First of a series :)
These lists are selective.
If I have missed a recording of a particular work I would be overjoyed to hear of such a recording. If anyone wishes to know the label and issue number for a particular work which has been recorded I would be delighted to supply these :)
Brazil:
Camargo Guarnieri: Symphony No.7 (?) If this symphony does exist BIS might add it to its series.
Heitor Villa-Lobos Symphony No.5 is apparently lost.
Italy:
Alfredo Casella: Symphonies No. 1(1905-06), No.2(1908-09)
Norway:
Klaus Egge: Symphonies No. 3 'Louisville'(1957), No.5 'Sinfonia dolce'(1968-69)
Ragnar Soderlind: Symphonies No. 1(1975-79), No.4 'Kvitsunn'(1995-2001), No.6 'Todesahnung'(1988-89), No.7 'La Campane
dell'Atlantico' for voice, chorus and orchestra(2002), No.8 'Jean Sibelius in memoriam'(2004-05)
I believe that Harald Saeverud withdrew his Symphony No.1.
Poland:
Grazyna Bacewicz: Symphonies No. 1((1945), No.2(1951), No.4(1953)
Andrzej Panufnik: Symphony No.7 'Metasinfonia' for organ, strings and timpani(1978)
Alexander Tansman: Symphony No.1(1916). Will presumably be issued by Chandos in its ongoing Tansman series.
Sweden:
Hilding Rosenberg: Symphonies No. 1(1917-32), No.7(1968), No.8 'Sinfonia serena'(1974-80)
Allan Pettersson's Symphony No.1 is incomplete. Dag Wiren withdrew his Symphony No.1
U.S.A.:
George Antheil: Symphony in F(1925-26), Symphony No.2(1931-36), Tragic Symphony(1945-46)
Paul Creston: Symphony No.6 for organ and orchestra(1982)
David Diamond: Symphonies No. 6(1951), No. 7(1957), No. 9(1985), No.10(198?), No.11(1989-91)
Philip Glass: Symphony No.7 'A Toltec Symphony'(2005).
Glass's own label, Orange Mountain, will presumably get round to recording this symphony.
Morton Gould: Symphony No.1(1943)
Roy Harris: Symphonies No. 10 'Abraham Lincoln' for speaker, chorus, brass, 2 pianos and percussion(1965), No.12 'Pere
Marquette' for tenor, speaker and orchestra(1969), No.13 'Bicentennial Symphony' for chorus and orchestra,
solo voices and speakers(1976). Naxos has begun a project to record all the Harris symphonies.
Alan Hovhaness: Symphonies Nos. 5(1953), No.7 'Nanga Parvat'(1959), No.8 'Arjuna'(1947), No.12(1960), No.13 'Ardent Song'(1953),
No.14 'Ararat'(1960), No.16 'Kayagum'(1962), No.17 'Symphony for Metal Orchestra(1963), No.18 'Circe'(1963),
No.23 'Ani'(1972), No.26(1975), No.27(1976), No.28(1976), No.29(1976), No.30(1976), No.32 'The Broken Wings'
(1977), No.33(1977), No.34(1977), No.35(1978), No.36(1978), No.37(1978),No.38(1978), No.40(1979),
No.41(1979), No.42(1979),No.43(1979), No.44(1980), No.45(1954), No.46 'To the Green Mountains'(1980),
No.47 'Walla walla, Land of Many Waters'(1980), No.48 'Vision of Andromeda'(1981), No.51(1982), No.52
'Journey to Vega'(1983), No.54(1983), No.55(1983), No.56(1983), No.57'Cold Mountain'(1983), No.58
'Symphonia Sacra'(1985), No.59(1985), No.61(1986), No.62'Oh Let Man Not Forget These Words Divine'(1987-88),
No.64 'Agiochook'(1989-90), No.65 'Artstakh'(1991), , No.66'Hymn to Glacier Peak'(1992), No.67 'Hymn to
the Mountains'(1992).
Naxos has recorded Symphonies Nos. 7 'Nanga Parvat', 14 'Ararat' and 23' Ani for future release.
George Rochberg: Symphonies No. 3 for double chorus, chamber chorus and orchestra(1966-69), No.4(1976), No.6(1986-87)
Ellen Taaffe Zwilich: Symphony No.5(Concerto for Orchestra) (2008)
As far as I am aware the following symphonies were withdrawn by their composers-
Benjamin Lees: Symphony No.1
Peter Mennin: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
Vincent Persichetti: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
Wallingford Riegger: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
William Schuman: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
In addition to the other symphonies by Mennin, Persichetti, Riegger and Schuman, the complete symphonies of Samuel Barber, Leonard Bernstein, Aaron Copland, John Corigliano, Don Gillis, Howard Hanson, John Harbison, Charles Ives, Walter Piston, Ned Rorem, Christopher Rouse, Roger Sessions, Randall Thompson and Virgil Thomson can be found on cd.
More to follow when I recover ;D
Quote from: Dundonnell on December 29, 2008, 06:34:33 PM
As far as I am aware the following symphonies were withdrawn by their composers-
Peter Mennin: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
Vincent Persichetti: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
William Schuman: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
Charles Wuorinen . . . from notes to the premiere of the
Eighth Symphony:
Of the eight works designated by the composer as symphonies, the first two are juvenilia and are unavailable for performance; the published Third Symphony (1959) the composer considers a "pubescent" work.
Bohemia:
Vitezslav Novak: many of his works, including, afaik, three of his four operas and his two symphonies, Autumn and May. Considering he's one of the major Czech composers, this is a real shame.
The sheer variety of classical music on CD, whether orchestral, operatic, chamber or whatever , never ceases to amaze me.
The gaps are constantly shrinking. We CD collectors are unbelievably lucky ! There's an embarassment of riches out there.
;D 8) ;D :)
It's an incredible time.
And Kwoon must have 300 recordings of the Rakhmaninov Third Concerto by now ;D
Quote from: Superhorn on December 30, 2008, 06:45:52 AM
The sheer variety of classical music on CD, whether orchestral, operatic, chamber or whatever , never ceases to amaze me.
The gaps are constantly shrinking. We CD collectors are unbelievably lucky ! There's an embarassment of riches out there.
;D 8) ;D :)
You are absolutely correct :) :)
For rare French repertoire go to : http://www.ina.fr/. Institut National de l'Audiovisuel. One can buy complete performances - listen (for free) to fragments.
Go to Archives télé et radio and...type in a name - composer,conductor,singer... (top left).
I have no idea how much there is ....I'll see if I can find a few tasty morsels...Many gaps are waiting to be filled!
Peter
ps : After a few minutes of browsing ,I discovered that downloads are quite cheap ( ca 5 - 8 €). That would get you a complete "La Samaritaine" ,opera-oratorio ( actually an "Evangile -Mystère" by Edmond Rostand) by Max d'Ollone in a vintage 1955 performance with Berthe Monmart as the Samaritaine and André Vessières as Jesus....Conducted by Tony Aubin.
I found an organconcerto by Roger Calmel with Pierre Cochereau as soloist and several symphonies by Henri Martelli, Jacques Charpentier,Pierre Wissmer etc......Many performances by the former ORTF Chamber Orchestra, works by Nicolas Nabokov,Henri Tomasi, Pierre Capdevielle...
I'm listening now to Jean Rivier's "Christus rex" for mezzo soprano, choir and orchestra. Jean Fournet conducts the French National Orch. & chorus. Mary Luce Bellary is the soloist.1970 performance.
