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Title: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Florestan on February 06, 2023, 06:07:17 AM
...please, be so kind as to let us know. It's very confusing to wake up one morning and see a "veteran member" with thousands of posts, whose username doesn't ring any bell. Lovfald / SymphonicAddict, I'm looking at you!  :D

Actually, there was such a thread on the old version of the forum but I can't find it anymore.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on February 06, 2023, 09:36:57 AM
I used to be merely "sforzando," after my friend Brian wrote at one point that "I don't know what 'sforzando' means, though clearly it means something." As indeed it does. Then I was told that "sforzando" might be a bit strong, so I amended my user name to "(poco) 'sforzando,'" an oxymoron if ever there was one. But that's where it will stay.

When I was still active on ClassicalMusicGuide.com, before I was kicked off for making too much fun of the humorless far-right moderator, I called myself "Alban Berg." But that was kind of arrogant.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: vandermolen on February 06, 2023, 12:05:44 PM
Quote from: Florestan on February 06, 2023, 06:07:17 AM...please, be so kind as to let us know. It's very confusing to wake up one morning and see a "veteran member" with thousands of posts, whose username doesn't ring any bell. Lovfald / SymphonicAddict, I'm looking at you!  :D

Actually, there was such a thread on the old version of the forum but I can't find it anymore.
Thanks for clarifying that Andrei - I was confused by 'Lovfald' as well.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Symphonic Addict on February 06, 2023, 01:14:21 PM
I find amusing how my change of username and avatar has confused some members here. It's simply a matter of checking out some posts and realizing the person in question.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: JBS on February 06, 2023, 01:24:40 PM
Quote from: Løvfald on February 06, 2023, 01:14:21 PMI find amusing how my change of username and avatar has confused some members here. It's simply a matter of checking out some posts and realizing the person in question.

Can I ask what the new name refers to?

Myself, I couldn't pass up an oppurtunity to tease Florestan.
(The avatar is a Rembrandt engraving of an man named Ephraim Bonus, alternately titled "Portrait of a Jewish Physician".)
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Symphonic Addict on February 06, 2023, 01:31:24 PM
Quote from: Ephraim Bonus on February 06, 2023, 01:24:40 PMCan I ask what the new name refers to?

Myself, I couldn't pass up an oppurtunity to tease Florestan.
(The avatar is a Rembrandt engraving of an man named Ephraim Bonus, alternately titled "Portrait of a Jewish Physician".)

It's the title of Langgaard's Symphony No. 4, a work that resonates with me very much, both musically and for the composer's philosophy/beliefs behind it.

Are you going to stick with your new avatar and username? Or just for the moment?
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Daverz on February 06, 2023, 03:27:03 PM
Quote from: Florestan on February 06, 2023, 06:07:17 AM...please, be so kind as to let us know. It's very confusing to wake up one morning and see a "veteran member" with thousands of posts, whose username doesn't ring any bell. Lovfald / SymphonicAddict, I'm looking at you!  :D

Actually, there was such a thread on the old version of the forum but I can't find it anymore.

Yeah, I find this confusing, too.

Though if you morphed back and forth between Florestan and Eusebius, I'd probably get it.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: JBS on February 06, 2023, 03:47:52 PM
Quote from: Løvfald on February 06, 2023, 01:31:24 PMIt's the title of Langgaard's Symphony No. 4, a work that resonates with me very much, both musically and for the composer's philosophy/beliefs behind it.

Are you going to stick with your new avatar and username? Or just for the moment?

I haven't decided.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: vandermolen on February 06, 2023, 09:46:10 PM
Whose Ephraim Bonus? (I mean who did they used to be)

From

vandermolen (soon to be known as 'Lamb Chop')  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Wanderer on February 06, 2023, 10:44:32 PM
Quote from: Florestan on February 06, 2023, 06:07:17 AM...please, be so kind as to let us know. It's very confusing to wake up one morning and see a "veteran member" with thousands of posts, whose username doesn't ring any bell. Lovfald / SymphonicAddict, I'm looking at you!  :D

Actually, there was such a thread on the old version of the forum but I can't find it anymore.

Thanks, Andrei, for making this thread. The old thread you are referring to was actually started by me and for the exact same reasons. It went down with the rest of our accumulated knowledge during the Old Forum Software Catastrophe.

