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Title: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: squeemu on May 03, 2007, 11:12:00 AM
Today I bought a cd of Weber's clarinet concertos with Sabine Meyer on EMI classics. When I opened it up, the text in the booklet was talking about Barbirolli conducting Mahler's 9th. It's not too big of a deal, because the most important part is the CD, but it's still kind of annoying that some companies could make a mistake like this and I feel like I bought a cheap product. Has this ever happened to anybody else?
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on May 03, 2007, 11:14:43 AM
Today I bought a cd of Weber's clarinet concertos with Sabine Meyer on EMI classics. When I opened it up, the text in the booklet was talking about Barbirolli conducting Mahler's 9th. It's not too big of a deal, because the most important part is the CD, but it's still kind of annoying that some companies could make a mistake like this and I feel like I bought a cheap product. Has this ever happened to anybody else?

EMI's quality control is THE worst. For a big time record company it is a joke to make the kind of mistakes they make. My version of the Furtwangler Tristan (the one with the lovers on the cover, not the new GROC edition) has EVERY SINGLE TRACK LISTING AND TIMING WRONG ! Also once I bought a Bertini/Mahler set and the CD for sym#7, even though it says Sym#7 on it, contains the same music as the first disc of sym#3.

You are a victim of their carelessness. Sorry.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: MishaK on May 03, 2007, 12:08:43 PM
I once bought a Sony Vivaldi set that inexplicably contained one CD of Mussorgsky.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: 71 dB on May 03, 2007, 12:25:03 PM
Elgar - Piano Music - Peter Pettinger - Chandos CHAN 8438

track numbering errors.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 01:12:56 PM
Well I had recently some boxes in which the booklets were missing, or tracking errors, and even musical movements cut short by a few bars, bad editing that is. :P
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 03, 2007, 01:42:26 PM
Back when it was possible to do, I used to buy mail order directly from Naxos USA in Tennessee. I once purchased their disk of Faure Violin Sonatas. When it arrived, the box, liner notes and the disk itself all were appropriately marked "Faure Violin Sonatas". But when I put it on to play, the lovely sound of Mendelssohn's 1st symphony came out of the speakers! I wasn't familiar at that time with the work, but I knew that whatever I was hearing sure as heck wasn't a violin sonata  :o 

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Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: johnQpublic on May 03, 2007, 01:59:59 PM
Gurn's Golden Ears can't be fooled.  :P
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: oyasumi on May 03, 2007, 02:03:59 PM
I have a Bach disc and the guy doesn't play the repeats
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 03, 2007, 03:02:42 PM
Gurn's Golden Ears can't be fooled.  :P

Actually, they can, and easily... :)

(But I can tell a symphony from a violin sonata, no matter the screen printing on the disk!)  ;D

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Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 03, 2007, 03:03:45 PM
I have a Bach disc and the guy doesn't play the repeats

Unforgivable, totally unforgivable. I suppose he wasn't even playing it on a harpsichord either. >:(

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Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Steve on May 03, 2007, 03:07:34 PM
I too, have been a victim of EMI's carelessness. Just last month, a purchased a recording of Carmen on their classics label, only to find that one of the discs was labled incorrectly.

Remember, its all about the music.  :)
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 03, 2007, 03:09:13 PM
I too, have been a victim of EMI's carelessness. Just last month, a purchased a recording of Carmen on their classics label, only to find that one of the discs was labled incorrectly.

Remember, its all about the music.  :)

But was it at least the right disk?  :)

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Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Don on May 03, 2007, 08:13:28 PM
I have a Bach disc and the guy doesn't play the repeats

None of them?  There is a line of thought that repeats are better left omitted, but I miss them when the performances are excellent.  When they stink, lack of repeats is a good idea.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Don on May 03, 2007, 08:15:44 PM
Today I bought a cd of Weber's clarinet concertos with Sabine Meyer on EMI classics. When I opened it up, the text in the booklet was talking about Barbirolli conducting Mahler's 9th. It's not too big of a deal, because the most important part is the CD, but it's still kind of annoying that some companies could make a mistake like this and I feel like I bought a cheap product.

Could you think of it as a varied product?  Seriously, I feel for you.  Once, I got a Cd, opened the jewel case, and found nothing in it.  My heart just sank, then anger took over.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Bunny on May 03, 2007, 08:19:25 PM
Could you think of it as a varied product?  Seriously, I feel for you.  Once, I got a Cd, opened the jewel case, and found nothing in it.  My heart just sank, then anger took over.

EMI isn't the only one.  I found 2 damaged cds in a case for one cd from Delos.  Imagine getting 2 cds and neither played! 

Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Don on May 03, 2007, 08:25:15 PM
The only other odd disc I can think of was one I bought at a store that had absolutely nothing printed on the face.  I figured that no music would be on it, but to my surprise, the music was as right as could be.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Steve on May 03, 2007, 08:38:58 PM
But was it at least the right disk?  :)

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Thankfully, it was.  :)

Of course, instead of two Carmen-labled Cds, I have Disc 2 of La Traviata....
That can get confusing, as I own that recording also.  ;D
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 09:39:43 PM
And although Brilliant is a big player on the market, and I have so many cd 's from them, only in the beginning there was a faulty disc, that would not play. After phoning them, they promptly send me a new one.
In the case of another big player Naxos, never it happen. The discs were always good, non of the above problems occured.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 09:41:48 PM
I too, have been a victim of EMI's carelessness. Just last month, a purchased a recording of Carmen on their classics label, only to find that one of the discs was labled incorrectly.