Part 2 :) (I should stress again that I am listing symphonies which are not available on CD. The symphonies of many, many 20th Century composers are now available in complete recorded editions.)
Australia:
Malcolm Williamson: Symphonies No. 2 'Pilgrim pa havet'(1968), No.3 'The Icy Mirror' for soprano, mezzo-soprano, two
baritones, chorus and orchestra(1972), No.4 'Jubilee'(1977), No. 6(1982)
Austria:
Ernst Krenek: Symphony No.4(1947), Symphony for Winds and Percussion(1924-25), Little Symphony(1928),
Symphony 'Pallas Athene'(1954). CPO has recorded Symphony No.4 for future release.
Emil von Reznicek: Symphony No.3 'Im alten Stil'(1918). CPO is recording the complete Reznicek symphonies.
Czech Republic:
Josef Foerster: Symphony No.5(1929).
MDG is recording the complete Foerster symphonies.
Viktor Kalabis: Symphonies No.1, No.4(1972)
Vitezslav Novak: Autumn Symphony for chorus and orchestra(1934), May Symphony for soloists, chorus and orchestra(1943)
France:
Andre Jolivet: Symphonies No. 1(1954), No.2(1959)
Charles Koechlin: Symphonies No.1(1926), No.2(1943-44), Symphony in A major(1893-1900), Symphonie d' Hymnes(1936)
Paul Le Flem: Symphonies No. 2(1956), No.3(1970)
Latvia:
Janis Ivanovs: Symphonies No. 6 'Latvian'(1949), No.7(1953), No.9(1960), No.11(1965), No.13 'Symphonia Humana'(1969),
No.15 'Sinfonia Ipsa'(1972), No.16(1974), No.17(1976), No.18(1977), No.19(1979), No.21(1983)
Russia:
Gavril Popov: Symphonies No.3 'The Spanish'(1946) for strings, No.4'Honour to the Motherland' for soloists, chorus and
orchestra(1949)
Maximilian Steinberg: Symphonies No.3(1928), No.4 'Turksib'(1933), No.5 'Symphonic Rhapsody on Uzbek Themes"(1942)
Boris Tishchenko: Symphonies No.2 'Marina' for chrus and orchestra(1964), No.4 for orchestra with narrator(1974)
Moisei Weinberg: Symphonies No.1(1942), No.3(1949), No.8 'Flowers of Poland' for tenor, chorus and orchestra(1964), No.9
'Everlasting Times' for narrator, chorus and orchestra(1940-67), No.11 'Festive Symphony' for chorus and
orchestra(1969), No.13(1976), No.15 'I Believe in This Earth' for soprano, baritone, women's chorus and
orchestra, Symphony 'Kaddish'(1992).
Chandos MAY be planning to record these but that must be regarded as doubtful.
Ukraine:
Valentin Silvestrov: Symphonies No. 1(1963), No.3 'Eschatophony'(1966), No.7(2002-03).
BIS is planning a Silvestrov series.
Tüür's first symphony has yet to be recorded and there is perhaps a fifth one to be written in the next few years. 21st century, sorry!
The only work of Novak which I have heard is the marvelous cantata "The Storm", which I have on Supraphon coupled with Dvorak's"The Spectre's Bride", bothconducted by Krombholc.
On the basis of this, I would definitely like to hear more by this composer, who was a pupil of Dvorak. The cantata deals with the daily lives of sailors on a ship and an Ethiopian king who has been taken prisoner and enslaved on it, and a storm and shipwreck.
The Spectre's Bride is also wonderful, and is an oratorio about a young woman who has lost her betrothed in battle, and who conjures up his ghost and narrowly avoids disaster.
I don't know if this Supraphon 2 disk set is still available, but I recommend it highly.
I have an LP recording of Janis Ivanovs Symphony 11 (one of his best) but it has never made it to CD due to a dispute with the 90+ year old conductor.
Part 3
Denmark:
Niels Viggo Bentzon: Symphonies No.1, No.2(1945), No.6(1950), No.9(1960), No.10(1963), No.11(1964), No.12(1964), No.13(1965),
No.14, No.15(1980), No.16(1987), No.17(1988), No.18(1988), No.19(1989), No.20(1988), No.21, No.22,
No.23, No.24
Paul von Klenau: Symphonies No.2, No.3 for solo, choir and orchestra, No.4 'Dante Symphony', No.6 'Nordische Symphonie'(1940),
No.8(194?), No.9 for choir and orchestra(194?)
Finland:
Kalevi Aho: Symphonies No. 6(1979-80), No.13 'Sinfonisia luonnekuvia"(2003)
BIS is committed to continuing their Aho cycle.
Aare Merikanto: Symphonies No. 1(1914-16), No.2 'Sotasinfonia'(1918), No.3(1952-53)
Ernest Pingoud: Symphonies No.1(1920), No.2(1921), No.3(1923-27)
Netherlands:
Henk Badings: Symphonies No. 1(1932), No.3(1934), No.4(1943), No.6 'Psalmensymphonie' for choir and orchestra(1953), No.8(1956),
No.10(1961), No.11 'Sinfonia giocosa'(1964), No.13 for wind instruments(1966), No.14 'Symphonische Triptiek'(1968).
CPO is recording a complete cycle of the Badings symphonies.
Cornelis Dopper: Symphonies No.1 'Diana: a Dance Symphony'(1895-1921), No.4 'Sinfonietta'(1905), No.5 'Symphonia epica'(1908)
Jan van Gilse: Symphonies No.3 'Ehrebung' for soprano and orchestra(1903), No.4(1910-15).
CPO will be recording these works.
Leon Orthel: Symphonies No.1(1936), No.5 'Musica iniziale'(1960), No.6(1961)
Willem Pijper: Symphony No.1(1917). CPO will apparently be recording a Pijper cycle.
(Finding dates of composition for some of these symphonies has been incredibly difficult!)
Part 4 will be devoted to British symphonies.
Oh....by the way...I hope that someone finds all this of some interest ::) It has taken me a long time to compile(he says snarling! ;D)
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 02, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
Finland:
Kalevi Aho: Symphonies No. 6(1979-80), No.13 'Sinfonisia luonnekuvia"(2003), No.14 'Rituaaleja'(2007).
BIS is committed to continuing their Aho cycle.
Do we have an Aho thread? I've been interested in his work since hearing the Fröst-commissioned clarinet concerto, and it never occurred to me until now to investigate his symphonic output... I know he's written a tuba concerto, but maybe that's not the best second step. :P
Yes we do :) I started it ;D
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,7786.0.html
Colin,
Do you mean stuff that has never been recorded or that has never made it to CD?
For example Ovchinnikov's great score for the Russian film 'War and Peace' (Bondurchak) was on LP but I have been waiting for decades for a CD.
Jeffrey
I have restricted the lists to music that is available on CD only.
That does not mean-of course-that all of these CDs are easily obtainable :(
I would like to see the old Supraphon Sinfonia Pacis by Kalabis on CD (there was a not-so-good alternative version on CD).
Music by Goossens and Novack come to mind.
Quote from: vandermolen on January 02, 2009, 04:28:38 PM
Colin,
Do you mean stuff that has never been recorded or that has never made it to CD?
For example Ovchinnikov's great score for the Russian film 'War and Peace' (Bondurchak) was on LP but I have been waiting for decades for a CD.