It is indeed a confusing situation when people change names and act like nothing happened. It's only polite to notify others of the change, otherwise it comes off as a rude and alienating, narcissistic move. 
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Papy Oli on February 06, 2023, 11:45:48 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on February 06, 2023, 09:46:10 PMWhose Ephraim Bonus? (I mean who did they used to be)

JBS, based on his older posts.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Florestan on February 07, 2023, 12:23:08 AM
Quote from: Løvfald on February 06, 2023, 01:14:21 PMI find amusing how my change of username and avatar has confused some members here. It's simply a matter of checking out some posts and realizing the person in question.

Well, excuse me, Cesar, but what if I have neither the time nor the inclination to browse through your posting history? Had you kept your Nielsen signature line I'd have known it's you, but you changed it as well.

It really used to be common practice here to announce avatar and username changes, or at least to put "formerly known as..." under the new avatar, and I think it should continue.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Florestan on February 07, 2023, 12:24:27 AM
Quote from: Ephraim Bonus on February 06, 2023, 01:24:40 PMMyself, I couldn't pass up an oppurtunity to tease Florestan.

Well, Jeffrey, had you changed your personal text and signature line too, you would surely have confused me.  ;)
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: vandermolen on February 07, 2023, 04:19:13 AM
Quote from: Papy Oli on February 06, 2023, 11:45:48 PMJBS, based on his older posts.
Ah, the other Jeffrey! Thanks Olivier.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Symphonic Addict on February 07, 2023, 10:01:24 AM
Quote from: Florestan on February 07, 2023, 12:23:08 AMWell, excuse me, Cesar, but what if I have neither the time nor the inclination to browse through your posting history? Had you kept your Nielsen signature line I'd have known it's you, but you changed it as well.

It really used to be common practice here to announce avatar and username changes, or at least to put "formerly known as..." under the new avatar, and I think it should continue.
Well, that's your issue then. I don't have the need (neither do I want) to do what others do. I am free to be the way I want. Also, I don't like to be too much involved on places like this. I don't take them too seriously.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Florestan on February 07, 2023, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: Løvfald on February 07, 2023, 10:01:24 AMI don't have the need (neither do I want) to do what others do. I am free to be the way I want.

Sometimes, doing what others do is a question of basic politeness.

QuoteAlso, I don't like to be too much involved on places like this. I don't take them too seriously.

Actually, this is yet another question of basic politeness, not to tell people with whom you've been interacting for years that actually you don't take the whole thing too seriously.



Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Jo498 on February 07, 2023, 10:42:12 AM
No offense intended but I really dislike it when people change usernames. It's very confusing; I even dislike people changing avatars (one reason I haven't one).
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Florestan on February 07, 2023, 10:44:49 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on February 07, 2023, 10:42:12 AMNo offense intended but I really dislike it when people change usernames. It's very confusing; I even dislike people changing avatars (one reason I haven't one).

There is an option by which you can ignore all avatars and signatures. All you will see are just the usernames.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Karl Henning on February 07, 2023, 12:16:47 PM
Henning is now Tirebiter
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Spotted Horses on February 07, 2023, 12:28:13 PM
Quote from: Løvfald on February 07, 2023, 10:01:24 AMWell, that's your issue then. I don't have the need (neither do I want) to do what others do. I am free to be the way I want. Also, I don't like to be too much involved on places like this. I don't take them too seriously.

Well, I think the rule is that if you expect courtesy and consideration from others you should expect to give courtesy consideration to others.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Spotted Horses on February 07, 2023, 12:29:22 PM
Quote from: George Leroy Tirebiter on February 07, 2023, 12:16:47 PMHenning is now Tirebiter

Maybe this little joke as run its course?
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: prémont on February 07, 2023, 12:53:52 PM
Quote from: Karl Tirebiter Henning on February 07, 2023, 12:16:47 PMHenning is now Tirebiter

Is it about Tirebiter I, II or maybe rather III?
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Symphonic Addict on February 07, 2023, 01:16:04 PM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 07, 2023, 12:28:13 PMWell, I think the rule is that if you expect courtesy and consideration from others you should expect to give courtesy consideration to others.

What I think is that the fuss about this topic is frankly exaggerated, excessive and, eventually, pointless. The fact that somebody changes his/her username and avatar mustn't be taken as seriously or personal as someone wants to show.

