Thirty three and a third.

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Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Valentino on August 05, 2023, 12:48:15 PM
I am very impressed by the work of Emile Berliner Studios on this Mahler 5 with BP and HvK.

Here's a tech sales pitch video of what they do to these old 4 track tapes compared to what was done back in the days:

So far I've received two of these new audiophile releases. More on the way.


Have you ordered any more of these releases lately Valentino?  Or have they released any recently?

PD
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Irons

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 06, 2023, 10:16:25 AMHave you ordered any more of these releases lately Valentino?  Or have they released any recently?

PD

Well, I can't think of a better person to take Thirty three and a third over the line to a 100 pages. ;D
First sign of madness and all that, it has been a struggle getting thus far - who would believe it! :o 
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

DavidW

I liked that video that Valentino linked.  That is impressive that they had to sit with a score in hand and manually cut and splice in the right places.

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Irons on September 25, 2023, 11:41:10 PM

Oh, there's so much "magic" that we do (as in different views/ways of cleaning our records).  Which ways are better?  ;D I did enjoy watching it though for ideas.  Thank you for sharing it with us Irons!  :)

PD
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Valentino

#1984
Sorry for my delayed reply. Here's my TG TOS collection as of now:

I haven't really understood how great a recording venue the Boston Symphony Hall is before now. It certainly gives Decca's famous Sofiensaal a run for it's Apfelstrudeln.

A couple of these discs can be used as tracking test records. There has been complaints about the trackability of side three of the Brahms Gilels (not by me, mind you). It has a rather narrow runout with minor modulated radius 52 mm, perfect for a Stevenson DIN alignment with the inner null at 57.5 mm (Picture from Tracking Angle's review of the second release batch):



In 2024 there should be releases of a Steinberg and Boston 3LP-box with Holst, Hindemith, Strauss (and maybe Ligeti?), and Strauss 4 letzte Lieder with Janowitz/Karajan.

PD: Here's what has been released so far and what's left in stock at DG:
https://store.deutschegrammophon.com/p30-i3200
You may be luckier over at Discogs.


We audiophiles don't really like music, but we sure love the sound it makes;
Audio-Technica | Bokrand | Thorens | Cambridge Audio | Logitech | Yamaha | Topping | MiniDSP | Hypex | ICEpower | Mundorf | SEAS | Beyma

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Valentino on October 14, 2023, 07:13:16 AMSorry for my delayed reply. Here's my TG TOS collection as of now:

I haven't really understood how great a recording venue the Boston Symphony Hall is before now. It certainly gives Decca's famous Sofiensaal a run for it's Apfelstrudeln.

A couple of these discs can be used as tracking test records. There has been complaints about the trackability of side three of the Brahms Gilels (not by me, mind you). It has a rather narrow runout with minor modulated radius 52 mm, perfect for a Stevenson DIN alignment with the inner null at 57.5 mm (Picture from Tracking Angle's review of the second release batch):



In 2024 there should be releases of a Steinberg and Boston 3LP-box with Holst, Hindemith, Strauss (and maybe Ligeti?), and Strauss 4 letzte Lieder with Janowitz/Karajan.

PD: Here's what has been released so far and what's left in stock at DG:
https://store.deutschegrammophon.com/p30-i3200
You may be luckier over at Discogs



What's the one that has no words on the cover?

I do have a pressing of Ma Vlast...not certain about the others.  The prices with shipping are up there though...tempting!

Glad to hear that you are enjoying them!

PD
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Valentino

#1986
Upper right? The Persian carpet.  8)
I have a DG Resonance pressing of the Ma Vlast and an original German pressing of the Ravel Debussy.
You would not believe the improvement in sound quality before hearing it.
We audiophiles don't really like music, but we sure love the sound it makes;
Audio-Technica | Bokrand | Thorens | Cambridge Audio | Logitech | Yamaha | Topping | MiniDSP | Hypex | ICEpower | Mundorf | SEAS | Beyma

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Valentino on October 14, 2023, 09:47:07 PMUpper right? The Persian carpet.  8)
I have a DG Resonance pressing of the Ma Vlast and an original German pressing of the Ravel Debussy.
You would not believe the improvement in sound quality before hearing it.
I had missed noticing the narrow border of the carpet by the other ones.  lol  And these days, with so many albums with nothing other than a picture on the cover, I had assumed it was another one.  ;D

In any event, pleased to hear that you are enjoying them.