Jeffrey
Dude! That score RAWKS! 8)
Here are some Vyacheslav
Ovchinnikov links:
http://hcl.harvard.edu/hfa/films/2006spring/ovchinnikov.html
YouTube Interview with
Ovchinnikov:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVsl6Pg1Zw&feature=related
And you will see he really IS OvCHINnikov! :o
Part 4(and last)
United Kingdom:
Edgar Bainton: Symphony No.1 'Before Sunrise' for contralto, chorus and orchestra(1907)
Sir Richard Rodney Bennett: Symphonies No.1(1965), No.2(1968)
York Bowen: Symphonies No.1(1902), No.3(1951)
Havergal Brian: Symphonies No. 5 'Wine of Summer' for baritone and orchestra((1937), No.13(1959), No.14(1960), No.19(1961), No.22
(1965), No.23(1965), No.24(1965), No.26(1966),No.27(1967), No.28(1967), No.29(1967), No.30(1967)
Alan Bush: Symphonies No.3 'Byron' for baritone, chorus and orchestra(1960), No.4 'Lascaux'(1973)
Arthur Butterworth: Symphonies No.2(1964), No.3 'Sinfonia Borealis'(1979), No.5(2003), No.6(2006), 'A Moorland Symphony' for
bass, chorus and orchestra(1967)
Arnold Cooke: Symphonies No.2(1963), No.4(1974), No.5(1978-79), No.6(1983-84)
Peter Racine Fricker: Symphony No.1(1948-49), No.3(1960), No.4(1966), No.5 for organ and orchestra(1975-76)
John Linton Gardner: Symphony No.2(1985)
Iain Hamilton: Symphonies No.1(1948), No.2(1951), No.3 'Spring'(1981), No.4(1981)
Alun Hoddinott: Symphonies No.1(1955), No.4(1969), No.7 for organ and orchestra(1989), No.8 for brass and
percussion(1992), No. 9 'A Vision of Eternity' for brass and orchestra(1993), No.10(1999)
Joseph Holbrooke: Symphonies No.1 'Homage to Edgar Allan Poe" for chorus and orchestra(1907), No.2 'Apollo and the
Seaman' for chorus and orchestra(1907), No.3 'Ships'(1925), No.5 'Wild Wales' for brass band(1930s),
No.6 'Old England' for military band(1928), No.7 for strings(1929), No.8 'Dance Symphony' for piano and
orchestra(1930)
Cameo Classics have apparently recorded the Symphony No.4 'The Little One:
Homage to Schubert"(1928)
Daniel Jones: Symphonies No.1(1945), No.2(1950), No.3(1951), No.5(1958), No.10(1981), No.11(1983), Symphony 'In
Memory of John Fussell'(1992)
Kenneth Leighton: Symphony No.1(1964)
David Matthews: Symphonies No.2(1976-79), No.6(2007)
Dutton intend to record Nos. 2 and 6.
Sir Peter Maxwell Davies: Symphonies No.7(2000), No.8 'Antarctic'(2000)
John McCabe: Symphonies No.1' Elegy'(1965), No.3 'Hommages'(1973), Symphony 'Edward II'(1998)
Anthony Milner: Symphonies No.2 for soloists, chorus and orchestra(1978), No.3(1987)
Robin Orr: Symphonies N.2(1970), No.3(1978)
Cyril Rootham: Symphony No.2 for chorus and orchestra(1936-38)
Robert Still: Symphonies No.1(1954), No.2(1956)
William Wordsworth: Symphonies No.1(1944), No.4(1951), No.5(1960), No.6 'Elegiaca' for soloists, chorus and orchestra(1977),
No.7 'Cosmos'(1980), No.8 'Pax Hominibus'(1986)
Excellent list, Colin! Re my own particular obsession, Havergal Brian:
- No. 10 has been recorded, as you know, by the Leicestershire Schools Symphony Orchestra, and was re-issued on CD (Unicorn-Kanchana) in the 1980s, along with Symphony No. 21
- No. 22 was recorded by the same orchestra in the 70s, never put on CD, but on YouTube you'll find that the indefatigable John Whitmore has turned the LP into a slide show with the music (and Psalm 23 and the Fifth English Suite, too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBG62zmKYG4
Here's the mp3:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m2nzll2yjwi/Havergal Brian - Symphony 22.mp3
What comes to mind for me is the symphonies by Hilding Rosenberg (only No 3 exists in a modern recording with Andrew Davis). No 2, 4, 5 and 6 have been on CD but we need an integrated cycle (says he pompously). Rosenberg IMHO is as important as Holmboe, Tubin and Wiren. Havergal Brian Symphony No 10 is a big gap in the catalogue although I have the old Unicorn CD as is Janis Ivanovs Symphony 11 and most shamefully of all the symphonies etc of Wilfrid Josephs - a terrible omission.
http://www.musicweb.uk.net/josephs/INDEX.htm
Also, I would love to see the old Portugalsom recordings of the Braga Santos symphonies back in circulation ;D
A very valuable thread that I suppose are scrutinized closely by the executives at Universal, EMI and Sony.
Quote from: erato on January 04, 2009, 02:14:37 AM
A very valuable thread that I suppose are scrutinized closely by the executives at Universal, EMI and Sony.
Good news! After careful scrutiny, the executives at Universal, EMI and Sony have
finally decided on a special joint release of Boris von Puffnstuff's never-recorded masterpiece, Symphony No. 13 "Every Child Needs a Hug" for amplified orchestra, overweight tenor, warbling teen soprano, Irish dancers, and scantily clad female string quartet. It'll include a special pop-up booklet of the cast.
I'd like to point out that the Bacewicz 3rd has been released on CD.
Quote from: Grazioso on January 04, 2009, 04:28:52 AM
Good news! After careful scrutiny, the executives at Universal, EMI and Sony have finally decided on a special joint release of Boris von Puffnstuff's never-recorded masterpiece, Symphony No. 13 "Every Child Needs a Hug" for amplified orchestra, overweight tenor, warbling teen soprano, Irish dancers, and scantily clad female string quartet. It'll include a special pop-up booklet of the cast.
At last!
Quote from: vandermolen on January 04, 2009, 01:58:03 AM
Also, I would love to see the old Portugalsom recordings of the Braga Santos symphonies back in circulation ;D
Don't we all!
Quote from: Grazioso on January 04, 2009, 04:28:52 AM
Good news! After careful scrutiny, the executives at Universal, EMI and Sony have finally decided on a special joint release of Boris von Puffnstuff's never-recorded masterpiece, Symphony No. 13 "Every Child Needs a Hug" for amplified orchestra, overweight tenor, warbling teen soprano, Irish dancers, and scantily clad female string quartet. It'll include a special pop-up booklet of the cast.
This is great news indeed! I have been searching for this work for decades along with Messerschmitsky's Catastrophic Symphony of 1943. ;D
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 02, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
Henk Badings: Symphonies No. 1, No.3(1934), No.4(1943), No.5(1949), No.6 'Psalmensymphonie' for choir and orchestra(1953),
No.8(1956), No.9 for string orchestra(1960), No.10(1961), No.11 'Sinfonia giocosa'(1964), No.13 for wind
instruments(1966), No.14 'Symphonische Triptiek'(1968).
CPO is recording a complete cycle of the Badings symphonies..
Willem Pijper: Symphony No.1(1917). CPO will apparently be recording a Pijper cycle.
Hear Hear on both these!!