I won't reply about this silly topic anymore. I prefer to talk and share about music, that is the paramount reason I am here.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Spotted Horses on February 14, 2023, 09:16:14 PM
Those of you who are not concerned about how you actions effect others don't have to read this, but one pet peeve of mine is people who refer to other posters by their given names, rather than their site usernames, and often I have no idea who they are talking about.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: DavidW on February 15, 2023, 06:11:26 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 14, 2023, 09:16:14 PMThose of you who are not concerned about how you actions effect others don't have to read this, but one pet peeve of mine is people who refer to other posters by their given names, rather than their site usernames, and often I have no idea who they are talking about.

That also defeats the purpose of using handles in the first place!  Even if I know their name I usually try to use their handle to preserve anonymity/privacy.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Spotted Horses on February 15, 2023, 08:05:57 AM
Quote from: DavidW on February 15, 2023, 06:11:26 AMThat also defeats the purpose of using handles in the first place!  Even if I know their name I usually try to use their handle to preserve anonymity/privacy.

Yes, if someone has revealed their real name to me by PM or another channel (Facebook, etc) then I don't feel I am justified in revealing that on the open forum. Maybe I'm hypersensitive, but another issue is that if people have become chummy via PM or other channels and address each other by their given names on the forum it gives me the impression that people not privy to these names are not included in the conversation (speaking strictly for myself).
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: vandermolen on February 16, 2023, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 15, 2023, 08:05:57 AMYes, if someone has revealed their real name to me by PM or another channel (Facebook, etc) then I don't feel I am justified in revealing that on the open forum. Maybe I'm hypersensitive, but another issue is that if people have become chummy via PM or other channels and address each other by their given names on the forum it gives me the impression that people not privy to these names are not included in the conversation (speaking strictly for myself).
That's a good point Arthur ( ;D ) which I'm guilty of myself. I'll try to be more aware of it.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: prémont on February 16, 2023, 02:59:17 PM
I share my first name with ~ 30.000 countrymen so it doesn't matter if I become known by that, and I haven't objected if I have been called this by some GMG-ers. But other GMG-ers may have first names which are relatively rare, so they prefer to keep it to themself or at least only use it in PMs. And if I only know a GMG-er's name from a PM I don't use it in the forum. 
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Florestan on February 17, 2023, 12:17:24 AM
As most of you know already, my first name is Andrei, which I share with about 500.000 Romanians so privacy is not an issue. Feel free to use it if you wish, I don't mind at all.

There are a few other GMGers whose real first names have become public long time ago but I can't remember any of them objecting to being called as such.

Quote from: premont on February 16, 2023, 02:59:17 PMif I only know a GMG-er's name from a PM I don't use it in the forum. 

+ 1.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Jo498 on February 17, 2023, 12:58:29 AM
I have no problem with using first names if it's clear (by quote or direct reference) who is referred to. But I think it facilitates communication to stick with the forum pseudonyms, at least in general.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2023, 04:34:59 AM
I'll be honest...I wasn't creative enough to think of a nickname.  ;D
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Brahmsian on February 17, 2023, 04:44:22 AM
Quote from: Brian on February 17, 2023, 04:34:59 AMI'll be honest...I wasn't creative enough to think of a nickname.  ;D

Wait.... you chose your name after a famous/infamous English composer, right?
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Karl Henning on February 17, 2023, 07:08:57 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on February 17, 2023, 12:58:29 AMI have no problem with using first names if it's clear (by quote or direct reference) who is referred to. But I think it facilitates communication to stick with the forum pseudonyms, at least in general.
I see the point, as well as the concerns of @Spotted Horses. Of course this facility of invoking the username is new to this spiffy updated software.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Karl Henning on February 17, 2023, 07:10:31 AM
Quote from: Brian on February 17, 2023, 04:34:59 AMI'll be honest...I wasn't creative enough to think of a nickname.  ;D
Seeing your av (though not as a reflection upon you) I might almost suggest: Daffy.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Wanderer on February 17, 2023, 08:21:50 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 14, 2023, 09:16:14 PMThose of you who are not concerned about how you actions effect others don't have to read this, but one pet peeve of mine is people who refer to other posters by their given names, rather than their site usernames, and often I have no idea who they are talking about.