PD
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Valentino

#1988
DG have announced the next batch for preorder (open the pic in a new tab for readable size):

I've ordered the Steiberg box and the Janowitz from Presto Music in the UK. Nice VOEC compliant source for classical and jazz.
We audiophiles don't really like music, but we sure love the sound it makes;
Audio-Technica | Bokrand | Thorens | Cambridge Audio | Logitech | Yamaha | Topping | MiniDSP | Hypex | ICEpower | Mundorf | SEAS | Beyma

Irons

A limited edition that will sell out in no time.

https://www.theelectricrecordingco.com/news/2023-10-31-erc100-mozart-les-sonates-pour-piano-et-violin-par-lili-kraus-et-willi-boskovsky

If I had the money (and I don't) I would still feel uncomfortable spending nearly three thousand pounds on a set of LPs.

Not too much of a hardship 'making do' with the French Refereces set.

You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Irons on November 01, 2023, 01:42:14 AMA limited edition that will sell out in no time.

https://www.theelectricrecordingco.com/news/2023-10-31-erc100-mozart-les-sonates-pour-piano-et-violin-par-lili-kraus-et-willi-boskovsky

If I had the money (and I don't) I would still feel uncomfortable spending nearly three thousand pounds on a set of LPs.

Not too much of a hardship 'making do' with the French Refereces set.


Youch!  :o Glad that you have that other set.  What sort of money do they go for these days Lol?  Their names are vaguely familiar to me.  I'll have to see if I can find some of their recordings online.

PD
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Irons

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 01, 2023, 02:55:14 AMYouch!  :o Glad that you have that other set.  What sort of money do they go for these days Lol?  Their names are vaguely familiar to me.  I'll have to see if I can find some of their recordings online.

PD

Prompted by your post PD I have had a quick look on eBay and somewhat surprised at the sums involved. I paid nothing like that. I recall purchasing Volume 1 at sadly demised Classical Record Exchange and after liking what I heard locating Volume 2 on eBay.

Out of interest the set was recorded in Vienna and Paris by the legendary sound engineer André Charlin.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Irons on November 01, 2023, 07:41:18 AMPrompted by your post PD I have had a quick look on eBay and somewhat surprised at the sums involved. I paid nothing like that. I recall purchasing Volume 1 at sadly demised Classical Record Exchange and after liking what I heard locating Volume 2 on eBay.

Out of interest the set was recorded in Vienna and Paris by the legendary sound engineer André Charlin.
Thanks.  :) It's hard to figure out where to look for LPs....it's been a while since I've ordered from it, but I tend to avoid eBay (in terms of prices).  I'll have to google André Charlin (new to me too.  And, boy, you know so much!  ;)  :)  ).

PD
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Irons

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 01, 2023, 02:54:06 PMThanks.  :) It's hard to figure out where to look for LPs....it's been a while since I've ordered from it, but I tend to avoid eBay (in terms of prices).  I'll have to google André Charlin (new to me too.  And, boy, you know so much!  ;)  :)  ).

PD

Absolutely not - although very nice of you to say so. ;)

If I gave the impression of knowing the final sentence, then that is misleading. I simply relayed the info from the set notes. I am fully aware of the excellence of André Charlin as collected his recordings for years.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

vandermolen

Now playing: Batock's Hebridean Symphony
First ever recording
Like those early Havergal Brian LP releases from the Leicestershire Schools SO  this is most impressive and very atmospheric:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Pohjolas Daughter

#1995
Quote from: Irons on November 02, 2023, 01:34:36 AMAbsolutely not - although very nice of you to say so. ;)

If I gave the impression of knowing the final sentence, then that is misleading. I simply relayed the info from the set notes. I am fully aware of the excellence of André Charlin as collected his recordings for years.
I see that there's an official website dedicated to his recordings.  They've released some of them for sale on both CD and vinyl.  You can also listen to samples there.