I am delighted that some members are finding these lists of interest ;D They were never intended to be comprehensive-such a task would have been quite beyond me-but were focused on the sort of composers whose music appeals to me :)
I am also conscious that there will be some mistakes and I am very grateful to those who have drawn attention to some of these. I know that some of the symphonies which were recorded and transferred to cd are extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to locate, eg the Brian Unicorn cds to which Jezetha refers, or only available at vastly inflated prices!
Jeffrey: I did consider including Wilfred Josephs but desisted because I was frightened of being accused of concentrating too much on British composers ;D That is why Stanley Bate wasn't included either.
I only wish that the recording executives of EMI etc would consider such gaps in the repertoire but we know that won't happen, but the smaller companies.....? It was only whilst doing the research for this project that I discovered that Cameo Classics have recorded Holbrooke's 4th Symphony.
Oh...and I shall try to update these lists as new symphonies become available(says he in great hope and expectation :) :))
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 04, 2009, 06:07:43 PM
I am delighted that some members are finding these lists of interest ;D They were never intended to be comprehensive-such a task would have been quite beyond me-but were focused on the sort of composers whose music appeals to me :)
I am also conscious that there will be some mistakes and I am very grateful to those who have drawn attention to some of these. I know that some of the symphonies which were recorded and transferred to cd are extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to locate, eg the Brian Unicorn cds to which Jezetha refers, or only available at vastly inflated prices!
Jeffrey: I did consider including Wilfred Josephs but desisted because I was frightened of being accused of concentrating too much on British composers ;D That is why Stanley Bate wasn't included either.
I only wish that the recording executives of EMI etc would consider such gaps in the repertoire but we know that won't happen, but the smaller companies.....? It was only whilst doing the research for this project that I discovered that Cameo Classics have recorded Holbrooke's 4th Symphony.
Oh...and I shall try to update these lists as new symphonies become available(says he in great hope and expectation :) :))
Stanley Bate's Third Symphony is an important omission from the catalogue (I have never heard it but have read great things about it). At least the lovely Viola Concerto is now on Dutton.
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 04, 2009, 06:07:43 PM
I am delighted that some members are finding these lists of interest ;D They were never intended to be comprehensive-such a task would have been quite beyond me-but were focused on the sort of composers whose music appeals to me :)
Oh...and I shall try to update these lists as new symphonies become available(says he in great hope and expectation :) :))
Please do continue to update this thread. As an explorer/collector of complete symphony cycles (my favorite musical genre), I find this very interesting and useful.
Thank you :)
I have already amended the lists to take account of the Bacewicz 3rd and Brian 10th and 21st.
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 05, 2009, 05:46:16 AM
Thank you :)
I have already amended the lists to take account of the Bacewicz 3rd and Brian 10th and 21st.
Pardon my oversight, Colin - Brian's
15th has been recorded in the 1990s (along with the 11th,
Doctor Merryheart and
For Valour) as part of the (incomplete) Brian cycle on Marco Polo/Naxos...
Quote from: Jezetha on January 05, 2009, 06:44:29 AM
Pardon my oversight, Colin - Brian's 15th has been recorded in the 1990s (along with the 11th, Doctor Merryheart and For Valour) as part of the (incomplete) Brian cycle on Marco Polo/Naxos...
Of course it has! I have the cd. Duly amended :)
(Deliberate mistake to determine whether you were paying attention.............NOT ;D)
Dundonnell, this may be the best thread I've ever seen on the GMG fora. Thanks so much for all the effort you put into this -- I only hope some recording company executives come across these lists while searching for ideas....
-J
--
Jim Moskowitz
The Unknown Composers Page: http://kith.org/jimmosk/TOC.html
Quote from: jimmosk on January 06, 2009, 07:11:42 AM
Dundonnell, this may be the best thread I've ever seen on the GMG fora. Thanks so much for all the effort you put into this -- I only hope some recording company executives come across these lists while searching for ideas....
-J
--
Jim Moskowitz
The Unknown Composers Page: http://kith.org/jimmosk/TOC.html
:-[ :-[
That is remarkably kind of you to say so :) I very much appreciate the compliment :) I did enjoy the research, I assure you.
No doubt those excellent people at CPO have their own lists ;D
Is it just me who is having trouble downloading the Brian Symphony?
Also - Colin are Camargo Guarnieri's symphonies good? I only know his two charming miniatures - Damsa Brasiliera and Dansa Negra.
Quote from: Guido on January 06, 2009, 03:24:38 PM
Is it just me who is having trouble downloading the Brian Symphony?
Also - Colin are Camargo Guarnieri's symphonies good? I only know his two charming miniatures - Damsa Brasiliera and Dansa Negra.
Yes, I think that the Guarnieri symphonies are most certainly good! Much better-because more tautly constructed-than the Villa-Lobos symphonies.
Villa-Lobos was an interesting composer but his genius lies in the Choros and Bachianas Brasileiras rather than the symphonies, in my judgment.
I shall start a thread about Guarnieri and write more about his music soon. (That's Guarnieri.....and Alan Bush threads to start now ;D)
Quote from: Guido on January 06, 2009, 03:24:38 PM
Is it just me who is having trouble downloading the Brian Symphony?
Hi, Guido! You should be able to download it quite easily...What goes wrong?
http://www.mediafire.com/?m2nzll2yjwi
OK I look forward to it Colin!
I get through to that webpage, but when I click the file link it simply brings aup a page which says the webpage cannot be displayed - i.e. when I try to go to this webpage:
http://download261.mediafire.com/malryuojp2zg/m2nzll2yjwi/Havergal+Brian+-+Symphony+22.mp3
Just wondering whether that was happening to any one else.
I have the download already- but when I tried to download again just now as an experiment it just cut out too.
Quote from: Guido on January 06, 2009, 03:54:17 PM
OK I look forward to it Colin!
I get through to that webpage, but when I click the file link it simply brings aup a page which says the webpage cannot be displayed - i.e. when I try to go to this webpage:
http://download261.mediafire.com/malryuojp2zg/m2nzll2yjwi/Havergal+Brian+-+Symphony+22.mp3
Just wondering whether that was happening to any one else.
That link is rather strange. Try the link in my last post, and see what happens.
No, still nothing :(
Quote from: Guido on January 07, 2009, 04:24:16 PM
No, still nothing :(
That's very strange... Here is the link to my Brian folder, see if you can download from there:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=191b3b8d4da3c14f8c9e7c56ba37815ff04eac5398a24e6c
weren't a lot of these withdrawn by the composers themselves? do they actually exist in extant copies? or were they destroyed a la sibelius no8?
Quote from: snyprrr on January 08, 2009, 04:38:27 PM
weren't a lot of these withdrawn by the composers themselves? do they actually exist in extant copies? or were they destroyed a la sibelius no8?
Eh....NO.
Where a composer withdrew a symphony I have noted that in my lists. So-the Peter Mennnin, Vincent Persichetti, Wallingford Riegger and William Schuman first and second symphonies were all withdrawn by their composers. Similarly, the Harald Saeverud and Dag Wiren first symphonies. The Villa-Lobos Symphony No.5 is apparently lost while Allan Pettersson's 1st was never completed.
This is not to say, of course, that a work withdrawn by the composer will not eventually make it to disc. This, effectively, is what happened with the Roy Harris Symphony No.2.
