I've been trawling through my university's online catalog looking at our music collection, and I've found some old LPs that appear to have never been released on disc. Has anybody heard these / how are they / are they actually on CD somewhere nowadays?
BEETHOVEN Piano Concertos 1 and 4 - Robert Casadesus, Eduard van Beinum, Concertgebouw, 1959
BEETHOVEN Violin Concerto - Arthur Grumiaux, Eduard van Beinum, Concertgebouw, 1958
"Scherchen conducts music for multiple orchestras" [Beethoven, Orff, Gabrieli]
BERLIOZ Symphonie fantastique - LSO, Pierre Boulez, 1968
BERLIOZ Symphonie fantastique - Moscow RSO, Gennady Rozhdestvensky, 1968
[they also have the 'fantastique' by the New York Philharmonic under Mitropoulos, which was uploaded here on GMG and is absolutely fantastic]
BRAHMS Symphony No 2 - Los Angeles Philharmonic, Carlo Maria Giulini, 1981
BRAHMS Symphony No 4 - Boston Symphony, Erich Leinsdorf, 1968
"The 25-year retrospective concert of the music of JOHN CAGE"
CHOPIN Mazurkas, Scherzo in B minor, etude op. 25 no. 7 - Ivan Moravec, Connoisseur Society, 1969
FRANCK Symphony in D minor - John Barbirolli, Czech Philharmonic, 1967
MEDTNER Piano music - Ross Pratt, from the "Yorkshire Records" label
RACHMANINOFF Preludes - Constance Keene, date unknown
SCHUBERT Sonata in A minor D. 845 and two impromptus - Sviatoslav Richter on the "Monitor" label
SCHUBERT All the impromptus - Rudolf Firkusny, "1960?"
SCRIABIN Sonatas 5, 6, 8, 10 - Igor Zhukov, 1970
SHOSTAKOVICH Symphonies 7 and 9 - Vaclav Neumann, Czech Philharmonic, 1975
TCHAIKOVSKY The Tempest; GLAZUNOV Stenka Razin - Philharmonia, Anatole Fistoulari, 1958
VILLA LOBOS conducts Villa Lobos - Forest of the Amazon - Symphony of the Air, 1959
"T.S. Eliot Reads Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats"
[I added a few comments]
I suggest checking Amazon, hmv.co.jp, mdt.co.uk, Google, etc.
Quote from: Brian on December 11, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
BERLIOZ Symphonie fantastique - Moscow RSO, Gennady Rozhdestvensky, 1968
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2815980
There's also live recording from London in 1971 on the BBC label.
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[they also have the 'fantastique' by the New York Philharmonic under Mitropoulos, which was uploaded here on GMG and is absolutely fantastic]
That was me. I think this may have made it onto CD at one time in France or Greece. There's a live performance on CD, and Mitropoulos is usually supposed have been much better live than in the studio.
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BRAHMS Symphony No 2 - Los Angeles Philharmonic, Carlo Maria Giulini, 1981
In Japan at least: http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/1478482
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CHOPIN Mazurkas, Scherzo in B minor, etude op. 25 no. 7 - Ivan Moravec, Connoisseur Society, 1969
Reissued on VAI and Supraphon.
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//SU35832.htm
Any Moravec is woth having, particularly these Connoisseur Society Chopin recordings.
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FRANCK Symphony in D minor - John Barbirolli, Czech Philharmonic, 1967
Reissued a couple times on Supraphon.
Nothing special. Stick with Stokowski (on Cala) and Monteux.
QuoteBEETHOVEN Piano Concertos 1 and 4 - Robert Casadesus, Eduard van Beinum, Concertgebouw, 1959
http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Piano-Concertos-Nos-4/dp/B00005KKNR
Only $135!
Quote from: Brian on December 11, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
BEETHOVEN Piano Concertos 1 and 4 - Robert Casadesus, Eduard van Beinum, Concertgebouw, 1959
This was issued in the Casadesus Edition a few years back, and while it's a good disc, it's not worth the asking price now. I'm not sure what the "extra tracks" are; my copy has only the two cited works on it.
Quote from: Brian on December 11, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
BRAHMS Symphony No 2 - Los Angeles Philharmonic, Carlo Maria Giulini, 1981
This is availble as an ArkivCD reissue now. Who knows, some of the other titles on your list may be reissued similarly. (These are two discs I already new about.)
Quote from: Brian on December 11, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
SCHUBERT Sonata in A minor D. 845 and two impromptus - Sviatoslav Richter on the "Monitor" label
Yeah, this one has made it to CD, first by Monitor then by Melodiya, who actually owns the copyright (Monitor was a western outlet for Melodiya back in the day). Both are OOP and very expensive.
The sonata however (minus the impromptus) is currently available on a misprinted Urania CD (pirate) which lists it as D.850.
This the issue I have and it's pretty much self-recommending Schubert. However, being pre-western Richter (Moscow, 1956) he'd yet to find the last pinch of Viennese lilt in the music which for him only became second nature after his exposure to the west (by 1961 he'd have Schubert thoroughly dialed-in).
