masterpiece.
However, I can't recommend other people to watch it. It is simply too disturbing and depressing.

Pretty much everything about it was good, though the characters weren't particularly interesting or creative. The art is phenomenal- amazing surreal worlds and animation. There is a real world and an abstract world, which is a nice balance. Even the background music is good.

It combines 3 elements I'm familiar with, storywise:
1. The Gantz-style mission-based "go out and kill a target" theme. (the difference between this and Gantz is that there is no gore, sex, and this show is better put together).
2. (revealed later) the Higurashi "looping time which ends in deaths of all the main characters, and one character tries each time to make it stop."
3. The Will Smith-type self-sacrifice ending.

I'll give away the ending here:
The main character sacrifices herself so she doesn't have to watch the other Magical Girls die and become witches. This means she becomes an omniscient being in the sky that absorbs all of the pain of the Magical Girls   for all eternity. The irony of this is that the girl who protected her is the one who went back in time many, many times to prevent her from even becoming a Magical Girl, and in the end the exact opposite of her intentions took place.

It's just sad to see so much fighting and death of the main characters and have it end with the main character gently accepting eternal punishment. Soooo late Mahlerian... if only he could have watched this show.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 26, 2011, 06:56:35 PM
Isn't Anime really just Japanese porn?

Anime = cute schoolgirls raped by tentacle monster

Yes. Also, classical music is just boring music for snobs!


I've finished the DVDs I mentioned earlier.

Shigurui: Death Frenzy was slow and overly artsy and so a bit difficult to follow. I think they were trying to put everything from the novel onto the screen literally. The pace is occasionally broken by some extremely OTT violence or perversion. If you ever wanted to see self-fellatio in a (non-hentai) cartoon, this is the one to watch! I think this could be edited down to a good 2 hour movie. Worth watching for the doom-laden aesthetic experience, if you're into that sort of thing.

Death Note - I finally got to see what everyone was talking about, regarding the evolution of the series. I suspect the way it went off track mirrored the manga - it seems typical of the way they extend an unexpected success by basically pulling the plot out of their arses (if you'll pardon my French). The replacements for L just weren't very interesting. There was more potential in the growth of the cult of Kira, especially in Japan, but sadly they didn't explore it much. I don't agree that the series is improved by stopping earlier - I don't think there are any really satisfactory stop points until the end. The ending did make me cry. Damned tear jerkers.

For me the most interesting part of the series was when Light loses his memory. Without the temptation of the Note, he seems like a pretty decent guy. The contrast when he gets his memory back is very striking. I wish the surrounding "good" characters hadn't been so perfectly moralistic about Kira being evil, and not using the Note themselves. It was pretty unbelievable - although Japan being a consensus-based society, it makes sense that people would at least all SAY the morally correct thing. Here in the West, most people will happily say that they would kill the bad people if they could get away with it.

I'm slightly confused by a memory I have from a while ago of a Japanese extra concerning Death Note, in which they asked the Japanese cast if they would use the Note, and they all said "no". This wasn't on the DVD, so I'm wondering if I imagined it, or if it was actually related to a different show.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 27, 2011, 04:42:05 AM

Death Note
The replacements for L just weren't very interesting. There was more potential in the growth of the cult of Kira, especially in Japan, but sadly they didn't explore it much. I don't agree that the series is improved by stopping earlier - I don't think there are any really satisfactory stop points until the end.
I think what might have happened is that the writer couldn't find any good stop points, and it felt natural to kill off L. By that time, he probably ran out of creativity for a satisfying successor, and then had to end it in one of either two ways (this ending being a realistic scenario).
As for the memory part, I vaguely remember that... it's been so long now...  :D
I was all for Kira at first, but then he ended up doing stuff like letting a girl die in a fire just so she wouldn't reveal his identity.  ::)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 27, 2011, 04:22:14 PM
I was all for Kira at first, but then he ended up doing stuff like letting a girl die in a fire just so she wouldn't reveal his identity.  ::)

Yes, Kira is a sympathetic character, simply because it's natural to enjoy fantasies about having secret power over the world. It's the same reason people like stories about spies, vampires, superheroes, psychics, etc.

Kira didn't "let" the girl die in a fire, he made her! And I think his motivation was fairly powerful, not "just so she wouldn't reveal his identity". He is after all a mass killer. Being caught would not be fun (as indeed it turned out not to be).

I've been watching the first two volumes of Strawberry Marshmallow. This is one of those out-of-print classics. Don't know why it hasn't been reissued. It's cute and funny as hell. I really need to buy the third volume.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 28, 2011, 11:34:03 AM
Thought I would watch Mushishi over the next few days or so...

Okay, now I'll admit this is some good stuff.  :D
http://www.animecrazy.net/mushishi-episode-4/
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Lethevich on June 28, 2011, 01:35:19 PM
I stopped reading Death Note (never seen the anime) after L died. I mean, it was the perfect ending after a decent timespan - anything else is just cashing in (although that's pretty much the MO of establishing a big brand-name in manga, it seems).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 28, 2011, 04:30:06 PM
I stopped reading Death Note (never seen the anime) after L died. I mean, it was the perfect ending after a decent timespan - anything else is just cashing in (although that's pretty much the MO of establishing a big brand-name in manga, it seems).
Aw, you're one of those people, eh?  ;)
I probably mentioned this twice already, but that's the exact same thing Joe Campbell did (I don't think he posts here any more, though).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 30, 2011, 06:08:13 AM
Mushishi
A very slow show with a sparse soundtrack. An episodic show set in traditional Japan.
The main character is a "Mushishi"- someone who travels from village to village, solving people with problems that the "Mushi" bring about on humans.
It's very "Japanese"- reminds me of a mixture between Kino's Journey and the Ten Nights of Dream (Yume Juuya) by Natsume Souseki.
Every episode, something tragic happens, but it's not melodramatic at all. Often, the episodes are completely resolved, either.

It's a good show if you can put up with its relentless slowness. If not, like me, doing something else while watching it.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 30, 2011, 03:47:46 PM
One Piece- Movie 10: Strong World
Entertaining, fun, and imaginative!
The only One Piece I have seen was when they aired the beginning of it on Fox Kids many years ago. It was okay, but I didn't quite care for it much.
Supposedly, the show has many die-hard fans that all exclaim, "The original show is a masterpiece, and the adaptation is trash."
The show has at least ten movies, probably a couple of video games by now, and currently, 504 episodes. It's still ongoing. Needless to say, if I ever decided to watch all of it, it would be years before I would decide to do that.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 30, 2011, 04:56:35 PM
I've watched Mushishi once. It starts strong, but it is NOT a good show to marathon!

Never seen One Piece, as I tend to avoid those long-running shonen shows.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 30, 2011, 05:12:15 PM
Never seen One Piece, as I tend to avoid those long-running shonen shows.
Me, too, mostly.
I've watched the first episodes of both Bleach and Gintama. Naruto (as well as Shippuden) I used to watch regularly, but gave up because there were just too many episodes. I watched some of the beginning of the original Naruto series, but never finished it because I had read all of the manga up to a little bit into Shippuden. Then, I stopped at about episode 55 or so? or was it in the 90s?  :-\ on Shippuden and never resumed, and don't plan on it. My friends have told me there are some really good episodes I've missed, but I don't really care at this point.

I only watched that One Piece movie because it was in the top 30 (front page) of MAL, and I want to see the top 30 or so entries, pretty much. To do that, I have to watch:
- The Aria series
- Great Teacher Onizuka
- Hajime no Ippo series
- Gintama series
- Legend of the Galactic Heroes
- The Code Geass series
- Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood

and possibly the Evangelion 1.0 and 2.0 movies. I wrote that I would watch them, but honestly, I can't remember if I did or not...  :-\
I might just watch those and then get to GTO.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on June 30, 2011, 05:39:24 PM
Legend of Galactic Heroes is one I should see one day, as I like a good space opera. I'll have to pick up one of those pirate DVD sets, as there'll never be an official English release.

FMA I just never really took to. Saw the first ep of Brotherhood and found it annoying, worse art and more "comedy" than the first series, though I can't really judge by one episode; it may improve.

Aria is BORING! (only saw the first series) The problem is that there's almost no drama, i.e. struggle or conflict, which even the lightest comedy needs to keep things going. It's just "stuff happening", and the characters are too generic to make up for this.

I've enjoyed the Eva Rebuild movies, 1 more than 2. Final verdict will depend on how things develop from here (not sure if there are one or two films to come).

Code Geass series ended on a big cliffhanger, so I can't really judge until series 2 becomes affordable.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on July 01, 2011, 10:11:09 AM

The replacements for L just weren't very interesting.

Oh, come on, now! Mello is probably the best character of all! He's pure emotion and awesomeness!  8)

Although I love L, he (and many other characters) is kind of hypocrite. As long as murderers are sentenced to death, it's okay, but if you personally kill someone who would probably receive capital punishment anyway, then it is just horrible. Although, to be fair, Light could have killed falsely accused persons and very soon he starts to kill anyone who would get in the way and thus becoming worse than many of his victims. And I know that L, Near and Mello were intended to be morally ambiguous because good against evil is not nearly as interesting as gray against grey/black.

Btw, did you know that according to Ohba, Near is actually more ruthless than Mello and he is way more vicious than he looks.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 01, 2011, 01:14:22 PM
Legend of Galactic Heroes is one I should see one day, as I like a good space opera. I'll have to pick up one of those pirate DVD sets, as there'll never be an official English release.

FMA I just never really took to. Saw the first ep of Brotherhood and found it annoying, worse art and more "comedy" than the first series, though I can't really judge by one episode; it may improve.

Aria is BORING! (only saw the first series) The problem is that there's almost no drama, i.e. struggle or conflict, which even the lightest comedy needs to keep things going. It's just "stuff happening", and the characters are too generic to make up for this.

I've enjoyed the Eva Rebuild movies, 1 more than 2. Final verdict will depend on how things develop from here (not sure if there are one or two films to come).

Code Geass series ended on a big cliffhanger, so I can't really judge until series 2 becomes affordable.
Very interesting!
I saw the first episodes of both FMA, so I kind of see what you mean. FMA:Brotherhood is supposed to be extremely fast-paced while sticking to the original manga, or something. Everyone likes it, but neither of those first episodes convinced me, so it'll be fun once I actually decide to get into it whether I like it or not.

Aria... hmm, maybe I'll watch that after Brotherhood so I'll find it relaxing.  ;D

Oh, come on, now! Mello is probably the best character of all! He's pure emotion and awesomeness!  8)

Although I love L, he (and many other characters) is kind of hypocrite. As long as murderers are sentenced to death, it's okay, but if you personally kill someone who would probably receive capital punishment anyway, then it is just horrible. Although, to be fair, Light could have killed falsely accused persons and very soon he starts to kill anyone who would get in the way and thus becoming worse than many of his victims. And I know that L, Near and Mello were intended to be morally ambiguous because good against evil is not nearly as interesting as gray against grey/black.

Btw, did you know that according to Ohba, Near is actually more ruthless than Mello and he is way more vicious than he looks.
Ugghh... what sucks is that either my memory of what I watch is really bad, or it's just been a while since I've watched it. I've forgotten who Near and Mello are. Is Near 'N'?  :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on July 02, 2011, 02:10:52 AM
Ugghh... what sucks is that either my memory of what I watch is really bad, or it's just been a while since I've watched it. I've forgotten who Near and Mello are. Is Near 'N'?  :-\ :'(

Yes, Near is N, that blonde pyjama kid, who plays with toys, other one of L's successors. And Mello is that lady look-a-like (at least until he gets his awesome scar) chocolate eating mobster, another L's successor. :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 07, 2011, 06:34:55 PM
(http://hsbsitez.com/images/files_collection/10143.gif)
Great Teacher Onizuka
9/10
I'm glad I ended up watching this show. Wonderful!

The plot is basically: Onizuka, a former gang member, punk, wild guy, becomes a teacher.
The show is layed out in a unique way: it is a linear story, but due to the nature of having every episode being a new school day, it "feels" episodic. However, along the way, subtle things change and there is a new story arc every 1-3 episodes. For example, from the beginning, his whole class hates him, but by the end, everyone changes and ends up liking him, because he goes out of his way, risking his life to help out his students.

He and the vice principal are some of the most memorable characters I've seen in a show. The whole joke with Onizuka accidentally crashing his new car again and again (his "Cresta") is hilarious.

Above all, this show is hilarious, unpredictable and simply fun to watch!  :D Highly recommended!


Here's a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Hz39z-e9e7I&feature=related
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2011, 06:03:38 PM
(http://hsbsitez.com/images/files_collection/9245.jpg)
Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch (Season 1 and 2)
9/10

I won't spoil the second season for eyeresist, but watch out!  :o
As the series progresses, the character Zero and Lelouch becomes more and more ambiguous, and only until the final few minutes of the show is his true nature revealed. Just as a warning... you'll be scratching your head through most of the second season.

I don't know how to convey in words how epic, profound, mind-bending, etc. all that I just watched was. I'm too tired now to think of anything to write, but I'll just say that experiencing show (or at least, if you don't like this show in particular, a work of art that has a similar effect) is very important.

In other words, I'm just too shocked at how good this show is... how do people even go about creating such a masterpiece? The only downside is that I feel like such a small mind now, looking up at the genius brain of whoever wrote the show (written by: Ichiro Oukouchi, directed by: Gorou Taniguchi).

A guess of the message of the show, amidst all of the ambiguity:
Quote
Columnist Carlo Santos of Anime News Network wrote that the franchise "in a way, [...] reflects the malaise of a generation: the realization that old, rich, powerful people have screwed up the world and that the young are helpless to do anything about it". According to him, Lelouch's actions exemplify the wish to see problems like "economic collapse, class conflict, political instability, radical extremism" solved by "Zero's vigilante methods" but Santos expresses doubt in such an approach and concludes that "the series is at its best when raising questions rather than offering a final solution".[62]


Join the rebellion!  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on July 21, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
Glad to hear the 2nd season will be worth watching. I'll save my lavish praise for after that.

BTW, I'm not a fan of Carlos Santos. Generally, the opposite of his opinion is what I think.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2011, 06:50:16 PM
The second season is, basically, a much more intense and devastating roller coaster ride filled with really clever and unimaginable plot twists (though the show does continue to stretch believability and outlandishness).

One thing I forgot to mention- two parts of the show irritated me like crazy. The plot twist with Euphemia (you know what I'm talking about) actually made me angry at the show because it seemed like such a cheap shot at basically, continuing the show. Something else midway through the second season made me feel the same way, too.

But... all of this is explained in the end.  ;)

I haven't read any of Carlos Santos reviews, so I don't know what to think about him, but I thought that explanation was a likely possibility. Maybe...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on July 21, 2011, 07:32:55 PM
The second season is, basically, a much more intense and devastating roller coaster ride filled with really clever and unimaginable plot twists (though the show does continue to stretch believability and outlandishness).

Thanks, I was wondering about this!
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 07, 2011, 07:13:02 PM
Spice and Wolf looks good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMNLiefTa2U&feature=sh_e_se&list=SL&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fshow%2Fspiceandwolf%3Ffeature%3Dsh_ac_show_1_27

It looks like some anime based on medieval merchants and traders or something.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 07, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
Yeah, Spice+Wolf interests me, but I haven't got around to it.

Currently watching Supernatural the Anime. Very disappointing. The graphics are garish, the acting lacks all subtlety, the music is tonally wrong, the plots are moronically simplistic, the dialog is generic and superficial.
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 08, 2011, 05:01:00 AM
I guess it would be disappointing considering the good stuff Madhouse has made...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 18, 2011, 06:49:04 PM
Speaking of Madhouse, they have made a new movie which is said to have some of the most impressive animation to date.

Redline

http://www.youtube.com/v/3gIsYu5at94


I don't know if I'd like it, being a racing movie, but supposedly it's extremely good.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 25, 2011, 08:32:46 AM
(http://blog-imgs-31.fc2.com/m/n/g/mngznknset/nichijou.jpg)
Nichijou
7/10

(Just finished this because the show just finished airing, though I mentioned it earlier. I don't think I will ever watch an on-going anime ever again- I hate waiting for shows to finish airing before I can determine when I can finish them).

"Nichijou" means "everyday life," except that this show is basically a slice-of-life show with tons of wacky things happening. The humor ranges from some form of anti-humor which I didn't quite get (the Helvetica Standard clips) to extremely funny situations that will make you die of laughter. (the soundtrack, as I mentioned, is excellent- very much Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf-influenced)

Some elements include: a scene where the principal is outside wrestling a deer, a household with a professor who is a little girl who lives with a robot she created and a talking cat, a fictional sport named "Igo Soccer," where you kick pieces from the board game, Go, like a soccer ball, etc.



Here's a clip: the guy riding to school on his goat at the beginning is the crush of the main character of the show (the blue-haired girl, Mio). She is a manga artist who draws dirty pictures of him and keeps them hidden, because she is embarrassed about it.

When she is discovered, she takes down the cop, her friend, some random guy in a top hat that walks up, and that guy's goat.  :D
Probably the best scene in the show...

Mio's Secret
http://www.youtube.com/v/oxl2kMq3RRM&NR=1
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 25, 2011, 05:00:45 PM
I like the art style.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 25, 2011, 06:40:50 PM
I actually had to get used to the art style at first... a bit different from what KyoAni normally does.

The show was a complete flop in terms of sales and popularity. I wonder what KyoAni will do next? It seems to be most likely a Haruhi sequel (they have yet to cover all of the Haruhi novels) or an adaptation of a newer Key visual novel.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 07, 2011, 11:45:00 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/12/21628.jpg)
The Tatami Galaxy (aka "Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei")
9/10

This is an absolutely wonderful show. It is about a college student who decides how to spend his college years, and each episode is a replay of him, but making a different decision each time.
The art style is something to get used to- not traditional anime style at all. It is very creative and imaginative, though.
Not it does it really stimulate the mind with both its endlessly flowing dialogue (well, lots of monologue) and its conclusion that concerns the portrayal of many separate realities, but it is also a pretty funny show.

Very highly recommended- and only 11 episodes, so it can easily be watched in a day.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on October 07, 2011, 04:07:48 PM
I watched an anime pretty recently (kind of entry level but still):

(http://images.wikia.com/filmguide/images/f/f9/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind.jpg)

Definitely the best of the Miyazakis I've seen — I loved the design of the characters and the creatures and the story is intriguing, if a bit preachy.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 07, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
Urrghhh... I just realize I haven't seen that one (even though I've been meaning to for a couple of years now, but have forgotten).  :-[
Well, that's alright- I'll be looking forward to it.  8)


My favorite Miyazaki movies are somewhat unlikely to be favorites- Ponyo and Howl's Moving Castle. Although I like his stuff, the problem I have with his movies are that they just feel too light for me (especially something like My Neighbor Totoro- perfect example of this). The musical equivalent of his whole aesthetic is impressionism, easily. Although with both I might listen/watch and enjoy quite a bit, often I leave with a hunger for something with more tension, substance, depth, or something to that effect.


Miyazaki movies I haven't seen yet:
-Nausicaa
-Castle in the Sky
-Porco Rosso

and non-Miyazaki Studio Ghibli:
-Only Yesterday
-Ocean Waves
-Pom Poko
-Whisper of the Heart
-My Neighbors the Yamadas
-The Cat Returns
-Tales from Earthsea
and the two newer ones,
-The Secret World of Arietty
-From Up on Poppy Hill
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on October 08, 2011, 09:53:55 AM
My favorite Miyazaki movies are somewhat unlikely to be favorites- Ponyo and Howl's Moving Castle. Although I like his stuff, the problem I have with his movies are that they just feel too light for me (especially something like My Neighbor Totoro- perfect example of this). The musical equivalent of his whole aesthetic is impressionism, easily. Although with both I might listen/watch and enjoy quite a bit, often I leave with a hunger for something with more tension, substance, depth, or something to that effect.

I think you'll love Nausicaa then, because I have the same exact problem with Miyazaki's other movies. The story is quite dark (takes place in the distant future on a ruined Earth) and there are lots of great battle scenes. The technology is really cool — a mix of futuristic and medieval weaponry (or "steampunk" I guess).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 08, 2011, 01:51:45 PM
I think you'll love Nausicaa then, because I have the same exact problem with Miyazaki's other movies. The story is quite dark (takes place in the distant future on a ruined Earth) and there are lots of great battle scenes. The technology is really cool — a mix of futuristic and medieval weaponry (or "steampunk" I guess).
Sounds cool.  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 09, 2011, 08:12:56 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/9/11355.jpg)
Ga-Rei Zero
9/10

This is a story about a family of exorcists who battle demons (specifically 2 sisters).
The show starts off not so good and the post-ending (last few minutes after the ending) is not so good, either, but the vast majority of it really is quality (other than a few things/moments that are kinda wth? awkward if you think about it).

The show is mainly: action and trauma, with a bit of comedy sprinkled in the middle. When the many traumatic things do happen, you have sympathy for the characters- very affecting and hits that cathartic spot. (Also, it's short- I was able to watch the whole thing this evening alone).

Now, I think I'll just sit in the corner all day tomorrow and stare out into space, feeling bad for the characters and traumatized. :(


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Side note: my last show I rated as if I enjoyed it better (9 > 8 ), but that's not the case- I think it was slightly better in terms of "quality," but I think I enjoyed this slightly more. Not sure if I should rate based on what I feel is quality or how much I enjoy it...  ::)


edit: changed score to a 9
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 10, 2011, 11:43:27 AM
Just finished Nausicaa. Pretty good movie- reminds me of Princess Mononoke, except I enjoyed this one a little bit more. Probably what I liked most about it was the interesting world it took place in.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 11, 2011, 06:48:42 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/6/2878.jpg)
Porco Rosso
8/10

Okay, I now know what my favorite Miyazaki movie is.  :o
I had a feeling I would like this... maybe it's because it's about a WWI fighter pilot who is a pig?
Anyways, this movie is basically cool, fun, and goofy all at the same time.


...just gotta watch Castle in the Sky and I've seen all of the Miyazaki/Ghibli movies.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on October 12, 2011, 05:46:41 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/6/2878.jpg)
Porco Rosso
8/10

Okay, I now know what my favorite Miyazaki movie is.  :o
I had a feeling I would like this... maybe it's because it's about a WWI fighter pilot who is a pig?
Anyways, this movie is basically cool, fun, and goofy all at the same time.


...just gotta watch Castle in the Sky and I've seen all of the Miyazaki/Ghibli movies.

I liked that one a lot. Need to rewatch. I also need to see CitS

Watched the first few episodes of this last night:

(http://hilery.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/paranoia20agent.jpg)

Love it. Can't wait to watch the rest.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 12, 2011, 06:48:29 AM
Oh yeah, that one is definitely on my list of shows to look forward to. Satoshi Kon tends to have surrealist-type stuff, and I am definitely a fan of surrealism.  :D

Have you seen Paprika? Joe Campbell recommended it to me a long time ago, and I thought the movie was very impressive- it's like Inception, except it came out in 2006 instead of 2010. And if you ask me, I thought it was a slightly better movie, too.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on October 12, 2011, 07:31:03 AM
Oh yeah, that one is definitely on my list of shows to look forward to. Satoshi Kon tends to have surrealist-type stuff, and I am definitely a fan of surrealism.  :D

Have you seen Paprika? Joe Campbell recommended it to me a long time ago, and I thought the movie was very impressive- it's like Inception, except it came out in 2006 instead of 2010. And if you ask me, I thought it was a slightly better movie, too.

Yeah, it was pretty great. It's funny you mention Inception's similarity because my friend said the same thing. I'd like to see Kon's other full-lengths also. I think you'd really dig Paranoia Agent.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 13, 2011, 08:35:54 AM
Yeah, it was pretty great. It's funny you mention Inception's similarity because my friend said the same thing. I'd like to see Kon's other full-lengths also. I think you'd really dig Paranoia Agent.
I might actually watch that soon- only being 13 episodes, I might just watch it one day before work.



(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/8/22249.jpg)
Stylistically, it's wonderful. However, I have two big problems with it.
1) the over-realism or whatever you call it (probably no name for it) gets annoying after a while. What I mean is, everyone is clumsy, stuff is always in people's ways, and people can't always talk right or get interrupted. I know it's a way to make it seem more realistic, but it's just annoying to me. Also, the way someone might shout out, "Yaaaaay!" and then a second later, they're saying, "Oh, wait..." constantly...
2) the whole plot is a bit cliched. Bad guy tries to steal a crystal, at the end people think the main characters are dead for a second, but no... Deus Ex Machina through some sort of magic? and they're okay!  ::)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 13, 2011, 07:15:42 PM
Watched the first 4 episodes of Paranoia Agent and will finish probably by tomorrow afternoon. It's very good!  :)
(will post final thoughts tomorrow, as usual)

Yeah, I'm developing an addiction...  ::) but since my hatred of the world only grows each day, I guess it's natural to want to put your mind in a place that is actually interesting and compelling?  ::) I have to look back at this year and think I experienced some moments where I was glad to be alive, after all.

That fat guy in the beginning of episode (i think 3) is totally me in the future, if I could get fat.... he talks to his collection of anime figurines and gets a hooker, pretending she is one of them. I guess that's the way to go as long as you know you aren't going to get a disease.

Also, I first found out about the show by randomly watching the theme song on youtube months ago and thought, "weeeeeirdddd stuff..."

When I'm older and am able to take lots of time off (or retirement), I'll probably spend about 2 months a year doing nothing but watching anime, about 8-9 hours a day. It'll be like living in a constant fantasy land.  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on October 13, 2011, 07:32:57 PM
I think you'll have watched all of them by that point!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 14, 2011, 10:02:14 AM
I think you'll have watched all of them by that point!
lol, it almost seems like it. Probably the more likely scenario is half of the ones left are going to suck.

MAL lists 6569 entries. However, this does not include just series, but also movies, shorts, and special episodes. At the bottom of the list are hentai (basically all hentai are low rated) and shows that haven't gotten enough votes yet (mainly shows without subs and shows that are still airing). So there's quite a bit, but it might actually be possible to watch all of the ones one might have an interest in, given enough time.


finished...
Paranoia Agent
This show is soooooo good, Corey. You should finish it soon- just don't let it explode your brain!  :o

Episode 8 (the one with the three people going around town together) was not like anything I've seen before. This scenario, plus THE MUSIC... whoa  ???
Really, all I can say is that the whole show is a trippy, compelling masterpiece that just has to be watched.


I would give it a rating- it would be something like a 9 or 10 out of 10, but I don't have confidence in my rating system any more. For one, I'm not sure if I'm even rating them by just my own enjoyment, quality itself, or a mixture. Add to that the challenge of having so many shows that are extremely good that my ratings are so high and similar to each other- almost everything I watch seems to be an 8, 9, or 10- and what's the difference?  :-X
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 15, 2011, 07:43:49 PM
I had to rewatch episode 8:

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v335900CTbBkCtj

Still absolutely mind-blowing. I have a friend that might end up watching this one, though probably after he finishes Dokuro-chan first.
 
One thing I understand that I didn't pick up on the first time was the reason the young man and the little girl were trying to kill themselves- they both seem to be revealed (or implied) during the scene outside after they roll down the hill when the nooses snap from the tree. What I would like to know is the old man's reason- never caught that. I'm also still not sure if there is a connection between this episode and others besides the mention of FOX- another member of their web forum that I read from the comments section of this link I posted was supposed to be the copycat lil' slugger? (not sure about that- confused...)

They don't translate the Japanese text when they display the forum posts, but from what I could read of it, it isn't substantially important.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on October 17, 2011, 06:41:11 AM
I had to rewatch episode 8:

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v335900CTbBkCtj

Still absolutely mind-blowing. I have a friend that might end up watching this one, though probably after he finishes Dokuro-chan first.
 
One thing I understand that I didn't pick up on the first time was the reason the young man and the little girl were trying to kill themselves- they both seem to be revealed (or implied) during the scene outside after they roll down the hill when the nooses snap from the tree. What I would like to know is the old man's reason- never caught that. I'm also still not sure if there is a connection between this episode and others besides the mention of FOX- another member of their web forum that I read from the comments section of this link I posted was supposed to be the copycat lil' slugger? (not sure about that- confused...)

They don't translate the Japanese text when they display the forum posts, but from what I could read of it, it isn't substantially important.

Just watched the 2nd and 3rd discs — I got the impression that FOX was the fake Shonen Bat (AKA The Holy Warrior, haha). I really enjoyed the little digressions from the main plot, especially the three friends trying to die and the women telling the stories about Shonen Bat, and the Maromi episode was hilarious. ;D Man this show is so funny and disturbing at the same time.

Yasumi da yo... Yasumi da yo... Yasumi da yo... Yasumi da yo...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 17, 2011, 07:16:44 AM
So I'm assuming you are watching the subbed version from this boxset, and you just have disc 4 to watch?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41WEQNJJC4L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

What I'm trying to figure out is why some series have reasonable prices, while others have outrageous prices (this one for $300 new even though it's only 13 episodes, and I hear Nichijou and Gosick are $1500 new for ~26 episodes). Claymore is $40 for 26 episodes- reasonable. And then sales are so low that the producers wonder what's going wrong... they can't be that stupid, can they?  ???

Anyways, enjoy!  :)
(and tell me what you thought about the ending- everything is explained in the last episode, although there will still be many details you'll have to figure out for yourself).

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on October 23, 2011, 05:32:53 AM
Anyways, enjoy!  :)
(and tell me what you thought about the ending- everything is explained in the last episode, although there will still be many details you'll have to figure out for yourself).

Finally watched the last three episodes. I was not expecting the turn it took at all!