As far as I am aware however(and I have tried to do my research!) all of the symphonies listed are extant. The only one about whose existence I am in serious doubt is the Camargo Guarnieri No.7. Some sources say that he wrote 7 symphonies, some say 6 ;D
Completists may find good information here :
http://www.musicweb-international.com/discographies.htm
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 06, 2009, 03:40:34 PM
Yes, I think that the Guarnieri symphonies are most certainly good! Much better-because more tautly constructed-than the Villa-Lobos symphonies.
Villa-Lobos was an interesting composer but his genius lies in the Choros and Bachianas Brasileiras rather than the symphonies, in my judgment.
I shall start a thread about Guarnieri and write more about his music soon. (That's Guarnieri.....and Alan Bush threads to start now ;D)
A second on the Guarnieri Symphonies, wonderful, colorful, well written works. I started on the Villa Lobos Symphonies but lost interest, not so with Guarnieri.
I tried the Brian Download as well. I am pretty adept at downloading but this one stumped me. When I click Start download, I get a screen with a the big Q Quicktime logo and that is it. I was using FIrefox so I switched to IE, I got a Yahoo Hot Jobs page when I clicked download and then tried again and got page not available.
Mystery to me, I give up. ???
Quote from: donaldopato on January 10, 2009, 05:29:41 AM
I tried the Brian Download as well. I am pretty adept at downloading but this one stumped me. When I click Start download, I get a screen with a the big Q Quicktime logo and that is it. I was using FIrefox so I switched to IE, I got a Yahoo Hot Jobs page when I clicked download and then tried again and got page not available.
Mystery to me, I give up. ???
Strange, strange. When I click on the link I furnished here, a webpage from Mediafire appears and then the download link becomes visible. I don't understand what's going wrong. Pity, it has always worked in the past. Is Mediafire being blocked or something?!
Must be the Brian 22 file as I tried your Brian 29 file to test and it worked fine.
Quote from: donaldopato on January 10, 2009, 06:32:12 AM
Must be the Brian 22 file as I tried your Brian 29 file to test and it worked fine.
Aha! I'll see what I'll do... Thanks!
Later: I uploaded it again. If it doesn't work this time, the Universe has one more riddle...
http://www.mediafire.com/?yvy2nozmzzz
Btw - it had been downloaded 19 times already. ???
I blame the ghost of Sir William Glock ;D ;D
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 10, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
I blame the ghost of Sir William Glock ;D ;D
You may be right! ;D
It seems some files in my Brian folder are corrupt. For those interested, here is a link to Brian's Symphony No. 22, "Symphonia Brevis". This time I have avoided MediaFire:
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=481332
And No. 24 in D major. Written in 1965. Performed by the London Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Myer Fredman, on 1 April 1973:
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=481390
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 02, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
(Finding dates of composition for some of these symphonies has been incredibly difficult!)
That's to say: if you don't read Dutch 8) ;)
Great lists, Colin! Only now discovering this thread, I read them with admiration.
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 06, 2009, 03:40:34 PM
Yes, I think that the Guarnieri symphonies are most certainly good! Much better-because more tautly constructed-than the Villa-Lobos symphonies. Villa-Lobos was an interesting composer but his genius lies in the Choros and Bachianas Brasileiras rather than the symphonies, in my judgment.
I shall start a thread about Guarnieri and write more about his music soon. (That's Guarnieri.....and Alan Bush threads to start now ;D)
Ah! This time I took measures in time, and played all six (available) Guarnieri symphonies soon after BIS released them. Yes, they're the finest Latin-American symphony cycle that I know of - also served very well by the Sao Paolo SO under John Neschling - who are at the moment doing all the Chôros by Villa-Lobos.
(http://www.naxos.com/SharedFiles/Images/cds/others/BIS-CD-1290.gif)(http://www.naxos.com/SharedFiles/Images/cds/others/BIS-CD-1220.gif)(http://www.naxos.com/SharedFiles/Images/cds/others/BIS-CD-1320.gif)
Quote from: Maciek on January 04, 2009, 05:00:19 AM
I'd like to point out that the Bacewicz 3rd has been released on CD.
As it turns out: even twice (1. Cracow Philharmonic Orchestra/Roland Bader and 2. Polish Radio Symphony Orchestra/Jan Krenz).
The scores of Symphonies 1 (1945) and 2 (1951) have never been published. Though at least the pieces themselves have been performed - in 1948 and 1951, respectively - so it's still better than with her 6th Violin Concerto. Anyhow, it might be some time before someone records them. OTOH, it's not that a score
has to be published for a work to be recorded; why, Szymanowski's
Hagith has never been published and it's even available on DVD!
In 1938 she had also written
another 1st Symphony but later disowned it.
I'm sure you're all very excited to learn all this. ::)
Interested, certainly, Maciek.
This is, of course, self-nitpicking but I just realized that it is the 1945 1st Symphony that I should have called "another 1st". $:) Perhaps. $:) $:)
[Oh, and I didn't mean to imply that Symphonies 1 & 2 had only been performed once; I don't think that's the case at all]
I have the Bacewicz 3rd on order :) Expensive...but what the heck ;D
You found the Bader?? Where?!
[EDIT: never mind, the answer was quite obvious anyway - they have used copies on amazon]
Quote from: Maciek on January 15, 2009, 08:54:38 AM
The scores of Symphonies 1 (1945) and 2 (1951) have never been published.
Oops. Wrong again. Actually, it appears that no. 2
has been published, a couple of years ago. The Bacewicz catalogue I checked was simply a year or two older than that (from the late 1990s).
The thoroughness of Dundonnell's research here is astounding: many thanks!
But are these composers all unknown gems? 0:)
Or acquired tastes? 8)
Should they be recorded simply to afford them an opportunity to be rejected or accepted, or is there an elite underground who hears something of great and unique value? :o
Quote from: Cato on January 20, 2009, 09:07:57 AM
The thoroughness of Dundonnell's research here is astounding: many thanks!
But are these composers all unknown gems? 0:)
Or acquired tastes? 8)
Should they be recorded simply to afford them an opportunity to be rejected or accepted, or is there an elite underground who hears something of great and unique value? :o
Thank you :)
With regard to your pertinent question...I chose composers, at least for the most part, with whose music I am familiar to some extent. I could have included a whole raft of composers who have composed symphonies none of which I have ever heard. That is not, of course, to suggest that they are all 'unknown gems' but I do believe that they are substantial figures who composed music of value and interest.
It is unlikely that most of us will ever have the opportunity to hear many (if any) of these unrecorded pieces in the concert hall. The medium of the cd is the only way by which we will be able to judge the respective merits or otherwise of these symphonies.
I have been tempted to embark on a similar exercise for the concertos for various intruments written during the 20th century but not yet recorded for cd ;D I MAY yet do so...at least the research will keep me out of mischief for a time ;D ;D But probably not until after I have visited the Netherlands next week to meet up with some other GMG members :) :)
Quote from: Dundonnell on January 20, 2009, 11:44:42 AM
Thank you :)
With regard to your pertinent question...I chose composers, at least for the most part, with whose music I am familiar to some extent. I could have included a whole raft of composers who have composed symphonies none of which I have ever heard. That is not, of course, to suggest that they are all 'unknown gems' but I do believe that they are substantial figures who composed music of value and interest.
It is unlikely that most of us will ever have the opportunity to hear many (if any) of these unrecorded pieces in the concert hall. The medium of the cd is the only way by which we will be able to judge the respective merits or otherwise of these symphonies.
