I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...
Quote from: milk on October 24, 2012, 02:36:51 AM
I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...
Its like comparing Apples to Pears. To think in terms of being equal to this or that composer is a dead end in itself. Faure's chamber music is very well composed, that it does not move you is a personal thing. Music touches you or it doesn't, as simple as that.
Quote from: Harry on October 24, 2012, 02:58:37 AM
Its like comparing Apples to Pears. To think in terms of being equal to this or that composer is a dead end in itself. Faure's chamber music is very well composed, that it does not move you is a personal thing. Music touches you or it doesn't, as simple as that.
I'm just looking for recommendations. I hadn't discovered Dvorak's piano quartets until recently. I might try a little more to get into Faure. It is personal. But Dvorak really blew me away. Thanks for the reply. Perhaps my post is a bit shallow.
Dvorak's piano quintets and trios are superb, too, but you probably know that already.
Quote from: Harry on October 24, 2012, 02:58:37 AM
Its like comparing Apples to Pears.
That
would be a strange comparison
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Try Ignaz Lachner's trios for violin, viola and piano. They are superb.
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Quote from: Florestan on October 24, 2012, 03:27:15 AM
Try Ignaz Lachner's trios for violin, viola and piano. They are superb.
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OK! Thanks for the recommendation.
Quote from: milk on October 24, 2012, 02:36:51 AM
I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...
Beethoven is not a Romantic era composer. Faure was a great artist, his chamber music is some of the finest ever written. I notice that Tchaikovsky is not on your short list. Do you dislike his music too? If you simply haven't heard it try his chamber music. Also Arensky's Piano Trio.
Quote from: DavidW on October 24, 2012, 03:39:33 AMTchaikovsky
Yes! His piano trio is a fantastic work. Also Rachmaninoff's Trio Elegiaque No. 2, written after Tchaikovsky's death.
You could consider Farrenc, Arensky, Gernsheim, and Saint-Saens.
Quote from: milk on October 24, 2012, 02:36:51 AM
I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...
On par? Absolutely!! Faure all the way. But I like the quintets better than the quartets (NB the quintets are considerably later works). The Domus recording of the quintets is one of my favourite discs ever.
To be honest, I'm having a hard time with the idea of being a fan of the Brahms and not being a fan of the Faure. They're in a similar part of my musical map.
Quote from: orfeo on October 24, 2012, 05:31:53 AM
On par? Absolutely!! Faure all the way. But I like the quintets better than the quartets (NB the quintets are considerably later works). The Domus recording of the quintets is one of my favourite discs ever.
To be honest, I'm having a hard time with the idea of being a fan of the Brahms and not being a fan of the Faure. They're in a similar part of my musical map.
The difference between Faure quartet recordings is pretty huge. I switched from the Brilliant Classics one to Trio Wanderer's recording and was really pretty amazed at how much more powerful the music got.
My favorite romantic piano quartets and quintets just have to include Schumann, Dvorak, Taneyev, Faure, and ...Herzogenberg!
Fauré's Piano Quintets are absolutely fantastic works. His Piano Quartets are almost as great.
Taneyev's works kick ass.
As an Elgarian I find Elgar's Piano Quintet magnificent!
Quote from: 71 dB on October 24, 2012, 08:06:12 AM
Fauré's Piano Quintets are absolutely fantastic works. His Piano Quartets are almost as great.
Taneyev's works kick ass.
As an Elgarian I find Elgar's Piano Quintet magnificent!
I'll keep listening to the Faure. Perhaps it will grow on me. I like the Sherzo in the first quartet. I'll check our Elgar.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Cesar Franck Piano Quintet is a very beautiful, passionate work.
Regarding Fauré my first choice goes to the piano Trio and the two piano Quintets.
The best piano Quartets I ever heard (excepting Mozart) are those of Brahms, in special the first and the third.
I recently discovered the Trio Hochelaga and their recordings of, for the most part, non-mainstream French chamber music - Dubois, Migot, Lekeu, etc.
Here's a lik for more info: http://www.atmaclassique.com/En/Artistes/ArtisteDisco.aspx?ArtisteID=1212
Beautiful warm sound and playing.
Not exactly a piano quintet but Chausson's Concert for Violin, Piano and String Quartet is a gem.
I would like to recommend Juliusz Zarębski's Piano Quintet.
This is wonderful
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Quote from: mszczuj on October 25, 2012, 12:18:18 AM
I would like to recommend Juliusz Zarębski's Piano Quintet.
Which is being released in December on Hyperion! Click here for sound samples. (http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dc.asp?dc=D_CDA67905&vw=dc)
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Foerster piano trios:
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A favorite recording of the Taneyev Trio:
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I listened to Faure's 2nd quartet this morning.
I'm in danger of having to retract the statement that I prefer the quintets!
A fairly forceful work by Faure's standards.
Quote from: milk on October 24, 2012, 02:36:51 AM
I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...
There is a wonderful Thread called 'Piano Quintets'.
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Friedrich Kuhlau (1786—1832) Piano Quartets — Copenhagen Piano Quartet
[ Quartets Nos 1 & 2 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l18YD0jDEfPogThkPs8g4rR-lSzz-7wnU) | Quartet No 3 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mijSusuyKHAmpx_PF6JuTH2KoodJ0TwLI) ]
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Arthur Foote (1853—1937) Piano Trios — Arden Trio (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lubLnqaWI4S3mIpwGNdsoFcp-iMTkgzO8)Quote from: Wikipedia
Arthur William Foote (March 5, 1853 in Salem, Massachusetts – April 8, 1937 in Boston, Massachusetts) was an American classical composer.
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Even though American composer Arthur Foote (1853—1937) lived well into the 20th century, his music is definitely a product of 19th century Romanticism, particularly German Romanticism. This isn't to say his music is derivative, but it does hark back to modes established by Mozart, Schumann and Brahms...
Artistic Quality: 10
Sound Quality: 10
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Quote from: Jeffrey Lehman (Amazon)
Beautiful, intimate, pieces. Excellent performances.
I have all 3 volumes of Arthur Foote's chamber music on Naxos, and consider all three to be wonderful, but this disc is the best of the three.
Foote's music was not groundbreaking, radical or new, but what he did, he did well. The result, classical music that will delight people who want a classical music experience...
Jeffrey Lehman (Amazon)
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A couple of nice, but probably less-played quintets:
Dohnanyi - Piano Quintet No. 2
Granados - Piano Quintet
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White hot romantic works, both.
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These days I was listening to several works from this CD, among them the two Piano Trios and Piano Quintet by Giuseppe Martucci. Firmly romantic, lyric, intimate, refined.
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