What audio system do you have, or plan on getting?

[Harry]

I went with that... the M10 V2 is on its way.  If I don't like it, I'll return it.  If I do like it, then I'll sell all those individual components.

Well I am happy you did, the M10 is a big step forward, and everything inside is on a higher level. I had that piece of equipment on loan from a friend who went on a 3 months holiday, and I was amazed at what this NAD could do. Good choice. I am very curious as to what you think of it, very curious indeed!

[AnotherSpin]

Well I am happy you did, the M10 is a big step forward, and everything inside is on a higher level. I had that piece of equipment on loan from a friend who went on a 3 months holiday, and I was amazed at what this NAD could do. Good choice. I am very curious as to what you think of it, very curious indeed!

Provided the speakers and cables match adequately with the M10.

[71 dB]

Everything is subjective, and therefore it is no argument. Please do not start again a pointless and endless discussion about high end gear. And for the record, this NAD is a good piece of equipment, and I think this will serve  well with most, subjective or objective.

Don't worry Harry, I'm not planning to start a discussion about high end gear. I have been a NAD fan from early 90's. NAD 302 was my first amplifier and my current amplifier is NAD T758. My CD player is NAD C 565BEE. I also have NAD C 440 tuner, but I have hardly any use for it. Unfortunately in the recent years I have had my problems with NAD (565BEE had to be repared twice after just a few years of use and last year I had to change the rubber belt to the disc loader). NAD products were very robust and long lasting in the past, but nowadays they seem to require lot of maintenance/repair. At the same time the prices of NAD products have gone through the roof. Pity.

[71 dB]

Provided the speakers and cables match adequately with the M10.

NAD amps are known for driving almost any speakers without problems, so you won't have problems with that! As for "finetuning" the sound with cables, that's your problem...

[Harry]

Provided the speakers and cables match adequately with the M10.

Naturalment.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

I went with that... the M10 V2 is on its way.  If I don't like it, I'll return it.  If I do like it, then I'll sell all those individual components.

A couple of questions for you:  1) Does your CD transport also play other formats? and 2) One thing that I've wondered about incorporating equipment like a soundbar is how quickly will the technology become obsolete (thinking of how quickly computer technology is updated)?  Any thoughts?

PD

[DavidW]

@Pohjolas Daughter

1. No it is an Audiolab cd transport.  If you want to play sacds etc. you need a fancier player.  Some of the other posters have one.
2. A modern soundbar supports atmos and so is fairly future proof... it just doesn't sound as good as speakers! 

[DavidW]

Provided the speakers and cables match adequately with the M10.

Well the fun part about that is an excuse to upgrade speakers!!

[Harry]

1. No it is an Audiolab cd transport.  If you want to play sacds etc. you need a fancier player.  Some of the other posters have one.
2. A modern soundbar supports atmos and so is fairly future proof... it just doesn't sound as good as speakers! 

You would be surprised if you hear the soundbar of Sennheiser, Ambeo. My experience is that the Ambeo can beat systems much more expensive. My friends did agree about this, and 3 of them bought this soundbar, connected a streamer with it, two of them took Roon aboard, and it sounds fantastic. It has two Atmos speakers on board, and with movies it sounds the works. Plenty of rave reviews on the net.

[AnotherSpin]

@Pohjolas Daughter

1. No it is an Audiolab cd transport.  If you want to play sacds etc. you need a fancier player.  Some of the other posters have one.
2. A modern soundbar supports atmos and so is fairly future proof... it just doesn't sound as good as speakers! 

Wrong.

[AnotherSpin]

NAD amps are known for driving almost any speakers without problems, so you won't have problems with that! As for "finetuning" the sound with cables, that's your problem...

Not all speakers are good. The same with cables.

[DavidW]

71 dB this thread isn't the place for the usual audiophile arguments.  I will be moving your post to the other thread.  It is not that it is not allowed, it is just that it is off topic, never ending and frankly tiring on everyone.  So please don't take it as censorship.

[Valentino]

One notion on DSP: if the algorithms used are not good enough especially voices suffer.
My main stereo has been the same since 2009 but I've  used various DSP implementations for it's rather complex 4-way dipole crossover and eq over the years.
All sound bars I've heard have sounded mediocre but I haven't heard the Sennheiser mentioned.

[Harry]

One notion on DSP: if the algorithms used are not good enough especially voices suffer.
My main stereo has been the same since 2009 but I've  used various DSP implementations for it's rather complex 4-way dipole crossover and eq over the years.
All sound bars I've heard have sounded mediocre but I haven't heard the Sennheiser mentioned.

High time you do. If I was surprised, you will be surprised. It defeats almost all competitors.

[Valentino]

It really is a pity that I'm not in the market for a soundbar.

[AnotherSpin]

High time you do. If I was surprised, you will be surprised. It defeats almost all competitors.

What I find particularly attractive about one-box solutions is that ideally everything is perfectly integrated and all parts matched by one designer or designer team. You don't have to worry about matching components from different manufacturers, choose right interconnects, etc. Of course, there is still the question of external power and network cables.

[Harry]

It really is a pity that I'm not in the market for a soundbar.

Well then, you never will know how fantastic it can sound

[Harry]

What I find particularly attractive about one-box solutions is that ideally everything is perfectly integrated and all parts matched by one designer or designer team. You don't have to worry about matching components from different manufacturers, choose right interconnects, etc. Of course, there is still the question of external power and network cables.

Yes of course, I tuned the system in my office as far as the soundbar allowed me. The fine tuning resulted in a sound I did not expect. Putting a Cambridge streamer in the works proved to be the game changer, and some Audioquest cables.  Internet got a proper cable too. And of course Roon is important too.

[DavidW]

Well I've received the amp (I live so close to Crutchfield that it is next day shipping.  I'll set it up and give it a spin.

[AnotherSpin]

Well I've received the amp (I live so close to Crutchfield that it is next day shipping.  I'll set it up and give it a spin.

I hope you enjoy it. In any case, give yourself time to adapt. Every system needs time for burn-in, including the one between your ears