I liked how Shonen Bat/Maromi turned out to be a metaphor for the inner darkness in us that most people choose to ignore at their own peril. When Tsukiko revisits her past and comes to terms with her lie and Maromi's death — I'll admit I teared up. Okay, I'm tearing up now just thinking about it. ;_;

Anyway, definitely the best anime series I've ever seen.

About to start Serial Experiments: Lain, just waiting for it to get here from Netflix. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 23, 2011, 07:18:09 AM
When Tsukiko revisits her past and comes to terms with her lie and Maromi's death — I'll admit I teared up. Okay, I'm tearing up now just thinking about it. ;_;
I know, it affected me the same way.  :(


Anyway, definitely the best anime series I've ever seen.
Awesome! I'd definitely put this in my top 10, or maybe even top 5, which is saying A LOT.



About to start Serial Experiments: Lain, just waiting for it to get here from Netflix. :)
Interesting you chose that one, because that's the show that seems to have the most in common with Paranoia Agent, despite being made by different people.
If you got the English dub (the one I watched), the voice acting sounds very strange. I didn't really get why it was that way, but oh well.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 24, 2011, 07:34:30 AM
http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/3/9853.jpg
Detroit Metal City

This is a show about a kid from the countryside who moves into Tokyo and dreams of becoming a pop star, but ends up becoming a legendary metal musician who dresses up as a character called "Krauser II."
The show is over-the-top insane and really funny at times.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 25, 2011, 10:43:06 AM
Tomorrow: watching Angel Beats!
Watched episode 1/13 the day before yesterday, now 12 episodes ~= 4-4 1/2 hours.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on October 28, 2011, 06:26:12 AM
Watched the first four episodes of Serial Experiments: Lain — some aspects bothered me at first, like the annoying theme music, the dated ideas about the internet and the way everyone talks like a robot, but as I got further in I became more curious as to what is even going on. I like the way the show uses sound and the washed-out, hazy look of everything.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 28, 2011, 12:37:39 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/10/22062.jpg)
Angel Beats

A thorough blend of comedy, action and drama. The story line has a somewhat messy, improvisational feel progression that is sometimes hard to understand, but works.

The plot: A group of high school age kids are in the afterlife- some type of limbo/purgatory state, which completely takes place in and around a school. They can't die- every time they "die," they just go unconscious for a little while and wake up. The school is filled with NPCs (they just use the term non-player character to describe the people they see which don't actually have a soul, but act like normal people).

Along the way, they have various enemies, etc. However, the way a person "passes on" (in other words, disappears and truly dies) is for them to have their dreams come true in this world.

The cast consists of many characters- a few are the main ones, which are fully developed, but others are one-dimensional comic relief characters (more of those than in any show I've seen). Strangely, they might have the same joke from beginning to end, but it gets funnier each time somehow.

Excellent show. The only turn-off is that it can be a bit corny at times, but other than that, just a joy to watch.



Watched the first four episodes of Serial Experiments: Lain — some aspects bothered me at first, like the annoying theme music, the dated ideas about the internet and the way everyone talks like a robot, but as I got further in I became more curious as to what is even going on. I like the way the show uses sound and the washed-out, hazy look of everything.
Yes, it was 1998- ideas about the internet certainly were dated!  :D
I wouldn't rank it as my top favorites, but the way I enjoyed it was in a way similar way to enjoying stuff like Darmstadt-ish atonal music- just enjoy the ride.
As for the overall explanation, the only thing that made sense to me was that somehow the internet and real world were merging into one. I'm sure there's a lot more to that, and I probably missed quite a bit, though.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on November 02, 2011, 05:13:19 AM
(http://queenofthegrubs.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/millennium-actress-poster.jpeg)

An earlier film from Satoshi Kon (Paprika, Paranoia Agent) — the character design is a lot more... Studio Ghibli-ish? I like it though. The entire film is an homage to Japanese cinema, and it helps if you're pretty familiar with film history in Japan to get the references, but it's not necessary to enjoy. Heartwarming!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 02, 2011, 06:55:10 AM
I never really thought of checking out his other stuff, because I didn't think there was much. There isn't really much, since he died so young.

As a writer:
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World Apartment Horror (1991)
Memories (Magnetic Rose) (1995)
Millennium Actress (2001)
Tokyo Godfathers (2003)
Paranoia Agent (2004)
Paprika (2006)
Dreaming Machine (TBA)
The first one was a manga that they made a movie out of, Memories I've read about and can't get a grasp of what it might be like, and Tokyo Godfathers sounds like it's in the same vein of Millennium Actress. Dreaming Machine seems interesting, and will be a posthumous release- hopefully within a year or two.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on November 02, 2011, 07:41:18 AM
He also directed Perfect Blue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Blue), which is supposed to be really good as well.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 02, 2011, 09:55:26 AM
He also directed Perfect Blue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Blue), which is supposed to be really good as well.
Ah, yeah, almost forgot about that one. At least there's still something of his in his experimental style which I haven't watched yet.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 03, 2011, 09:53:30 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/11/Redline_iphone_l.jpg/220px-Redline_iphone_l.jpg)
Redline
Couldn't even finish this, with 20 minutes left. I thought I was going to die of boredom.

I've also watched the first few episodes of Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, but have 60+ to go. Although I've committed to watching one anime at a time, I'll just have to see when it comes to "long" series that can't be watched within 2 days (~30+ episodes).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on November 03, 2011, 12:45:58 PM
I've seen Perfect Blue (1997), Millennium Actress (2001) and Paprika (2006) from Satoshi Kon and found all three to be fantastic. I've been impressed with how Kon has successfully touched on several different genres with his Anime-films.

Curious what anyone's thoughts are on The Sky Crawlers by Mamoru Oshii.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 03, 2011, 06:46:20 PM
I've seen Perfect Blue (1997), Millennium Actress (2001) and Paprika (2006) from Satoshi Kon and found all three to be fantastic. I've been impressed with how Kon has successfully touched on several different genres with his Anime-films.
If you liked Paprika, you definitely have to try Paranoia Agent.


Curious what anyone's thoughts are on The Sky Crawlers by Mamoru Oshii.
Never heard of that one.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/3089/The_Sky_Crawlers

However, after reading about it, I'm intrigued.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on November 03, 2011, 06:53:23 PM
If you liked Paprika, you definitely have to try Paranoia Agent.

Never heard of that one.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/3089/The_Sky_Crawlers

However, after reading about it, I'm intrigued.  8)

I really liked Sky Crawlers, a nice minimalist approach to its plot. I've really enjoyed what Mamoru Oshii films I've seen.

And it looks like there are different volumes to Paranoia Agent, is that right? Was it a series?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 03, 2011, 07:10:15 PM
I really liked Sky Crawlers, a nice minimalist approach to its plot. I've really enjoyed what Mamoru Oshii films I've seen.

And it looks like there are different volumes to Paranoia Agent, is that right? Was it a series?
Ah, I see he directed Ghost in the Shell, as well. I don't know any of his other stuff, though.

Paranoia Agent:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/323/Paranoia_Agent

13 episodes: ~4 1/2 hours
You can find it online, either dubbed or subbed, as well. If I had to sum it up quickly: the show has a rare distinction as being able to blow your mind with its trippiness while simultaneously hooking you in and not letting go.  :D  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on November 03, 2011, 07:37:09 PM
Ah, I see he directed Ghost in the Shell, as well. I don't know any of his other stuff, though.

Paranoia Agent:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/323/Paranoia_Agent

13 episodes: ~4 1/2 hours
You can find it online, either dubbed or subbed, as well. If I had to sum it up quickly: the show has a rare distinction as being able to blow your mind with its trippiness while simultaneously hooking you in and not letting go.  :D  8)

Got me interested. Thanks, Greg, for the recommendation.
And great name, by the way.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 04, 2011, 07:25:33 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/7/5972.jpg)
Perfect Blue
Well, it's a decent movie, but doesn't make me feel to good afterwards.  :-X


And great name, by the way.  ;D
Yes, you, too.  ;)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on November 06, 2011, 04:36:29 PM
Memories I've read about and can't get a grasp of what it might be like, and Tokyo Godfathers sounds like it's in the same vein of Millennium Actress. Dreaming Machine seems interesting, and will be a posthumous release- hopefully within a year or two.

Memories is a "portmanteau" film, i.e. a collection of short films. I thought Magnetic Rose was ultimately the weakest part. Like most compilation movies of this kind, it was ultimately unsatisfying.

Tokyo Godfathers is nothing like Millennium Actress! It's a straightforward romp compared to his other films, with a variety of characters running around Tokyo on various quests that turn out to be linked, and with a comedic, lighthearted attitude. Definitely worth seeing.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 09, 2011, 07:31:38 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1/1033.jpg)
Millennium Actress

I liked the parallel perspectives the movie used to tell the story.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 12, 2011, 02:11:27 PM
I never got around to watching the 3 Kino's Journey specials. So I did this morning- in just ~70 minutes, knocking off 3 entries on the MAL list.

Kino no Tabi: Nanika wo Suru Tame ni - Life Goes On shows Kino when she was young, preparing to start her journey.
Kino no Tabi: The Beautiful World - Byouki no Kuni: For You- travels to an advanced city with some sort of sickness.
Kino no Tabi: The Beautiful World - Tou no Kuni- travels to a city where everyone has been building a tower for 230 years, and they forgot why they were even building it in the first place. It collapses from being too tall, and everyone rejoices.

I didn't find these episodes as intriguing as the ones in the series.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on November 12, 2011, 08:10:44 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AYA39QA4L._AA400_.jpg)


I'm really behind in recent Anime, but I remember some of the ones from the past I really enjoyed. Lain was a series I was mesmerized by, such a mysterious but innocent tale.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 20, 2011, 08:46:08 PM
Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/11/16029.jpg)

This is basically a shonen anime which incorporates the epic quality of that type without the bloat (being several hundreds of episodes, with many fillers). This is 64 episodes which focuses on the story, every single episode.

Absolutely fantastic. The plot itself is very interesting, the characters are interesting, and it is simply satisfying. The one main annoyance I had of it, though, was that as it neared the end, 2 qualities of shonen were brought out that I don't like (even though they weren't present earlier in the show): cheesiness and long battles which become boring after a while.

What I liked were the villains and the Gate of Truth. The villains were named after the seven deadly sins, but they were all part of the same being (the Homunculus). The Gate of Truth was some wall in another dimension were they look through when performing the taboo of human transmutation (trying to bring the dead back to life through alchemy).


(Renfield actually recommended me this one a long time ago...)


Next, I'll watch the specials and the "4-Koma Theater," which isn't much longer than an hour, so most likely I won't comment on those, unless they happen to be surprisingly remarkable.


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AYA39QA4L._AA400_.jpg)


I'm really behind in recent Anime, but I remember some of the ones from the past I really enjoyed. Lain was a series I was mesmerized by, such a mysterious but innocent tale.
Corey (Coco) was watching this... I wonder if he finished yet?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 25, 2011, 12:58:20 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/13/8444.jpg)
Sword of the Stranger
A very dreary, bleak, samurai action movie.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 19, 2012, 06:36:38 PM
Baka and Test- Season 1

(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/3/19617.jpg)
[13 episodes]
(watching the subs from Funimation's youtube channel)

Okay, I feel like this show is making me stupider, but since it's funny, I don't mind.  ;D
It's a somewhat standard school anime comedy with an emphasis on outrageous and running jokes, and practically no plot. 
For me, I just like watching it because it takes my mind out of this ugly world and puts it somewhere much better.



next up:
-Le Portrait de Petite Cossette
-Baka and Test- Season 2, Specials and OVAs
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on January 19, 2012, 06:51:11 PM
Lain is my favorite anime.  How did you like Perfect Blue Greg?  I've heard that Black Swan was a homage to that anime with not only a similar story but scenes that were almost the same.  If you've seen both, do you agree?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 19, 2012, 07:11:28 PM
I haven't watched Black Swan, but I was actually considering watching it. Maybe I'll give it a shot soon.  :)
Perfect Blue was a good one, but watching it was like swallowing a brick. The tone of the whole movie was so relentlessly dark and troubled, yet contained relatively little violence and still had that effect.

That's funny to hear that, because another one of Satoshi Kon's films, Paprika, essentially has the same ideas as Inception did, but came out earlier (this is probably coincidence- I don't think Chris Nolan copied it). I've watched both and liked both, though out of the two, I liked Paprika a little bit better.

Have you watched Paranoia Agent? If you like Lain, this is the show to watch next. Me and Corey were talking about that a few pages back on this thread. This was the only anime series Satoshi Kon directed, and it was just 13 episodes. But, wow- one of the greatest anime I've watched, for sure. This show will do things to your mind like you never imagined. It's like Lain- the trippiness is all there- but not as cerebral, and more like a traditional show. Combine experimentalism and a traditional drama seamlessly and that's the result. It'll twist your mind and twist your heart at the same time.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on January 19, 2012, 09:16:52 PM
I've seen Paprika, it's pretty mind bending!  Since Paranoia Agent is only 4 dvds I'll put it on the queue. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 21, 2012, 09:30:22 AM
Watched Black Swan- a short, little post I made in the Movie thread.
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Aronofsky says that Satoshi Kon's Perfect Blue was not an influence? Yeah, right...   ::)
(supposedly, even Requiem for a Dream was influenced by Perfect Blue).

Anyways, pretty good movie- I tend to really like scenarios where the main character starts having delusions of a person that characterizes a second personality (such as in Fight Club).



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d1/Petite_Cossette_vol3_cover.jpg/230px-Petite_Cossette_vol3_cover.jpg)
Le Portrait de Petite Cossette
OVA: 3 episodes, 36 min. each (the "series" is basically movie-length)
Well, it aspires to be something really great, but the plot I just couldn't care for. It's pretty much a romance between some guy and a girl whose soul was trapped in a glass, because some guy long ago painted portraits of her and killed her, because she was getting older and he thought she was perfect the way she was and didn't want her to change.
 ::)


next up: Baka and Test Season 2... second season of the best show for a constantly angry person to watch.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 28, 2012, 07:32:22 PM
Baka and Test- Season 2 (also watched all of the specials)
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/3/28992.jpg)
This season is much better than the first- meaning much funnier!  ;D

Essentially this show is just a silly sitcom, except instead of the typical American sitcom which involves a family, it's the typical anime sitcom, which involves high school kids. The main characters are in Class F in a school divided between grades (A-F). Class A gets a nice classroom with treats, and Class F gets cardboard boxes for desks.

This anime relies heavily on running jokes, but strangely, they didn't even get old for me. For example, throughout the series, one of the girls is always made fun of for having a flat chest. One day, they get their new "Avatars" in (they're like miniature virtual characters that they battle that look like their owners), and their Avatar forms are all a surprise. The girl says, "I bet mine is going to be gorgeous," and the Avatar pops out. It is a 10 foot tall, 3 inch wide, flat piece of stone.  ;D

It would be so nice if some day I can reach a point where all I do is sit in my room, watching shows like this, and never having to go outside. Watching this is pure bliss compared to the perpetual misery of going out into the world.

next up: Legend of the Galactic Heroes (110 episodes)  ???
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on January 28, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
I've seen Paprika, it's pretty mind bending!  Since Paranoia Agent is only 4 dvds I'll put it on the queue. :)

btw 2 of the dvds are missing so I took it off the queue. :(  I've been watching Claymore off of watch instantly:

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Seems pretty good so far. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 29, 2012, 07:30:02 AM
Hm... I'll be interested in what you think of Claymore. I liked it at first, but as it went on, I got increasingly bored of it, and quit with about 5 or 6 episodes to go (the only time I've done that with a show, other than Durarara). But don't let that stop you- hopefully you end up liking it more than I did.

btw, if you aren't opposed to it, here's the link that I used to watch Paranoia Agent:
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v305784qkAMfeZJ?h1=Paranoia+Agent+01

Where are you watching your stuff from, Netflix?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on January 29, 2012, 08:23:17 AM
I've only watched 2 ep of Claymore... will let you know if I give up.

I might try your link... but I think I'll checkout the anime channel on my roku box first.  Up to this point it has been all netflix.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on January 29, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
Hm... I'll be interested in what you think of Claymore. I liked it at first, but as it went on, I got increasingly bored of it, and quit with about 5 or 6 episodes to go (the only time I've done that with a show, other than Durarara). But don't let that stop you- hopefully you end up liking it more than I did.
I picked up the first vol of Claymore cheap, and enjoyed it well enough, but felt no need to pursue it any further (it finished with the first flashback ep, which just seemed "right" as an ending).

Recent viewing:

Black Blood Brothers - Not brilliant but reasonably enjoyable. The DVDs come with Jap audio commentary for each ep, which is good added value.
Clannad season 1 - Dragged a bit during the Kotomi arc, but overall very good. Touching, and with some likable characters, including the main male who for once in a harem show is not a passive cipher. Certainly the best anime adaptation of a Key game yet, and Clannad After Story is on my to-buy list.
Jinki Extend - Starts as a decent Eva rip-off, but quickly gets confused by flashbacks (actually flashforwards) to different characters in a different location. Terribleness partly explained by being based on a manga which itself was a sequel to another manga - that explains why many characters and relationships aren't explained, but not why the story is so silly and the execution so drab. Ultimately a waste of time, not recommended.
Best Student Council - Pretty terrible, but the best unwatched anime I own so am proceeding through it slowly. It's a very cliched comedy-drama set in an elite girls school. Predictable, UNFUNNY, two-dimensional characters ;) and weirdly stilted execution. Not recommended.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 29, 2012, 07:02:24 PM
Clannad season 1 - Dragged a bit during the Kotomi arc, but overall very good. Touching, and with some likable characters, including the main male who for once in a harem show is not a passive cipher. Certainly the best anime adaptation of a Key game yet, and Clannad After Story is on my to-buy list.
This is the only one I've even heard of out of the 4 you listed, and is among my favorites.

You might have read about Clannad After Story- be prepared for it. There's a reason why it was on ranked #1 MAL for a long time. That season is pure catharsis- it's been a couple years since I watched but, but it still haunts me when I think about it.

Be prepared to do a lot of this:  :'(
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 19, 2012, 06:27:53 PM
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Bakemonogatari
("Ghost Stories")
15 episodes

Three words: LOTS OF DIALOGUE.
The plot is about a guy who meets different girls who are afflicted with some supernatural illness and ends up bringing them to this witch doctor of some sort who heals them. Each girl makes up a story arc, and there are 5 in the series, each spanning a few episodes. Keeping in mind that the series is based off of story arcs is really the only thing that keeps it feeling like a somewhat slow-paced, free-flowing rhapsody.

The animation and style of the show is definitely unique, although certain things get old after awhile- for example, cutting to the half-second screenshots that are either black or red randomly and the close up of the main character's hair either sticking up or drooping. It has an "artsy" feel.

What I mean by "lots of dialogue" is that there are a couple of episodes where the main character is talking to one of the girls for literally the entire episode, and in the same place. I don't mind, but it can stretch the patience thin when you realize that much of it is just the silly, messing your with mind type of conversation that girls usually have. Most of the show is dialogue of this type, but there are action moments here and there to break it up a bit.

Overall, it's good, but I'm undecided whether I like the style or not (although people seem to really like it). Probably it doesn't help that I either like shows that are outrageously intense or outrageously funny, and this is neither. I am looking forward to the 11-episode sequel which should finish airing soon and the movie prequel that will be out sometime this year.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on February 19, 2012, 06:39:45 PM
Watched Perfect Blue very good movie.  It's a real mind fuck following what's going on.  Much more challenging and interesting than it's derivative, Black Swan.

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on February 19, 2012, 07:13:07 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/11/25771.jpg)
Bakemonogatari
("Ghost Stories")
15 episodes

Any explanation for the scissors and setsquares and staplers etc?
 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 20, 2012, 06:57:31 AM
Any explanation for the scissors and setsquares and staplers etc?
It's not random.  ;)

This girl (Senjougahara) is the first girl the male protagonist (Araragi) encounters. Her curse is that some Crab spirit is taking away her weight, and she is light as a feather. In the opening sequence, she is falling (more like floating) off of a circular staircase, and Araragi catches her.

She threatens anyone that finds out her weight secret by stapling their mouth closed and using school supplies as weapons (whatever you can bring into school without getting into trouble, basically). A tsundere character for sure, but I like her very much  :-*.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 24, 2012, 06:15:04 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/3/17766.jpg)
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Kuuchuu Buranko
Translated as "Flying Trapeze"
English title: "Welcome to Dr. Irabu's Office"
11 episodes

Dr. Irabu is a psychologist and Mayumi is his nurse sidekick (Dr. Irabu is in the first pic, Mayumi in the second). Dr. Irabu is just crazy. Mayumi is played by a professional model, Yumi Sugimoto. She never smiles, is quite cold, and has no friends. But I enjoy watching her, anyways.  8)

Each episode follows the same pattern: a patient enters Dr.Irabu's office, gets a vitamin injection from the nurse, Mayumi (there is literally no reason for this), and then throughout the rest of the episode, he helps them work through whatever their condition is. Some of the more interesting conditions included a businessman with a permanent erection, a pro baseball player with Yips, a Yakuza who is afraid of sharp edges, and an obsessive-compulsive reporter who runs back to his apartment constantly fearing he left something on which would start a fire or something destructive.

The main thing to note is that this show is one-of-a-kind in terms of artistic styling. They blend actual actors with animated characters with various degrees of intensity, depending on the scene. For example, they have a completely real Mayumi, a half-drawn half-anime Mayumi (like in the pic above), and a fully anime Mayumi (they do this to most characters). Also, they randomly (and often) draw crowds of people as two-dimensional and flat (perhaps alluding to perception of strangers?)  :D Another odd thing is that an actual doctor stops the show every now and then and provides additional information explaining the conditions of the character of that episode (see picture no.3).

Although the ritual of the injection and seeing the shot thrown into the garbage every single episode got old, it was just fun to watch, since it was such an odd show. The art style alone makes it a must watch.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 25, 2012, 08:28:11 AM
Now starting Spice and Wolf, which is two seasons of 13 episodes each. I will start Legend of the Galactic Heroes once I finish playing Bioshock, because I want to keep myself at no more than 2 projects of either video games or anime at the same time.

First episode: great start. Takes place in a word similar to medieval England, and the main character is a traveling merchant. In the first episode, he learns about the heretics and their god, who is a wolf. He happens to meet her, because she was sleeping in his cart, and by the end of the episode, they start their merchant traveling journey together. Looks fantastic. It's quite a popular show, btw.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 26, 2012, 05:04:21 PM
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Spice and Wolf- Season 1
13 episodes

As I mentioned in the previous post, this show is about those two characters traveling and trading. They get into some dangerous situations as can be imagined with that type of business, but in the most desperate time, since she's a wolf god, she can transform into a gigantic wolf and tear people apart. Most of the show involves Lawrence (the main character) and Holo (the wolf girl in the picture) talking- mild romance involved. I really like Holo's accent- it's basically Osaka-ben with some Edo-period vocabulary thrown in. Best accent ever.

Good show, though not to the extent that I find it absolutely enthralling or mindblowing. This week, I'll watch season 2...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 29, 2012, 08:57:10 AM
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Spice and Wolf- Season 2
12 episodes + OVA (20 min.) + 2 specials (3 min. each)

Until they (hopefully) release a season 3, completely done with Spice and Wolf!

They continue their journey up to the north and visit towns along the way, as in the first season. They get into a few situations, one involving a duel between Lawrence and a guy (Amati) wanting to marry Horo- except, the twist is, it's an economic duel involving a bet whether Amati will be able to pay back Horo's debt to Lawrence, and it involved the rising price of pyrite (Lawrence's plan was to somehow lower the price of pyrite to win the duel).

Dialogue is ever-flowing, like a river of words. You really have to pay attention constantly, as this may be one of the most "wordy" anime out there (if not the most). You'll get lost on exactly what is happening if you don't (as I did), but it's still enjoyable if you don't understand the fine details of how their trading businesses work.

Horo and Lawrence get even closer in this season, although as always, a platonic relationship, and this aspect of the story is extremely well developed. Horo is just too adorable.

It's over...  :-X  :(
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 07, 2012, 08:35:40 PM
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Lucky Star
24 episodes + OVA (40 min.)

They look like a bunch of Skittles.

I pretty much watched this for 2 reasons: 1) it was the only anime by KyoAni I haven't watched yet (other than Munto, which no one watches) and 2) this is the last of what I'd consider the MAJOR anime to watch if you want to claim you are verse in anime. Pleasure wasn't a reason, which is probably why I put it off.

This is a slice of life comedy just like the 3 other major ones I've seen (Azumanga Daioh, Nichijou, and K-On). All 4 involve high school girls talking, and there is either no solid story and just a vague sense of time. Out of the 4, Lucky Star is the most popular, but the one I thought was the best was Nichijou. In comparison, Lucky Star is dry and normal. It has none of the surreal, crazy elements of Nichijou- it's just girls talking- literally, that's it. At times, it can get quite funny, and it feels like it could have some potential, but the type of humor they aim for most of the time just isn't funny.

Overall, I don't recommend it, unless you are curious about this somewhat infamous show. If you don't like slice-of-life moe crap sitcoms, avoid. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy it, but quality-wise it doesn't rise above, say, an average American sitcom. There are PLENTY of better anime to spend time with.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on March 29, 2012, 11:20:59 PM
Xam'd : Lost Memories

I bought the DVD set from Amazon UK, and found to my horror that the first disc was dub only. They gave me a refund and said don't bother with the expense of returning it by mail, which was nice of them.

I watched eps 8 and 9 (the first ones with Jap audio) this morning, and was so glad I got a refund on this. The many characters are flat stereotypes, and the dialog is very obvious, being either exposition or, well, exposition. The animation is competent but let down by the story. I'd say skip it.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 30, 2012, 05:26:08 AM
I read that the characters end up changing towards the end of the show.

And the plot sounds cool:
Quote
Synopsis
Sentan Island is a small island surrounded by the Yuden Sea. It exists in a state of dreamlike tranquility, cut off from the war between the Northern Government and the Southern Continent Free Zone. Our hero, Akiyuki Takehara, lives on Sentain Island along with his mother Fusa. He is currently separated from his father, the town doctor Ryuzo, but the bond between father and son remains. One day, after taking Ryuzo the lunch that Fusa has made for him as usual, Akiyuki arrives at school, where he is caught up in an explosion along with his friends, Haru and Furuichi. The explosion produces a mysterious light, which enters Akiyuki's arm, causing him excruciating pain. He's given no time to understand it, however, as the white-haired girl who rode on the bus with him guides him to a power unlike anything he's ever known.
Hmmm....

I bet the seller let you get the refund without having to return it so they could keep high seller ratings.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on March 31, 2012, 01:55:47 AM
I read that the characters end up changing towards the end of the show.

And the plot sounds cool:Hmmm....

I bet the seller let you get the refund without having to return it so they could keep high seller ratings.  :D

That could definitely be part of it. :)

I've ordered the DVDs of the first 3 series of Armored Troopers Votoms, which is supposed to be one of the great mecha series. The art looks pretty dated, however, with it being made in the early 1980s.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on April 03, 2012, 01:46:56 PM
Last anime I watched was Princess Mononoke — definitely in my top 3 Miyazaki films (along with Nausicää and Castle in the Sky). Loved the characters and the beautiful painterliness of it all. It's also probably his most morally-ambiguous and violent film — which is, of course, a big part of the reason I like it. :D

On another anime-related note, I'm listening to Susumu Hirasawa's soundtrack for Millennium Actress — sweeping synthscapes with ethereal, floating scraps of distorted vocals.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on April 03, 2012, 05:41:19 PM
Last anime I watched was Princess Mononoke — definitely in my top 3 Miyazaki films (along with Nausicää and Castle in the Sky). Loved the characters and the beautiful painterliness of it all. It's also probably his most morally-ambiguous and violent film — which is, of course, a big part of the reason I like it. :D

On another anime-related note, I'm listening to Susumu Hirasawa's soundtrack for Millennium Actress — sweeping synthscapes with ethereal, floating scraps of distorted vocals.

Such truthful words here, Coco..have you seen Porco Rosso?

Also, the soundtrack for Paprika, another Susumu Hirasawa score, is wildly superb.


Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on April 03, 2012, 05:46:30 PM
I've seen Princess Monoke several times, it's just great. :)  I have to admit that I still have not heard the English voice acting, and I hear they got some big names to do it.  I've always preferred original language+subtitles.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on April 03, 2012, 05:51:46 PM
I've seen Princess Monoke several times, it's just great. :)  I have to admit that I still have not heard the English voice acting, and I hear they got some big names to do it.  I've always preferred original language+subtitles.

I only watch these films in Japanese with English subtitles, for the Miyazaki films, they seem to just hire big name actors more for the marketing appeal and it's rarely successful. I first saw Princess Mononoke in a theater only showing the English Dubbed and I didn't care for it, months later obtained a Japanese version and it really was like watching a different movie.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on April 04, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
I've seen Princess Monoke several times, it's just great. :)  I have to admit that I still have not heard the English voice acting, and I hear they got some big names to do it.  I've always preferred original language+subtitles.

They got John Dimaggio doing some of the background voices! If you like Futurama, you'll recognise his voice pretty much straight away. Miyazaki films get better dubs than most anime, a perk of being distributed by Disney (even if most of the films are barely publicised).

My favourite Miyazaki films:

 Spirited Away
 Kiki's Delivery Service
 Princess Mononoke

I also really enjoyed Ponyo when I saw it in the cinema, but will need to see it again.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 04, 2012, 06:11:09 PM
My favorite Miyazaki films:
Ponyo
Castle in the Sky
Porco Rosso
Kiki's Delivery Service

And I agree about them getting better dubs... if I accidentally start watching a series with an English dub and all of a sudden realize "oh, no, it's a dub!" then I'm shocked, because often dubs are so bad they ruin the show. Imagine watching a classic movie (say, for example, Schindler's List or Seven Samurai) while your neighbors do the voice acting. That's how bad some of them are. 
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on April 05, 2012, 07:56:55 PM
I hated Ponyo when I saw it in theaters. :( That could very well have been due to the American voice actors though.

