Bruckner's Abbey

[DavidW]

I mentioned that Jochum 4 and 9 introduced me to Bruckner.  Well the second cd I bought was the Skrowaczeski 7 for $5 because it was on the bargain label Arte Nova (this is also well before Hurwitz would sing its praises btw)

[Cato]

A good number of years ago, we had an epic* blind-listening survey about the best Symphony #6 recording.

I think Stanislas Skrowaczewski came in very high!

i.e. It took a good number of weeks and a good number of members were involved!

I found the link: from 2014!!!

https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,23157.720.html


The winner:

And the winner is...

F1
First Place



Sergiu Celibidache
Munich Philharmonic Orchestra

Those of us in the Church of Saint Eugen Jochum begged to differ!   

[DavidW]

What a surprise that neither Jochum recording made it!  I like that Klemperer made it to the top.  I haven't heard Wand nor Celibidache in the 6th.  Guess I'll have to give them a try.

[Cato]

What a surprise that neither Jochum recording made it!  I like that Klemperer made it to the top.  I haven't heard Wand nor Celibidache in the 6th.  Guess I'll have to give them a try.

I was shocked about the Jochum decision, but...thus spake the jury!   

Yes: the Guenter Wand effort was excellent!

[vers la flamme]

Interesting, I love the 6th, I will have to hear that Celibidache. I do love his 4th, though I have my doubts that the style he employs would be as effective in all of the symphonies.

[JBS]

Interesting, I love the 6th, I will have to hear that Celibidache. I do love his 4th, though I have my doubts that the style he employs would be as effective in all of the symphonies.

De Gustibus! De Gustibus!

I thought Celibadache's Fourth was horrible...however his Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth sounded very good to me.

ATM I'm listening to Gielen's recording of the Third as part of a repeat traversal of his Bruckner cycle. At least for the first three symphonies he does an excellent job.

[Cato]

Recently I was talking with a friend about Bruckner and the original version-vs.-revised-version topic came up.

Georg Tintner makes a very good for the original of the Third Symphony!

Highly recommended!

[DavidW]

Recently I was talking with a friend about Bruckner and the original version-vs.-revised-version topic came up.

Georg Tintner makes a very good for the original of the Third Symphony!

Highly recommended!

Tinter got me into the third and remains my favorite.

[foxandpeng]

Tinter got me into the third and remains my favorite.

Mine too...

[Cato]

This is from an Anton-Bruckner website, and contains a download of a "mystery" recording of the Symphony #4.


https://www.abruckner.com//downloads/downloadofthemonth/june23/

[Cato]

A very enthusiastic fan (some might consider him too enthusiastic) has placed this on YouTube:

[vers la flamme]

A very enthusiastic fan (some might consider him too enthusiastic) has placed this on YouTube:

I watched that, but not sure I agreed with his assessment of the music; or at least he's listening to Bruckner for different reasons than I am.

[DavidW]

I watched that, but not sure I agreed with his assessment of the music; or at least he's listening to Bruckner for different reasons than I am.

But... but... each note is an exploration of the sheer force that music can carry!      

It is truly APOCALYPTIC!  

Oh man it is so over the top.  I also like how the person who wrote the script is not the person reading it out.  Youtube has truly gone from honest video essays from the everyman to high production videos from people looking to make a career out of it.

[brewski]

But... but... each note is an exploration of the sheer force that music can carry!      

It is truly APOCALYPTIC!  

Oh man it is so over the top.  I also like how the person who wrote the script is not the person reading it out.  Youtube has truly gone from honest video essays from the everyman to high production videos from people looking to make a career out of it.

I'm listening now, and can't guarantee I will bail before it's over—though it's scarcely 15 minutes. 

Perhaps some reassurance, though, that even as an avid Bruckner fan, I haven't gone over the edge. 

-Bruce

[brewski]

I'm listening now, and can't guarantee I will bail before it's over—though it's scarcely 15 minutes. 

Perhaps some reassurance, though, that even as an avid Bruckner fan, I haven't gone over the edge. 

-Bruce

Aaaannnd...about halfway through, I couldn't take it anymore. When he started the analysis (or "analysis") of the Eighth, I asked, "Why am I watching this?" and couldn't come up with an answer.

Still, fascinating to see something from the far end of the Bruckner Appreciation Spectrum Society (BASS, which I just made up).

-Bruce

[Wanderer]

(BASS, which I just made up).

-Bruce

NAIS! (New Acronym Identification Survey)

[brewski]

NAIS! (New Acronym Identification Survey)

 

-Bruce

[lunar22]

Georg Tintner makes a very good for the original of the Third Symphony!

I find Tintner definitive in no. 3 and until I finally got round to investing in the Jochum Dresden at bargain price quite recently, Tintner was my only complete set of the greatest symphonies ever written. This is partly because I prefer the original versions in every case where he has chosen them -- even arguably in the 8th though I know that one's pretty controversial. I still think Jochum is the greatest Bruckner interpreter but is let down by his choice of versions. Fortunately this doesn't matter in no. 6 where he is sans pareil although Celi works wonders in this work -- one of his greatest achievements. I've never liked Klemperer  that much here -- his second movement is too matter of fact. 

[Cato]

But... but... each note is an exploration of the sheer force that music can carry!      

It is truly APOCALYPTIC!  

Oh man it is so over the top.  I also like how the person who wrote the script is not the person reading it out.  Youtube has truly gone from honest video essays from the everyman to high production videos from people looking to make a career out of it.

I'm listening now, and can't guarantee I will bail before it's over—though it's scarcely 15 minutes. 

Perhaps some reassurance, though, that even as an avid Bruckner fan, I haven't gone over the edge. 

-Bruce

Aaaannnd...about halfway through, I couldn't take it anymore. When he started the analysis (or "analysis") of the Eighth, I asked, "Why am I watching this?" and couldn't come up with an answer.

Still, fascinating to see something from the far end of the Bruckner Appreciation Spectrum Society (BASS, which I just made up).

-Bruce

Still, fascinating to see something from the far end of the Bruckner Appreciation Spectrum Society (BASS, which I just made up).


Yes, which is why I offered it!    Just soooo "over-the-top," it was hard to believe.

"And I thought I was the ultimate Bruckner fan!"

The author of this video-essay wins that contest! 

[vers la flamme]

I find Tintner definitive in no. 3 and until I finally got round to investing in the Jochum Dresden at bargain price quite recently, Tintner was my only complete set of the greatest symphonies ever written. This is partly because I prefer the original versions in every case where he has chosen them -- even arguably in the 8th though I know that one's pretty controversial. I still think Jochum is the greatest Bruckner interpreter but is let down by his choice of versions. Fortunately this doesn't matter in no. 6 where he is sans pareil although Celi works wonders in this work -- one of his greatest achievements. I've never liked Klemperer  that much here -- his second movement is too matter of fact. 

I need to listen to Tintner's no.3 again soon. Jochum/Dresden was the one who made the 3rd click for me; hearing Tintner's then ramped up my enthusiasm to a new level.