I have been tempted to embark on a similar exercise for the concertos for various intruments written during the 20th century but not yet recorded for cd ;D I MAY yet do so...at least the research will keep me out of mischief for a time ;D ;D But probably not until after I have visited the Netherlands next week to meet up with some other GMG members :) :)
Thanks again! I was wondering if you personally experienced works by these composers.
I am not sure if you included
Tibor Serly in your list: only one CD is available on Amazon right now, but it contains the incredible
Concertino 3x3 which I highly recommend. He composed at least 2 symphonies.
No, I did not include Tibor Serly. He is one of the-no doubt-countless composers of symphonies with whose work I am not familiar(except, of course, as the orchestrator of the Bartok Viola Concerto).
As an avid collector(and lover) of 20th century symphonies I do have virtually all of the recorded symphonic output of the composers I did include in my lists.
And...I know that I am wide open to the accusation that the composers in these lists are largely 'conservative' figures :) No Norgard or Tuur, for example. And...again...that's not because I think that their work is inferior in any way :) I am not personally sympathetic to their music-despite trying(probably not nearly hard enough ;D)
But, hey, it was only one person's shot at what, I thought, might be a useful exercise. If someone else wants to do more 'modern' composers then they are free to do so ;D
I'd very much like to hear more of the symphonies by (still living) French composer Aubert Lemeland, - a name I can't recall ever seen mentioned on this forum. There are at least eleven, of which only Nos. 8, 9, & 10 have been issued on CD by Skarbo (see a short review here of Nos. 8 & 9):
www.audaud.com/article_print.php?ArticleID=1204
Quote from: J on January 21, 2009, 03:32:48 PM
I'd very much like to hear more of the symphonies by (still living) French composer Aubert Lemeland, - a name I can't recall ever seen mentioned on this forum. There are at least eleven, of which only Nos. 8, 9, & 10 have been issued on CD by Skarbo (see a short review here of Nos. 8 & 9):
www.audaud.com/article_print.php?ArticleID=1204
Sounds very interesting :)
As
pjme has pointed out repeatedly, there are a large number of 20th Century French composers who remain totally unknown to most people and whose music has not travelled outside France at all. Before the Timpani record label came along even some well-known names were under-represented in the catalogues. There is a French composer called
Georges Migot(1891-1976) who, apparently, has thirteen symphonies to his name :)
Quote from: Dundonnell on December 30, 2008, 02:54:17 PM
Part 2 :) (I should stress again that I am listing symphonies which are not available on CD. The symphonies of many, many 20th Century composers are now available in complete recorded editions.)
Australia:
Malcolm Williamson: Symphonies No. 2 'Pilgrim pa havet'(1968), No.3 'The Icy Mirror' for soprano, mezzo-soprano, two
baritones, chorus and orchestra(1972), No.4 'Jubilee'(1977), No. 6(1982)
Austria:
Ernst Krenek: Symphony No.4(1947), Symphony for Winds and Percussion(1924-25), Little Symphony(1928),
Symphony 'Pallas Athene'(1954). CPO has recorded Symphony No.4 for future release.
Emil von Reznicek: Symphony No.3 'Im alten Stil'(1918). CPO is recording the complete Reznicek symphonies.
Felix von Weingartner: Symphony No.6 'Tragica'. CPO will shortly issue a recording of this work.
Czech Republic:
Josef Foerster: Symphonies No.3(1896), No.5(1929).
MDG is recording the complete Foerster symphonies; No.3 will be released in January.
Viktor Kalabis: Symphonies No.1, No.4(1972)
Vitezslav Novak: Autumn Symphony for chorus and orchestra(1934), May Symphony for soloists, chorus and orchestra(1943)
France:
Andre Jolivet: Symphonies No. 1(1954), No.2(1959)
Charles Koechlin: Symphonies No.1(1926), No.2(1943-44), Symphony in A major(1893-1900), Symphonie d' Hymnes(1936)
Paul Le Flem: Symphonies No. 2(1956), No.3(1970)
Latvia:
Janis Ivanovs: Symphonies No. 6 'Latvian'(1949), No.7(1953), No.9(1960), No.11(1965), No.13 'Symphonia Humana'(1969),
No.15 'Sinfonia Ipsa'(1972), No.16(1974), No.17(1976), No.18(1977), No.19(1979), No.21(1983)
Russia:
Gavril Popov: Symphonies No.3 'The Spanish'(1946) for strings, No.4'Honour to the Motherland' for soloists, chorus and
orchestra(1949)
Maximilian Steinberg: Symphonies No.3(1928), No.4 'Turksib'(1933), No.5 'Symphonic Rhapsody on Uzbek Themes"(1942)
Boris Tishchenko: Symphonies No.2 'Marina' for chrus and orchestra(1964), No.4 for orchestra with narrator(1974)
Moisei Weinberg: Symphonies No.1(1942), No.3(1949), No.8 'Flowers of Poland' for tenor, chorus and orchestra(1964), No.9
'Everlasting Times' for narrator, chorus and orchestra(1940-67), No.11 'Festive Symphony' for chorus and
orchestra(1969), No.13(1976), No.15 'I Believe in This Earth' for soprano, baritone, women's chorus and
orchestra, Symphony 'Kaddish'(1992).
Chandos MAY be planning to record these but that must be regarded as doubtful.
Ukraine:
Valentin Silvestrov: Symphonies No. 1(1963), No.3 'Eschatophony'(1966), No.7(2002-03).
BIS is planning a Silvestrov series.
I believe you mentioned Novak's Autumn Symphony? That one I don't know. I'd love to hear it if and when it were recorded. I also would be quite happy if Alexander Krein's 2nd. Symphony were available on CD. He's a sparing composer who did quite a few vocal works. His 1st Symphony, his Sonata, plus a few individual piano works are available. The few works with which I am familiar are admirable, and I fully appreciate his musical language. His use of lush harmonies and color are well conceived and unique. I wish there were more orchestral works by him.
Musicweb has published another in the incredibly useful series of discographies compiled by Michael Herman-
http://www.musicweb-international.com/BeneluxSwiss_Symphonies/index.htm
Thanks to this I have updated my list of Dutch composers to take account of the fact that Cornelis Dopper's Symphony No.7 "Zuidezee" and Henk Badings' Symphonies Nos. 5 and 9 are available on CD.
Alan Hovhaness's Symphony No.10 "Vahaken" has been issued on a Centaur CD(CRC2954) played by the Frost Symphony Orchestra conducted by Chung Park. It is reviewed in the April issue of 'The Gramophone' magazine.
Aho's Symphony No.14 is scheduled for release this month.
http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/BIS/BISCD1686
I just realized that not a single of Koffler's symphonies has ever been released on CD (or any other medium for that matter).
IMHO regarding Portugal Ivo Cruz senior and Ruy Coelho
I'm glad to see this thread revived because it is a fascinating one and full of amazing research. It would be interesting if somebody had the time to go through and check on recording status of all the works that Colin listed, now that 15 years have passed.