It's here:  https://en.andrecharlin.com/ecouter

Interesting to read on Wiki about his upbringing and all of the audio equipment he invented (and patented), etc.

PD

EDIT:  Looks like I had an older copied link at first.  I corrected it.  And currently am enjoying Willi Boskovsky & Lili Kraus - Mozart : Violin Sonata B-Dur K.378 (1954) via youtube.  Lovely!
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Irons

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 02, 2023, 08:56:26 AMI see that there's an official website dedicated to his recordings.  They've released some of them for sale on both CD and vinyl.  You can also listen to samples there.

It's here:  https://en.andrecharlin.com/ecouter

Interesting to read on Wiki about his upbringing and all of the audio equipment he invented (and patented), etc.

PD

EDIT:  Looks like I had an older copied link at first.  I corrected it.  And currently am enjoying Willi Boskovsky & Lili Kraus - Mozart : Violin Sonata B-Dur K.378 (1954) via youtube.  Lovely!

Me too; Side 5 of Volume 1. K 301 & K 302.

As listening I could not help thinking that we are all guilty of taking for granted the miracle of recorded sound. Kraus and Boskovsky are there in my listening room in sound fresh as new paint demonstrating artistry from another age.

Thanks for Charlin link. Will investigate.

PD, If you find the time take a look at the life of Lili Kraus. To say interesting and eventful an understatement.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

Irons

Quote from: vandermolen on November 02, 2023, 07:06:56 AMNow playing: Batock's Hebridean Symphony
First ever recording
Like those early Havergal Brian LP releases from the Leicestershire Schools SO  this is most impressive and very atmospheric:


Not the first time I have set eyes on the cover, Jeffrey. A strange one as Gough and Davy Records is a new one on me and a fairly late release from 1978. Liner notes by Raymond Bantock, relation?

https://www.discogs.com/release/13479346-Sir-Granville-Bantock-City-Of-Hull-Youth-Orchestra-Geoffrey-Heald-Smith-Hebridean-Symphony
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

vandermolen

Quote from: Irons on November 03, 2023, 07:55:07 AMNot the first time I have set eyes on the cover, Jeffrey. A strange one as Gough and Davy Records is a new one on me and a fairly late release from 1978. Liner notes by Raymond Bantock, relation?

https://www.discogs.com/release/13479346-Sir-Granville-Bantock-City-Of-Hull-Youth-Orchestra-Geoffrey-Heald-Smith-Hebridean-Symphony
'Raymond Robert Marcus Bantock was the second son of Granville Bantock, the composer and conductor. He was born in 1900. He served in the Navy at the end of the First World War, and then obtained a Government Grant and went to New College, Oxford to read English. He spent three years in Japan as professor of English at Tokyo University and later returned to Birmingham, initially taking employment as a private coach. He married Margaret More (known as Peggy), a composer of orchestral music whose talents had been fostered by Josef Holbrooke, and whom he met at Harlech. They had six children. Raymond lived for many years at Grey Cottage, Barnt Green. He wrote the words for two songs that his father composed: Three Nocturnes for Voice and Piano , c 1925, and The Nightmare Giant , 1928. He also edited Six Great Modern One Act Plays , Tokyo 1924, and wrote Children of the Stage and The Slumberer: two plays 1929.'
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Irons

Quote from: vandermolen on November 03, 2023, 10:25:02 AM'Raymond Robert Marcus Bantock was the second son of Granville Bantock, the composer and conductor. He was born in 1900. He served in the Navy at the end of the First World War, and then obtained a Government Grant and went to New College, Oxford to read English. He spent three years in Japan as professor of English at Tokyo University and later returned to Birmingham, initially taking employment as a private coach. He married Margaret More (known as Peggy), a composer of orchestral music whose talents had been fostered by Josef Holbrooke, and whom he met at Harlech. They had six children. Raymond lived for many years at Grey Cottage, Barnt Green. He wrote the words for two songs that his father composed: Three Nocturnes for Voice and Piano , c 1925, and The Nightmare Giant , 1928. He also edited Six Great Modern One Act Plays , Tokyo 1924, and wrote Children of the Stage and The Slumberer: two plays 1929.'

Thanks, Jeffrey. A life well lived!
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.