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Title: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 29, 2016, 04:17:25 PM
What are yours? There's probably a thread for this already but oh well here's another one deal with it

Chamber Concerto
'Etudes' for piano (all the books!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Trio for Horn, Violin and Piano
Violin Concerto
Cello Concerto
Atmosphères
Lontano
Requiem
Le Grand Macabre
String Quartet no. 1
Síppal, dobbal, nádihegedüvel
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 29, 2016, 04:36:00 PM
Ok for those voting for the etudes, are there any in particular which you like the most? :)
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 29, 2016, 05:09:24 PM
I will have to think about which etudes I like the most.......but off the top of my head I think 13 is my favourite
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Mirror Image on December 29, 2016, 07:26:03 PM
Damn, this is difficult! Let's see...(in no particular order):

Clocks & Clouds
Violin Concerto
Requiem
Lontano
San Francisco Polyphony
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 29, 2016, 09:37:57 PM
Damn, this is difficult! Let's see...(in no particular order):

Clocks & Clouds
Violin Concerto
Requiem
Lontano
San Francisco Polyphony


Really nice list! Certainly a lot from his middle period. Would Ligeti from the 60s and 70s be the Ligeti you tend to gravitate towards?
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Mirror Image on December 29, 2016, 09:43:10 PM
Really nice list! Certainly a lot from his middle period. Would Ligeti from the 60s and 70s be the Ligeti you tend to gravitate towards?

Thanks, but I'm not too familiar with Ligeti's different periods. Melodien, the Piano Concerto, and Atmosphères could have made it into my 'Top 5' as well.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: amw on December 30, 2016, 04:50:18 AM
Melodien
San Francisco Polyphony
Hamburg Concerto
Violin Concerto
Chamber Concerto
Lux aeterna
Requiem
Piano Concerto
String Quartet No. 2
Volumina
Síppal, dobbal, nádihegedűvel

don't ask me to put them in order though. Melodien & SFP are my favourites overall.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: aleazk on December 30, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
What are yours? There's probably a thread for this already but oh well here's another one deal with it

Chamber Concerto
'Etudes' for piano (all the books!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Trio for Horn, Violin and Piano
Violin Concerto
Cello Concerto
Atmosphères
Lontano
Requiem
Le Grand Macabre
String Quartet no. 1
Síppal, dobbal, nádihegedüvel

WHY the Piano Concerto is not in your list? Explain now.  >:(
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 30, 2016, 02:01:58 PM
WHY the Piano Concerto is not in your list? Explain now.  >:(
HAHA I have heard it so many times I have kinda grown bored of it :laugh:

It IS good, as is everything he wrote (except for Régi magyar társas táncok) but I like some of the other concertos more ;D
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Trout on January 03, 2017, 10:05:30 PM
Etudes
Musica Ricercata
Violin Concerto
Le Grand Macabre
String Quartet No. 2

...but I couldn't leave out:

Piano Concerto
String Quartet No. 1
Chamber Concerto
Trio for Horn, Violin and Piano
Lontano
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on January 04, 2017, 12:31:53 AM
I feel that I must also mention his Three Pieces for Two Pianos. Fun to listen to, and stylistically important as it forms a clear bridge from his middle period of composition and his late period.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: pjme on January 04, 2017, 01:21:45 AM
easy: Requiem.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: nathanb on January 06, 2017, 08:14:27 PM
My initial, somewhat lazy answer:

Artikulation
Atmospheres
Etudes
Hamburg Concerto
Horn Trio
Le Grand Macabre
Lontano
Piano Concerto
Requiem
Volumina
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: James on January 07, 2017, 08:44:53 AM
Both SQs (2)
Piano Etudes (the best of them)
Melodien

Very easily reaching 5.

Humor, forensic rigor, overall musical excellence, genius.