And speaking of calling people names, something I (and many others I've asked over the years) have always found distasteful and rather inappropriate is the American tendency to use diminutive nicknames for composers and performers: Shosty, Lenny, Herbie and the like.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Wanderer on February 17, 2023, 08:24:13 AM
Quote from: Brian on February 17, 2023, 04:34:59 AMI'll be honest...I wasn't creative enough to think of a nickname.  ;D

And truth be told, most of the good ones are taken. Except Batman. Or maybe... Duckman? 😎👍
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Florestan on February 17, 2023, 08:37:00 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on February 17, 2023, 08:21:50 AMthe American tendency to use diminutive nicknames for composers and performers: Shosty, Lenny, Herbie and the like.

Not to mention that abomination to end all abominations: Joe Green.  ;D
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Karl Henning on February 17, 2023, 09:55:30 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on February 17, 2023, 08:21:50 AMShosty, Lenny, Herbie and the like.
I don't condone Shosty. Not at all. But the fact is, Bernstein was known to associates as Lenny. In fact, the first I heard it used, was from my clarinet teacher, who met him once.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Florestan on February 17, 2023, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: Karl Tirebiter Henning on February 17, 2023, 09:55:30 AMI don't condone Shosty. Not at all. But the fact is, Bernstein was known to associates as Lenny. In fact, the first I heard it used, was from my clarinet teacher, who met him once.

Isn't Lenny a legit diminutive for Leonard?
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Karl Henning on February 17, 2023, 10:04:25 AM
Quote from: Florestan on February 17, 2023, 10:00:26 AMIsn't Lenny a legit diminutive for Leonard?
It is, indeed.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Spotted Horses on February 17, 2023, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Florestan on February 17, 2023, 10:00:26 AMIsn't Lenny a legit diminutive for Leonard?

I would not make a federal case out of it, but I don't think it is correct usage to refer to a person you don't know by a diminutive, which implies mutual familiarity. Of course sometimes people substitute a dilutive for their given name in the public forum. For instance, the 39th president of the U.S. is reasonably referred to as Jimmy Carter, but not simply Jimmy (except by Billy).
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Karl Henning on February 17, 2023, 10:36:33 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 17, 2023, 10:32:12 AMI don't think it is correct usage to refer to a person you don't know by a diminutive, which implies mutual familiarity.
This is but reasonable.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Karl Henning on February 17, 2023, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: Florestan on February 17, 2023, 10:00:26 AMIsn't Lenny a legit diminutive for Leonard?

Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 17, 2023, 10:32:12 AMI would not make a federal case out of it, but I don't think it is correct usage to refer to a person you don't know by a diminutive, which implies mutual familiarity. Of course sometimes people substitute a dilutive for their given name in the public forum. For instance, the 39th president of the U.S. is reasonably referred to as Jimmy Carter, but not simply Jimmy (except by Billy).
Also, I have the impression that not everyone is careful to say Joseph Biden.
Here's a kind of "trial balloon, if you like: in the review I've just submitted, I refer to Bernstein both as Leonard  Bernstein and Lenny. Not that it would be a "ruling," just a data point, I shall be interested to see if the editor switches the latter to Leonard, or lets it stand as acceptably conversational.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Spotted Horses on February 17, 2023, 11:08:44 AM
Quote from: Karl Tirebiter Henning on February 17, 2023, 10:54:33 AMAlso, I have the impression that not everyone is careful to say Joseph Biden.
Here's a kind of "trial balloon, if you like: in the review I've just submitted, I refer to Bernstein both as Leonard  Bernstein and Lenny. Not that it would be a "ruling," just a data point, I shall be interested to see if the editor switches the latter to Leonard, or lets it stand as acceptably conversational.

If I were the editor I'd change it, because I've never seen "Lenny Bernstein" on a concert program or CD cover, so he didn't authorize it.
Title: Re: If You Change Your Username...
Post by: Karl Henning on February 17, 2023, 11:09:48 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 17, 2023, 11:08:44 AMIf I were the editor I'd change it, because I've never seen "Lenny Bernstein" on a concert program or CD cover, so he didn't authorize it.
I would, too. I meant simply Lenny, not Lenny B. And, to be sure, my teacher did not address him as "Lenny."