I'd like to see more non-Miyazaki Studio Ghibli stuff like Pom Poko and Tales from Earthsea — even though they probably aren't as good as H.M.'s stuff.

Just watched the first five eps of this:

(http://comicattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/kinosjourneydvd.jpg)

I love this show already! It has a stillness and a childlike feeling that I enjoy, though it's also neither boring nor banal. Heartwarming, thought-provoking and completely charming.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 06, 2012, 05:58:57 AM
I love this show already! It has a stillness and a childlike feeling that I enjoy, though it's also neither boring nor banal. Heartwarming, thought-provoking and completely charming.
Sums it up quite well!  :)
Episode 5 was my favorite episode. I remember explaining it to my friends at lunch and we all laughed so hard, since it was just so bizarre.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on April 06, 2012, 06:07:11 AM
I hated Ponyo when I saw it in theaters. :( That could very well have been due to the American voice actors though.

I'd like to see more non-Miyazaki Studio Ghibli stuff like Pom Poko and Tales from Earthsea — even though they probably aren't as good as H.M.'s stuff.

Just watched the first five eps of this:

(http://comicattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/kinosjourneydvd.jpg)

I love this show already! It has a stillness and a childlike feeling that I enjoy, though it's also neither boring nor banal. Heartwarming, thought-provoking and completely charming.

It's been almost 7 years since I've taken in a new, good anime series, this sounds like it may be a good one to comeback with.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Mirror Image on April 06, 2012, 07:25:05 AM
So this is where all the real nerds meet...

Thankfully, I'm just a music nerd. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Coco on April 06, 2012, 09:51:10 AM
So this is where all the real nerds meet...

Thankfully, I'm just a music nerd. :)

Appreciation of any art is nerdy when you think about it. That said, I absolutely cop to being a total nerd.  :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Mirror Image on April 06, 2012, 10:01:37 AM
Appreciation of any art is nerdy when you think about it. That said, I absolutely cop to being a total nerd.  :P

:D

I took an online quiz about dorkiness or something like that and I think I scored an 85% which is still a high percentage. But we're all nerds in some regard.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 06, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
:D

I took an online quiz about dorkiness or something like that and I think I scored an 85% which is still a high percentage. But we're all nerds in some regard.
It's better than the alternative...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Mirror Image on April 06, 2012, 02:41:59 PM
It's better than the alternative...

Yeah, I'm proud to be a nerd. :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on April 06, 2012, 08:21:54 PM
I'd like to see more non-Miyazaki Studio Ghibli stuff like Pom Poko and Tales from Earthsea — even though they probably aren't as good as H.M.'s stuff.

[Kino's journey]

I love this show already! It has a stillness and a childlike feeling that I enjoy, though it's also neither boring nor banal. Heartwarming, thought-provoking and completely charming.

The Ghibli films made by Miyazaki's partner haven't impressed me. They tend to artiness, but of a second-rate sort (IMHO). I quite like Tales of Earthsea, which came in for a critical drubbing (though mostly by the book fans) - for a first feature (by Miyazaki Jr), it's excellent.

I enjoyed Kino's Journey, but found it ultimately perhaps too cerebral to be completely satisfying. It seems concerned overall with didactic point-making.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 07, 2012, 03:57:36 AM
It seems concerned overall with didactic point-making.
I guess you could say it can teach lessons or morals, but what really makes it interesting is how Kino remains so detached about all of this.  She sees the stupidest things and people you could imagine and does not offer an opinion, but simply goes along with it, respecting the people's beliefs and attitudes. That way, it leaves only the viewer to think, "Wow, these people are so dumb."

They should have a sequel where the three guys who have been assembling, polishing, and disassembling the same railroad track without each other's knowledge for the last 50 years meet. They just wasted their lives accomplishing nothing with their work.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 20, 2012, 06:37:15 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/8/38229.jpg)
Hotarubi no Mori e
("To Firefly Light Forest")
40 min.

Holy f*&$. Had no idea a 40-min. movie could be so good.
It's a story about girl who visits a forest each summer and develops a friendship with one of the spirits. Sounds boring, but somehow manages to be interesting.
What amazes me is how far from cliche and original watching this feels. It's just so "artistic."


The whole "movie" can be watched here:
http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/8/38229.jpg
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 02, 2012, 11:06:40 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/10/35619.jpg)
Nisemonogatari
("Impostory")
11 episodes
(this is the sequel to Bakemonogatari- I reviewed it here: http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,8953.msg603092.html#msg603092)

Just like that, but less interesting and an overabundance of fan service. I really don't know what to think about this one.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 06, 2012, 06:15:19 PM
Currently rewatching Noien : To your other self, a series which did not impress me but which I promised myself I would watch again in order to evaluate properly. The setup is good (to do with alternative universes), but by episode 6 things have really gone downhill. Our heroine has been kidnapped and taken to an alternate dimension which appears to be a post-apocalyptic future, but when anyone tells her this, she responds "Uso!" (Lie!). That gets old real quick. Meanwhile, the rest of the characters seem to only interact by bickering and complaining.

The first episode has an angular, occasionally distorted "experimental" look, but the show soon calms down into a fairly generic style.

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 06, 2012, 06:33:27 PM
Currently rewatching Noien : To your other self
Cool. The plot piqued my interest when I was reading it a while back, but I'm not sure I'll ever watch it.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 15, 2012, 05:45:07 PM
Now watching Steins;Gate (just over halfway through).

Ranked #3 on MAL, I expected a lot, and so far, it's meeting expectations. It's a show about a group of people who develop a method of sending text messages to the past and are trying to develop this through experiments. It starts off fun, but gradually gets ominous (usually through cliffhangers), and now I'm at the part where it seems the show is finally taking a different direction and there is some serious conflict. The best things about the show are the lovable characters and the fascinating ideas (and usage) of time. The artwork has a grayish tint to everything, which makes it feel somewhat drab.

I'm going to try to watch this less for now (the pacing is so slow that I don't mind taking a break, anyways), but I can't wait to go into more detail when I finish it.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 16, 2012, 12:24:08 AM
I think I heard the plot for that one was kind of crazy.


BTW, took delivery of Sound of the Sky and Tokko recently, but still have to finish Noien. I'm hoping Sound of the Sky will be awesome - it sounds like just my sort of thing.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 16, 2012, 05:10:46 AM
I'm wondering how you go about making decisions on these...

The Japanese name of Sound of the Sky (Sora no Oto) sounds familiar, but Tokko is the one I'm wondering why you chose, because it has a pretty awful ranking of #3315 on MAL. From what I'm reading, don't expect an ending.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 16, 2012, 05:15:15 PM
Well, first of all, Tokko was really cheap! It's also in the horror genre, which interests me. As far as I can judge from the reviews, the show ends up not going anywhere, but since it's short I don't think that would matter so much. Anyway, I'll report back once I've watched it.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 17, 2012, 04:27:13 AM
I had a suspicion it was something like that.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 17, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
I watched the first 3 eps of Tokko just to see what the fuss was about. The main thing I didn't pick up from reviews was how primitive this show looks. It was made in 2006, but doesn't have the glossy look we're used to in modern anime, and the character designs look crude, generic and old fashioned. The dramatic style is the more meatheaded kind of seinen, with big boobs and shouty he-men (well, mostly the yakuza-style police chief, but he does enough Kansai shouting for everyone).

The actual horror element of the show seems to have been done by someone with a good feel for mood, but this too is animated in a fairly primitive way, and is undermined by the dreck surrounding it.


Also, the hero has stupid hair (on right):

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp185/MeiYiYeung/Screenies/TOKKO-04.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 17, 2012, 06:02:22 PM
That is some stupid hair!   :D
I actually don't mind that art style (stuff like Yuyu Hakusho, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc.), but I do prefer that modern, glossy, look you're referring to (Clannad, etc.)- my favorite art style in any type of animation.

Hope it's worth the money, at least.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 17, 2012, 06:29:51 PM
That is some stupid hair!   :D
I actually don't mind that art style (stuff like Yuyu Hakusho, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc.), but I do prefer that modern, glossy, look you're referring to (Clannad, etc.)- my favorite art style in any type of animation.

Hope it's worth the money, at least.  ;D

Well, everything's a learning experience :D

I don't mind the "primitive" style if it has some individuality (Berserk, Initial D, even ugly ol' Blue Gender), but Tokko is just too cookie-cutter.

BTW, Berserk was one of my formative-period animes, and I picked up a cheap slimpack of it recently, so I'll be reassessing that at some point this year. I agree(d) with the consensus on this one - it's a great, surprisingly sophisticated shonen anime, but with one of the most WTF endings of all time (just in terms of "They're ending it HERE?").
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 18, 2012, 03:54:42 AM
BTW, Berserk was one of my formative-period animes, and I picked up a cheap slimpack of it recently, so I'll be reassessing that at some point this year. I agree(d) with the consensus on this one - it's a great, surprisingly sophisticated shonen anime, but with one of the most WTF endings of all time (just in terms of "They're ending it HERE?").
That is a show I've been wanting to watch one day.

Well, the explanation for Berserk ending in a strange way has to be that the manga is still ongoing, for the last 22 years or so.
This: but with one of the most WTF endings of all time (just in terms of "They're ending it HERE?") explains the ending of Gantz completely, because the manga is also still ongoing, but the studio had to make up their own ending. Even Elfen Lied had a somewhat inconclusive ending, due to the manga not having ended up yet at that time.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 19, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/6/29357.jpg)
Steins;Gate
24 episodes + 1 special episode

Okabe is a self-proclaimed "mad scientist" who stumbles upon a way to send text messages to the past. Although in reality he is very normal, he just likes to pretend to be odd. Often, he pretends to call someone and has a conversation with them; other times, when someone doesn't want to explain something to him, he makes up a story: "It all started one night in the plains of Arkansas..."

He forms a group of lab members:: Makise is the genius girl, Daru is the hacker, and Mayuri is a friend that isn't intellectuals like them, but is there to pretty much just cheer them on. There's also Moeka and Suzuha.

The first part of the show is quite light-hearted and funny. The main character is goofy (unlike in the second half of the show), and they are pretty much just a group of normal people who are discovering something beyond what they should be involved in. I think it is the end of episode 14 where everything changes.

Whereas the first part of Steins;Gate is the slice-of-life anime, the second half is the intricate psychological drama that really shows the negative aspects of time travel. I'll try not to spoil it, but one detail that fascinated me for anyone if they watch this: pay attention to Okabe's expression when he gets back from leaping through world lines, and just try to imagine what that would be like. How would your perception of reality change in that scenario?

I wish I could talk all about it, but I'd give it all away, since there are so many twists and turns, yet all of these are actually believable and well thought-out- it's like a giant puzzle (think of all of the details that went on in Death Note, but more complex). The (very) minor things I have a little bit of a problem with is that it get quite close to being corny in some moments, and also that the same characters and scenery grew wearying at some points. Overall, the show definitely deserves such a high ranking on MAL (#3). Masterpiece for sure.

The special episode: they go to America. Every time Okabe says something strange, he gets arrested. This and the scene where Okabe meets some black guy on the street in Japan and says, "What's uuuuppp? I emu ah maddo scientisto! So cuuuuulllu! Sunuvabitch!" (and throws deuces) proves the writer really knows their American stereotypes.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 20, 2012, 05:11:03 PM
Whereas the first part of Steins;Gate is the slice-of-life anime, the second half is the intricate psychological drama that really shows the negative aspects of time travel. I'll try not to spoil it, but one detail that fascinated me for anyone if they watch this: pay attention to Okabe's expression when he gets back from leaping through world lines, and just try to imagine what that would be like. How would your perception of reality change in that scenario?

The special episode: they go to America. Every time Okabe says something strange, he gets arrested. This and the scene where Okabe meets some black guy on the street in Japan and says, "What's uuuuppp? I emu ah maddo scientisto! So cuuuuulllu! Sunuvabitch!" (and throws deuces) proves the writer really knows their American stereotypes.  ;D

I am intrigued! I will have to add this to my watch list.

Speaking of time travel, did you ever see Primer? (live action)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 20, 2012, 05:28:25 PM
I haven't heard of that movie, but after reading about it, it sounds fascinating!  That looks like it will be some fun viewing. :)

Time travel stuff has always been to my liking; in fact, many years ago, when I was in middle school or so and my parents would check out a movie every weekend, one movie stood out the most: it was called Frequency. Throughout the movie, there was a sort of unending suspense due to time travel. Now that I think about it, probably the time travel element of Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross might explain why they are some of my favorite games...  :P

Also, I forgot to mention that Steins;Gate is heavily influenced by John Titor and his "time travel"- in fact, he and the IBM 5100 are a significant element to the show. John Titor was the name of someone who became famous on the internet for making up a hoax about traveling to the year 2036; before Steins;Gate I never heard about any of that, though.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 21, 2012, 10:42:25 AM
Watched Primer today:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,33.msg631178.html#msg631178
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on May 27, 2012, 04:52:24 PM

Finished Sound of the Sky. Overall it's okay. Sadly the moe pandering undermines all emotional realism, meaning this is not a show with much longevity.

One episode of Pani Poni Dash. Ugh. Just not funny.


Started (re)watching Berserk over the weekend. Fortunately it's as good as I remembered. Real manly violence stuff, but with a high degree of conviction and integrity. It also has a great strong look, but sadly still stuck in 4:3. The black bars ruin some great frames!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lmEo6XzFNKY/SiSiaRpW_KI/AAAAAAAAEDU/FsbQJghu31o/s320/ScreenShot013.jpg)

That's not phallic at all, no sir.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 28, 2012, 03:49:29 AM
That's not phallic at all, no sir.
:D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on July 15, 2012, 07:02:14 PM
Watched a few things recently:

First ep of Princess Resurrection - crap.

First ep of old series Night Walker - crap.

Dance in the Vampire Bund - interesting elements, but progressively bogged down by cliches.

Angel Beats (first half) - better than I expected. Many cliched elements, but the basic concept makes it interesting and fresh. Interesting to note influence of Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya ("elite" high school team) and K-ON (lame rock band fantasy). Probably the worst part (so far) was rotoscoping used to animate the rock band performance - giant-headed anime babes with bodies moving like real people is just grotesque.


Also, and this is something probably only anime fans will get, it occurred to me on the weekend that Julian Assange is a totally cliche anime villain (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhiteHairedPrettyBoy)! Lanky, supercilious, sexually deviant albino perpetrating world-wide conspiracy with no apparent aim beyond causing chaos.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 18, 2012, 03:33:53 PM
Angel Beats (first half) - better than I expected.
Angel Beats I really enjoyed.
It is indeed very Haruhi-influenced (notorious for it, in fact, especially because of the similarity of the main character, Yurippe, to Haruhi). It also shares the similarity of being a refreshing mixture of comedy and drama with a very unorthodox plot.

One of my favorite parts is when they try to create a distraction in the classroom, but Yurippe "put a jetpack underneath your seat just in case you messed up." They go to whatever lengths they can and always end up crashing into the ceiling.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on July 18, 2012, 06:04:57 PM
One of my favorite parts is when they try to create a distraction in the classroom, but Yurippe "put a jetpack underneath your seat just in case you messed up." They go to whatever lengths they can and always end up crashing into the ceiling.

Yes, I don't usually laugh much at comedies, but this scene caught me off guard and made me burst out laughing (after the guy does his humiliating confession-of-love distraction, then sits down - a beat - boom!).


Corrected Princess Revolution to Princess Resurrection.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 18, 2012, 06:33:23 PM
"put a jetpack underneath your seat just in case you messed up."
I also have a correction to make- it's "I put a jet propulsion engine underneath your seat just in case you messed up."

Ha, here's the abridged scene:

http://www.youtube.com/v/fORH60LtOt4

Well, have fun with the second half of the show. Good, but so sad...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on July 19, 2012, 11:46:29 PM
I just ordered some cheap DVDs:

Ghost in the Shell redux (movie)
Ghost Hunt
High School of the Dead
Black Butler season 1 (I hear season 2 is a travesty)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 21, 2012, 05:13:28 AM
High School of the Dead, eh?...
The overuse of fan service + the fact that that was the one of the last anime Mr.Anime reviewed before plotting to shoot up his old high school kind of gives me an aversion to it.  :-X
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on July 22, 2012, 04:42:23 PM
High School of the Dead, eh?...
The overuse of fan service + the fact that that was the one of the last anime Mr.Anime reviewed before plotting to shoot up his old high school kind of gives me an aversion to it.  :-X

Ack! Well, I like a bit of zombie blammo action, and it was only $15. The reviews prewarned me of bouncing boobies and minimal/inconsistent characterisation. If it's so bad it drives me to kill, I'll give you a heads-up.  ;)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on July 29, 2012, 10:12:04 PM
Greg, if you're looking for more stuff like Lain, here are some titles:

Boogiepop Phantom
Paranoia Agent
Ghost Hound
Texhnolyze
Welcome to the NHK
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 30, 2012, 05:55:53 PM
Greg, if you're looking for more stuff like Lain, here are some titles:

Boogiepop Phantom
Paranoia Agent
Ghost Hound
Texhnolyze
Welcome to the NHK
Thanks.

I've heard Boogipop Phantom and Texhnolyze suggested before. Paranoia Agent and Welcome to the NHK are, of course, among my top favorites. Ghost Hound I've never heard of before.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on July 30, 2012, 06:32:50 PM
I've heard Boogipop Phantom and Texhnolyze suggested before. Paranoia Agent and Welcome to the NHK are, of course, among my top favorites. Ghost Hound I've never heard of before.

Ghost Hound is great for most of its length, but devolves into a more formulaic kind of anime for its last few episodes. But before then, it's mysterious and creepy in a low-key way, each episode touching on a different area of fringe brain science (out-of-body experiences, possession, group mind, psychic residue). The "previously on" opening segments are deliciously creepy (there's that word again).

(In case you check out the first ep, I thought it had problematic sound, maybe overly compressed - every sound effect seemed equally loud. Sound was fine for subsequent eps.)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 04, 2012, 11:20:20 AM
Quote
2: why does this girl insist on protecting him at all costs? This question will need to be explained later, because it doesn't make much sense.
Solved. Just 3 episodes in, and I'm already dizzy from all of the twists and turns.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 06, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
On episode 19/26. Should finish tomorrow.
Ep.18 answers the questions I had about the girl since the first episode... very good show with a couple of flaws if you want to be critical. I'm hooked and really enjoying it.

Next, 2 movies:
K-On!
Denpateki na Kanojo
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on August 06, 2012, 04:48:19 PM
On episode 19/26. Should finish tomorrow.
Ep.18 answers the questions I had about the girl since the first episode... very good show with a couple of flaws if you want to be critical. I'm hooked and really enjoying it.

I've no idea what you're watching.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 07, 2012, 10:33:55 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/13/33465.jpg)
Miraki Nikki
26 episodes

Well, well, well. So much to say about this show, which will likely be finished in a separate post, as I have to go to work in a bit.

For now:
This show is INSANE. I mean, freaking INSANE. The wildest show you'll ever watch.

(to be continued in part 2)

I've no idea what you're watching.
I must have modified my post and deleted what I wrote. Again.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 07, 2012, 06:46:10 PM
(part 2)

The plot:
{
    Yukki Amano, the protagonist, is a whiny (honestly, irritatingly whiny) middle school kid who keeps to himself. One day, a deity named        Deus selects 12 participants from his hometown (Sakurami) to battle to the death, and the remaining winner inherits the throne of Deus and becomes God (hopefully before Deus' bodies crumbles). These 12 participants are named (from "First," which is Yukki, to "Twelfth"). I read on wikipedia that this was modeled after the 12 Olympians.

   Then there is the stalker girl, who is about as equally important on this show as Yukki, who does anything to protect him. Her name is Gasai Yuno (Second). One of the major themes in the story is whether Yukki should trust her or not, and this theme continues from beginning to end.
}



My thoughts:
{
   I only watched this show because I heard it being compared to Steins;Gate, but in reality, besides cell phones revealing the future, it's nothing like it. Steins;Gate is also complex, but it's also much more refined. This show has absolutely no sense of refinement- it's presentation is very straightforward, while the actual plot and events have to be some of the most complex I've seen.

   First, problems with this show: I have a few myself. Yukki is way too annoyingly whiny. He was even voiced by a woman. At times, the composer decides to chime in with the show, creating music that makes scenes corny. There's not much music in the show, but it probably would have been best to leave it all out. Also, of course they single out attacking First (Yukki). Not much of a show if a third party character tries to kill another third party character, huh?

   The main problem with the show that many people have that I can understand is that it is so over-the-top and convoluted that I almost don't know what to think. Some people are very opinionated and clearly state that it is a train wreck of a show because it tries to do so much and doesn't make any sense. What I say to this is that it does make sense if you piece the many pieces together, but at times it indeed does stretch believability; many shows do this, though- mainly the killing endless amounts of security guards, escaping so many times from battles, people arriving at the last second to save someone, etc. I'm not sure if this show is the greatest thing ever (with a few flaws), or a story written by a guy in an insane asylum. 

   Another problem some people may have is how much bad and ridiculous stuff it has in it. Several deaths each episode, a couple of rape scenes, a couple of child abandonment cases, patricide, children locked in cages filled with their own urine, terrorism, betrayal, etc. Since this show is packed with this stuff, it makes you feel tense from beginning to end.

   The good things: just about everyone can agree that it maintains your attention, whether you like the show or not. Practically every episodes there are multiple cliffhangers. The tension in this show does not let up and neither does the curiosity.

   Yuno's character is something else. People think Heath Ledger's role in The Dark Knight was brilliantly crazy? Well, Gasai Yuno would put him to shame, as she gleefully cuts off heads while exclaiming, "Yukki will praise me now! I'll do anything for my one true love, Yukki!".

   The last few episodes get more and more bizarre and apocalyptic, as it introduces a new element into the show that explains a lot of unanswered questions, just when you think it is going to be over. All the while, Yukki and Yuno's relationship gets more interesting as he learns about her for real.

   This is the type of show that, when I finish, it just does something strange to me. Having immersed myself in this show for these three days, it's hard to look at the world and feels it's even important at all. It's like a buzz from some kind of drug or something. This show, despite its flaws, feels like it's trying to do something or convey something more profound than anything that's ever been done in anything. I see similar things in modern anime, and even a few video games, and wonder where the Japanese are getting all of this from. A lot of these stories share similar characteristics and seem to have started around the early 90s and continue today. This would be something really interesting to study. I've read some old Japanese stories and have watched some of Kurosawa's movies, for example, stuff I really love, but all that stuff is traditional Japanese stuff. This modern Japanese stuff takes on a characteristic that is unlike anything I know of... these people had to have been inspired by something, perhaps old German literature I don't know about?
}


 

I may write even more... so many thoughts that cannot possibly be remembered in one sitting.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 07, 2012, 07:13:16 PM
Should've known... all of this dark subject matter was inspired by Evangelion.  :D
It all came from one man's (Hideaki Anno's) depression. I think the unexpected popularity of this very dark and negative show somehow relates to the downward spiral of the Japanese economy. People can relate.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 08, 2012, 07:11:08 PM
This is a fascinating read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anime


Now that I know that Evangelion is the original source from where shows like Elfen Lied, Higurashi, Gantz, Mirai Nikki, etc. got their violence-filled traumatic angst, I couldn't help but wonder where some other strands/genres of anime started from.

Well, a few here:
Sports anime: Captain Tsubasa (1983)
Martial Arts/possibly the first "shounen": Fist of the North Star (1983)
Hentai: Lolita Anime, Cream Lemon (1984)

And the one question I've been wondering for many years: Digimon. When I was kid, there was nothing quite like it. The most epic thing I've watched by far, and to this day I don't think I've watched anything quite as "epic" (I'm probably forgetting something lol)  ::)

Is it original or not?
Well...

Quote
Other 1990s anime series which gained international success were Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, and Digimon; the success of these shows marked the beginning of the martial arts superhero, the magical girl genre, and the action adventure genre respectively
Interesting. I think the show is quite Evangelion-influenced, but toned down a bit for a younger audience. It's quite evident, given the many extreme moments involving deaths and characters' soul-searching or being in prolonged depressive states; in fact, now that I think about it, these aspects scream Evangelion.  ;D

However, the adventure part was on such a grand scale that I'd never seen before. Where did this come from? My only guess is: Pokemon! The monsters + the adventure, obviously.

Digimon = Pokemon + Evangelion

hmmm... feels about right...

Should've known... all of this dark subject matter was inspired by Evangelion.  :D
And the main character, as well, obviously.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on August 08, 2012, 08:55:13 PM
Now that I know that Evangelion is the original source from where shows like Elfen Lied, Higurashi, Gantz, Mirai Nikki, etc. got their violence-filled traumatic angst,

Not sure how true this actually is. The movie Akira has heaps of crazy violence, trauma and angst (and of course Grave of the Fireflies came out the year before that). I suspect various obscure 80s OVAs preceded EVA (and this is overlooking whatever was going on in manga at the time). Legend of the Overfiend is another title, though I haven't seen it. The importance of Anno is more that he led to darker elements becoming more mainstream.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 09, 2012, 03:06:49 AM
Not sure how true this actually is. The movie Akira has heaps of crazy violence, trauma and angst (and of course Grave of the Fireflies came out the year before that). I suspect various obscure 80s OVAs preceded EVA (and this is overlooking whatever was going on in manga at the time). Legend of the Overfiend is another title, though I haven't seen it. The importance of Anno is more that he led to darker elements becoming more mainstream.
In short: yes, exactly.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 12, 2012, 08:08:44 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/12/32007.jpg)
K-On! (Movie)

And a complete 180 from Mirai Nikki...

K-On is, of course, the light and fluffy slice-of-life moe anime about an all-girl high school rock band. Just think of the movie Grownups. Change the setting, keep the same feel (no major conflicts in the entire plot).

The movie takes place right around the end of the second season, when they are about to graduate high school. The entire plot consists of two things: 1) they take a trip to London and 2) they write a farewell song for one of their band members, Azusa, who is a year younger than them.

There are a few funny moments, though you won't be laughing from beginning to end. Half of the humor might be them attempting to speak English and failing miserably (think super-heavy Japanese accents)- "As clear as day": "Azu kuriru azu dei".
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 13, 2012, 05:52:28 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/2/14787.jpg)
Denpateki na Kanojo
2 episodes (OVA) (~43 minutes each)

From the same director as Elfen Lied and Baccano... a somewhat interesting OVA. It has a girl Yandere character, just as in Mirai Nikki, who acts like the main character's servant. In both episodes, there are crimes or pranks of some sort that they investigate.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on August 23, 2012, 08:29:21 PM

HIGH SCHOOL OF THE DEAD
First two episodes watched.

The animation looks good and the zombie component is very well done, but for the most part this is total garbage. All the characters are banal manga cliches, the drama scenes are melodramatic and yet empty, and drawn out to excruciating length; the constant (I mean CONSTANT) fanservice is grotesque and distracting, and the two main female characters express themselves by complaining continously in a high-pitched shriek.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 24, 2012, 04:40:47 AM
Constant fan service is annoying. I had the same experience watching Nisemonogatari. It just cheapens everything.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: snyprrr on August 25, 2012, 07:37:15 AM
I don't know where to Post, but I'm sure Greg has the answers! :D

For some reason, I looked up 'oh noes' and was directed to the Encyclopedia Drammatica,... hoo boy! ::),... aaanyhow, WHAAAT?? are:

4chan

/b/


I surely can't telllll you what I, uh, 'learned' last night (up till 5!!!), but, sheesh, an I really kind of 'normal? I mean,... I mean,... 'shitting dick nipples'?? haha, yea, that's what all this had me doing, oy oy oy...

Somehow, there is certainly a palpable darkness around things,... I've heard of 'Anonymous', and... this is ridiculous,... I felt prehistoric with my reading classes reading about 'lulz',... I guess there is a lulz-sec that is involved with all this hackery,... could the hackers be... gasp... us, or,... THEM!!!??

I don't know,... and I thought conspiracy sites were bad ::),... this is a dark dirty rabbit hole. I can only imagine what a room full of 'guro' fans must be like.


I have always wanted to feel like I was in a movie,... but,... NOT THIS ONE!!! :o

eeeeewwwww :-\
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 25, 2012, 10:16:28 AM
snyprrr discovering the bizarre side of the internet...

just don't get lost in it.  :-\
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Wakefield on August 25, 2012, 10:28:41 AM
(part 2)

The plot:
{
    Yukki Amano, the protagonist, is a whiny (honestly, irritatingly whiny) middle school kid who keeps to himself. One day, a deity named        Deus selects 12 participants from his hometown (Sakurami) to battle to the death, and the remaining winner inherits the throne of Deus and becomes God (hopefully before Deus' bodies crumbles). These 12 participants are named (from "First," which is Yukki, to "Twelfth"). I read on wikipedia that this was modeled after the 12 Olympians.

Mental note while I'm reading this: the 12 apostles, the 12 tribes of Israel... these Japaneses are complicated people.  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: snyprrr on August 25, 2012, 10:55:16 AM
snyprrr discovering the bizarre side of the internet...

just don't get lost in it.  :-\

Something smells funny :-X... sniff snuff
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Wakefield on August 25, 2012, 11:07:06 AM
This is a fascinating read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anime


Now that I know that Evangelion is the original source from where shows like Elfen Lied, Higurashi, Gantz, Mirai Nikki, etc. got their violence-filled traumatic angst, I couldn't help but wonder where some other strands/genres of anime started from.