Here you have:
Missing symphonies
Brazil
Camargo Guarnieri: Symphony No.7
Heitor Villa-Lobos: Symphony No.5 (lost)
Norway
Klaus Egge: Symphony No.5 'Sinfonia dolce'
Ragnar Soderlind: Symphonies No. 1, No.6 'Todesahnung', No.7 'La Campane dell'Atlantico' for voice, chorus and orchestra, No.8 'Jean Sibelius in memoriam'*
Poland
Alexander Tansman: Symphony No.1
Sweden
Hilding Rosenberg: Symphonies No. 1*, No.7*
USA
George Antheil: Symphony in F, Symphony No.2, Tragic Symphony
Paul Creston: Symphony No.6 for organ and orchestra*
David Diamond: No. 7, No. 9, No.10*, No.11
Morton Gould: Symphony No.1*
Roy Harris: Symphonies No. 10 'Abraham Lincoln' for speaker, chorus, brass, 2 pianos and percussion, No.12 'Pere Marquette' for tenor, speaker and orchestra, No.13 'Bicentennial Symphony' for chorus and orchestra, solo voices and speakers
Alan Hovhaness: Symphonies Nos. 5, No.12 (the only recording is incomplete), No.13 'Ardent Song', No.16 'Kayagum', No.17 'Symphony for Metal Orchestra'*, No.18 'Circe', No.26, No.27, No.28, No.29*, No.30, No.32 'The Broken Wings', No.33, No.34*, No.35, No.36*, No.37, No.38, No.40, No.41, No.42, No.43, No.44, No.45, No.51, No.52 'Journey to Vega', No.54, No.55, No.56, No.57 'Cold Mountain', No.58 'Symphonia Sacra', No.59, No.61, No.62 'Oh Let Man Not Forget These Words Divine', No.64 'Agiochook', No.65 'Artstakh', No.67 'Hymn to the Mountains'
George Rochberg: Symphonies No. 3 for double chorus, chamber chorus and orchestra*, No.4*, No.6*
Withdrawn:
Benjamin Lees: Symphony No.1
Peter Mennin: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2*
Vincent Persichetti: Symphonies Nos. 1* and 2
Wallingford Riegger: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
William Schuman: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2*
Australia
Malcolm Williamson: Symphonies No. 2 'Pilgrim pa havet', No.3 'The Icy Mirror' for soprano, mezzo-soprano, two baritones, chorus and orchestra, No.4 'Jubilee', No. 6*
Austria
Ernst Krenek: Symphony for Winds and Percussion*, Little Symphony
Czech Republic
Viktor Kalabis: Symphony No.1*
Vitezslav Novak: May Symphony for soloists, chorus and orchestra*
France
Charles Koechlin: Symphony No.2*, Symphony in A major, Symphonie d'Hymnes
Paul Le Flem: Symphonies No. 2*, No.3*
Latvia
Janis Ivanovs: Symphonies No. 6 'Latvian'*, No.7*, No.9*, No.11, No.13 'Symphonia Humana'*, No.21*
Russia
Maximilian Steinberg: Symphony No.5 'Symphonic Rhapsody on Uzbek Themes'
Moisei Weinberg: Symphony No.9 'Everlasting Times' for narrator, chorus and orchestra, No.11 'Festive Symphony' for chorus and orchestra, No.15 'I Believe in This Earth' for soprano, baritone, women's chorus and orchestra
Ukraine
Valentin Silvestrov: Symphonies No. 1*, No.3 'Eschatophony'*
Denmark
Niels Viggo Bentzon: Symphonies No.1, No.2*, No.6, No.9, No.10*, No.11, No.12*, No.13, No.14, No.15, No.16, No.17, No.18, No.19, No.20, No.21, No.22, No.23, No.24
Paul von Klenau: Symphonies No.2, No.3 for solo, choir and orchestra, No.4 'Dante Symphony', No.6 'Nordische Symphonie'
Finland
Kalevi Aho: Symphonies No. 6* and 16
Ernest Pingoud: Symphonies No.1*, No.2*, No.3
Netherlands
Henk Badings: Symphonies No. 1, No.6 'Psalmensymphonie' for choir and orchestra, No.8*, No.11 'Sinfonia giocosa', No.13 for wind instruments*
Cornelis Dopper: Symphonies No.1 'Diana'*, No.4 'Sinfonietta', No.5 'Symphonia epica'
Leon Orthel: Symphonies No.1, No.5 'Musica iniziale', No.6*
United Kingdom
Edgar Bainton: Symphony No.1 'Before Sunrise' for contralto, chorus and orchestra
York Bowen: Symphony No.3*
Alan Bush: Symphonies No.3 'Byron' for baritone, chorus and orchestra*
Arthur Butterworth: Symphony No.3 'Sinfonia Borealis'*, No.6*, No.7*, 'A Moorland Symphony' for bass, chorus and orchestra
Arnold Cooke: Symphonies No.2, No.6
Iain Hamilton: Symphonies No.1*, No.2*, No.3 'Spring'*, No.4*
Alun Hoddinott: Symphonies No.1, No.4*, No.7 for organ and orchestra*, No.8 for brass and percussion*, No. 9 'A Vision of Eternity' for brass and orchestra*, No.10*
Joseph Holbrooke: Symphonies No.1 'Homage to Edgar Allan Poe" for chorus and orchestra, No.2 'Apollo and the Seaman' for chorus and orchestra, No.5 'Wild Wales' for brass band, No.6 'Old England' for military band, No.7 for strings, No.8 'Dance Symphony' for piano and orchestra
Sir Peter Maxwell Davies: Symphonies No.7*, No.8 'Antarctic'*
John McCabe: Symphony No.3 'Hommages'*, Symphony No.5 'Edward II'*
Anthony Milner: Symphonies No.2 for soloists, chorus and orchestra*, No.3
Robin Orr: Symphonies No.2, No.3
Robert Still: Symphonies No.1, No.2
William Wordsworth: Symphony No.6 'Elegiaca' for soloists, chorus and orchestra
* only available via a YouTube recording AFAIK
If others have additional info or corrections, don't doubt to add them.