Remember, its all about the music.  :)

I was not aware of the fact that this problem is a typical EMI problem.
Never had faulty disc one from them, but then I would never buy Carmen. ;D
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: stingo on May 04, 2007, 02:50:42 AM
Naxos' Pines and Fountains of Rome CD used to have the track listings in the wrong order. I'd imagine it's since been corrected.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: oyasumi on May 04, 2007, 06:12:20 AM
Actually I think he didn't play the repeats so that all of the pieces would fit on one disc.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Don on May 04, 2007, 06:17:22 AM
Actually I think he didn't play the repeats so that all of the pieces would fit on one disc.

That might be, but it's a way of deciding about repeats that's entirely insensitive to the music.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Bunny on May 04, 2007, 07:48:44 AM
I have a Bach disc and the guy doesn't play the repeats

Actually I think he didn't play the repeats so that all of the pieces would fit on one disc.

That used to be very common.  Scott Ross's Erato Goldbergs are generally finer than his EMI Goldbergs, but they hardly take up one disc (there's also Scarlatti on it) because he cut so many of the repeats in order to fit it into a live radio broadcast.  It was also common for the expositional repeat in Mahler's 6th to be cut out so that the symphony would fit on two sides of one LP.  That was sad because that's the only repeat Mahler ever wrote into a symphony, so he really must have wanted that repeat in there. 

Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Brian on May 04, 2007, 02:06:50 PM
I've gotten a lot of Naxos discs with odd errors on the CD itself (misspelling performers and so on) and in the booklet. Once a biography of the artist was weirdly cut short halfway through in favor of a large blank space. One of my all-time favorite Naxos CDs (maybe my #1) is Suk's Serenade for Strings, but the "total time" printed on the front is different from the "total time" printed on the back.  ;D

Tchaikovsky/Muti box from Brilliant has wildly fictional track times for Tchaikovsky's String Serenade (first movement says 14 minutes, for instance!).
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: RebLem on May 04, 2007, 11:41:51 PM
This kind of crap happens all the time.

I have one volume of the Decca Julius Katchen retrospective that has about 1/3 of the printed material its supposed to have.

Back in the LP era, I bought an EMI LP that was supposed to be music of Poulenc, if I remember correctly.  The jacket and liner notes said so, and the label on the LP said so.  But the music in the grooves was the Bruckner 6th Symphony!  Probably Klemperer's.

I have the entire hanssler CBE collection.  One of the sets of harpsichord music is consistent throughout--the back cover gives info on the harpsichord music, the booklet is about the harpsichord music, and the music on the CD is of the harpsichord music.  But the label on one of the two CDs says its the St Matthew Passion!

I must say this sort of thing happens less often in the CD era than it did in the LP era, but it is still enormously irritating.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: shive1 on May 05, 2007, 05:20:54 AM
I ordered Jochum's DG Bruckner cycle and the box contained two discs with the 9th symphony, and the 6th was missing.
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: m_gigena on May 05, 2007, 08:48:17 AM
I once bought a Sony Vivaldi set that inexplicably contained one CD of Mussorgsky.

I bought one with Mozart clarinet quintet and concerto which contained 1930's cantine jazz. I took it back to the store, the shop assistant played the cd, and asked me if I was sure what we were listening to wasn't a Mozart concerto. I said "No... it's a rusty female voice... with a jazz band behind".
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: Brian on May 05, 2007, 11:57:14 AM
I bought one with Mozart clarinet quintet and concerto which contained 1930's cantine jazz. I took it back to the store, the shop assistant played the cd, and asked me if I was sure what we were listening to wasn't a Mozart concerto. I said "No... it's a rusty female voice... with a jazz band behind".
  ;D  just had to be sure!


Just opened a Naxos Villa Lobos CD and discovered a guitarist named Norbel Kraft, by the way ...
Title: Re: Wrong text in CD booklet
Post by: marvinbrown on May 05, 2007, 02:24:07 PM
Today I bought a cd of Weber's clarinet concertos with Sabine Meyer on EMI classics. When I opened it up, the text in the booklet was talking about Barbirolli conducting Mahler's 9th. It's not too big of a deal, because the most important part is the CD, but it's still kind of annoying that some companies could make a mistake like this and I feel like I bought a cheap product. Has this ever happened to anybody else?

  Sorry to hear about this unfortunate incident Squeemu. Mistakes of this sort seem to happen all the time and its quite annoying when there is an error in the LIBRETTO of an opera.  I have a Decca recording of R. Strauss' Salome with Solti, Nilsson and the VPO (yes its the one with the hideous picture of Nilsson as Salome on the cover but I digress).  The libretto covering Track 6 is missing and there are 2 copies of the libretto of Track 7 .  On first hearing I knew something was wrong when all of a sudden the plot ceased to make sense.  Took it back to HMV and discovered that all the recordings had this error, I had to download Oscar Wilde's play (the opera is based on that play) just to make sense of the plot..........and this was supposed to be a new remastered version of the original recording.  This is it by the way
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