With a composer like Ligeti (who is really one of the very best of the the post-war era, and of the 20th century itself) .. it's easy to keep listing stuff ..
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on January 18, 2017, 06:53:40 AM
Piano Concerto
Etudes
Horn Trio
Grand Macabre - though not so much for its music but the total concept. A high point of Alan Gilbert's tenure with the NY Phil was a semi-staged concert version where the whole experience just blew me away.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on January 18, 2017, 03:48:17 PM
Piano Concerto
Etudes
Horn Trio
Grand Macabre - though not so much for its music but the total concept. A high point of Alan Gilbert's tenure with the NY Phil was a semi-staged concert version where the whole experience just blew me away.
I agree with you on Le Grand Macabre. I have always felt that the music alone, without the drama, dialogue, design etc. really needs the added theatrical elements for it to work........
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Gaspard de la nuit on July 01, 2017, 08:07:13 AM
Besides the Études, my personal favorites are the late 60s/early 70s orchestral works:

Lotano
Melodien
Clocks & Clouds
San Francisco Polyphony
Double Concerto

I usually put them together in a playlist and listen to them all at once, treating them as one long orchestral work.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: 71 dB on July 01, 2017, 09:46:49 AM
I'm so new to Ligeti's music I don't have a clue what my favorites are. Ligeti is experienced rather than remembered which makes comparing difficult.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on July 01, 2017, 09:48:44 AM
The only 2 i like are Lontano and Atmospheres.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on July 01, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
I'm so new to Ligeti's music I don't have a clue what my favorites are. Ligeti is experienced rather than remembered which makes comparing difficult.

What do you mean by remembered? I find I can hear many works by Ligeti in my head by remembering how they go, but I don't know if that's what you mean.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Mirror Image on May 05, 2020, 06:19:53 PM
Since Greg (Monkey Greg) has jumped on the GMG saddle again and seems to be enthused by Ligeti’s music, it’s time I update my list:

(In no particular order)

Études
Lontano
Lux Aeterna
Six Bagatelles
Clocks and Clouds
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: TheGSMoeller on May 05, 2020, 07:54:31 PM
Since Greg (Monkey Greg) has jumped on the GMG saddle again and seems to be enthused by Ligeti’s music, it’s time I update my list:

(In no particular order)

Études
Lontano
Lux Aeterna
Six Bagatelles
Clocks and Clouds


Ah cool. Didn't know about this thread. I'll wait until my SONY Masterworks set arrives and give those a spin before I make any lists, there a still a good number of works I haven't heard.
Great lists here!
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Mirror Image on May 05, 2020, 07:56:00 PM
Ah cool. Didn't know about this thread. I'll wait until my SONY Masterworks set arrives and give those a spin before I make any lists, there a still a good number of works I haven't heard.
Great lists here!

Looking forward to your list, Greg. 8)
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Uhor on May 07, 2020, 09:06:07 PM
Atmospheres
Double Concerto
Chamber Concerto
Lontano
String Quartet No. 2
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: FelixSkodi on May 22, 2020, 11:02:23 PM
1. Volumina
2. San Francisco Polyphony
3. Le Grand Macabre
4. Etudes
5. Requiem
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Symphonic Addict on July 07, 2021, 10:28:58 AM
I thought I already had contributed on this thread. Time to remedy that:

Violin Concerto
Piano Concerto
Lontano
San Francisco Polyphony
Horn Trio

I had to leave out Atmosphères, Requiem, Clocks and Clouds and the String Quartets.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: vers la flamme on July 07, 2021, 01:08:57 PM
Don't know that many, but these are all amazing:

Atmosphères
Chamber Concerto
Violin Concerto
String Quartet No.2
Requiem
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Brewski on July 07, 2021, 01:19:54 PM
I thought I already had contributed on this thread. Time to remedy that:

Violin Concerto
Piano Concerto
Lontano
San Francisco Polyphony
Horn Trio

I had to leave out Atmosphères, Requiem, Clocks and Clouds and the String Quartets.