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on May 26, 2025, 11:22:53 AMHere you have:
Missing symphonies
Brazil
Camargo Guarnieri: Symphony No.7
Heitor Villa-Lobos: Symphony No.5 (lost)
Norway
Klaus Egge: Symphony No.5 'Sinfonia dolce'
Ragnar Soderlind: Symphonies No. 1, No.6 'Todesahnung', No.7 'La Campane dell'Atlantico' for voice, chorus and orchestra, No.8 'Jean Sibelius in memoriam'*
Poland
Alexander Tansman: Symphony No.1
Sweden
Hilding Rosenberg: Symphonies No. 1*, No.7*
USA
George Antheil: Symphony in F, Symphony No.2, Tragic Symphony
Paul Creston: Symphony No.6 for organ and orchestra*
David Diamond: No. 7, No. 9, No.10*, No.11
Morton Gould: Symphony No.1*
Roy Harris: Symphonies No. 10 'Abraham Lincoln' for speaker, chorus, brass, 2 pianos and percussion, No.12 'Pere Marquette' for tenor, speaker and orchestra, No.13 'Bicentennial Symphony' for chorus and orchestra, solo voices and speakers
Alan Hovhaness: Symphonies Nos. 5, No.12 (the only recording is incomplete), No.13 'Ardent Song', No.16 'Kayagum', No.17 'Symphony for Metal Orchestra'*, No.18 'Circe', No.26, No.27, No.28, No.29*, No.30, No.32 'The Broken Wings', No.33, No.34*, No.35, No.36*, No.37, No.38, No.40, No.41, No.42, No.43, No.44, No.45, No.51, No.52 'Journey to Vega', No.54, No.55, No.56, No.57 'Cold Mountain', No.58 'Symphonia Sacra', No.59, No.61, No.62 'Oh Let Man Not Forget These Words Divine', No.64 'Agiochook', No.65 'Artstakh', No.67 'Hymn to the Mountains'
George Rochberg: Symphonies No. 3 for double chorus, chamber chorus and orchestra*, No.4*, No.6*
Withdrawn:
Benjamin Lees: Symphony No.1
Peter Mennin: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2*
Vincent Persichetti: Symphonies Nos. 1* and 2
Wallingford Riegger: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2
William Schuman: Symphonies Nos. 1 and 2*
Australia
Malcolm Williamson: Symphonies No. 2 'Pilgrim pa havet', No.3 'The Icy Mirror' for soprano, mezzo-soprano, two baritones, chorus and orchestra, No.4 'Jubilee', No. 6*
Austria
Ernst Krenek: Symphony for Winds and Percussion*, Little Symphony
Czech Republic
Viktor Kalabis: Symphony No.1*
Vitezslav Novak: May Symphony for soloists, chorus and orchestra*
France
Charles Koechlin: Symphony No.2*, Symphony in A major, Symphonie d'Hymnes
Paul Le Flem: Symphonies No. 2*, No.3*
Latvia
Janis Ivanovs: Symphonies No. 6 'Latvian'*, No.7*, No.9*, No.11, No.13 'Symphonia Humana'*, No.21*
Russia
Maximilian Steinberg: Symphony No.5 'Symphonic Rhapsody on Uzbek Themes'
Moisei Weinberg: Symphony No.9 'Everlasting Times' for narrator, chorus and orchestra, No.11 'Festive Symphony' for chorus and orchestra, No.15 'I Believe in This Earth' for soprano, baritone, women's chorus and orchestra
Ukraine
Valentin Silvestrov: Symphonies No. 1*, No.3 'Eschatophony'*
Denmark
Niels Viggo Bentzon: Symphonies No.1, No.2*, No.6, No.9, No.10*, No.11, No.12*, No.13, No.14, No.15, No.16, No.17, No.18, No.19, No.20, No.21, No.22, No.23, No.24
Paul von Klenau: Symphonies No.2, No.3 for solo, choir and orchestra, No.4 'Dante Symphony', No.6 'Nordische Symphonie'
Finland
Kalevi Aho: Symphonies No. 6* and 16
Ernest Pingoud: Symphonies No.1*, No.2*, No.3
Netherlands
Henk Badings: Symphonies No. 1, No.6 'Psalmensymphonie' for choir and orchestra, No.8*, No.11 'Sinfonia giocosa', No.13 for wind instruments*
Cornelis Dopper: Symphonies No.1 'Diana'*, No.4 'Sinfonietta', No.5 'Symphonia epica'
Leon Orthel: Symphonies No.1, No.5 'Musica iniziale', No.6*
United Kingdom
Edgar Bainton: Symphony No.1 'Before Sunrise' for contralto, chorus and orchestra
York Bowen: Symphony No.3*
Alan Bush: Symphonies No.3 'Byron' for baritone, chorus and orchestra*
Arthur Butterworth: Symphony No.3 'Sinfonia Borealis'*, No.6*, No.7*, 'A Moorland Symphony' for bass, chorus and orchestra
Arnold Cooke: Symphonies No.2, No.6
Iain Hamilton: Symphonies No.1*, No.2*, No.3 'Spring'*, No.4*
Alun Hoddinott: Symphonies No.1, No.4*, No.7 for organ and orchestra*, No.8 for brass and percussion*, No. 9 'A Vision of Eternity' for brass and orchestra*, No.10*
Joseph Holbrooke: Symphonies No.1 'Homage to Edgar Allan Poe" for chorus and orchestra, No.2 'Apollo and the Seaman' for chorus and orchestra, No.5 'Wild Wales' for brass band, No.6 'Old England' for military band, No.7 for strings, No.8 'Dance Symphony' for piano and orchestra
Sir Peter Maxwell Davies: Symphonies No.7*, No.8 'Antarctic'*
John McCabe: Symphony No.3 'Hommages'*, Symphony No.5 'Edward II'*
Anthony Milner: Symphonies No.2 for soloists, chorus and orchestra*, No.3
Robin Orr: Symphonies No.2, No.3
Robert Still: Symphonies No.1, No.2
William Wordsworth: Symphony No.6 'Elegiaca' for soloists, chorus and orchestra
* only available via a YouTube recording AFAIK
If others have additional info or corrections, don't doubt to add them.
Totally Agree
I will add Tukkanen,Bozza and Golubev symphonies
Quote from: Roy Bland on May 26, 2025, 06:21:15 PMTotally Agree
I will add Tukkanen,Bozza and Golubev symphonies
Yes, there are many other composers that deserve to be included. Probably I'll do something in that regard on the next days.
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on May 26, 2025, 11:22:53 AMHere you have:
Missing symphonies
Brazil
Camargo Guarnieri: Symphony No.7
I wasn't aware that Guarnieri wrote a seventh symphony. I can't find any information about it. Do you have a link to the source where you found this out?
Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on May 27, 2025, 08:21:20 AMI wasn't aware that Guarnieri wrote a seventh symphony. I can't find any information about it. Do you have a link to the source where you found this out?
Here's one, in Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart_Camargo_Guarnieri
Quote from: Christo on May 27, 2025, 08:34:36 AMHere's one, in Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart_Camargo_Guarnieri
So this symphony was lost? There isn't a year mentioned in the listing of his oeuvre.
Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on May 27, 2025, 08:21:20 AMI wasn't aware that Guarnieri wrote a seventh symphony. I can't find any information about it. Do you have a link to the source where you found this out?
Our source for that is twofold, the BIS booklet notes and our own Dundonnell. Previous discussion here:
https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17595.msg1477931.html#msg1477931
Quote from: Brian on May 27, 2025, 06:50:18 PMOur source for that is twofold, the BIS booklet notes and our own Dundonnell. Previous discussion here:
https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17595.msg1477931.html#msg1477931
Thanks, Brian. So is the 7th lost, then?
I'm not aware of any evidence for or against that idea. Just suppositions: why didn't BIS record it, but also, why didn't the booklet writer mention its lost status if it was? 1985 is a very late date to lose something!
Edit: the Naxos Brazil series is about 60% complete and focusing on first international recordings, including of works from manuscript, so I really hope they do Guarnieri 7 and his violin concertos, provided they exist.
Quote from: Brian on May 27, 2025, 07:39:37 PMI'm not aware of any evidence for or against that idea. Just suppositions: why didn't BIS record it, but also, why didn't the booklet writer mention its lost status if it was? 1985 is a very late date to lose something!
Edit: the Naxos Brazil series is about 60% complete and focusing on first international recordings, including of works from manuscript, so I really hope they do Guarnieri 7 and his violin concertos, provided they exist.
Thanks, Brian. This is all quite strange. Hopefully, as you wrote, Naxos will record this symphony and we'll get to hear it finally.
Quote from: Der lächelnde Schatten on May 27, 2025, 07:47:14 PMThanks, Brian. This is all quite strange. Hopefully, as you wrote, Naxos will record this symphony and we'll get to hear it finally.
Agreed. I would love to hear that also.
i add Peiko and Revol Bunin for Russia ,Robert Blum for Switzerland, Migot for France,Rieti,Mannino and Zafred for Italy,for Roumania Cuclin,Andricu and Dumitrescu
Netherlands
Leon Orthel and Koetsier ,Meulemans and August Baeyens