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Title: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: karlhenning on June 20, 2007, 11:22:53 AM
No string quartets, please.
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Maciek on June 20, 2007, 11:27:52 AM
I don't think I know a single chamber work by a Briton (including SQs!) anyway... :P
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: karlhenning on June 20, 2007, 11:33:01 AM
Maciek, you are a prime elector, then!  8)
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Guido on June 20, 2007, 11:38:44 AM
That needs to be remedied very quickly Maciek. I can think of two instrument/piano sonatas already which are two of my all time favourite works in any genre. Will be sending them along shortly...
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Maciek on June 20, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
Go ahead, Guido. ;D

Karl, another quibble: what if the pianist is humming?
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: karlhenning on June 20, 2007, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: MrOsa on June 20, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
Karl, another quibble: what if the pianist is humming?

Out.
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voi
Post by: not edward on June 20, 2007, 12:08:00 PM
Franck: Violin Sonata
Debussy: Cello Sonata
Ravel: Sonata for Violin and Cello
Brahms: Violin Sonata No 2
Beethoven: Violin Sonata No 9, 'Kreutzer'
Brahms: Clarinet Sonata No 2
Schnittke: Violin Sonata No 2

... ok, that's seven already!
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voi
Post by: PSmith08 on June 20, 2007, 12:19:44 PM
1. Bach: BWV 1014
2. Bach: BWV 1015
3. Bach: BWV 1016
4. Bach: BWV 1017
5. Ligeti: 3 Pieces for 2 Pianos (Knew I'd sneak this one in somewhere...)
6. Arvo Pärt, "Fratres (I)"
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Maciek on June 20, 2007, 12:26:51 PM
When did we start to exclude Voi?
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voi
Post by: quintett op.57 on June 20, 2007, 02:43:01 PM
Beethoven : Kreutzer sonata
Beethoven : Cello sonata 3
Schnittke : Cello sonata
Rachmaninov : Cello sonata
Shostakovich : Cello sonata
Brahms : Cello sonata 1
Jacchini : Sonata for Cello & B.c op.3/10

I'm not very sure of my list ; Many I'm sad not to include:
Strauss-more Beethoven-Ravel-Schubert-Borodin-Saint-Saëns-Frescobaldi-Kodaly-Janacek
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: val on June 21, 2007, 01:17:38 AM
JS BACH: Sonata for vila da gamba and harpsichord BWV 1027

BEETHOVEN: 3rd Sonata for cello and piano

SCHUBERT: Fantasia for violin and piano

SCHUBERT: Fantasia for 4 hands (piano)

BRAHMS: Sonata opus 120/1 for clarinet and piano

CESAR FRANCK: Sonata for violin and piano

ENESCU: 3rd Sonata for violin and piano

(I would like to mention John Briton's Duo for oboe and tuba composed in 1889, one year before the composer's death, but since Briton seems to be persona non grata ...)
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: karlhenning on June 21, 2007, 04:12:56 AM
Ravel, Sonata for Violin & Cello
Prokofiev, F Minor Sonata for Violin & Piano
Shostakovich, Sonata for Viola & Piano
Shostakovich, Sonata for Violin & Piano
Brahms, F Minor Sonata for Clarinet & Piano
Stravinsky, Concerto per due pianoforti
Debussy, Sonata for Cello & Piano


Fie! My own topic header precludes Luke's beautiful Canticle Sonata for clarinet and piano!  :-\
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Wanderer on July 21, 2021, 05:59:07 AM
Beethoven: Violin Sonata No. 9, Op. 47, "Kreutzer"
Beethoven: Cello Sonata No. 3, Op. 69
Brahms: Violin Sonata No. 1, Op. 78
Mendelssohn: Cello Sonata No. 2, Op. 58
Medtner: Violin Sonata No. 2, Op. 44
Alkan: Grand Duo Concertant pour violon et piano, Op. 21
Alkan: Sonate de Concert pour piano et violoncelle, Op. 47
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Papy Oli on July 21, 2021, 06:08:14 AM
Bach - Sonatas for Violin and Harpsichord...

That's 7 of them  0:)
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Karl Henning on July 21, 2021, 01:57:56 PM
Serious thread exhumation!
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Jo498 on July 22, 2021, 12:53:14 AM
I wonder at the strange conditions: 7 works, two performers, no voice, no British composers (with (not too much) respect to Elgar's or Delius' violin sonatas I struggle to think that these would crowd out other candidates and had to be excluded beforehand...)
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: ritter on July 22, 2021, 06:07:41 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on July 22, 2021, 12:53:14 AM
I wonder at the strange conditions: 7 works, two performers, no voice, no British composers (with (not too much) respect to Elgar's or Delius' violin sonatas I struggle to think that these would crowd out other candidates and had to be excluded beforehand...)
I imagine the last condition was to avoid the thread being flooded with works written by every composer to come out of the British Isles in the past 500 years, as often happens here on GMG  ;)
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Irons on July 22, 2021, 06:42:48 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on July 22, 2021, 12:53:14 AM
I wonder at the strange conditions: 7 works, two performers, no voice, no British composers (with (not too much) respect to Elgar's or Delius' violin sonatas I struggle to think that these would crowd out other candidates and had to be excluded beforehand...)

I thought that, why?

Quote from: ritter on July 22, 2021, 06:07:41 AM


I imagine the last condition was to avoid the thread being flooded with works written by every composer to come out of the British Isles in the past 500 years, as often happens here on GMG  ;)

OK. Get it now. Speaking personally, I am aware I prattle on far too much on British composers.
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Karl Henning on July 22, 2021, 07:07:41 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on July 22, 2021, 12:53:14 AM
I wonder at the strange conditions: 7 works, two performers, no voice, no British composers (with (not too much) respect to Elgar's or Delius' violin sonatas I struggle to think that these would crowd out other candidates and had to be excluded beforehand...)

I wonder, myself, as the thread initiator.  At this remove, I've no idea what the driver was.
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: DavidW on July 22, 2021, 07:53:36 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 22, 2021, 07:07:41 AM
I wonder, myself, as the thread initiator.  At this remove, I've no idea what the driver was.

You also said no string quartets in case "two performers" wasn't enough! :P

And you excluded voice in your anti-Schubert crusade. >:D

See I would have the made rules to exclude Beethoven, Mozart, Brahms and Shostakovich to level the playing fields.

Anyway Janacek's violin sonata might have made my short list, but I can see from the previous posts that no one else agrees!
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: ritter on July 22, 2021, 08:34:47 AM
Quote from: Irons on July 22, 2021, 06:42:48 AM
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OK. Get it now. Speaking personally, I am aware I prattle on far too much on British composers.
I was just being facetious, Irons, and not thinking of any fellow GMGer in particular. I sincerely apologise if I've offended anyone. Needless to say, we're all free to extoll the virtues of those composers that enthuse us... :)

Best regards,
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: Irons on July 22, 2021, 11:19:05 PM
Quote from: ritter on July 22, 2021, 08:34:47 AM
I was just being facetious, Irons, and not thinking of any fellow GMGer in particular. I sincerely apologise if I've offended anyone. Needless to say, we're all free to extoll the virtues of those composers that enthuse us... :)

Best regards,

No offence taken. An old saying "If the hat fits wear it" guilty as charged so I was wearing it. ;)
Title: Re: Your Top 7 Chamber Works (Not by a Briton) for Two Performers (Excluding Voice)
Post by: The new erato on July 22, 2021, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: DavidW on July 22, 2021, 07:53:36 AM
You also said no string quartets in case "two performers" wasn't enough! :P

I wonder if a double tracked string quartet payed by two performers would apply?