Don't know that many, but these are all amazing:

Atmosphères
Chamber Concerto
Violin Concerto
String Quartet No.2
Requiem

Great lists! I do think Atmosphères is one of the greatest works by anyone, that deserves to stand alongside other groundbreaking scores like say, Beethoven's Eroica, or Stravinsky's Rite.

My choices:

Atmosphères
Lux Aeterna

Violin Concerto
Piano Etudes, Book I
String Quartet No. 2

--Bruce
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Symphonic Addict on July 07, 2021, 06:28:25 PM
Great lists! I do think Atmosphères is one of the greatest works by anyone, that deserves to stand alongside other groundbreaking scores like say, Beethoven's Eroica, or Stravinsky's Rite.

My choices:

Atmosphères
Lux Aeterna

Violin Concerto
Piano Etudes, Book I
String Quartet No. 2

--Bruce

I'll have to relisten to Atmosphères on the strength of your advocacy.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Mirror Image on July 07, 2021, 06:34:47 PM
I thought I already had contributed on this thread. Time to remedy that:

Violin Concerto
Piano Concerto
Lontano
San Francisco Polyphony
Horn Trio

I had to leave out Atmosphères, Requiem, Clocks and Clouds and the String Quartets.

No love for any of the piano works, Cesar?  :-\
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Symphonic Addict on July 07, 2021, 07:06:53 PM
No love for any of the piano works, Cesar?  :-\

I've only heard almost all of his orchestral and chamber works, but the stuff for piano is still unknown to me. What works do you recommend?
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Mirror Image on July 07, 2021, 07:07:51 PM
I've only heard almost all of his orchestral and chamber works, but the stuff for piano is still unknown to me. What works do you recommend?

The Etudes! It is masterful and full of twists and surprises. I think you’ll enjoy this work.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Symphonic Addict on July 07, 2021, 07:15:16 PM
The Etudes! It is masterful and full of twists and surprises. I think you’ll enjoy this work.

Thank you, John. I'll make sure to give them a listen when I can.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Mirror Image on July 07, 2021, 07:18:25 PM
Thank you, John. I'll make sure to give them a listen when I can.

8) I know you’re a streaming guy, but if you can find a way to hear the Danny Driver performance on Hyperion, then that would be my recommendation.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: steve ridgway on July 08, 2021, 06:23:09 AM
I haven’t listened to the whole of my collection that many times but as I enjoy the 1960s works as much as anything:

Atmosphères
Lontano
Requiem
Lux Aeterna
Ramifications
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Symphonic Addict on July 08, 2021, 04:24:56 PM
8) I know you’re a streaming guy, but if you can find a way to hear the Danny Driver performance on Hyperion, then that would be my recommendation.

Thanks again. I'll keep it in mind. Yes, I sometimes use streaming services to listen to works that are hard to find elsewhere.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Brewski on July 08, 2021, 04:35:53 PM
Here's one of my favorites of the Études, No. 13, "The Devil's Staircase," beautifully filmed with Pierre-Laurent Aimard. It might be one of the most difficult, but none of them appears to be exactly easy.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLam2O3gtY

--Bruce
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: steve ridgway on July 08, 2021, 08:34:33 PM
Here's one of my favorites of the Études, No. 13, "The Devil's Staircase," beautifully filmed with Pierre-Laurent Aimard. It might be one of the most difficult, but none of them appears to be exactly easy.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLam2O3gtY

--Bruce

That looks very hard indeed, and a little creepy like those hands are crawling about with minds of their own. ???
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Ligeti Works
Post by: Symphonic Addict on July 10, 2021, 02:56:13 PM
Here's one of my favorites of the Études, No. 13, "The Devil's Staircase," beautifully filmed with Pierre-Laurent Aimard. It might be one of the most difficult, but none of them appears to be exactly easy.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLam2O3gtY

--Bruce

What impressive piece and playing! Thanks for sharing it. These études seem like my cup of tea.