I think this is probably a way too literal to understand these things. Even accepting that Evangelion was the first creation in detecting this new form to see the reality (a digression: I don't know if you have noticed the word "Evangelion" comes from the Greek and means "announcement", I mention this because in Spanish the Gospels are called "Los Evangelios", so this is very evident), I think there is something new (very dark and confused) in the Japanese spirit arising through anime. I mean something real and not merely an artistic tradition designed to sell videos or magazines. Evangelion was probably one of the first announcements of this reality, but just that. So, I totally agree with your previous post when you said:

My thoughts:
...
   This is the type of show that, when I finish, it just does something strange to me. Having immersed myself in this show for these three days, it's hard to look at the world and feels it's even important at all. It's like a buzz from some kind of drug or something. This show, despite its flaws, feels like it's trying to do something or convey something more profound than anything that's ever been done in anything. I see similar things in modern anime, and even a few video games, and wonder where the Japanese are getting all of this from. A lot of these stories share similar characteristics and seem to have started around the early 90s and continue today. This would be something really interesting to study. I've read some old Japanese stories and have watched some of Kurosawa's movies, for example, stuff I really love, but all that stuff is traditional Japanese stuff. This modern Japanese stuff takes on a characteristic that is unlike anything I know of... these people had to have been inspired by something, perhaps old German literature I don't know about?
 
I may write even more... so many thoughts that cannot possibly be remembered in one sitting.

...  "One day, a deity named Deus selects 12 participants from his hometown (Sakurami) to battle to the death...". BTW, I have read something like this in the other Evangelion.

Surely, I need to watch this thing.

Thanks for your interesting posts, Greg!  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 25, 2012, 06:44:58 PM
I think this is probably a way too literal to understand these things. Even accepting that Evangelion was the first creation in detecting this new form to see the reality (a digression: I don't know if you have noticed the word "Evangelion" comes from the Greek and means "announcement", I mention this because in Spanish the Gospels are called "Los Evangelios", so this is very evident), I think there is something new (very dark and confused) in the Japanese spirit arising through anime. I mean something real and not merely an artistic tradition designed to sell videos or magazines. Evangelion was probably one of the first announcements of this reality, but just that. So, I totally agree with your previous post when you said:
Oh, boy... you are making me want to write my thoughts on Evangelion. A few weeks ago, I spent all night thinking about it. I'll try to be concise.

I'm not an expert on the show (there are entire forums on the internet discussing all of the hidden symbolism and stuff in the show, which is over my head), but I do remember the characters. My personal interpretation of the show is that it is a tale of a boy (Shinji) who is growing up; however, the characters and events are symbolic of growing up during that time when the Japanese recession first started.

Shinji is a normal, sheltered boy. He is thrown into a situation where he has to fight for his own survival and the survival of the planet. His dad is a very strong, manly man. I interpret his dad to be symbolic of the previous generation of Japanese- more fluent and prosperous. Shinji feels like he could never live up to the strength of his dad (symbolic of the new generation not being expected to do as well economically as their parents, which is what is happening in America right now, something I'm experiencing and observing first-hand).

Asuka is the German girl on the show. She is strong and beautiful. Shinji likes her, but has such low self-esteem that he feels like he could never be good enough for her (there are some fascinatingly pathetic scenes to describe this lol). Asuka could represent the new type of Japanese woman- the Japanese woman that grew up in prosperity and western influence (keep in mind that this Asuka character really is German). The Japanese are experiencing low birth rates because they're generally smart, and no smart people intentionally have kids (which is expensive) when they are poor. Unlike the traditional arranged marriage, the western style of marriage is more focused on who the woman chooses, so women often look at money as the main factor for deciding who to marry. The character of Shinji probably resonated well with people without money, therefore looking pitiful in the eyes of women. 

"I think there is something new (very dark and confused) in the Japanese spirit arising through anime."
Yep, and all thanks to the economy. :P
It is something that I haven't encountered anywhere else, indeed, which is one reason why I find it so interesting.


Surely, I need to watch this thing.
Not sure if you are referring to Evangelion or Mirai Nikki, but they are both crazy shows... crazy enough that I can understand if people hate them, though I do love them.


Thanks for your interesting posts, Greg!  :)
Glad you found them interesting!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Wakefield on August 26, 2012, 05:34:42 PM
Not sure if you are referring to Evangelion or Mirai Nikki, but they are both crazy shows... crazy enough that I can understand if people hate them, though I do love them.

I was referring Mirai Nikki.

I watched Evangelion several years ago, but I'm thinking I need to rewatch that series. It would be fine to see what I currently think about it.  :)

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 02, 2012, 05:55:13 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D6hz_hod0c4/TzWObtZcYRI/AAAAAAAABYA/hy54R7Q3Qb0/s1600/elfenlied02kb7.jpg)


Ah... if there's no time to watch a new anime series, there's always time to revisit an episode from an old favorite.

Revisited Episode 2 of Elfen Lied!  8)
And it is every bit as good as I remember (and this even happens to be one of the less memorable episodes).

I just love how it sets the mood- from the sombre, almost Catholic opening theme song, "Lilium", to the entire episode taking place at night in the rain... I feel like I'm watching an opera in animation form when watching this show. Music-wise, Lilium is definitely the main theme being played, but also occurring are some other themes, such as this one Bartok-like string theme when things start getting intense. Also fascinating is watching Nyuu express herself with a one-word vocabulary, and that battle scene on the beach is pretty sweet, too.

This would be incredible as an opera- I could totally imagine Berg doing an opera of this show if he were alive today. Since he's not alive, though, I really would like to write an Elfen Lied opera one day. So for the next best thing, I've turned on Fred Edwards' "Elfen Lied," a brilliant orchestral piece which captures the essence of the show in music and really deserves a recording!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 02, 2012, 06:20:18 PM
Gave up on the mind numbing Ghost Hunt and am currently watching Black Butler.

I know I must be a hopeless weeaboo, when I am considering importing some (Western) movies so that I can watch them with Japanese audio! :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 02, 2012, 07:18:53 PM
I hear Black Butler is great! I've be interested in what you think about that one.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 02, 2012, 08:12:18 PM
I hear Black Butler is great! I'd be interested in what you think about that one.  8)

The premise is interesting (tragic aristocratic boy with demonic guardian servant), but at the start the show is undermined by a lot of unfunny generic comedy from the other servants (plus the boy's fiance). I'm up to ep5 and that seems to have gone away, but I'm dreading its return. The show has also taken a sudden turn into dark, crazy violence, which I didn't see coming (it makes Hellsing look tasteful!). From what I've read, the show continues in this vein. I'll reserve judgement until I see how the story is playing out - at the moment, I can't see any arc narrative.


Re movies I'm interesting in watching in Japanese, here is the short list: Scott Pilgrim vs The World, Aliens, Resident Evil, Sucker Punch, Interview With The Vampire, The Matrix, (Blade: House Of Chthon, possibly). As you can see, they're all basically live-action animes, so I think the cultural translation would work.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 03, 2012, 07:37:07 AM
Re movies I'm interesting in watching in Japanese, here is the short list: Scott Pilgrim vs The World, Aliens, Resident Evil, Sucker Punch, Interview With The Vampire, The Matrix, (Blade: House Of Chthon, possibly). As you can see, they're all basically live-action animes, so I think the cultural translation would work.
For learning purposes or just for fun?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: eyeresist on September 03, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
For learning purposes or just for fun?

My Japanese is pretty poor, so it's just for fun. I guess the inspiration is from when I bought the Japanese issue of the Animatrix a few years ago (to get the real version ;) ). Then more recently I tried to find the Japanese version of Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust (because the US dub is terrible - I don't care if it's the "original" audio) - but that was OOP. Western movies are actually pretty cheap in Japan (compared to anime prices, at least).


(Another I'd like to get is Pitch Black, but that's NA too.)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 03, 2012, 05:58:46 PM
Western movies are actually pretty cheap in Japan (compared to anime prices, at least).
This is definitely an issue with some of them... I'm not sure how this works, but maybe the expensive ones are by the studios that actually pay each animator enough money to live on.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 03, 2012, 06:55:43 PM
Hyouka

Watched episode 1. (I'll eventually watch the whole thing, since it is KyoAni's latest, and the only anime by KyoAni I haven't watched yet).
It's almost like Haruhi, but with a refined and elegant style. The protagonist, who normally isn't into clubs, ends up joining a club. And there are mysteries involved. The Bach soundtrack (typical ones- Air on a G String, 1st Cello Suite) really captures the vibe of the show perfectly.


Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 09, 2012, 06:46:31 PM
Hyouka- episode 2

Wow, I spent 20 minutes actually doing something I wanted to do: watch an episode of this.
Kinda boring, actually. But I was starving for some anime... might end up dropping other stuff for a bit to watch this.

Who did the subtitles? Could you get any looser with the translations?  ???
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 30, 2012, 08:16:44 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/5/38273.jpg)
Hyouka
22 episodes + OVA

Hehe... took me 3 weeks to finish these 22 episodes.
Overall, a pretty good show. It's nothing extraordinary, but the characters are likable and the mysteries enjoyable.

Once the protagonist, Oreki, discovers his gift for solving mysteries at the beginning of the show, it gets going to a few large-scale mysteries that span several episodes. The last several episodes of the show slow down to being mysteries that are solved in a single episode.

There is one episode near the end which is just Oreki and Chitanda sitting in the club room and talking through a mystery from beginning to end. The school principal announces over the intercom, "Anyone that shopped at [store near the school] yesterday, report to the office immediately." Just from that announcement and the fact that the store sells kids' school supplies, they go through the steps to conclude that someone had used a counterfeit 10,000 yen bill at the store and wrote a letter of apology, and that this person had gotten the bill from someone else as payment.


next: Chuunibyo demo Koi ga Shitai. This is currently airing (3 out of 12 episodes so far), so I'll finish it probably in December sometime. Then that will be the end of KyoAni's run for the year. I would like to see another season of Haruhi next year, since there is still quite a bit left to cover that the novels have already covered.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on November 26, 2012, 05:47:28 AM
Starting Serial Experiments: Lain again. It's streaming on Hulu.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CaughtintheGaze on November 26, 2012, 11:17:01 AM
So gorgeous:

http://www.youtube.com/v/l2YyBkYkUIM
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 26, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
Starting Serial Experiments: Lain again. It's streaming on Hulu.
I still watch an episode of that every now and then (only subs, though). The show almost seems inhuman, which is a unique quality I like.


So gorgeous:
Yep. I watched that first episode sometime last year, I think... they had marathons on G3TV years ago, which I watched random episodes of, but I never watched the series from start to finish. Have you?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: CaughtintheGaze on November 26, 2012, 11:50:42 AM
Yep. I watched that first episode sometime last year, I think... they had marathons on G3TV years ago, which I watched random episodes of, but I never watched the series from start to finish. Have you?

Just started it, but its art design is about as good as I've seen. Nearing Escaflowne levels.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: snyprrr on November 26, 2012, 01:59:31 PM
How do you hook up with an anime girl? She's a potential psycho, but, I'm game. btw- I don't think I can 'fake' it: I'm going to need a much more aggressive approach. :( I can't imagine being able to deal with anime talk,... how can I get the subject to kinky sex?? 8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 26, 2012, 08:31:23 PM
How do you hook up with an anime girl? She's a potential psycho, but, I'm game. btw- I don't think I can 'fake' it: I'm going to need a much more aggressive approach. :( I can't imagine being able to deal with anime talk,... how can I get the subject to kinky sex?? 8)
First you have to identify the archetype.

"Potential Psycho" is the Yandere type. They initially start very loving, but their love is so intense that they may end up killing anyone even remotely interested in you. Kind of like the overly attached girlfriend meme.

Tsundere is almost the opposite. Initially, they are cruel to you, but eventually show their loving side.

Moe is another one. Cute, innocent, young type.

What is fascinating is- I saw this on a youtube video- maid cafes which employ young women to behave in these archetypes. One of them was a Tsundere. A guy orders a bag of chips at the counter and the maid/waitress throws them at him. When he eventually leaves, the maid/waitress begs him to stay.

As for the kinky sex part, you'd be better off searching for hentai characters. Anime girls are more into the platonic friendship thing.



Anyways, this one is mine:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TIlqcNHpixs/T5tlq5mJyDI/AAAAAAAACQA/dcxpLWAWfN4/s1600/Episode._1_Revival_of_the_Classics_Club_and_It%2527s_Traditions_Eru_Chitanda.jpg)
Pretty, nice, and rich. Go find your own anime girlfriend.  :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: snyprrr on November 27, 2012, 09:05:48 AM
First you have to identify the archetype.

"Potential Psycho" is the Yandere type. They initially start very loving, but their love is so intense that they may end up killing anyone even remotely interested in you. Kind of like the overly attached girlfriend meme.

Tsundere is almost the opposite. Initially, they are cruel to you, but eventually show their loving side.

Moe is another one. Cute, innocent, young type.

What is fascinating is- I saw this on a youtube video- maid cafes which employ young women to behave in these archetypes. One of them was a Tsundere. A guy orders a bag of chips at the counter and the maid/waitress throws them at him. When he eventually leaves, the maid/waitress begs him to stay.

As for the kinky sex part, you'd be better off searching for hentai characters. Anime girls are more into the platonic friendship thing.



Anyways, this one is mine:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TIlqcNHpixs/T5tlq5mJyDI/AAAAAAAACQA/dcxpLWAWfN4/s1600/Episode._1_Revival_of_the_Classics_Club_and_It%2527s_Traditions_Eru_Chitanda.jpg)
Pretty, nice, and rich. Go find your own anime girlfriend.  :P

Wait... I... mean,... a real... girl. ???

The girl I'm talking about seems to fit the first profile. You would surely be EXPECTING :o psycho behavior here... she'd probably she could beat me up,... yea, I'm not really looking for a challenge here, haha!! ;)

You seem to know TOO MUCH about this Topic!! :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 27, 2012, 09:48:46 AM
Wait... I... mean,... a real... girl. ???

The girl I'm talking about seems to fit the first profile. You would surely be EXPECTING :o psycho behavior here... she'd probably she could beat me up,... yea, I'm not really looking for a challenge here, haha!! ;)

You seem to know TOO MUCH about this Topic!! :P
Real girls? How would I know?  ???

Stay away from psychos, though...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: snyprrr on November 27, 2012, 11:54:29 AM
Real girls? How would I know?  ???

Oy! We're both a mess, haha!! ::) ;D :-*

Maybe we could double date a siamese-twin-piano-duo team? 8) Just sayin :P ;D...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 27, 2012, 06:07:56 PM
Oy! We're both a mess, haha!! ::) ;D :-*

Maybe we could double date a siamese-twin-piano-duo team? 8) Just sayin :P ;D...
Eh...
I'll leave you to that.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 09, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
Chuunibyou finishes airing December 20, so I'm planning on spending a morning (4 hours) watching the whole series shortly after that.

Meanwhile, KyoAni has another series that will start airing in January. The last three anime have spawned no sequels, and I doubt this one will, too. None of them are super popular, either.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 21, 2012, 11:47:44 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/3/40167.jpg)
Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai
12 episodes

Alternate English title: "Regardless of My Adolescent Delusions of Grandeur, I Want a Date!"
Literal translation: "Despite Chuunibyou, (I) want to love."

Chuunibyou is supposedly this phase that 8th graders go through (is this only a Japanese thing?), where they act like some fantasy character and can't interact normally with other people. The main character, Yuuta, goes to a far away high school so no one would remember his Chuunibyou past, but he is sort of dragged back into it by the girl (Rikka) in the above picture. They form a club, called the "Far Eastern Magic Nap Society of Summer," combining their magic club with the naptime club that only has one member.

It is pretty funny for the first half of the show. Near the end, it gets serious, and explains exactly why Rikka keeps acting like some magical person from an RPG world. Then she changes her ways and acts normal, and in the last episode it is all summarized. There are a lot of scenes with awkward romantic attempts to advance and tons of self-consciousness from all of the characters. I hear Japanese culture is somewhat like this, though it would be surprising if it were to this degree.

Overall, definitely worth a watch. Very entertaining.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 23, 2012, 07:53:14 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1/759.jpg)
Tokyo Godfathers
Movie

Synopsis from MAL:
Quote
Three homeless companions -- a runaway girl, a transvestite, and an alcoholic -- find an abandoned newborn on Christmas Eve while foraging through trash. Using clues found next to the baby, they fan out through Tokyo to find the parents, along the way confronting reminders of their own lives they have nearly abandoned.
Good movie, though maybe not exactly something in the realm of what I would really like. Art-wise, it's not exactly anime style. But overall, well done.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 24, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/11/8712.jpg)
Ghost in the Shell
Movie

This is the original movie from 1995. Probably having a headache during the first half of watching the movie really hurt my enjoyment and understanding of it...
I kind of just watched it and wasn't really compelled to form any opinion of it. There wasn't really anything in the movie I liked or disliked. So... umm... idk.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 23, 2013, 08:50:29 PM
Watched the first 2 episodes of Tamako Market. It's a 12-episode series which I'd imagine would finish airing sometime in late March or April. It's KyoAni's latest show; they're quite reliable at making entertaining shows.

The main attraction I'm noticing about the show is this bird character. A talking bird that can project movies out of his eyes.  ??? His "personality" is really something else... whoa!

The overall storyline feels chaotic and aimless with stuff just happening, but that's often how comedy slice-of-life anime are, I guess. Will be looking forward to each new episode that comes out each week!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 19, 2013, 06:15:14 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/6/29774.jpg)
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni- Kira
4 episodes

The newest little OVA spinoff of my favorite anime. This OVA is very much hated.
The first episode is really pervy, and the rest is either dull or mildly entertaining.
Worth seeing the characters again, even if it's just a silly trifle of an OVA.


Oh, and the worst theme song ever.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Octave on March 22, 2013, 11:05:11 PM
[Those who know and love anime please bear with me here; I just thought I'd jot some notes about some impressions and ongoing frustrations with the genre, since I've been belatedly checking out the following 80s classics.]

I just watched GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES (Isao Takahata, 1988).  I was impressed by it overall, though I still haven't warmed up to the conventions of anime yet---I am way-sub-dilettante and haven't even covered all the classics-for-non-initiates yet---but having seen a load of non-animated Japanese cinema about survival and family in wartime and postwar Japanese society, I was still pretty knocked out by this film.  I'm still thinking about it; even things that bugged me while watching it (its special blend of [what initially seemed like] sentimentality and horror, some of the music, some of the plot turns, etc) have slipped better into place now that I've mulled over it.

I've started NEON GENESIS EVANGELION, and a few hours in, I'm not sure I'm going to like it near as much as FIREFLIES.  It's clear it has a lot of substance in its references, but sometimes I think those (philosophical, religious) references have just been frothed on top of the (usual?) groan/bludgeon serial-apocalypse mayhem and adolescent-boy sexuality gawk----floating there like classy foam---with character movement structured as the familiar awkward series of frozen poses, faces made, comedic hiccups, and sliding mise-en-scene.  Some of the themes are essentially and enduringly adolescent, though, in a different sense....based on what George and others have said about the series, it sounds like some of the themes grow and grow, right through the end of the series; and these are things that seem to have a lot to do with adult life, across cultures: adolescent traumas one spends a lifetime recuperating from or reintegrating into an aesthetic/creative life, self-loathing as a source/product/accompaniment/stimulus for art or other productive or creative or critical or aesthetic activity, etc.  Even when the dialogue and action almost seems to operate as a pretty direct extended metaphor about adolescent sexual anxiety [episode ~5, the first 'Rei' episode?  I can't remember....they're trying to mount a sniper attack on the blue polyhedral Angel giant-robot monster, from a distance], I found it kind of honest and fundamental, not laughable.  So maybe it's better than I thought it was when I started this paragraph.   8)   This early in the series, I cannot decide if the creepy sexism is just the creator's id in full bloom, or also an honest, normal, POV depiction of an adolescent (boy's) psyche in flux and squirm, entering a world in crisis one pimply paroxysm at a time.
I still wonder if I can stand another several hours of it.  It's mainly a matter of me having a hard time warming up to the form itself (i.e. anime): I watch Miyazaki and think the guy is a master, and there are experiences to be had there that probably just cannot be had elsewhere on a screen....but the same stylistic conventions bug me there, too, as mentioned above.  I guess there is not much point grousing about it; I tend to be disappointed when I know there's potentially a small continent of pleasures that otherwise might have been had, and *poof* it's unavailable to me. 
I'm still planning on doing some hunting for other interesting anime to check out; I promise I won't report/complain on everything I see.   :-X

I should say that some of the comments I've read (some of which by George in this thread, iirc) do strike me as perfectly honest responses to the NGE series, and in addition to being what got me interested in it, I think I see what they are talking about.  One thing I will probably change is how quickly I watch the series; maybe better to watch a couple-few episodes a week.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Octave on March 22, 2013, 11:32:01 PM
And maybe I should just skip to NGE's "stargate" sequence:
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The radically different and experimental style of the final two episodes confused or alienated many fans and spawned debate and analysis, both scholarly and informal, and accusations of meaninglessness; even mainstream publications like the Mainichi Times would remark that "When Episode 25 first aired the following week, nearly all viewers felt betrayed… [....]
In response to the backlash by fans against the nature of the series finale, Anno made several controversial comments in the months following the series conclusion, and preceding the release of The End of Evangelion. Anno commented in various interviews after the conclusion of the series that "anime fans need to have more self-respect" and to "come back to reality"; in a Newtype interview on 10 May, after the announcement on 26 April of a new movie and re-edited versions of the TV series, he also stated that "computer networking is graffiti on toilet walls."  These statements were even more controversial.
(from the Wikipedia article...I have yet track down the inflammatory Anno interview quoted above, but now I am even more interested in the guy...what a punk!)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on March 23, 2013, 03:17:39 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/11/8712.jpg)
Ghost in the Shell
Movie

This is the original movie from 1995. Probably having a headache during the first half of watching the movie really hurt my enjoyment and understanding of it...
I kind of just watched it and wasn't really compelled to form any opinion of it. There wasn't really anything in the movie I liked or disliked. So... umm... idk.

Have you seen the sequel, Innocence? It's very good, but then again I'm bias towards the entire GITS universe and loved the first film and enjoy the series. But, Innocence gets a little more involved than the original, more of the entire "Ghost" concept is explored and includes some great action sequences and beautiful images.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 23, 2013, 06:26:45 AM
I've started NEON GENESIS EVANGELION, and a few hours in, I'm not sure I'm going to like it near as much as FIREFLIES. 
And maybe I should just skip to NGE's "stargate" sequence
Ha... the main part of the series, I think, are the last several episodes, which are quite infamous. You'll probably either love them or think they are garbage.  :D

Nice to read your thoughts about NGE. I've seen forums dedicated to figuring the show out. I spent a couple days thinking about it at one point, though probably won't pursue it any more.



Have you seen the sequel, Innocence? It's very good, but then again I'm bias towards the entire GITS universe and loved the first film and enjoy the series. But, Innocence gets a little more involved than the original, more of the entire "Ghost" concept is explored and includes some great action sequences and beautiful images.
Weird answer, but: I'm not sure. I remember my dad bringing home a Ghost in the Shell movie one day in 2007 and I watched it, but I can't remember which one it is. Probably was Innocence.  :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 08, 2013, 06:13:02 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/4/44548.jpg)
Tamako Market
12 episodes

What a bore. Not recommended.
There are a few interesting things about the show. The main thing is the over-the-top character, Dera, that I mentioned earlier. The second thing is the bartender who puts on music records and is always melancholy and says really contemplative stuff. The third is the fact that they included a transgender character (florist that is a man as a woman)  ???.

Besides that, the show is just way too normal- so much that it's just not interesting, other than the things mentioned above.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Henk on May 08, 2013, 06:46:00 AM
Hey Greg, You recommended some years ago a Anime movie to me. You said it was a masterpiece. Do you remind which movie? I would like to watch it, but can't retrack it's title.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 08, 2013, 12:13:54 PM
Oh, wow, let's see if I can remember that far... nah, I can't.  :P

But seriously, if I did recommend a movie, it was probably Paprika (sort of like Inception a few years before Inception came out).
It was more likely a series, though. It was probably either Elfen Lied, Serial Experiments Lain, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, Kino's Journey, Welcome to the NHK, or Monster.

Elfen Lied is something everyone should watch, though I'm not sure you'd be into it. Very violent and full of nudity, though not in a sleazy way. The ultimate cathartic experience. Profoundly haunting and moving.

Serial Experiments Lain is something I'd imagine you would like. Quite avant-garde and lacking emotion- very cerebral.

Kino's Journey is about a traveler who travels the world and visits each place for only three days at a time, learning about various odd cultures and retaining an objective attitude towards it all, despite the ludicrous stuff she encounters. Also very cerebral.

Welcome to the NHK- cathartic, but not violent. It's about a hikikomori (shut-in) who tries to reverse his situation.

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni- my favorite show, along with Elfen Lied. Requires patience, but is ultimately rewarding and mindbending.

Monster a very long (74 episode) show about a doctor who goes on a manhunt to find the patient he saved as a kid who turned out to be a serial killer.



Not sure if any of these are the one, but it's my best guess!  ;D
also... as a general rule, always watch the subbed version with the exception of Studio Ghibli/Hayao Miyazaki movies. Good English voice actors in anime are scarce.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Henk on May 08, 2013, 01:15:52 PM
It was none of the one you mentioned. You said it was a masterpiece, I think you gave it 10 points. Something with Paradise in the title, you recommended it on Facebook to me, but I can't find it back.

BTW I have gotten all albums by BTBM from Colors on. I like that stuff a lot. Also just downloaded Satriani's record Unstoppable Momentum, sounds great, I like him better than Vai
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 08, 2013, 02:59:44 PM
It was none of the one you mentioned. You said it was a masterpiece, I think you gave it 10 points. Something with Paradise in the title, you recommended it on Facebook to me, but I can't find it back.
Hmm... I will take a minute and try to find out what this one is...


BTW I have gotten all albums by BTBM from Colors on. I like that stuff a lot. Also just downloaded Satriani's record Unstoppable Momentum, sounds great, I like him better than Vai
Awesome! This is good to hear.  :)
Glad you like BTBAM. As for the new Satriani album, I ordered the CD because I liked the album so much, and now I just got it and am re-listening. I've also have always liked him better than Vai, for some reason.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 08, 2013, 03:21:37 PM
Honestly, I can't think of any favorite of mine with "Paradise" in the title.

But...

From an old post:

I've been wanting to redo my top 10 list... now, here it is, currently- Greg's official top 10 anime:  :D
(the names take the series as a whole, meaning all seasons and sequels)

1. Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni
2. Elfen Lied
3. Clannad
4. Monster
5. Gantz
6. Death Note
7. Welcome to the NHK
8. Full Metal Panic
9. Now and Then, Here and There
10. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

and if it went to 12...
(11). Cowboy Bebop
(12). Baccano!

A few more I rated highly:
Paranoia Agent, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Code Geass, Eve no Jikan, Higashi no Eden

At a certain point, I stopped using number ratings.

All anime with "Paradise" in the title:
http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?q=paradise

If you don't see it, sorry, man... that's about all I got.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 16, 2013, 05:43:56 AM
Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan) is the new hit anime, it seems.
It's already ranked #8 on MAL, with only 11 out of 25 episodes aired so far. People seem to be at a loss for words when it comes to this show.

Quote
Several hundred years ago, humans were nearly exterminated by titans. Titans are typically several stories tall, seem to have no intelligence, devour human beings and, worst of all, seem to do it for the pleasure rather than as a food source. A small percentage of humanity survived by walling themselves in a city protected by extremely high walls, even taller than the biggest of titans.

Flash forward to the present and the city has not seen a titan in over 100 years. Teenage boy Eren and his foster sister Mikasa witness something horrific as the city walls are destroyed by a colossal titan that appears out of thin air. As the smaller titans flood the city, the two kids watch in horror as their mother is eaten alive. Eren vows that he will murder every single titan and take revenge for all of mankind.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/16498/Shingeki_no_Kyojin




Hmm...
so my must-watch list has expanded to:
-Legend of the Galactic Heroes
-Shingeki no Kyojin
-anything I haven't watched by KyoAni (Munto, the currently airing series Kyoukai no Kanata and Free!, and Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions II, which should air later this year).

Looking forward to Chunibyo II, since I enjoyed the original, but Free! looks like it will be a nightmare to watch. It's like a moe, or fan service show for girls, so it's just a bunch of swimmer guys goofing off. I heard it was only 12 episodes. I sincerely hope so.  :-X
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on August 07, 2013, 03:58:33 AM
I'm also currently reading/watching shingeki no kyojin. My favorite character is Jean Kirschtein, I really love his character development. Close second would be Levi.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 07, 2013, 07:02:17 AM
I ended up watching the first episode of it. Looks very promising... I see that 17 out of 25 episodes have been aired, so looks like it isn't too far off from the end. Can't wait to watch it all.  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on August 07, 2013, 09:41:05 AM
I'm watching Neon Genesis Evangelion.  I had tried it before, but quit after a few episodes.  This time I gave myself a few more episodes and then I got hooked.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 07, 2013, 10:50:20 AM
I'm watching Neon Genesis Evangelion.  I had tried it before, but quit after a few episodes.  This time I gave myself a few more episodes and then I got hooked.
Ha, I'll be interested in what you think about the infamous final episodes.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 16, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/9/35721.jpg)
Ookami no Kodomo no Ame to Yuki
Wolf Children

Movie
1 hr. 57 min.


I only watched this because of the extremely high ratings. It's about the childhood of two kids who were born as half-human, half-werewolf and can switch forms between both, often accidentally. The beginning of the movie details the mom and the dad, then the dad's death, and then the mom's adjustment and raising of her kids; it's sort of like a timeline of important events up until the kids are 10, at the end of the movie.