But that's a minor niggle. It's still exceptional stuff.
The sound on my Urania CD is acceptable mono.
The version of Beethoven's Violin Concerto by Grumiaux and van Beinum is my favorite. But I never could find it on CD.
Regarding Brahms 2nd Symphony, Giulini gave a much better version, with the Philharmonia.
Quote from: Brian on December 11, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
I've been trawling through my university's online catalog looking at our music collection, and I've found some old LPs that appear to have never been released on disc. Has anybody heard these / how are they / are they actually on CD somewhere nowadays?
BEETHOVEN Piano Concertos 1 and 4 - Robert Casadesus, Eduard van Beinum, Concertgebouw, 1959
BEETHOVEN Violin Concerto - Arthur Grumiaux, Eduard van Beinum, Concertgebouw, 1958
"Scherchen conducts music for multiple orchestras" [Beethoven, Orff, Gabrieli]
BERLIOZ Symphonie fantastique - LSO, Pierre Boulez, 1968
BERLIOZ Symphonie fantastique - Moscow RSO, Gennady Rozhdestvensky, 1968
[they also have the 'fantastique' by the New York Philharmonic under Mitropoulos, which was uploaded here on GMG and is absolutely fantastic]
BRAHMS Symphony No 2 - Los Angeles Philharmonic, Carlo Maria Giulini, 1981
BRAHMS Symphony No 4 - Boston Symphony, Erich Leinsdorf, 1968
"The 25-year retrospective concert of the music of JOHN CAGE"
CHOPIN Mazurkas, Scherzo in B minor, etude op. 25 no. 7 - Ivan Moravec, Connoisseur Society, 1969
FRANCK Symphony in D minor - John Barbirolli, Czech Philharmonic, 1967
MEDTNER Piano music - Ross Pratt, from the "Yorkshire Records" label
RACHMANINOFF Preludes - Constance Keene, date unknown
SCHUBERT Sonata in A minor D. 845 and two impromptus - Sviatoslav Richter on the "Monitor" label
SCHUBERT All the impromptus - Rudolf Firkusny, "1960?"
SCRIABIN Sonatas 5, 6, 8, 10 - Igor Zhukov, 1970
SHOSTAKOVICH Symphonies 7 and 9 - Vaclav Neumann, Czech Philharmonic, 1975
TCHAIKOVSKY The Tempest; GLAZUNOV Stenka Razin - Philharmonia, Anatole Fistoulari, 1958
VILLA LOBOS conducts Villa Lobos - Forest of the Amazon - Symphony of the Air, 1959
"T.S. Eliot Reads Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats"
I think the only one I have is the Grumiaux. Grumiaux's Bach Sonatas and Partitas for Unaccompanied Violin are incomparable, but I think his Beethoven is disappointing. Actually, I've never found any recording of this work that I've really been happy with.
Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on December 12, 2008, 03:11:25 AM
I think the only one I have is the Grumiaux. Grumiaux's Bach Sonatas and Partitas for Unaccompanied Violin are incomparable, but I think his Beethoven is disappointing. Actually, I've never found any recording of this work that I've really been happy with.
Not Francescatti/Walter?
hmmmm, don't think I have heard that one. Thanks. I love Francescatti's playing (with Casadesus) in the Beethoven violin sonatas.
Quote from: Brian on December 11, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
RACHMANINOFF Preludes - Constance Keene, date unknown
SCRIABIN Sonatas 5, 6, 8, 10 - Igor Zhukov, 1970
VILLA LOBOS conducts Villa Lobos - Forest of the Amazon - Symphony of the Air, 1959
Keene's Rachmaninov has been released on CD on some obscure label Protone, now defunct I think, CD out of print.
http://www.amazon.com/Keene-plays-Rachmaninov-Preludes/dp/B000003BOK
Zhukov's first Scriabin cycle for Melodiya has unfortunately never been released on CD, to my knowledge. There is much later second cycle on Telos.
Villa-Lobos (I think that shoud be it) is on CD but from EMI Korea, available from hmv.jp.
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2676591
Quote from: Daverz on December 12, 2008, 03:19:56 AM
Not Francescatti/Walter?
That is until you hear the definitive Kulenkampff version.
And what do you think of the very first recording? (Josef Wolfsthal-Manfred Gurlitt
and the Berlin PH.O., 1928?)
Quote from: DFO on December 17, 2008, 03:47:24 AM
And what do you think of the very first recording? (Josef Wolfsthal-Manfred Gurlitt
and the Berlin PH.O., 1928?)
Yes, I have these and have always thought is was a very good performance, a shame more people have not heard it. I feel sure it is now available on CD? However, it is not really the first performance on record. Isolde Menges recorded an acoustic version in 1924 for HMV on HMV D767/71 with Royal Albert Hall Orchestra conducted Sir Landon Ronald with the Joachim cadenzas. Sadly, I only have the first movement. It is a very fine performance from Menges who was an Auer pupil. She was a wonderful solo Bach player as anyone who has any of her Bach recordings will tell you.the