I can understand the high ratings; extremely well done. Personally, I just don't like this type of movie. Despite the wolf kids aspect, it felt too real and I don't watch anime to experience reality; I watch it to escape from it, even if it's some sort of really messed up reality.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on August 16, 2013, 05:25:24 PM
Ha, I'll be interested in what you think about the infamous final episodes.  ;D

I finished it.  While it's good to see closure on Shinji's arc, what about you know everyone and everything else?  And did the budget go down the toilet?  I haven't seen such bad animation since the extended cut of Mass Effect 3 (which showed stills).  I must watch The End of Evangelion.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 16, 2013, 06:28:47 PM
And did the budget go down the toilet?
Exactly.  ;D

But the negativity and pessimism is delicious! Viva el Schopenhauer!  ;)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 17, 2013, 10:56:21 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/2/24549.jpg)
Munto

Munto has two versions which are exactly the same thing: the 2 OVAs & final movie or the anime series, titled "Sora wo Miageru Shoujo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai" (The World Reflected in the Eyes of a Girl Looking Up at the Heavens), which is 9 episodes. I watched the former.

The plot involves a girl having visions of Munto (the king of the heavens) begging her to help save their worlds. The energy of the heavens runs on Akuto, which is the power of human desire. There are some fantastic moments in this show.

Definitely worth a watch and much better than I thought it would be. The huge problem that is holding it back from being a definitive masterpiece is that it's just too short. 3 hours just isn't enough time for something like this. It should have been a 24 episode series. It doesn't seem "smoothed out" enough, but basically crammed together. I would say a 24 episode version of this would have been one of my favorite shows.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on August 24, 2013, 05:30:24 AM
The End of Evangelion was awesome, excepting one scene that was disturbing, out of character and inappropriate.  It answered the questions, resolved the major plot threads, and didn't contradict the two episodes that it was replacing.  But there are things I don't know:

1. Why didn't Asuka dissolve like everyone else?

2. Why was Shinji choking her at the end?

3. Were the evangelions that created the anti-AT field piloted by more clones of Rei?  And is that why the faces of Rei emerged as she became fully herself?

4. Is Rei Lilith?  Or is she a clone of Shinji's Mother?  The show seems to imply both but that doesn't make sense.

5. What did Ikari say to Ritsuko right before he killed her?

6. It seemed as if Shinji rejected unity of human souls to restore the world as it was (with individuality)... but at the end everyone is still dead and he seems to emerge out of the primordial ooze to kill Asuka.  Did he actually choose an apocalyptic fate, and he and unit 01 are the only remnants of humanity?

7. Throughout most of the show Shinji is asexual, showing no attraction to anybody.  But then he falls in love with the last angel, suggesting that he is gay.  But then in the movie, the questionable hospital scene establishes that he is straight (and yes that is the scene that bothered me).  So is he asexual, gay, straight or bi?

8. Did Ikari share the same plan or did he have a different agenda?  He seemed to be preoccupied with seeing his dead wife again, but he started the whole operation before she passed away, so that must be a secondary motive on his part, did he want to see third impact? or was he trying to subvert Seele to fulfill something different?

If you remember the show at all Greg, I would appreciate your thoughts on that crazy ending!

I think next up is rewatch of Ghost in the Shell and watch Stand Alone Complex.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 24, 2013, 05:45:21 AM
I don't really remember much of the show, honestly... I would go back and view the ending on youtube a couple times, though. As for the strangling... must be a love-hate relationship. I think the show tries intentionally to not be so obvious to figure out.  :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: DavidW on August 24, 2013, 08:30:27 AM
It had been too long huh?  That's okay I understand. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 06, 2013, 05:51:03 PM
Got episode 15 out of 25 on Sword Art Online.

Episode 14 made me think even more that there must be something seriously psychologically wrong with modern Japanese. It's in the same mold as some of my favorite shows, which means that it seems like the entire point of the show is to throw you into some traumatic, yet cathartic experience. Do young Japanese males just walk around, suicidal most of the time and end up writing manga/anime like this?  ;D

Whatever happened to Japanese stoicism? Based on my limited experience with Japanese literature and films (mainly Kurosawa), "shikata ga nai" ("It can't be helped") is a strong element of the Japanese psyche, yet with many modern anime dramas, there are so many heartbreaking deaths, screaming, desperate crying, etc. which is the complete opposite. This stuff can't be healthy to watch to much of, as much as I love it. "Really is terror, this truth is absolute."

More details, though, when I finish this thing...



Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 07, 2013, 09:33:51 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/11/39717.jpg)

Sword Art Online
25 episodes

Finished watching the rest of this today. Perfect example of a show with unfulfilled potential.

The show is essentially divided into two parts: Part 1 (episodes 1-14) and Part 2 (15-25). Part one, I thought, was very impressive. Part two was just a terrible borefest.

The plot is essentially that a new game, called Sword Art Online is released. People use something called Nerve Gear to play it, which simulates full virtual reality immersion. However, on the first day, the log out function is cancelled and the creator of the game set it up to where if you die in the game, you die in real life because the equipment will send fatal electronic signals into your brain. The only way to return to real life is to complete the 100 level tower alive.

The psychology of actually going through such an experience, which takes place over two years in the virtual game world, is explored enough through character interactions and such. The main buildup of the first part, mentioned in my previous post, was (spoiler) through the marriage of the main character. There are a few episodes which portray a sort of perfect bliss between Kirito and Asuna, but episode 14 ends with her tragic death and his barely defeating the game creator and walking out of his hospital bed in real life. Now, those episodes (~10-14) are AWESOME. (end spoiler)

In the second part, we find out no one really died! Well, well, well... now that the whole power of the show has been completely undermined, it turns into a "rescue the princess," or in other words, rescue Asuna story, from some nasty, creepy dude. Now they are playing a completely different game, one where you don't die in real life if you die in the game. Just meandering here, nothing good to see. Dumb happy ending.

The way to make the show great would have been to keep the 25 episode length, but to end it on the events of episode 14. He survives, she dies. More development in the story and characters as well. It would have been a truly great tale of loss.

I ended up watching this in the first place because it was not only the most hyped anime of last year, but someone in my class recommended it and said it was probably his favorite show. The opinions on this show are supposedly some of the most divided for any anime.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 23, 2013, 06:03:49 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/6/51107.jpg)
Free!
12 episodes

The only reason I watched this is to keep up with all of KyoAni's completed shows.

This is just a show for girls to look at guys, and it has become infamous for this, since shows like K-On! (also by KyoAni) were shows for guys to look at girls. It's like a version of K-On! for girls. They get to look at muscular guy swimmers taking their shirts off throughout the show. Needless to say, plenty of homoerotic undertones, as was the same with K-On!. I did like K-On!, but only because of the girls. Terribly shallow show, just like this one. Plus, I don't like swimming.

The plot is about some high school guys trying to rebuild their swimming club and swim competitively. There are actually a few dramatic moments (unlike K-On!), but none of them were particularly interesting. Overall, a pretty dull show unless you are a girl or like swimming.



Now just Shingeki no Kyojin and Legend of the Galactic Heroes to knock off my list...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 27, 2013, 08:15:22 PM
Watching Attack on Titan, currently on episode 8 out of 25...

quick thought: who wrote this show, GOD!??? How else could it be so perfect?  ???
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 28, 2013, 11:18:30 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/10/47347.jpg)
Attack on Titan
25 episodes

Well, looks like there is going to have to be a second season eventually, though no more than that, since the manga is still ongoing but will be done in 20 volumes.

What can I say about this show? It simply must be experienced. Brutal stuff, yet extremely intriguing. There are virtually no "flaws" or complaints about this show I can think of, and everything about it is just done so well. The mystery of the Titans and what they are exactly is something that I will be looking forward to. Probably the best anime I've watched this year.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 28, 2013, 11:56:39 AM
Last on my list of must watches... the great Legend of the Galactic Heroes, which I've been meaning to watch for the last 2 or 3 years.

Seriously considering only watching one episode of that per day, and having it be the first thing I do when I wake up. Considering that it is 110 episodes, that means it will take nearly 4 months!  :o

A long space opera with Mahler as its general soundtrack and extremely high ratings for the few who have watched it... I have high expectations!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 30, 2013, 06:37:33 PM
I just took a "Which Anime character are You?" test, and it said I was Rin Okumura from Blue Exorcist. Never watched the show, but supposedly he is the son of Satan and a human woman and has Satan's powers.

 >:D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 02, 2013, 04:59:46 AM
The Legend of the Galactic Heroes soundtrack (for the first 20 episodes):

http://www.yumei.com/gin/series-1.html

Quote
The 1st Series uses many of Mahler's symphonies. The music editor probably likes Mahler very much. Perhaps too much?
No such thing as too much.  ;D

I'm going to hear the Mahler 9th and Bruckner 7th used in this show... nice.  :o
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 15, 2013, 05:02:26 PM
Ugh... I watched the first 6 or 7 episodes and honestly I must find the show really boring or something because I can't make myself keep watching. It's supposed to develop into something even greater, but... whatever. I don't have to watch it.  :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on December 14, 2013, 04:51:47 PM
Watched the first episode of Attack on Titan available on CrunchyRoll. I need to know, is the rest of the show as good as the opening episode? I was really impressed with what I saw. Very emotional.


(http://stwww.geekexchange.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/attack-on-titan.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 14, 2013, 05:08:39 PM
Watched the first episode of Attack on Titan available on CrunchyRoll. I need to know, is the rest of the show as good as the opening episode? I was really impressed with what I saw. Very emotional.


(http://stwww.geekexchange.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/attack-on-titan.jpg)
I would say about 3/4 of it is as good as the first episode, some of it better. Never a dull moment, regardless.

I think the most powerful psychological aspect of this show is that sense of vulnerability and helplessness that the people faced. I hope you watch the rest of it, riveting stuff.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on December 14, 2013, 05:16:32 PM
I would say about 3/4 of it is as good as the first episode, some of it better. Never a dull moment, regardless.

I think the most powerful psychological aspect of this show is that sense of vulnerability and helplessness that the people faced. I hope you watch the rest of it, riveting stuff.

Thanks for the response, Greg. The concept of this show is fascinating, I'll be sticking with it for sure.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 04, 2014, 09:53:15 AM
Well, looks like a return to learning Japanese means a return to anime, and I already notice plenty of progress in just a few days.  8)

Something I never thought about but just now am realizing will be important to me is this list feature on myanimelist.net. You can keep track of every anime you've ever watched (or dropped, or are currently watching). I still have a profile on the site but am just now adding all of them. If people click your name and then "anime list" it goes directly to your "Completed" list.

I have 33 off the top of my head, wondering if by the time I go throught this thread, I'll get to 100...
(but in the future I'll somewhat be limiting myself mainly to anime with japanese subtitle scripts online)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 04, 2014, 10:56:28 AM
Here's my list:

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/ibanezmonster

121 so far.

(honestly don't remember what I thought of many of them, especially each movie of Kara no Kyoukai... also, I could probably easily add 20 more if I included the special episodes or extras that I don't remember if I've even watched or not).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 05, 2014, 10:10:33 AM
Rewatch, rereview: Angel Beats!

The plot is about a group of high school-aged students who find themselves in a sort of purgatory or limbo (not actually named, but I'd refer to it as a purgatory). This place, where the entire show takes place, is in a high school where there are also NPCs (people who act normal but don't have a soul and sort of act out the normal daily routines of the school).

All of these people lived quite sad lives that were cut short before they could live out their dreams. The purpose of this purgatory was to fulfill their desires in this purgatory so that their soul could be in peace, and then they disappear (or truly die). Their aim while they are there is to rebel against "God" for having an unfair life (the "God" of the purgatory being assumed by a couple different people in the show, seems to me to be whoever is trying to make everyone disappear, but maybe I'm just still confused about that).

Although there is the backdrop of the location being a purgatory and going through the terrible life stories of the character, there is quite a lot of comedy and action. So much that at times it seems like the show is losing focus on its overall tone, but I suppose that might be more realistic, since really people might actually act that way if in a purgatory for long enough.

If you look at the plot, you can guess how it ends. Quite the opposite from a typical Hollywood movie ending, and that's what makes it fulfilling to watch. Whether it's a tragedy or not I guess can depend on how one views things. I wonder how much this is based on Buddhist philosophy, because, although they say "there is no God or Buddha," they seem to suggest uncertainty about whether reincarnation is true, and at the end, say stuff suggesting that they look forward to the next life.

I think this might actually be the best anime for a newbie to anime to watch, especially considering it is only 13 episodes. Just be prepared, though for some extremely upsetting and sad moments.

next: Deadman Wonderland
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 06, 2014, 05:51:09 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/8/3912.jpg)
Kakurenbo
1 episode (25 minute OVA)

It's about a group of kids who play a dangerous game of hide and go seek in another town. Most of it I found not so great, but the end had me smiling at how deliciously evil it was.

you can watch the whole thing here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqQKGdAsOYM
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 11, 2014, 10:17:25 AM
Here's my list:

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/ibanezmonster

121 so far.
Make that 179 after a few days of adding stuff that I forgot I watched and after watching a bunch of specials, movies, etc. I could add another 5 or so but either don't remember the titles or don't remember if I've watched them. So, next is resuming Deadman Wonderland, finishing Durarara!! (which I had dropped a few years ago) and watching Usagi Drop.

I just finished watching Claymore, a show I watched 21/26 episodes of and dropped a few years ago. I remember some of the characters, but the storyline was something I couldn't remember much of. It's not a bad show, but it just really bored me. The odd thing is that it's probably the only show where I found it to be the exact opposite for me in every aspect of what reviewers of the show say of it.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 13, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/12/29882.jpg)
Deadman Wonderland
12 episodes + OVA

A kid (Ganta) is falsely accused of murdering his entire class and is sentenced to death in prison. The prison, Deadman Wonderland, is Japan's only privately owned prison. Part of it is a theme park which televises prison inmates taking part in games for points to buy things such as food; often, inmates are violently massacred during these games, while the public thinks that they are just special effects. The more important games involve "Deadmen" fighting each other (these people have the power to shape their own blood into weapons, and Ganta finds out that he is one of them). The loser of Deadman fights plays a punishment game where a random body part is removed.

Ganta meets Shiro, an albino girl who is his childhood friend who helps him during tough situtations and later joins a group that tries to break out of prison. This part of the story is left incomplete as the anime was cancelled, while the manga picks up where it left off.

If you like shows like Elfen Lied, Mirai Nikki, Gantz, or Now and Then Here and There, this is definitely worth a watch. Just be aware that, in a similar manner as Gantz (other than the fact that this manga is actually finished), the ending is unsatisfactory and incomplete.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 19, 2014, 12:14:50 PM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/8/20631.jpg)
Durarara!!
24 episodes + 2 Special episodes

Finished the only other anime I ever dropped (LOGH doesn't count, I only watched a few episodes) :P. 2 or so years later... done.

It's really a great show, it's just that it suffers from the problem of not exactly hooking you into a tight plot. Every episode there are crazy, interesting things that happen but they didn't exactly keep me moving forward in the show. Baccano! was made by the same producer, so it has a similar style (although that show is more straightforward in its storyline). Crazy characters and interesting subplots involving street gangs are what this show is about. Headless motorcycle rider, 7-foot tall black Russian sushi chef pacifist who is really strong, a guy with superhuman powers, etc... And the background music... it's a variety of styles, mainly avant-garde jazzy stuff which I would consider possibly the best background music I've heard in an anime. (Cowboy Bebop is another show that vaguely reminds me of this).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on April 03, 2014, 08:02:40 AM
After doing a quick search I didn't find actual topic for manga so can you discuss it here? Because last One Piece chapter just blew my mind!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 03, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
After doing a quick search I didn't find actual topic for manga so can you discuss it here? Because last One Piece chapter just blew my mind!
Sure.

One Piece is one of those series that are just too long to get into for me... I had abandoned Naruto: Shippuden for that very reason years ago.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on April 04, 2014, 05:15:02 AM
Sure.

One Piece is one of those series that are just too long to get into for me... I had abandoned Naruto: Shippuden for that very reason years ago.

Haha, yeah and it doesn't help that in anime there are countless fillers, most of which are mediocre at best. It's not perfect manga, it has many flaws such as with some villains seiyu explains in words of one syllable how mean, vicious and horrible they are. Thankfully not all such as Arlong, Blackbeard, Doflamingo and Magellan are like this and some such as Buggy and Crocodile have become slightly nicer and in the case of latter it is heavily implied he has a sympathetic backstory not yet revealed. However the manga has also several good qualities.

Ok, but in case anyone is interested, current story arc's main villain Doflamingo just got one head shorter when Kyros decapitated him. There are several options what will happen next such as:

a) That was just puppet that he controls from the shadows with the power of his ito ito no mi (string string fruit).
b) Trafalgar law used his devil fruit ability to save doflamingo from some unknown reason (or alternately Doflamingo possibly can control other people's DF abilities).
c) Doflamingo's devil fruit is actually a Logia (so he is literally made of string).
d) He's just gonna sew his head back together.
e) He really just kicked the bucket (I think this one is extremely unlikely).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 07, 2014, 06:32:18 PM
I watched this at my friend's house today:

http://www.youtube.com/v/6m9CcnL9FEk

It's a 30 minute anime called "Cat Soup." Basically a surrealist film that is hard to describe. It's brilliant, though.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 10, 2014, 06:34:44 AM
(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/3/28014.jpg)
Usagi Drop
11 episodes

Well, this story is about a 30 year old man who adopts a six year old child... who is his aunt.
That is probably the most amusing part about this show. I only watched it because it was short and rated very highly, but it's just not my type of show. Slice of life and about the mundane experiences of raising a kid. Meh. Seems like there would be more of a point to the show; perhaps aimed at an audience which likely won't have children, anyways.



Next:
oh, boy... I won't say.  :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 11, 2014, 06:13:04 AM
I knew someone besides me would make the connection between Digimon Tamers and Neon Genesis Evangelion!

http://myanimelist.net/anime/874/Digimon_Tamers


Quote
Well the psychological themes are very similiar. Also, the final enemies in Digimon Tamers, the D-Reapers are VERY-VERY similiar to Angels in Evangelion. The last D-Reaper even has a mask like Lilith did and it's face evolved to a human's one just like Lilith's .. While Digimon Tamers isn't that sad, psychological and fucked up and is targeted more at kids than Evangelion then it's still clearly influenced by it. Also, in both series there is a company that is related to the D-Reapers/Angels. And some of the digimons in this series are based off the Evangelion mechas. (one of them even had that big wire thing coming out of it's back)

What I loved about the last several episodes of the series is that it became something very dark and basically ceased to be a kid's show. I mean, violence is common in kid's shows, sure, but the overwhelming sense of doom and despair just isn't. I don't think I appreciated it as much as I should when I was ~13 years old, though.  :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on May 11, 2014, 06:35:30 AM
Tamers has always been my favorite season of them all. And I never noticed the similarities between Evangelion until now (not that I knew that much about neon genesis to begin with).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 24, 2014, 07:15:36 PM
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Kaiba
12 episodes

A genuine work of art. The art is in the style of Osamu Tezuka and involves a very intricate and captivating plot. The world in which the story takes place is a very odd one visually and functionally, and it involves the fact that memories and bodies can be, and are separated, so much conflict takes place over the securing of memories and people (such as the main character) who have bodies but are trying to find memories that they have lost.

The soundtrack is somewhat minimalistic, austere, and involving some quirky timbres.... there's a tune that keeps playing that sounds almost exactly like the melody from Yngwie Malmsteen's "Disciples of Hell," except think of those notes played with weird, simple synth effects.

Highly recommended, especially to newbies of anime.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 24, 2014, 07:26:40 PM
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To Love-Ru
26 episodes + 4 OVAs

Pure trash. I enjoyed it immensely.
See, I can have bad taste, too, but at least I realize it and know the difference between great art and garbage!  :P

Anyway, it is an ecchi about an alien named Lala (the pink-haired girl) who shows up naked in the main character's bathtub. She wants to marry him, which means that he will be the ruler of the universe, but he interested in Sairenji instead (the blue-haired girl). Every time he tries to ask her out, something incredibly unlikely will happen to interrupt.

It is just so out there and bizarre and sometimes constant fan service can ruin a show (Nisemonogatari is an example, me agreeing with almost everyone on this), this is an ecchi, so it's to be expected. The main character is a very gentle-natured kid that is very respectful toward women but constantly ends up falling on them in strange ways due to his clumsiness and they always get embarrassed and call him a pervert. And somehow, several of the girl characters are secretly interested in him for no apparent reason.

Such trashy entertainment, but entertaining enough for me to want to watch the sequels.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 27, 2014, 07:35:06 PM
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Motto To Love-Ru
12 episodes

They took the comedy up a notch with this one. One of the funniest scenes has to be the one where they're trying to catch this guy who is stalking Sairenji at night while she's walking her dog. They catch him and this guy says, "Actually, I'm after him," pointing at the dog. Then the guy takes off his large trenchcoat and it turns out to be a giant female bulldog.  :P

At the end, he gets to confess to all of the girls except Sairenji (the single most important thing to happen in the show). But, as Lala said, if he marries her, he'll be king of the universe so Earth's rules won't apply and he can have as many wives as he wants. She's fine with it and knows Sairenji likes him and would be happy for them to all be together.

Can't wait to watch To Love-Ru Darkness now...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 01, 2014, 06:17:54 AM
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To Love-Ru Darkness
12 episodes + 4 OVAs

The last season of the series so far, and hopefully it will be expanded upon.
This season takes the show into some slightly more dramatic moments but never loses the silly jokes and crazy antics from the original season (and some of the most abundant ecchi/fan service in any show of the genre). Momo develops her harem plan for Yuuki Rito by trying to add more girls, but nothing is really concluded.

The girls are enough reason to watch the show itself, but the jokes never get old for me, which is why it was still so entertaining. Imagine the awkwardness of switching bodies with the opposite gender who happens to be your crush or being stuck holding hands with someone for an entire day and all of the awkward situations that would accompany that. And yes, it's natural for everyone to wonder why Yuuki Rito doesn't jump on that plan of becoming King of the Universe and having over 10 concubines instantly- answer: it's to keep the plot/entire show going. And did I mention how much I liked the girls in this show? Well, A LOT.  8)


now watching: Watamote  >:D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 02, 2014, 11:21:04 AM
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Watamote: Watashi ga Motenai no wa Dou Kangaetemo Omaera ga Warui
12 episodes + 1 OVA that airs in October

A single word to describe this show: uncomfortable.

This show has no development but simply shows the daily high school life of Tomoko, an unattractive and extremely socially awkward girl with no friends. It's all black humor- bad stuff happens to her constantly, and while it can be very funny, ultimately watching several episodes at once can make you feel quite sick. It's an odd feeling watching a show about nothing but one person being constantly being embarrassed and letdown, with no one to support her and lift her up in any way.

The sense of isolation and Tomoko vs. the world mentality is portrayed by the lack of actual faces in the background characters much of the time. It's as if she views everywhere equally and "not her." Also, there is no resolution in the story. I'm not sure how the manga develops, but I admire whoever decided to make the story to decide that things never get better for her at all; it's brutally honest and a nice change from the typical happy ending. Apparently she just stays miserable and socially awkward forever?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 02, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
bump for Watamote edit

edit: a week later, still thinking about this show. I know you can compare this to Welcome to the NHK, but still, it's not quite the same. It's uniquely depressing, but in a good way. Even if a show can make you feel so terrible watching it, that's something to at least admire.

That scene where she goes out shopping by herself and buys this Boy's Love game and wins a random prize at a fair that turns out to be a vibrator... then at night, she plays the game and doesn't use the vibrator in the way you'd think (just rubbing it on her face), then suddenly falls asleep. Her dad opens the door to see her asleep with a vibrator next to her a screen with some guy saying something ecstatically like "I don't know how much more I can take..." her dad just sighs and puts her in her bed. Stuff like that...  ???
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 10, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
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Space☆Dandy
13 episodes

A show about a alien hunter, Space Dandy, whose job is to find undiscovered aliens and take them in for registration. Space Dandy is kinda like a Johnny Bravo-type personality, and I'd actually recommend watching the show English dubbing because of his voice actor (but then again, QT the robot's autotune voice could annoy some people).

It's a non-linear story and each episode is completely different from the next. There's a zombie episode, a home planet time loop episode, a race episode... it's all good fun.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 14, 2014, 08:31:49 PM
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Kyoukai no Kanata
12 episodes

Pretty boring. Not recommended. Kyoani may be starting a disturbing trend lately of making boring shows... starting with Tamako Market. This one contains the same boringness, but with a supernatural element.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 14, 2014, 08:32:13 PM
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Nekomonogatari: Kuro
4 episodes

Sequel of Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari.
Pretty good. Not much to say about it.



Milestone reached- 200 anime entries in my completed list:
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/ibanezmonster
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 03, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
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Another
12 episodes + 1 OVA

This show actually creeped me out, and I can't recall any other show or movie ever creeping me out, so I guess I have to give it credit for that.

It's about a high school class that has had a curse for years, where a student (or a relative of a student) dies each month. What I like about this show is that, despite it being in the horror genre, you never see any silly monsters or possessed people that make you laugh (for example, the girl in The Exorcist), but it's creepiness relies mainly in the storytelling and the foreboding sense that someone else will die soon. There is some atmosphere used which accentuates this, yet it's never so much that it feels like the show is trying too hard. Very good overall- will make you think and creep and you out at the same time.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 04, 2014, 05:47:15 PM
Watched the sequel to Chuunibyou a few weeks ago... not much to say about that other than I think all the people who put down the sequel probably expected too much. It's just a show you watch for enjoyment and shouldn't take seriously at all.


What I'm really excited about is the announcement a few days ago of a new season of Digimon, with the original characters as the protagonists!  ???

The sixth season (Xros Wars) which came out a few years ago is the only season I haven't watched... I felt after season 3, the next two seasons declined in quality more and more.

Season 7, with the original cast. This will be one incredible resurrection!  8)


Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/v/rVnqtcBcsPo
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 07, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
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Monogatari Series: Second Season
26 episodes


The sequel to Bakemonogatari->Nisemonogatari->Nekomonogatari: Kuro, this show follows the same stylistic qualities that defined the show without being drowned in fan service (like Nisemonogatari), and as a result has been highly acclaimed (it's ranked #17 on MAL, much higher than the others).

It's divided into several story arcs and and includes some recap episodes. The best arc was probably the very last one. It involves two highly calculating characters scheming and trying to deceive someone. If you can follow everything, it can get interesting.

The trademark art style and endless dialogue is back. It's funny how places look in this show- huge, expansive spaces that are always empty except for the two characters (and I'm talking about an entire airport).

I wouldn't say that it's quite my style of show, though I respect it for what it's trying to do: be original in several aspects, and at the same time it pulls it off intelligently.

A few scenery shots to show of the modernist style. Notice the pure white with solid red pipes or ladders that stand out:
(https://rabujoi.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/koimo1.jpg?w=604)
(http://shindeiie.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/nisemonogatari1111.jpg)
(http://files.rubenerd.com/uploads/anime.bakemonogatari.03.02.jpg)
(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130812072248/bakemonogatari1645/images/c/ce/Chat_with_the_fire_sisters.png)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: jimkita on August 08, 2014, 02:47:11 AM
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To Love-Ru Darkness
12 episodes + 4 OVAs

The last season of the series so far, and hopefully it will be expanded upon.
This season takes the show into some slightly more dramatic moments but never loses the silly jokes and crazy antics from the original season (and some of the most abundant ecchi/fan service in any show of the genre). Momo develops her harem plan for Yuuki Rito by trying to add more girls, but nothing is really concluded.

The girls are enough reason to watch the show itself, but the jokes never get old for me, which is why it was still so entertaining. Imagine the awkwardness of switching bodies with the opposite gender who happens to be your crush or being stuck holding hands with someone for an entire day and all of the awkward situations that would accompany that. And yes, it's natural for everyone to wonder why Yuuki Rito doesn't jump on that plan of becoming King of the Universe and having over 10 concubines instantly- answer: it's to keep the plot/entire show going. And did I mention how much I liked the girls in this show? Well, A LOT.  8)


now watching: Watamote  >:D

I watched this anime too and I like it .
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 08, 2014, 09:14:12 AM
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No Game No Life
12 episodes

I have no idea how in the world this show got so popular and made #26 on MAL. I guess the appeal could be to people who are into strategic thinking and such, but I just felt that this show was dumb. This was a big disappointment, because it seemed like something I would have liked. The good news is that it only lasted 12 episodes.

The show is about a shut-in and his sister who are legends at video games and get transported to a game world where the objective is to take over as much of it as possible. They never lose in real life, and in the game world... they never lose. That's a big reason why I thought it was boring and predictable. I gave it only a 4/10 on MAL, which is an abnormally low score for me to give. I understand that my opinion of this show is in the extreme minority.

The one thing I like in this show is the artwork. Beautiful colors and scenery.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 08, 2014, 07:33:45 PM
Starting up Digimon Xros Wars. At 79 episodes, this is going to take some time, even considering my vacation!

It's actually split into three parts, and from the reviews, I should expect it to be like this: part 1- mediocre, part 2- not bad, part 3- absolute trash.  ;D

2 episodes in and I see that it looks like it's sticking to the original formula of everything I like about the series.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on August 09, 2014, 12:09:38 PM
I really liked third season aka Tamers. Often dismissed as uncreative I find it deeply fascinating and characters are very likeable. If I had to say Digimon season that didn't much interest me that was probably Frontier. Btw, it took me many years to learn how different Digimon english dubs are from original japanese. I prefer watching anime in  japanese, with english subs (I know a few japanese sentences and words, especially nouns which intrigue me but not nearly enough to watch without subs).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 09, 2014, 06:35:14 PM
I thought it was odd that Tamers was the darkest season despite having the youngest characters. Brilliant, though. (Evangelion for kids?) I agree with Frontier not being extremely interesting. I liked it since it contained the things I like about the show, but really didn't contain any of the brilliance of previous seasons. As for Savers, I struggle to remember anything about the show; either my memory is bad or it was that dull?  :P

I really wonder how they are going to portray Digimon 2015. It's like they will have to pretend that the second season never happened, since that brought the whole first cast to an end.

What did you think about the first two seasons (and did you watch Savers and Xros Wars?)? I couldn't really choose a favorite between Adventure 1 and 2, though 2 is quite highly criticized for various reasons. What I liked was the exploration of both worlds, the constant plot twists, and some of the rather tragic characters. Ken, for one, enslaved and murdered countless Digimon who he thought weren't real and were just there for him to take out his personal problems on. Releasing this he goes through a process of redemption, hoping to be forgiven by everyone. And there is that character who dreamed ever since he was a kid to go to the Digital World- in the end, he falls to the ground and his body is halfway inside the edge of the Digital World, proclaims that he finally made it, and dies. I'd say that overall, Adventure 1 just took me away to a different universe that I could get lost in while Adventure 2 was just fun as hell to watch.

Oh yeah, and if I had to proclaim my favorite Digimon villain, I'd say Piedmon!  >:D ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 09, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
Earlier today I was eating lunch at Firehouse Subs and watching a baseball game. It reminded me of that scene in Angel Beats! when they are on the baseball field and trying to pass on from their purgatory by wish fulfillment. The melancholy I instantly felt was just about unbearable, so luckily I was finishing up. And lucky was able to shake it off, though I won't lie and say I didn't kind of enjoy it.  >:D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on August 10, 2014, 09:52:46 AM
What did you think about the first two seasons (and did you watch Savers and Xros Wars?)? I couldn't really choose a favorite between Adventure 1 and 2, though 2 is quite highly criticized for various reasons. What I liked was the exploration of both worlds, the constant plot twists, and some of the rather tragic characters. Ken, for one, enslaved and murdered countless Digimon who he thought weren't real and were just there for him to take out his personal problems on. Releasing this he goes through a process of redemption, hoping to be forgiven by everyone. And there is that character who dreamed ever since he was a kid to go to the Digital World- in the end, he falls to the ground and his body is halfway inside the edge of the Digital World, proclaims that he finally made it, and dies. I'd say that overall, Adventure 1 just took me away to a different universe that I could get lost in while Adventure 2 was just fun as hell to watch.

Oh yeah, and if I had to proclaim my favorite Digimon villain, I'd say Piedmon!  >:D ;D

I haven't watched savers but I basically know some of the plot and mainly how Kurata is quite possibly the most evil digimon villain ever and being the first human villain that actually truely was evil as Ken and Oikawa were very tragic and Yamaki (God I love Yamaki) had good intentions. From Xros wars I watched some of the episodes concerning Death Generals and I liked it but I haven't watched it all the way through yet. I like second season more than first despite it's flaws with some of the plot points. I really like the villains, Blackwargreymon was cool. And I have to say that Archnemon and Mummymon were extremely entertaining although I have to say they for some reason reminded me of Musashi and Kojiro (Jessie and James) from Pokemon. I could swear it was intentional considering in one episode when Blackwargreymon blasts them they clearly "blast away" like Team Rocket.

My favorite Digimon villain is without doubt Vamdemon aka Myotismon. Ryūzaburō Ōtomo does superb voice acting (he also voices my favorite character in One Piece, Crocodile, they even have identical laughs). He is so overwhelmingly cool and evil that I am wordless. Although I like him much less as Venomvamdemon and BelialVamdemon, probably because their appearance is less cool and intimidating.

While I love Piemon (Piedmon), especially his seiyu Chikao Otsuka,  my favorite Dark Master is easily Pinochimon (Puppetmon). Perhaps because despite him being a bit of a psychopath the way he genuinely wants friends is touching.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 10, 2014, 10:08:38 PM
While I love Piemon (Piedmon), especially his seiyu Chikao Otsuka,  my favorite Dark Master is easily Pinochimon (Puppetmon). Perhaps because despite him being a bit of a psychopath the way he genuinely wants friends is touching.
Puppetmon is awesome, too.  ;D I mean, a child-like Dark Master that wants to kill the Digidestined but just wants to play with them and be friends with them at the same time?  :P ;D

I watched the first four seasons on TV, so no subs or anything. A lot of the Japanese names I'm not even sure who they refer to (learned that Yamato = Matt, though). It's been a while. Other than Savers, about a week or so ago was possibly the first time that I watched a Digimon episode since maybe a year or two after Frontier ended in 2003. I watched the Adventure episode with Pixiemon- as it was playing, I could actually remember some of the lines.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 10, 2014, 10:30:33 PM
Speaking of Puppetmon, this episodes was awesome:


https://www.youtube.com/v/9Qy8oi_KST8

 ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on August 11, 2014, 04:57:40 AM
Ah yes, possibly the most censored episode in Adventure.  :D In Tamers (I think episode 15?) they actually changed one guy from being drunk to having a food poisoning.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 11, 2014, 12:41:19 PM
Ah yes, possibly the most censored episode in Adventure.  :D In Tamers (I think episode 15?) they actually changed one guy from being drunk to having a food poisoning.
LOL!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 14, 2014, 06:35:42 AM
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Mushishi: Zoku Shou
10 episodes


The second season of Mushishi, and it's what you'd expect- more slow paced, mystical, ancient Japanese fables. Once again, great stuff but just try not to fall asleep.

Each episode, like before, has basically the same format. The main character travels to villages that have some sort of odd affliction which turn out to be caused by the supernatural mushi. His goal is to rid the village of mushi.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 14, 2014, 06:02:24 PM
Back to Digimon Xros Wars.

Blastmon has to be the most ridiculous looking Digimon I've ever seen. He's a villain that eats colored crystals and crashes into mountains when flying. This is what I want to see more of.

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110812053140/digimon/images/9/9e/Blastmon_t.gif)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 24, 2014, 05:32:28 AM
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High School DxD
12 episodes + 6 Specials (also 3 OVA's I haven't watched, since third one comes out next year)

High School DxD New
12 episodes


Well, it's an ecchi... it was no To Love-Ru in terms of entertainment, though. It's not terrible, either, if you keep in mind that it's an ecchi. The storyline is mildly interesting though not captivating. Battles between demons and angels, and the demons tend to more often be the good guys (the protagonists are demons). Lots of comedy, too. I guess the best part of the show is seeing Rias (red-haired girl) and her huge breasts flopping around.



Finished part 1/3 of Digimon Xros Wars about a week ago, but will be starting up Planetes for now instead...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 25, 2014, 04:02:08 PM
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Planetes
26 episodes

The show about garbage collectors in space during the 2070's. It follows a lady who is a new employee and another employee, who is a guy who dreams of one day owning his own spaceship. The narrative shifts between the two and changes focus a few times throughout the show, involving things such as terrorism, romance, and comedy.

Overall, it's a superb show and I'm glad I watched it because I've had my eyes on it for years.


Next: Hanamonogatari. "Two hours of nothing but philosophical dialogue." Well, it's the Monogatari series, what do you expect?  ::)  :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 26, 2014, 11:04:06 AM
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A-Channel
12 episodes (OVA's etc. I'll watch soon)

Azumanga Daioh clone. Possibly the most relaxing show I've watched. Just a bunch of schoolgirls doing schoolgirl stuff.

The funniest scene has to be when the blonde girl is breaking open eggs. It's not really funny if I were to describe it, though, and can't find a clip of it to share.

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 27, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
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Hanamonogatari
5 episodes


All dialogue and no action or anything. The story focuses on Suruga and a former rival. They have problems with body parts turning into hairy demon body parts. Her rival is actually dead after killing herself 3 years ago but doesn't realize that she's a ghost.

And as usual, the really unique backgrounds are consistently there. Much of the show takes place on a basketball court, and it may be randomly flooded or dry and filled with hundreds of floating basketballs while they are engaging in incessant philosophical dialogue.


(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Hp1AT_Pj--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ecgr4y4g1mbd60iahlv8.jpg)


This is Suruga's bedroom. It is filled with hundreds of books with red covers for no apparent reason.

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--dVNzqtpk--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/f04ho1thikzvtcoaugc1.jpg)

So you can't exactly take what you see visually in this show to seriously, as it doesn't exactly reflect reality.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 28, 2014, 06:14:04 PM
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Mind Game
Movie


Obviously, I watched this because it was supposed to be a good, psychological thriller art film. Although it was a bit different than what I expected, it turned out to be completely amazing in a slightly different way.

At first, the pace of the movie is rapid and the ideas fascinating, but after a while it grinds to a halt. I'd say this is the only problem I have with the movie, but it's also its strength at the same time. The ending scene is absolutely insane. One of the most intense things I've seen (especially visually).

After watching the movie, the impression it left on me was something completely unique. Perhaps it was the insertion of a bit of unexpected melancholy into the film in the midst of all of the trippy, abstract scenes, but overall it was a feeling I had never felt before. Quite amazing.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 01, 2014, 07:20:21 PM
So, umm... this is considered a Digimon in Digimon Xros Wars.  :-X

(http://dc681.4shared.com/img/3u5cWnjP/s7/13d4da371f0/mervamon.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 04, 2014, 06:59:45 PM
Part 2/3 of Digimon Xros Wars done... so I'm on episode 55/79, then. Not looking forward to the next 25 episodes of what is considered to be absolutely terrible. They basically wrapped up the story already.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 07, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
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Digimon Xros Wars
79 episodes

This season is divided into three parts. In Part 1, Taiki goes to the Digital World with two others and makes each zone safe in the digital world. In Part 2, he goes back with two others to defeat the evil Death Generals. In Part 2, a kid named Tagiru who strives to be like Taiki participates in a "Digimon Hunt" where Digimon that cause mischief in the real world are captured.
 
The biggest drawback to the show is that it either is too episodic or feels too episodic. Save zone. Move on. Save another zone. Move on. etc...
but overall, due to the sheer imagination that the series provides in general, watching it is always going to stretch your mind somehow, whether it be through wacky comedy or clever ideas and themes. If you just want new ideas, one episode after the next, watch any Digimon Season or watch Space Dandy. Anthropomorphizing anything and calling it a Digimon or doing the same thing and calling it an alien... 

The most important thing about this series is its last few episodes. During the final fight, all 6 of the previous gogglehead heroes fight together. This is exactly what is going to pave the way for the reboot of the entire series next year. I guess they all come from different dimensions? It was an awesome idea that I've never heard any show doing before.

Although now this means that I've watched all seasons of Digimon, I still have a few of the movies to watch. Currently watching: Cromartie High School.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 08, 2014, 10:26:15 AM
Changed the look of my anime list! (accessible via my signature)
Different background picture and smaller text which makes it look more nicely formatted...

In my "Completed" list, I have 224 entries, with 44.29 days spent watching (completed) anime, including 2,642 episodes total.
Probably my favorite list so far is this person's list:

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Tyrel&status=2&order=0

Not only is the background picture amazing, but I don't see many people with 886 entries, 202 days spent watching anime, while watching over 30 anime that are currently airing at the same time. I think the highest number of entries I've seen on a legitimate list is 1100...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 08, 2014, 05:58:40 PM
Going to see if I like Fairy Tail. I won't commit to this show if I don't like it, though. The first part is 175 episodes long, and the second part (Fairy Tail (2014)) is currently at 23 episodes and airing, so who knows how long that'll air.

It just looks like a great epic to me... if not, I'll drop it...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 09, 2014, 07:06:30 AM
A few episodes into Fairy Tail... this show is awesome.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: mn dave on September 09, 2014, 07:28:22 AM
A few episodes into Fairy Tail... this show is awesome.  ;D

So do you read manga? Just curious...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 09, 2014, 07:48:30 AM
So do you read manga? Just curious...
I used to, but not very seriously. I used to own a few manga and read much of Rave/Rave Master, Gantz, and Elfen Lied. I don't spend time on manga because I'd rather just watch anime, and there's no time for both. I could probably just say "no" to keep it short.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 11, 2014, 08:14:19 PM
Shinsekai Yori ("From the New World") is quite an interesting show... the theme to that Dvorak Symphony is the main theme that plays throughout the show. It's a very beautiful and intriguing world; different in a way that's hard to describe.

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A millennium from now, in Japan, exists a utopia. The protagonist, Saki Watanabe, lives in an idyllic village barred from the outside world. Her world is ruled by the people who possess the "gods' power" of psychokinesis. After finally obtaining her own powers, Saki enters the Zenjin Academy to train along with five other children: Satoru Asahina, Maria Akizuki, Mamoru Itou, Shun Aonuma, and Reiko Amano.

Not all is as it seems, however. In this utopian village, strange rumors about a monstrous cat that abducts children circulate, and students are said to disappear from the academy. The world and its history are much darker than they appear and humanity is on the verge of collapse.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/anime/13125/Shinsekai_yori#zLO01G6TrEtephpR.99

(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/12/36775.jpg)


I probably won't be doing those anime reviews any more, but will just post on this thread whenever I feel like posting any thoughts.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 23, 2014, 05:15:05 AM
I updated my anime list to reflect an extremely difficult criteria for receiving a score of 10: a 10 is a 10, not a 9.5.

So, reluctantly, I knocked down several anime scores to a 9 (the most difficult being Paranoia Agent and Attack on Titan, which deserve 9.5). The only two 10's that remained were Elfen Lied and Higurashi no Naku Koro ni.

I'm open to changing it to a 9 if one day I feel like it (in case it doesn't stand the test of time in my mind), but From the New World is the newest entry to receive a 10. If you ask me, this is the only show that is truly on the level of the other two (though probably objectively better). The strength of the show lies in the compelling story told in a well-developed an interesting new world.

Well, not doing reviews any more, but the most important point is that this is absolutely one of the best anime I've watched and you just have to watch it- nothing quite like it.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 23, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
arrgh... who am I kidding.

Okay, Attack on Titan and Paranoia Agent will get 10's. I'm having trouble accepting them as 9's.
I feel at peace leaving Death Note, Code Geass, Clannad After Story, Now and Then Here and There, and FMP: Fumoffu as 9's.

So if I had to list my top 5 favorite anime:

1. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (both seasons)
2. Elfen Lied
3. Shinsekai Yori ("From the New World")
4. Mousou Dairinin ("Paranoia Agent")
5. Shingeki no Kyojin ("Attack on Titan")


I'm hoping the lady I work with gets to watch Shinsekai Yori... it seems like something she'd like. And I'm gonna force my friend to watch it.  >:D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 24, 2014, 06:20:50 PM
I have to rant somewhere about this show I really despise: Free!

So a few years ago I committed myself to watching everything KyoAni produced. Around that time, the quality of their shows started declining quite a bit.  >:( This is the studio that brought us Clannad After Story and FMP: Fumoffu. What is happening!!!???

Free! has two seasons- just finished the second season which literally just finished airing today (so now I've officially completed every anime produced by KyoAni to date). Free! is a show about a bunch of high school guys in a swimming club. It features plenty of male fan service, embodied by the fangirl that keeps hanging out with the guys only there to claim how she is a muscle enthusiast and just there to look at the shirtless guys.

I like to compare this show to K-On!. First of all, there is an exclamation point at the end of the title. But it seems like a similar idea, because K-On! is about girls forming a rock band in their music club and Free! is about guys forming a swimming team for their swimming club. That premise alone makes me prefer K-On! by a wide margin, but I'm open-minded. The problem with Free! is that it tries to be serious. These guys get very emotional really quick, and there is a lot of crying in the show. It just didn't seem anywhere near believable. What type of guy acts the way that these guys act? K-On!, on the other hand, was only ever serious at the end of the second season, when they realize they are graduating and that their fun was coming to an end. However, it didn't make you sad because there was a bunch of crying, because (well, according to my memory) there wasn't- what made you sad was the going away song they wrote for the one band member who was a year younger than them and the overall tone in some moments turning to melancholy for the first time in 30 or 40 episodes.

I actually gave Free! a 3, the all-time lowest score I've ever given to a full-length anime, only comparable to the other atrocity produced by KyoAni, the show Tamako Market. It's about the level of intelligence of Tamako Market, yet tries to be serious, which leads me to actually laugh during the serious moments when the guys are crying. That's probably not the intended reaction.

So now just gonna watch the first part of Fairy Tail... only 167 more episodes to go.  :P
(decided not to watch Fairy Tail (2014) until it ended, since I don't want it to be on my "Watching" for possibly several years)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 19, 2014, 01:47:58 PM
Episode 34 of Fairy Tail- includes Rachmaninov's 2nd Piano Concerto.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on October 20, 2014, 03:53:09 AM
The first full metal alchemist anime includes Chopin's etude op. 10 no 3 and Beethoven's 5th.  8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 20, 2014, 06:32:29 AM
The first full metal alchemist anime includes Chopin's etude op. 10 no 3 and Beethoven's 5th.  8)
I've only seen Brotherhood... though it's probably never a good idea to include Beethoven's 5th (let me guess, the opening), since that's gotta be one of the most overused musical cliches that exist.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on October 20, 2014, 09:12:23 AM
Yep, I always prefer finale of 5th to first movement. And Pastoral symphony to whole 5th symphony. The first movement is so widely used in popular culture that it really has lost it's power.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on November 19, 2014, 09:26:16 PM
So..is Fairy Tail or Steinsgate worth one's time? Greg?

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 19, 2014, 10:05:39 PM
So..is Fairy Tail or Steinsgate worth one's time? Greg?
Steins;gate is definitely. It's a bit hard to describe the show, but there is a reason why it's #2 on MAL. It's just GREAT. Very unique and very much intelligently written. A must watch, for sure.

Fairy Tail is worth the time if you know what you're getting into. I'm on episode 78 out of 175 for the first part. You'll know if it's the kind of show you like probably before you even watch it. It's a shonen, so nothing deep or thought provoking, but it's basically just a magic guild doing dangerous missions, having fun and being funny (with plenty of drama thrown in). Extremely entertaining. Just the type of show I've always wanted to watch.

Both shows I'm scoring a 9/10.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on November 19, 2014, 10:58:30 PM
Steins;gate is definitely. It's a bit hard to describe the show, but there is a reason why it's #2 on MAL. It's just GREAT. Very unique and very much intelligently written. A must watch, for sure.

Fairy Tail is worth the time if you know what you're getting into. I'm on episode 78 out of 175 for the first part. You'll know if it's the kind of show you like probably before you even watch it. It's a shonen, so nothing deep or thought provoking, but it's basically just a magic guild doing dangerous missions, having fun and being funny (with plenty of drama thrown in). Extremely entertaining. Just the type of show I've always wanted to watch.

Both shows I'm scoring a 9/10.

Sounds promising. I am a great fan of Claymore, but rarely encounter anything of its caliber. Any suggestions?

Hmm, have you seen Attack on Titan by any chance? Is it any good?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on November 20, 2014, 04:03:38 AM
Hmm, have you seen Attack on Titan by any chance? Is it any good?

It is great, like Steins:gate but my brother thinks manga has become a bit weird right after the point where anime ended. I think it is still excellent but I also see some of it bit weird. Hard to say without spoiling.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on November 20, 2014, 07:27:32 AM
I watched Akira for the first time this past weekend. Other titles I have on my to-watch list are ..

Spirited Away
Ghost in the Shell
Grave of the Fireflies
My Neighbor Totoro


Sounds like you have a great set of animated films ahead of you!   :) Spirited Away (in particular) is such an incredible feast of imagination and creativity - (best for a Halloween setting though, but definitely a keeper)!!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on November 20, 2014, 07:50:44 AM
I watched Spirited away last new year. Somehow, it seemed a fitting time to watch it. Excellent film, certainly.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on November 20, 2014, 07:52:28 AM
My brother really likes Pandora Hearts but for some reason I have some trouble understanding the plot at times. Don't know why, I have read much  more complicated things.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 20, 2014, 08:41:34 AM
Grave of the Fireflies
Bring the tissues...


Sounds promising. I am a great fan of Claymore, but rarely encounter anything of its caliber. Any suggestions?
I honestly didn't care for Claymore. Not sure why, since everyone seems to like it.



Hmm, have you seen Attack on Titan by any chance? Is it any good?
It's one out of the 4 series that I gave a 10 on my list (in my signature), so yeah, it's pretty good.  ;D
That show is the ultimate portrayal of helplessness (although Gantz and Evangelion are nearly as much so).

To answer your previous question, have you seen Elfen Lied, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, Paranoia Agent or Shinsekai Yori (From the New World)? Those are my other 10's, and I have a handful of shows that I'd give a 9.5 to if I could...  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 25, 2014, 11:24:46 AM
Finished Toradora!. You could see where this show was going by episode 1, so it's practically impossible to spoil it. Plenty of cheap drama along the way. A romantic comedy where I couldn't really put myself in the perspective of the main male character since to me, the female love interest was just a runt and a brat at the same time. The first love interest was much better- a delightfully weird girl. The strength of the show is the well-developed characters. Other than that, I don't get why it's highly regarded because it just seems like a typical romantic comedy that is rarely funny.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 14, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
Finished Fairy Tail. Most episodes of an anime (175) I've watched other than Digimon or Pokemon. (It's technically still airing, but under the name Fairy Tail 2014, which I'm not going to watch now).

It's exactly what I wanted to see. The main story revolves around the Fairy Tail magic guild, especially concerning the four characters in my current avatar. Although there is technically no main character, Lucy is definitely the one out of the four that gets the most storyline treatment and really develops into one of the most realistic and fully fleshed out anime characters I've seen (and is definitely one of my favorite).

The main complaints I have about the show are some typical problems with the shounen genre. Now, it doesn't have extremely long-drawn fights or ridiculous amounts of filler (stuff that Naruto is infamous for) but has a lot of the corniness of the shounen genre.

The soundtrack (which includes some Rachmaninoff), the magic, fantasy, humor, intense moments, etc. are just pure entertainment. If you don't want any profound messages (other than how nearly all shounen think the power of teamwork is amazing and profound) but just want to immerse yourself in a fantasy world world with awesome fights, lovable characters and crazy ideas, this is the anime for you. I love it, if that's not obvious already.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 19, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
Going to take a totally different approach to watching anime now... up until now, I've almost always been watching anime one at a time. But now, I'm at the point where I don't care about quickly finishing any of them- I've already built a big enough list (263 so far). So I'm just going to concurrently watch as many series as I feel like at the same time, including airing ones (right now I have 6 on at the same time, including Fairy Tail 2014 which I previously said I wouldn't watch yet). Most other people with a long anime list have 10-20 shows going on at a time. Just going to take my time and savor the variety of genres that I can watch whenever.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on December 20, 2014, 11:53:21 PM
Any Death note fans here? I actually haven't watched anime completely but I know some of the differences between endings. At first I seemed to like L more than Light but soon enough my villain-worshipping mind started to prefer Light. Although L (and definitely Mello and Near) has several not so heroic qualities as well... I'm also one of those people who likes Misa.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 21, 2014, 08:47:31 PM
At the beginning of the show, I was actually supportive of Light at the beginning until I realized how wrong what he was doing was.  :D Something happens later in the show that really shows what type of person Light is- at that point it would be impossible to be on his side. And yeah, Misa is terrible.


For fun... my original Death Note post from '09:

I finished watching Death Note today.
Most intense ending of any show I've ever seen. Even slightly more so than Welcome to the NHK, which is saying A LOT.
While watching this show, you end up having to pick a side. Despite all that happened, I'm surprised which side I picked. I wish enough people watched this show, so we could get into a serious discussion about it. Now I wonder what kind of person I am?  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on December 22, 2014, 03:05:13 AM
Yah, Light really did end up going off the deep end. I mean, killing people for lazyness? But he's so cool imo :P The reason I like Misa is probably that she has certain dorkiness that made her interesting. I think only characters I didn't like were Takada and Demegawa. I didn't like Mello first because I kept all the time seeing him as a girl but after he gets that scar I started to like him so much he ended up temporarily being my avatar.

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 12, 2015, 12:54:21 PM
Actually caught up now on Fairy Tail, after 215 episodes. This new season isn't that great. Hopefully it's just a temporary slump that is inevitable with long-running shounen.

So now, currently watching:
Death Parade
Mushishi Zoku Sho 2nd Season
Durarara!!x2 Shou
Tsukimonogatari
Fairy Tail (2014)

Trying to stick mostly to shows that are currently airing. I'll be able to add Digimon Tri to that last when it airs in April...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 16, 2015, 08:05:12 PM
I have to say something about Yuyu Hakusho: the first few episodes are simply a must-watch. Some of the best storytelling ever. It goes from heartbreakingly sad to hilarious at a moment's notice, all done effectively.

Years ago, I had volume one of the manga which covered the first few episodes (with additional short stories) and I had also seen the last over 10 or so episodes of the show and a few random episodes throughout. It's also the rare anime that is great dubbed (subbed is actually hard to find online).

I know the quality of the beginning of the show doesn't last because it gets settled more into an action-oriented shounen. Regardless, I can tell this show is easily going to end up a 9/10 for me...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 24, 2015, 05:13:40 AM
I have to share this scene from Yuyu Hakusho. This is just the most brutal, metal thing ever.

https://www.youtube.com/v/7cYTTC4YorM
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 24, 2015, 06:11:29 AM
I have to share this scene from Yuyu Hakusho. This is just the most brutal, metal thing ever.

Nah, this scene from Girls und Panzer beats it in the heavy metal department  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/v/yNtkIzNthb0


Sarge
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 24, 2015, 07:20:06 AM
Heavy... metal... well, literally.  ;)

That's exactly the type of show my friend is baffled by. "That tank is sooooooo kawaii!"
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 25, 2015, 10:34:07 PM
Just finished episode 64 since now I'm totally addicted to this show and am staying up later than planned.

That fight between Yuusuke and Toguro is easily the most intense thing I've ever watched.

Here's a little image of Toguro at full power:
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/yuyuhakusho/images/4/47/Toguro_120.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20091126044646)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 31, 2015, 03:46:28 PM
Finished all 112 episodes of Yu Yu Hakusho.

Well, let's just say that might actually be in my top 5 favorite anime now. Probably the only thing about the entire show that wasn't amazing was the last ten or so episodes.

All of the characters, villains, storylines, etc. are just so well done. Compare the characters of Yu Yu Hakusho to say, Fairy Tail, and there's just such a profound difference in depth. The whole cast and all of the villains are so unforgettable. There were two main villains, and the first one leaves you questioning whether he was even bad to begin with.

The English voice acting was completely superb for the main cast. I never even had to urge to seek out the original Japanese audio for the whole show since I couldn't imagine it being any better. So glad I chose to watch this show in its entirety from beginning to end, despite having seen so much already over a decade ago. Classic shows like these may show their age, but they'll never lose their greatness.

Sometime this year I'll watch Hunter x Hunter (2011), a supposedly even better adaption of Hunter x Hunter, which is Yoshihiro Togashi's other magnum opus besides YYH. (It's #3 on MAL). I saw the original and really liked it, though don't remember much of it since it's been like 6 years. Will wait a bit to watch it, since it's 148 episodes, and I'm exhausted after these 112 episodes...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 24, 2015, 08:31:57 AM
Halfway through Dragonball. Loving it- absolutely hilarious and the world has such of a unique feel to it.

Going to continue to Dragonball Z, which will be the longest show I've ever watched, at 291 episodes.  ??? I've only seen maybe 3 or so random episodes at friends' houses around 13 years ago. Gonna take forever...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on February 24, 2015, 08:44:20 AM
God I love DBZ, though I'm usually making fun of it just as often as I am really into it whenever I watch it. I started watching Kai this summer and got to the Android saga but stopped there. I've never seen the entire Cell Saga or the Buu Saga so maybe I should start again.

Lately I've been watching a lot of classic anime that I missed out on when I was younger (or saw only in dubbed form): Sailor Moon (the original series, about 25 episodes in), Cowboy Bebop (a little over halfway through), Kill la Kill (about 6 eps in; super awesome!)

Last summer I watched all of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which I think might be my favorite anime (including the movies as part of the series). I watched all of Attack on Titan this past December and really loved it.

Series I want to watch next: Space Dandy, Gurren Lagaan, Sword Art Online, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Macross Plus, Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone complex... so many others. Always open for suggestions!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 24, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
God I love DBZ, though I'm usually making fun of it just as often as I am really into it whenever I watch it. I started watching Kai this summer and got to the Android saga but stopped there. I've never seen the entire Cell Saga or the Buu Saga so maybe I should start again.

Lately I've been watching a lot of classic anime that I missed out on when I was younger (or saw only in dubbed form): Sailor Moon (the original series, about 25 episodes in), Cowboy Bebop (a little over halfway through), Kill la Kill (about 6 eps in; super awesome!)

Last summer I watched all of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which I think might be my favorite anime (including the movies as part of the series). I watched all of Attack on Titan this past December and really loved it.

Series I want to watch next: Space Dandy, Gurren Lagaan, Sword Art Online, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Macross Plus, Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone complex... so many others. Always open for suggestions!
Space Dandy is a really fun, imaginative show that's not serious at all. SAO I liked the first half, but thought the second half was unnecessary and haven't watched the sequel. Kill la Kill I can't wait to watch. Attack on Titan is one of my favorites. Interesting to see someone with Evangelion as their favorite anime!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on February 26, 2015, 08:02:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHyzxD9yzvk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHyzxD9yzvk)

no. 1 is poppycock. I like Pokemon's english dub opening just fine but original japanese blows it out of water:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbrbpqs11gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbrbpqs11gw)

Btw, top3 just happened to be from shows that I watch :) And I love intros of those 3. Although, as I said, japanese pokemon beats english. :P
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 26, 2015, 08:18:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHyzxD9yzvk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHyzxD9yzvk)

no. 1 is poppycock. I like Pokemon's english dub opening just fine but original japanese blows it out of water:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbrbpqs11gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbrbpqs11gw)

Btw, top3 just happened to be from shows that I watch :) And I love intros of those 3. Although, as I said, japanese pokemon beats english. :P
Lol. Well... the only ones I liked were the Pokemon (English), Digimon, and Yuyu Hakusho themes. Checked out the DBZ theme and not bad for something so minimal. In general, I don't even give anime themes a first chance and skip over them since IMO 90% of them are stupid. I guess when it comes to the Pokemon theme, it brings back strong feelings about it being the thing I'd look forward to all week and seeing it was so exciting every time.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on March 09, 2015, 03:58:54 PM
Just finished Serial Experiments: Lain -- like the end of Evangelion, left with more questions than answers. Such a beautiful and haunting show.


(http://www.galadnor.cl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lain0.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 09, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
Ah... okay...

"kitsune"- I think I might know who you are now...  ;)

Not sure how it took you several years to finish Lain, but whatever.  :D

Finishing Dragonball tonight- 4 episodes left (seemingly all filler), and will transition on to Dragonball Z. I definitely like Dragonball, though it isn't quite as good as the true king of the shounen genre, Yu Yu Hakusho. What I like about Dragonball is something that I probably won't find in DBZ: the comedy. Goku had me laughing uncontrollably at times as a kid, being so naive and for example, unable to distinguish the difference between males and females. In DBZ, I expect to see intense battles, though not sure what else to expect besides that.

I almost bought this at the mall today:

(http://4u.pacn.ws/360/PA.35748.002.jpg)

 8)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 09, 2015, 04:34:02 PM
Just finished Serial Experiments: Lain -- like the end of Evangelion, left with more questions than answers. Such a beautiful and haunting show.
Did I ever mention "From the New World" (Shinsekai Yori) to you? It's an anime I watched sometime last year, 3rd favorite of all time, and seems like something you'd really like.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on March 09, 2015, 04:55:45 PM
I don't think so, but will definitely look it up!

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on March 12, 2015, 01:27:32 PM
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (2012)

The first season -- this show is so dumb but I can't stop watching for some reason. There's a character named R.E.O. Speedwagon and the ending theme is "Roundabout" by Yes.

This fight is pretty hilarious and awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/v/kt2O_bAVuoA
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on March 15, 2015, 10:25:16 PM
14 episodes into Steins;Gate -- wasn't sure about this series at first, the limited setting and repetitious nature was reminding me too much of Death Note and Okabe/Hououin's Mad Professor grandstanding was starting to wear thing, but the last episode was such a shock in terms of the shift in tone -- wow, did not expect that at all (I assume the only person reading this, Greg, knows what I mean).

An aside: why does Daru sound like he is actually mentally handicapped? Is it just a cartoonish exaggeration of the otaku-type (which get a lot of shit from Japanese media in general) or are there people who actually talk like that? (NB I am watching with the Japanese audio and English subs(
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on March 15, 2015, 10:27:46 PM
I promise eventually I will get to shows that have ended within the last year, there's just so much for me to catch up on and the anime world (apart from the big obvious series) is still relatively new to me.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on March 15, 2015, 10:41:46 PM
I have been watching Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic with my kids and we definitely had a great time doing so!   :P
Great anime with an interesting and immersive storyline! [Available on Netflix]
We are moving on to Magi: The Kingdom of Magic!

(http://static.tumblr.com/24ea74b6fc0af3139d680fd6b47d8f60/xvje9zt/joenjt7yc/tumblr_static_9cypzvym20w0g88ko8w40084k.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on March 16, 2015, 12:24:57 AM
I have been watching Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic with my kids and we definitely had a great time doing so!   :P
Great anime with an interesting and immersive storyline! [Available on Netflix]
We are moving on to Magi: The Kingdom of Magic!

(http://static.tumblr.com/24ea74b6fc0af3139d680fd6b47d8f60/xvje9zt/joenjt7yc/tumblr_static_9cypzvym20w0g88ko8w40084k.jpg)

That's awesome that you get to do that with your kids. I'm biased of course, but honestly almost no American shows aimed at children (except for Adventure Time and a few others) airing now have anywhere near the level of imagination and willingness to take risks that so many anime do. I think that children raised on anime (and maybe eventually manga) would exhibit less of the ADD tendencies and non-literacy that you see in younger kids nowadays (although certain anime might make it worse, haha).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on March 16, 2015, 12:33:43 AM
That's awesome that you get to do that with your kids. I'm biased of course, but honestly almost no American shows aimed at children (except for Adventure Time and a few others) airing now have anywhere near the level of imagination and willingness to take risks that so many anime do. I think that children raised on anime (and maybe eventually manga) would exhibit less of the ADD tendencies and non-literacy that you see in younger kids nowadays (although certain anime might make it worse, haha).

Interesting perspective, Kitsune! I think we are drawn to the complex world building and plot more than anything else. There are a few inappropriate spots here and there, but it is not a big deal. The major positive themes are much stronger and carry through very well. Besides, I find the creators of this series very imaginative, fun and able to carry the adventure onwards with a lot of glee as well as passion. Have you seen it by any chance?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on March 16, 2015, 12:36:10 AM
I'll check it out -- from the images the costumes and character design look really wonderful.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on March 16, 2015, 12:53:43 AM
I'll check it out -- from the images the costumes and character design look really wonderful.
Yes, great art (and characters with depth), but the story line is the best. Some of the fights are a lot of fun!   :P
We are watching its sequel "Magi: The Kingdom of Magic", but I am already on the lookout for something exciting after we finish that one.

Hmmm,  are you (or anybody else here) familiar with "Fate/Zero"? Is that a good anime?



(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/002/e/b/magi_the_kingdom_of_magic_by_rest_in_torment-d70j4nj.png)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Corey on March 16, 2015, 02:36:36 AM
I haven't seen it. Greg?

One I'd recommend watching with kids is Kino's Journey

(http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/shows/banner_253.jpg)

The story follows Kino as she travels with her talking motorcycle Hermes to different lands (the world is similar to Earth, but not quite familiar as being set in the past or future) where she encounters the quirks, customs and histories of these places, while only remaining in each place for 3 days before she drives restlessly on to the next land. Not violent apart from one scene (in the entire series) and I found the backgrounds, world design and in-show music very soothing, the story morally interesting and emotionally complex and often quite touching, and the different worlds are all very unique and imaginatively fleshed out. Definitely one of my favorites. I am due for a rewatch myself.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 16, 2015, 05:58:32 AM
14 episodes into Steins;Gate -- wasn't sure about this series at first, the limited setting and repetitious nature was reminding me too much of Death Note and Okabe/Hououin's Mad Professor grandstanding was starting to wear thing, but the last episode was such a shock in terms of the shift in tone -- wow, did not expect that at all (I assume the only person reading this, Greg, knows what I mean).

An aside: why does Daru sound like he is actually mentally handicapped? Is it just a cartoonish exaggeration of the otaku-type (which get a lot of shit from Japanese media in general) or are there people who actually talk like that? (NB I am watching with the Japanese audio and English subs(
Steins;Gate does get into a roller coaster ride of feelings the longer it goes on.

I would be surprised if many people talk like Daru lol...



Hmmm,  are you (or anybody else here) familiar with "Fate/Zero"? Is that a good anime?
It's supposed to be really good. I just watched the first episode of the series and was like "meh" and never continued it- which really doesn't mean anything.



We are watching its sequel "Magi: The Kingdom of Magic", but I am already on the lookout for something exciting after we finish that one.
I've never watched Magi, so not sure what you would be in the mood to watch after that... most of what I'd recommend is definitely not for kids.  ;D

Kino's Journey is great, but totally different (I hear Magi is a shounen). I would say Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood may be good to watch, though I was surprised to see an R rating (violence & profanity). Not sure how much profanity would be in the English dub, since I watched it subbed. Either way, it's a must watch, being ranked as the top anime of all time.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on March 16, 2015, 06:59:38 AM
I haven't seen it. Greg?

One I'd recommend watching with kids is Kino's Journey

(http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/shows/banner_253.jpg)

The story follows Kino as she travels with her talking motorcycle Hermes to different lands (the world is similar to Earth, but not quite familiar as being set in the past or future) where she encounters the quirks, customs and histories of these places, while only remaining in each place for 3 days before she drives restlessly on to the next land. Not violent apart from one scene (in the entire series) and I found the backgrounds, world design and in-show music very soothing, the story morally interesting and emotionally complex and often quite touching, and the different worlds are all very unique and imaginatively fleshed out. Definitely one of my favorites. I am due for a rewatch myself.

I've never watched Magi, so not sure what you would be in the mood to watch after that... most of what I'd recommend is definitely not for kids.  ;D

Kino's Journey is great, but totally different (I hear Magi is a shounen). I would say Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood may be good to watch, though I was surprised to see an R rating (violence & profanity). Not sure how much profanity would be in the English dub, since I watched it subbed. Either way, it's a must watch, being ranked as the top anime of all time.

Thanks for the recommendations, Kitsune & Greg!  I see that Kino's Journey is available on Amazon Prime. It definitely seems very PG  :D.  Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood I have heard about (lots), but have yet not entered its world. I was thinking about that one of Fate/Zero. I checked out the first episode of the latter and was not too impressed. Perhaps I should give it a chance...?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: kitsune on March 18, 2015, 08:22:29 AM
Good lord, the last couple EPs of Steins;Gate (#15-20) are some of the most emotionally engaging of any anime I've seen. The episode centering around Moeka and her obsession with "FB" and her subsequent suicide in that particular world line was extremely upsetting.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on March 18, 2015, 03:08:44 PM
Good lord, the last couple EPs of Steins;Gate (#15-20) are some of the most emotionally engaging of any anime I've seen. The episode centering around Moeka and her obsession with "FB" and her subsequent suicide in that particular world line was extremely upsetting.

You changed your account?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: kitsune on March 18, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
You changed your account?

Yes, since I no longer wanted to see replies from a certain unsavory thread that was poisoning my experience of this mostly lovely forum. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on March 18, 2015, 06:20:44 PM
Good lord, the last couple EPs of Steins;Gate (#15-20) are some of the most emotionally engaging of any anime I've seen. The episode centering around Moeka and her obsession with "FB" and her subsequent suicide in that particular world line was extremely upsetting.

Hmm, I need to check out Steinsgate....   >:D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: kitsune on March 18, 2015, 06:54:30 PM
Yes, but now you know too much since my spoiler-hider failed!  ;D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on March 18, 2015, 08:22:22 PM
Yes, but now you know too much since my spoiler-hider failed!  ;D

Ha ha! I am pretty good at not reading what I don't want to read so your "spoiler-hider" worked!   :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Abuelo Igor on March 23, 2015, 03:20:58 PM
I move the discussion from the dating thread here because it seems more appropriate:

One of the worst effects of Western influence on Japanese culture. In traditional Japanese art the eyes tend to be even under-emphasized.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Suzuki_Harunobu_-_Woman_Visiting_the_Shrine_in_the_Night_-_Google_Art_Project_crop.jpg/220px-Suzuki_Harunobu_-_Woman_Visiting_the_Shrine_in_the_Night_-_Google_Art_Project_crop.jpg)

See what I mean? What's supposed to be so EVIL about anime big eyes? They really seem to infuriate some people. North Star seems to think they are hateful and a symptom of harmful cultural contamination. Why?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 23, 2015, 03:38:48 PM
I move the discussion from the dating thread here because it seems more appropriate:

See what I mean? What's supposed to be so EVIL about anime big eyes? They really seem to infuriate some people. North Star seems to think they are hateful and a symptom of harmful cultural contamination. Why?

Not hateful (at least in my case) but comically unnatural. I don't watch much anime (I usually get bored, or grossed out, half way through a series or film) but the one I did watch to completion is typical: Girls und Panzers: very realistic depictions of the tanks, including the interiors; and utterly unrealistic girls with super-sized eyes. The discrepancy between the cartoonish depictions of the girls and the realism of the hardware is difficult for me to justify or accept.

Sarge
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Abuelo Igor on March 23, 2015, 03:51:50 PM
Is it just as irritating with, say, cartoony Disney characters interacting with painterly, realistically designed backgrounds and props, as in films like Hunchback of Notre Dame and its like, or does the animation have to be Asian to push all the wrong buttons?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 24, 2015, 08:44:44 PM
The discrepancy between the cartoonish depictions of the girls and the realism of the hardware is difficult for me to justify or accept.
That show seems like a gimmick to me. Haven't watched it, though.

I can't think of many military anime, but the Full Metal Panic series is definitely great. It's sort of half-military, half-slice of life high school comedy. My favorite in the series is Full Metal Panic Fumoffu- just brings in the comedy big time. One of the funniest shows I've watched.

Watched episode 1 of Kill la Kill... pretty crazy stuff. It has potential for me to really like it, but I'll still be looking for something that hooks me in from the very start so I don't have to invest time in the show and realize I'm not that interested in it, or like the show but have no appetite for it (Psycho Pass and Trigun, for example).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: kitsune on March 27, 2015, 09:07:31 AM
Have you finished KLK yet?  ;D Seriously that is maybe the fastest paced show (not limited to anime) that I've seen. I describe it to people as  "the most epic video game never created" in that everything just keeps *levelling up* -- which normally would bother me if it were just mindless fighting but KLK is so smartly done. I found myself having to pause it occasionally because I missed something due to laughing too hard.  :D

About halfway through JoJo -- since it's transformed from just being "Dio and JoJo Hate Each Other: The Series" it's actually gotten more interesting and badass. The "poses" are still hilarious and ridiculous though.

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/3/31587/2626479-3819519367-jojos.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: kitsune on March 27, 2015, 09:09:47 AM
Sarge miiiight enjoy the Wagnerian overblowness of Attack on Titan with its rampant Germanophilia and highly militaristic society, but I feel like it's hard to recommend entire series unless someone has prior familiarity with other things (or seems like they would commit to watching 20-something episodes of a thing)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 27, 2015, 09:17:00 AM
Sarge miiiight enjoy the Wagnerian overblowness of Attack on Titan with its rampant Germanophilia and highly militaristic society, but I feel like it's hard to recommend entire series unless someone has prior familiarity with other things (or seems like they would commit to watching 20-something episodes of a thing)
That would be a good one, or, speaking of Germany, Monster may be another good recommendation for him (though it is over 70 episodes).


Have you finished KLK yet?  ;D Seriously that is maybe the fastest paced show (not limited to anime) that I've seen. I describe it to people as  "the most epic video game never created" in that everything just keeps *levelling up* -- which normally would bother me if it were just mindless fighting but KLK is so smartly done. I found myself having to pause it occasionally because I missed something due to laughing too hard.  :D
Lol, nice description. At the rate I'm watching anime now, though, it'll take forever. 13 on my watching list, only an episode or two a day lately.  :-X
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: kitsune on March 27, 2015, 09:55:31 AM
lol, I had to go down to just watching one series at a time (even though I was watching at the most 5 or so concurrently) -- I wasn't getting the plotlines confused or anything but the impact of each one individually seemed lessened (and I would've hated to not have been as affected by Steins;Gate as much as I ended up being)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on March 27, 2015, 11:00:58 AM
My brother hated the way Colossal Titan's and Armored titan's identity was revealed in the manga. I actually thought it was quite clever.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on March 27, 2015, 11:04:25 AM
Btw, people joke a lot about attack of titan's use of German. "Japanese and german, is it World war II again?"
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: kitsune on March 27, 2015, 12:03:05 PM
I'm at a weird impasse where I refuse to read translated manga, but haven't quite as yet attained the proficiency to read them in the original Japanese -- though I've been trying (and mostly understanding and sometimes only sorta understanding) with Osamu Tezuka's "Buddha", and my order of the first volume of Mushi-shi from YesAsia should be arriving soon. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 20, 2015, 07:17:58 PM
Just finished the whole Frieza saga... on episode 108 of DBZ. 22 episodes today.  ;D

I looked it up, and indeed that is the longest battle in anime history. Probably the longest battle for any TV show. 20 episodes of that was just Goku vs. Frieza one-on-one, and 10 or close to 10 was the group against Frieza. So probably near 30 episodes in total.

I heard there may be a potential candidate for a fight lasting longer... in Naruto, there is a fight that lasts 80 chapters, so that would be much longer when animated. I'm not sure if they have animated that part, yet, though, since I don't watch Naruto any more.

Yeah, this show is definitely the definition of epic...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 10, 2015, 11:50:26 AM
Finished DBZ, so that ends the whole Dragonball/DBZ series for me at 444 episodes.

The very definition of epic.

Even the ages. Check out the ages of the characters at the start of Dragonball

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Goku/Chi Chi: 12
Krillin: 13
Bulma/Tien/Yamcha 16
Vegeta 17

and the end of DBZ

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Goku: 47(41 due to death) Chi Chi: 47
Krillin: 48
Bulma/Tien/Yamcha: 51
Vegeta: 52(54)
Gohan: 27(28)
Piccolo: 31(32)
Mr Satan: 48

The 2 DBZ movies (14 and 15) appear to be the only material that is blatantly canon that I haven't watched, and I'm not interested in GT right now, so just going to wait for DB Super.

I really would like to see the dragon restore their ages and make some of the weaker characters a bit stronger somehow.

Anyways, too much to say about this show for one post. 3 months to get through this.  I have to say, this show was a pleasant surprise because I didn't expect much considering how popular it is. Definitely alongside Yuyu Hakusho as the best shounen I've seen.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on May 10, 2015, 12:38:40 PM
My family watched this show twice over the last month. An excellent anime in every way (story, art). A magical adventure!    8)

I hear that a third season is in the works for a US release in 2016 or so. Is that true?

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/537391966985429355/321BCFDB5863CDC5624DD4B6B3E066FDAEA9F3C6/)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 10, 2015, 01:09:06 PM
I hear that a third season is in the works for a US release in 2016 or so. Is that true?
No idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were. Gotta make that money.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 21, 2015, 01:44:58 PM
Anyone here ever watch Trigun? Just finished, really a superb show.

So, back to Gintama, which may be the only anime I watch for a really long time unless I really catch a craving to watch something else. I'm only about 268 episodes away from getting caught up on a show that's currently airing new episodes each week, after all.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on May 21, 2015, 11:35:08 PM
Anyone read the chapter 69 (he he, 69) of Shingeki no Kyojin? It blows my mind! Definitely one of my favorite chapters.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 22, 2015, 04:15:33 AM
Anyone read the chapter 69 (he he, 69) of Shingeki no Kyojin? It blows my mind! Definitely one of my favorite chapters.
I'm just waiting for that second season... another year...  :(
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 31, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
I just finish watching Parasyte- The Maxim (Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu). Superb show. The premise is this guy gets an alien parasite living in his hand and battles between him and some of the other parasites ensue throughout the show. It does well in portraying in an interesting way the relationship between the human host and the parasite, and also the contrast between human emotions and the emotionless parasites.

Gonna finish up Kill la Kill possibly tonight... so I know a lot of people really like it, but personally, I just didn't enjoy it at all. The animation is amazing, but my problem is that I don't care much for anime that feels like it has ADHD (Hetalia, FLCL, etc.). If it were only 6 episodes, like FLCL, my opinion would be "it's alright," but 24 episodes in this style is something I just couldn't tolerate. Getting through this show was actual somewhat painful.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Moonfish on July 31, 2015, 05:49:43 PM
My kids and I are having a great time with "Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan"!   :)

(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac265/DokiNatsu/AnimeUpdates/Nura-Rise-Of-The-Yokai-Clan.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 31, 2015, 06:41:55 PM
My kids and I are having a great time with "Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan"!   :)

(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac265/DokiNatsu/AnimeUpdates/Nura-Rise-Of-The-Yokai-Clan.jpg)
Neat, never even heard of that one before.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 08, 2015, 07:09:21 PM
I don't feel too good...

The new DBZ movie isn't being shown anywhere near me in IMAX. The regular showings are an hour away and the nearest IMAX that shows it is an hour and a half away in some place I've never been to, and the only directions I'm getting to go there uses toll roads (which I avoid due to my extremely bad experiences with them).

This is the only movie in years that I've actually wanted to see enough to consider actually seeing in theaters... might just see the regular one, but it seems I'd be missing half the fun without IMAX. Or I could probably find it bootlegged online and save myself the drive. Yet another reason why I stay home and don't do stuff...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 19, 2015, 04:46:43 AM
(http://blog-imgs-51.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/1372513289229.jpg)
Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko

This show ultimately didn't make much sense and I enjoyed it more than I probably should have.

But then again, the reason why I watched it...

(http://image.dek-d.com/27/0345/2845/113900366)


I don't feel too good...

The new DBZ movie isn't being shown anywhere near me in IMAX. The regular showings are an hour away and the nearest IMAX that shows it is an hour and a half away in some place I've never been to, and the only directions I'm getting to go there uses toll roads (which I avoid due to my extremely bad experiences with them).

This is the only movie in years that I've actually wanted to see enough to consider actually seeing in theaters... might just see the regular one, but it seems I'd be missing half the fun without IMAX. Or I could probably find it bootlegged online and save myself the drive. Yet another reason why I stay home and don't do stuff...
I never mentioned that I ended up watching this? It was decent.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 19, 2015, 06:22:17 AM
I watched the first 3 episodes of Hunter x Hunter (2011) this morning. I can tell this will end up being one of my favorite shows.

At 148 episodes, it'll take a while to get through. I saw the original 62 episodes series about 7 years ago, which was great, though I don't remember much of it. The same guy who wrote the manga for YuYu Hakusho wrote the manga for this, so the story is guaranteed to be great. It's still being written, though, so it's likely that in a few years they will continue the anime. Probably the main thing that brought this show to my attention was its high score on MAL (#5 currently, was #3 for a while). It's the favorite show of my friend on that site. I've been eyeing this one for a while.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 19, 2015, 06:35:22 PM
Watched episode 1 of Aria the Animation.

Wow, if you want a show that just has an awesome vibe and is peaceful, here you go. I really liked it. And the start of the series is supposed to be nowhere near as good as the end (Aria the Origination).
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: vandermolen on September 20, 2015, 12:23:54 AM
I know nothing about Anime but some years ago one of my History students wrote her A Level coursework on 'The History of Japanese Anime Cinema' and obtained an A grade, which I thought was very impressive.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 20, 2015, 04:49:20 AM
I know nothing about Anime but some years ago one of my History students wrote her A Level coursework on 'The History of Japanese Anime Cinema' and obtained an A grade, which I thought was very impressive.
Cool... do you remember anything from it?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: vandermolen on September 20, 2015, 06:05:14 AM
Cool... do you remember anything from it?
No detail but I recall it being very well researched and written in a very academic way with detailed footnotes. Sorry I can't remember more but she probably related it to society. I enjoyed reading it and expect that the external examiner did too as it was so different from 'Mussolini's foreign policy' etc.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 22, 2015, 07:03:55 PM
I've already finished the first story arc of Hunter x Hunter (2011), and I've been totally hooked. The other 127 episodes of the show consists almost entirely of story arcs which are supposed to be even way better, which is hard to imagine.

Yoshihiro Togashi's wildly inventive mind just never ceases to amaze me. The episodes fly by so quickly because they are so entertaining and fascinating. The characters are very well though-out and distinct and the same goes for the scenarios they're involved in. Can't wait for the story arcs which are supposed to be even better!  ???
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 23, 2015, 06:15:53 PM
Haha, knew it before I even finished the test.

What is your Hunter x Hunter Nen type?

http://www.quotev.com/quiz/2088656/What-is-your-Nen-type/


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You are a Conjurer!

You are typically high-strung, often on guard as to be overly cautious. You are very observant and rarely fall into the traps. Being able to analyze things calmly is the strength of the conjuration of users.
Conjuration is the ability to create a physical, independent, material object out of one's aura. Once a person has mastered the conjuration of a certain object, they can conjure it and dispel it in an instant, whenever they want. Conjuration is the only way in which Nen can create things that ordinary people (unaware of Nen) can see and touch.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 25, 2015, 07:04:10 PM
Finished the Yorknew City arc in Hunter x Hunter (2011).

I had some difficulties enjoying it at first, but by the time it was over, I was just in awe. Such an intricate story, excellent character development, pacing, setting, etc. It's a tale of revenge, the mafia, and a group of assassins- not stuff I'm normally into, but the storytelling is just so masterful and creative that it's on a whole other level compared to anything else I've seen with those themes.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 04, 2015, 07:02:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/cYkx0TAIXWQ

I looked up the voice actress of K-On!

Wow... *wipes drool off floor* They're practically as adorable as the actual characters.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 22, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
So I finally finished all 148 episodes of Hunter x Hunter (2011).

To make this short: 9.5/10

I already mentioned the Yorknew City arc, but the Chimera Ant arc was also great. The main problem was the pacing, so it felt like a chore to get through all of it. It felt like getting through 200 episodes, rather than 60-something. Regardless, it was well worth watching. Togashi is the best at creating villains- not sure I can think of a more interesting villain than Meruem (Hisoka was also great). Probably only Toguro from Yu Yu Hakusho is on that level of interesting (again, conceived by Togashi). I'd say the highlight of the Chimera Ant arc was for me was Meruem's board games against Komugi, the blind girl.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 03, 2015, 12:00:04 PM
Anyone following Dragon Ball Super?

I just caught up with it. Everyone is complaining about Chichi being Chichi, as usual. The most obnoxious and unlikeable character- no wonder Goku is so eager to leave his family for years at a time and train.

I'm enjoying it despite the negative criticism of it and a couple poorly animated episodes.

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: The Six on November 05, 2015, 06:12:25 PM
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/bdabae892ecde325c88223455f4d903e/tumblr_nvmvleZjqG1s71q1zo1_r1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 05, 2015, 06:24:37 PM
So I can't find a link and that looks like it couldn't possibly be real with that ratio of dislikes to likes. The craziest ratio I've ever seen on youtube so far was an ABC news broadcast on Gamergate (57k dislikes, 1k likes). And this one is 1.3 million to 235?  :-X

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 19, 2015, 05:51:14 PM
Finished Charlotte, aka "Wasted Potential and Plotholes: The Anime."

This show could have been really good, though it would require a lot of work. IMO, doing something like making it at least 24 episodes, stretching the theme of very last episode across the last 12 of those episodes and trashing the awkward episode 7 might be a good first start. The ideas are awesome, but such poor execution. Basically all of the criticisms from those who didn't enjoy Angel Beats (these both were created by the same guy) I felt applied to this show, even though I really liked Angel Beats and thought nothing of the criticisms of it.

I've been watching anime on my 3DS, which I've found is the best way to watch. I have a long list of anime I want to get through lol...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 21, 2015, 04:28:14 PM
Yesterday finished Nanatsu no Taizai (The Seven Deadly Sins). Very fun, short fantasy shounen. It has the sort of quick pacing that is quick but not so quick that it nearly gives me a headache (FLCL and Kill la Kill do that to me). Highly enjoyable.

Watching Ergo Proxy, on episode 9 now but should be done by the end of the day tomorrow. This show is truly something special. Not only is it just relentlessly bleak and desolate, but many say is difficult to understand the entire show. The show just doesn't provide enough information, so you have to figure out yourself all of the details that are going on. IMO, the plot is understandable, but some details and occurrences will leave you scratching your head. But that's the fun part of it.

And how can you not like this poster?  8)

(http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/11/6259.jpg)

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 22, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Finished Ergo Proxy.


See why this show is difficult? Just look at the explanation for the last episode:

Quote
For those of you that don't get it:

SPOILER
SPOILER
SPOILER

 Ergo Proxy AKA Vincent Law is Double put in place by Proxy One when he came to the revelation that the original humans planned for the proxies to restore humanity on earth and then be destroyed. But Ergo sought out comfort from his loneliness as a Proxy with Monad Proxy (The proxy that created the Mosk dome city), Ergo left the city in order to be with her leaving Mayer in charge of Romdo.

But just like Proxy One, Ergo Proxy struggled with the purpose of his existence and in the end couldn't come to terms with it. Monad Proxy helped him escape it all by absorbing his memories and allowing him to forget and become Vincent Law (even the name Vincent Law means "to conquer order"). This left Monad unstable and in a semi-coma. After a awhile Mayer figured out that without a Proxy's presence the city would start to die off, feeling betrayed Mayer attacked Mosk and captured the now vulnerable Monad Proxy.

Without an active Proxy the Mosk Dome fell apart over time and Ergo Proxy in the human form of Vincent Law left Mosk with the human refugees. At some point during all this, Daedalus acting on Mayer's orders created Re-l, a human clone of Monad proxy in an attempt to create a Proxy He could control as part of system, it should also be noted that judging by the rapid growth rate of Real (yet another Proxy Clone only far less human with far more of the original Monad leftover) that Re-l might not be all that old.

When Vincent law came to Romdo Monad proxy was drawn to him breaking free and seeking him out, well Ergo was drawn to Re-l for similar reasons. But in their feral states Ergo killed Monad, leading to the rest of the story.

Proxy One wants to end it all by doing the only thing that would mean anything at all, ending everything including the experiment that he himself is a part of.

Real is instinctively holding on to both the affection Monad Proxy felt for Ergo & her function as a part of the Proxy soultion and is trying to end the Proxies and their pain. In the end she destroys herself to finish the plan.

The series is asking the philosophical Questions: Do I exist? What am I? Why am I here? and how can I know the truth of these questions?

Proxy One is the Nihilistic answer "The only act that has meaning is the one that ends all others"

Monad/Real is the fatalist answer "We are here to fulfill a predetermined purpose nothing more"

Ergo and Re-l are reflections of these two answers, taking the original's objective views and discarding them in place of relativism. "Every action has meaning for they shape us into who we are, and this is the only truth we call our own. We cannot choose what we are but we can effect whom we will become."

Regardless, it's an incredible show. 9/10.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 26, 2015, 07:05:46 PM
My new MyAnimeList profile:

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/ibanezmonster

 8)

What I'm going to do, unlike before, is to drop any anime I don't like. If I set a goal such as: completely watch all of the anime that are worth watching, then I have the best long-term weapon for battling my recurring depression/lack of energy.

The only thing I've found to give my mind life and not feel like a melted marshmallow is do something that is both 1) fun and 2) goal-oriented at the same time. My idea a while ago was to watch as many anime as possible. However, that means wasting time with many I don't like, which isn't fun, so it didn't work.

I've been using this strategy the last few weeks, and it has been helping me feel better. Nothing quite like the rush you get from marathoning a good show and finishing it. Deviating from this plan... hasn't worked too well.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Henk on November 27, 2015, 12:17:44 PM
Greg, realize that it is (probably with you as well) masturbating (and collecting pics in my case as well) that makes life sad. That's the first step to a better life. One does not have to end it (because it is a consolation as well), but don't let the sadness control your life.

Just make sure you succeed in life instead.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 27, 2015, 02:29:03 PM
Um... pretty sure that's just your problem lol. Nothing sad about that IMO. What's sad is how ridiculously boring and unfulfilling school and work are.

I'm pretty sure that even if I had the most perfect woman in the world, my mind would end up like that, regardless. The only thing that keeps me happy seems to be continuously striving toward something new and exciting.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 27, 2015, 04:26:41 PM
I found something interesting. From a site called "anikore," which is a Japanese equivalent of MyAnimeList. These are the top rated anime, according to just Japanese people.

Quote
1   Steins;Gate   92.7
2   Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2   92.6
3   Bakemonogatari   92.4
3   Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch   92.4
3   Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex   92.4
6   Clannad: After Story   92.3
7   Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu   92.1
8   Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai   91.8
9   Fate/Zero   91.3
10   K-On!!   91.2
11   Chihayafuru   91.1
12   Eureka Seven   91.0
13   Toradora   90.9
14   Shingeki no Kyojin   90.8
15   Sword Art Online   90.7
15   Cowboy Bebop   90.7
17   Angel Beats!   90.6
18   Toaru Kagaku no Railgun   90.4
18   Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica   90.4
18   Hyouka   90.4
21   Neon Genesis Evangelion   90.3
21   Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann   90.3
23   Hanasaku Iroha   90.2
23   Natsume Yuujinchou   90.2
23   Black Lagoon   90.2
26   Clannad   90.1
26   Nisemonogatari   90.1
28   Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG   89.9
29   Usagi Drop   89.8
29   Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood   89.8
29   Gintama   89.8
29   Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa   89.8
33   K-On!   89.7
33   Nagi no Asukara   89.7
33   Kaze no Tani no Nausicaä   89.7
36   Ookami to Koushinryou   89.6
37   Durarara!!   89.5
38   Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru   89.3
38   Planetes   89.3
40   Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu   89.2
41   Mononoke Hime   89.1
42   Psycho-Pass   89.0
42   Macross Frontier   89.0
44   Ga-Rei: Zero   88.9
45   Working'!!   88.8
46   Working!!   88.7
46   Hataraku Maou-sama!   88.7
48   Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo   88.6
48   Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo   88.6
50   Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!   88.5
51   Higurashi no Naku Koro ni   88.4
52   Darker than Black: Kuro no Keiyakusha   88.3
53   Tiger & Bunny   88.2
54   Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai   88.1
54   True Tears   88.1
56   Kokoro Connect   88.0
56   Kimi no Todoke   88.0
58   Toaru Majutsu no Index   87.9
58   Toaru Majutsu no Index II   87.9
58   Guilty Crown   87.9
61   Higashi no Eden   87.8
61   K-On! Movie   87.8
63   Nichijou   87.7
64   Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai II   87.6
64   Byousuke 5 Centimeter   87.6
66   Ookami to Koushinryou II   87.5
67   Minami-ke   87.4
67   No Game No Life   87.4
69   Tari Tari   87.3
70   Another   87.2
70   Mirai Nikki   87.2
70   Baccano   87.2
73   Kaleido Star   87.1
74   Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu   87.0
74   Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou   87.0
74   Katanagatari   87.0
74   Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou   87.0
74   Elfen Lied   87.0
79   Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai   86.9
80   Saki   86.8
81   Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai   86.7
81   Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai Next   86.7
81   Summer Wars   86.7
81   Natsume Yuujinchou San   86.7
85   Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu Ni!   86.6
86   Lucky☆Star   86.5
86   Death Note   86.5
88   Juuni Kokuki   86.4
89   Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu   86.2
90   Monogatari Series: Second Season   86.0
90   Tonari no Totoro   86.0
92   ef: A Tale of Memories   85.7
93   Fate/Zero 2nd Season   85.6
93   Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei   85.6
95   Seitokai Yakuindomo   85.5
95   Air   85.5
95   Mobile Suit Gundam Seed   85.5
98   Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai.   85.4
98   Mushishi   85.4
100   Majo no Takkyuubin   85.3

And here's the top for the Western world:
http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?_location=FB_link

Couple observations: in the Japanese version
shockingly high:
Bakemonogatari, K-On!!, Working!, Mirai Nikki, Elfen Lied, Hyouka, Ga-Rei Zero
Ore no Imouto is #1244 for the West, #98 for Japan!  ???

shockingly low:
FMA: Brotherhood, Gintama. High spots, but not considered the very best in Japan.

-Legend of the Galactic Heroes at #9 for the west, used to dominate the top spot years ago, but not even in the top 100 for Japan.

If there is any trend, it seems like the Japanese have more of a taste for melodrama?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on November 28, 2015, 05:32:45 PM
Code Geass is way too high on that list! What about Higurashi no naku koro ni so low down??? Imo they should be swapped positions. Nice to see Lucky Star on there though hahaaa
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 28, 2015, 08:35:07 PM
Code Geass is way too high on that list! What about Higurashi no naku koro ni so low down??? Imo they should be swapped positions. Nice to see Lucky Star on there though hahaaa
Actually, the Japanese rate Higurashi quite a bit higher than Western audiences. I might even say, looking at this list, my tastes are slightly more aligned with the Japanese.

Code Geass, though, is going to be near the top on any site. It's definitely in the top 15 for me, but it sounds like you didn't care for it.  :P



Made a few more observations looking at that list and always going to that site (knowing enough Japanese to navigate it is always helpful)

Add to that, for Japan:

shockingly high: Baka and Test, Ghost in the Shell
shockingly low: Mushishi

Not even on the list. Wow. The left site is the MAL rankings, the right side in parenthesis is the anikore rankings:
5. Hunter x Hunter (2011) (603)
9. Legend of the Galactic Heroes (112)
13. Shigatsu wa Kimi no Us
20. Hajime no Ippo
26. Great Teacher Onizuka
33. Monster (308)
34. Bakuman 3
40. Ping Pong the Animation
49. Rainbow
58. One Piece (103)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 21, 2016, 03:31:38 PM
Best ED song in recent times? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPABBsm9ND4)

I have lately found myself enjoying this genre of entertainment. Many brilliant short series such as Erased which I watched pretty much in one day...a little bit predictable, but the element of pathos throughout this series took me on an emotional roller coaster ride I will not forget.

Currently watching Steins;Gate, which I like very much.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 21, 2016, 05:15:07 PM
Brilliant article about the popular Miyazaki film 'Spirited Away.' (http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/spirited-away-ghibli-miyazaki-15th-15-year-anniversary-best-animation-hannah-ewens?utm_source=dmfb)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 25, 2016, 06:15:42 AM
I'll definitely be giving Les Noces a spin this afternoon! Looking forward to it. :)
NOPE I DID NOT EVEN LISTEN TO THIS TODAY OMG I JUST WATCHED EPISODES 12 THROUGH TO 24 OF STEINS;GATE I CAN'T BELIEVE I PUT THIS ANIME OFF FOR SO LONG OMG WHAT EVEN IS LIFE
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 25, 2016, 10:24:50 PM
Steins;Gate 0 is coming! Looking forward to its release............ (http://myanimelist.net/anime/30484/Steins_Gate_0)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on August 07, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
Cool list, and even cooler because I've seen half of them, and now would love to see the other half...

15 Must Watch Forgotten Anime Films

http://screenrant.com/forgotten-anime-films/
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on August 07, 2016, 04:27:34 PM
Imaginary Worlds Podcast about one of my favorite films of all time, Ghost in the Shell. Also covers the recent casting of Scarlett Johansson in the lead role in the live action remake, and it's whitewashing controversy, although it covers some interesting angles regarding that issue...

Imaginary Worlds: Episode 45, Ghost in the Shelll

http://www.imaginaryworldspodcast.org/ghost-in-the-shell.html
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on August 07, 2016, 05:26:24 PM
Cool list, and even cooler because I've seen half of them, and now would love to see the other half...

15 Must Watch Forgotten Anime Films

http://screenrant.com/forgotten-anime-films/
The Cat Returns is hardly a 'forgotten' anime film. What certainly is less well known is the film which first introduces the baron....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on August 09, 2016, 02:11:23 AM
SIGH

My life has become pretty much like what Okazaki's life is in the first season of Clannad.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on August 09, 2016, 05:18:08 PM
I think this would be the easiest anime cosplay

(https://k60.kn3.net/taringa/0/0/7/D/5/6/KlankyV-ZZ/9BA.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on August 12, 2016, 07:32:10 PM
Lolololololololololol i finished Clannad it was so cute! I must watch Clannad After Story now
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Abuelo Igor on August 14, 2016, 12:30:25 AM

15 Must Watch Forgotten Anime Films


I fail to see what is "forgotten" about any of them. With the exception of "Mind game", all of them have had good distribution in Spain, which doesn't have a particularly strong anime culture when compared to most countries in Western Europe.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on August 29, 2016, 06:31:15 AM
Rewatching Death Note. Most enjoyable. I think I liked more Light's chemistry with L than him vs Near/Mello (as awesome a character as Mello still is), though.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on August 29, 2016, 06:49:22 AM
I fail to see what is "forgotten" about any of them. With the exception of "Mind game", all of them have had good distribution in Spain, which doesn't have a particularly strong anime culture when compared to most countries in Western Europe.

 i agree, I should've clarified that I mainly liked the list of movies, not so much agree with the forgotten part.
I do love Metropolis and Sky Crawlers, may have to find those in my library and re watch soon!

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on September 06, 2016, 03:50:57 PM
Rewatching Death Note. Most enjoyable. I think I liked more Light's chemistry with L than him vs Near/Mello (as awesome a character as Mello still is), though.

The last season of Death Note isn't all that popular due to the new characters I think........
Death Note still has one of my favourite endings however, regardless of what some people complain about it!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on September 09, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
The last season of Death Note isn't all that popular due to the new characters I think........
Death Note still has one of my favourite endings however, regardless of what some people complain about it!

I have to agree with the opinion that Light's chemistry with L was much more interesting than with Near. Not that I actually hated Near, I merely prefer L. And Mello actually had the honor of being for some time my avatar picture. At first I didn't even like him that much but after he gets that scar of his I turned into a fanboy. I'm also probably the only person in existence who likes Misa. I harbor a weird affection for Ide, a character that doesn't appear very often on people's favorite lists. I just think he's absolutely hilarious in his stoicness, at least in the manga (it almost feels like he appears in the anime much less often).

Edit: I just basically repeated what I said in my previous post. Silly me :X

Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on September 11, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
I've been watching Steins;Gate again but this time with my sister. Just finished watching episode 12, that crucial halfway point where things take a dramatic turn and take her biggest cliffhanger in the whole series! Now I shall make her wat until Saturday (when I am free again to watch more) to resolve this cliffhanger. :D
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: SharpEleventh on September 12, 2016, 02:14:34 AM
I have watched plenty of anime but I would never admit that on a classical music forum. I-it's not like I li-like them or anything....
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on September 12, 2016, 02:16:45 AM
I have watched plenty of anime but I would never admit that on a classical music forum. I-it's not like I li-like them or anything....
What have you seen and can you recommend me any high school romance/slice of life ones that would make me cry?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: SharpEleventh on September 12, 2016, 02:55:21 AM
What have you seen and can you recommend me any high school romance/slice of life ones that would make me cry?

Make you cry? I'm not generally speaking into stuff like that. I like Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, which is a (black) comedy set in a high school. Not a "makes you cry" type of anime though.... in the usual sense, at least.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on October 10, 2016, 03:10:40 AM
Clannad After story is PERFECT IN EVERY WAY omg omg omg omg omg *tears streaming*
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on October 10, 2016, 03:11:01 AM
DANGO DANGO DANGO DANGO DANGO DAIKAZOKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on October 10, 2016, 04:32:01 AM
10 hours of dango.....
https://youtu.be/ZTebP--od7w
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: SharpEleventh on November 15, 2016, 01:49:28 PM
Ravel was a weeb. Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI8EP-nJflE
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on November 15, 2016, 02:05:35 PM
Ravel was a weeb. Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI8EP-nJflE
Ravel was featured in one of the last episodes of Clannad.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 29, 2016, 04:04:35 PM
Anyone watch any good anime lately?



Just finished Your Lie in April.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/23273/Shigatsu_wa_Kimi_no_Uso


Even though it had such great ratings (#17 on MAL), I didn't watch it immediately because stuff like teen melodrama and a music-centered show don't normally appeal to me (as much as the latter might be a surprise). But the characters are really great, at least, the main two.

The main character meets a violinist who teaches him how to play piano performances with more expression, unlike the mechanic, "true to the score" method that his mom would teach him. And he has to cope with this problem of not being able to hear himself playing after he plays piano for a few minutes.

I could see where this show was going, but still very enjoyable, nonetheless. Great animation and direction.

Definitely going to buy a figurine of Kaori sometime...

(https://myanimelist.cdn-dena.com/images/anime/3/67177.webp)


(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/513UxsuT9CL._SX425_.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 29, 2016, 04:20:16 PM
^^^^^^^^^^I will definitely be checking this one out!

I am still exploring some of the highly regarded series which are a few years older, and mainly shorter ones like Madoka Magica. How many episodes is Your Lie in April?
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on December 29, 2016, 06:31:24 PM
^^^^^^^^^^I will definitely be checking this one out!

I am still exploring some of the highly regarded series which are a few years older, and mainly shorter ones like Madoka Magica. How many episodes is Your Lie in April?
22 episodes, plus one special episode.

Wow, just scrolled up and saw this:

What have you seen and can you recommend me any high school romance/slice of life ones that would make me cry?
haha, you'll love this!


A couple others that may somewhat fit that description:
-Ano Hana
-Toradora
-ERASED
-Kokoro Connect


Madoka Magica is a classic, though idk why, but I still have difficulty understanding the details of the storyline even though I watched both the series and the movies. (The third movie is kind of a sequel to the first two). It's the favorite series of a friend of mine.

I'm looking forward to Gintama and especially KonoSuba for the new season. The first season had me dying of laughter. Up there with Saiki K., Nichijou, Gintama and Shimoneta for top comedies.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 29, 2016, 06:33:21 PM
22 episodes, plus one special episode.

Wow, just scrolled up and saw this:
haha, you'll love this!


A couple others that may somewhat fit that description:
-Ano Hana
-Toradora
-ERASED
-Kokoro Connect


Madoka Magica is a classic, though idk why, but I still have difficulty understanding the details of the storyline even though I watched both the series and the movies. (The third movie is kind of a sequel to the first two). It's the favorite series of a friend of mine.

I'm looking forward to Gintama and especially KonoSuba for the new season. The first season had me dying of laughter. Up there with Saiki K., Nichijou, Gintama and Shimoneta for top comedies.

Thanks! Erased was actually what rekindled my interest in anime this year. I watched Anohana as well.....but I will add the others to my list :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Spineur on February 11, 2017, 02:42:53 PM
I learned the death of Jirô Taniguchi....Sadness...
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: aligreto on March 28, 2017, 09:10:09 AM
The Garden of Words....


(https://s3.thcdn.com/productimg/600/600/10891988-1904402085299794.jpg)


This is a superlative piece of anime. The detail in the animation is astounding. This is a short film at 46 minutes duration but one never feels that one is short changed, even for a moment. Simply wonderful.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on March 28, 2017, 06:30:11 PM
The Garden of Words....


(https://s3.thcdn.com/productimg/600/600/10891988-1904402085299794.jpg)


This is a superlative piece of anime. The detail in the animation is astounding. This is a short film at 46 minutes duration but one never feels that one is short changed, even for a moment. Simply wonderful.
That was a good one.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on March 28, 2017, 06:55:19 PM
The Garden of Words....


(https://s3.thcdn.com/productimg/600/600/10891988-1904402085299794.jpg)


This is a superlative piece of anime. The detail in the animation is astounding. This is a short film at 46 minutes duration but one never feels that one is short changed, even for a moment. Simply wonderful.

I noticed it was from the same director as Voices of a Distant Star, which at only 25 minutes I still consider one of the best Anime's I've ever seen.


Title: Re: Anime
Post by: aligreto on March 29, 2017, 08:44:30 AM
I noticed it was from the same director as Voices of a Distant Star, which at only 25 minutes I still consider one of the best Anime's I've ever seen.




Yes indeed. Also, if you have not seen it I thoroughly recommend 5 centimeters per second. It is a marathon for Shinkai at 60 minutes running time. I plan to watch it again in the not too distant future....


(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51aREHZScdL.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on March 29, 2017, 08:48:09 AM
Yes indeed. Also, if you have not seen it I thoroughly recommend 5 centimeters per second. It is a marathon for Shinkai at 60 minutes running time. I plan to watch it again in the not too distant future....


(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51aREHZScdL.jpg)

Awesome, I'll definitely check them out. It's been a while since I've watched a good anime series or film. Last one I believe was Attack on Titan, which I really enjoyed!
Maybe enjoyed is not the right word for giant-human-looking creatures eating the heads off of other human-sized humans.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: aligreto on March 29, 2017, 08:51:03 AM
Awesome, I'll definitely check them out. It's been a while since I've watched a good anime series or film. Last one I believe was Attack on Titan, which I really enjoyed!
Maybe enjoyed is not the right word for giant-human-looking creatures eating the heads off of other human-sized humans.  :laugh:

Cheers. 5 centimeters is a bit depressing/sad but makes for wonderful viewing IMHO, hence it is on my watch list again  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on March 29, 2017, 09:09:10 AM
Last one I believe was Attack on Titan, which I really enjoyed!
Maybe enjoyed is not the right word for giant-human-looking creatures eating the heads off of other human-sized humans.  :laugh:

Season 2 is around the corner.  :) Cannot wait how they'll decide to handle some of the plot elements in the manga.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on March 29, 2017, 10:14:37 AM
Season 2 is around the corner.  :) Cannot wait how they'll decide to handle some of the plot elements in the manga.

I didn't realize there were more seasons on the way! I was actually content with the season one ending, but I'm anxious now to see where it goes. Thanks, Alberich!
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on March 29, 2017, 02:52:11 PM
You're welcome. :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 09, 2017, 06:22:05 PM
Currently watching this season:
-DB Super
-Attack on Titan season 2
-Boku no Hero Academia season 2


It's so weird, with me and Attack on Titan. When I finished watching it a few years ago, I thought that was one of the best shows I've ever watched. But now I barely have an interest in it. I barely remember most of it.

I guess some shows have an immediate impact, but don't invade your thoughts much years later, unlike some other shows. There's even some shows, like Musaigen no Phantom World, which I dismissed as not very good, but in retrospect, was quite an enjoyable show to watch. Just weird how that works.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on April 10, 2017, 05:42:44 AM
Greg, one reason for your lack of interest in AoT could be that the story arc which season 2 covers, "clash of the titans", is not always regarded as the best story arc ever in the manga. I like it just fine but I am not surprised to see that kind of response. No hostile intention or anything, it is always refreshing to see a different point of view.  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: greg on April 10, 2017, 03:07:06 PM
Greg, one reason for your lack of interest in AoT could be that the story arc which season 2 covers, "clash of the titans", is not always regarded as the best story arc ever in the manga. I like it just fine but I am not surprised to see that kind of response. No hostile intention or anything, it is always refreshing to see a different point of view.  :)
Actually, it's not about that at all for me. The first 2 episodes of this season have been pretty good, it's just that getting back into that world and with those characters is a bit jarring because of: 1) waiting so long and 2) none of the characters really made a long-term impression on me.

I bet if I had re-watched the entire 1st season right before this season, I'd be overloaded with hype.  :)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: aligreto on April 30, 2017, 10:16:30 PM
Patema Inverted....


(http://kamiyas-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Patema-Inverted-Cover-300x370.jpg)


I really liked the concept of this one.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: aligreto on June 06, 2017, 12:13:34 AM
5 Centimeters Per Second....


(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81F%2BhDip9RL._SY445_.jpg)


A series of short, interconnected films about lost love. Sad.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on July 13, 2017, 06:32:33 AM
Shingeki no kyojin - Attack on Titan season 3 coming in 2018.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: aligreto on December 27, 2017, 04:25:38 AM
From Up On Poppy Hill....


(http://images.mymovies.net/images/film/cin/350x522/fid13063.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on July 17, 2018, 09:06:57 AM
Season 3 of Attack on titan is around the corner.
Title: Re: Anime
Post by: TheGSMoeller on July 17, 2018, 10:22:43 AM
Season 3 of Attack on titan is around the corner.

Only watched Season 1, which I loved. I have some catching up to do!
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Post by: AlberichUndHagen on December 15, 2019, 07:16:22 AM
Berserk. Pure awesomeness!
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Post by: greg on December 17, 2019, 04:45:58 PM
Berserk. Pure awesomeness!
The new one?

Finished Kaichou wa Maid-Sama (Student Council President is a Maid) last week. Enjoyable romcom.
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Post by: AlberichUndHagen on December 18, 2019, 12:35:45 AM
The new one?

No, the 1997 one. The new one is crap. Reading the manga also.
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Post by: greg on December 18, 2019, 09:47:44 AM
No, the 1997 one. The new one is crap. Reading the manga also.
Oh ok. I want to read the manga but it being yet another series with no end in sight is a big turn off.

It's still the top rated manga, ever, though, and seems that won't change any time soon.
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Post by: greg on December 21, 2019, 07:41:25 PM
I thought of something and wonder if it exists- some sort of fusion between manga and light novel.

Basically a light novel but visually basically a manga.

LNs tend to have scrolling text and recycled character images over recycled backgrounds. Imagine reading a manga and it comes to life with sound, music and voice acting, while every panel is unique.  0:)
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Post by: greg on April 28, 2020, 05:00:37 PM
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Third viewing complete.  :D

Finally watched an analysis video... and sort of did make more sense. This time I watched the actual blu rays, so this makes the first anime series that I actually purchased a physical copy of. Will get around to doing the same for my top 20 or so series, since it is inevitable that every few years I will want to revisit old shows for the rest of my life- and having to hunt them down on websites and such sort of sucks.

One idea from the show caught me this time- about humans being the nodes in a neural network for the earth itself.

How can you not like the aesthetics of the cover?  8)
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Post by: Roy Bland on April 28, 2020, 05:26:54 PM
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Post by: greg on April 29, 2020, 05:07:49 AM
Ha, that's interesting. Is it part of the Galaxy Express 999 series?
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Post by: Roy Bland on April 29, 2020, 04:19:32 PM
Ha, that's interesting. Is it part of the Galaxy Express 999 series?
Partially Matsumoto like S.King created a multiverse where same character played different roles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seWFTBEMXao
It's largely ispired to Wagner's Opera.
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Post by: greg on September 18, 2020, 08:11:52 PM
Demon Slayer

(https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1286/99889.jpg)

Great dark action show. Thankfully the manga is finished and according to what people are saying, it will have probably have a 3 or so more seasons, which is enough to look forward to but not an unreasonable length like a lot of these types of shows.

It also won the 2020 Crunchyroll anime of the year award...
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Post by: AlberichUndHagen on September 29, 2020, 07:48:37 AM
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Post by: greg on September 29, 2020, 10:22:41 AM
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Classic!  8)
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Post by: greg on September 29, 2020, 06:52:03 PM
Bought a bunch of favorite anime series on Blu ray lately.

Rewatching Ergo Proxy now, I remembered barely anything of it, but on rewatch it is pretty good still.

Rewatched Kara no Kyoukai Garden of Sinners on Crunchyroll, another good one.

And the remake for my #1 favorite anime Higurashi When They Cry is set to start airing in a day or two. 😎
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Post by: AlberichUndHagen on October 01, 2020, 05:36:21 AM
Classic!  8)

 :) I like it very much so far, although not as much as Berserk. The cathedral scene in episode 5 was absolutely perfect.
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Post by: greg on October 05, 2020, 07:33:43 PM
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Finished rewatch.

Definitely a one-of-a-kind show, a fun ride and unique dark, futuristic dystopian world.

The last two or so episodes are a bit confusing, leaving all the explanations at the end but it's too much at once.

Some of the filler episodes some people don't care for, but I think they are great, really trippy stuff.


Originally scored a 9/10 when I watched it years ago, and would keep the same score.
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Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 06, 2020, 10:11:35 AM
Your Name.
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Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 06, 2020, 11:33:11 AM
A Silent Voice.
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Post by: greg on October 06, 2020, 12:09:50 PM
Those are both good ones, and they remind me of each other (also maybe because they are currently #10 and #11 highest ranked on MAL, same score at 9.01).

They remind me of Ghibli movies in the sense that they are good for a relaxing watch with good art and good story, though they don't scratch my itch for more intense experiences, so usually that type of movie I'll watch every once in a while and then move on.
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Post by: greg on December 20, 2020, 09:28:28 PM
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That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime

Very fun show, enjoyable take on the isekai genre, not much to say besides that.

(https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1234/102008.jpg)
Beastars
Not into furry stuff so was hesitant about this one.
But it really was as great as others are saying. Endless comparisons can be made with things such as people groups. Very hilarious and weird scenarios, lots of weird emotions are possible in a show like this compared to any other show with human characters.

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Kill la Kill
I watched this years ago, but at the time I wasn't really into it. Didn't even finish the last few episodes and gave it a 5/10.
This time, enjoyed it a lot and gave it an 8/10.
Though I've always respected what it was trying to do- a really unique combination of goofy comedy, nonstop rage, wild animation and sexiness.
This show is just unbridled mania, not much out there quite like this.
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Post by: AlberichUndHagen on December 21, 2020, 09:16:33 AM
Final season of Attack on titan started a couple weeks ago.
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Post by: greg on December 21, 2020, 11:14:40 AM
Final season of Attack on titan started a couple weeks ago.
Yeah... watching that... along with 8 other anime for this upcoming season starting next month.

Problem is after season one, probably because of the large time gap between season one and two, I completely got lost about the plot and I'm just watching it for the sake of completion.

I'll have to rewatch the whole show from beginning to end marathon style one day to make sense of things.
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Post by: Roy Bland on December 22, 2020, 06:20:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD4b4j7tFg
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Post by: Ganondorf on October 12, 2021, 02:10:03 PM
I recently finished watching Monster and I liked how ambiguous It was, especially the ending. The character development was top-notch. My favorite characters were Grimmer and Eva Heinemann. I was surprised how shadowy presence Johan was for the most of The anime, however he was in the end very intriguing character, full of complexities despite his horrifying deeds much like Griffith from Berserk. Although Griffith is Even better-written. Johans final question was haunting. The context in fact makes It very ambiguous who The real monster is.
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Post by: greg on October 12, 2021, 06:39:42 PM
I recently finished watching Monster and I liked how ambiguous It was, especially the ending. The character development was top-notch. My favorite characters were Grimmer and Eva Heinemann. I was surprised how shadowy presence Johan was for the most of The anime, however he was in the end very intriguing character, full of complexities despite his horrifying deeds much like Griffith from Berserk. Although Griffith is Even better-written. Johans final question was haunting. The context in fact makes It very ambiguous who The real monster is.
Monster is one of my favorites. Watched it about a decade ago and the only reason I haven't rewatched yet is the length, but will one day!
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Post by: vers la flamme on October 13, 2021, 02:50:06 AM
Your Name.

My old roommate loved this movie and made me watch it with him once a few years ago. I remember it being real good, though I don't remember clearly what it's about.
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Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 15, 2021, 05:29:31 AM
Demon Slayer

(https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1286/99889.jpg)

Great dark action show. Thankfully the manga is finished and according to what people are saying, it will have probably have a 3 or so more seasons, which is enough to look forward to but not an unreasonable length like a lot of these types of shows.

It also won the 2020 Crunchyroll anime of the year award...

For Demon Slayer fans...
Season 2 is starting, or at least a new 7-episode arc of Mugen Train featuring Kyojuro Rengoku has started. The trailer seemed to separate the season 2 start and this arc, but as a fan of the Mugen Train movie this excites me, Rengoku is a great character and made a big impact so getting more of his story should be good.
My son has read all of the Demon Slayer Manga, 23 volumes I think, and says that the best is yet to come!
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Post by: greg on October 15, 2021, 07:17:07 AM
For Demon Slayer fans...
Season 2 is starting, or at least a new 7-episode arc of Mugen Train featuring Kyojuro Rengoku has started. The trailer seemed to separate the season 2 start and this arc, but as a fan of the Mugen Train movie this excites me, Rengoku is a great character and made a big impact so getting more of his story should be good.
My son has read all of the Demon Slayer Manga, 23 volumes I think, and says that the best is yet to come!
Huh, thanks.
I was aware of the next season but not of this new 7-episode arc, since it wasn't listed for this season.
The movie was great, watched it in theaters. But will check this out as well since it's saying it will contain more scenes.